Legislature(2009 - 2010)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/20/2009 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:11:44 AM Presentation: Joint with Senate Education Committee
09:52:49 AM Adjourn
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Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety Commission
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                  SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                     February 20, 2009                                                                                          
                         9:07 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:07:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:07 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
John  L. Aho,  Ph. D.,  Sc.D.,  Chair of  the Alaska  Seismic                                                                   
Hazards Safety Commission.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Joint with Senate Education Committee                                                                            
     Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety Commission by Dr. John                                                                       
     Aho, Chair of the Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety                                                                            
     Commission.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman introduced  Senator Elton  as chair  of the                                                                   
education  committee. He  stated the  purpose of the  meeting                                                                   
was to hear  a presentation from  Dr. John Aho of  the Alaska                                                                   
Seismic  Hazards   Safety  Commission.  The   commission  was                                                                   
created by  the Legislature  in 2002  to recommend  goals for                                                                   
seismic risk  mitigation and policies  to reduce  the state's                                                                   
vulnerability in  earthquakes. The subject of  earthquakes is                                                                   
considered each year during the budget process.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  L. AHO,  PH. D.,  SC.D.,  CHAIR OF  THE ALASKA  SEISMIC                                                                   
HAZARDS  SAFETY COMMISSION,  informed  that he  was born  and                                                                   
raised in Anchorage.  He announced that he held  a Ph.D. from                                                                   
Cornell University  in aerospace engineering. He  stated that                                                                   
he chairs the  Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety  Commission. The                                                                   
presentation  has an  emphasis on the  commission's  focus on                                                                   
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:11:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Aho noted that Alaska experiences  large earthquakes each                                                                   
year  with  potential for  damage  in  both urban  and  rural                                                                   
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho began  with  a  PowerPoint  summary of  the  Seismic                                                                   
Commission, "A  Look at Current  Activities With  an Emphasis                                                                   
on   Schools."   (Copy  on   File).   Slide   1  includes   a                                                                   
"Presentation Summary."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · A brief history of the Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety                                                                       
     Commission (ASHSC)                                                                                                         
   · ASHSC  standing committees (with an emphasis on                                                                            
     schools)                                                                                                                   
   · An historic perspective of school failures and a look                                                                      
     at resultant mitigation legislation.                                                                                       
   · An Alaskan communities' experience                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:16:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho discussed the "History of ASHSC" (Slide 2):                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · HB 53 established ASHSC in 2002                                                                                            
   · 11 members                                                                                                                 
   · Policy Recommendations                                                                                                     
   · ASHSC Goals                                                                                                                
   · Standing Goals                                                                                                             
   · Standing Committees                                                                                                        
   · Administered by DNR                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho  discussed  hazard  versus risk  with  the  goal  of                                                                   
mitigating potential  risks. The commission has  250 years of                                                                   
combined experience  in the area of seismic  risk mitigation.                                                                   
He  defined hazard  as the  expected occurrence  of a  future                                                                   
event and  risk as  the expected  consequence of that  event.                                                                   
The hazard always exists, but  the risk changes substantially                                                                   
due to additional  population and infrastructure.  The effort                                                                   
of ASHSC is to mitigate that potential risk.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho discussed "ASHSC Standing Committees" (Slide 3):                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Insurance                                                                                                                  
   · Schools                                                                                                                    
   · Earthquake Scenarios                                                                                                       
   · Education and outreach                                                                                                     
   · Hazards Identification                                                                                                     
   · Response, Recovery, and loss estimation                                                                                    
   · Post-earthquake planning                                                                                                   
   · Partnership                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho specified  the importance of identifying  fault lines                                                                   
and potential  hazards. These fault lines must  be identified                                                                   
before Alaska runs the gas pipeline.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho discussed the "Schools Committee Tasks," (Slide 3):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Identify previously accomplished work                                                                                      
   · Identify legislation affecting design and construction                                                                     
   · Examine current plan review/inspection procedures                                                                          
