Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/05/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:10 AM School District Fund Balance Discussion
11:04:10 AM Adjourn
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 5, 2024                                                                                            
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Lisa  Parady,  Executive Director,  Alaska  Council  of                                                                    
School Administrators; Nils  Andreassen, Executive Director,                                                                    
Alaska  Municipal  League;  Andy  Ratliff,  Chief  Financial                                                                    
Officer,  Anchorage   School  District;  Dr.   Randy  Trani,                                                                    
Superintendent,  Matanuska-Susitna  School  District;  Katie                                                                    
Gardner,  Deputy  Superintendent of  Operations,  Matanuska-                                                                    
Susitna   School    District;   Dr.    Madeline   Aguillard,                                                                    
Superintendent,  Kuspuk  School   District;  Martha  Morgan,                                                                    
Business Manager,  Kuspuk School  District; Dr.  Cyndy Mika,                                                                    
Superintendent,  Kodiak  Island   Borough  School  District;                                                                    
Sandy Daws,  chief Financial Officer, Kodiak  Island Borough                                                                    
School  District;  Terri Walker,  Superintendent,  Northwest                                                                    
Arctic Borough School District;  Megan Williams, Director of                                                                    
Administrative  Services,  Northwest Arctic  Borough  School                                                                    
District;   Michael   Robbins,   Superintendent,   Ketchikan                                                                    
Gateway Borough School District.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SCHOOL DISTRICT FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  commented   that  the   committee  would                                                                    
consider  testimony regarding  school funding.  He discussed                                                                    
the order of testimony.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^SCHOOL DISTRICT FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LISA  PARADY,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  COUNCIL  OF                                                                    
SCHOOL  ADMINISTRATORS,  introduced  herself  and  explained                                                                    
that  the Alaska  Council  of  School Administrators  (ACSA)                                                                    
represented  all superintendents,  elementary and  secondary                                                                    
principals,   school  business   officials,  and   education                                                                    
leaders  across the  state.  She  mentioned ACSAs   position                                                                    
statement  that contained  a pencil  chart.  She noted  that                                                                    
since 2017, there  had only been a $30 increase  to the Base                                                                    
Student Allocation  (BSA). She  estimated that  adjusted for                                                                    
inflation, the  FY 20 BSA  of $5,960 had  an FY 12  value of                                                                    
$4,682. She noted that there had  been a huge loss of buying                                                                    
power for school districts. She  contended that adjusted for                                                                    
inflation since 2017, the BSA would be $7,373.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Parady  relayed that school  districts would  be sharing                                                                    
figures and  framework of operations.  She thought  the fund                                                                    
balances  had caused  great confusion  in recent  years, and                                                                    
she hoped the school  districts' presentations would provide                                                                    
clarity. She mentioned partnering  with the Alaska Municipal                                                                    
League  (AML) and  referenced a  white paper  entitled "Fund                                                                    
Balance  Explainer" (copy  on file).  She  relayed that  AML                                                                    
Executive  Director Nils  Andreassen  would present  related                                                                    
slides.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  MUNICIPAL                                                                    
LEAGUE,  discussed  a  presentation  entitled  "ACSA  School                                                                    
District Presentation  to Senate  Finance Committee    March                                                                    
5,  2024," (copy  on  file).  He looked  at  slide 2,  "Fund                                                                    
Balance Overview":                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Purpose                                                                                                                    
     Smooth Cash Flow Management                                                                                            
     Offset Revenue Shortfalls                                                                                              
     Offset Unexpected Expenditures                                                                                         
     Maintain Services                                                                                                      
     Improve Long-Term Planning                                                                                             
     Enhance Credit Ratings                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Types                                                                                                                      
     Non-Spendable                                                                                                          
     Restricted                                                                                                             
     Committed                                                                                                              
     Assigned                                                                                                               
     Unassigned                                                                                                             
          Deferred                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:08:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Andreassen   spoke   to   slide   3,   "Fund   Balance                                                                    
Considerations":                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation timelines   receipt of federal, state,                                                                  
        and local contributions at one time increases                                                                           
        unassigned fund balance when reported on interim                                                                        
        basis.                                                                                                                  
     Payroll  lag on cash basis                                                                                             
     Teacher salaries  defer to summer months.                                                                              
     Planned purchases  may not be encumbered                                                                               
     Student activities    held for  use later  in school                                                                  
        year                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:09:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen  referenced  slide  4,  "GFOA  Fund  Balance                                                                    
Guidelines," which showed the  text of the guidelines, which                                                                    
were  guidelines  formerly  adopted  and  published  on  the                                                                    
website  of  the  Government  Finance  Officers  Association                                                                    
(GFOA). He highlighted a portion:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Nevertheless,  GFOA  recommends,  at  a  minimum,  that                                                                    
     general-purpose   governments,   regardless  of   size,                                                                    
     maintain unrestricted  budgetary fund balance  in their                                                                    
     general  fund of  no less  than two  months of  regular                                                                    
     fund  operating   revenues  or  regular   general  fund                                                                    
     operating expenditures.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:10:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen turned to slide 5, "Fund Balance Allocations                                                                     
  Feb 1, 2024":                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     61%  percent  of  school  districts'  fund  balance  is                                                                    
     either non-spendable (like inventory)  or set aside for                                                                    
     a specific purpose.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The remaining  39% must cover  cash flow,  future bills                                                                    
     and payroll, and any emergency needs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Districts  with  higher  unassigned fund  balances  may                                                                    
     experience timing issue discussed previously.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:10:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen considered slide 6, "Fund Balance vs.                                                                            
Expenses":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The statewide  total unassigned fund balance  amount is                                                                    
     equivalent  to  just  8%  of  school  districts'  total                                                                    
     expenses.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     22 districts with $0 as unassigned fund balance.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Only five  districts fall above the  GFOA guidelines of                                                                    
     2 months.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen displayed slide 7, "Takeaways           FY24                                                                     
Budgets":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     16  of 53  school  districts have  balanced budgets  or                                                                    
   small surpluses in their FY24 Operating Fund budgets.                                                                        
     Use of  unassigned fund  balance only  pulls 15  out of                                                                    
     deficits.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen thought it was worth noting that budgets                                                                         
were updated throughout the school year as bids came in and                                                                     
were adjusted with amendments.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen highlighted slide 8, "Use of Fund Balance                                                                        
for Deficits":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     If  the  total unassigned  fund  balance  were used  to                                                                    
     cover the  total budget deficit,  it would  leave $110m                                                                    
     for the 2024-2025  school year   or just  9 school days                                                                    
     of expenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen relayed  that 22  school  districts did  not                                                                    
have fund balances to address budget deficits.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked to go  back to slide 8. He understood                                                                    
that  fund  balances could  not  be  moved from  one  school                                                                    
district to another.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  affirmed that  it was  not possible  to move                                                                    
fund balances  between districts. He thought  it appeared as                                                                    
though  there  was  $183  million   available  for  all  the                                                                    
districts, but  only some was  available to  some districts.                                                                    
The  funds  could not  be  used  to address  all  districts                                                                     
deficits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought there  was  a  breakdown on  fund                                                                    
balances on  slide 7. He  asked about  the date of  the fund                                                                    
balances.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  noted that the  table on slide 7  showed the                                                                    
FY 24 budgets. The information  was a snapshot in time based                                                                    
on the July 15 budgets  that were submitted by districts. He                                                                    
noted that  some of  the districts  may have  already pulled                                                                    
the  fund forward,  while other  school districts  would use                                                                    
the fund blance for actuals over the school year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if the balances shown  were what was                                                                    
in the account on July 1, 2023.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen noted  that the  amounts  showed the  budget                                                                    
numbers submitted rather than the fund balance amounts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  clarified that  some of the  fund balances                                                                    
were constrained, and some were not.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Parady  noted that  the six  school districts  that were                                                                    
presenting would discuss its fund balance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wanted  to be clear for the  public that it                                                                    
was not possible to move a  fund blance from one district to                                                                    
another, and  some districts had declining  enrollment while                                                                    
others  had advancing  enrollment,  and  all the  districts                                                                     
needs were different.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:15:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  commented on  slide 7 and  made note  of all                                                                    
the  red figures  on the  table which  indicated budgets  in                                                                    
deficit. He  thought the zero  figures indicated  a balanced                                                                    
budget. He wanted to see the slide with current numbers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought that  the committee  would discuss                                                                    
current figures with school districts presenting.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:37 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:50 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ANDY  RATLIFF,  CHIEF  FINANCIAL OFFICER,  ANCHORAGE  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT,  introduced himself  and explained  that he  would                                                                    
discuss  some financial  history, fund  balance, and  future                                                                    
years for the  Anchorage School District (ASD).  He showed a                                                                    
data  table of  ASD fund  balance  data (copy  on file).  He                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  table  showed  historic  enrollment,                                                                    
budget history,  and current budget.  He cited a  decline in                                                                    
enrollment since 2023. He noted  an increase in the adjusted                                                                    
average daily  membership (ADM),  primarily due to  a change                                                                    
in statute. He  noted that he had slides  that would provide                                                                    
further details on the change in enrollment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  discussed ASDs  budget history,  which included                                                                    
the   Public  Employees'   Retirement   System  (PERS)   and                                                                    
