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01/22/2007 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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Department of Revenue - Revenue Update
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                    SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                        January 22, 2007                                                                                      
                           9:01 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Lyman Hoffman  convened  the  meeting at  approximately                                                               
9:01:14 AM.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:  SENATOR LYDA GREEN; DR.  MICHAEL WILLIAMS, Chief                                                             
Economist, Department  of Revenue;  GARY BADER,  Chief Investment                                                               
Officer,   Treasury,  Department   of  Revenue;   JERRY  BURNETT,                                                               
Administrative    Services    Director,   Legislative    Liaison,                                                               
Department  of  Revenue;   BRIAN  ANDREWS,  Deputy  Commissioner,                                                               
Treasury,  Department  of  Revenue;  CHERIE  NIENHUIS,  Petroleum                                                               
Economist, Department of Revenue;  DAVID TEAL, Legislative Fiscal                                                               
Analyst,  Legislative Finance  Division,  Legislative Agencies  &                                                               
Offices; MINDY ROWLAND, Senate Finance Committee Secretary                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Attending via  Teleconference: From  an Offnet  Location: PATRICK                                                             
GALVIN, Commissioner, Department of Revenue                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Revenue Update Presentation                                                                                                     
by the Department of Revenue                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee heard  a fiscal  overview from  the Department  of                                                               
Revenue. No committee action was taken.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:01:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  welcomed  Committee members,  staff,  and  the                                                               
audience to the first meeting  of the Senate Finance Committee of                                                               
the Twenty-Fifth Alaska State Legislature. The Senate majority                                                                  
this Session is comprised of a "bipartisan organization" which                                                                  
was "something new for the State" in recent years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman spoke as follows.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     An effort  would be made  to put partisanship aside  and try                                                               
     to work as a bipartisan  organization so that we can address                                                               
     the needs  and the issues  of the  State of Alaska  that the                                                               
     people that have elected us to  office to do... I think that                                                               
     the  people of  Alaska  expect.  So this  is  a  new day  in                                                               
     Alaskan government. We  have a great deal of  work before us                                                               
     crafting the  operating and the capital  budgets. There will                                                               
     be many  different issues coming  before this  Committee and                                                               
     I'm eager, as well as my  Co-Chairman, to work with each and                                                               
     every one  of you to  get what's the  best for the  State of                                                               
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     We  are very  fortunate this  year  to have  a $1.3  billion                                                               
     surplus that we anticipate at  the end of this current year,                                                               
     but that doesn't mean that we,  as a State of Alaska, are in                                                               
     good shape  because we still  don't have a long  term fiscal                                                               
     plan. We depend  heavily upon oil for our  revenues, and, as                                                               
     everyone is well  aware, the price of oil goes  up and comes                                                               
     down. And  this last  year, we've seen  something unforeseen                                                               
     and  that's the  slowing down  and even  the closure  of the                                                               
     gasline. So, things  are quite volatile and we  need to keep                                                               
     that point in mind.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:04:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Later on this week I  will be completing the assignments for                                                               
     the  operating  budget  subcommittees.  We've  directed  our                                                               
     staff to work  with each member of the  Finance Committee to                                                               
     coordinate all of our efforts.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:04:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Committee introductions ensued.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:05:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton, representing Senate District B, noted that this                                                                  
was his ninth year representing the citizens of Juneau in this                                                                  
capacity.  Previous to  that  he  served four  years  as a  State                                                               
Representative. Jesse Kiehl would be his Finance Committee aide.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:06:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas,  a lifelong Alaskan, appreciated  the opportunity                                                               
to represent  the Fairbanks  area in Senate  District D  where he                                                               
grew  up and  looked forward  to  serving on  this Committee.  He                                                               
would  be   assisted  by  staffers  Catherine   Reardon  and  Joe                                                               
Hardenbrook.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:07:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson, Senate District I,  stated that Elmendorf and Fort                                                               
Richardson military bases, Eagle River,  and a portion of Chugiak                                                               
were included in  his district of 35,000  people. The significant                                                               
numbers of active and retired  military personnel in his district                                                               
skewed its  demographics to the  high side. His  constituents are                                                               
mature and thoughtful. It has  been a privilege to represent them                                                               
in the legislature for ten years  and for six years prior to that                                                               
on  the local  assembly.  His efforts  on  the Finance  Committee                                                               
would be supported by staff person Lucky Schultz.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:08:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Huggins,   Senate   District   H,   characterized   his                                                               
constituents in  the Chugiak and Talkeetna  area as "able-bodied"                                                               
and "diverse".  His district is  "demanding" in part due  to "the                                                               
huge growth  spurt" the area  has experienced and  its subsequent                                                               
impact on infrastructure and schools.  Other issues of importance                                                               
to the  district are  the proposed Knik  Arm Bridge  crossing and                                                               
the railroad  network. An  issue of  statewide importance  is the                                                               
proposed  Alaska gas  pipeline. Deborah  Grundmann is  serving as                                                               
his Finance Committee aide.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:09:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  noted  that Committee  member,  Senator  Donny                                                               
Olson, who was absent today,  represented Senate District T which                                                               
includes  the  North  Slope  Borough  and  the  Northwest  Arctic                                                               
Borough.  Senator Olson  is a  doctor, a  pilot, and  held a  law                                                               
degree.  Co-Chair  Hoffman  indicated  Denise  Liccioli,  Finance                                                               
Committee  aide, and  Ginny  Austerman,  Legislative aide,  would                                                               
assist Senator Olson.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman,  Senate  District  S, is  a  lifelong  Alaska,                                                               
representing  the Yukon-Kuskokwim  delta,  the Alaska  Peninsula,                                                               
the  Aleutians,  and  the Pribilof  Islands.  He  introduced  his                                                               
Finance Committee staffers Tim Grussendorf and Tom Maher.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman, Senate  District  A, noted  that his  district                                                               
encompassed the  southern portion  of Southeast  Alaska including                                                               
Ketchikan,  Sitka,  Petersburg,  Wrangell  and  numerous  smaller                                                               
communities.  The  dynamics  of Southeast  Alaska  differed  from                                                               
other  areas  of  the  State  in  that  the  area's  economy  was                                                               
"stagnant"; and  while the economy  of Southeast  Alaska appeared                                                               
to be  flat, it  would, in  reality, reflect  a decline  were the                                                               
City and Borough of Juneau removed from the equation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman shared that District  A was continuing to absorb                                                               
the  economic aftermath  of  the  closure of  two  pulp mills.  A                                                               
decline  in  school  enrollment  has  been  experienced,  skilled                                                               
workers  are  migrating north  to  find  employment, and  surface                                                               
transportation  issues abound.  While the  proposed gas  pipeline                                                               
project  could provide  energy  to other  regions  of the  State,                                                               
hydro power would continue to be furthered in Southeast Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman recognized  Miles Baker and Steve  Porter as his                                                               
Finance Committee staff.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman assumed chair of the meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:15:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MINDY  ROWLAND, Senate  Finance  Committee Secretary,  introduced                                                               
Assistant Secretaries Robin Paul and Rose Foley.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  advised Committee  members to  direct questions                                                               
about  bill files  and  the  flow of  Committee  material to  the                                                               
Finance Committee Secretarial staff.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  next addressed  Committee protocol.  The intent                                                               
of  the Chairmen  "is  to  run a  fairly  formal committee".  The                                                               
issues addressed by  the Committee are of such  "a serious matter                                                               
that I  prefer that all of  the seated Senators have  the ability                                                               
to hear and listen to  all of the information presented". Elected                                                               
officials  and other  presenters  should speak  clearly into  the                                                               
microphones so that the minutes  could be recorded accurately and                                                               
so  listeners  could  hear  the  testimony.  Acronyms  should  be                                                               
avoided and "straight forward English" should be used.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman, anticipating that  a multitude of documentation                                                               
would be addressed during  Committee proceedings, advised against                                                               
