Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/18/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:39 AM Presentation: Cases, Judgements, and Settlements – Department of Law
09:36:22 AM Fy 26 Budget Overview: University of Alaska – Senate Finance Subcommittee of Whole
10:30:21 AM Adjourn
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 18, 2025                                                                                          
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel; Cori  Mills, Deputy Attorney General,                                                                    
Civil Division, Department of  Law; Chad Hutchison, Director                                                                    
of State Relations, University of Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Pat   Pitney,  President,   University  of   Alaska;  Alesia                                                                    
Kruckenberg, Director of Planning  and Budget, University of                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:   CASES,   JUDGEMENTS,   and   SETTLEMENTS                                                                        
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
FY  26  BUDGET  OVERVIEW:  UNIVERSITY  OF  ALASKA     SENATE                                                                    
FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE OF WHOLE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  discussed  the agenda.  He  relayed  that                                                                    
after  a  presentation  from  the  Department  of  Law,  the                                                                    
committee  would  transition to  have  the  chairman of  the                                                                    
Senate Finance Budget Subcommittee  for the University chair                                                                    
the remainder of the meeting.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:   CASES,   JUDGEMENTS,  and   SETTLEMENTS                                                                      
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:02:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CORI  MILLS,   DEPUTY  ATTORNEY  GENERAL,   CIVIL  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  LAW, introduced herself and  relayed that the                                                                    
Administrative  Services Director  was available  to address                                                                    
questions about numbers. She would  offer information on the                                                                    
department's  $4   million  supplemental  request   for  the                                                                    
Jeremiah  M./ABC case,  current judgements  and settlements,                                                                    
and statehood defense multi-year funding.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Mills  discussed   a  presentation   entitled  "Alaska                                                                    
Department of Law    SUPPLEMENTALS, JUDGMENTS & SETTLEMENTS,                                                                    
STATEHOOD DEFENSE MULTI-YEAR FUNDING" (copy on file).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  reviewed slide 2,  "Supplemental Request  - J.M.,                                                                    
et al. v. Kovol, et al.":                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     May  2022: Filed  in the  United States  District Court                                                                    
     for the District of Alaska                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Plaintiffs: 14 children  who are or were  in custody of                                                                    
     the  Office of  Children's Services,  represented by  A                                                                    
     Better  Childhood (ABC),  a  New  York City  non-profit                                                                    
    advocacy organization and local counsel in Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Suit is an "institutional"  or "structural" reform case                                                                    
     asking the court to direct  the State on how much money                                                                    
     must be spent on child  welfare, exactly how that money                                                                    
     should  be  used,  and   other  specific  measures.  If                                                                    
     successful,  plaintiffs will  likely ask  the court  to                                                                    
     award a third-party monitor  to oversee compliance with                                                                    
     any injunction (to be paid by the State).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     A vigorous defense  by the State will  help protect the                                                                    
     legislature's  role  to  appropriate  funds  and  shape                                                                    
     child  welfare through  legislation and  appropriations                                                                    
     and reduce unnecessary oversight.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills relayed that there  were many states that had been                                                                    
sued  by the  A Better  Childhood (ABC)  group, and  she had                                                                    
background   she  could   provide.  She   shared  that   the                                                                    
plaintiffs were  seeking a class certification,  and seeking                                                                    
recompense   via  damages.   The  plaintiffs   were  seeking                                                                    
institutional or structural reform.  In the state of Oregon,                                                                    
the   organization  had   been  awarded   $10  million   for                                                                    
attorneys' fees.  She noted that  about a third to  one half                                                                    
of states had  been sued by the ABC  organization or another                                                                    
organization  starting  a  decade previously.  Some  of  the                                                                    
states had  been in consent  decrees for a number  of years.                                                                    
She  explained that  there was  background available  to see                                                                    
what had  transpired in  the cases,  and the  department had                                                                    
been able  to communicate with other  states for information                                                                    
on the cases.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills described that the  department had filed an amicus                                                                    
brief in support of state  of California, which was fighting                                                                    
a similar  lawsuit. The department  had received  advice not                                                                    
to  settle.  She  relayed  that  the  settlement  agreements                                                                    
caused the  court to be  more involved in the  child welfare                                                                    
system.  She  thought  the  state of  Texas  had  spent  $40                                                                    
million  for   a  court  monitor  after   seven  years.  The                                                                    
department was  fighting the  case. She  noted that  a trial                                                                    
had  been  scheduled  for  May.  There  had  been  a  status                                                                    
conference the  previous week and the  trial was rescheduled                                                                    
for August. She  believed that the trial would  be quick and                                                                    
the department  would be  able to  cut off  discovery, which                                                                    
was one of the most expensive pieces.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:07:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  continued to discuss  slide 2 and noted  that the                                                                    
request  was   for  $4  million.   She  recalled   that  the                                                                    
legislature had  appropriated $1  million to  the Department                                                                    
of Family  and Community Services  (DFCS) which went  to the                                                                    
Department  of  Law to  pay  for  reviewing over  4  million                                                                    
documents in  discovery. She thought  discovery had  cost $2                                                                    
million  thus  far.  She relayed  that  the  department  had                                                                    
considered  potential pre-trial,  trial,  and appeal  costs,                                                                    
and  the $4  million  was a  total figure  to  get the  case                                                                    
through a final adjudication  in appellate court. The reason                                                                    
for the supplemental  was due to already being  in a deficit                                                                    
for  the  year.  The  request was  to  complete  the  entire                                                                    
