Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/26/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:25 AM Start
09:03:37 AM Public Testimony: Southeast, Prince William Sound, Kodiak, Offnets
10:28:21 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+= SB 56 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ SB 57 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 58 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ SB 59 APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL; FUND CAP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 26, 2025                                                                                          
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Doug  Woodby,  350  Juneau, Juneau;  Lauree  Morton,  Deputy                                                                    
Director,  Alaska Network  on Domestic  Violence and  Sexual                                                                    
Assault, Juneau; Fred W. Triem, Self, Petersburg.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Jaime  Palmer, Self,  Ketchikan; Marianne  Mills, President,                                                                    
Alaska Geriatric Exchange  Network, Juneau; Victoria Kildal,                                                                    
Alaska Behavioral Health  Association, Kodiak; Dustin Larna,                                                                    
Chief Executive Officer,  Residential Youth Care, Ketchikan;                                                                    
Conner  Pope,  Rendezvous   Senior  Day  Center,  Ketchikan;                                                                    
Michael  Robbins, Superintendent,  Ketchikan Gateway  School                                                                    
District,    Ketchikan;   Robyn    Taylor,   Superintendent,                                                                    
Petersburg  School District,  Petersburg; Marsha  Fernandez,                                                                    
Self,  Petersburg;  Jenny  Weisshaupt, Safe  Child  Advocacy                                                                    
Center, Catholic Community Services, Juneau.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 56     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          SB 56 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 57     APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          SB 57 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 58     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          SB 58 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 59     APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL; FUND CAP                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          SB 59 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC TESTIMONY: SOUTHEAST, PRINCE WILLIAM SOUND, KODIAK,                                                                      
OFFNETS                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the agenda.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 56                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations   and   other   appropriations;   making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  making appropriations  to capitalize                                                                    
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 58                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 59                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making supplemental appropriations; making                                                                         
     appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing for                                                                      
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PUBLIC TESTIMONY: SOUTHEAST,  PRINCE WILLIAM SOUND, KODIAK,                                                                  
OFFNETS                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:03:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAIME   PALMER,   SELF,  KETCHIKAN   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in  support of the  tourism marketing  budget. She                                                                    
shared that she had  eight businesses, including a boutique,                                                                    
a   candle  company,   a  consulting   firm,  and   property                                                                    
developments.  She stressed  that  small  businesses in  the                                                                    
state could not afford global  marketing without the help of                                                                    
the  state. She  discussed the  impact of  tourism marketing                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Senator Kiehl.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:06:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  WOODBY, 350  JUNEAU, JUNEAU,  spoke  in opposition  to                                                                    
funding  for  the  Alaska  Gasline  Development  Corporation                                                                    
(AGDC).  He referenced  15 prior  proposals  similar to  the                                                                    
AKLNG Project.  He pondered what  made the new  project more                                                                    
viable,  and  mentioned   President  Donald  Trump's  recent                                                                    
restrictions  on  materials  He considered  that  any  money                                                                    
spent  on AGDC  was  money taken  from  education and  other                                                                    
essential services.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:08:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAUREE MORTON,  DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ALASKA NETWORK  ON DOMESTIC                                                                    
VIOLENCE  AND SEXUAL  ASSAULT, JUNEAU,  spoke in  support of                                                                    
funding  for   victims  of  domestic  violence   and  sexual                                                                    
assault. She read from her written remarks:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     My name  is Lauree Morton.  I'm the Deputy  Director of                                                                    
     the  Alaska Network  on  Domestic  Violence and  Sexual                                                                    
     Assault;  the membership  organization for  Alaska's 24                                                                    
     domestic violence  and sexual assault  service provider                                                                    
     agencies.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We  appreciate the  work done  last  session to  ensure                                                                    
     funding  for  FY25  remained  the  same  as  FY24.  The                                                                    
     Governor's  budget  continues  that amount  into  FY26.                                                                    
     You'll be  hearing from providers about  exemplary work                                                                    