shuffling paper and other materials  as the recording microphones                                                               
were  quite sensitive  and  the noise  would  be amplified.  This                                                               
could  negatively affect  the ability  of listeners  to hear  the                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  also   asked  that   cell-phones  and   other                                                               
electronic  devices be  turned off  during the  meetings as  they                                                               
disrupt the process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:19:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman urged  Members to be prompt to  meetings as they                                                               
would begin on time and  conclude prior to scheduled Senate floor                                                               
sessions.  Daily  meetings  would  be  expected  as  the  Session                                                               
progressed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  communicated his desire that,  in consideration                                                               
of  time, presenters'  testimony be  provided uninterrupted.  The                                                               
desire was  to provide  ample time  for questions,  response, and                                                               
follow-up.  Members should  direct  their  questions through  the                                                               
Chair.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   also   specified  that   topics   generating                                                               
substantial  discussion would  be  set aside  in  order to  allow                                                               
Members to further  address the issue with  the concerned entity.                                                               
The issue  would then be  brought back before the  Committee. The                                                               
same approach would  be taken when an  unanticipated issue arose,                                                               
in the effort to keep the Committee process moving.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman also asked Members  to alert a department of any                                                               
particular  issue of  concern prior  to the  hearing. This  would                                                               
promote  better  dialogue by  allowing  the  departments to  more                                                               
adequately respond to an issue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman stated  that while  the goal  was to  conduct a                                                               
formal hearing process, the tone should be relaxed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:22:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that, as  a matter  of routine,  Members                                                               
would  receive a  packet pertinent  to  each topic  on the  daily                                                               
agenda.  For  instance, today's  packet  includes  copies of  the                                                               
material that would be addressed by the Department of Revenue.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  pointed out that,  in an effort to  improve the                                                               
public's  ability   to  observe  Committee  proceedings,   a  new                                                               
projector screen  had been  installed in  the Committee  room for                                                               
easier viewing of power point presentations and the like.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Revenue Update, Department of Revenue                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:24:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                         Revenue Update                                                                                         
                     Department of Revenue                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:24:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK  GALVIN, Commissioner,  Department of  Revenue, testified                                                               
via teleconference  from an offnet  location and  apologized that                                                               
concurrent gas  pipeline meetings  prohibited him  from attending                                                               
in  person.  Department  of Revenue  staff  in  attendance  would                                                               
provide the bulk of the presentation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:25:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin specified that  the Department is the primary                                                               
agency involved in collecting State  revenue. The Tax Division is                                                               
responsible  for  the majority  of  that  revenue, including  the                                                               
revenue  generated by  corporate income  taxes and  the Petroleum                                                               
Profits Tax (PPT) tax on oil and gas production.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 The Department  also monitors  taxes the  State levies  on fuel,                                                               
fish, cigarettes and other commodities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin stated that,  in addition to monitoring taxes                                                               
levied  on  fuel, fish,  cigarette,  and  other commodities,  the                                                               
Department also houses the Child  Support Services Division which                                                               
is  responsible  for  collecting   child  support  payments,  the                                                               
Permanent  Fund  Dividend  (PFD)   Division  which  collects  PFD                                                               
applications  and   distributes  the  funds,  and   the  Treasury                                                               
Division,  which   serves  in  a  variety   of  money  management                                                               
functions except  for those associated with  the Alaska Permanent                                                               
Fund. Gary  Bader would be  discussing some of the  funds managed                                                               
by the Treasury Division later in this hearing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin also  noted  that the  Treasury Division  is                                                               
responsible  for managing  the  State's debt  in  respect to  the                                                               
Municipal Bond Bank  and "other public financing  portions of the                                                               
State". The Division  employs a Cash Manager "who  is tasked with                                                               
making sure the  State has cash in hand to  make our payments and                                                               
to manage" the  State's cash to achieve the  best possible return                                                               
and a  Comptroller who  is charged with  ensuring that  the State                                                               
"is properly  reporting and controlling the  different aspects of                                                               
the Treasury and the Department".                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin stated that  the Department's management team                                                               
consists  of Brian  Andrews,  Deputy  Commissioner for  Treasury;                                                               
Jerry  Burnett, Director,  Administrative  Services Division  and                                                               
Legislative Liaison;  Marcia Davis,  Deputy Commissioner  for Tax                                                               
and   Gasline   Issues;   and   John   Iverson,   Director,   Tax                                                               
Division/Anchorage.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:32:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In consideration of time, Co-Chair  Stedman asked Members to hold                                                               
questions until the end of each presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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             State of Alaska Department of Revenue                                                                              
           Crude Oil Prices, State Revenue & the PPT                                                                            
                        January 22, 2007                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. MICHAEL D. WILLIAMS, Chief  Economist, Department of Revenue,                                                               
utilized a handout titled "Crude  Oil Prices, State Revenue & the                                                               
PPT" handout [copy on file] and testified as follows.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Good morning  ladies and  gentlemen, my  name is  Michael D.                                                               
     Williams  and  I  am  the Chief  Economist  for  the  Alaska                                                               
     Department  of  Revenue.  Thank  you  for  the  introduction                                                               
     Commissioner  Galvin. I  would  like to  discuss two  topics                                                               
     with you  - crude oil  prices and the Department  of Revenue                                                               
     forecast.  After I  have  reviewed these  topics  I will  be                                                               
     happy to attempt to answer your questions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:33:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Agenda                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        · Crude Oil Prices                                                                                                      
        · State Revenue                                                                                                         
        · Petroleum Profits Tax                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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     Crude Oil Prices                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Fall 2006 RSB Forecast                                                                                                
        · Actual Prices                                                                                                         
        · Volatility                                                                                                            
        · Drivers                                                                                                               
        · Conclusions                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   Let's begin with  crude oil prices.  Under this  heading there                                                               
   are several topics I would like to cover  and they include the                                                               
   following: The Department's official crude  oil price forecast                                                               
   for FY 2007 as  contained in the  Revenue Sources Book  or RSB                                                               
   [page 97]; the actual  prices for FY  2007 for the  months for                                                               
   which we have data;  the volatility of crude  oil as reflected                                                               
   in daily  prices;  the  topics  or  drivers that  are  causing                                                               
 volatility; and, finally, I will close with some conclusions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:33:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     ANS Crude Oil Prices                                                                                                       
     FY 2007 Forecast, Dollars per Barrel                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Chart comparing  the forecasted prices to  the actual price                                                               
     experienced per  barrel of oil  for the months of  June 2006                                                               
     through   January  2007.   The  Department's   forecast  for                                                               
     February  is $55  per barrel  and $50  per barrel  for March                                                               
     through May 2007.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Let's begin  with the  Department's official  price forecast                                                               
     for Alaska North Slope crude  oil or ANS. The chart presents                                                               
     prices  in dollars  per barrel  and the  vertical axis  goes                                                               
     from  $40  to  $75.  The horizontal  axis  contains  monthly                                                               
     average prices  beginning in June  2006 and  running through                                                               
     May 2007. The reason the data  begins in June is because oil                                                               
     prices and production in June  are the basis for royalty and                                                               
     production  tax  payments  in  July -  the  first  month  of                                                               
     Alaska's fiscal year. The green  bars represent our forecast                                                               
     prices  and the  dark  blue line  represents actual  prices.                                                               
