Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/09/1994 08:30 AM Senate FIN

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                    SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                          March 9, 1994                                        
                            8:30 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
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  SFC-94, #33, Side 1 (000-550)                                                
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Senator  Steve  Frank,  Co-chair,  convened  the meeting  at                 
  approximately 8:30 a.m.                                                      
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  In addition to  Co-chair Frank,  Senators Kelly, Rieger  and                 
  Sharp were  present.   Co-chair Pearce,  Senators Jacko  and                 
  Kerttula did not attend the meeting.                                         
                                                                               
  ALSO ATTENDING:  Senators Georgianna Lincoln, Johnny  Ellis;                 
  Representatives Joe Sitton, Tom Brice, Bettye Davis; Stephen                 
  Lesko,  Michael Saville,  Virginia  Sargent, Elaine  Hurley,                 
  Brianna Hurley, Shirley Evans, Gerald  Voigt, Howard Hedges,                 
  Duane French, Mark Fresquez; Key  VII Campaign speakers; and                 
  Mike Greany,  Director, Legislative Finance  Division; aides                 
  to committee members and other members of the legislature.                   
                                                                               
  VIA TELECONFERENCE:  The following cities were  listen only:                 
  Barrow, Fairbanks, Bethel, Anchorage and Hope Cottage.                       
                                                                               
  SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                          
                                                                               
       Presentation by the Key VII Campaign.                                   
                                                                               
       Stephen Lesko, Michael Saville,  Elaine Hurley, Shirley                 
       Evans, Gerald Voigt,  Howard Hedges, Duane  French, and                 
       Mark Fresquez, all testified in  support of development                 
       disabilities  funds  as  advocated   in  the  Key   VII                 
       Campaign.                                                               
                                                                               
  CO-CHAIR FRANK  announced that  the committee  would hear  a                 
  presentation  by the  Key VII  Campaign.   He invited  Steve                 
  Lesko, President, Alaska  State Association on Developmental                 
  Disabilities, to introduce the various speakers.                             
                                                                               
  STEVE  LESKO said this  was the seventh year  he had come to                 
  the legislature and  asked all  members of  the audience  to                 
  stand that had  come to speak to  the issues of the  Key VII                 
  Campaign (a  large  number of  people  stood).   Only  seven                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  individuals would actually come before the committee to tell                 
  their stories because of time constraints.                                   
                                                                               
  He  said two  "children"  would  be  addressed today.    The                 
  "child" of  the present which represented  those individuals                 
  in  existing  programs  and  services.   A  rumor  has  been                 
  attached  to  those existing  services  that  said community                 
  programs and services could be cut, their budgets decreased,                 
  but those  people involved  always seemed  to make  it.   He                 
  wanted to dispel  that rumor.   Community services had  been                 
  cut  for the  past five  years.   The average  cost for  one                 
  individual  in  the  community   developmental  disabilities                 
  programs was $16,442  a year  compared to the  cost of  over                 
  $130,000 per year for institutionalization.   He stated that                 
  community programs refused to use people as political pawns.                 
  Budgets had been cut,  every aspect of their  operations had                 
  been decreased that  could be  decreased, and the  community                 
  base was truly eroding.  He  reiterated that people will not                 
  be put out  on the street,  and that a  commitment had  been                 
  made to the people those systems support.                                    
                                                                               
  The other "child" represented  was the waiting  individuals,                 
  549 in total.   He held  stacks of different colored  paper.                 
  Each page numbered represented an individual waiting "child"                 
  in the following region: Southeast Alaska  - 101 people that                 
  need   services;   Northern   Region   -   143;   Harborview                 
  Developmental   Center  -  10  referrals  for  release;  and                 
  Southcentral - 295  (the largest waiting list).  He reminded                 
  everyone that every  page not only represented  a person but                 
  the family or partners that were also extremely stressed.                    
                                                                               
  In conclusion,  he said  the Key  Campaign  had always  been                 
  about building bridges among  people, and bringing community                 
  to people that have been devalued by  society.  He wanted to                 
  emphasize that community service was the most cost effective                 
  of  any  service.   He admitted  the  economy was  bad, that                 
  Alaska was in a fiscal crisis, and the state has been forced                 
  to look at some hard priorities.   He did not see any  other                 
  program as cost effective as $16,442  a person per year.  He                 
  pointed  out that  several years ago,  the waiting  list was                 
  under 150  and now the  list had grown to  549.  He  said we                 
  care about  our Alaskan  families and  love could  build the                 
  bridge -  the love  of leadership,  compassion, caring,  and                 
  action.  He  asked the committee to build a  bridge.  Didn't                 
  they think it was time?                                                      
                                                                               
