Legislature(1993 - 1994)
02/15/1993 11:20 AM Senate FIN
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MINUTES SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE February 15, 1993 11:20 a.m. TAPES SFC-93, #20, Side 2 (561-001) SFC-93, #22, Side 1 (001-561) SFC-93, #22, Side 2 (561-120) CALL TO ORDER Senator Drue Pearce, Co-chair, convened the meeting at approximately 11:20 a.m. PRESENT In addition to Co-chairs Pearce and Frank, Senators Kelly, Rieger, and Sharp were present. Senator Kerttula arrived while the meeting was in progress. Senator Jacko was not present. ALSO ATTENDING: Gina Marie Lindsey, Director, Anchorage International Airport; John Unger, Controller, Alaska International Airport System; Robert Bullock, Manager, Fairbanks International Airport; and D. Randy Simmons, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation and Public Facilities; Mike Greany, Director, and Karen Rehfeld, Fiscal Analyst, Legislative Finance Division; and aides to committee members. SUMMARY INFORMATION SB 50 - An Act making appropriations for capital projects; and providing for an effective date. Budget Overviews were conducted for the following department: Department of Transportation & Public Facilities Anchorage and Fairbanks International Airports Overview by the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities Anchorage and Fairbanks International Airports C0-CHAIR DRUE PEARCE invited Gina Marie Lindsey, Director, Anchorage International Airport, Robert Bullock, Manager, Fairbanks International Airport, D. Randy Simmons, Deputy Commissioner, and John Unger, Controller, Alaska International Airport System, Department of Transportation & Public Facilities, to join members at the committee table and proceed with their presentation. GINA MARIE LINDSEY, Director, Anchorage International Airport offered to give the committee an overview of the airport systems. She said that counter to the rest of the country, Alaska's domestic passenger traffic for both airports was up about eight percent. Cargo has been up a couple of percentage points but in the last four to six months there has been a bit of a downturn. She projected a flat cargo outlook in general because of the world economy, and, in part, to the cancellation of several Federal Express flights. She stated 1993 was to be a low point for both airports with a projected 65 percent downturn. This year, international passenger traffic was down about 58 percent from 1988, the highest year. Ms. Lindsey said the master plan for the Anchorage airport will help with more current forecasts. She indicated Fairbanks' plan was still in work. The land use plan was being revised and a comprehensive development plan was being formed for the Anchorage airport. Low cost alternatives were being identified to manage the general aviation side of the Anchorage airport with the decision not to move ahead with expansion. Marketing continues to center on cargo development, and alternatives were being sought for international carriers to make transfers to domestic carriers in Anchorage. Other efforts were being made to reinstate service for direct Europe and Asia passenger service out of Alaska. The economic conditions of all the carriers made this a slow process. Ms. Lindsey said the airline industry was in a crisis internationally but especially in the U.S. The airports were receiving pressure from carriers to reduce costs. She said that the airport system was trying to be sensitive to this situation without being reactionary. It wanted to maintain a safe and efficient operation. Industry-wide, for the last 10-15 years, airport costs have remained about three to four percent of a carriers operating costs. She stated, in relation to the operating and capital budgets, requests are intended to be frugal without letting the economic woes of 1992 compromise the future of the airports and the traveling public. SENATOR TIM KELLY asked what the long range plan was for the international terminal in Anchorage. He wondered if, instead of building expensive additions to the domestic terminal, if the international terminal could be used for domestic traffic. Ms. Lindsey said a task force had been looking at that issue. She agreed that the international wing of the terminal is under utilized. A decision must be made to do a major modification for domestic carriers or leave it in hopes that international travel will increase. A modification would leave four gates for international traffic, and would allow domestic use for the other four gates. She explained the international terminal was designed for wide-body aircraft so there is inadequate baggage facilities. The modification would run between $18- 20M. Final judgement would not be made until an engineering evaluation of C concourse in the old terminal was completed and reviewed. Ms. Lindsey said that there were quite a few requests in the capital budget for terminal projects. She stated C concourse is in major disrepair. The choices are to make a large investment in C concourse to keep it operational, rebuild it, or demolish it, and refigure the north international terminal for domestic flights. Again, the missing piece of information was the engineering evaluation which will be completed in the next three or four months. Ms. Lindsey, in answer to Senator Kelly's question, said C concourse was built in the late 1950s. Discussion followed between Senator Kelly, Ms. Lindsey and John Unger regarding operating costs and revenue funding procedures. Co-Chair Pearce asked Ms. Lindsey to describe the process regarding the operating agreement with carriers in terms of projects and their priorities. Ms. Lindsey said that each year a capital budget request was sent to the carriers in early July for review. In mid-July, those projects outlined in the capital budget were discussed. In thirty days, the carriers have a right to vote on each of the projects. If 67 percent of the signatory carriers vote against