Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/20/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 20, 2025                                                                                          
                         9:00 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:00:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Nils Andreassen, Executive Director, Alaska Municipal                                                                           
League; Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:01:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  MUNICIPAL                                                                    
LEAGUE,  (AML)  discussed  the presentation,  "Condition  of                                                                    
Communities" (copy on  file). He pointed to  slide 2, "About                                                                    
AML  75th Anniversary!":                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The purpose of the Alaska Municipal League is to:                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
       Safeguard the interests, rights, and privileges of                                                                       
     Alaskan municipalities as they may be affected by                                                                          
     Federal and State governmental actions.                                                                                    
       Secure cooperation among  municipalities of the State                                                                    
     in  a  thorough study  of  local  problems and  in  the                                                                    
     application of efficient methods of local government.                                                                      
        Provide   means  whereby  municipal   officials  may                                                                    
     interchange  ideas,  experiences,   and  obtain  expert                                                                    
     advice.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The objectives of the Alaska Municipal League are to:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       Perpetuate  and develop the  League as an  agency for                                                                    
     the  cooperation of  municipalities  for the  practical                                                                    
     study of municipal affairs.                                                                                                
        Promote  application  of the  best  methods  in  all                                                                    
     branches  of municipal  service and  the discussion  of                                                                    
     problems of administration.                                                                                                
        Gather  and  circulate  information  and  experience                                                                    
     concerning  the  most  approved  methods  of  municipal                                                                    
     administration.                                                                                                            
        Secure  general  and municipal  legislation  at  the                                                                    
     state and  federal levels which  will be  beneficial to                                                                    
     the  municipalities  and  inhabitants thereof,  and  to                                                                    
     oppose legislation injurious thereto.                                                                                      
        Engage  in  the  study and  preparation  of  uniform                                                                    
     ordinances, resolutions, and practices                                                                                     
        Strengthen  Alaskan  local governments'  ability  to                                                                    
     govern  their own  affairs and  improve the  well-being                                                                    
     and quality of life of their constituents.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed slide 3, "Differences that make a                                                                      
Difference":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's local governments are not created equal                                                                           
       Home rule vs. general law; limited vs. full service                                                                      
       Choices of some are not obligations of all                                                                               
        Uneven  systems  create questions  of  fairness  and                                                                    
     inequity                                                                                                                   
       Tax base, population,  and statutory obligations have                                                                    
     consequences                                                                                                               
       As political subdivisions of  the state, the power of                                                                    
     partnership  means  delivery  of  services  that  would                                                                    
     otherwise be the State's responsibility.                                                                                   
        Additional   services  are  paid  by   taxpayers  or                                                                    
     otherwise limit current activities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 4, "Municipal Lane":                                                                             
     Education                                                                                                                
     • 34 municipal school districts                                                                                            
     • 4 greater than State contribution Public Safety                                                                          
     • 70 with police powers                                                                                                    
     • 40 with combined budgets $75 million more than DPS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transportation                                                                                                           
       Public Works                                                                                                             
     • Road Miles = DOTandPF                                                                                                    
     • 37 Electric Utilities                                                                                                    
     • 72 Ports and Harbors                                                                                                     
     • 112Water/Wastewater                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Quality of Life                                                                                                          
     • 47 Public Libraries                                                                                                      
     • Parks and Recreation                                                                                                     
     • Community Pools                                                                                                          
     • Ice Skating Rinks                                                                                                        
       Community Halls                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen looked at slide 5, "Planning, Platting, and                                                                      
Land Use                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       Planning: The process of evaluating the best ways to                                                                   
     use land for the public's benefit.                                                                                         
       Platting: The process of subdividing land, including                                                                   
    recording the plat with the SOA District Recorder.                                                                          
       Land use regulation: The process of creating and                                                                       
     enforcing rules for how land can be used.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Costs of Compliance = $30 million                                                                                          
       Planning Commissions                                                                                                     
       Small $24-60k annually                                                                                                   
       Medium $60-120k annually                                                                                                 
       Large $120-300k annually                                                                                                 
       Comprehensive Plans (29.40.030 and .010)                                                                                 
       Small $50-150k                                                                                                           
       Medium $150-400k (Seward, Nome, Kodiak)                                                                                  
       Large $500k-$1M (Mat Su, Anchorage)                                                                                      
        Additional  -  Land Use  Plans  (29.40.040),  Hazard                                                                    
     Mitigation  Plans  (FEMA), Capital  Improvement  (State                                                                    