  MICHAEL SAVILLE testified  that the  cost of living  expense                 
  was not  going to serve new people, but it was necessary for                 
  existing services.  In 1987, community programs had begun to                 
  erode by 16.2 percent.  In spite of work accomplishing a net                 
  increase of 6.5 percent, the cost of living increase of 24.4                 
  percent still left  services 17.9 percent behind  where they                 
  were in 1986.                                                                
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Another cost to be  faced was the 549 people on  the waiting                 
  list.   Most people agreed  that community programs  were in                 
  fact  the most cost  effective use of  state money.   It was                 
  everyone's  responsibility  in  a crisis  to  make  the most                 
  effective programs  for dollars available.  The state had an                 
  option  to  either pay  $16,244 a  person  a year  for those                 
  persons  on  the waiting  list plus  a  2.8 percent  cost of                 
  living, or fail to consider the cost of living and watch the                 
  community  programs  continue to  erode,  the health  of the                 
  programs disappear, and  return to the past and pay $130,000                 
  a year per person.  He said a cost of living increase was  a                 
  hard  reality  but pleaded  with  the committee  to preserve                 
  those  programs  that really  saved  money and  met people's                 
  needs.  The alternative was something no one wanted to face.                 
                                                                               
  GERALD VOIGT introduced his wife, Shirley Evans and daughter                 
  Sophie.    SHIRLEY  EVANS presented  pictures  of  her other                 
  children,  Lelo eight years old, and Ashley, four years old,                 
  to the  committee.   She explained  Lelo had been  diagnosed                 
  with autism and some mental retardation, and in August 1993,                 
  had finally,  after much  effort, secured  adequate help  at                 
  home and school to make family life tolerable.  This enabled                 
  the family to  act as  a unit and  keep Lelo at  home.   The                 
  current  program  had  helped Lelo  show  real  improvement.                 
  Someday, the parents hoped  she would be  able to live in  a                 
  structured,  semi-independent,  community-based  group home.                 
  Unless the progress continued, that  goal would be doubtful.                 
  Her disabilities had warranted institutionalization from the                 
  day she was born.  The parents had hoped that their care and                 
  love, and  support  from community  programs  would  prevent                 
  that.  To date, the family  had given everything possible in                 
  terms of  time, energy, money,  and commitment to  the task.                 
  Without  resources from  state  and  federal programs,  they                 
  would  not  be  able  to  continue.   Lelo  needed  constant                 
  supervision and was  very self-destructive.   Even  visiting                 
  extended families down  south was very difficult,  since one                 
  parent always had to stay behind to care for Lelo.                           
                                                                               
  On February 7, 1994, the level of services had been cut back                 
  resulting in fewer respite  hours and a decrease of  over 50                 
  percent in Lelo's  shared-care hours.  Extending  her school                 
  day was one way to bridge the gap but it had left the family                 
  on  the  edge  without stability.    She  said  that it  was                 
  extremely  frustrating  to  have  to  be  in  crisis to  get                 
  adequate help, and then, when  stabilized, help was reduced,                 
  which threatened  to cycle  the family  again into a  crisis                 
  mode.  This continual stress  cost the family dearly and the                 
  constant worry made it hard to  be productive in daily life.                 
  It would be far more cost  effective, not to mention humane,                 
  to supply the  services needed by  her family so they  could                 
  provide a loving supportive environment for their child.  At                 
  present, the family  received about  $7,000 in  the form  of                 
  shared-care monies, or about $19 per day.  She explained the                 
  family could barely  manage on that amount.   Realistically,                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the family required twice that amount to maintain a balance,                 
  still far below the  price tag of residential services.   It                 
  would cost about  $133,000 if she were  institutionalized or                 
  $365 per  day.  In spite of the numerous problems the family                 
  faces, they have yet found a  place where Lelo would receive                 
  the love, support  and nurturing  that the family  provides.                 
  It was the family's desire to have  Lelo live at home so she                 
  had the opportunity to reach her potential.   She reiterated                 
  the tremendous  difference  adequate support  would make  in                 
  their family  life.   She said,  with the committee's  help,                 
  they could be functional, productive, and able to enjoy each                 
  member of their family.                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR GEORGIANNA LINCOLN  asked what the difference  would                 
  be for  the family if they received $40  per day.  Mr. Voigt                 
  said it would make a difference in support when Lelo was not                 
  in  school.   Ms.  Evans added  that  originally the  family                 
  received four hours per weekday and ten hours on the weekend                 
  of respite care.  Now, the family is receiving two hours per                 
  weekday and only six hours on the weekend.  Adequate funding                 
  had provided the family  enough in order to maintain.   When                 
  that funding was  removed, Lelo's  progress was stalled  and                 
  they feared they would not be able to keep Lelo at home.                     
                                                                               
