Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/05/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:04 AM Presentation: Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 5, 2025                                                                                            
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:01:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Jeremy   Woodrow,   Executive   Director,   Alaska   Seafood                                                                    
Marketing  Institute;  Ted Helvoight,  President,  Evergreen                                                                    
Economics; Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA SEAFOOD MARKETING INSTITUTE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH;  FY 25    FY45 MEDICAID                                                                    
ENROLLMENT AND SPENDING IN ALASKA REPORT (MESA)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: ALASKA SEAFOOD MARKETING INSTITUTE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:02:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY   WOODROW,   EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,   ALASKA   SEAFOOD                                                                    
MARKETING  INSTITUTE,  (ASMI)  discussed  the  presentation,                                                                    
 Alaska  Seafood Marketing  Institute"  (copy  on file).  He                                                                    
highlighted slide 3, "Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     As Alaska's official seafood marketing arm, ASMI is                                                                        
     established under AS 16.51 to maximize the economic                                                                        
     value of the Alaska seafood resource by:                                                                                   
    ? Building and protecting the Alaska Seafood brand                                                                        
     ? Developing and creating markets for Alaska seafood                                                                     
     products                                                                                                                   
     ? Working directly with the seafood industry to                                                                          
     maximize efforts                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ASMI is directed by a Governor-appointed Board of                                                                          
     Directors: Five Processors, Two Commercial Harvesters;                                                                     
     and  Nine   board-appointed  Species   and  Operational                                                                    
     Advisory Committees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow addressed slide 4, "ASMI Programs":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     International Marketing                                                                                                    
     Domestic Marketing                                                                                                         
     Seafood Technical                                                                                                          
     Communications                                                                                                             
     Global Food Aid                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow discussed slide 5, "ASMI Budget":                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Budget*                                                                                                           
     • Seafood Marketing Assessment                                                                                           
     •$16,386.1 (0.5 percent of ex-vessel value)                                                                                
     • Federal Funds                                                                                                          
     •$13,036.4                                                                                                                 
     •Market Access Program (MAP)                                                                                               
     •Regional Agricultural Promotion Program (RAPP)                                                                            
     •Saltonstall-Kennedy Grant (SK)                                                                                            
     •Cochran Fellowship                                                                                                        
     •Emerging Markets Program (EMP)                                                                                            
     •Quality Samples Program (QSP)                                                                                             
     • $0.0 UGF                                                                                                               
     Total FY2025: $29,422.5                                                                                                  
     FY2025 Spend Plan: $23,352.5                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FY2026 Budget Request*                                                                                                   
     • Seafood Marketing Assessment                                                                                           
     • $13,533.0 (0.5 percent of ex-vessel value)                                                                               
     • Federal Funds                                                                                                          
     • $13,023.5                                                                                                                
     • Market Access Program (MAP)                                                                                              
     • Regional Agricultural Promotion Program (RAPP)                                                                           
     • Saltonstall-Kennedy Grant (SK)                                                                                           
     • Cochran Fellowship                                                                                                       
     • Emerging Markets Program (EMP)                                                                                           
     • Quality Samples Program (QSP)                                                                                            
     • $10,000.0 UGF (supplemental, FY2025-FY2027)                                                                            
     FY2026 spend plan set by ASMI Board in May                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow pointed  to slide  6, "ASMI  Budget Breakdown                                                                      
The slide offered a bar graph  of the ASMI FY2025 Spend Plan                                                                    
broken down  into state and  federal funds in  the following                                                                    
categories:  Food Aid,  Technical, Executive/Prof  Services,                                                                    
Communications  and  PR,  Domestic, International  SDPR  and                                                                    
Fed. Numbers are in thousands.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:07:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow  addressed  slide   7,  "ASMI  Spend  Plan  and                                                                    
Revenue   He stated that FY25-FY30  were projected funds and                                                                    
that  the $10  million  request would  be  spent over  FY25,                                                                    
FY26, and  FY27. He said that  there was a dramatic  drop in                                                                    
statutory  designated program  receipts in  FY24, FY25,  and                                                                    