     When  we prepared  the  forecast we  had  actual prices  for                                                               
     June, July and  August - that is the reason  they match. Our                                                               
     crude oil price forecast for FY  2007 is $59.15 per barrel -                                                               
     which is the average of the  12 months you see in the chart.                                                               
     You  will  note  we correctly  predicted  prices  declining;                                                               
     however, we missed the exact trajectory.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:34:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Daily Crude Oil Prices                                                                                                     
     ANS, Dollars  per Barrel, June  1, 2006 through  January 18,                                                               
     2007                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Line chart  depicting an  upward trend  in daily  crude oil                                                               
     prices in June, July, and  August 2006, and a downward trend                                                               
     from August 2006 through January 2007.]                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Moving  on  to volatility,  this  chart  contains the  daily                                                               
     price  of  ANS  beginning  with June  1,  2006  and  running                                                               
     through  January 18,  2007.  You will  note  there are  some                                                               
     dramatic changes.  Prices increase  almost 13%  between June                                                               
     13 and  July 14, and then  decline more than 29%  or $22 per                                                               
     barrel between  July 14 and  October 30.  Thereafter, prices                                                               
     increase 12% by December 15  before declining another 20% by                                                               
     January  18. What  is causing  these  dramatic swings?  Will                                                               
     they continue?                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:35:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Drivers                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        · Demand                                                                                                                
        · Supply                                                                                                                
        · Prices                                                                                                                
        · Geopolitical Events                                                                                                   
        · Financial Sector                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     To help you understand the  causes of these price changes, I                                                               
     am going  to discuss some  key topics  or drivers as  I call                                                               
     them. One must keep in mind that  the price of an item - any                                                               
     item - is  determined by the relative supply  and demand for                                                               
     the item in the market place.  Crude oil is a commodity that                                                               
     is  traded on  electronic exchanges  worldwide. So  what are                                                               
     the  drivers? We  will  begin with  the  demand for  refined                                                               
     petroleum products - things like  gasoline, jet fuel, diesel                                                               
     and  heating  oil.  Demand  is   one  of  the  pillars  that                                                               
     determines  price. In  general,  greater demand  for a  good                                                               
     provides support for higher prices.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     In the  United States,  according to the  American Petroleum                                                               
     Institute,  "… petroleum  deliveries, a  measure of  demand,                                                               
     fell by  roughly 1% to  20.6 million barrels per  day [mbd],                                                               
     down  from  20.8 mbd  in  2005,  which  was below  the  2004                                                               
     level".  The  International  Energy  Agency  estimated  that                                                               
     world  oil demand  in the  industrial countries  - countries                                                               
     like the US,  Japan and Germany - declined by  0.6% in 2006.                                                               
     However,  global demand  increased due  to the  increases in                                                               
     Asia and the  Middle East. According to  a Citigroup analyst                                                               
     "We've entered  that era on  a worldwide basis  where demand                                                               
     is growing more slowly." The  recent declines come at a time                                                               
     where  there  has  been  warm weather,  so  the  demand  for                                                               
     heating fuel has been reduced by weather.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Next, we look  at another pillar that  helps determine price                                                               
     - the supply  side. In general, greater supplies  of a good,                                                               
     relative to demand, have a  depressing effect on price. Here                                                               
     we   see   events   that  have   offsetting   effects.   The                                                               
     Organization of  Petroleum Exporting  Countries or  OPEC has                                                               
     attempted  to  stem  the price  decline  by  reducing  their                                                               
     production.  They consciously  reduced  output in  December,                                                               
     October and  September. They have publicly  stated that they                                                               
     might  convene   a  special   meeting  to   discuss  further                                                               
     production cuts. You  should also note that  Angola became a                                                               
     member of OPEC on January 1, 2007.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Crude   oil  production   in  non-OPEC   nations  has   been                                                               
     increasing  as  has  the  inventories  of  crude  oil.  With                                                               
     slowing  demand, the  increase  in  non-OPEC production  has                                                               
     offset  the  declines  by  OPEC.  The  result  has  been  an                                                               
     increase  in  inventories.  According to  the  International                                                               
     Energy  Agency (IEA),  crude oil  stocks for  the industrial                                                               
     countries reached  their highest  level in  20 years  in May                                                               
     2006  and continued  to increase  for four  of the  next six                                                               
     months.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Taken  together  we  see a  picture  of  decreasing  demand,                                                               
     increasing  supplies  and  increasing inventories.  What  is                                                               
     causing demand to slow and  non-OPEC supplies to increase? A                                                               
     major  factor  is high  crude  oil  prices. High  crude  oil                                                               
     prices  translate to  higher  prices  for refined  petroleum                                                               
     products. These  high prices have an  impact on consumption.                                                               
     It has taken time for the  impact to be seen, but the recent                                                               
     consumption  statistics reflect  the  price  effect. On  the                                                               
     supply side, the  high prices have led to  large oil company                                                               
     profits,  which  have   in  turn  led  to   a  drilling  and                                                               
     exploration bonanza world wide.  Companies are exploring and                                                               
     developing resources around the world.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Geopolitical  events also  contribute  to price  volatility.                                                               
     When Venezuela  and Bolivia  talk nationalization,  there is                                                               
     an impact on the crude  markets with a perception of reduced                                                               
     supply  and higher  prices. The  fighting  in Iraq,  Russian                                                               
     policy changes  with regard to energy  development and other                                                               
     events all influence crude oil prices.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Another sector  I want to  discuss is the  financial sector.                                                               
     When  I speak  of the  financial sector  I am  talking about                                                               
     several  different  groups  who participate  in  buying  and                                                               
     selling  crude  oil  derivatives. Producers  and  consumers:                                                               
     these  folks  use  oil  in  their  business,  think  of  oil                                                               
     companies,  petrochemical plants,  refineries and  airlines.                                                               
     They  use  hedging techniques  to  control  their costs  and                                                               
     revenue. Pure Financial Players: these  folks do not use oil                                                               
     in  their business.  Think of  four  categories of  players:                                                               
     one:   financial   institutions;  two:   commodity   trading                                                               
     advisors;   three:   the   530  hedge   funds;   and   four:                                                               
     institutional  investors.  The institutional  investors  are                                                               
     the most  recent entrants  and they  view commodities  as an                                                               
     asset  class. Investor  products such  as commodity  indices                                                               
     provide an opportunity to diversify.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The various pure financial players  have different goals and                                                               
     different impacts on  the crude oil market.  Most likely the                                                               
     financial  sector does  not determine  the  trend, but  they                                                               
     amplify  the trend  - and  they may  be part  of the  reason                                                               
     prices rose so quickly, and  recently declined sharply. I am                                                               
     not an  expert in  all the financial  derivatives, but  I am                                                               
     aware of the fact that the  amount of money in the financial                                                               
     sector dwarf's that of the  oil markets. So if the financial                                                               
     sector chooses  to move  into or  out of  crude oil,  it can                                                               
     have dramatic impacts on prices.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:44:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Conclusions                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     · Forecast Price Decline                                                                                                   
     · Prices Remain Volatile                                                                                                   
              Æ’Financial Sector Amplifies Trends                                                                               
     · Possible Price Support:                                                                                                  
               Æ’Cold Weather & OPEC                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Please  bear with  me  as  I attempt  to  tie  much of  this                                                               
     together  to  help you  understand  the  functioning of  the                                                               
     market.  A key  ingredient in  all  of this  is what  people                                                               
     think the  future holds -  their perceptions. If  a refinery                                                               