     funds),  Transportation  (MPOs),  Economic  Development                                                                    
     (EDA), Water/Sewer (utilities)                                                                                             
     $2000-2500 to DNR for survey or platting services                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:12:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen highlighted  slide  6, "Planning,  Platting,                                                                    
and Land Use                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     State ? (AS 29.65) Municipal Entitlement Act                                                                           
     • Vacant, Unappropriated, Unreserved (VUU)                                                                                 
     • Certified Entitlement - (AS) 29.65.010                                                                                   
     • Patented  deed has been recorded                                                                                         
     • Approved - but deed not recorded                                                                                         
    • Conditional - State retains management authority                                                                          
     • Selected  lands have been applied for                                                                                    
    • Estimated Remaining  what's left, pending survey                                                                          
     (29.65.070(a))                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  noted  that  the  greater  access  to  full                                                                    
entitlement the greater chance the  land can be developed by                                                                    
local governments.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:14:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen displayed slide 7, "School Funding                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       $530 million in local tax contributions                                                                                  
       Five contribute more than the State                                                                                      
       Own and maintain 76 percent of schools                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen highlighted that  since FY17 municipal school                                                                    
district  funding had  increased by  13 percent  while state                                                                    
funding  had  decreased.  He   said  that  approximately  50                                                                    
percent  of   municipal  school  budgets  came   from  local                                                                    
contributions. He  said that the  majority of school  is the                                                                    
state were often owned and  maintained by municipalities and                                                                    
not the  state. He pointed  to the  graph on the  right hand                                                                    
side   of   the   slide   which   illustrated   FY23   local                                                                    
contributions as percent of municipal budgets.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 8, "Public Works":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Society of Civil Engineers  2024 Fact Sheet and 2021                                                                     
     Report                                                                                                                   
       1,632 bridges  8.2 percent structurally deficient                                                                        
       30 high-hazard dams, of 184                                                                                              
       $1.4 billion drinking water need                                                                                         
       $199 million in wastewater needs                                                                                         
     37 percent of roads are in poor or fair condition                                                                          
       Solid waste - C                                                                                                          
       3.4 million passenger trips across municipal,                                                                            
     tribal, and nonprofit systems                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Ports and Harbors  D+                                                                                                    
       125 ports and harbors  freight, commercial fishing,                                                                      
     tourism, etc.                                                                                                              
       $500 million needed for State-transferred assets                                                                         
     (circa 2000)                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:20:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   spoke  to  the  Harbor   Matching  Grant                                                                    
Program,  which  included  a  50  percent  state  match  for                                                                    
improvements. Under  the program  the municipality  was then                                                                    
expected  to not  come back  to the  legislature to  request                                                                    
funds  for maintenance  but to  set  up a  reserve in  their                                                                    
structure to  run as enterprise  funds. He  wondered whether                                                                    
an  analysis on  the  varying  responsibilities between  the                                                                    
state and municipalities had been conducted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:20:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied  that such and analysis  had not been                                                                    
done.  He  contended that  many  of  the ports  and  harbors                                                                    
currently managed  by local governments had  belonged to the                                                                    
state at one point. He said  that those assets came with the                                                                    
agreement that  the state would  continue to  support harbor                                                                    
needs through the  grant, which was a  50/50 partnership. He                                                                    
argued  that   many  of  the  harbors   had  already  needed                                                                    
improvements and that municipalities  had made some progress                                                                    
but not  to the extend  necessary. He shared  that municipal                                                                    
budgets  could be  mined for  numbers pertaining  to current                                                                    
local obligation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:22:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  said that  the program  was an  attempt to                                                                    
make  the harbors  self sufficient  without the  state being                                                                    
responsible  for  maintenance   or  new  infrastructure.  He                                                                    
believed  that  the  harbor  should  be  paying  for  itself                                                                    
considering  the  additional  50  percent  provided  by  the                                                                    
matching grant program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed slide 9, "Public Safety":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Police Powers                                                                                                            
     Home Rule City First Class City Second Class City                                                                          
     Registered Under Federal Law                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  noted the 50 programs  throughout the state.                                                                    
He pointed to  the smaller inlayed map that  showed areas of                                                                    
the  state   were  broken  into  Local   Emergency  Planning                                                                    
Districts (LEPD).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:24:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen pointed to slide 10, "Quality of Life":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Full-Service Communities                                                                                                 
       Pools                                                                                                                    
       Parks                                                                                                                    
       Schools                                                                                                                  
       Trails                                                                                                                   
       Rec centers                                                                                                              
       Cemeteries                                                                                                               