  VIRGINIA SARGENT, from Kodiak,  said that she had  a 40-year                 
  old developmentally disabled son who was in the Hope Cottage                 
  program.  She  said Kodiak was  taking care of the  children                 
  from these communities: Port Moller, Kaquyak, Seldovia, Fort                 
  Yukon, Tanana, Larsen Bay,  Wasilla, Kodiak, Shaviorik,  and                 
  False  Pass.   She  would be  forwarding  25 letters  to the                 
  committee members from  those communities.   She went on  to                 
  say that  the Hope  Cottage program  was in  the process  of                 
  buying a home  some people lived  in, and fund raisers  were                 
  being held.  She  wanted the committee to know that  the Key                 
  Campaign was  not  asking  for  total support.    They  were                 
  willing to help themselves but could not do it all.                          
                                                                               
  MARK FRESQUEZ, who is  deaf, began to sign his  testimony to                 
  the committee without speaking.   He then stopped, read  and                 
  signed  his  written testimony  (see  Attachment A,  copy on                 
  file).   After reading,  he fell  silent for  a long  while,                 
  gathering his thoughts.   He added  that he just wanted  the                 
  committee to know  that they  had the power  to make  things                 
  happen, to change  things.  As a matter of fact, he said, it                 
  is all in your hands.  He was not there to  criticize anyone                 
  because no  one was at  fault.  He  suggested people  may be                 
  slow in learning the differences  between each other and how                 
  we each survived  our lives.   He hoped the committee  would                 
  consider  the increment  to  add  services  to the  deaf  in                 
  Alaska.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Steve  Lesko  than  brought  a   large  trophy  forward  and                 
  explained  it  had  been  won  at  the  national   level  by                 
  Developmental Disability Services in Alaska.                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ELAINE HURLEY introduced  her daughter Brianna who  was in a                 
  wheelchair.    Yesterday she  had  spoken to  the Governor's                 
  Council regarding "waivers and options".  She explained that                 
  prior to "waivers and  options", the way to obtain  Medicaid                 
  eligibility for a child was  to either impoverish the family                 
  or place  the  child in  a  foster  home.   She  and  Brenda                 
  Trumbell had both been  forced to place their children  in a                 
  foster home.   She felt  that was criminal.   In tears,  she                 
  explained  that her daughter had  just returned home but she                 
  had  lost a  year and a  half of  their life together.   She                 
  stated that the state was paying to keep other children like                 
  hers out of the family home because they did not qualify for                 
  the "waivers or  options."  She  wanted the state to  choose                 
  better priorities and put people first.                                      
                                                                               
  HOWARD HEDGES said he would like to speak to the Independent                 
  Living  Center in Homer  and how it  had positively effected                 
  his life.  He  had a stroke almost a year ago  that left him                 
  with partial  paralysis,  left-sided  weakness,  and  speech                 
  problems.   He went  on to describe  his life's career  as a                 
  musician, his  diabetes, and  the inability  to qualify  for                 
  affordable health insurance.   He  described his stroke  and                 
  the  long  path back  to recovery.    Because of  the health                 
  system,  and  his  huge  medical  bills, he  had  considered                 
  suicide  as a  way  out  of  his  problems.    He  gave  the                 
  Independent Living Center  in Homer  much credit in  helping                 
  him recover and pursue help from  other agencies such as the                 
  Division  of  Vocational  Rehabilitation.    He  wanted  the                 
  committee  to  know that  next  year the  Independent Living                 
  Center  in Homer  would  be  staffed  only by  an  answering                 
  machine and  benefits would not  be provided to  people that                 
  truly  needed   them.    He   asked  for  support   for  the                 
  continuation  of   this  service   when  it   came  up   for                 
  consideration.                                                               
                                                                               
  DUANE  FRENCH  acknowledged  that  the  state was  "fiscally                 
  challenged"  (putting  it  in disability  terms).    The Key                 
  Campaign  offered an option  and a new  direction when tough                 
  decisions  must  be  made,  and  changes  must  be  made  to                 
  services.   He felt the  way to do  that was to  move beyond                 
  state bureaucracy and to empower local community programs to                 
  meet the needs of people in those communities throughout the                 
  state.  By doing that, the state would be providing services                 
  in the most cost effective way.   He noted Michael Saville's                 
  testimony regarding cost  of living increases.   He said  in                 
  the state system, cost of  living increases are automatic in                 
  contracts with  state employees.   The  people in  community                 
  based programs have been operating in the most efficient and                 
  cost-effective manner possible and have provided services to                 
  far more individuals with disabilities than  the bureaucracy                 
  could imagine to provide.  The  Key Campaign asked the state                 
  to  meet the needs of those people and their families on the                 
  waiting lists.   He  said that  the needs  of many  disabled                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  people have been  met in very  creative ways and  encouraged                 
  the legislators to give their support.                                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Frank  thanked  the Key  VII  Campaign  people for                 
  testifying before the committee.                                             
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 9:15 a.m.                         

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