     operator  believes demand  is strong  and  supplies are  not                                                               
     forthcoming.  Here  you  should  think of  2004  global  oil                                                               
     demand growth of 3.4 percent  followed by supply disruptions                                                               
     caused  by  Hurricane  Katrina in  2005,  that  operator  is                                                               
     likely  to  purchase  additional supplies.  Remember,  after                                                               
     2004 there is limited world  wide spare crude oil production                                                               
     capacity. Now, multiply this by  all the refinery operators,                                                               
     airlines, petrochemical  plants and  one sees  strong demand                                                               
     for crude  oil, with  the different market  segments bidding                                                               
     up   the  price.   Now  throw   in  the   financial  sector.                                                               
     Institutional  investors   see  an  opportunity;   they  too                                                               
     believe  demand is  increasing  with  limited supplies,  and                                                               
     they  purchase derivatives,  further bidding  up the  price.                                                               
     This is basically what happened in 2004 and 2005.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The year  2006 opened with  people believing one:  there was                                                               
     no price effect that would  dampen oil demand and two: there                                                               
     would be a nasty hurricane  season in 2006 that would reduce                                                               
     oil supplies. With continued unrest  in Iraq and problems in                                                               
     the Russian oil  sector, this led to the  steady increase of                                                               
     prices that peaked in July.  Thereafter it became clear that                                                               
     the  price  effect  was  working   as  demand  for  oil  was                                                               
     declining,  and  there were  no  supply  disruptions due  to                                                               
     hurricanes.  In   addition,  warm  weather   reduced  winter                                                               
     heating oil demand.  The IEA lowered its  demand estimate in                                                               
     September, October,  November and January. It  was unchanged                                                               
     in December.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     On a very  different but related topic, the  demand for corn                                                               
     has risen as  the demand for ethanol has  increased and corn                                                               
     prices  are at  10 year  highs. While  crude oil  prices are                                                               
     declining, financial  investors still want to  earn a profit                                                               
     in commodities, so they may  move money to commodities other                                                               
     than oil, such as corn.  The recent freeze in California has                                                               
     damaged the citrus  crop, so orange juice  prices are likely                                                               
     to  increase. Perceptions:  it may  be easier  to make  more                                                               
     money in orange juice and corn  than oil. Thus, we could see                                                               
     additional   money   exit   oil  and   enter   these   other                                                               
     commodities. This  could amplify  the downward trend  in oil                                                               
     prices.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     In summary,  when people's  perceptions change,  they change                                                               
     their  behavior. The  advent of  computers and  the internet                                                               
     speed information  worldwide and a change  in perception can                                                               
     very rapidly  translate to  a change  in action  and prices.                                                               
     It is people's perception of  future prices that causes them                                                               
     to take  action; they get their  information from television                                                               
     or the  internet and make  their decisions,  whether hedging                                                               
     jet fuel  purchases for  an airline,  purchasing commodities                                                               
     for an institutional investor, or  betting on price declines                                                               
     at a hedge fund.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     With regard  to prices, we  did forecast the  price decline.                                                               
     Further, I believe prices will  remain volatile. Again, I do                                                               
     not think the financial sector  causes the trends; I believe                                                               
     they  amplify  the  trends.  In the  short  term,  there  is                                                               
     possible  price support  from the  recent cold  weather that                                                               
     could stimulate  the demand for  heating oil. Also,  if OPEC                                                               
     does  decide to  further reduce  output, it  can impact  the                                                               
     markets. The two key  ingredients: the supply-demand balance                                                               
     and people's perceptions of the markets.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:44:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4B                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Revenue Projections                                                                                                        
     · Fall 2006 RSB                                                                                                            
     · Oil Revenues Dominate                                                                                                    
     · Variance Analysis                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Next,  I  want   to  turn  to  our   fall  forecast  revenue                                                               
     projections.  These  can be  found  in  the Revenue  Sources                                                               
     Book.  I   will  review   our  projections,   highlight  the                                                               
     importance  of oil  revenues to  Alaska,  and describe  some                                                               
     basic analysis to give you an idea of where we are today.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams noted that a copy of the Department's Fall Revenue                                                                 
Forecast Book [copy on file] was included in Members' packets.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5A                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Oil Dependency                                                                                                             
     Fy2007 General Fund Unrestricted Revenue, Millions                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Royalty-Net PF      1,503.9        30.6%                                                                                   
     Production Tax      2,067.2        40.1%                                                                                   
     Income Tax            657.2        13.4%                                                                                   
     Property               51.7         1.1%                                                                                   
     Bonus, Rent, etc       51.4         1.0%                                                                                   
          TOTAL OIL      4.331.5        88.2%                                                                                 
     Non-Oil               580.8        11.8%                                                                                   
          TOT BUDGET     4,912.3        100.0%                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Our official  forecast of General Fund  Unrestricted Revenue                                                               
     for FY 2007  is $4.9 billion. Of the total,  $4.3 billion or                                                               
     88% comes from  oil. I would like to  review the categories.                                                               
     The first  is Royalty  revenue - this  does not  include the                                                               
     25%  that goes  to  the Permanent  Fund or  PF.  You see  we                                                               
     project  about $1.5  billion  and this  is  based on  price,                                                               
     volume and  the royalty  rate, about  12.5 percent.  Next is                                                               
     the production  tax which is  the new Petroleum  Profits Tax                                                               
     or PPT  that Commissioner  Galvin will discuss  shortly. Our                                                               
     estimate is that it will  generate about $2 billion. The key                                                               
     aspects  here  are  production  volumes,  price,  costs  and                                                               
     credits. Next on the list is  Income Tax which we project at                                                               
     about  $657  million. The  drivers  for  income tax  include                                                               
     prices, production  and some  factors our  accountants refer                                                               
     to as apportionment factors. It  is pretty complicated and I                                                               
     will  not get  into the  details now.  We project  about $52                                                               
     million from  property taxes and  this is based  on assessed                                                               
     value.  Monies  from bonus,  rents,  etc.  are projected  at                                                               
     about $51 million and the  recent lease sale in the Beaufort                                                               
     Sea in October is the main  reason for this high number. Our                                                               
     projection for  non-oil revenue is about  $580 million. This                                                               
     includes many  other categories such as  alcohol and tobacco                                                               
     taxes,   fines  and   forfeitures,  licenses   and  permits,                                                               
     investment income and other.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:46:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5B                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Variance in Key Factors                                                                                                    
     For FY 2007, Year-to-Date Changes From Fall Forecast                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Chart depicting  an increase of approximately  four percent                                                               
     in the price of Alaska North  Slope (ANS) oil and a decrease                                                               
     of approximately two percent in production volume.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     As you  can tell, oil  revenue dominates the  Alaska revenue                                                               
     picture  and  crude  oil prices  and  crude  oil  production                                                               
     volumes are  the key factors  in estimating oil  revenue. To                                                               
     see our status on these  two factors, I compare our forecast                                                               
     with actual prices and volumes for the fiscal year-to-date.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In this chart  the vertical axis is percent  change. Our ANS                                                               
     crude oil  price forecast for  FY 2007 that is  published in                                                               
     the RSB is  $59.15 per barrel. ANS crude  oil prices through                                                               
     January  18 average  $61.81 which  is $2.66  or 4.3  percent                                                               
     above the forecast. Regarding ANS  crude oil production, our                                                               
     volume forecast  for FY 2007  in the RSB is  739,618 barrels                                                               
     per day [b/d].  Through January 17 ANS  crude oil production                                                               
     averaged  722,845 b/d  which is  16,773 b/d  or 2.3  percent                                                               
     below  our  forecast.  Since oil  production  in  Alaska  is                                                               