process in three years.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills advanced to slide 3, "Judgments and Settlements":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sargent v. DOLWD - $50.0 (attorney's fees)                                                                                 
     SEACC v. DNR - $68.6 (attorney's fees)                                                                                     
     Donkel v. DNR - $12.2 (attorney's fees)                                                                                    
     Lane v. DFCS                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Note: $ in thousands                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills  explained that  within  the  budget every  year,                                                                    
there was a  provision that paid for  various judgements and                                                                    
settlements   that    resulted   from    pre-litigation   or                                                                    
litigation. The  cases listed were those  that the operating                                                                    
budget  was unable  to  cover. The  cases  came through  the                                                                    
Department of Law, which did the litigation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills addressed  the first  three cases  on the  slide,                                                                    
which were  all judgements for  attorney fees to be  paid to                                                                    
the  prevailing  party.  She relayed  that  the  first  case                                                                    
listed was related to unemployment.  She addressed the SEACC                                                                    
v.   DNR  case,   which   involved   the  Southeast   Alaska                                                                    
Conservation  Council  (SEACC).  The  case had  to  do  with                                                                    
public  notice  and had  gone  all  the  way to  the  Alaska                                                                    
Supreme  Court.  The  case  had pertained  to  when  a  land                                                                    
conveyance  amounted  to a  disposal  of  interest in  state                                                                    
land. The  court had determined  that the transaction  was a                                                                    
land disposal,  which meant that  certain public  notice was                                                                    
required. The prevailing party was  SEACC, which was awarded                                                                    
around $68,000 in attorney's fees.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills discussed Donkel v. DNR,  which had to do with the                                                                    
release of certain well log  information, and disputed which                                                                    
information had  to be disclosed. The  court determined that                                                                    
the information  had to be  disclosed, and the state  had to                                                                    
pay Rule 82 fees. The fees  thus far were $12,000. There was                                                                    
an appeal  as to whether  the state had  to pay more  of the                                                                    
attorney fees.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills referenced slide 4,  "Lane v. State, Dep't. Family                                                                    
& Comm. Servs., OCS":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Background:                                                                                                                
     Plaintiff prevailed  in a jury trial  against the State                                                                    
     on  claims  of  wrongful constructive  termination  and                                                                    
     retaliation, in  violation of the  Alaska Whistleblower                                                                    
     Act  and   was  awarded   $2,580.6  in   damages,  plus                                                                    
     interest.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     On appeal, the Alaska  Supreme Court generally affirmed                                                                    
     the  jury's awards,  but vacated  for  past and  future                                                                    
     emotional  distress and/or  loss of  enjoyment of  life                                                                    
     and ordered  a new jury trial  to determine noneconomic                                                                    
     damages.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  parties settled  in mediation  for $1,800.0,  with                                                                    
     interest  accruing from  March 2,  2020, and  $699.0 in                                                                    
     Workers' Compensation  benefits; $2,616.1 total  due to                                                                    
     plaintiff.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Re-trial exposure was at least  $550.0 with no cap; the                                                                    
     Workers' Compensation exposure was  as much as $3,800.0                                                                    
     plus fees and costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Mills  summarized   that   the  fourth   case  was   a                                                                    
constructive termination  case and  had to do  with wrongful                                                                    
termination and retaliation  with a worker in  the Office of                                                                    
Children's  Services (OCS).  The employee  suffered physical                                                                    
and  mental  injury.  A  jury had  awarded  damages  to  the                                                                    
employee and found the state  had done wrongful termination.                                                                    
The  court had  not  calculated the  damages correctly.  The                                                                    
Alaska Supreme Court  had affirmed the finding  but sent the                                                                    
case back down. The state  settled the issue and damages and                                                                    
had been  able to mediate  rather than going back  to trial.                                                                    
The reason for the amount was  that the funds had to go back                                                                    
to 2020 and included interest.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:16:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  Ms.  Mills  to provide  information                                                                    
pertaining to all  civil cases for the  previous five years,                                                                    
including  what had  been settled  and what  cases had  been                                                                    
won.  He wanted  to  evaluate how  the  department had  been                                                                    
performing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills  was  happy  to   provide  the  information.  She                                                                    
explained  that department  data  was  not filtered  through                                                                    
settlement  or prevailing  cases.  She thought  it might  be                                                                    
difficult to get granular information.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  thought  the  people of  Alaska  and  the                                                                    
legislature  needed to  evaluate how  the Department  of Law                                                                    
had been  performing on cases  such as described as  well as                                                                    
others. He thought the  performance evaluation was important                                                                    
considering the state's constrained budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  thought Co-Chair  Hoffman's reasoning  was valid.                                                                    
She noted that every  year the department shared information                                                                    
on what  was collected  in cases.  She estimated  that there                                                                    
were  about 5,000  active  cases within  a  given year.  She                                                                    
thought the activity would be  worthwhile to provide greater                                                                    
understanding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  asked  about  the  baseline  amount  in  the                                                                    
department's budget for judgements and settlements.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills  relayed  that  the department  did  not  have  a                                                                    
baseline.  If  the department  did  not  have funds  to  pay                                                                    
judgements  and  settlements,  the  funds  might  come  from                                                                    
another department.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked  if the cases referenced  only cases for                                                                    
