Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/26/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:05 AM Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation
10:36:52 AM Adjourn
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 26, 2024                                                                                           
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:01:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ethan   Shutt,   Board    Chair,   Alaska   Permanent   Fund                                                                    
Corporation;  Deven  Mitchel,   Executive  Director,  Alaska                                                                    
Permanent   Fund   Corporation;   Marcus   Frampton,   Chief                                                                    
Investment  Officer,  Alaska   Permanent  Fund  Corporation;                                                                    
Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA PERMANENT FUND CORPORATION                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ETHAN   SHUTT,   BOARD    CHAIR,   ALASKA   PERMANENT   FUND                                                                    
CORPORATION, (APFC) introduced himself.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN  MITCHEL, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ALASKA PERMANENT  FUND                                                                    
CORPORATION,  discussed  the presentation,  "Senate  Finance                                                                    
Committee  Alaska  Permanent  Fund January  2024"  (copy  on                                                                    
file). He highlighted slide 2, "Assets Under Management":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mission                                                                                                                    
     To manage and  invest the assets of  the Permanent Fund                                                                    
     and other  funds designated by  law in  accordance with                                                                    
     AS 37.13.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Vision                                                                                                                     
     To deliver  outstanding returns for the  benefit of all                                                                    
     current and future generations of Alaskans.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fiduciaries                                                                                                                
     The Board  of Trustees  has a duty  to ensure  that the                                                                    
     Fund  is managed  and invested  in a  manner consistent                                                                    
     with constitutional  and statutory  mandates, including                                                                    
     the Prudent Investor Rule.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Invested Under the Same Asset Allocation                                                                                   
     Total Fund Portfolio Performance                                                                                           
     Monthly Financial Reconciliation of Accounts                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Permanent Fund                                                                                                      
     Principal - Constitution and AS 37.13.010                                                                                  
     Earnings Reserve Account - AS 37.13.145 (a)                                                                                
     Savings - Income Producing  Investments - Annual Value-                                                                    
     Based Distribution                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Amerada Hess Settlement - AS 37.13.145 (d)                                                                                 
     $424.4 million from  1977 royalty disputes, ring-fenced                                                                    
     within Principal                                                                                                           
     Earnings  for appropriation  to the  AK Capital  Income                                                                    
     Fund AS 37.05.565                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Mental Health Trust Fund - AS 37.13.300                                                                             
     $727.3 million invested on behalf  of the Alaska Mental                                                                    
     Health Trust Authority                                                                                                     
     Deposits and Withdrawals managed by AMHTA                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost Equalization Endowment - AS 42.45.080 (a)                                                                       
     $957.1  million invested  on behalf  of the  Power Cost                                                                    
     Equalization Program                                                                                                       
     Annual  value   and  earnings-based   distributions  by                                                                    
     appropriation  with  program   management  through  the                                                                    
     Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt pointed to slide 3, "Legacy Of Intergenerational                                                                      
Resource Contribution":                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As  a public  endowment,  the wealth  of the  Permanent                                                                    
     Fund is the responsibility of every Alaskan.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Together,  we  are obligated  to  protect  it for  both                                                                    
     today and tomorrow.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Constitution Article IX, Section 15                                                                                 
     Alaska Permanent Fund                                                                                                      
     At  least  twenty-five  percent of  all  mineral  lease                                                                    
     rentals,  royalties,  royalty  sale  proceeds,  federal                                                                    
     mineral revenue  sharing payments and  bonuses received                                                                    
     by the state  shall be placed in a  permanent fund, the                                                                    
     principal  of  which  shall  be  used  only  for  those                                                                    
     income-producing  investments  specifically  designated                                                                    
     by law as eligible  for permanent fund investments. All                                                                    
     income from  the permanent fund  shall be  deposited in                                                                    
    the general fund unless otherwise provided by law.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt addressed slide 4, "Fiduciary Duties":                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AS 37.13.120                                                                                                               
     Duty of Prudence                                                                                                           
     Duty of Loyalty                                                                                                            
     Duty to Diversify                                                                                                          
     Duty of Impartiality                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     APFC  operates as  a separate  state  entity under  the                                                                    
     oversight  of  an  independent Board  of  Trustees  who                                                                    
     serve as the Fund fiduciaries.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Honoring The Past                                                                                                          
     Upholding  the vision  and sacrifices  of the  Alaskans                                                                    
     who   created  the   Fund   with  enduring   leadership                                                                    
     committed to intergenerational benefit.                                                                                    
     Renewable Financial Resources from Mineral Royalties                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Stewardship                                                                                                                
     Protecting  the  Principal  and  maximizing  investment                                                                    
     returns  for   the  benefit   of  current   and  future                                                                    
     generations of Alaskans.                                                                                                   
     Through Dynamic Market Conditions                                                                                          