FY26, due to a drop in  exvessel prices. He relayed that the                                                                    
requested $10 million  would allow for ASMI  to continue its                                                                    
aggressive marketing program. He  noted the teal line, which                                                                    
reflected and  increase in spending  in response  to various                                                                    
marketplace variables.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow  displayed slide 8,  "ASMI Revenue  History   He                                                                    
noted that in  2011 through 2016, ASMI had  received a large                                                                    
amount of UGF,  which was reduced in 2017  and eliminated in                                                                    
2019.  He  said that  funding  had  become volatile,  and  a                                                                    
consistent  marketing plan  had been  maintained to  address                                                                    
the different marketing concerns.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow discussed  slide  9,  "Alaska Seafood  Industry                                                                    
Situational Overview":                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Excess Inventories of key species harvested in                                                                           
     Alaska and other countries in 2022 and 2023                                                                                
     • Decreasing Consumer Demand: inflation spending                                                                           
     • Russian War in Ukraine: historic low prices                                                                              
     • Unfair Trade Policies: both export/import                                                                                
     • Increased Costs:                                                                                                         
     • Capital  cost to carry inventory                                                                                         
     • Labor  inflation - operational costs                                                                                     
     • Global Shipping  International and Lower-48                                                                              
     • Sustainability, social responsibility, environmental                                                                     
     compliance, insurance, and storage                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  cost to  execute Alaska's  fisheries is  not price                                                                    
     competitive with global competition.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow addressed slide 10, "FREEDOM FISH":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • Federal  Executive Order 14068: Bans  Russian Seafood                                                                    
     from U.S.                                                                                                                  
     •  In  2022,  70,000  metric tons  of  Russian  seafood                                                                    
     valued at $452 million entered U.S. market                                                                                 
     • Opportunity for all Alaska seafood species                                                                               
     •  Near-term focus:  Pink and  Chum Salmon,  Sablefish,                                                                    
     Pollock/Surimi, Flatfish                                                                                                   
     •  Norway, Chile,  Iceland, and  farmed whitefish  also                                                                    
     taking advantage of ban                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow looked  at slide 11, "Budget  Request and Three-                                                                    
Year Goals                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Capitalize on the Russian import  ban and increase U.S.                                                                    
     domestic market share of Alaska seafood                                                                                    
     Gain  more than  50 percent  of the  sales left  behind                                                                    
     from the Russia seafood ban.                                                                                               
     Increase  Alaska  Seafood   brand  recognition  of  key                                                                    
     species by 10 percent                                                                                                      
     Promote wild Alaska seafood with  an emphasis on Alaska                                                                    
     sockeye, pink,  and keta salmon, as  well as sablefish,                                                                    
     pollock, and surimi.                                                                                                       
     Differentiate  Alaska Responsible  Fisheries Management                                                                    
     (RFM)  in the  U.S.  domestic market  as the  preferred                                                                    
     origin-based certification program                                                                                         
     Counter  the MSC  ecolabel  that  continues to  certify                                                                    
     Russian seafood in the global marketplace.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow pointed to slide  12, "FY 2025 Supplemental: $10                                                                    
Million                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:15:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman recalled  that during  the budget  cycle a                                                                    
year ago there had been  an opportunity to spend $10 million                                                                    
to  market aggressively  to  supplant  Russian product  with                                                                    
Alaskan  product. It  was vetoed  by the  administration. He                                                                    
spoke  to the  current  $10 million  request  over the  next                                                                    
three years.  He stressed  that by the  time the  budget was                                                                    
signed  FY25 would  be  halfway over.  He  wondered why  the                                                                    
funding had not been set to begin in FY26.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:16:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow replied with details  from slide 7. He said that                                                                    
if the  budget passed soon  and quickly, ASMI could  use the                                                                    
funds as early as June.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:18:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  thought   that  a   supplemental  budget                                                                    
increase  for  FY25 was  unlikely.  He  hoped the  Operating                                                                    
Budget would  be signed quickly  and funding for  FY26 would                                                                    
be  available  to  ASMI  in   time  to  save  marketing  the                                                                    
industry.  He  thought  that the  timeframes  in  the  slide                                                                    
should  be adjusted  to FY26  and FY  27, which  he believed                                                                    
would  benefit the  industry and  protect against  financial                                                                    