which the department did not have the funding.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills answered affirmatively.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  discussed slide 5,  "SUCCESSES IN  FEDERAL ISSUES                                                                    
LITIGATION                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Maintained  the Incidental Take Regulation  for Polar                                                                    
     Bears, ensuring  no disruption to  resource development                                                                    
     on the North Slope                                                                                                         
     •  Kept commercial  Chinook fishing  open in  Southeast                                                                    
     Alaska  while  the  National Marine  Fisheries  Service                                                                    
     completes a new biological opinion                                                                                         
     •  Received  favorable  decision overturning  the  vast                                                                    
     critical habitat  designation for ice seals  that would                                                                    
     hinder resource development (On appeal)                                                                                    
     • Stopped  Federal Highway Administration  from forcing                                                                    
     the  state  Department  of  Transportation  to  develop                                                                    
     Greenhouse Gas  performance measures  covering vehicles                                                                    
     on state highways (On appeal)                                                                                              
     •  Received  recognition  of Alaska's  ownership  of  a                                                                    
     majority of  Fortymile River (Remainder going  to trial                                                                    
     in March)                                                                                                                  
     • Secured  access on trails  for recreation  and mining                                                                    
     around Chicken, Alaska (RS 2477)                                                                                           
     • Joined with many others  to ensure the Willow project                                                                    
     could continue (On appeal)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  noted that a  couple of  cases on the  slide were                                                                    
still on appeal. She discussed  updates to the status of the                                                                    
cases.  She  noted that  the  Willow  Project was  still  on                                                                    
appeal,  and  in  the  meantime  it  was  able  to  continue                                                                    
working.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:21:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills showed  slide  6,  "MULTI-YEAR STATEHOOD  DEFENSE                                                                    
APPROPRIATIONS,"  which showed  a bar  graph depicting  four                                                                    
years of  the statehood defense appropriations.  She relayed                                                                    
that  there had  been three  main appropriations,  one which                                                                    
was split  into two buckets. The  first was in FY  21 for $4                                                                    
million, which had  been spent. The $2 million  FY 23 amount                                                                    
that would have gone through  the current year had also been                                                                    
spent. She noted that the  department had $500,000 which had                                                                    
been designed for Tongass  National Forest litigation, which                                                                    
had gone  more slowly  than anticipated. The  department had                                                                    
spent  about  $68,000 thus  far.  She  cited that  the  last                                                                    
appropriation  for FY  24  to  FY 26  was  $5 million,  $1.7                                                                    
million of which had been expended.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills spoke  to slide  7,  "REQUESTING CONTINUATION  OF                                                                    
TEMPORARY INCREMENT                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Last session, the Legislature approved a $500.0                                                                            
     temporary increment for FY2025, intending to add the                                                                       
     same increment for three years                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This increment would total $1,500.0 over three years                                                                       
     (down from the $6,000.0 that was previously requested)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     For FY2026, request to continue with the Legislature's                                                                     
     intent for $500.0                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills  addressed the  temporary  increment  for FY  25,                                                                    
which  would  lapse  at  the  end  of  the  year.  With  the                                                                    
requested continuation and remaining  funds, she thought the                                                                    
department would be able to get through FY 26.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked if  there was  an operating  amount for                                                                    
statehood defense in FY 24.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills went back  to slide 6 and noted that  in FY 24 the                                                                    
department only had a multi-year  appropriation, and then in                                                                    
FY 25  it received  $500,000 within the  operating temporary                                                                    
increment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl pondered the spending.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills answered affirmatively.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills showed slide 8, "Questions":                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Cori Mills                                                                                                                 
     Deputy Attorney General                                                                                                    
     Civil Division                                                                                                             
     (907) 465-3600                                                                                                             
     [email protected]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  asked if  Ms. Mills  saw any  difference in                                                                    
needs considering the change in federal administration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  appreciated the question. She  thought more would                                                                    
become  apparent  in the  following  six  months as  federal                                                                    
agencies were  staffed. She relayed that  the department was                                                                    
seeing a  lot of  stays and  continuances. She  relayed that                                                                    
the  department's  goals  and  guiding  principles  included                                                                    
getting finality through court decisions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills cited that there  were over 80 cases involving the                                                                    
federal  government  on  some   sort  of  jurisdictional  or                                                                    
federal  authority issues.  The state  was aligned  with the                                                                    
federal government on  some of the cases, and  some not. Not                                                                    
all   the   cases   were    funded   with   the   multi-year                                                                    
appropriation, which was intended  to fund the increase. She                                                                    
anticipated an  increase in cases.  She thought  there might                                                                    
be a lesser volume of cases in two years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman relayed  that people came to  him and asked                                                                    
how the department  decided on what cases to  take. He noted                                                                    
that  85  percent of  people  in  his district  were  Alaska                                                                    
Native, and had  concerns about the direction  the state was                                                                    
taking that directly affected their lives.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills explained that in  cases where the state was sued,                                                                    
the state  was in a position  to defend or settle.  When the                                                                    
cases  involved  a  statute, the  department  leaned  toward                                                                    