Teachers   Retirement System  (TRS) on-behalf  payments. The                                                                    
bottom  of the  budget history  showed the  end-of-year fund                                                                    
balance,  which had  been hovering  around  $120 million  to                                                                    
$130  million  until  2023,  when there  was  an  uptick  in                                                                    
funding  through  vacancies,  savings,  and  state  one-time                                                                    
funding.  He made  note  of $225  million  in maximum  local                                                                    
contributions the  city could contribute to  ASDs  operating                                                                    
fund, and the actual  amount was approximately $221 million.                                                                    
The  difference was  due  to the  timing  of state  one-time                                                                    
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked if  Mr.  Ratliff  could define  the                                                                    
additional  allowable  amount   and  the  maximum  allowable                                                                    
amount.  He  thought the  slides  from  the other  districts                                                                    
would be similar.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff explained that the  maximum allowable amount was                                                                    
both  the required  local  contribution  (based on  property                                                                    
taxes in the district),  and the additional allowable amount                                                                    
was calculated as  23 percent of basic need.  Basic need was                                                                    
the BSA times the adjusted ADM.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if  the amount  listed  was up  the                                                                    
allowable maximum under state statute.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff explained that the  $225 million was the maximum                                                                    
amount and the $221 million  was the actual amount. He noted                                                                    
that the state funding increased the allowable maximum.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff  discussed   a  presentation  entitled  "Senate                                                                    
Finance Presentation," (copy  on file).  He  looked at slide                                                                    
1, "Budget  Development Process,"  which showed  a graphical                                                                    
representation  of ASD's  2023-24  spending  plan. He  noted                                                                    
that the  biggest spending  category was  direct instruction                                                                    
that funded  teachers and paraprofessionals, as  well as all                                                                    
supplies  and  materials/equipment   that  supported  direct                                                                    
student instruction.  Student support  was the  next biggest                                                                    
line  item,  which  included nurses,  counselors,  security,                                                                    
librarians,  principals, clerical  staff,  and other  items.                                                                    
Operations  and maintenance  of  the schools  was about  $84                                                                    
million.   Administration,  which included  superintendents,                                                                    
school board, finance,  purchasing, budget, human resources,                                                                    
IT, and other areas was about $42 million.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff noted that there  was frequent discussion around                                                                    
cutting  school administration.  For  the departments  under                                                                    
his  purview,   he  reported  having  cut   half  the  chief                                                                    
financial officers  staff,  a third of the  budget staff, 25                                                                    
percent of  the accounting  staff, and  about 17  percent of                                                                    
the purchasing  staff over the  previous 10 to 12  years. He                                                                    
noted that  ASD was making  adjustments where it  could find                                                                    
efficiencies   but  was   approaching  a   mission  critical                                                                    
position where  it was  not possible to  take any  more from                                                                    
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff referenced  the FY  25 budget,  which had  been                                                                    
submitted to the  assembly for approval and  had factored in                                                                    
a projected  $100 BSA increase.  The school board  had added                                                                    
the  funds back  in  order  to not  have  to increase  class                                                                    
sizes. He  mentioned retaining programs and  other items. He                                                                    
cited using  $71 million of  the districts  fund  balance to                                                                    
balance the budget.  He referenced a slide  presented by Mr.                                                                    
Andreassen  which had  shown  that ASD  intended  to use  $5                                                                    
million to  balance its  budget. He  explained that  ASD was                                                                    
counting on funding  that did not yet exist  and was burning                                                                    
down its  fund balance.  He mentioned  taking on  more risk,                                                                    
and vacancy and turnover.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked Mr. Ratliff  to discuss budgeting and                                                                    
unfilled positions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff explained that ASD  estimated how many positions                                                                    
would  go  unfilled. For  the  current  year, ASD  estimated                                                                    
about $28 million  of unspent salary and  benefit money, but                                                                    
considered that  it would  be closer  to $41  million, which                                                                    
would  increase  available  fund blance  for  the  following                                                                    
year. He cited  about 400 to 450 vacancies  the district had                                                                    
had for  the past two  years, which  was about 8  percent of                                                                    
the districts workforce.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the vacancies would  provide about                                                                    
$20 million in positive cash flow.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff  estimated  that the  vacancies  would  provide                                                                    
about $13 million.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:25:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked  for Mr. Ratliff to discuss  use of the                                                                    
fund balance  to cover the  districts  deficit. He  asked if                                                                    
the budget process used a projection of estimated revenue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  relayed that  the $45  million in  fund balance                                                                    
was  for  the current  years   budget,  but the  amount  had                                                                    
changed  when  one-time  state   funding  was  received.  He                                                                    
explained  that   the  $71  million  was   planned  for  the                                                                    
following  year,  which would  reduce  the  fund balance  to                                                                    
approximately  1  percent   of  expenditures.  He  mentioned                                                                    
hiring delays, making significant  reduction in supplies and                                                                    
services, and not refreshing curriculum.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  asked about Mr. Ratliffs   comment regarding                                                                    
an estimate of an equivalence in BSA funding.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  relayed that ASD estimated  an approximate $100                                                                    
increase in  the BSA just  to retain mission  critical items                                                                    
and not have to displace staff.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked if  the  $100  was  on top  of  the                                                                    
current years appropriation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  relayed that  the $100 estimate  was on  top of                                                                    
the $5,960 BSA that was currently in statute.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:26:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff spoke  to slide  2, "Funding  Since 2017  - BSA                                                                    
Equivalents,"  which showed  a bar  graph depicting  the BSA                                                                    
over time. He explained that  the other bars were indicative                                                                    
of how ASD balanced the budget.  The yellow bar in FY 25 was                                                                    
the  BSA  equivalent of  how  much  ASD  was using  in  fund                                                                    
balance.  The budget  had been  balanced through  Elementary                                                                    
and Secondary  School Emergency Relief (ESSER)  funds, state                                                                    
one-time  funds, budget  cuts. The  line at  the top  showed                                                                    
what the BSA would be had it been inflation proofed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  did not think the  committee was concerned                                                                    
with  the inflation  adjusted amount,  but  rather what  was                                                                    
needed for ASD to run its school system.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff  thought  ASD  would  spend  through  its  fund                                                                    
balance by FY 26.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:28:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  observed the fund  balance and  pondered how                                                                    
long the district could operate  until there was a zero fund                                                                    
balance.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff   noted  that  there   would  still   be  other                                                                    
categories  of required  reserves,  which were  on the  next                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:28:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff  advanced to  slide  3,  "Fund Balance     FY24                                                                    
General Fund Projection,"  which showed a flow  chart of the                                                                    
$71  million  in  reserve  balance  going  towards  pre-paid                                                                    
items,  inventory, federal  impact aid  (payment in  lieu of                                                                    
taxes),  encumbrances,  and   self-insurance.  Much  of  the                                                                    
encumbered  funds  were  for charter  schools,  which  could                                                                    
encumber  unspent funds  and carry  it  forward. He  thought                                                                    
charter schools would be spending  much of their balance for                                                                    
the  following year.  He noted  that  the unreserved  funds,                                                                    
shown  on  the  bottom  half of  the  slide,  were  reported                                                                    
differently.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff referenced Mr.  Andreassens  testimony and noted                                                                    
that  there was  a disparity  between the  states  reporting                                                                    
and  the  reporting  that  was  required  of  districts.  He                                                                    
mentioned the  $71.2 million in unreserved  funds that would                                                                    
go towards the FY 25 deficit.  If ASD were to get additional                                                                    
funding  from the  state, it  would reduce  the reliance  on                                                                    
fund balances.  He commented that  it was not  best practice                                                                    
to use  the fund balance down  to zero. The $6.2  million in                                                                    
unassigned  funds   would  be   used  for   emergencies.  He                                                                    
emphasized  the need  to maintain  quality education  in the                                                                    
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:30:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ratliff turned  to slide  4,  "General Fund  Historical                                                                    
Attrition,"  which  showed a  bar  graph  of the  district's                                                                    
general fund  and a table  of total attrition for  each year                                                                    
from 2013  to 2025. He highlighted  that the red line  was a                                                                    
percentage  of the  total  budget, and  the  blue bars  were                                                                    
adopted salary and benefits. The  chart at the bottom showed                                                                    
how much had been realized over  the years. There had been a                                                                    
steady  increase  that  was indicative  of  recruitment  and                                                                    
retention issues. He cited that  the district was increasing                                                                    
attrition estimates, which was adding more risk.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thought Mr. Ratliff  had indicated that ASD                                                                    
needed  $110 over  the base  BSA to  make the  school system                                                                    
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff commented  that ideally ASD would  have more, as                                                                    
it  was  cutting  in many  areas  including  administration,                                                                    
special   education,   curriculum,    and   technology.   He                                                                    
reiterated that  ideally ASD would  not use its  $71 million                                                                    
fund  balance,  which could  be  used  it to  help  maintain                                                                    
facilities. He  noted that  ASD currently  had a  $1 billion                                                                    
backlog in deferred maintenance.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Stedman   asked    Mr.   Ratliff    to   address                                                                    
transportation  costs and  what  ASD was  doing to  maintain                                                                    
hard assets.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:31:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff showed  slide 5, "Local Taxes  and State Revenue                                                                    
- Change  since 2017,"  which showed a  table of  changes in                                                                    
revenue streams, including  for transportation and operating                                                                    
funding. He pointed  out that in 2017,  transportation was a                                                                    
fully self-funded program from the  state. In 2017 the state                                                                    
paid  100 percent  of  transportation,  while currently  the                                                                    
state paid a  little under $20 million,  and local taxpayers                                                                    
paid close to $9 million.  He understood that there had been                                                                    
declines in enrollment and there  was a need to  right-size                                                                     