insolvency.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  remarked that relationship with  Russia was                                                                    
changing  rapidly.  He  wondered  about  marketing   Freedom                                                                    
Fish and whether that tact was wise in a changing world.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:21:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow addressed slide 13:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "Pricing is the highest motivating factor in                                                                               
     purchasing Frozen Fish, with 'Wild Caught' and                                                                             
     'Freshness' on-pack also being important."                                                                                 
     -Circana                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow  looked  at  slide 14,  "The  Power  of  Alaska                                                                    
Seafood."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow  discussed  slide  15,  "Public  Relations  and                                                                    
Earned Media                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow pointed to slide 16, "Omnichannel Promotions                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow addressed slide 17, "US Retail Return on                                                                            
Investment":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   •Over 13,500,000 impressions with over 24,000 clicks                                                                         
     •The  click-through-rate (CTR)  was 0.18  percent (with                                                                    
     an average CTR of 0.14 percent)                                                                                            
     •83.21 percent OSB rate (Orders Sent to Basket)                                                                            
     •Publix alone  saw a 7.2 percent  sales lift throughout                                                                    
     the campaign                                                                                                               
     Chicory  digital campaign  to  drive  sales for  Alaska                                                                    
     sockeye at Kroger, Sam's Club, and Publix:                                                                                 
     $2.4 million in total sales                                                                                                
     •18 million impressions                                                                                                    
     •23.6   percent  redemption   rate    8x  higher   than                                                                    
     benchmark                                                                                                                  
     •50 percent follow-on purchaser                                                                                            
     •26  percent  follow-on  of  new  purchasers  and  2.65                                                                    
     average follow-on units purchased  per trip  the number                                                                    
     of average units purchased per  shopping trip after the                                                                    
     campaign ended                                                                                                             
     Ibotta U.S.  digital coupon offering  $1 off  any brand                                                                    
     of frozen or canned Alaska seafood:                                                                                        
     9,000 units daily!                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:27:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow looked at slide 18, "Sushi at Retail":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Alaska Cruise Giveaway with FujiSan Sushi                                                                                
       Over 60,000 entries in only 30 days!                                                                                     
       Amplifies Alaska Seafood's reach into sushi                                                                              
        Available  at  500  Sam's  Club  locations;  FujiSan                                                                    
     partnered  with  independent  Sam's  Club  influencers,                                                                    
     collectively reaching over 100,000 viewers                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow looked at slide 19, "Building Lasting                                                                               
Promotions                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow discussed slide 20, "U.S. Foodservice Return on                                                                     
Investment":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •Window clings, drive-thru  signage, POS screens, radio                                                                    
    and a silent video loop running constantly in-store                                                                         
     •Website and Taco John's app deployments                                                                                   
     •1.5 million reach from media coverage                                                                                     
     •ASMI investment: $15,000                                                                                                  
     Taco John's Partnership                                                                                                    
     50,000 lbs Lent 2024                                                                                                       
       or  every   $1  ASMI   invests  in   promotions,  the                                                                    
     distributer sells over $616 of Alaska Seafood                                                                              
     •ASMI FY2024 distributor promos  sold over 11.7 million                                                                    
     pounds totaling $120,159,000 in sales                                                                                      
     Distributor Promotions Deliver Significant ROI                                                                             
     $120M in FY2024!                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:31:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman queried  any marketing  opportunities with                                                                    
the cruise  industry. He wondered why  people onboard cruise                                                                    
ships were eating farmed fish.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:31:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow  replied that it  came down to price  point. The                                                                    
cruise  industry wanted  to buy  fish at  prices lower  than                                                                    
businesses were  willing to entertain.  He said  some cruise                                                                    
ships had higher end restaurants  onboard that served Alaska                                                                    
seafood.  He added  that  representatives  from the  seafood                                                                    
industry would employee Cruise  Ship Ambassadors who offered                                                                    
presentations  on the  ships and  directed  people to  where                                                                    
they can purchase Alaska Seafood.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Woodrow looked  at slide  21, "International  Marketing                                                                    
