Legislature(1993 - 1994)
02/04/1993 09:10 AM Senate FIN
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MINUTES SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE February 4, 1993 9:10 a.m. TAPES SFC-93, #12, Side A (001-561) SFC-93, #12, Side B (561-001) SFC-93, #14, Side A (001-561) CALL TO ORDER Senator Drue Pearce, Co-chair, convened the meeting at approximately 9:10 a.m. PRESENT In addition to Co-chair Pearce, Senators Kelly, Kerttula, Rieger, and Sharp were present. Co-chair Frank arrived while the meeting was in progress. Senator Jacko was not present. ALSO ATTENDING: Commissioner Nancy Bear Usera, Department of Administration; Deputy Commissioner Brian Saylor, and Deputy Commissioner Jay Livey, Department of Health & Social Services; Commissioner Carl Rosier, Director Larry Jones, Division of Administration, and Dave Kelleyhouse, Director, Division of Wildlife Conservation, Department of Fish and Game; Mike Greany, Director, and Karen Rehfeld, Fiscal Analyst, Legislative Finance Division; and aides to committee members. SUMMARY INFORMATION SB 50 - An Act making appropriations for capital projects; and providing for an effective date. Budget Overviews were conducted for the following departments: Department of Administration Department of Health & Social Services Department of Fish and Game Department of Revenue was rescheduled. Overview by the Department of Administration C0-CHAIR DRUE PEARCE invited Commissioner Nancy Bear Usera, Department of Administration, to join members at the committee table and proceed with the department presentation. COMMISSIONER USERA directed the committee's attention to a handout titled "Department of Administration FY 94 CIP Request", (copy on file. The first project would fund a forms management system which would streamline paper flow and accomplish the first step toward a single employee database at a cost of $250.0. Ms. Usera stated the second request was for an update of the procurement system automation from paper to on-line retrieval and distribution in the amount of $71.9. Ms. Usera noted that an electronic bulletin board system could be integrated into this system to consolidate purchases made by the department. Ms. Usera said last year the public defender's office in Anchorage received computer work stations. This year the request for $53.8 was for updating their phone system. An assessment of the repair and renovation of the Pioneers' Home was $12M. This year an audit was done to identify all necessary changes, repairs and rehabilitation to bring the homes up to standards. She felt $3M would cover critical priorities. She noted a lump sum had been included in DOT/PF CIP request to meet ADA requirements. $1.7M of that lump sum would be used for bringing the Pioneers' Homes up to ADA requirements. SENATOR JAY KERTTULA observed that DOT/PF had done a poor job of providing maintenance for the Pioneers' Homes. He said the roof had been rebuilt on the Palmer Pioneers' Home and within a very short time the roof had to be rebuilt. He asked Commissioner Usera if the department would be able to monitor maintenance performance. Ms. Usera believed quality control was very important and would ask how the quality of the maintenance was determined and if there was a problem, DOT should be held accountable for any problems. The last two requests were for program receipts funding. Ms. Usera said the state surplus property recycling system was working very well. In Anchorage, the warehouse was large enough but needed insulation and heat and a purchase of a flat bed truck would replace an older unsafe vehicle. In answer to Senator Kerttula's question, Ms. Usera said program receipts did cover the whole management program. SENATOR STEVE RIEGER asked how much of the Pioneers' Homes repair and renovation was due to a change in codes, such as underground storage tanks, etc. and which of these expenditures really had to be done immediately. Ms. Usera answered the department felt $12M of these repairs and renovations needed to be done immediately, $2M of which was ADA requirements and $3M were immediate needs. In all, the department felt $100M was the overall cost of repair and renovation, some of which was enhancement for better program delivery for the residents, etc. She had not read the entire engineer's report but would provide a more detailed itemization if the committee requested it. CO-CHAIR STEVE FRANK remained unconvinced that fire marshall's were looking at cost to the state whenever they made judgments to change the fire code which in turn caused renovation to state facilities. Ms. Usera agreed that a major frustration for the department was meeting all the different fire and safety codes. Co-chair Pearce asked Commissioner Usera if the department and the Pioneers' Homes were working with DOT/PF to