     With A Long-term Investment Horizon                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Public Accountability                                                                                                      
     Continuously  earning  the  public's  trust  through  a                                                                    
     commitment    to   accountability    by   demonstrating                                                                    
     competence,  reliability,  and   honesty  in  open  and                                                                    
     responsive communication.                                                                                                  
     Financial Controls and Regular Reporting                                                                                   
     Open Meeting Act and Records Disclosures                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt displayed slide 5, "Updated Strategic Plan":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Building  an Organization  that Sets  the Standard  for                                                                    
     Endowment-Style Sovereign Wealth Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Grow the Fund to  $100 Billion Consideration of Limited                                                                    
     Leverage,  Alpha   Outperformance,  Asset   Class  Goal                                                                    
     Alignment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Improve Corporate Functionality  Executive Director and                                                                    
     Chief Investment  Officer Recruitment, Key  Person Risk                                                                    
     and  Incentive  Compensation,  Evaluation  of  Location                                                                    
     Expansion, Data Management Capability                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Advance   Comprehensive  Communications   Plan  Instate                                                                    
     Education  and Awareness,  Nationwide and  Global Focus                                                                    
     In Support of Investment Management                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Review and  Assess the Optimal Structure  of the Alaska                                                                    
     Permanent  Fund  Rules-based  Endowment  Practices  and                                                                    
     Modernization                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:17:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked about the  perceived split  between the                                                                    
team was improving the problem.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt replied  that it was a focus of  the leadership to                                                                    
do things  to ensure  that the  employees were  considered a                                                                    
member of one team.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  wanted  to learn  more  about  the  positive                                                                    
impact  on the  change, because  history showed  a very  low                                                                    
employee turnover.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt noted that the  evaluation had not occurred on the                                                                    
impact. He remarked  that he was skeptical  about an outside                                                                    
office, and felt that there would be real consequences.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  wondered whether  there was a  timeline with                                                                    
benchmarks on the office decision.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt replied  that letting the structure run  for a few                                                                    
years  would  impact  the  decision, but  there  was  not  a                                                                    
current timeline on the decision.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that there  were some  inquiries to                                                                    
committee members,  which resulted  in some  caution because                                                                    
there was a lack of  process in the decision making process.                                                                    
He wondered  whether there would  be a salary  reduction for                                                                    
those that were moving to Anchorage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Shutt replied that he did not believe so.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:30:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  made a frying  fish analogy.  He expressed                                                                    
appreciation that  added leverage  had not been  pursued and                                                                    
highlighted  the  committee's  concern  for  cash  flow.  He                                                                    
feared   underperformance   of   the   fund.   He   lamented                                                                    
constraints on the revenue side of the scale.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:34:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Schutt   addressed  slide  6,   "Proposed  Legislation;                                                                    
Seeking Amendments to Improve Corporate Functionality":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Amend Existing Law to                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Protect from public records  disclosure the identity of                                                                    
     all candidates who would like  to be considered for the                                                                    
     positions  of Executive  Director and  Chief Investment                                                                    
     Officer;                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Provide the  Board with the authority  to interview the                                                                    
     finalists for  the positions of Executive  Director and                                                                    
     Chief Investment Officer in an executive session;                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Provide  for the  confidentiality of  personnel records                                                                    
     of all APFC staff.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 37.13.100 Corporation Staff.                                                                                          
     The board  may employ and  determine the salary  of the                                                                    
     executive   director.  The   list  of   applicants  and                                                                    
     information regarding  the applicants for  the position                                                                    
     of  executive director  is confidential  and  is not  a                                                                    
     public  record, and  the board  may  meet in  executive                                                                    
     session for the purpose  of interviewing candidates for                                                                    
     the position of  executive director notwithstanding any                                                                    
     other provision  of law to the  contrary. The executive                                                                    
     director may,  with the approval  of the  board, select                                                                    
     and employ  additional staff as necessary.  An employee                                                                    
     of the  corporation, including the  executive director,                                                                    
     may  not  be  a  member of  the  board.  The  executive                                                                    
     director and  the other employees  of the board  are in                                                                    
     the  exempt  service under  AS  39.25.  Except for  the                                                                    
     information described  in AS 39.25.080(b)(1)   (7), the                                                                    
     personnel records  of the executive director  and other                                                                    
     employees  of  the  corporation,  including  employment                                                                    
     applications  and  examinations  and  other  assessment                                                                    
     materials,  are  confidential  and  are  not  open  for                                                                    
     public inspection.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Schutt  expressed   that   conducting  interviews   in                                                                    
executive session  would lead to more  honest and meaningful                                                                    
interviews because people could speak freely.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl questioned the  interviewing and evaluation of                                                                    