Program                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ASMI   collaborates  with   the  seafood   industry  to                                                                    
     establish  new markets  and  enhance opportunities  for                                                                    
     Alaska's   diverse   seafood    portfolio   across   53                                                                    
     countries.                                                                                                                 
     About  65-70   percent  by  value  of   Alaska  seafood                                                                    
     production exported annually to 100 countries.                                                                             
     China/South  Korea largest  trading partners  primarily                                                                    
     for transshipping and reprocessing.                                                                                        
     Japan/Europe largest direct foreign markets.                                                                               
     75  percent  of  pollock,  keta  salmon,  and  flatfish                                                                    
     species exported.                                                                                                          
     U.S.  has  largest  market  share  with  more  than  30                                                                    
     percent by value.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow pointed to slide 22, "Alaska Seafood Export                                                                         
Value by Region                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:36:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked where the fish were ultimately                                                                              
consumed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow replied that Alaskas largest consumer markets                                                                       
were Europe and Japan, with growing markets in Southeast                                                                        
Asia and South America.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:37:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow discussed slide 23, "Southeast Asia Market                                                                          
Development":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        ASMI SE  Asia  program started  May 2019  (Thailand,                                                                    
     Vietnam,  Indonesia,   Singapore,  Malaysia,   and  the                                                                    
     Philippines)                                                                                                               
        Trade shows,  trade  missions, chef  collaborations,                                                                    
     retail partnerships, influencers, etc.                                                                                     
       Alaska seafood exports in 2018: $97.3 million                                                                            
       Alaska seafood exports in 2022: $139.6 million                                                                           
       Program expenses: $1.5 million                                                                                           
       Growth  of flatfish  exports: $0.5 million  (2018) to                                                                    
     $11 million (2022)                                                                                                         
     Consistent growth in premium species like sockeye                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:39:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow looked at slide 24, "International Trade and                                                                        
Tariffs":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska   Seafood   products  compete   with   countless                                                                    
     products  and   numerous  countries  in   every  single                                                                    
     market.                                                                                                                    
     U.S.  seafood  products  generally face  higher  tariff                                                                    
     rates  than seafood  from  competing seafood  producing                                                                    
     countries.                                                                                                                 
     Alaska  Seafood is  often  collateral  damage in  trade                                                                    
     negotiations.                                                                                                              
     While Russian  seafood is banned  from the U.S.,  it is                                                                    
     not restricted elsewhere.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:42:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow discussed slide 25:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Capitalize on the Russian import ban and grow U.S.                                                                         
    domestic sales of Alaska seafood by over 50 percent                                                                         
     Increase Alaska Seafood brand recognition of key                                                                           
     species by 10 percent                                                                                                      
     Differentiate Alaska Responsible Fisheries Management                                                                      
     (RFM) in the U.S. domestic market                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:42:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked how Alaska  compared to the  rest of                                                                    
the work on marketing spending.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow shared that Alaskas   biggest competitor was the                                                                    
Norwegian   Seafood  Council,   which   had   a  budget   of                                                                    
approximately  $55  million,  spending  $5  million  in  The                                                                    
United States.  He added that  Canada had a budget  equal or                                                                    
larger than Alaskas.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:44:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cronk  doubted that  he  had  one constituent  that                                                                    
would want  a single  dollar used  to advertise  pollock. He                                                                    
thought that the  Trawling Industry could pay  for their own                                                                    
marketing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:44:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Woodrow thanked the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH; FY 25    FY45 MEDICAID                                                                  
ENROLLMENT AND SPENDING IN ALASKA REPORT (MESA)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:45:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED  HELVOIGHT,  PRESIDENT, EVERGREEN  ECONOMICS,  discussed                                                                    
the presentation, "MESA FY2025    FY2045, Long-Term Forecast                                                                    
of  Medicaid Enrollment  and Spending  in  Alaska" (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:46:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Helvoight  looked  at   slide  2,  "Long-Term  Medicaid                                                                    