the  district with  regard to  consolidations. He  mentioned                                                                    
that  consolidations   would  begin  in  a   few  weeks.  He                                                                    
referenced town hall meetings  and community engagement, and                                                                    
the  community had  been unhappy  with  lack of  involvement                                                                    
during school closure decision making.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman summarized  that there  was an  additional                                                                    
$110 needed,  and there  would be  school system  failure if                                                                    
the BSA did not reach $1,400 within two years.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  answered affirmatively. He pondered  the effect                                                                    
of flat  revenues and  a spent-down  fund balance  after two                                                                    
years without  an increase  to the BSA.  He agreed  that the                                                                    
result would  be significant,  and that  ASD would  not look                                                                    
the same.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked Mr.  Ratliff  to  get back  to  the                                                                    
committee with a projection of  ASD's financial position for                                                                    
the  following  three   years,  using  estimated  enrollment                                                                    
projection numbers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:34:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  thought ASDs   average daily  enrollment had                                                                    
seen a  big spike  in correspondence  students. He  asked if                                                                    
there  had been  a  survey to  determine  why students  were                                                                    
leaving brick and mortar schools for correspondence.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff  showed slide 7,  "Average Daily  Membership and                                                                    
Enrollment   History,"  which   showed  a   table  including                                                                    
enrollment and  adjusted ADM. He  thought that  the Covid-19                                                                    
pandemic had resulted in many  people choosing the alternate                                                                    
mode of  school and  had not returned.  He noted  that there                                                                    
were no surveys  to back up the data. He  explained that the                                                                    
chart reflected the  fact that ASD enrollment  had gone down                                                                    
by 10 percent in the  previous ten years. He identified that                                                                    
the adjusted  ADM had  only gone  down about  three percent,                                                                    
which he  explained was  predominantly due  to a  38 percent                                                                    
increase  in intensive-needs  students that  resulted in  an                                                                    
adjustment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick wanted to see  information on class sizes in                                                                    
ASD and what would happen to  class sizes if the changes Mr.                                                                    
Ratliff described took place.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  Mr.  Ratliff  to  incorporate  the                                                                    
information  into  the  other data  he  had  requested  that                                                                    
included enrollment projections.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ratliff agreed. He looked  at slide 9, "PTR Snapshot for                                                                    
All Grades," which showed a  snapshot of pupil/teacher ratio                                                                    
(PTR) in two tables that enumerated  the FY 15 and FY 25 PTR                                                                    
for all grades. He estimated  that increasing PTR across the                                                                    
board was equivalent to about $7 million to $8 million.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:37:09 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:38:27 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman relayed that  the committee would hear from                                                                    
the  Matanuska-Susitna (Mat-Su)  School  District. He  noted                                                                    
that the district was a growth  area of the state, which had                                                                    
gone from about  13,000 students at the turn  of the century                                                                    
to close to 20,000 presently.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:39:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  RANDY TRANI,  SUPERINTENDENT, MATANUSKA-SUSITNA  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT,  discussed   a  report   entitled  "Superintendent                                                                    
Report" (copy on  file). He noted that he  had truncated the                                                                    
presentation  in the  interest  of time,  and  he hoped  the                                                                    
committee would have the chance  to peruse the first part of                                                                    
the  presentation which  reflected  academic  growth in  the                                                                    
district.   He   highlighted   slide  18,   "AVERAGE   DAILY                                                                    
MEMBERSHIP," which showed a bar  graph. He relayed that Mat-                                                                    
Su  School   District  (MSSD)   had  managed   flat  funding                                                                    
differently than  other districts was that  as more students                                                                    
came into  the district,  it had differentially  added staff                                                                    
to support them.  He specified that if the  BSA increase was                                                                    
zero, MSSD  would cut  $30 million or  use fund  balance; if                                                                    
the BSA  increase was  $340, MSSD would  cut $18  million or                                                                    
use  fund balance;  and if  the BSA  increase was  $680 MSSD                                                                    
would cut $6 million.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:40:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE   GARDNER,   DEPUTY  SUPERINTENDENT   OF   OPERATIONS,                                                                    
MATANUSKA-SUSITNA  SCHOOL  DISTRICT,  continued  to  discuss                                                                    
MSSD. She  noted that  the district  was growing,  and cited                                                                    
that  while growth  had steadied,  MSSD had  grown about  50                                                                    
percent since  2000. She  mentioned a  dip in  enrollment in                                                                    
2020 and noted that MSSD  had rebounded and continued to see                                                                    
growth year over year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Gardner  looked   at  slide   19,  "AVAILABLE   ANNUAL                                                                    
RESOURCES,"  which showed  a bar  graph. She  commented that                                                                    
the school  district had relied  on inconsistent  funding to                                                                    
make sure  students  needs  were met.  While there  had been                                                                    
flat funding from  the state, MSSD had relied  on state one-                                                                    
time  funds,  Covid relief  funds,  and  the districts  fund                                                                    
balance to  sustain operations. She  noted that part  of the                                                                    
projected  deficit for  FY 25  was a  result of  the funding                                                                    
sources  no longer  being available  or fully  expended. She                                                                    
noted that  MSSD would be  talking with its  board regarding                                                                    
using  fund balance  to help  with FY  25. There  were still                                                                    
anticipated reductions to balance the budget for FY 25.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:42:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gardner addressed slide  20, "STATE FOUNDATION FORMULA,"                                                                    
which showed  a bar  graph depicting  ten years  of historic                                                                    
general  fund BSA.  She commented  that the  local community                                                                    
was also  growing at a  rapid rate and pondered  an increase                                                                    
in  assessed  values  causing diminished  funding  from  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner   advanced  to  slide  21,   "STATE  FOUNDATION                                                                    
FORMULA," which showed  a comparison of 2019  and 2024 state                                                                    
BSA  and local  contribution funding  of MSSD.  She observed                                                                    
that the percentage of local contribution had grown.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner  looked  at slide  22,  "EXPENDITURE  BY  STATE                                                                    
FUNCTION,"  which showed  two pie  charts the  depicted MSSD                                                                    
expenditures  between  2019 and  2024.  She  noted that  the                                                                    
district was focusing its decision  in educational areas and                                                                    
keep  other   administrative  areas  flat  or   with  slight                                                                    
reduction to  maintain class size  as much as  possible. She                                                                    
mentioned keeping class size as  a consistent priority after                                                                    
surveying  families  and  community.   She  noted  that  the                                                                    
district had  used ESSER funds to  support maintaining class                                                                    
sizes. Most  of MSSDs   expenditures for  Covid-relief funds                                                                    
had been  in special education and  regular education areas.                                                                    
The funds were revenue that  the district would have to make                                                                    
up for in FY 25.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:45:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner spoke  to slide  23, "HISTORIC  UNASSIGNED FUND                                                                    
BALANCE,"  which  showed  a bar  graph  of  unassigned  fund                                                                    
balances  since   FY  14.  She  explained   that  board  had                                                                    
established   a   minimum   fund  balance   for   unforeseen                                                                    
circumstances. She  mentioned having  to build a  new school                                                                    
after  an  earthquake. At  fiscal  year-end  2023, MSSD  had                                                                    
approximately  $20 million  in fund  balance, with  about $3                                                                    
million  reserved for  charter schools.  The funds  had been                                                                    
allocated  to charter  schools, and  the schools  maintained                                                                    
the funds.  She explained that  the red line was the minimum                                                                    
fund balance set  by the school board  two years previously,                                                                    
the  blue portion  of the  bar was  the district  unassigned                                                                    
funds,  and the  green  portion denoted  the charter  school                                                                    
balances.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:46:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked if  Ms. Gardner  could address  the $12                                                                    
million funding drop from 2020 to 2021.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner explained  that  the  adjustment happened  over                                                                    
time. She recounted that after  the earthquake, the district                                                                    
had combined  Houston Middle School and  Houston High School                                                                    
into one facility because one  of the schools was torn down.                                                                    
In  order  to  provide   a  replacement  school  built,  the                                                                    
district  had  contributed  a  significant  amount  of  fund                                                                    
balance to ensure  the construction began. In  the end there                                                                    
were  funds identified,  and the  funds originally  provided                                                                    
were  used   to  fund  Mat-Su  Central   School,  which  was                                                                    
underway.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for details  on the maximum allowable                                                                    
fund  balance of  $91 million  and the  contribution of  $71                                                                    
million.  He referenced  the MSBSD  fund  blance data  sheet                                                                    
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:48:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner explained  that the  maximum allowable  denoted                                                                    
the maximum amount that the  Mat-Su Borough could contribute                                                                    
to education.  The borough was contributing  $71 million for                                                                    
FY 24, leaving $20 that  could be contributed. She mentioned                                                                    
a  tax cap  approved by  the assembly  that had  limited the                                                                    
borough from being able to  fund up to the maximum allowable                                                                    
amount.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about the projected  deficit for the                                                                    
coming year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner  cited  that  with no  increases  to  the  BSA,                                                                    
projected deficit would be approximately $30 million.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if Ms. Gardner  was calculating form                                                                    
the base  BSA or the  current funding in the  present years                                                                     
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner  relayed that  in  projecting  the $30  million                                                                    
deficit, the  district was using  the current BSA  at $5,960                                                                    
with MSSDs projected enrollment for the following year.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about a  deficit if the next year was                                                                    
a repeat of the current year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gardner answered, "$18 million."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:50:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  asked  if  Ms.  Gardner  could  discuss  the                                                                    
relationship between  the $71  million contribution  and the                                                                    
required local contribution.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Gardner  believed   the  Mat-Su   Borough  contributed                                                                    
approximately   $27  million   above   the  required   local                                                                    
contribution.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner  referenced  slide  24,  "STATE  TRANSPORTATION                                                                    
FUNDING,"  which  showed  a  bar graph  with  ten  years  of                                                                    
audited  historic revenue  and expenditure  comparisons. She                                                                    