chief staff.  He expressed concern  with the secrecy  of the                                                                    
board as  of late. He  believed that the public  fund should                                                                    
have  transparency. He  posited  that the  board might  hold                                                                    
meetings out of state to avoid the public meetings act.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schutt  did not believe  that the board would  behave as                                                                    
Senator Kiehl had suggested.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schutt pointed to slide 7, "Investing for Long Term":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Legislature's   findings  for   the   purpose  of   the                                                                    
     Permanent Fund in AS 37.13.020,                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          .notdefthe fund should provide a means of conserving a                                                              
          portion  of  the   state's  revenue  from  mineral                                                                    
          resources to benefit all generations of Alaskans;                                                                     
          .notdefthe fund's goal should be to maintain safety of                                                              
         principal while maximizing total return;                                                                               
          .notdefthe fund should be used as a savings device                                                                  
          managed to allow the maximum use of disposable                                                                        
          income from the fund for purposes designated by                                                                       
          law.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The Board's  objective for  the Fund,  as set  forth in                                                                    
     the Investment Policy,                                                                                                     
          .notdefAchieve the highest level of performance within                                                              
          the investment responsibilities of AS 37.13.120                                                                       
          and a long-term investment perspective based on                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Investment Performance                                                                                                     
     Ability to  generate an annualized return  of inflation                                                                    
     (CPI)  + 5  percent  over a  10-year period  (long-term                                                                    
     target).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Investment Risk                                                                                                            
     Ability  of the  Fund to  achieve the  long-term target                                                                    
     while conforming to the  Board's approved risk appetite                                                                    
     metric.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:40:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell pointed to slide 9, "Diversification":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     APFC seeks  to balance the goals  of maximizing returns                                                                    
     and minimizing risks.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Risk Management                                                                                                            
     The goal  of risk management  is not to avoid  risk but                                                                    
     to identify,  understand, and  manage it  to acceptable                                                                    
     levels.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell suggested that Alaska had the most                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the different structure of the 5                                                                     
percent draw rate.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell spoke  of modern endowments and  the percent of                                                                    
market  value   based  on  structure.   He  said   that  the                                                                    
underlying  framework  created a  cash  crunch  that led  to                                                                    
liquidity issues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:45:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell addressed slide 10, "Renewable Financial                                                                           
Resource inception through December 2023":                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Savings                                                                                                                    
     Since the First Royalty Deposit of $734 thousand                                                                           
     The Principal  has grown to $56.7  billion of permanent                                                                    
     deposits.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Income Producing                                                                                                           
     Realized   Earnings  have   totaled  more   than  $85.4                                                                    
     billion.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Earnings                                                                                                                   
     Dividend Draws through FY18 $24.4 B                                                                                        
     Percent of Market Value Draws FY19-FY24 $19.0 B                                                                            
     Inflation Proofing Principal $23.6 B                                                                                       
     ERA Special Appropriations to Principal $12.3 B                                                                            
     Alaska Capital Income  Amerada Hess $0.5B                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell discussed the enhanced use of the fund by the                                                                      
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell highlighted slide 11, "Savings, Principal                                                                          
Contributions - Inception through FY 24 Projected":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     $19.5 Billion Royalty Deposits                                                                                             
     AS 37.13.010 (a) (1) and (a) (2)                                                                                           
     25  percent   of  constitutionally   dedicated  royalty                                                                    
     proceeds  and   50  percent  of   statutorily  mandated                                                                    
     deposits for leases after 1979.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     $15.0 Billion Special Appropriations                                                                                       
     AS 37.13.010 (a) (3)                                                                                                       
     Legislative deposits  from the General Fund  $2.7 B and                                                                    
     the ERA $12.3 B.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     $23.6 Billion Inflation Proofing                                                                                           
     AS 37.13.145 (c)                                                                                                           
     Principal  deposits   are  adjusted  annually   by  the                                                                    
     inflation rate  as calculated per statute  and based on                                                                    
     appropriation.                                                                                                             
     Inflation Proofing FY 16-24                                                                                                
     Owed = $12.6 B                                                                                                             
     Appropriated $11.3 B*                                                                                                      
     *includes the FY20 special appropriation  of $4.0 B per                                                                    
     intent language, but not FY22.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:49:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that inflation did not erode the                                                                      
state's purchasing power.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  highlighted slide 12, "Producing  Income, Two-                                                                    
Account Fund Structure":                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The Principal is constitutionally established for                                                                          
     permanent savings to be used only for income-producing                                                                     