Forecast ('MESA'):                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Requested by the Alaska Legislature in 2005                                                                              
     • First forecast completed in 2006                                                                                         
     • 20-year projection updated annually                                                                                      
     • Assumes current Medicaid structure remains in place                                                                      
     •  Provides   a  baseline  for  analysis   of  proposed                                                                    
     initiatives                                                                                                                
     •  Provides  insights  into trends  in  AK  population,                                                                    
     Medicaid enrollment,  utilization, reimbursement rates,                                                                    
     and spending                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:47:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight discussed slide 3, "Medicaid Enrollment and                                                                       
Spending in Alaska                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Bending the Medicaid cost curve                                                                                          
     ? Recent trends and events                                                                                                 
     ? FY2025-FY2045 projection                                                                                                 
     ? Chronic conditions and Medicaid                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight pointed to slide 4, "Bending the Medicaid                                                                         
Cost Curve                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Cost containment efforts have worked.                                                                                    
     • Spending  has been much  lower than was  projected in                                                                    
     2006.                                                                                                                      
     • However,  growth in spending  has ticked up  over the                                                                    
     past few years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight displayed slide 5, "Many More Alaskans                                                                            
Receiving Medicaid                                                                                                              
Services":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Recipient counts closely  tracked the 2006 projection                                                                    
     until Medicaid expansion in FY2016.                                                                                        
     • After rising sharply  in FY2021 and FY2022, recipient                                                                    
     counts were flat in FY2023 and dropped in FY2024.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:49:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight looked at slide 6, "Spending Per Recipient Is                                                                     
No Longer Growing Slowly":                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • For nearly 20  years, cost containment initiatives by                                                                    
     DOH succeeded in suppressing growth in spending.                                                                           
     • However, inflationary pressures  on providers has led                                                                    
     to  relatively substantial  increases in  reimbursement                                                                    
     rates since FY2022.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:51:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight addressed slide 8, "Medicaid Enrollment and                                                                       
Recipients Before and After COVID":                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •  Enrollment grew  rapidly  during COVID-19  pandemic,                                                                    
     increasing by                                                                                                              
     40,000 between March 2020 and April 2023.                                                                                  
     • Enrollment declined by 18,000  between April 2023 and                                                                    
     December 2024.                                                                                                             
     •  Recipient  counts vary  considerably  month-to-month                                                                    
     but  have averaged  about 120,000  per month  over past                                                                    
     three years.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:53:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight pointed to slide 9, "Medicaid Spending Has                                                                        
Not Dropped":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Total  spending  on  Medicaid claims  varies  month-to-                                                                    
     month but continues to grow.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight looked at slide 10, "GF Spending Has Also                                                                         
Continued to Grow":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     General Fund spending on  Medicaid claims varies month-                                                                    
     to-month but continues to grow.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight displayed slide 11, "Recipients Per Month                                                                         
Remains Flat":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid  unwinding  has  not impacted  the  number  of                                                                    
     recipients with paid claims each month.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:55:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight highlighted slide 12, "Spending Per Recipient                                                                     
Has Grown Rapidly":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Between  December  2022   and  December  2024,  average                                                                    
     spending per  recipient increased by 18  percent, which                                                                    
     equates to 8.7 percent per year.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:56:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Helvoight  pointed  to slide  13,  "Medicaid  Spending,                                                                    
Enrollment, and Recipients":                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Enrollment growth primarily due to expansion and                                                                         
     continuous enrollment.                                                                                                     
     • Enrollment and recipient counts have diverged.                                                                           
     • FFP has covered most of the increased spending                                                                           
     through FY2024.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight shared that in  FY2012 the number of enrollees                                                                    
and the number  of recipients in the program  were lower and                                                                    
closer together.  He said  that as  time had  progressed the                                                                    