a project, the airport system will delay the project for one year. The following year, the airport system may bring that project up again. Even if the carriers vote the project down again, the airport system may decide to go ahead with the project the next year. She indicated that signatory carriers do change from time to time. Each carrier has one vote no matter how many passengers they carry. There are about 25 signatories in the system at present. She said that carriers contract airport space for five year terms, and, even if a carrier leaves, they pay for the space they rented unless another carrier takes over that space, and, theoretically, still have a vote. SENATOR STEVE FRANK asked if a balance was maintained in the international airport fund and the amount. JOHN UNGER, Controller, Alaska International Airport System, said there was approximately $70M in the fund. He explained $40M was set aside for capital projects underway that had been appropriated over the years. He said there were minimum requirements for balances that had to be maintained. Senator Frank asked how the $40M in capital appropriations would be funded. Mr. Unger said a bulk of the projects were eligible for federal funds. Ms. Lindsey went on to explain that Anchorage and Fairbanks airports have both passenger and cargo entitlements resulting in $7M for Anchorage and almost $1M for Fairbanks. Every year the airport system has access to at least that amount of money. The capital budget request identifies projects in excess of that amount. On a national level, there is a discretionary pot of FAA money that could be competed for, on a project for project basis, over and above the $8M. He said timing was a factor in receiving any of that federal money. Senator Frank asked if this $8M was just for international airports and separate from other federal funding. Ms. Lindsey said $4M of the passenger entitlements would be able to be applied to other smaller airports. But, because air carriers were supporting the other costs of the airports through their rates and fees, the airport system agreed that all money earned at Anchorage and Fairbanks would be spent at those airports. In answer to Senator Frank's question, Ms. Lindsey said that the request for Anchorage airport was a little higher this year. She said the airport cut the revenue fund portion of the capital budget last year by about 50 percent. This year terminal design and modification money is making it higher. $3M is slated for the repair and rehabilitation of C Concourse. Senator Frank asked about the largest appropriation, $11M for Old International Airport Road reconstruction. He asked if this road project was contingent on federal funds. Ms. Lindsey said this project would be phased over several years but legislative authorization was being sought this year. She said this project was expected to be funded at 93.7 percent with federal funds. She indicated a lot of utility work would have to be done in connection with the road project. Senator Kelly asked who makes the decision to bond debt. Ms. Lindsey said the carriers in the contract process want as much bond debt as possible since it delays their obligation. The airport system takes the opposite, more conservative approach and wants cash funding. So far it has worked out for fair and equitable rates for the carriers. John Unger added that bonding projects in the past were big projects. Examples were the $6M parking garage and the international terminal for $23M. He said that the C concourse rebuild might qualify for a bonding project. Senator Kelly asked what the debt service was every year for the airports. Mr. Unger said that it ran about $7M and came out of the international revenue fund. Last year it came down and because of refinancing, it may go down as low as $4.3M this year. Senator Kelly felt that was a high debt service. Mr. Unger said that it was relative low compared to other airports. Senator Kelly asked if expansion was not predicted why was the airport spending money on expansion projects. Ms. Lindsey said that the only expansion project was the north terminal for bag area modification in the amount of $4M. Discussion followed between SENATOR STEVE RIEGER, Senator Kelly, and Mr. Unger regarding revenues, bond revenue, operating expenses, and debt service for the airport system. It was determined there were no bond proposals pending for projects at this time. It seemed none of the proposed projects were large enough for bond proposals if the airport system did not receive some of its requested money. In answer to Senator Kelly's question regarding Federal Express, Ms. Lindsey felt that even though a flight had been dropped, the company seemed to be experiencing a steady business growth. Regarding the Alaska hanger, Ms. Lindsey said that it has been cancelled for at least the next five years. SENATOR JAY KERTTULA asked if there was any bond money in the construction of the international terminal. Ms. Lindsey said that she believed it was not funded by bond money. She also indicated it was not making money. Ms. Lindsey felt that there would not be any increase in international travel in the next few years. She explained that the problem with using the international terminal for domestic traffic was that it was built about four feet too high for domestic carriers. The modification was possible but very expensive. Senator Kerttula suggested that next time an architect might be able to design a terminal with multi-use in mind. In answer to Co-chair Pearce's question, Ms. Lindsey said the airports landing fees were very comparable with competitors such as Portland or Los Angeles. In answer to Senator Kelly's inquiry, Ms. Lindsey said passenger facility charges (PFC's) had been authorized over two years ago. Carriers are asking the airport system to charge this fee but the airport system does not want to initiate it until a specific project is identified that could be tied to the