noted  that the  district  covered a  large geographic  area                                                                    
with   some   of   the  longest   and   most   comprehensive                                                                    
transportation  system.  She  noted that  the  district  had                                                                    
experienced a  deficit in  transportation over  the previous                                                                    
ten years.  She identified  that there  were two  times when                                                                    
there was not a deficit  for student transportation: in 2020                                                                    
when there was a quarters   closure, and a month-long school                                                                    
bus  strike  the  previous year.  The  district's  projected                                                                    
deficit for FY  25 was about $5 million.  The district would                                                                    
have to take  operating funds for student  education to fill                                                                    
the deficit for transportation for operations to continue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for Ms.  Gardner to equate the dollar                                                                    
change in the overall system through the formula.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gardner estimated  that the increase would  equate to be                                                                    
about $315 per student for transportation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  reiterated  that   MSBSD  was  a  growing                                                                    
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:53:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator    Wilson   considered    the   maximum    allowable                                                                    
contribution  and  asked  about  the  minimum  BSA  increase                                                                    
required to retain status quo in the district.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Gardner relayed  that as  MSBSD had  evaluated spending                                                                    
for FY  25, the resource  available through SB  140 combined                                                                    
with some  fund balance  would bring  the district  close to                                                                    
balancing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if  Ms. Gardner  referred to  a $680                                                                    
increase to the BSA.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gardner  affirmed that she  was referring to a  $680 BSA                                                                    
increase along  with additional funding  for correspondence,                                                                    
student transportation, and the Alaska Reads Act.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Trani pointed  to  the  maximum allowable  contribution                                                                    
from  the borough.  He pondered  that the  borough had  gone                                                                    
from giving $60 million to  $71 million over the time frame.                                                                    
He  commented that  as  the borough  had  given more  money,                                                                    
funding had remained  flat because the state  had given less                                                                    
money.  He reiterated  that  as MSBSD  had  grown with  more                                                                    
students, it hadnt hired more staff.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  Dr.  Trani  to  get  back  to  the                                                                    
committee with  information about  class sizes and  a three-                                                                    
year projection previously requested.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:55:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson referenced  personnel  and  noted that  some                                                                    
rural  school districts  had been  relying on  international                                                                    
hires to fill  some of the positions. He asked  if MSBSD had                                                                    
done the same.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Trani  relayed  that  MSBSD had  a  team  of  dedicated                                                                    
professionals that worked year-round  to make sure there was                                                                    
an  adequate supply  of employees.  He  thought the  vacancy                                                                    
rate was one  of the lowest. He commented  that the district                                                                    
was geographically desirable.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:56:21 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:26 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MADELINE   AGUILLARD,  SUPERINTENDENT,   KUSPUK  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT,  introduced herself  and relayed  that the  Kuspuk                                                                    
School  District (KSD)  was Regional  Educational Attendance                                                                    
Area (REAA) number five.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARTHA  MORGAN, BUSINESS  MANAGER,  KUSPUK SCHOOL  DISTRICT,                                                                    
introduced herself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard emphasized  that KSD  was different  than the                                                                    
other two  districts that had  presented, as it was  an REAA                                                                    
and was  in a  remote area in  Western Alaska.  The district                                                                    
was about  320 air miles  from Anchorage. She  discussed her                                                                    
background. She had been hired  five years previously as the                                                                    
director  of  Special  Education  and  Federal  Programs,  a                                                                    
position which  had gone to  the superintendent's  office in                                                                    
KSD.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard  discussed  a  She  showed  slide  1,  "about                                                                    
Kuspuk":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     9 schools serving 7 communities - 312 students                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Kalskag                                                                                                                    
     Joseph &  Olinga Gregory Elementary:  Grades PK-2  - 52                                                                    
     students                                                                                                                   
     Zackar Levi Elementary: Grades 3-5 - 32 students                                                                           
     George  Morgan  Sr.  High  School:  Grades  6-12  -  64                                                                    
     students                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Aniak                                                                                                                      
     Auntie Mary Nicoli Elementary School:  Grades PK-5 - 42                                                                    
     students                                                                                                                   
     Aniak  Junior  Senior High  School:  Grades  6-12 -  47                                                                    
     students                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Upriver                                                                                                                    
     Crow Village Sam School: Grades K-12 - 23 students                                                                         
   Johnnie John Senior School: Grades K-12 - 24 students                                                                        
   Jack Egnaty Senior School: Grades PK-12 - 17 students                                                                        
     Gusty Michael School: Grades K-12 - 11 students                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard  discussed  work for  competitive  state  and                                                                    
federal grants.  She cited  that about  60 percent  of KSD's                                                                    
budget  was  grant funded.  She  emphasized  that while  the                                                                    
district  had  only  312 students,  the  previous  year  234                                                                    
students transferred from within the  district or in and out                                                                    
to another district. The district  had 234 students that had                                                                    
moved within  the district. She  explained that  the student                                                                    
counts  did not  accurately  reflect how  many students  the                                                                    
district served.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard advanced to slide 3, "Who are our students?":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ?  +97% of  students are  Alaska Native  of Yup'ik  and                                                                    
     Athabascan descent                                                                                                         
     ? 100%  of students  Free and Reduced  Lunch (Community                                                                    
     Eligibility Provision)                                                                                                     
     ? 17%  of students  receive special  education services                                                                    
     (4% Intensive needs)                                                                                                       
          ? Hearing loss                                                                                                        
          ? Fetal Alcohol Syndrome                                                                                              
          ? Autism                                                                                                              
          ? Developmental Delay                                                                                                 
          ? Specific Learning Disability                                                                                        
          ? Other Health Impairment                                                                                             
          ? Speech/Language                                                                                                     
     ? Migrant Students                                                                                                         
     ? English Learners                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard  noted  that  while  the  districts   overall                                                                    
enrollment  was going  down, the  number of  intensive needs                                                                    
students was growing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard showed  a  fund balance  data  sheet for  KSD                                                                    
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:00:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard showed slide 4, " Who are our teachers?":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? 35 certified teaching positions                                                                                          
          ? 6 generalists: instructing 6-7 grades in one                                                                        
          classroom (up to 42 different courses per                                                                             
          semester)                                                                                                             
          ? 5 special education                                                                                                 
          ? 2 early childhood                                                                                                   
          ? 1 CTE                                                                                                               
          ? 11 grade level/content teachers                                                                                     
     ? 3 principals                                                                                                             
     ? 2.5 district administrators                                                                                              
     ? 50% of certified teachers on J1 visas from the                                                                           
     Philippines                                                                                                                
     ? 3% of certified teachers are Alaskan Native                                                                              
     ? 20% of certified teaching positions VACANT                                                                               
     ? 40% of special education teaching positions VACANT                                                                       
     ? Gusty Michael School = 0 certified teachers on staff                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard noted  that the  2.5 district  administrators                                                                    
were  working  on  the  grant portion  of  the  budget.  She                                                                    
discussed staffing challenges.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:02:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard advanced  to  slide 5,  "FY 24  -  How do  we                                                                    
staff?", which showed  a table of teaching  positions at KSD                                                                    
schools. She commented  on the number of  vacancies shown in                                                                    
red.  She  noted  that  20  percent  of  certified  teaching                                                                    
positions  were  vacant,  40 percent  of  special  education                                                                    
positions  were vacant,  and there  was one  school with  no                                                                    
certified in-person  teachers. She  cited that  the district                                                                    
had a  projected budget for  certified teachers of  a little                                                                    
over $3  million, and  that the  average teacher  salary was                                                                    
about  $72,000 while  the average  administrator salary  was                                                                    
$120,000.  She  emphasized  that  KSD could  not  keep  core                                                                    
educators  in its  classrooms. She  noted that  KSD did  not                                                                    
have advanced foreign language,  music, and library, and had                                                                    
actually  built  a  school  without a  library  due  to  the                                                                    
inability  to  hire  staff. She  emphasized  that  when  KSD                                                                    
contemplating  cuts, it  would be  to kindergarten  teachers                                                                    
and other core academic teachers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:03:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard  spoke to slide  6, "FY24 budget  projection -                                                                    
end of year."  She emphasized that services  still needed to                                                                    
be provided even with the  vacancies, and that some teachers                                                                    
were teaching  up to  42 classes  a semester.  She mentioned                                                                    
teachers  not returning  after winter  break. She  mentioned                                                                    
moving core  instruction to  online delivery.  She discussed                                                                    
unexpected  staff  attrition.  She discussed  the  need  for                                                                    
action and tough decisions by  the board. She noted that the                                                                    
table on the slide showed  a budget snapshot as of February.                                                                    
She cited  being over  budget in  a number  of areas  due to                                                                    
deploying remote and online learning.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard discussed  the  cost of  travel  as a  budget                                                                    
effect.  She mentioned  closure of  commercial air  services                                                                    
and  highlighted that  staff and  student  travel costs  had                                                                    
risen.  The   travel  also  included  options   for  sending                                                                    
students   to  attend   learning   opportunities  in   other                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for  discussion  of  the  expenses                                                                    