separation  between  those   utilizing  services  and  those                                                                    
enrolled only had increased. He  shared that in FY2024, less                                                                    
than  7  out of  10  Medicaid  enrollees used  services.  He                                                                    
speculated  that  during  the continuous  enrollment  period                                                                    
there  were  many people  who  did  not  know they  were  on                                                                    
Medicaid.  He  stressed  that  there  were  many  people  on                                                                    
Medicaid who  were not  using the  services. He  stated that                                                                    
the  blue   bars  represented   state  spending,   the  grey                                                                    
represented    federal    spending.     He    noted    that,                                                                    
proportionately, the federal government  had spent much more                                                                    
on the  program than  had the state.  He said  that Medicaid                                                                    
expansion had been beneficial to the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  about   the  federal  spending  to                                                                    
Medicaid under  the current  administration at  the national                                                                    
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:59:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight replied that the  greatest risk for Alaksa was                                                                    
what would  happen to  the federal  match for  the expansion                                                                    
population.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:01:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked about the possibility  that people were                                                                    
unaware  they  were  enrolled  in  Medicare.  H  e  wondered                                                                    
whether   those  folks   were  not   receiving  primary   or                                                                    
preventative care or paying for more expansive care.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:01:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight replied that he did not know.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:02:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight addressed slide 14, "Comparison to Other                                                                          
States":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • We compared growth in  Medicaid spending in Alaska to                                                                    
     spending growth in six comparison states.                                                                                  
     • Each  state experienced  growth in  Medicaid spending                                                                    
     between FY2016 and FY2023,  but only Alaska experienced                                                                    
     a decrease in General Fund spending.                                                                                       
     •  Alaska  (along  with   Montana,  North  Dakota,  and                                                                    
     Wyoming)  also   experienced  a  decrease   in  average                                                                    
     spending per enrollee between FY2016 and FY2023.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:05:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight highlighted slide 15, "Comparison to Private                                                                      
Insurance in Alaska":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Enrollment in private insurance has been flat.                                                                           
     •  Cost  per  enrollee  has risen  faster  for  private                                                                    
     insurance.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:07:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight pointed to slide 17, "Alaska's Population Is                                                                      
Aging and Shrinking":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Expected to decline slightly over next 20 years                                                                          
     • Driven by a drop in the number of children                                                                               
     • Slight growth in the adult 2064 population                                                                               
     • Modest growth in the senior population                                                                                   
     • Trends impact more than just Medicaid                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:09:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight addressed slide 18, "Medicaid Reimbursement                                                                       
Rates and Medical                                                                                                               
Price Inflation":                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     •  Before FY2021,  medical  price  inflation in  Alaska                                                                    
     outpaced  Medicaid  reimbursement  rates by  about  3.6                                                                    
     percentage points per year.                                                                                                
     •  From FY2021  through FY2023,  Medicaid reimbursement                                                                    
     rates grew faster than medical price inflation.                                                                            
     •  Between FY2017  and  FY2024, Medicaid  reimbursement                                                                    
     rates  increased  by  27   percent  and  medical  price                                                                    
     inflation increased by 44 percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:11:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight looked at slide 19, "Faster Forecasted Growth                                                                     
in Spending":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Last  year's forecast  was for average  annual growth                                                                    
     of 4.4 percent.                                                                                                            
     •  Unwinding   has  had   little  impact   on  Medicaid                                                                    
     spending.                                                                                                                  
     •  Increasing Medicaid  reimbursement rates  are likely                                                                    
     "permanent".                                                                                                               
     • Continued shift toward IHS FFP rate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:13:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight pointed to slide 20, "Growth in Reimbursement                                                                     
Rates Will Drive Spending Growth":                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Growth  in recipients,  utilization,  and intensity  of                                                                    
     Medicaid services  will have relatively  modest impacts                                                                    
     on spending growth.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight discussed slide 21, "Impact of Allowing                                                                           