       Museums                                                                                                                  
       Senior centers                                                                                                           
       Festivals                                                                                                                
       Activities                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He noted the bar graph on  the slide, which showed the seven                                                                    
aspects of quality of community life:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • As a Place to Work                                                                                                    
        • As a Place to Retire                                                                                                  
        • As a Place to Visit                                                                                                   
        • As a Place for Kids                                                                                                   
        • Overall Quality of Life                                                                                               
        • Your Neighborhood as a Place to Live                                                                                  
        • As a Place to Live                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:26:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted  that the graph was  a nationwide and                                                                    
thought that  it would  be helpful to  have a  similar graph                                                                    
that  was  more  specific  to  Alaska  and  things  uniquely                                                                    
Alaskan.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cronk  considered that  living free  from government                                                                    
interference was  more important to people  in his districts                                                                    
than the need  for museums or any of the  other items listed                                                                    
on the slide, i.e., schools, cemeteries, parks, and trails.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed slide 11, "Salary Survey                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Accounting Clerk                                                                                                         
     Municipal Range                                                                                                          
     Low: $15.00-36.42                                                                                                          
     High: $18.00-48.61                                                                                                         
     State of Alaska                                                                                                          
     Accounting Clerk (PCN 117072)                                                                                              
     Full Time $20.21-$21.22 Hourly                                                                                             
     Statewide                                                                                                                
     Average: $26.25                                                                                                            
     25th percentile: $21.91                                                                                                    
     75th percentile: 29.89                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Firefighter                                                                                                              
     Municipal                                                                                                                
     Low: $19.67  37.17                                                                                                         
     High: $31.25  62.02                                                                                                        
     Statewide                                                                                                                
     Average: $53.34                                                                                                            
     25th percentile: $40.89                                                                                                    
     75th percentile: $62.44                                                                                                    
     State of Alaska                                                                                                          
     Seasonal/Long Term Nonperm                                                                                                 
     $23.50 - $33.96                                                                                                            
     Full Time                                                                                                                  
     $33.18 - $42.97                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Police Officer                                                                                                           
     Municipal Range                                                                                                          
     Low: $29.96-38.90                                                                                                          
     High: $38.21-60.46                                                                                                         
     Village Police Officer: $13.87/hr                                                                                          
     Public Safety Officer: $15-18/hr                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 12, "Tax Base                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:29:52 AM                                                                                                                    
Mr.  Andreassen spoked  to slide  13, "Concentration  of Tax                                                                    
Revenue   The  slide showed  a move from  $8 million  to $11                                                                    
million. He  noted that the  slides did not  reflect whether                                                                    
taxes had gone  up or down but rather that  the tax base had                                                                    
become diversified.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:30:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked what the percentage represented.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:30:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  replied that  it was  the percentage  of all                                                                    
the different taxes that made up  the tax base. He agreed to                                                                    
provide more information later.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:31:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Andreassen   highlighted    slide   14,    "Mandatory                                                                    
Exemptions                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     15.7$ billion in 2023                                                                                                      
     12.4 percent of total taxable value                                                                                        
     Not all jurisdictions appraise exempt categories                                                                           
The  slide showed  that mandatory  exemptions  in 2023  were                                                                    
awarded     to:     Senior    and     Disabled     Veterans,                                                                    
Nonprofit/Charitable,   Hospitals,   Education,  Tribal   or                                                                    
Native Allotment,  Churches, Farm  Use Land    Deferred, and                                                                    
Cemeteries. The right-hand side  of the slide the percentage                                                                    
of property tax  base that was subject to  S/DV exemption in                                                                    
2023, by borough.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:32:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen displayed slide 15, "Optional Exemptions":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       $27.4 billion exempted in 2024                                                                                           
       Includes real and personal property, including                                                                           
     modeled values.                                                                                                            
       Including mandatory exemptions, 34.2 percent of all                                                                      
     property is exempt.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The slide offered a pie chart  that showed the share of real                                                                    
property  that is  subject to  optional exemptions,  and the                                                                    
value  of  real  property real  property  option  exemptions                                                                    
figure  for   2024,  which  included   residential,  senior,                                                                    
community purpose, and other.                                                                                                   
9:33:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked about retaining  seniors in the state                                                                    
who are  living on fixed  incomes. He relayed  that freezing                                                                    