   · Examine Code provisions relating to schools                                                                                
   · Identify seismically at-risk facilities                                                                                    
   · Identify and interview stakeholders                                                                                        
   · Develop conclusions/recommendations and way forward                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho  referred to  "Earthquakes in  Alaska" (map),  (Slide                                                                   
4):                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Earthquake risk is high in  much of the southern half of                                                                   
     Alaska,  but it  is not  the same  everywhere. This  map                                                                   
     shows  the  overall  geologic  setting  in  Alaska  that                                                                   
     produces  earthquakes. The  Pacific plate (darker  blue)                                                                   
     is sliding  northwestward  past southeastern Alaska  and                                                                   
     then  dives  beneath  the North  American  plate  (light                                                                   
     blue, green  and brown) in  southern Alaska,  the Alaska                                                                   
     Peninsula  and the  Aleutian  Islands. Most  earthquakes                                                                   
     are produced  where these  two plates come  into contact                                                                   
     and slide past each other.  Major earthquakes also occur                                                                   
     throughout  much  of  interior  Alaska as  a  result  of                                                                   
     stresses generated at the plate boundary.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:24:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked about  the  slip rate  in  Southeast                                                                   
Alaska. Dr. Aho answered that  there were two inches per year                                                                   
of slip rate in Southeast Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Gary  Stevens   requested   information   regarding                                                                   
building code  requirements with  regard to fault  lines. Dr.                                                                   
Aho explained  that base sheer  equations used  in earthquake                                                                   
design are based on the proximity  of facilities to potential                                                                   
fault  systems. Certain  fault  lines are  concentrated,  but                                                                   
fault   lines  are   not  always   identified.  The   state's                                                                   
instrumentation is limited due to Alaska's size.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:27:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton noted  that  the commission  has  a budget  of                                                                   
$10,000.  He inquired  about the roll  of industry  regarding                                                                   
resource extraction. He asked  if ASHSC receives funding from                                                                   
industry as a  portion of their mitigation or  as the state's                                                                   
obligation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho informed  that  the commission  has  the ability  to                                                                   
receive  funding  from  any viable  source.  The  partnership                                                                   
committee is  charged with  seeking additional funding.  When                                                                   
the state designs a building such  as a school, certain codes                                                                   
are  subscribed   to.  Industry   does  not  have   the  same                                                                   
restrictions  when they  are spending  their  own money,  yet                                                                   
they design to the appropriate codes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  stated that  gas and  oil development  in Cook                                                                   
Inlet   would  require   a  permitting   practice   requiring                                                                   
mitigation  for seismic  hazards. He asked  if the  decisions                                                                   
were  made  internally or  was  data  provided by  state  and                                                                   
federal government.  Dr. Aho answered that  industry accesses                                                                   
both  avenues  in completing  their  own studies  and  taking                                                                   
advantage of  fault identification  studies performed  by the                                                                   
state. Information  from private  studies is not  always easy                                                                   
to obtain.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:31:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  commended Dr.  Aho's work  with such  a small                                                                   
budget.  He addressed  the  Johnson  River Fault,  which  the                                                                   
proposed gas pipeline  would cross five times.  He noted that                                                                   
legislation   did  not  exist   requiring  the   exchange  of                                                                   
information about  fault line studies.  He asked if  it would                                                                   
be helpful  to have  a better  working relationship  with the                                                                   
Alyeska  Pipeline Service  Company. Dr.  Aho answered  that a                                                                   
better  relationship   with  the  Alyeska   Pipeline  Service                                                                   
Company would be advantageous,  although information gathered                                                                   
about earthquakes and permafrost is often proprietary.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho  explained Slide 5  illustrating the surface  rupture                                                                   
during Alaska's  earthquake in 1964. The earthquake  lasted 5                                                                   
minutes.  An earthquake  of the  same  magnitude today  would                                                                   
cause substantial damage to a city like Anchorage.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:35:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho discussed  Slide 7  and the  "School Seismic  Hazard                                                                   
Map."  Seventy-five  schools  have  been  identified  in  the                                                                   
vintage,  construction   type,  and  seismic   location  that                                                                   
warrant   concern  for   future  damage   from  a   potential                                                                   
earthquake.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho  noted  that 27,000  earthquakes  were  recorded  in                                                                   
Alaska during 2008. Fifty to 100  earthquakes occur in Alaska                                                                   
on a daily bases.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about  depth measurements  shown  on                                                                   