related to E-Rate and the Broadband Assistance Grant.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morgan  identified that the  E-Rate was a  federal grant                                                                    
that KSD received as revenue.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  the  district  was  offsetting                                                                    
revenue and  expenditures. He asked  for description  of the                                                                    
center column.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morgan  explained that the  center column  showed actual                                                                    
expensive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  pondered that the  year to date was  as of                                                                    
February 26.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:06:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked about success  of the teachers from the                                                                    
Philippines.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard relayed  that the hiring of  teachers from the                                                                    
Philippines had  been a great  experience for  the district.                                                                    
Four  years  previously  the  district  had  started  hiring                                                                    
teachers on J-1 visas. In  the beginning the teachers taught                                                                    
remotely  while  the  district  learned  the  visa  process.                                                                    
Teacher retention  had gone  from 40  percent to  90 percent                                                                    
with  the  active  visa  holders.  She  explained  that  the                                                                    
cultural  exchange visa  holders  wanted  to complete  three                                                                    
years  and wanted  to  complete  extensions. She  emphasized                                                                    
that  the J-1  visa  holders were  highly educated  teachers                                                                    
with  many years  of experience  and content  expertise. She                                                                    
noted that the teachers were  supportive of the Alaska Reads                                                                    
Act.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson considered student  scores and asked if there                                                                    
had been an effect from the teachers on J-1 visas.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard  relayed that the  district was  still waiting                                                                    
for test scores  from the previous year and  could not speak                                                                    
to the statewide testing. She  relayed that the district had                                                                    
been watching  benchmarks closely  and assessing  with other                                                                    
tests  and  had  seen  great  growth.  She  noted  that  the                                                                    
district had  also hired certified pre-school  teachers. She                                                                    
commented on  consistency and noted  that even the  J-1 visa                                                                    
teachers  stay  of  three years  was  longer  than  previous                                                                    
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked if the  same was true for special needs                                                                    
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard  relayed  that she  was  the  Acting  Special                                                                    
Education  Director for  KSD.  She noted  that  KSD had  two                                                                    
special education  teachers were on  J-1 visas, one  of whom                                                                    
had  received  an  award  from  the  Governors   Council  on                                                                    
Disabilities and Special Education.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson commended Dr. Aguillard.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:10:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop   noted  that  he  had   nine  rural  school                                                                    
districts in  his district. He  asked if any of  the schools                                                                    
in KSD were reading at grade level.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aguillard answered  "no,"  but  qualified that  numbers                                                                    
were so small  it was difficult to publish  data without the                                                                    
risk of  identifying students. She  referenced a  great deal                                                                    
of individual growth and relayed  that many students were on                                                                    
gifted/talented  plans, had  advanced  grades and  graduated                                                                    
early,  and  were  attending  college   in  the  state.  She                                                                    
identified  the   goal  of  meeting   the  needs   of  every                                                                    
individual  student. She  believed  that KSD  was trying  to                                                                    
leverage its resources to advanced areas of well.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  mentioned  KSDs  deferred  maintenance  and                                                                    
acknowledged  the severity.  He  thought  outcomes would  be                                                                    
better  if  school  districts were  caught  up  on  deferred                                                                    
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:11:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard spoke to slide 9, "Deferred Maintenance":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Jack Egnaty Senior School                                                                                                  
   Major Maintenance application submitted for 14 years                                                                         
     Amount Requested: $1,608,442                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Johnnie John Senior School                                                                                                 
     Major   Maintenance/School   Construction   application                                                                    
     submitted for 15+ years                                                                                                    
     Amount Requested: $2,009,216                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Zackar Levi Elementary School                                                                                              
     New School Construction application FY26                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Auntie Mary Nicoli Elementary School                                                                                       
     New School Construction                                                                                                    
     Ongoing for 5 years                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard  stressed that there  were teachers  living in                                                                    
her district  schools, and there  was no teacher  housing in                                                                    
some communities. She cited that  the district had requested                                                                    
help on some  projects 14 to 15 years, and  noted that as an                                                                    
REAA, KSD  was entirely  reliant on  the state.  She relayed                                                                    
that  she had  applied for  Impact Aid  and had  received an                                                                    
emergency  construction  grant  with  partial  funding.  The                                                                    
grant had  a clause  that the  state or  local contributions                                                                    
would contribute to finish the  project, and the funds could                                                                    
not  be  accessed  until  there was  a  guarantee  that  the                                                                    
project in Sleetmute  could be finished. She  noted that KSD                                                                    
did  not  have  the   matching  funds.  She  emphasized  the                                                                    
deterioration   of  facilities   in   KSD.  She   referenced                                                                    
photographs  on  the  slide   and  noted  that  portions  of                                                                    
buildings were starting to  be closed, including gymnasiums,                                                                    
shops, and restrooms.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:13:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  referenced fund  balances  on  the KSD  fund                                                                    
balance  data sheet,  and  thought the  district  was up  to                                                                    
about $3.2  million in 2022,  and assumed  a part of  it was                                                                    
federal  Covid-19  funds.  He recalled  that  the  statewide                                                                    
slide showed  a planned  draw of about  half a  million from                                                                    
the fund  balance and observed a  projected end-of-year fund                                                                    
balance of $1.2 million. He  asked about the added draw from                                                                    
fund  balance  and  about a  sustainable  approach  for  the                                                                    
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aguillard affirmed that when  KSD's initial budget had a                                                                    
deficit of over $500,000.  She considered the projected end-                                                                    
of-year  fund  blance  of  $1.2  million,  the  half-million                                                                    
commitment,  and all  of the  overages discussed  early. She                                                                    
asserted that  the district had  been discussion  the amount                                                                    
of funding that  would get it through the  year. She thought                                                                    
that $680,000 would  allow the district to  maintain what it                                                                    
was  currently  doing.  She mentioned  combining  grades  in                                                                    
Aniak. She  noted that school  buildings and  physical space                                                                    
in Kalskag did not allow  for larger class sizes or combined                                                                    
classes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:16:16 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:07 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman relayed that  the committee would hear from                                                                    
the  Kodiak Island  Borough School  District (KIBSD),  which                                                                    
had declining  enrollment from roughly  2,700 down  to 2,000                                                                    
in the current century.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CYNDY  MIKA,   SUPERINTENDENT,  KODIAK  ISLAND  BOROUGH                                                                    
SCHOOL DISTRICT, introduced herself.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SANDY DAWS,  CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, KODIAK  ISLAND BOROUGH                                                                    
SCHOOL DISTRICT, introduced herself.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  discussed a presentation entitled   Senate Finance                                                                    
Committee   (copy  on  file). She  showed  slide  2,  "KIBSD                                                                    
Snapshot," which  showed a map  of the school  district. She                                                                    
cited that  KIBSD currently had  2,179 students. It  had six                                                                    
schools in  town on the road  system, as well as  five rural                                                                    
villages, one of which was  on the road system. The district                                                                    
had a home school program with 152 district students.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:18:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  showed slide 4,  "District Success:  Recruitment &                                                                    
Retention,   and  relayed  that   KIBSD  was  fully  staffed                                                                    
because  of its  international teacher  hires and  retention                                                                    
bonuses. She  noted that the  district had changed  from J-1                                                                    
visas  to H1B  visas so  that teachers  could emigrate.  She                                                                    
mentioned the importance of consistency.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:18:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika showed  slide 5,  "Our Reality:  Enrollment Down,                                                                     
which showed a line  graph depicting student enrollment from                                                                    
2011 to 2025.  She observed a steady  decline in enrollment,                                                                    
which was  primarily due to  the economics of  the declining                                                                    
fishing industry in Kodiak.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:19:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika addressed slide 6,  "Our Reality: Enrollment Down,"                                                                    
which showed a table. She  highlighted that the table showed                                                                    
from  2005 to  2025 the  enrollment in  neighborhood schools                                                                    
had  gone down  by about  27 percent.  Correspondence school                                                                    
had gone  up approximately 177 percent,  which was primarily                                                                    
due  to   what  happened  during  and   after  the  Covid-19                                                                    
pandemic. Intensive needs students  had gone up 246 percent,                                                                    
and despite  declining overall enrollment, the  adjusted ADM                                                                    
had gone up  18 percent because of  intensive needs students                                                                    
being served.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  about  declining  enrollment,  and                                                                    
asked if the district expected the trend to continue.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika shared  concerns about  an  announcement that  the                                                                    
districts   largest  cannery  would   close,  which  had  an                                                                    
associated 150 students that could be affected.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:20:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson looked  at  slide 6  and  observed that  the                                                                    
number of intensive needs students  had gone up. He asked if                                                                    
the district had been able to handle the challenge.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  relayed that mental  health needs of  students had                                                                    
also  gone  up, and  costs  had  increased drastically.  She                                                                    
relayed that  the district  was being  innovative in  how it                                                                    
was meeting the  needs of students. She noted  that three of                                                                    
the teachers from the Philippines  were certified in special                                                                    
education.  She cited  that all  of KIBSD  speech therapists                                                                    
were  remote, as  well  as some  physical  therapy and  some                                                                    
occupational therapy services.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:21:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop asked  if  the district  had  done any  data                                                                    
mining on the reason for  the sudden rise in intensive needs                                                                    
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika relayed that she had not done the research.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:21:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  noted  that every  school  district  had  a                                                                    
change  in intensive  needs enrollment.  He wondered  if the                                                                    