defending  the statute.  She noted  that the  department was                                                                    
always  evaluating   settlements  and  looking   at  whether                                                                    
mediation  was  the  best course.  She  discussed  proactive                                                                    
cases, which  were much fewer. Most  proactive lawsuits were                                                                    
child-in-need-of-aid   or  mental   commitment  cases.   She                                                                    
mentioned  state sovereignty  and jurisdiction  cases, which                                                                    
involved policy choices. She  emphasized that the department                                                                    
followed  the policy  direction of  the administration.  She                                                                    
mentioned the issue of resources.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman recalled  that 30  years previously  there                                                                    
had   been  issues   with  the   state  recognizing   tribal                                                                    
sovereignty. She asked where the  state stood with regard to                                                                    
the state recognizing tribal sovereignty.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills stressed  that case  law had  made it  clear that                                                                    
tribes  were sovereign.  She knew  there had  been questions                                                                    
previously  and thought  the  department  had withdrawn  the                                                                    
Attorney General's opinion on  the subject. She pondered the                                                                    
bounds  of sovereignty.  She mentioned  special laws  in the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  what dialogue  the state  had taken                                                                    
with the  tribes to clarify  the boundaries  of sovereignty.                                                                    
He asked whether it was an  ongoing process or if the blurry                                                                    
lines were to be settled in court.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  thought that currently  the issue  was endeavored                                                                    
to be  settled outside  of court. She  thought the  area had                                                                    
been lacking.  She recounted that  two years  previously the                                                                    
legislature had  approved the addition of  a tribal attorney                                                                    
for  the  civil division  in  the  department. The  criminal                                                                    
division now had  one as well. She thoguht  strides had been                                                                    
made through  dialogue regarding finding common  ground. She                                                                    
asserted  that  there  would continue  to  be  disputes  and                                                                    
pondered  how   to  limit  disputes.  She   noted  that  the                                                                    
department website had a page devoted to tribal relations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked if there  was current litigation with                                                                    
tribes related to sovereignty boundaries.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  answered "yes."  She noted  that the  major cases                                                                    
involved suits  against the federal government  and involved                                                                    
tribal interest. She mentioned land  issues in Juneau and an                                                                    
issue in Eklutna.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  if  the  Eklutna  case  was  about                                                                    
gaming.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills relayed  that  the Eklutna  case  was about  land                                                                    
designation and whether it was "Indian Country."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  acknowledged that  the matter  was complex                                                                    
and  relayed  he  had  met  with some  of  the  members.  He                                                                    
pondered how a  tribe could have a license  from the federal                                                                    
government  and   expressed  the  desire  to   have  further                                                                    
conversations with the department on the topic.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman handed the gavel to Senator Kiehl.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:35:04 AM                                                                                                                    
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9:36:17 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^FY  26  BUDGET  OVERVIEW:  UNIVERSITY OF  ALASKA     SENATE                                                                  
FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE OF WHOLE                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:36:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl discussed the agenda.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:37:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HUTCHISON,  DIRECTOR OF STATE RELATIONS,  UNIVERSITY OF                                                                    
ALASKA, introduced  himself and listed University  of Alaska                                                                    
(UA) staff available online.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:37:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT   PITNEY,   PRESIDENT,   UNIVERSITY   OF   ALASKA   (via                                                                    
teleconference),    discussed   a    presentation   entitled                                                                    
"University of Alaska  Empower Alaska" (copy on file).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  looked  at  slide   2,  "University  of  Alaska                                                                    
Alaska's System of Higher Education":                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Empower Alaska                                                                                                             
     Pillars                                                                                                                    
     • Financially Responsible and Future-Focused                                                                               
     • State & Arctic Leadership                                                                                                
     • Quality Reputation                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     University/System Roles                                                                                                    
     • System Office  Advancing Post-secondary                                                                                  
     Education by Driving Value to the Universities.                                                                            
    Corporate structure required by State Constitution                                                                          
     • UAA  Alaska's Comprehensive, Workforce Emphasis,                                                                         
     Health University: A University of                                                                                         
     Distinction, Transforming Lives and Communities.                                                                           
     • UAF  Alaska's Research and Arctic University:                                                                            
     Creating Excellence Through Transformative                                                                                 
     Experiences.                                                                                                               
     • UAS  Alaska's Experiential Learning University:                                                                          
     Impacting the World by Offering an Unparalleled                                                                            
     Education Rooted in the Natural and Cultural                                                                               
     Richness of Southeast Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney mentioned the three  pillars listed at the top of                                                                    
the slide  and discussed six strategic  priorities including                                                                    
achieving  tier 2  research  level,  a deferred  maintenance                                                                    
strategy, and  elevating UA's  position as  a leader  in the                                                                    
higher education space. The  strategic priorities guided the                                                                    
budget request.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:40:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney referenced slide  4, "Enrollment Highlights.  She                                                                    
noted that  enrollment continued to increase.  She discussed                                                                    
reclassification of  courses at  UAA and  noted that  it had                                                                    
impacted about  1,500 students in reporting.  She noted that                                                                    