     higher  during the  cooler months,  I expect  our production                                                               
     volume  estimate will  get closer  to the  forecast as  time                                                               
     goes on.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:47:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams concluded speaking to the portion of the                                                                           
presentation pertaining to crude oil prices and State revenues.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:47:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6A                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Petroleum Profits Tax                                                                                                      
        · "True-Up" Payment                                                                                                     
        · Regulations Status                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin stated that  his remarks would concentrate on                                                               
updating the Committee  on the status of the  PPT regulations and                                                               
the revenue  the "true-up" payment  would provide the State  in a                                                               
few months.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:48:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6B                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     PPT True-Up Payment                                                                                                        
        · Due End of March                                                                                                      
        · Estimate = $0.95 billion                                                                                              
                  Æ’April, May      = $0.29 billion                                                                             
                  Æ’June - December = $0.66 billion                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin   addressed  the  PPT's   "true-up"  payment                                                               
provision. While the  PPT tax went into effect on  April 1, 2006,                                                               
the first PPT  payment would not be due until  April 1, 2007. The                                                               
determination  was that  this timeframe  would provide  companies                                                               
time  to  understand  how  the  State  would  implement  the  PPT                                                               
provisions, allow  them to update internal  systems, and estimate                                                               
their  payments  under  the  PPT.  Until  then,  companies  would                                                               
continue  their  monthly  tax  payments  based  upon  the  former                                                               
severance tax structure referred to  as the Economic Limit Factor                                                               
(ELF). On April  1, 2007, companies would be  required to true-up                                                               
the difference between  the tax paid under ELF  and that required                                                               
under the provisions of the PPT.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin clarified, however,  that the PPT regulations                                                               
would not be in place until  after April 1, 2007. Thus, companies                                                               
would be  basing their true-up payment  on "communications that's                                                               
been going  on in the  development of the regulations  to clarify                                                               
some of  the areas  under the law  that needed  clarification and                                                               
they  can kind  of get  a  sense of  where we're  going with  it.                                                               
They're going  to do  the best  they can to  see where  the State                                                               
expects them  to go on the  interpretation of aspects of  it, and                                                               
then they'll proceed with their  returns and their payments. But,                                                               
there'll   subsequently   be    additional   clarifications   and                                                               
additional adjustments that will  be necessary as our regulations                                                               
are finalized and the companies will have to respond to that".                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:50:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin anticipated that on  April 1, 2007, the State                                                               
would receive  approximately 0.95  billion dollars  of additional                                                               
revenue  based on  companies' estimates  of the  PPT payments  in                                                               
excess of the ELF payments made to date.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:51:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7A                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     PPT Regulations Status                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     · Publicly Noticed Workshops Oct - Nov                                                                                     
     · Draft Regulations Created                                                                                                
     · Public Comments & Hearing: Dec. 13 - Jan. 17                                                                             
     · Issues Raised:                                                                                                           
          o Transfer of Exploration Credits                                                                                     
          o Clarification of Lease Expenditures                                                                                 
          o Overhead Rates (Too high - Too low)                                                                                 
          o Ring Fencing Losses                                                                                                 
          o Information Reporting Requirements                                                                                  
          o Inclusion of Penalty Provisions                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7B                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     PPT Regulations Status                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     · Estimated Revision Time: Mid February                                                                                    
     · Final Review                                                                                                             
          o DOR Director & Commissioner                                                                                         
          o Department of Law                                                                                                   
          o Lieutenant Governor's Office                                                                                        
     · Expected Implementation - April                                                                                          
     · Second Regulation Project - Spring '07                                                                                   
        (To include: Clarifying allowable lease expenditures and                                                                
        use of operating agreements)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin  reiterated that  the PPT  regulation process                                                               
would  not  be   completed  before  April  1,   2007.  The  first                                                               
regulations  being addressed  pertained  to  how companies  would                                                               
submit tax returns and other [unspecified] large PPT issues.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin stated  that a  second group  of regulations                                                               
would address  specific details about allowable  expenditures and                                                               
how  certain  costs and  operating  agreements  would be  treated                                                               
under the new tax system.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:52:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin advised  that the  first set  of regulations                                                               
under  consideration were  being "developed  with extensive  work                                                               
within the  Department" as  well as with  the industry  and other                                                               
interested parties.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:52:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin  noted  that  the effort  to  date  included                                                               
discussion-based  workshops.  Draft  regulations were  issued  in                                                               
December and public  hearings were held in  December and January.                                                               
A comment period deadline recently concluded.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:53:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin  noted  that the  Department  would  further                                                               
evaluate the  issues raised by  the industry and  Legislators, as                                                               
depicted on page 7A.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin  announced  that the  regulations  would  be                                                               
reviewed by  the Department  of Law  before being  transmitted to                                                               
the Lieutenant Governor's office.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:55:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin  anticipated the first set  of regulations to                                                               
be completed  no earlier than  late March. However, this  was not                                                               
considered  "a  realistic  timeframe"   as  it  would  not  allow                                                               
sufficient time for them to  be accommodated in industry returns.                                                               
Efforts should  be made to  get "the regulations right  the first                                                               
time".                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin  noted  that  work  on  the  second  set  of                                                               
regulations is  also being conducted.  Those should  be finalized                                                               
by this spring.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:56:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   reminded  the  Committee  of   the  extensive                                                               
analyses  that was  conducted during  the PPT  deliberations when                                                               
the tax was  shifted from gross value to net  value. He suggested                                                               
that the Committee  revisit the issue to ensure  the analyses was                                                               
correct; specifically as he recalled  that the fiscal note at the                                                               
time  was estimated  to be  approximately $400  million, not  the                                                               
currently stated $290 million.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:57:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested information  be provided  which would                                                               
allow for a comparison between  the fiscal note and the "reality"                                                               
of the collections for the months of April and May.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:57:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin  indicated the information would  be provided                                                               
as soon as it was available.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:57:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  also  asked   that  the  numbers  reflect  the                                                               
aggregate impact of  credits and deductions as  he was interested                                                               
in determining  whether the  20 percent  credit had  the intended                                                               
effect of  encouraging investment.  This consideration  should be                                                               
continually monitored.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman suggested  that the  Committee further  examine                                                               
the Constitutional  Budget Reserve  (CBR) projections,  the "net-                                                               
back issue" relating to the  Trans Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS),                                                               
and changes in  tariffs and forward projections  reflected in the                                                               
Revenue Sources Book.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:59:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  specified  that the  Committee  would  request                                                               
additional detail  on the  analysis of  the price  and production                                                               