fee. Hopefully, it would be a project that was visible and of benefit to the public. Mr. Unger said it would raise about $300.0 a year and was not sure how much of a bond that would finance. He indicated, by federal law, PFC's could only be used for capital projects. In fact, he said, some federal funds could be lost if PFC's were initiated. Senator Frank asked for more specific information about PFC's. Mr. Unger and Ms. Lindsey explained each passenger could be charged a PFC of $1 to $3, at the first two stops of a flight. A PFC is an exception to an anti-head tax law in effect. The PFC could not be charged to just tourists, for instance. Senator Frank asked why this fee wasn't charged as a cost and included in the landing fees of the carrier. Mr. Unger said that landing fees needed to be kept as competitive as possible. Ms. Lindsey said that landing fees were determined by the weight of the aircraft not by how many passengers or how much cargo was on board. Ms. Lindsey said that gate fees and terminal space rent by carriers made up the difference for passenger use in the terminal. Mr. Unger said a PFC could be included in the ticket price, and then the airline would reimburse a certain percentage of the PFC back to the airport system. Senator Kerttula asked if fire stations were built by bond money and was there more fire support than needed. Ms. Lindsey said that fire stations were not financed with bond money. She said the new fire station had made the other two obsolete. She did not know if they had a 24-hour crew. Co-chair Pearce directed attention to Fairbanks International Airport requests. Mr. Unger said both airports normally submit their capital projects together. Three capital projects this year were being presented. The first was for environmental assessment and clean up in the amount of $1M. This would provide for an environmental cleanup evaluation, and each airport could then draw on funds for its projects. After the $1M funding was exhausted, more money would be requested. End SFC-93 #20, Side 2 Begin SFC-93 #22, Side 1 The second capital project authorized the airport system to accept capital contributions and receive reimbursement for work requested by airport tenants, private citizens, or other agencies on capital construction projects. In answer to Senator Rieger's question, Ms. Lindsey said one example was a soffit project above the ticket counter. Since the airport system required the carrier to build the soffit, it reimbursed the carrier the cost of the required project, or, if the airport system financed a redesign, the carrier could reimburse its allocated costs to the airport system through this authorization. She said there were not any specific projects in mind for the authorization. Discussion followed between Co-chair Frank, Senator Kelly, John Unger and Ms. Lindsey regarding this authorization and how it provides a mechanism for receiving and expending already authorized funds. Co-chair Pearce asked if the deliberation on this issue could continue in the operating budget meeting for central region airports. Mr. Unger continued with the third capital project in the amount of $350.0. It will purchase a central processing unit and UNIX operating system for each airport. The installation of UNIX will save $50.0 a year to DOA, speed up response time, and give the system the ability to network existing MacIntosh and IBM personal computers. Senator Rieger asked for backup information listing exactly what this project would fund. Mr. Unger reiterated that the existing Wang system would be replaced. Co-chair Pearce directed attention to the Anchorage airport projects. Ms. Lindsey said the first project would upgrade and replace the centerline and edge lighting on runway 6R/24L. The cost would be $2,760.0, and would receive federal funding at 93 percent. The next project was in the amount of $500.0, and provided for the construction of an uninsulated shell on a concrete slab foundation to house sand, urea and other winter airfield deicing agents. This is also identified with federal funding in the amount of $450.0. Senator Rieger asked what determined the percentage of federal funding. Ms. Lindsey said a terminal project would be approximately 50 percent federally funded but some elements would not be funded at all. The next project was an annual funding request for $650.0 to meet Anchorage airport needs that arise during the year and cannot be foreseen during the budget planning process. In answer to Co-chair Pearce, Ms. Lindsey said that this request has been the same amount for the past three or four years. The auto ramp support column repair request would cost $1M. It would bring the domestic terminal auto ramp up to current earthquake and other standards. This is the second phase of a two year project. RANDY SIMMONS, Deputy Commissioner, DOT/PF, said existing construction used on this ramp was the same used on the one that collapsed in the San Francisco earthquake. Ms. Lindsey said this revenue fund request of $3.0M had to do with C concourse repair, rehabilitation, or replacement pending the engineering evaluation. If there were elements that could be federally authorized, the request would be changed to reflect that. At Senator Kelly's inquiry, she said that federal funds were very restrictive when it came to terminal projects. The next project was $100.0 for the CFR boat house replacement. It will also provide new piling, boat slips, and snow machine storage for crash, fire, and rescue missions on the lake. The next revenue funded project is domestic terminal floor covering in the amount of $400.0. It will replace carpeting in Concourse B, Concourse B hex area, and the ticket counter lobby. The garage rehabilitation and repair project is a preventive maintenance project at a cost of $415.0. It will include interior and exterior painting, sealing of wall cracks, broken drain repair, canopy for 4th level elevator area, security fencing, security