Reimbursement Rates to Grow at Same Rate as Medical Price                                                                       
Inflation":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Allowing Medicaid  reimbursement rates  to grow  at the                                                                    
     same rate  as medical price inflation  would add nearly                                                                    
     $800 million to Medicaid by FY2045.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight highlighted slide 23, "Medicaid Spending Is                                                                       
Driven by A Relatively Small Proportion of Recipients":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •  The  1  percent  of recipients  with  highest  costs                                                                    
     account for 22 percent of Medicaid spending.                                                                               
     •  The  10 percent  of  recipients  with highest  costs                                                                    
     account for 67 percent of Medicaid spending.                                                                               
     •  The  50  percent  of recipients  with  lowest  costs                                                                    
     account for only 4 percent of Medicaid spending                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:17:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight looked at slide 24, "Chronic Conditions and                                                                       
Age, FY2024":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Analyzed  FY2024 claims  data to  identify recipients                                                                    
     diagnosed with any of 64 different chronic conditions.                                                                     
     •  Defined a  recipient  as having  a specific  chronic                                                                    
     condition if he  or she received two  diagnoses for the                                                                    
     condition during FY2024.                                                                                                   
     • The number  of recipients diagnosed with  one or more                                                                    
     chronic conditions has remained stable since FY2019.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:19:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight pointed to slide 25, "Chronic Conditions                                                                          
Drive Medicaid Spending":                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Utilization  and  spending   on  Medicaid  services  is                                                                    
     directly  related to  the number  of chronic  condition                                                                    
     diagnoses an individual receives.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:20:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight looked at slide 26, "High-Cost Recipients and                                                                     
Chronic Conditions":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  10 percent  of  Medicaid  recipients with  highest                                                                    
     costs  are  much  more  likely  to  have  one  or  more                                                                    
     diagnosed chronic conditions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:22:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight addressed slide 27, "Chronic Conditions Drive                                                                     
Growth in Medicaid Spending":                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Today, 81  percent of Medicaid spending  is on services                                                                    
     for  recipients  diagnosed  with one  or  more  chronic                                                                    
     conditions.                                                                                                                
     This will increase to 84 percent by FY2045.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight highlighted slide 29, "Medical Price                                                                              
Inflation vs. Medicaid                                                                                                          
Reimbursement Rates":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Medical  care component  of the Consumer  Price Index                                                                    
     (MCPI) includes  only those parts of  healthcare goods,                                                                    
     services,  and health  insurance premiums  paid for  by                                                                    
     consumers "out of pocket."                                                                                                 
     • Medicaid Reimbursement Rates are  the amounts paid to                                                                    
     providers by  the Medicaid program for  covered medical                                                                    
     and related services based on  fee schedules, which are                                                                    
     reviewed annually, biennially,  or triennially, and are                                                                    
     periodically updated based on these reviews.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:23:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman  wondered  about   fraud  and  whether  the                                                                    
numbers had been audited to find fraud.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:23:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Helvoight replied  in the  affirmative and  stated that                                                                    
his assumption was that all  the numbers were legitimate. He                                                                    
said  that there  was a  group that  investigated fraud  and                                                                    
waste on a continual basis.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:24:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman thought  that  it would  be interesting  to                                                                    
know the reality within the  numbers. He asked whether there                                                                    
were any macrotrends that were at risk of driving up costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Helvoight thought that the  number of individuals with a                                                                    
diagnosed behavior  health or substance abuse  condition had                                                                    
increased, which  he believed could contribute  to increased                                                                    
costs. He  said that those  clients were more likely  to use                                                                    
the emergency room and use inpatient hospital services.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:26:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman asked whether there  had been any changes on                                                                    
the supply side that the committee should be aware of.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:27:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Helvoight   replied  that  he   did  not   have  enough                                                                    
information to respond.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman discussed the following day's agenda.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:28:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:28 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
030325 DOH MESA - Final Report - 022125.pdf SFIN 3/5/2025 9:00:00 AM
030525 DOH MESA FY2025-FY2045.pdf SFIN 3/5/2025 9:00:00 AM
030525 ASMI - Senate Finance 3-5-25.pdf SFIN 3/5/2025 9:00:00 AM