property  taxes for  seniors over  a certain  age was  under                                                                    
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:34:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman added  that the  effects  of inflation  on                                                                    
property taxes  had sparked the  discussion of a  freeze for                                                                    
seniors.  He stressed  that the  state was  losing too  many                                                                    
seniors  and   that  more  and  more   seniors  were  losing                                                                    
generational homes for failure to pay property taxes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:36:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen replied that AML  had investigated the senior                                                                    
exemption history, which had been  in established in 1972 as                                                                    
a  needs-based program.  He said  that the  projected growth                                                                    
for  the  senor population  between  now  and 2025  was  207                                                                    
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  addressed slide 16,  "Stressed Communities                                                                      
The  slide  showed a  computer  dashboard  developed by  the                                                                    
Division  of   Community  and   Regional  Affairs   and  the                                                                    
Department of  Environmental Conservation. The  slide showed                                                                    
rural  communities  involved  in   the  Village  Safe  Water                                                                    
Program.  The  slide  offered   best  practice  scores.  The                                                                    
dashboard  was  intended   to  illustrate  current  capacity                                                                    
indicators in the 196 communities  eligible for Village Safe                                                                    
Water funding  that choose to  participate in  Operation and                                                                    
Maintenance Best  Practices Dashboard.  He noted  that since                                                                    
2016  there has  not been  much progress  on improving  best                                                                    
practices for communities.  He thought that it  was a matter                                                                    
that needed improvements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Andreassen   discussed   slide  17,   "Challenges   to                                                                    
Overcome                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       Net Outmigration                                                                                                         
       Reduced Purchasing Power                                                                                                 
       Old Code                                                                                                                 
       Workforce                                                                                                                
       Housing                                                                                                                  
       Increased Costs                                                                                                          
       Limiting Liability                                                                                                       
       Uncertainty                                                                                                              
       Working Together                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen relayed  that the chart on the  slide did not                                                                    
reflect Alaska  but represented  the social  determinants of                                                                    
health  in  communities,  which  included  four  components;                                                                    
Health and Wellness,  Economic Ecosystem, Built Environment,                                                                    
and Social and Civic Infrastructure.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:40:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen pointed to slide 18, "Net Outmigration":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       What do we do to reverse trends?                                                                                         
       How do communities plan based on projections?                                                                            
     How do policies respond to different age groups?                                                                           
     How do policies respond to regional differences?                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The  slide  contained  five charts  showing  the  following:                                                                    
Population Age  0 to  19, Alaska,  1980 to  2050; Population                                                                    
Age 20 to 64, Alaska, 1980  to 2050; Population Age 65 plus,                                                                    
Alaska, 1980 to  2050; Population by Alaska  Region, 2023 to                                                                    
2050, and the Alaska Net Migration Rate, 1980 to 2025.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Andreassen   shared   that  local   governments   were                                                                    
considering what changes  were affecting Alaskans  decisions                                                                    
to stay  or leave the state  and how to manage  the outcomes                                                                    
of those choices.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:41:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested the charts be  redone to reflect                                                                    
the   changes  in   state   population  demographics   since                                                                    
statehood in 1958.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:42:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman wondered  about  the  various impacts  that                                                                    
could  result from  populations in  each specific  age range                                                                    
projected.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen replied  tht  he would  follow  up with  the                                                                    
committee with  a report  from the  Department of  Labor and                                                                    
Workforce Development (DLWD).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:43:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  spoke to  the  issue  of housing  in  the                                                                    
state.  He  cited  specifically the  problem  of  short-term                                                                    
rentals displacing long-term rentals.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:44:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  addressed  slide  19,  "Reduced  Purchasing                                                                    
Power":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       $30 million in 2017 would be $39 million today = 25                                                                      
     percent reduction in purchasing power                                                                                      
       Public safety  one officer that was $80,000 in                                                                           
     2017, is $120,000 today = 125 fewer officers                                                                               
       Roads  resurfacing was $200,000 in 2015, and is now                                                                      
     $300,000 = 50 fewer road miles                                                                                             
       Affects the 89 local governments receiving the least                                                                     
     amount of Community Assistance, or the largest three.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  chart   contained  national  numbers.   Mr.  Andreassen                                                                    
lamented  the  lack  of   inflation  proofing  in  community                                                                    
assistance.  He   said  that  the  reduction   in  community                                                                    
assistance   affected   smaller    and   rural   governments                                                                    
differently than larger local governments.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:46:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  believed that educating the  newer members                                                                    
of  the  legislature  about  the  program  was  critical  to                                                                    
staving off cuts to the program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:47:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  agreed. He noted  that the  Senate Finance                                                                    
Committee had worked  to reinstate the program  after it had                                                                    