modeling.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:00:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  was also interested  in the spread of  the West                                                               
Texas Intermediate  (WTI) oil price  in comparison to  the Alaska                                                               
North Slope  (ANS) price, taking  into account  market conditions                                                               
that might affect those price differences.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:00:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  further  noted   that  gas  prices  should  be                                                               
addressed,  specifically  the  oil-to-gas   price  ratio,  as  he                                                               
understood that ratio to be in flux.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:01:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  allowed that some  of the detail  requested may                                                               
be delivered to  the Senate Resources Committee,  rather than the                                                               
Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:01:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton referred to the  "Crude Oil Prices, State Revenue &                                                               
the  PPT"  chart  depicted  on  page 5B  and  surmised  that  oil                                                               
revenues were dependent on both  ANS price and production volume.                                                               
He  asked Dr.  Williams  if  an analysis  had  been conducted  to                                                               
determine  the monetary  loss the  State experienced  due to  the                                                               
temporary cessation  of production on  the North Slope at  a time                                                               
of extremely high  oil prices, and if there was  a way to recover                                                               
the lost funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:03:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Williams replied  that  an analysis  had  been conducted  in                                                               
October  or   November  to  determine  the   change  in  revenues                                                               
resulting  from  the shut-down;  however,  no  updates have  been                                                               
conducted  since  then.  He   considered  the  production  volume                                                               
"deferred" rather than  lost, as the oil was still  in the ground                                                               
for later extraction.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:03:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton deduced  from the  revenue price  projections that                                                               
the  price received  for the  deferred production  would be  less                                                               
than it would have been at the time of the pipeline shut-down.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:04:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams  responded that  he could not  predict the  price as                                                               
the time of the production was an unknown element.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:04:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin stated  that  the  Department was  currently                                                               
examining  the  losses  associated  with  the  shut-down  of  the                                                               
pipeline; however, providing  an estimate of losses  at this time                                                               
would  be "premature".  The Department  of  Law is  investigating                                                               
avenues  for   recovering  lost  revenues.  He   added  that  the                                                               
geological and engineering  impacts of the shut-down  have yet to                                                               
be addressed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:05:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  considered Senator Elton's question  to pertain                                                               
to the PPT tax collection.  That issue would be further addressed                                                               
at a later time.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:06:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  pointed out that  the Senate  Finance Committee                                                               
had  been  unaware  that pipeline  tariff  increases  were  being                                                               
considered,   but  now   understood   the   increases  would   be                                                               
approximately  $1.50   per  barrel.  He  asked   whether  further                                                               
increases in the  pipeline tariff are anticipated as  a result of                                                               
declining production.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:07:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Galvin  was  also   concerned  about  the  proposed                                                               
increases. The  tariff settlement  agreement entered into  by the                                                               
State  in the  past is  being  reopened for  discussion with  the                                                               
pipeline owners.  He was "hopeful"  that the  deliberations would                                                               
result in  a more favorable  tariff than in years  past. However,                                                               
it was premature to speculate on the rates.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:08:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman commented  that the  oil and  gas tariff  issue                                                               
would  be  revisited with  regards  to  the  impact on  both  the                                                               
industry and the State.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:08:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked if the  tax year  and the fiscal  year were                                                               
the same.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:08:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams affirmed, noting the time  period was July 1 to June                                                               
30,  but specified  that June  prices  are used  to project  July                                                               
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:08:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  asked  whether the  costs  associated  with  the                                                               
corrosion  removal  and  repair  of the  pipeline  would  be  tax                                                               
deductible.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin  replied that  the companies  were proceeding                                                               
with  the understanding  that those  costs  would be  deductible;                                                               
however, there had been no definite resolution of the issue yet.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:10:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman clarified  that  the corrosion  issue would  be                                                               
addressed later,  as the Administration  had the  information and                                                               
would present it to the Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:10:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins referred  to the price projection of  $55 on page                                                               
2B, and  asked when Dr.  Williams anticipated prices  to increase                                                               
as a result of increased demand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:11:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Williams did  not expect  a recession  and assumed  that the                                                               
strong global economy would produce  more demand. He did not know                                                               
exactly  how high  the  price  of oil  would  climb, but  aligned                                                               
himself with the Department's forecast.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:12:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins, referencing Dr.  Williams' comment regarding the                                                               
California citrus  crop, understood that  the crop was  valued in                                                               
the "single digit" billions of dollars.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:12:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams explained  that the citrus crop  example was offered                                                               
as an illustration of a  multi-commodity market. Investors choose                                                               
to invest their  funds in profitable markets.  Orange juice funds                                                               
were provided  as an  example of market  changes and  forces that                                                               
might cause investors to modify their portfolios.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:14:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a question  from Senator  Huggins, Dr.  Williams                                                               
identified $59.15  as the  State revenue  forecast's "break-even"                                                               
price.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:14:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked  if  that figure  accounted  for the  income                                                               
generated by the PPT tax.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:14:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Williams affirmed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:14:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Galvin  clarified that  the Department  utilized the                                                               
$59.15 figure to estimate revenue  for the fiscal year. A surplus                                                               
would be experienced at this price.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:15:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman specified that  that information was depicted on                                                               
page 3 of the Revenue Sources Book.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:15:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  stressed the importance  of knowing  the "break-                                                               
even"  price. He  recalled that  the previous  year's figure  had                                                               
been  slightly more  than $47.  He  assumed that  the amount  was                                                               
higher in the current fiscal year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  informed that  the Committee would  utilize the                                                               
FY  07  break-even  price  volume   until  a  FY  08  figure  was                                                               
determined.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:17:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GARY  BADER, Chief  Investment Officer,  Treasury, Department  of                                                               
Revenue,  utilized  a  handout  titled  "Department  of  Revenue,                                                               
Treasury, Investment  Function" dated  January 22. 2006  [copy on                                                               
file], to  overview the treasury  investment function  within the                                                               
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:18:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Investments                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · Treasury oversees $24.9 billion.                                                                                      
             o Retirement (ARMB) funds (~$15 billion).                                                                          
             o Defined contribution funds (~$2.5 billion).                                                                      
             o Other state funds (~$7.4 billion).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · Treasury manages the cash needs of the State and ARMB.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · Treasury manages the ARMB domestic fixed income assets                                                                
          (~$2.7 billion).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        · Treasury manages the ARMB real estate investment trust                                                                
          assets (~$125 million).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · Treasury also manages three fixed income investment                                                                   
          options for the Alaska Student Loan Corporation (~$95                                                                 
          million).                                                                                                             
             o Two intermediate bond portfolios.                                                                                
             o One managed against the Lehman Aggregate Index,                                                                  
               less BBB securities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader overviewed the information, defining ARMB as the                                                                      