     investments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The   Earnings    Reserve   Account    is   statutorily                                                                    
     established to hold investment net income and be                                                                           
     available for appropriation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered about the real estate sales.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell remarked  that the  real estate  portfolio was                                                                    
growing,  but  was  not  a  strong  generator  of  statutory                                                                    
incomes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  discussed slide 13, "Earnings  Reserve Account                                                                    
(ERA), Deposits  and Withdrawals,  in millions,  Fiscal Year                                                                    
2014- 2023."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:56:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  pointed  to   slide  14,  "Revenue  Stability                                                                    
Supporting the State's General Fund Revenue."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  discussed  slide   15,  "FUND  Values  as  of                                                                    
December 31, 2023."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell displayed 16, "10 Year Annualized Returns."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:02:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked about  the  impact  of a  potential                                                                    
decrease in oil  prices, and how to assist the  state in its                                                                    
financial obligations.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell responded  that the  state  had fewer  options                                                                    
that  it did  in  2014.  He remarked  that  there were  also                                                                    
concerns about  the Permanent Fund's ability  to provide for                                                                    
the state's needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:05:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  surmised that an overdraw  would result in                                                                    
more risk exposure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  recalled that the  state does not  often allow                                                                    
for a  drain effect. He  stated that  it was reliant  on the                                                                    
leadership to  recognize the deficiencies. He  stressed that                                                                    
overdrawing would  result in an eventual  elimination of the                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman surmised that it would cease to exist.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:07:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARCUS FRAMPTON, CHIEF  INVESTMENT OFFICER, ALASKA PERMANENT                                                                    
FUND CORPORATION, continued to highlight slide 16.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton highlighted  slide  18,  "Fund Performance  vs                                                                    
Benchmarks."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton  addressed  slide  19,  "Focus  on  Increasing                                                                    
Internal Management":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Strategies brought in-house since 2013                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •2013    Private market co-investments and direct                                                                          
     investments                                                                                                                
     •2014  Internal tactical equities                                                                                          
     •2015  Hedge fund-of-fund management                                                                                       
     •2018  High yield bonds                                                                                                    
     •2020  Real estate directly managed properties                                                                             
     •2021  Internal factor equities                                                                                            
     •2022  All of fixed income                                                                                                 
     •2023  In-process International Equities                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:14:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  wondered where the  private equities  were in                                                                    
the timeframe.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton  replied that  private  equity  had a  mix  of                                                                    
internal and external managers.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Frampton discussed slide  20, "APFC Performance Relative                                                                    
to Large Public Funds."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton pointed  to slide  21,  "Tenured and  Seasoned                                                                    
Investment Leadership Leaders of  APFC's major asset classes                                                                    
have substantial industry experience and tenure with APFC."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:19:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop wondered  whether there  was   trend on  the                                                                    
exit surveys.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell replied that there  was a variety of reasons of                                                                    
those that left the firm.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton discussed  slide 22,  "Permanent Fund  Balance                                                                    
Sheet as of December 31, 2023, in millions."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Frampton pointed to slide 23, "Statutory Net Income                                                                         
History and Projections."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:25:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Frampton addressed  slide 24,  "Baseline Statutory  Net                                                                    
Income."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell highlighted slide 25,  "Realized Gains by Asset                                                                    
Class (2012 Present)."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Frampton  displayed slide 26, "How  Available Unrealized                                                                    
Gains Were Realized."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Frampton discussed slide 27, "Consistent Discipline":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     .notdefRecognizing the savings function established in the                                                               
     Constitution  ensures that  a  portion  of our  mineral                                                                    
     wealth is  saved and invested to  benefit all Alaskans,                                                                    
     today and tomorrow.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     .notdefProtecting the Principal and maximizing a long-term                                                               
    risk-adjusted return for intergenerational benefit.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     .notdefProviding stewardship to ensure the Fund can provide                                                              
     for all generations. The Board  of Trustees has been on                                                                    
     record for  more than 20  years to transition  the Fund                                                                    
     from its  current two-account  system to  a one-unified                                                                    
     account system  with a constitutional  distribution for                                                                    
     enduring sustainability and benefit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:30:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that the instate investment                                                                           
issues would be discussed at a later date. He also wanted                                                                       
to examine the issue of the new board members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  thanked the testifiers. He  pointed out that                                                                    
the  picture on  the last  slide "started  it all."  He felt                                                                    
that there  should be a tour  of Prudhoe Bay to  see the oil                                                                    
field production that feeds the fund.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed housekeeping.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:36:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:36 a.m.                                                                                         

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