been cut by the administration.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:47:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed slide 20, "Old Code":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Keeping up with Code                                                                                                       
     • Late 1970s  development of template code                                                                                 
     • 1980s adopted by many                                                                                                    
     •  Standard  language   without  adaptation  for  local                                                                    
     circumstance                                                                                                               
     • Few changes since then, for many.                                                                                        
     • DCRA code library                                                                                                        
     • All boroughs and home rule cities                                                                                        
     • Most first class cities                                                                                                  
     • 47 of 116, or 40 percent                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen believed that the old codes could be                                                                             
reviewed and updated to support stressed communities.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:49:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 21, "Workforce":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
       Vacancies                                                                                                              
        14  percent average  for  state  jobs, according  to                                                                    
     LegFin = 2,000                                                                                                             
         Local  governments   range  similarly   from  10-40                                                                    
     percent, depending on department                                                                                           
        2017-2021,  average  teacher turnover  rate  was  23                                                                    
     percent                                                                                                                    
       Poaching                                                                                                               
        Increasingly common  between  local governments  and                                                                    
     with the state  small pool of public sector employees                                                                      
       Nonresident Hire  State and Local Government                                                                           
        Of top  20 occupations,  7 are  schools, as  much as                                                                    
     14.9 percent                                                                                                               
       Police  (9.3 percent) and Correctional  Officers (6.6                                                                  
     percent)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen stated that local governments were exploring                                                                     
many ways to address recruitment and retention challenges.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:52:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Andreassen   looked    at   slide    22,   "Housing":                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Local governments part of housing solution                                                                                 
       Subdivision and housing development                                                                                      
       Utilities and access                                                                                                     
       Accessory Dwelling Units                                                                                                 
       Manufactured homes                                                                                                       
       Investment and capital                                                                                                   
       Exemptions and abatement                                                                                                 
       Workforce housing                                                                                                        
       Housing assessments                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Key Facts:                                                                                                                 
     Renter households that are extremely low-income                                                                            
     19,545 or 21 percent                                                                                                     
     Shortage of  rental homes affordable and  available for                                                                    
     extremely low-income renters                                                                                               
     -14,722                                                                                                                  
     Average income limit  for 4-person extremely low-income                                                                    
     household                                                                                                                  
     $34,690                                                                                                                  
     Annual household income needed  to afford a two-bedroom                                                                    
     rental home at HUDs Fair Market Rent                                                                                       
     $59,516                                                                                                                  
     Percent of extremely  low-income renter households with                                                                    
     severe cost burden                                                                                                         
     64 percent                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • Alaska needs an estimated 27,000 housing units                                                                        
          over the next 10 years.                                                                                               
        • 14,000 new units are needed to address population                                                                     
          growth and severe overcrowding.                                                                                       
        • 13,500 units need replacement or renovation due                                                                       
          to housing condition.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        • Over 150,000 housing units were built in the                                                                          
          1970s and 80s.                                                                                                        
        • Just over 20,000 units have been built since                                                                          
          2010.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:53:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 23, "Increased Costs":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Heating  fuel in 2017  was around 4.49/gallon  and in                                                                    
     January 2024 was $6.54.                                                                                                    
     • "Fuel is  a 5th of our budget"    due to high prices,                                                                    
     "the city  ordered 7,000 gallons  less than  normal but                                                                    
     still paid $30,000 more"                                                                                                   
     • Insurance costs are especially impacts to highlight.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  spoke to the  rising costs of  insurance. He                                                                    
spoke to the line graph on  the slide, which showed the rise                                                                    
in insurance  over the  seven years.  He said  that property                                                                    
insurance had doubled over recent years.                                                                                        
9:55:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen discussed  slide  24, "Limiting  Liability                                                                      
The slide  showed a  series of  bar graphs  that illustrated                                                                    
liability  frequency and  severity  by claim  type over  the                                                                    
last 10 years.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:56:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen pointed to slide 25, "Uncertainty":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Natural disasters                                                                                                        
       Cyber attacks                                                                                                            
       Federal agency priorities                                                                                                
       Future of federal funding                                                                                                
       State revenue shortfall                                                                                                  