if  the  data  was  normalized for  the  change,  it  showed                                                                    
enrollment  up  in  the  range  of  5  percent.  First  time                                                                    
freshmen  numbers  continued  to  be in  double  digits  and                                                                    
overall enrollment continued to grow modestly.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  emphasized one of  the main budget  requests was                                                                    
recruitment  and retention  and  increasing enrollment.  She                                                                    
noted that more than  anything, UA's financial stability was                                                                    
based  on  a  stronger  student body.  She  cited  continued                                                                    
increases in dual enrollment across  the system. She relayed                                                                    
that  retention was  at an  all  time high.  She noted  that                                                                    
retention for Alaska  Performance Scholarship (APS) students                                                                    
was nearly 90 percent from  freshman to sophomore year, with                                                                    
close  to a  60  percent graduation  rate.  She thanked  the                                                                    
members  for support  for the  Washington, Wyoming,  Alaska,                                                                    
Montana,  and  Idaho (WWAMI)  Program,  and  noted that  the                                                                    
program  was growing  from  20  to 30  students  due to  the                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:44:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney turned to slide 5, "FY26 Budget Request                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
    FY26 Operating Budget State funding request $34.5M                                                                          
     • Compensation and other operating costs $24.1M                                                                            
     • Programs to support Recruitment, Retention &                                                                             
   Graduation $5M; Athletics $5M; Economic Growth $0.4M                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     FY26 Capital Budget                                                                                                        
     • Deferred Maintenance & Modernization-$60M (FY26) or                                                                      
     $35M annually                                                                                                              
    • Priority capital requests $24.6M ($144.4M total)                                                                          
     • Capital project receipt authority for externally                                                                         
     leveraged funds $59M                                                                                                       
     • Research programs and other Governor priorities $43M                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney explained  that for  the compensation  and other                                                                    
fixed  costs,  all but  about  $100,000  of the  amount  was                                                                    
included  in  the  governor's   budget.  She  discussed  the                                                                    
economic  growth  funding  for  agriculture  and  noted  the                                                                    
program support  was not included  in the  governor's budget                                                                    
currently. She noted that a  bill had been introduced in the                                                                    
House  that  proposed  to  provide  $35  million  in  annual                                                                    
funding into the Major Maintenance  Fund for UA. She thought                                                                    
the consistency  of the funds  would allow for  focusing the                                                                    
capital budget  on items unrelated to  deferred maintenance.                                                                    
She noted  that for  the 20  to 30 years  that she  had been                                                                    
involved in  the UA budget, deferred  maintenance was always                                                                    
at the  top of  the list. She  emphasized the  importance of                                                                    
consistency of funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney recalled  that the last time UA  had received $35                                                                    
million  on  an  annual  basis  was  in  the  2010  to  2015                                                                    
timeframe,  at which  time  UA  had been  able  to keep  the                                                                    
deferred maintenance  backlog from  growing. She  noted that                                                                    
as  debt service  declined the  funds would  be reallocated.                                                                    
She mentioned  the goal  of having the  annual amount  up to                                                                    
$60 million  per year, which  was the depreciation  level of                                                                    
UA's  facilities on  an annual  basis. Deferred  maintenance                                                                    
was still a top priority in the capital budget.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:48:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  mentioned an opportunity for  a National Science                                                                    
Foundation (NSF)  grant for dock improvements,  which was an                                                                    
$18  million request.  She  discussed  funding requests  for                                                                    
classrooms and readers archives.  She discussed funding from                                                                    
the previous funding from the  legislature the previous year                                                                    
for  R1 research  status,  which was  vetoed  down to  $12.5                                                                    
million.  There  was currently  $5  million  in the  capital                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  addressed questions she had  received in advance                                                                    
related to federal turbulence and  what impact it might have                                                                    
on UA.  She relayed that  the current executive  orders were                                                                    
disruptive  and  created  uncertainty. She  considered  that                                                                    
each of the orders had been  put on hold through the courts.                                                                    
She referenced  a couple  of days  when funding  was paused.                                                                    
Beyond being disruptive, she did  not see tremendous impact.                                                                    
She mentioned  the program Girls  on Ice to  encourage girls                                                                    
into science programs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney summarized that for  the most part, UA's research                                                                    
agenda  was aligned  with  the state  and  with the  federal                                                                    
administration. She  thought there  were about  1,500 grants                                                                    
and contracts  with about 5  percent that might be  at risk.                                                                    
She  pondered how  the federal  government would  prioritize                                                                    
continued research. She  commented on the small  size of UA.                                                                    
She felt  comfortable that  UA's research  portfolio aligned                                                                    
quite  well  with  the  federal  agenda,  and  that  UA  was                                                                    
positioned well.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:55:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  knew  there  were   some  members  that  had                                                                    
expressed concern about coordination  given them most recent                                                                    
guidance  from the  United  States  Department of  Education                                                                    
with  the  Alaska  Native Science  and  Engineering  Program                                                                    
(ANSEP). He  was particularly concerned about  the Preparing                                                                    
Indigenous  Teachers  &  Administrators for  Alaska  Schools                                                                    
(PITAAS) Program. He asked Ms.  Pitney to keep the committee                                                                    
up to date on the issue.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:56:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALESIA  KRUCKENBERG,   DIRECTOR  OF  PLANNING   AND  BUDGET,                                                                    
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA  (via teleconference), considered slide                                                                    