     being done  to increase safety  for victims as  well as                                                                    
     the difficulties  operating a 24/7 365-day  facility in                                                                    
     calendar  year 2025  working  with  funds that  haven't                                                                    
     increased in 7 years.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I  understand the  difficulty  before  you of  juggling                                                                    
     crucial  priorities. We  know  education  funding is  a                                                                    
     critical issue  for the  State this  year and  hope you                                                                    
     are able to  find a viable and  sustainable solution to                                                                    
     that crisis.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     While we  are not asking  for an increase to  the CDVSA                                                                    
     grants line  for FY 26,  we want you  to be aware  of a                                                                    
     funding precipice  heading our  way in  FY 27.  For the                                                                    
     last  several  years,  Senator  Murkowski  appropriated                                                                    
     approximately  $4.2 million  dollars to  CDVSA to  help                                                                    
     manage  the  Victims  of Crime  Act  (VOCA)  shortfall.                                                                    
     Those dollars will not be  renewed and will be spent by                                                                    
     state fiscal year  27. So, we are looking  at a deficit                                                                    
     of $4  .2 millionjust  to  hold the line.  And frankly,                                                                    
     holding the  line is  losing ground.  I'd also  call to                                                                    
     your attention Violent  Crimes Compensation that relies                                                                    
     on VOCA.  As a reminder,  if state dollars  are reduced                                                                    
     in one year,  federal VOCA dollars will  be reduced the                                                                    
     following year. We don't want  to see a downward spiral                                                                    
     in funds that can directly  help all victims of violent                                                                    
     crime.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We  understand sacrifice  and  the  necessity of  maybe                                                                    
     taking a backseat for FY26, and  we want you to know of                                                                    
     the difficult choices we'll be  bringing forward to you                                                                    
     for state fiscal year 27.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIANNE   MILLS,  PRESIDENT,   ALASKA  GERIATRIC   EXCHANGE                                                                    
NETWORK, JUNEAU  (via teleconference), testified  in support                                                                    
of   a 15 percent  increase in senior services  grant funds.                                                                    
She contended that non-profits  offered through the Division                                                                    
of  Senior   and  Disability   Services.  She   stated  that                                                                    
insufficient  services   at  lower  levels  of   care  drove                                                                    
Alaskans  to  use  emergency rooms,  which  were  high  cost                                                                    
drivers. She described that a  15 percent increase in senior                                                                    
services grant funds would lower  the cost in other areas of                                                                    
care. She  mentioned a  survey by  the Alaska  Commission on                                                                    
Aging (ACA).  She recounted that  the previous  session, the                                                                    
legislature had supported an increase in the grant.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:14:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICTORIA  KILDAL,  ALASKA   BEHAVIORAL  HEALTH  ASSOCIATION,                                                                    
KODIAK  (via  teleconference), spoke  in  support  of a  $30                                                                    
million increase in funding  for behavioral health services.                                                                    
She noted  that she was  a lifelong Alaskan. She  shared the                                                                    
issues related  to behavioral  health in  the state  such as                                                                    
suicide  and lack  of behavioral  health resources  to those                                                                    
who are in crisis.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:16:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl handed the gavel to Co-Chair Stedman.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DUSTIN  LARNA, CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER, RESIDENTIAL  YOUTH                                                                    
CARE, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference), testified  in support                                                                    
of  increasing the  operating budget  for behavioral  health                                                                    
services. He  referenced Dr. Kildal's remarks,  and the fact                                                                    
that Alaska  had the highest  suicide rate of any  state. He                                                                    
mentioned the  inability to  keep staff due  to low  pay. He                                                                    
posited that an  increase in funding would  help stabilize a                                                                    
system of care that had been  running at a deficit, in order                                                                    
to provide the care that was needed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:19:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONNER POPE,  RENDEZVOUS SENIOR  DAY CENTER,  KETCHIKAN (via                                                                    
teleconference),  supported  increased  funding  for  senior                                                                    
services. He discussed the  difficulty of expanding services                                                                    
while  costs  are  increasing. He  noted  that  the  state's                                                                    