Slide  9.  Dr.  Aho answered  that  depth  measurements  were                                                                   
illustrated  in meters,  and the  shallower  depths have  the                                                                   
greatest risk potential.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho presented  the "Rapid Instrumental Intensity  Map for                                                                   
1964 Anchorage  Scenario" (Slide 10) illustrating  the amount                                                                   
of damage that can occur following a large earthquake.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:39:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho introduced  instrumentation known as  seismic sensors                                                                   
or  EpiSensor   accelerometers.  After  an   earthquake,  the                                                                   
instrumentation   provides  data   regarding   motion  in   a                                                                   
particular building.  The data  allows ASHSC to  note whether                                                                   
design calculations were adequate following an earthquake.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton   asked  if  statewide  standards   exist  for                                                                   
buildings. He  asked if individual communities  set their own                                                                   
standards. Dr.  Aho answered that the international  building                                                                   
code  is used  by  major communities  in  Alaska. Within  the                                                                   
international   building   code   are   substantial   seismic                                                                   
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton   asked  if   standards  vary  for   different                                                                   
municipalities.  He  asked  which latitudes  are  applied  by                                                                   
different municipalities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:41:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho  answered  that  the   universal  building  code  is                                                                   
standardized and municipalities  modify the code based on the                                                                   
risk.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  asked  about   the  potential  cost  of  the                                                                   
instrumentation  leading to  mitigation  of future  problems.                                                                   
Dr. Aho estimated the cost for  the sensors, wiring, and data                                                                   
recorders at $200,000.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho   explained  the   art  of  earthquake   engineering                                                                   
consisted  of proper  engineering, with  proper training  and                                                                   
peer  review.  Structures,  once designed  must  be  properly                                                                   
constructed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho  discussed  the 1964  earthquake  and  the  improper                                                                   
location  of  a  facility  in an  area  with  massive  ground                                                                   
failure  (Slide 11).  Dr. Aho  discussed  the Anchorage  High                                                                   
School  following the  1964 earthquake  illustrated on  Slide                                                                   
14,  as well  as a  gymnasium  roof shown  on  Slide 15  that                                                                   
collapsed  in five seconds  under massive  snow loading.  The                                                                   
school gym collapsed because of a design mistake.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:47:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho explained  that hazard identification  was crucial to                                                                   
avoid building over active faults.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Aho  continued   with  an  explanation   of  changes  in                                                                   
requirements  following   major  earthquakes   in  California                                                                   
destroying 230 schools  in 1933. The Field Act  was initiated                                                                   
requiring major  changes in  seismic design procedures,  peer                                                                   
review  of  all  school  structure   design,  and  full  time                                                                   
resident observation of construction.  Since 1933, California                                                                   
has not  had a major  catastrophic failure  of a school  as a                                                                   
result of an earthquake.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:49:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho illustrated  Pertinent Legislation as  shown on Slide                                                                   
21.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · FEMA's Hazard Mitigation Grant Program (HMGP)                                                                              
   · FEMA's Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grant Program (PDM)                                                                         
  · National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program (NEHRP)                                                                       
   · California (Field Act)                                                                                                     
   · Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Utah                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho commented that the city  of Kodiak decided to examine                                                                   
their community  schools searching for potential  problems in                                                                   
regard  to seismic  hazard.  Kodiak  hired a  consultant  and                                                                   
found  several hazards  in five  schools necessitating  major                                                                   
renovation.   Kodiak  received   the  prestigious   award  of                                                                   
excellence by  the Western States Seismic Policy  Council for                                                                   
their mitigation activity.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Aho discussed lessons learned:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Recognition of the Problem                                                                                                 
   · Identification of Structures at Risk                                                                                       
   · Prioritization of Mitigation                                                                                               
   · Final Determination of Mitigation Projects                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:52:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked about Alaskan  International Airports and                                                                   
risks to  airport buildings from  a potential  earthquake. He                                                                   
asked if the buildings were able  to handle the effects of an                                                                   
earthquake.  Mr.  Aho  believed  that the  structure  of  the                                                                   
airport buildings was adequate.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:53 AM.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
ASHSC_rpt_to_Gov_Leg_2009.pdf SFIN 2/20/2009 9:00:00 AM
Seismic Hazards Safety Comm members.pdf SFIN 2/20/2009 9:00:00 AM
Seismic Hazards Safety Comm Present.pdf SFIN 2/20/2009 9:00:00 AM