Alaska Retirement Management Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:20:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Internally Managed Portfolio Returns                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Table listing the following:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AY70                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: Short-Term Fixed Income - 91 day T-bill                                                                         
     Market Value: $2,582,831,472.06                                                                                            
     1 Year: 4.95                                                                                                               
          (4.50)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 3.91                                                                                                               
          (3.56)                                                                                                                
     3 Year: 3.04                                                                                                               
          (2.73)                                                                                                                
     5 Year: 2.57                                                                                                               
          (2.30)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AY72                                                                                                                 
    Fund Name: Intermediate Term Fixed Income ML 1-5 YR Gov                                                                     
     Market Value: $3,194,628,112.17                                                                                            
     1 Year: 4.09                                                                                                               
          (3.70)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 2.82                                                                                                               
          (2.29)                                                                                                                
     3 Year: 2.53                                                                                                               
          (2.00)                                                                                                                
     5 Year: 3.43                                                                                                               
          (3.18)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AY73                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: Broad Mkt Fixed Income LB Aggregate                                                                             
     Market Value: $1,077,207,815.11                                                                                            
     1 Year: 4.13                                                                                                               
          (3.67)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 3.70                                                                                                               
          (3.23)                                                                                                                
     3 Year: 3.89                                                                                                               
          (3.38)                                                                                                                
     5 Year: 5.08                                                                                                               
          (4.81)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AY77                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: ARM Board Fixed Income LB Aggregate                                                                             
     Market Value: $2,682,706,242.20                                                                                            
     1 Year: 4.28                                                                                                               
          (3.67)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 3.84                                                                                                               
          (3.23)                                                                                                                
     3 Year: 3.93                                                                                                               
          (3.38)                                                                                                                
     5 Year: 5.08                                                                                                               
          (4.81)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AYT1                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: Origination Fee LB Aggregate A+                                                                                 
     Market Value: $20,906,018.33                                                                                               
     1 Year: 3.91                                                                                                               
          (3.70)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 3.51                                                                                                               
          (3.25)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AYT2                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: Surplus ML 1-5 Yr Gov                                                                                           
     Market Value: $75,153,975.56                                                                                               
     1 Year: 3.70                                                                                                               
          (3.70)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 2.44                                                                                                               
          (2.29)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund: AYT3                                                                                                                 
     Fund Name: Borrower Benefits ML 1-5 Yr Gov                                                                                 
     Market Value: $2,716,898.60                                                                                                
     1 Year: 3.80                                                                                                               
          (3.70)                                                                                                                
     2 Year: 2.52                                                                                                               
          (2.29)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Source: State Street]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader told  that the first numbers listed for  each year of a                                                               
Fund  represent the  fund's  actual returns.  The  second set  of                                                               
numbers, which  are in parentheses,  represent the  benchmark for                                                               
each fund.  The comparison  of the two  indicates the  success of                                                               
the investments.  Mr. Bader  noted that all  of the  funds listed                                                               
"outperformed" the  bench marks.  According to  Callan Associates                                                               
International  (CAI), the  AY77 ARMB  fund ranked  in the  top 14                                                               
percent of  public pension  funds for  the year  ending September                                                               
30. This  was a "vast improvement"  over the FY 01  ranking which                                                               
was in the top 65 percent.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Non-Retirement Investment Returns - Annualized                                                                             
     As of September 30, 2006                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     [Table listing the funds managed by the division, their                                                                    
     market value, and rates of return for 1 year, 3 years and 5                                                                
     years. The following funds are highlighted:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Name: General Investment Fund                                                                                         
     Market Value: $3,044,124,592                                                                                               
     1 Year: 4.48%                                                                                                              
     3 Years: 2.85%                                                                                                             
     5 Years: 3.09%                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Name: Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                                   
     Market Value: $1,898,870,859                                                                                               
     1 Year: 4.51%                                                                                                              
     3 Years: 2.98%                                                                                                             
     5 Years: 3.80%                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Name: Permanent Fund Div Hldg                                                                                         
     Market Value: $702,604,132                                                                                                 
     1 Year: 4.94%                                                                                                              
     3 Years: 2.97%                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Name: CBRF Subaccount                                                                                                 
     Market Value: $512,371,173                                                                                                 
     1 Year: 9.26%                                                                                                              
     3 Years: 10.46%                                                                                                            
     5 Years: 8.02%]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader  noted that the  Alaska Permanent Fund  transfers money                                                               
to  the  Division  of Treasury  after  determining  the  earnings                                                               
available for  distribution. Those funds are  invested until they                                                               
are distributed through the Permanent Fund Dividend in October.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:23:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bader  noted that  the  Constitutional  Budget Reserve  Fund                                                               
(CBRF)  Subaccount was  developed  for  long-term investments  of                                                               
five years or more. The larger  rate of return to this account is                                                               
due  to the  investment horizon  and the  ability to  invest more                                                               
aggressively.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:24:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Retirement Fund Returns                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:24:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     September 30, 2006                                                                                                         
     One Year Cumulative Attribution Effects                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     [Table listing the following:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Domestic Equity                                                                                               
     Effective Weight: 38%                                                                                                      
     Avg Trgt Weight: 36%                                                                                                       
     Actual Return: 9.71%                                                                                                       
     Target Return: 10.74%                                                                                                      
     Manager Effect: (0.39%)                                                                                                    
     Asset Allocation: (0.00%)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Domestic Fixed-Income                                                                                         
     Effective Weight: 21%                                                                                                      
     Avg Trgt Weight: 23%                                                                                                       
     Actual Return: 4.31%                                                                                                       
     Target Return: 3.67%                                                                                                       
     Manager Effect: 0.14%                                                                                                      
     Asset Allocation: 0.19%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: High Yield                                                                                                    
     Effective Weight: 2%                                                                                                       
     Avg Trgt Weight: 2%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 7.02%                                                                                                       
     Target Return: 7.90%                                                                                                       
     Manager Effect: (0.02%)                                                                                                    