senior population  was growing, and services  were needed at                                                                    
an exponential rate.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:20:59 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:36:54 AM                                                                                                                    
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FRED  W. TRIEM,  SELF, PETERSBURG,  testified in  support of                                                                    
the  state adopting  a property  transfer tax.   He  relayed                                                                    
that  he was  an  attorney  and spent  time  on appeals.  He                                                                    
discussed examples  of states with a  real property transfer                                                                    
tax. The tax  amounts he had seen through  his research were                                                                    
in the range  of 1 percent to 3 percent  of the transaction.                                                                    
He pondered the  sale of a $1 million  property, which would                                                                    
be  paid at  the time  of closing.  States that  had adopted                                                                    
such  a tax  often shared  the  tax at  different levels  of                                                                    
government.  He  addressed  the   concept  of  "justice  for                                                                    
government"   and  considered   that  the   government  made                                                                    
properties more  valuable and constituted a  "micro return."                                                                    
He used the example of friends  that had purchased a home on                                                                    
Starr  Hill  for  $30,000.  The   individuals  had  made  an                                                                    
enormous profit  due to all  the things government  had done                                                                    
to  make   the  property   more  valuable,   including  road                                                                    
maintenance,  hospitals,  schools,  etc. He  cautioned  that                                                                    
such  a tax  proposal would  generate a  firestorm from  the                                                                    
real estate industry.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:42:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  ROBBINS, SUPERINTENDENT,  KETCHIKAN GATEWAY  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT,  KETCHIKAN  (via   teleconference),  testified  in                                                                    
support  of  an  increase  to the  Base  Student  Allocation                                                                    
(BSA). He  cited that teachers  were leaving at  an alarming                                                                    
rate  due  to  the  persistent uncertainty  of  funding.  He                                                                    
thought the  situation diminished  the quality  of education                                                                    
provided in  the state. He  suggested that a lack  of stable                                                                    
and   predictable  funding   created  uncertainty   and  the                                                                    
inability to make accurate budget decisions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:45:32 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:00:55 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROBYN  TAYLOR, SUPERINTENDENT,  PETERSBURG SCHOOL  DISTRICT,                                                                    
PETERSBURG  (via  teleconference),   spoke  in  support  for                                                                    
funding an  increase to  the BSA.  The increase  would allow                                                                    
Petersburg  to invest  in the  long-term.   She had  been an                                                                    
educator  in the  state for  25  years. She  thought it  was                                                                    
critical  that  the  legislature   establish  a  stable  and                                                                    
predictable funding.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:03:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARSHA  FERNANDEZ,  SELF, PETERSBURG  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in support  an increase to the BSA. She  was a retired                                                                    
commercial fisherman in  the state, and shared  that she had                                                                    
experience  with budgets.  She  wondered where  specifically                                                                    
the budget pertained to.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman stated  that the budget was  related to the                                                                    
state funding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fernandez asked if the state had areas of concern.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman mentioned the  Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                    
(AMHS).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fernandez mentioned essential air services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   affirmed  that  air  services   were  in                                                                    
jeopardy in rural Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fernandez agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman mentioned  challenges dealing with seniors.                                                                    
He mentioned the Meals on  Wheels program and the upkeep and                                                                    
repair of Alaska Pioneer Homes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fernandez mentioned Department of Fish and Game.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Senator Kiehl.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:07:26 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:21:46 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:43 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:23:58 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JENNY  WEISSHAUPT,  SAFE  CHILD  ADVOCACY  CENTER,  CATHOLIC                                                                    
COMMUNITY SERVICES,  JUNEAU (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
in support of funding for  the Office of Childrens Services.                                                                    
She stated  that there  was a model  within the  office that                                                                    
was a partnership to respond  to crises that occurred within                                                                    
the Office of Childrens Services.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:28:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:28 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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