       Fisheries                                                                                                                
       Tax exempt bonds                                                                                                         
       Federal budget                                                                                                           
       Economy  inflation, development                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     "Local government is a balancing act between immediate                                                                     
     needs and long-term planning in a constantly evolving                                                                      
     landscape."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The slide contained a bar  graph that illustrated sources of                                                                    
uncertainty in  local policymaking. Respondents  who replied                                                                    
to    the    question   included:    economic    conditions,                                                                    
state/federal   funding,  state/federal   regulation,  voter                                                                    
opinion, and constituent groups.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:57:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 26, "AML Shared Solutions":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Our shared services are intended to strengthen local                                                                       
     governments' capacity.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Financial Success:                                                                                                       
          Alaska Municipal Financial Solutions                                                                                  
          Alaska Municipal League Investment Pool (AMLIP)                                                                       
          Sales Tax Collection Service (STCS)                                                                                   
          CashVest                                                                                                              
          Online Sales Tax                                                                                                      
          Grant Writing                                                                                                         
          Public Surplus procurement                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Employee Benefits:                                                                                                       
          Unemployment Insurance                                                                                                
          Workshield                                                                                                            
          Strategic Hiring                                                                                                      
          Alaska Municipal Health Trust (AMHT)                                                                                  
          Nationwide Retirement Solutions                                                                                       
          Effective Operations:                                                                                                 
          Live Healthy Discount Program                                                                                         
          Professional Development Academy                                                                                      
          Employee Mental Wellness                                                                                              
          Reporting and Compliance                                                                                              
          Remote Notary Services                                                                                                
          Cybersecurity Solutions                                                                                               
          Planning                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Effective Operations:                                                                                                    
     Live Healthy Discount Program                                                                                              
     Professional Development Academy                                                                                           
     Employee Mental Wellness                                                                                                   
     Reporting and Compliance                                                                                                   
     Remote Notary Services                                                                                                     
     Cybersecurity Solutions                                                                                                    
     Planning                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:58:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen looked at slide 27, "Role of State Decision-                                                                     
Making":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       Operating Budget                                                                                                         
       Community Assistance                                                                                                     
       PERS/TRS                                                                                                                 
       Schools  Finance                                                                                                         
       Schools  Facilities                                                                                                      
       Capital Budget                                                                                                           
       Infrastructure Investment                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The slide included a bar graph that showed the top 10                                                                           
policy areas targeted by Alaska State Regulation in 2023.                                                                       
9:59:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  addressed slide 28, "Operating  Budget.  The                                                                    
slide contained four bar graphs  of local government budgets                                                                    
for Fairbanks, Juneau,  Anchorage, and the Matanuska-Susitna                                                                    
Borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:01:18 AM                                                                                                                   
Mr. Andreassen  looked at slide 29,  "Community Assistance                                                                      
He  relayed that  the program  was  like a  fee for  service                                                                    
program in  the 1970s  and 80s. He  said that  overtime that                                                                    
had   changed,   with  community   assistance   disappearing                                                                    
altogether, which resulted in the  loss of 8 communities. He                                                                    
stressed that  the absence of community  assistance directly                                                                    
affected the  health of Alaskan communities.  He highlighted                                                                    
that  community  assistance  comprised  between  10  and  40                                                                    
percent of half of the  communities in the state. He pointed                                                                    
to the bar  graph on the slide that  showed the diminishment                                                                    
of the assistance overtime.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen pointed to slide 30, "PERS/TRS":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recommendations from 2019  to be updated                                                                                   
       Remove interest charged to PERS arrearages                                                                               
       Update salary floor, or remove                                                                                           
     Remove administrative costs of termination study                                                                           
      Develop mechanism for smaller employers to exit                                                                           
       Enable employer to pay off their portion of net                                                                          
     pension liability                                                                                                          
       Address amortization period, and provide assessment                                                                      
     of additional costs                                                                                                        
       State to fund cost of difference between State                                                                           
     projected employment and actual vacancy rates                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  said that local  government were  focused on                                                                    
the  2008 salary  floor that  was costing  local governments                                                                    
and  other   employers  $26  million.  He   said  that  many                                                                    
considered  themselves  prisoners  of PERS   largely due  to                                                                    