district's testing or diagnostics had changed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:22:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika discussed slide 7,  "Our Reality: Increased Costs,"                                                                    
which  showed   a  bar  graph  depicting   health  insurance                                                                    
increases over time and icons  depicting a rise in inflation                                                                    
and  energy   costs.  She   mentioned  that   insurance  was                                                                    
estimated to  go up 28 percent  in the next year.  She noted                                                                    
that Kodiak Electric  had notified of a  12 percent increase                                                                    
for  the  following  year,  primarily  due  to  the  cannery                                                                    
closure.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:22:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika referenced slide 8,  "Local Support History," which                                                                    
showed  a table  and  graph. She  relayed  that the  borough                                                                    
funded the district  at 95 percent in in FY  24. The borough                                                                    
had express not  to raise the mill rate due  to the changing                                                                    
economic  landscape  in  Kodiak.   The  districts   ask  the                                                                    
following  year would  be about  93 percent  of the  maximum                                                                    
allowable contribution.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:23:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika advanced  to slide  9, "FY  25 Reductions,"  which                                                                    
showed  two  tables.  She   highlighted  that  the  district                                                                    
anticipated  a  $7.2 million  deficit  going  into the  next                                                                    
year. She  continued that the  district had  identified $3.9                                                                    
million  in  reductions as  part  of  the  FY 25  budget  in                                                                    
staffing, services, and supplies.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  noted   that  Anchorage   had  declining                                                                    
enrollment and  multiple schools. He asked  how many schools                                                                    
that Kodiak would be closing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  cited that there  was one high school,  one middle                                                                    
school, and four elementary  schools. Analysis revealed that                                                                    
the district could  not close a school, but with  a few less                                                                    
students  there could  be  a  consolidation. She  identified                                                                    
that there was a committee  that would convene the following                                                                    
month that  would look  at a  consolidation beginning  in FY                                                                    
26.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  pondered that it was  harder to accomplish                                                                    
consolidation in communities with fewer schools.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:24:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  spoke to  slide 10,  "FY25 Expenses  by Function,                                                                     
which  showed  a pie  chart.  The  expenses were  after  the                                                                    
almost  $4 million  in cuts,  but  there would  still be  77                                                                    
percent of funds dedicated to  student instruction and about                                                                    
23 percent for district operations.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  showed slide 11,  "KIBSD Fund Balance,"  and noted                                                                    
that  the slide  showed a  snapshot of  the districts   fund                                                                    
balance in  the October audit  and showed the  year-end June                                                                    
30financials.   She  pointed   out  about   $7  million   in                                                                    
unassigned  fund  balance.  The  FY 24  current  budget  had                                                                    
dedicated  $2.5  million  of fund  balance  to  balance  the                                                                    
budget. There  was about $4.7 million  left unassigned going                                                                    
into the following year.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked what BSA  the district was  using to                                                                    
calculate the figures.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:25:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika  advanced  to  slide  12,  "Use  of  Fund  Balance                                                                    
Historical and  Future Pending BSA Increase,"  showing a bar                                                                    
graph  and a  table.   She explained  that there  were three                                                                    
scenarios shown on  the far right of the slide.  With no BSA                                                                    
increase,  KIBSD  would  have  to  use  an  additional  $3.5                                                                    
million of  the fund balance.  With a $300 BSA  increase, it                                                                    
would  have to  use $2.7  million  of the  fund balance.  An                                                                    
increase of $680 would require  the use of $1.1 million. She                                                                    
noted that the district was  cutting $3.9 million going into                                                                    
FY 25. With  a $680 increase to the BSA,  the district would                                                                    
have to cut another $3 million going into FY 26.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  Ms.   Mika  to  address  what  the                                                                    
district would  do to ensure  it remained liquid if  the BSA                                                                    
remained flat.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika  identified that the  district would have  to close                                                                    
schools,  raise   the  PTR,  and  make   further  cuts.  She                                                                    
described the scenario as a dire situation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  assumed the district  would have  to close                                                                    
an elementary school.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika affirmed  that it  was not  possible to  close the                                                                    
only high school or only junior high school.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  asked   Dr.  Mika   to  discuss   school                                                                    
transportation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Daws identified  that KIBSD was  in a  unique position                                                                    
with  pupil  transportation,  and   that  the  district  was                                                                    
maintaining  a  fund balance  of  about  $1 million  in  its                                                                    
transportation  fund. She  explained that  the district  was                                                                    
unable to hire  enough bus drivers or  contractors and would                                                                    
be using  all available state  funds if  it was to  hire for                                                                    
all  bus   routes.  She  detailed  that   the  district  had                                                                    
consolidated routes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:28:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Olson   asked   about  potentially   closing   an                                                                    
elementary school,  and whether  it would  be a  school from                                                                    
one of the outlying villages.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika answered  no,  and  relayed that the district would                                                                    
look at the town schools.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson shared  a concern that a closure  of a school                                                                    
would heavily impact a village.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson understood  that  KIBSD  had hiring  success                                                                    
with  international  teachers.  He asked  about  the  hiring                                                                    
efforts,  which  he thought  were  different  than in  other                                                                    
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mika explained that the  district was not using a hiring                                                                    
agency and had  travelled to the Philippines  to conduct job                                                                    
fairs. The  district was doing its  own applicant processing                                                                    
through  an  immigration  lawyer.  She  explained  that  the                                                                    
teachers preferred  H-1B visas  as a pathway  to immigration                                                                    
that  would also  provide stability  in  the workforce.  She                                                                    
noted that the  district had travelled to Manila  as well as                                                                    
a more rural, remote location  in Sebu City to find teachers                                                                    
that could better integrate into  rural Alaska. The district                                                                    
had screened about  243 candidates, 50 percent  of which met                                                                    
the standards.  She noted that  the district  primarily went                                                                    
because of  the special  education teacher shortage  and had                                                                    
invited another  district to come  along. Any  teachers that                                                                    
had met English and pedagogy  standards had been shared with                                                                    
the  teacher  application  system so  that  other  districts                                                                    
could benefit from KIBSDs recruitment efforts.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:31:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick  asked about the requirements  for retention                                                                    
bonuses.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mika  explained  that   all  staff  received  retention                                                                    
bonuses,  and certified  staff received  the  bonus in  June                                                                    
after  signing a  contract.  The bonus  was  $2,500 for  the                                                                    
current school  year. The classified  staff not  on contract                                                                    
received the  funds on  the first  paycheck in  September if                                                                    
they returned to their position.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:31:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  asked if the  district found  that retention                                                                    
bonuses were successful. He asked  how long the district had                                                                    
been giving the bonuses and  if it would continue should the                                                                    
funds be available.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Daws relayed that the  contract had started in 2024, and                                                                    
she felt that  the bonuses had been very  successful. It had                                                                    
been the first  time the bonuses were  offered to classified                                                                    
staff. The bonus was an agreement  that was given in lieu of                                                                    
a raise. She relayed that  the bonuses were well received by                                                                    
the classified staff and teachers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman relayed that  the legislature was concerned                                                                    
with  cannery closure  up and  down the  coast and  would be                                                                    
working on the matter over the next couple of years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:32:46 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:34:14 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  relayed  that   the  committee  would  be                                                                    
hearing from  the Northwest  Arctic Borough  School District                                                                    
(NABSD). He  stated that the  NABSD enrollment  was sideways                                                                    
relative to the ones that were advancing and declining.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:34:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TERRI  WALKER,  SUPERINTENDENT,   NORTHWEST  ARCTIC  BOROUGH                                                                    
SCHOOL DISTRICT, introduced herself.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN   WILLIAMS,  DIRECTOR   OF  ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES,                                                                    
NORTHWEST   ARCTIC  BOROUGH   SCHOOL  DISTRICT,   introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker discussed a  presentation entitled  NWABSD Senate                                                                    
Finance Presentation,   (copy on file). She  showed slide 2,                                                                    
"Student  Average Daily  Membership,  and  pointed out  that                                                                    
the  districts   enrollment  had   stayed  steady  over  the                                                                    
previous  ten  years.  In  FY  14 the  ADM  was  1,880,  and                                                                    
although it had fluctuated, in FY 24 it was also 1,880.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker addressed slide 3,   Budget Building Schedule and                                                                    
Preliminary Deficits:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     December/January of each year  Preliminary budget for                                                                      
     next year is drafted including negotiate staff salary                                                                      
     increases and projected fixed cost increases.                                                                              
     January/February        Administration    reviews   all                                                                    
     expenditures and revenues to make adjustments before                                                                       
     bringing a proposed budget and budget cuts to the                                                                          
     local School Board and Community                                                                                           
     March/April  Local School Board and community have                                                                         
     input on proposed budget and budget cuts.                                                                                  
     May 1st  Adopt Budget for next fiscal year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FY23 Preliminary Budget Deficit - $1,577,399                                                                               
     FY24 Preliminary Budget Deficit - $8,203,568                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     How we balanced the budgets:                                                                                               
     - Increase Class Sizes                                                                                                     
     - Reduced Student Activities                                                                                               
     - Donations & Grants                                                                                                       
     - ESSER                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FY25 Preliminary Budget Deficit - $14,090,189                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  highlighted that  in FY 23,  the district  had a                                                                    
budget  deficit  of $1.5  million.  In  FY 24,  the  deficit                                                                    
increased to $8.2 million. She  pointed out how the district                                                                    