6, "FY26  Fiscal Summary-BOR vs  Gov," which showed  a table                                                                    
of the  UA Board of  Regents' budget next to  the governor's                                                                    
proposed   budget.  She   highlighted  that   most  of   the                                                                    
compensation  and   fixed  costs   were  supported   in  the                                                                    
governor's  budget. She  expressed  concern  about the  $4.9                                                                    
million in  one-time funding and  UA receipt  authority that                                                                    
was needed  to generate  increased enrollment  envisioned by                                                                    
the programs. She mentioned $5 million for athletics.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  mentioned   that  the  agriculture  landfill                                                                    
discharge request for $400,000 was included.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kruckenberg mentioned  the  budget  adjustments at  the                                                                    
bottom of  the slide, which  was trueing up and  moving some                                                                    
UA  budget authority.  She mentioned  moving UA  receipts at                                                                    
the direction of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl relayed  that the committee was  happy to work                                                                    
with UA to  true up the books.  He asked for an  idea of how                                                                    
much additional receipt authority UA was requesting.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kruckenberg estimated  that  there was  a five  percent                                                                    
buffer. She noted  that UA had done  its first comprehensive                                                                    
financial  review  with the  board  recently  and was  still                                                                    
working   through   the   details.  She   noted   that   the                                                                    
supplemental budget request was a  little higher than the FY                                                                    
26 request. There  was always a concern that  the budget was                                                                    
inflated,  and  UA  was  working  to  get  it  as  close  as                                                                    
possible. She offered to provide  more specific numbers at a                                                                    
later time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:00:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kruckenberg displayed  slide 7,  "Fiscal Summary-Change                                                                    
in Revenue,"  which showed a  table. She  directed attention                                                                    
to the far  right of the table, which  showed projections of                                                                    
how  UA  expected  to  increase  its  earned  revenues.  She                                                                    
thought  there would  be  $24 million  in  various types  of                                                                    
earned revenue  which would help cover  the compensation and                                                                    
fixed cost  increases. The  request for  state appropriation                                                                    
versus earned revenue was about  50/50. She highlighted that                                                                    
there was an estimate that  tuition and fee revenue would be                                                                    
up  by   $9  million  from  rate   increase  and  enrollment                                                                    
increases.  The $2  million in  other  restricted funds  was                                                                    
overhead UA  could earn on  federal grants. She  thought the                                                                    
figure would have to be monitored closely.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She pointed  out $7 million  built in for  federal receipts,                                                                    
which  was   an  increase  of   roughly  3.5   percent.  She                                                                    
highlighted $6  million in designated and  restricted funds,                                                                    
that  was  mostly  auxiliary.  She  mentioned  a  post-Covid                                                                    
deficit  that had  to be  trued up.  The numbers  were being                                                                    
monitored closely and those in  serious deficit had plans to                                                                    
discuss with the board.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kruckenberg  highlighted slide 8,  "Fiscal Summary-State                                                                    
Reports," which  showed a table  including the FY 25  and FY                                                                    
26 budgets actuals from FY 22  through FY 24. She cited that                                                                    
total revenue  shown on the  bottom was $944  million, while                                                                    
year-end projections  left a delta  of roughly  $106 million                                                                    
that UA needed  but did not have. She  directed attention to                                                                    
the $124  million listed  in "other" and  made note  that if                                                                    
receipt authority was  not in the right place,  it could not                                                                    
be spent.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:04:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison looked at slide 9, "FY26 Operating Budget":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Compensation $20.1M ($27.5M total)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    Salaries and Benefits Increases $5.9M ($9.7M total)                                                                         
     • Wage increase for employee groups as required by                                                                         
     collective bargaining agreements                                                                                           
     • Wage increase (2.75%) for non-union staff                                                                                
     • UA and UNAC reached a tentative agreement on a new                                                                       
     three-year contract.                                                                                                       
          • A funding request of $2.3M UGF ($3.2M total)                                                                        
          has been submitted to OMB                                                                                             
     • UNAD contract expires in FY25 and no increase has                                                                        
     yet been negotiated for FY26                                                                                               
          • Once a tentative agreement has been reached                                                                         
          with a union, a funding request will be made                                                                          
          through the appropriate legislative process                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Health Care Increases $14.2M ($17.8M total)                                                                                
     • In FY26, the university's medical (including dental                                                                      
     and vision) plan is expecting an increase in premium                                                                       
     costs ($7M) and under-recovery from FY24 ($10.8M)                                                                          
     • Cost increases will be included in the FY26 staff                                                                        
     benefit rate charged to departments                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison discussed  the contract  reached with  United                                                                    
Academics  (UNAC).  He  mentioned   the  upcoming  Board  of                                                                    
Regents  meeting,  at  which time  the  contracts  would  be                                                                    
discussed.  He affirmed  that he  would submit  an amendment                                                                    
once the  agreement had  been made  with United  Academics -                                                                    
Adjuncts  (UNAD).  He  noted  that  a  big  portion  of  the                                                                    
compensation increase  was due  to healthcare  increases. He                                                                    
made note of insurance increases.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:08:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison addressed  slide 10,  "FY26 Operating  Budget                                                                    
(cont.)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Fixed Cost Increases                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Cyber  Security &  Information Technology  $825K ($2.7M                                                                    