     Asset Allocation: 0.01%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Real Estate                                                                                                   
     Effective Weight: 10%                                                                                                      
     Avg Trgt Weight: 9%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 18.31%                                                                                                      
     Target Return: 18.46%                                                                                                      
     Manager Effect: (0.01%)                                                                                                    
     Asset Allocation: 0.05%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: International Equity                                                                                          
     Effective Weight: 17%                                                                                                      
     Avg Trgt Weight: 15%                                                                                                       
     Actual Return: 20.75%                                                                                                      
     Target Return: 19.32%                                                                                                      
     Manager Effect: 0.26%                                                                                                      
     Asset Allocation: 0.24%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Int'l Fixed-Income                                                                                            
     Effective Weight: 3%                                                                                                       
     Avg Trgt Weight: 2%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 1.62%                                                                                                       
     Target Return: 2.02%                                                                                                       
     Manager Effect: (0.02%)                                                                                                    
     Asset Allocation: (0.12%)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Private Equity                                                                                                
     Effective Weight: 5%                                                                                                       
     Avg Trgt Weight: 6%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 18.44%                                                                                                      
     Target Return: 13.36%                                                                                                      
     Manager Effect: 0.26%                                                                                                      
     Asset Allocation: (0.02%)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Absolute Return                                                                                               
     Effective Weight: 3%                                                                                                       
     Avg Trgt Weight: 3%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 7.65%                                                                                                       
     Target Return: 8.91%                                                                                                       
     Manager Effect: (0.03%)                                                                                                    
     Asset Allocation: 0.03%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Class: Other                                                                                                         
     Effective Weight: 1%                                                                                                       
     Avg Trgt Weight: 3%                                                                                                        
     Actual Return: 12.30%                                                                                                      
     Target Return: 6.75%                                                                                                       
     Manager Effect: 0.04%                                                                                                      
     Asset Allocation: 0.13%                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Total:    11.46% = 10.71% + 0.22% + 0.51%                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     A notation reads as follows:  Current Quarter Target = 30.0%                                                               
     S&P 500, 20.0%  L/B Agg, 14.0% MSCI EAFE  Index, 9.0% NCREIF                                                               
     Total  Index, 6.0%  Russell 2000,  2.0% ML  Hi Yld  Cash Pay                                                               
     Index, 2.0%  Citi Non-US Gvt  Bd Idx 2.0% MSCI  Emer Markets                                                               
     and 1.0% NAREIT Equity Index.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader  summarized the  table and noted  that the  fund earned                                                               
11.46  percent for  the year  ending  September 30,  2006 as  the                                                               
result  of  a  positive  manager and  positive  asset  allocation                                                               
effect.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:26:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     September 30, 2006                                                                                                         
     CAI Public Sponsor Database                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     [Bar graph depicting return percentages of Last Year, Last                                                                 
     2 Years, Last 3 Years, Last 5 Years and Last 7 Years of the                                                                
     CIA Public Fund Sponsor Database and the Total Fund.]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader commented that the Division's fund was in the top                                                                     
eight percent of public pension funds during the "Last Year"                                                                    
investment period.  He noted  "significant improvement"  over the                                                               
past seven years, when the fund was in the 67th percentile.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:27:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Pension Funds                                                                                                              
     Cumulative Returns Actual vs Target.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Line graph depicting the Cumulative Returns for the Total                                                                 
     Fund, the Total Fund Target, and the Actuarial Expected                                                                    
     Return for the years of 1991 to 2006.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bader informed  that the  Total Fund  relates to  the Public                                                               
Employee's Retirement System (PERS)  and the Teachers' Retirement                                                               
System  (TRS). While  the two  retirement funds  are managed  the                                                               
same,  they  have slightly  different  rates  of returns  due  to                                                               
differing contributions.  For the past  15 years, the  funds have                                                               
had  an  average  return  of   9.01  percent,  outperforming  the                                                               
actuarial assumption.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:29:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   anticipated  the  Committee  would   spend  a                                                               
substantial  amount  of  time examining  the  State's  retirement                                                               
systems.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman warned  Committee  members  to discern  whether                                                               
numerical references were  referring to gross or  net amounts. He                                                               
would  ask   the  Treasury   to  provide   additional  clarifying                                                               
information about their rates of return.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  alleged that different liability  charts "don't                                                               
match  up," as  he  had identified  a discrepancy  of  $8 to  $10                                                               
billion.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:30:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton, referencing  the investment overview on  page 2 of                                                               
the Treasury  handout, asked which category  included the State's                                                               
Supplemental Benefits System (SBS) funds.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:31:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bader  replied  that  SBS   was  included  in  the  "Defined                                                               
contribution"  category. It  currently  amounts to  approximately                                                               
two billion dollars.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:31:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton inquired as to who sets the benchmarks.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:31:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bader  responded   that  the  benchmarks  are   set  by  the                                                               
Commissioner of the  Department of Revenue each  year before July                                                               
first  and  are  typically  based   on  other  commonly  accepted                                                               
financial benchmarks.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:32:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman interjected  to note  that the  Committee would                                                               
further  address  the   retirement  system's  administration  and                                                               
function. The  retirement board  is managed  somewhat differently                                                               
than other fields under the Division of Treasury.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:33:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  continued, asking if  the benchmarks on page  3 of                                                               
the handout were "industry standard" for similar portfolios.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:33:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader affirmed,  noting that the State of  Alaska is slightly                                                               
different than a  money market fund in that the  State allows one                                                               
additional month for investment than a money market fund.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:34:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman commented  that the  Permanent Fund  Board, the                                                               
ARMB, and  the Treasury Division would  discuss the establishment                                                               
and function of benchmarks in more detail at a later date.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:34:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked the  function of  the public  school trust                                                               
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:34:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader  informed that the  account was established  many years                                                               
ago and  is used as a  revenue source for the  foundation funding                                                               
formula for public schools.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:35:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  added  that  the fund  is  "fed"  every  year.                                                               
Additional information, including a  "tax book", was available to                                                               
Members for review in conjunction with the Revenue Source Book.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:35:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  assumed diversification and  revenue anticipation                                                               
would be reviewed in a subsequent Committee meeting.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:36:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman affirmed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:36:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman noted  that the  Power Cost  Equalization (PCE)                                                               
endowment  fund was  listed at  $180 million  and asked  when the                                                               
appropriation  made  to  the  fund the  previous  year  would  be                                                               
reflected in the fund balance.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:37:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bader was unsure, but would research the question.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:37:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked that Mr.  Bader provide an estimate on the                                                               
"payout rate"  of the trust  and explain the management  of those                                                               
assets.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bert Stedman adjourned the meeting at 10:39:01 AM.                                                                   

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