the net  pension liability. He wondered  whether a different                                                                    
system could  be considered. He  noted the pie chart  on the                                                                    
right  which  showed how  local  governments  fit in  as  an                                                                    
employer in the overall system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:07:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought that  the issue  was who  paid the                                                                    
unfunded liability.  He said that the  termination study was                                                                    
put  in place  to stop  the shift  of the  liability to  the                                                                    
state.  He noted  that  employers in  the  PERS system  were                                                                    
obligated  to  pay  their   employees.  He  expressed  great                                                                    
concern for the growing unfunded  liability and how it would                                                                    
impact  employees. He  thought that  the mathematical  model                                                                    
used by  the ARM  Board was dysfunctional.  He spoke  to the                                                                    
projected  contribution   rate  proposed  for   the  current                                                                    
budget, which was substantial and  an increase. He said that                                                                    
there was  an interest in  reviewing the 22 percent  cap. He                                                                    
hoped that  the rate  could be  slowly decreased.  He warned                                                                    
that  the  current course  of  action  was not  working.  He                                                                    
thought that it was immoral  to straddle young Alaskans with                                                                    
liability created in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:12:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:12:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl felt  that  the cost  of  the current  system                                                                    
pushed  down  on municipalities  and  was  a cost  to  local                                                                    
taxpayers.  He believed  that discussions  with  the ARM  on                                                                    
revamping  the   system  were  critical.  He   stressed  the                                                                    
importance of  considering the  costs to  municipalities and                                                                    
who managed the systems.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:14:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  believed that municipalities needed  to be                                                                    
at the table for future talks on the matter.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:15:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  added  that  the ARM  board  actuary  had                                                                    
presented  some calculation  to the  committee and  would be                                                                    
back to present in more detail.  He said that the 13 percent                                                                    
of  the  aggregate  city hall  payroll  going  for  unfunded                                                                    
liability  had  to come  from  somewhere.  He believed  that                                                                    
issue would have ripples throughout future generations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:16:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  agreed. He  said that AML  would like  to be                                                                    
part of  future discussion as local  governments and Alaskan                                                                    
taxpayers  were  currently making  up  a  percentage of  the                                                                    
unfunded  liability.  He  noted   that  when  PERS  was  re-                                                                    
amortized from  2031 to 2039  it shifted $20 million  of the                                                                    
liability to local taxpayers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:17:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen highlighted slide 31, "Public Education":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Recommended and  Funded Capital Renewal by  Fiscal Year                                                                    
       DEED 2024 Facilities                                                                                                     
       FY 6-year plan = $1,846,645,049 ($200M+ AVG)                                                                             
       19 districts did not submit 6-year plan / 35 percent                                                                     
       Plans range from 2 to 6 years                                                                                            
       HB2003   Evaluation  of combination of grant program,                                                                    
     GO Bond, and SBDR =  1/3 of all schools benefiting from                                                                    
     major maintenance                                                                                                          
       FY11-24  - Grants from School  Construction and Major                                                                    
     Maintenance   resulted  in   an   average  for   school                                                                    
     construction of  $52,677,128 (42  percent MSD)  and for                                                                    
     major maintenance  of $14,017,113 (59 percent  MSD). 60                                                                    
     percent of school districts have benefited.                                                                                
         13  of   24  municipal   districts  submitted   112                                                                    
     applications for  debt reimbursement = $803  million (0                                                                    
     since 2016)                                                                                                                
        Due  to  the  decreasing  amount  of  eligible  debt                                                                    
     reimbursement being  paid by  the state,  the statutory                                                                    
     calculation for  the REAA  fund capitalization  is also                                                                    
     declining each year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:20:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen addressed slide 32, "Public Education":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Finance (FY23 Audited Financials - DEED)                                                                                   
       Every local government  contributed beyond the RLC in                                                                    
     FY24 = $240 million                                                                                                        
     18 of 33 provided more than 50 percent additional                                                                          
        Four have  RLC/FVD amounts  greater than  45 percent                                                                    
     Basic Need                                                                                                                 
       State  takes 75 percent  of Impact Aid to  reduce its                                                                    
     own  obligation  to meet  Basic  Need;  100 percent  in                                                                    
     REAAs                                                                                                                      
       Non-instructional functions = < 25 percent of costs                                                                      
       58 percent is operations and maintenance                                                                                 
        The Alaska  School District  Cost Study  hasn't been                                                                    
     updated since 2005                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:20:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen pointed to slide 33, "Capital Budget":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       Local CIP from FY20-25ish = $2,835,244,289                                                                               
       GOV proposed FY26 = $282 million                                                                                         
       FY23 GO and Rev Bond Debt = $195 million                                                                                 
       14 communities                                                                                                           
       Municipal Bond Bank = $1 billion                                                                                         
       New and refunding since 2005                                                                                             
       2020 and 2021  largest years (52!)                                                                                       
       Requests to AML FY26 = $48 million for heavy                                                                             
     equipment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:22:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   commented   that   his   district   had                                                                    