     total)                                                                                                                     
     This   request  will   help  fund,   centrally  managed                                                                    
     computing   contracts   for   hardware   and   software                                                                    
     maintenance;  site   licensing;  campus   software  and                                                                    
     contract licensing  renewals; personnel  cost increases                                                                    
     to recruit  and retain  IT professionals;  and hardware                                                                    
     updates  and  training  across the  system  to  promote                                                                    
     network security.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Facilities Maintenance &  Break/Fix Operating Costs $2M                                                                    
     ($6M total)                                                                                                                
     Facilities   maintenance   funding  is   necessary   to                                                                    
     preserve capital assets critical to UA's mission.                                                                          
     Several years of reduced  operating budgets and minimal                                                                    
     capital  funds  have  increased the  ongoing  risk  and                                                                    
     evidence  of costly  and disruptive  building failures.                                                                    
     Funding constraints have put  additional strain on UA's                                                                    
     operating  budget  to  fund  preventative  and  current                                                                    
     facility maintenance needs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Utilities Cost Increases $1.2M ($2.4M total)                                                                               
     This  request covers  the projected  FY26 utility  cost                                                                    
     increases  at  UAA  and  UAF.  Cost  increases  include                                                                    
     utility expenses  such as electrical, fuel,  water, and                                                                    
     sewer; and commodity costs for utility inputs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  referenced  a   UA  publication  related  to                                                                    
operating and  capital budget  requests known  as "Redbook,"                                                                    
which had been  distributed to members and  was available on                                                                    
the UA website. He  discussed cybersecurity and IT requests,                                                                    
which included continual software  and hardware upgrades and                                                                    
maintenance.   He  noted   that  the   figures  shown   were                                                                    
predominantly funded  in the governor's proposed  budget. He                                                                    
mentioned  that UA  was spending  approximately $30  million                                                                    
annually   on   preventative   maintenance.   He   addressed                                                                    
utilities  cost increases  and noted  that Chugach  Electric                                                                    
had filed  for a rate  increase. He  noted that much  of the                                                                    
increases had  to do with  rural campuses. The  governor had                                                                    
funded the amount in his proposed budget.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl asked  about  electrical  bills in  Southeast                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison   relayed  that  the  University   of  Alaska                                                                    
Southeast  (UAS) electrical  bills were  significantly lower                                                                    
than in other areas of the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:11:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison advanced to slide 11, "Program Requests":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Recruitment, Retention &  Graduation Support $5M ($9.9M                                                                    
     total)                                                                                                                     
     Requests  will align  with  recommendations from  EAB's                                                                    
     report.                                                                                                                    
     • Marketing, Recruitment, Scholarships                                                                                     
     • Advising and Enrollment Management                                                                                       
     • Student Enrollment Services                                                                                              
     •   High  Demand   Program  Expansion   and  Technology                                                                    
     Enhancement                                                                                                                
     • Campus Safety                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Athletics $5M ($8M total)                                                                                                  
     Athletics initiative has  community champions and would                                                                    
     provide reputational benefits  to support future fiscal                                                                    
     stability.  This  request   anticipates  $3M  of  other                                                                    
     funding   from  UAA   ($2M)  and   UAF  ($1M)   through                                                                    
     fundraising or internal reallocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Economic Growth for Alaska $375K ($975K total)                                                                             
     Ensure  Alaska's  resilience  through food  security  &                                                                    
     research field safety and regulatory oversight.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  relayed that  the  BOR  was very  passionate                                                                    
about  the program  requests listed  on the  slide. He  made                                                                    
note of  a system-wide  1.1 percent  gain in  enrollment. He                                                                    
mentioned   declining  enrollment   in  K-12   education.  A                                                                    
committee  completed a  review and  report which  would make                                                                    
recommendations  related  to   recruitment,  retention,  and                                                                    
graduation support.  He mentioned  recommendations including                                                                    
multi-model marketing, common data  warehousing, and a pilot                                                                    
program for  tuition matching. He relayed  that the governor                                                                    
had talked to  the president about boosting  the working age                                                                    
popoulation  in  the  state,  which  could  result  in  more                                                                    
recruitment efforts. He mentioned  an "enrollment funnel" at                                                                    
UAF that had been successful.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:16:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison  continued to address  slide 11.  He mentioned                                                                    
that   UAS  was   considering  two   positions  to   bolster                                                                    
recruitment  in   targeted  areas.   He  mentioned   a  dual                                                                    
enrollment coordinator  that would be in  Juneau and working                                                                    
with all campuses in Southeast.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison  discussed athletics  as listed on  the slide.                                                                    
He  stressed that  athletics was  related  to marketing  and                                                                    
enrollment. He  mentioned past cuts  to athletics,  which he                                                                    
thought were still in the  process of recovery. He mentioned                                                                    
hockey,  gymnastics, and  skiing  at UAA;  and expansion  to                                                                    
Division 1  in hockey at  UAF. He mentioned that  there were                                                                    
many constituents passionate about athletics.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl thought  he  had missed  the  number for  the                                                                    
third university for athletics at UA.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison relayed that there  were only two universities                                                                    
in the athletics budget request.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  discussed  the economic  growth  for  Alaska                                                                    