doors, and elevator glass safety wall. In answer to Senator Kelly, Mr. Unger said that parking garage revenues amounted to about $2.3M because of recently raised rates. The next project was general aviation improvements, phase I and II in the amount of $2.0M. Ms. Lindsey said that an extensive plan for the lakes and relocation of the Lake Hood strip had been abandoned because of financial and environmental problems. A variety of improvements are being prioritized through public meetings and the master planning process. Federal receipts will pay for most of this project. The Lake Hood water and sewer extension is a revenue funded project in the amount of $325.0. It will provide tenants on the south side of the lake with public water and sewer. It will also improve fire protection reducing insurance rates. The north terminal modification construction is a $4M project eligible for anticipated federal funding of $3M. It would provide baggage facilities for the international terminal. Ms. Lindsey indicated the only planes using that terminal were the larger ones because of the terminal design. The next project is the Old International Airport Road reconstruction in the amount of $11.0M with federal receipts expected at $9.9M. Ms. Lindsey said that construction would not start for another couple of years. In answer to Co- chair Pearce, Ms. Lindsey said that she did not think any planes still crossed the road. Co-chair Frank pointed out that total requests amounted to over $20.0M in federal receipt authority requests. Ms. Lindsey said, if the airport system was unsuccessful in receiving federal receipts, it would have to extend the projects over a period of several years. John Unger agreed that the airport system would have to come back to the legislature if it wanted to change federal receipts to international airport funds. The next project is an annual request for operations and maintenance equipment replacement in the amount of $779.0. Federal receipts are expected to be $469.0 for several snow plows. The runway 14/32 instrument landing system site preparation is the next project at a cost of $3,775.0. Federal receipts cover $3,332.0. She said this amount was in addition to a prior request of $2M. She noted an EIS had received negative input. Ms. Lindsey did not know if the carriers were still in support of this project. She felt it would enhance the airport but the airport system awaited the final EIS results. Discussion followed between Senator Rieger and Ms. Lindsey regarding the extent of the site preparation. The next project is terminal design at $4.5M with a federal funding receipt estimated to be $1,690.0. This project is as yet undefined and will be determined after the engineering evaluation and discussions with the airlines. Discussion followed between Senator Kelly, Co-chair Frank, and Ms. Lindsey regarding a mid-field terminal proposal and the problems with the international terminal modification. The South Airpark water line construction is the next project at $900.0 with no federal funding expected. This also would reduce the fire insurance premiums for the tenants in this area. The taxiway Romeo extension and interlinks is an airfield project that was identified by the carriers and FAA to help eliminate congestion. It has a cost of $2,265.0 with federal receipts expected at $2,120.0. The next revenue project is phase II of the terminal reroofing in the amount of $1.5M. The last project for Anchorage was the West Air Park development in the amount of $1.0M with federal receipts expected at $900.0. This funding would provide negotiation and acquisition of land adjoining the west side of the airport. ROBERT BULLOCK, Manager, Fairbanks International Airport, directed attention to the Fairbanks airport projects. He said that Fairbanks was also seeing about eight percent passenger growth. The challenge was the increasing demand on terminal and parking facilities but at discounted passenger ticket prices. Capital and operating costs are a major concern for the carriers. The master plan projected a four to five percent growth. He explained the budget reflected maintenance and upgrades to the airport. End SFC-93 #22, Side 1 Begin SFC-93 #22, Side 2 The first project was annual improvements in the amount of $300.0. Similar to Anchorage, this request meets unforseen improvements or repairs. The second project is field lighting upgrades in the amount of $990.0 with federal receipts at $890.0. This upgrade and repair is for the main runway. The third request is for operations and maintenance equipment replacement for $785.0. It is higher than last year's request but necessary because of the equipment needed. Federal receipts are expected to be $197.0. In answer to Co-chair Pearce, Mr. Bullock indicated that the only eligible item for federal funding was the snow plow. The fourth request was a safety area stabilization at a cost of $300.0 with federal receipts expected to be $270.0. It would extend the asphalt about 15 feet to help control erosion along the entire length of the runway. The last project is a revenue funded installation of water and sewer mains from Delta Road south to the end of West Industrial Road at a cost of $1,010.0. The water portion of this request is a high priority for fire security. It will provide a close source of water for hydrants for the fuel farm. The sewer portion is complicated because of permitting and installation problems. Senator Kelly asked how Anchorage and Fairbanks airports divided monies received. Mr. Bullock said that both airports worked closely together, listened to carrier input together, and continued to look at the overall needs of both airports. Co-chairs Frank and Pearce requested that Legislative Finance prepare a memo to explain how authority is given to a department to receive and expend funds. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at approximately 1:00 p.m.
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