had balanced  the budget the  previous year, and for  FY 25,                                                                    
there was a $14 million deficit.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:35:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker showed slide 4,  " FY24 Projected Budget and Year                                                                    
End  Fund Balance,   which showed  a table.  She highlighted                                                                    
that the  beginning of the year  fund balance for FY  24 was                                                                    
$9.9  million. The  projected end-of-year  fund balance  was                                                                    
$3.5 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:36:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  spoke to  slid 5,   FY24 Budget  Expenditures by                                                                    
Function, which showed a pie chart.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker showed  slide 6, "FY25 Preliminary  Budget & Year                                                                    
End Fund Balance,"  which showed a table. She cited  a FY 25                                                                    
beginning-of-year  fund  balance  of  $3.5  million,  and  a                                                                    
projected end-of-year fund balance deficit of $14 million.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  what BSA the district  was using for                                                                    
its calculations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Walker identified  that the  district used  the current                                                                    
BSA  of  $5,960 in  the  budget.  She  relayed that  if  the                                                                    
district received  a BSA increase  of 680 it would  add $5.1                                                                    
million to the budget, but  the district would still need to                                                                    
find $9 million to cover the deficit.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:37:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  spoke to slide  7, "Reason for  FY25 Preliminary                                                                    
Budget Deficit:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fixed Cost increases in FY24         30% Property &                                                                        
     Liability Insurance, 20% Heating Fuel                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FY25 Increases:                                                                                                            
          -$3.2 million - Increase in Salaries based on                                                                         
          collective bargaining agreements and additional                                                                       
          needed positions.                                                                                                     
          -$3.6 million  Budgeted use of fund balance from                                                                      
          FY24                                                                                                                  
          -$1.4 million - Decrease in Impact Aid funding                                                                        
          based on FY21 Impact Aid Review                                                                                       
          -$100k    Decrease in Indirect Revenue (ESSER                                                                         
          Funding)                                                                                                              
          -$4.5 million     Increase to Health Insurance                                                                        
          Program Costs  15%                                                                                                    
          -$1.2 million - Increase to Transfers out  Food                                                                       
          Service Program                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     FY25 Preliminary Budget Deficit - $14,090,189                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:37:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker showed slide 8,  "Summary of Unrestricted Capital                                                                    
Improvement  Project  Funds,"  which showed  at  table.  She                                                                    
discussed capital projects over  the previous few years, and                                                                    
highlighted  an  FY 22  fund  balance  of $3.26,  which  was                                                                    
currently down to $1.7 million.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:38:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Walker  showed  slide   10,  "Unexpected  FY24  Capital                                                                    
Improvement Costs & other needs":                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     1. Selawik Fire Panel ~ $750,000                                                                                           
     2. Noatak pump house ~ $344,600  Already in CIP funds                                                                      
     3. Freezeup in Selawik/Kotzebue/Deering/Kiana       No                                                                     
     current estimate                                                                                                           
     4. Buckland HVAC ~ $450,000 to complete project                                                                            
     5. Kobuk backup generator ~ $200,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     TOTAL ~ $1,400,000                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Unrestricted CIP fund balance = ~ $1.7 million                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Walker explained  that  several  villages had  outdated                                                                    
fire panels,  one of which  had quit working. The  board had                                                                    
prioritized  funding $750,000  for replacement  of the  non-                                                                    
working panel. She mentioned another  community that did not                                                                    
have a  backup generator.  She emphasized that  the district                                                                    
was spread  out over 39  square miles with 11  villages. She                                                                    
recounted that  every year the  city generator would  go out                                                                    
in a village, and the  elders and children would seek refuge                                                                    
in the school, which had  a backup generator. She emphasized                                                                    
that  the  schools  were  a   safe  place  during  times  of                                                                    
hazardous  events.  The school  without  a  generator was  a                                                                    
priority and would  cost closer to $350,000  rather than the                                                                    
$200,000 listed on the slide.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  referenced slide 9, "6  Year Capital Improvement                                                                    
Needs," which showed  a table. She discussed  the failure of                                                                    
the Noatak  pumphouse. The tank  had cracked and  required a                                                                    
$345,000 solution. She summarized  that the fund balance for                                                                    
capital projects had repeatedly been used for emergencies.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:40:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker advanced to slide 11:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Teacher Recruitment Efforts                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   40 out of 144 Teachers short beginning of FY24 ~ 28%                                                                         
     Recruiting year round                                                                                                      
     Contracting out for recruiting assistance                                                                                  
     Foreign Teachers ~ 40 Teachers                                                                                             
     Retiree Rehire - 1                                                                                                         
     Long Term Subs ~ 20 Teachers                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Transportation Funding                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Northwest  Arctic  Borough  School  District  currently                                                                    
     receives $27  per ADM  in transportation  funding, this                                                                    
     funding  covers  roughly  25% of  the  overall  program                                                                    
     cost.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     NWABSD would need $106 per ADM to fully fund Student                                                                       
     Transportation needs in Kivalina, where our school is                                                                      
     8 miles from the community.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  discussed the  hiring of  new teachers,  most of                                                                    
which were  from the Philippines.  She noted that 17  of the                                                                    
teachers had  come during winter  break due to  vacancies in                                                                    
the  classrooms. She  mentioned  the Alaska  Reads Act.  She                                                                    
discussed  teachers  expanding  their  work  to  accommodate                                                                    
vacancies. She  discussed transportation, which was  only in                                                                    
the  Kivilina   School  located  eight  miles   outside  the                                                                    
community. The  route was about  an hour round-trip  by bus.                                                                    
She  cited that  the district  currently received  about $27                                                                    
per ADM,  and it would need  $106 per ADM to  fully fund the                                                                    
transportation to for Kivilina.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:42:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick  asked how the salary  for Filipino teachers                                                                    
compared to what they would make in the Philippines.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  relayed that she  was told that the  teachers in                                                                    
from the Philippines  received a large increase  in pay when                                                                    
working in Alaska. She was  unsure of the amount and offered                                                                    
to get back to the committee with more information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:43:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson asked  if  the  international teachers  were                                                                    
bringing children when they relocated.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  answered affirmatively. She noted  that teachers                                                                    
thought   brought   children    increased   the   districts                                                                     
enrollment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked who paid for the increase.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Walker  relayed  that  the   teachers  paid  for  their                                                                    
children, however the district had  to pay for the teachers.                                                                    
The cost was about $20,000 per teacher.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:44:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker addressed  slide 12, "What happens  if funding is                                                                    
flat?":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     If  funding  is flat,  NWABSD  will  have to  find  $14                                                                    
     million  of  expenditures  to   cut,  20%  of  NWABSD's                                                                    
     General Operating Budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Without  a BSA  increase  of $680,  our District  would                                                                    
     have to  close buildings, furlough employees,  cut meal                                                                    
     program  completely, cut  all  student activities,  cut                                                                    
     student transportation, and all reductions below.                                                                          
     With an increase to the  BSA of $680, the District will                                                                    
     still have to do the                                                                                                       
     following:                                                                                                                 
     - Increase Classroom sizes                                                                                                 
     - Increasing number of grade levels/classroom                                                                              
     -  Increasing number  of concurrent  courses taught  by                                                                    
     one teacher within one class hour                                                                                          
     - Reduce Counseling & CTE Programs                                                                                         
   - Reduce Professional Development offerings and staff                                                                        
     - Reduce Student Activities                                                                                                
     - Reduce community use of School Buildings                                                                                 
     - Reduce Meal Program                                                                                                      
     - Reduction in Health Insurance Program for Staff                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker explained that there  was no way to close schools                                                                    
(which  were Pre-K  through 12th  grade) that  functioned as                                                                    
the school for  a whole community. The district  was a Title                                                                    
1 district,  and over 80  percent of the  students qualified                                                                    
for meals. She noted that  the district subsidized over $1.2                                                                    
million above the U.S. Department  of Agriculture subsidy to                                                                    
feed students.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson asked  to  touch on  the  topic of  deferred                                                                    
maintenance. He referenced  horrific   slides shown by other                                                                    
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker relayed that in the  past there had always been a                                                                    
fund  balance  to move  into  deferred  maintenance to  help                                                                    
communities. The  district had  been saving what  little was                                                                    
available for  emergency situations. She mentioned  a school                                                                    
that had a  classroom that was unable to be  heated above 50                                                                    
degrees,  and it  was necessary  to have  class in  the gym.                                                                    
Several schools  had outdated heating controls  and outdated                                                                    
fire panels.  She discussed  teacher housing  and referenced                                                                    
rotten floors. She mentioned that  schools had tiles stapled                                                                    
to the floor for stability.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  asked  about   special  needs  students  in                                                                    
villages   and  asked   about   students  with   significant                                                                    
disabilities.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Walker  relayed   that   the   district  sourced   out                                                                    
specialists  for PT  and OT,  and the  professionals had  to                                                                    
travel  to the  village twice  per year.  The students  were                                                                    
also served  via online access. She  emphasized that special                                                                    
needs students  were prioritized and were  very important to                                                                    
the district.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:47:32 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:48:30 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman relayed that  the committee would hear from                                                                    