category listed  on slide 11.  He described  diverting waste                                                                    
stream  landfills for  soil amendments  for $200,000,  which                                                                    
would  be used  to  help bolster  food security.  Wastewater                                                                    
from landfills  would be used for  fertilizer. The remainder                                                                    
of the total request would  be for research field safety. He                                                                    
mentioned  that much  research  was  completed in  hazardous                                                                    
remote zones  such as volcanoes.  The software  update would                                                                    
provide updated technology for operating in the field.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:21:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cronk discussed athletics and  relayed that he was a                                                                    
firm believer  in being  the best. He  relayed that  he went                                                                    
through  the athletics  system and  graduated  from UAF.  He                                                                    
mentioned  recruiting  Alaska  kids  and  competing  at  the                                                                    
national  level. He  discussed  UAF  basketball and  thought                                                                    
there  were only  five scholarships.  He thought  there were                                                                    
many  urban  and  rural  kids  that could  be  part  of  the                                                                    
program, but  there was a  lack of time for  development. He                                                                    
supported bringing  more Alaska students to  the program and                                                                    
thought it should  be funded. He thought the  model had been                                                                    
proven but the system had moved away from it.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Kiehl  asked   about  recruitment   and  retention                                                                    
support,  and investments  in recruiting  out  of state  and                                                                    
internationally.  He  asked  Mr. Hutchison  to  provide  the                                                                    
committee with  more information on  how the funds  would be                                                                    
split.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  agreed to  provide  the  committee with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison  looked at slide 12,  "Recruitment, Retention,                                                                    
Graduation (EAB)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Jan 28th UA Board  of Regents (BOR) received a report                                                                    
     with recommendations from consultant EAB                                                                                   
     •  Feb  6th  BOR   Ad  Hoc  Committee  on  Recruitment,                                                                    
     Retention,   and    Graduation   met    to   prioritize                                                                    
     recommendations                                                                                                            
     • Feb 13th UA BOR  Ad Hoc Committee met and recommended                                                                    
     the  BOR  adopt  the  recommendations,  which  included                                                                    
     developing a Systemwide Attainment Framework                                                                               
     (SAF) for recruitment, retention, and graduation                                                                           
          • Included developing metrics, targets, and a                                                                         
          dashboard    to   measure    SAF   progress    and                                                                    
          jumpstarting some initiatives.                                                                                        
     •  BOR  budget  request  includes $5M  to  support  the                                                                    
     recruitment, retention and graduation efforts                                                                              
          • Marketing, Recruitment, Scholarships                                                                                
          • Advising and Enrollment Management                                                                                  
          • Student Enrollment Services                                                                                         
          • High Demand Program Expansion and Technology                                                                        
          Enhancement                                                                                                           
            Campus Safety                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:23:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hutchison  showed  slide  13,  "Legislative  Discussion                                                                    
Points                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •  What   is  the   long-term  solution  to   the  UA's                                                                    
     outstanding deferred maintenance issues?                                                                                   
          • The major maintenance and modernization fund                                                                        
          was a step in the right direction.                                                                                    
     •  What  can be  done  to  help slow  rising  insurance                                                                    
     costs?  can the  economics  of pooling  with the  state                                                                    
     work?                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison  thought the president  had covered  the topic                                                                    
of the  slide. He mentioned  HB 236 by  Representative Stapp                                                                    
the   previous  year,   related  to   UA's  Deferred   Major                                                                    
Maintenance  Fund. He  thought legislative  discussions were                                                                    
ongoing.  He  mentioned  past  looks  at  the  economics  of                                                                    
pooling insurance that  were not favorable. He  asked if Ms.                                                                    
Kruckenberg could address the FY 24 ratification.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kruckenberg  showed slide  16, "FY24  Ratification," and                                                                    
noted  that  in  FY  24, UA  had  expended  more  University                                                                    
receipts than it  had budget authority to  spend. The system                                                                    
had the  revenue but had  not had the authority.  The bottom                                                                    
part  of the  slide quantified  the main  cost drivers.  She                                                                    
mentioned  Statutory  Designated  Program  Receipts  and  an                                                                    
increase of $5.5 million,  which required receipt authority.                                                                    
She mentioned  a change  in accounting  practice for  how UA                                                                    
Foundation funds  were utilized.  She mentioned  an increase                                                                    
in  land management  and Natural  Resource Fund  activities.                                                                    
She mentioned $11.4 million  in unrestricted operations. She                                                                    
mentioned   the   deficits   in   auxiliary   and   recharge                                                                    
operations,  which had  to be  balanced  at the  end of  the                                                                    
year.  She  emphasized that  the  situation  was being  more                                                                    
actively monitored,  and that  it would  not be  repeated in                                                                    
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:28:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  thanked Ms. Kruckenberg  for bringing  the FY                                                                    
24  ratification   forward.  He   shared  the   concern  and                                                                    
appreciated Ms.  Kruckenberg's assertion  that it  would not                                                                    
be repeated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hutchison thanked the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  asked  members   to  work  with  his  office                                                                    
regarding concerns  and ideas.  He discussed the  agenda for                                                                    
the following day.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:30:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 a.m.                                                                                         

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