approximately 27  percent of  the debt  listed on  the slide                                                                    
columns. He  said that equated to  approximately $14,000 per                                                                    
resident. He  contended that  if Anchorage  too on  the same                                                                    
debt it would cost $4  billion. He lamented the magnitude of                                                                    
the debt load taken on by  his district. He stated that much                                                                    
of the debt was from energy costs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  felt that  an additional  source of  the debt                                                                    
was large dock infrastructure. He  said that a large portion                                                                    
of that was like a recent  railroad bill. He asked about the                                                                    
bond bank chart and  how Anchorage and Matanuska-Susitna fit                                                                    
into the picture.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  agreed to follow  up with the  committee and                                                                    
explained that  AML tracked  geo and  revenue bond  debt for                                                                    
all communities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:26:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Andreassen   addressed   slide   34,   "Infrastructure                                                                    
Investment":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       214 Total Applications                                                                                                   
       $3.6 billion                                                                                                             
       70 Successful                                                                                                            
       $1.3 billion brought to Alaska                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:27:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  addressed slide 35, "Planning  and Community                                                                    
Development                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Strategic Infrastructure Maintenance and Operations                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Community Planning and Prioritization                                                                                      
     Grant Development and Response                                                                                             
     Grant Award, Partnerships, and Match                                                                                       
     Procurement and Workforce                                                                                                  
     Project Management                                                                                                         
     Grant Reporting and Outcomes                                                                                               
     Maintenance and Operations                                                                                                 
     Asset Management and Sustainability                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:28:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen discussed slide 36, "Leaning Local  Member                                                                       
Priorities:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   1. State maintains an adequate level of services.                                                                            
   2. Increase State  funding  for municipal  public  safety                                                                    
     obligations (including police training, operations of                                                                      
     Community jails, and prosecutors and public defenders)                                                                     
   3. Cost-shifting of   State  expenses  and   programs  to                                                                    
     municipalities                                                                                                             
   4. Prompt payments  of  Community  Assistance  and  other                                                                    
     state payments or pass-throughs to municipalities                                                                          
   5. Increase  investment   in  school   construction   and                                                                    
     deferred maintenance (including by providing Base                                                                          
     Facilities Allocation)                                                                                                     
   6. Increase Community Assistance distribution and  tie to                                                                    
     inflation                                                                                                                  
   7. Increase and inflation-proof the BSA                                                                                      
   8. Oppose the transfer of maintenance responsibilities to                                                                    
     municipalities as the requirement for transportation                                                                       
     projects                                                                                                                   
   9. Reinstate the Municipal Matching Grant program to help                                                                    
     match or supplement local and federal funding for                                                                          
     water/sewer systems                                                                                                        
   10. Address opioid epidemic                                                                                                  
   11.   Increase   compliance   with    fisheries   bycatch                                                                    
   regulations                                                                                                                  
  12. State-funded water and wastewater operator subsidy                                                                        
  13. Sustainability of the Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                        
   14.  Increase  investment   in  training   and  workforce                                                                    
   development for residents                                                                                                    
   15.  Increase   capital   budget   to  address   deferred                                                                    
   maintenance (including through mechanisms such as general                                                                    
   obligation bonds)                                                                                                            
   16. Maintain the  authority of  local governments  to tax                                                                    
   the extraction or production of local resources                                                                              
   17. Transfer of State land to municipalities                                                                                 
   18. PERS/TRS: Return to a defined benefit plan as a                                                                          
   significant tool for recruitment and retention                                                                               
   19. Oppose new or expanding mandatory property tax                                                                           
   exemptions                                                                                                                   
  20. Clean-up and remediation of PFAS-contaminated sites                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  relayed  that  the  list  reflected  issues                                                                    
directly affecting local government.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:29:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   expressed  concern  for   the  secondary                                                                    
treatment  of  wastewater  and the  potentially  high  costs                                                                    
associated with  the problem. He  hoped for a  future update                                                                    
on the matter.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:30:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen thanked the committee  for the opportunity to                                                                    
present, and for their support of AML.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:31:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  remarked that budget cuts  at the national                                                                    
level would  directly and negatively  affect the  state, the                                                                    
breadth of which was yet unknown.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman stated that the  next meeting was scheduled                                                                    
for the following Monday at 9am.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:32:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:32 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
022025 2025 Condition of Communities - Final.pdf SFIN 2/20/2025 9:00:00 AM
022025 AML Follow Up CORRECTED Local Taxation in Alaska - ACoM.pdf SFIN 2/20/2025 9:00:00 AM
022025 AML Senate Finance Committee follow up.pdf SFIN 2/20/2025 9:00:00 AM