the Ketchikan School District.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:48:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL ROBBINS,  SUPERINTENDENT, KETCHIKAN  GATEWAY BOROUGH                                                                    
SCHOOL DISTRICT  (KGBSD), showed a school  fund balance data                                                                    
sheet (copy  on file)  and commented  that the  district had                                                                    
started the  year with  no fund balance.  He noted  that the                                                                    
district had a  negative fund balance the  previous year. He                                                                    
thought that  without an increase  to the BSA,  his district                                                                    
would be in the same  position as the other school districts                                                                    
that had  presented.  He identified  that although Ketchikan                                                                    
had seen declining enrollment over  the previous decade, the                                                                    
BSA did  not increase, and the  district had to cut  over 12                                                                    
percent of its employees the  previous year. The cut equated                                                                    
to over  50 employees  including district  office employees,                                                                    
maintenance,    teachers,   paraeducators,    administrative                                                                    
assistants, and IT staff.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins noted that there  had been a 14 percent increase                                                                    
in health  insurance, which equated  to $1.1 million  on top                                                                    
of the $8.9 million the  district currently paid. There were                                                                    
increases  in technology,  special  education. He  mentioned                                                                    
preventative maintenance  the district was unable  to do. He                                                                    
mentioned  increased   class  sizes  and  an   inability  to                                                                    
maintain the  districts  academic  program. He  continued to                                                                    
discuss  budget  challenges,  including  cutting  Pre-K.  He                                                                    
emphasized  the importance  of Pre-K,  which was  correlated                                                                    
with higher graduation rates.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins  relayed  that KGBSD  would  request  that  the                                                                    
borough fund  at 100 percent  of the  funding cap due  to an                                                                    
increase   in  special   education   staffing  and   federal                                                                    
requirements  for  individual  education  plans.  He  listed                                                                    
additional increases  in maintenance, shipping,  and energy.                                                                    
He noted that  89 percent of the budget  was personnel fixed                                                                    
costs, so when  cuts were made it  had to be a  cut to staff                                                                    
at all  levels. He discussed increased  expenditures for the                                                                    
following year, driven  by an increase to  healthcare of 4.5                                                                    
to 6 percent.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:51:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  if  the  district   put  unfunded                                                                    
positions in its budget as Anchorage did.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins  answered in the  negative and relayed  that the                                                                    
district had budgeted  in the current year using  a $100 BSA                                                                    
increase.  The district  had tried  to make  staffing levels                                                                    
reflect exactly what  was needed. The district  was going to                                                                    
the borough for a greater  allocation was due to an increase                                                                    
in  students  that  needed special  education  services.  In                                                                    
order to  stay in  compliance with federal  regulations, the                                                                    
district had to add positions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about  a $100  addition to  the BSA,                                                                    
and what BSA number the district was using.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins  relayed that the  district was using  the $340,                                                                    
and there was $240 left on the BSA cap from the borough.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if the  $100 was in addition  to the                                                                    
current years funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins answered affirmatively.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  discussed the  BSA, which was  a statutory                                                                    
formula, and clarified  that outside funding also  had to be                                                                    
run through the formula.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:53:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  asked about  the  current  amount the  city                                                                    
funded and if the city funded to the cap the previous year.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins relayed that the  district was funded to the cap                                                                    
the previous year  for the first time in about  20 years. In                                                                    
the current year there was a gap of about $1.7 million.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr. Robbins to  discuss fund balance                                                                    
carry-overs  and whether  there  was a  different  cap on  a                                                                    
local level.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins explained  that the  district did  not have  an                                                                    
unassigned  fund balance.  He  noted that  the district  did                                                                    
have a  transportation fund balance. He  emphasized that the                                                                    
district  was operating   hand  to mouth,   and  with a  $49                                                                    
million  budget  and as  one  of  the largest  employers  in                                                                    
Southeast Alaska it  was very difficult to  run the district                                                                    
without any fund balance.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if the  district  had already  done                                                                    
reductions in staffing levels.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins  answered  affirmatively  and  noted  that  the                                                                    
district  had reduced  employees  by about  12 percent.  The                                                                    
reduction in students was only around 3 to 4 percent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  the population  of Ketchikan  was                                                                    
down about 20  percent in the current  century. He mentioned                                                                    
that  the populations  of Sitka  and Ketchikan  were roughly                                                                    
down  about 30  percent in  the same  time period.  He noted                                                                    
that the committee had chosen  the district out of Southeast                                                                    
to present because it had already completed reductions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins answered, "Yes."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  Mr.  Robbins  to discuss  potential                                                                    
school closures if there was  continued erosion of headcount                                                                    
numbers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins  relayed that that  there was  one comprehensive                                                                    
high school and  one alternative high school.  There was one                                                                    
middle  school, three  elementary schools,  and two  charter                                                                    
schools in the district. He  explained that closing a school                                                                    
would be  difficult based on  the numbers. He  pondered that                                                                    
it could  be possible to  consolidate to have a  school with                                                                    
Pre-K through 3rd grade, and  a school with grades 4 through                                                                    
6. He thought without such  a consolidation, the class sizes                                                                    
would be too large.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  added that he would  like school districts                                                                    
to   provide  information   on  any   labor  contracts   and                                                                    
agreements in  the following two  to three years  that might                                                                    
add to overhead.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins relayed  that when  considering the  budget for                                                                    
the  following school  year, the  district did  not consider                                                                    
added  items  outside  of the  academic  program.  He  cited                                                                    
contract   step  extensions,   a  $1.1   million  healthcare                                                                    
increase,   a  preventative   maintenance   budget,  and   a                                                                    
technology budget. He thought  the district was right-sized,                                                                    
but  suggested that  if there  was no  BSA increase,  one or                                                                    
some of the items would have  to be cut or class sizes would                                                                    
have to be increased.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:57:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about where  the district  would be                                                                    
with a $340 BSA increase and a status quo budget.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins estimated that the  district would be about $1.8                                                                    
million to $1.9 million short.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  how the  district would  handle the                                                                    
deficit without a fund balance.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins relayed that the  district would have to look at                                                                    
cuts to  staffing, class sizes,  preschool, music,  PE, art,                                                                    
and things  that were  not part of  the core  curriculum. He                                                                    
emphasized that  the items  he listed  were the  things that                                                                    
kept kids  in school. He  thought music was the  reason that                                                                    
many  kids  went to  school.  He  emphasized CTE  and  other                                                                    
things that helped students get jobs after graduation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:59:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  asked  if KGBSD  had  a  teacher  retention                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins  identified that there  was a  teacher retention                                                                    
program for  teachers that  were in the  first four  to five                                                                    
years. He noted that the  district had many veteran teachers                                                                    
that  had  been  with  the  district for  a  long  time.  He                                                                    
stressed that it was almost  impossible to keep new teachers                                                                    
that  would replace  veteran teachers  after retirement.  He                                                                    
reasoned that teachers were migrating  to the Lower 48 after                                                                    
a few  years due to  the states  retirement system  and lack                                                                    
of a defined  benefit option. He lamented losing  one of his                                                                    
best directors based on retirement  system factors.  He felt                                                                    
strongly that  the retirement  option made  it hard  to keep                                                                    
talented teachers for the long term.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked is salaries were a factor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Robbins thought  the KGBSD salaries were  close to those                                                                    
in Washington. He  noted that when he was in  Toksook Bay, a                                                                    
much higher  salary schedule was  necessary due to  the high                                                                    
cost of living and the cost  of relocating.  He thought with                                                                    
an  increased  BSA,  teacher  salaries  could  increase.  He                                                                    
discussed   the   challenge   of   finding   and   retaining                                                                    
paraeducators  and  losing  the  employees  to  the  tourism                                                                    
industry jobs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about teacher housing.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins conveyed  that there  were tremendous  problems                                                                    
with teacher housing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:01:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson referenced  the  governor's  proposal for  a                                                                    
teacher retention bonus.  He asked if Mr.  Robbins wanted to                                                                    
comment  on  the  proposal  and  what it  would  do  to  his                                                                    
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Robbins  thought  that  a  retention  bonus  should  be                                                                    
available for  anyone that impacted  students in  school. He                                                                    
emphasized  that  caring  adults   made  the  difference  in                                                                    
students'  lives and  could  be a  cook,  custodian, or  any                                                                    
educator. He  thought all caring  adults in the  school were                                                                    
educators and should be rewarded.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the  agenda  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
11:04:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:04 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
030524 NWABSD Fund Balance Presentation.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Ketchikan GatewayBorough School District Fund Balance Presentation to SFC.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Matanuska-Susitna Borough School District Fund Balance Data.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Mat-Su Superintendent Report for SFC.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 NWABSD Fund Balance Data.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Ketchikan Gateway Borough School District Fund Balance Data.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Anchorage School District Fund Balance Data .pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Kodiak Island Borough School District Fund Balance Data (2).pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Kuspuk School District Fund Balance Data.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Kodiak Island Borough School District Fund Balance Presentation for SFC.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Kuspuk School District - REAA #5 Fund Balance Presentation for SFC.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 Anchorage School District Fund Balance SFC Presentation.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fund Balance
030524 ACSA School District Fund Balance and Budget Presentation for SFC.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM
School District Fuind Balance
030524 Alaska School District Local Government Fund Balance Explainer42.pdf SFIN 3/5/2024 9:00:00 AM