move facilities management from other departments into one division. Ms. Usera answered affirmatively. Co-chair Pearce asked if any planning had been done to solve the any of these code problems. Ms. Usera emphatically said an Executive Order was submitted for this very reason and a more effective facilities maintenance program has been pursued. She felt the state was not set up to maintain its real property and a big part of the problem was not having a centralized and coordinated process for facilities management. She stated the Pioneers' Homes were a big part of this program and the residents' safety was of great concern. SENATOR TIM KELLY asked, on another subject, if someone from the Department of Administration would come before the committee and explain the financial actuarial picture in relation to the state retirement system. Co-chair Pearce reviewed the schedule for next week's Senate Finance meetings. Overview by the Department of Health & Social Services Co-chair Pearce invited Deputy Commissioner Brian Saylor, and Deputy Commissioner Jay Livey, Department of Health & Social Services, to join members at the committee table and proceed with the department presentation. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER BRIAN SAYLOR invited the committee's attention to the handout titled Department of Health and Social Services FY94 Capital Budget" (copy on file), which prioritized the seven items of the total capital budget request for $24,634.2. He said two basic themes characterized the budget requests. The first issues were directly related to fire, life safety and building integrity. Secondly, the department wanted to enhance program efficiency and effectiveness. Mr. Saylor directed attention to priority 1 in the amount of $3,207. which would fund renovation, repair, and replacement of state facilities including ADA compliance efforts, completion of the McLaughlin Youth Center fire and utility controls, youth holding facility in Ketchikan, and repair of the ECTA roof in Anchorage. Priority 2 would address computers and communications programs enhancement. The request is in the amount of $4,476.6. This would include a department-wide E-Mail system, a redesign of the Eligibility Information System (EIS), Harborview computer upgrades to enhance medicaid billing and client services, a Family and Youth Services (F&YS) upgrade to link most social workers into the system, and the Resource Patient Management Systems (RPMS) upgrade to link in Indian Health Services especially in the rural areas. Mr. Saylor agreed with Co-chair Pearce's question that the totals on the priority 2 page were incorrect and agreed to provide a correct figure to the committee. SENATOR STEVE RIEGER asked who would redesign the department's computer system. Mr. Saylor said except for the EIS system, an internal committee would insure the department's computer system was compatible and that software would support that system. A larger computer committee in the Dept. of Administration insured all computer equipment was compatible. He said the department had a recent information technology plan that was published and available to the committee. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER JAY LIVEY added an outside consultant had been contracted and a steering committee made up of members of DOHSS, a member of O&B and several members of the Division of Information Services. Senator Kerttula observed that these computer upgrades could allow case workers to handle a larger case load and asked for an estimate of the increase in production so the committee could judge the worthiness of the upgrades. Mr. Saylor directed attention to priority 3 funding in the amount of $500.0 for the study of a new public health lab. Priority 4 was the largest request in the amount of $8,873.7 for design and some sitework for API-2000 with a bid package ready by August 1994. At the inquiry of Co-chair Pearce, he informed the committee this project qualified for mental health trust money. Senator Rieger inquired that design alone would cost $100,000 a bed. Mr. Saylor said that some site work was included in the $8,873.7 funding such as preliminary utility work, modular structures and some site preparation. He will provide the committee with a specific breakdown of the site work. Senator Rieger than asked if the total construction cost to complete the building would be $65M. Mr. Saylor answered that the total cost would be closer to $68M and would include equipment, furnishings, design, etc. He pointed out that $5M had already been expended over the past few years in the planning of the entire mental health system with the mental health board, working with DOC on the issue of a forensic hospital, and other related planning costs which brought the total for the entire project to $13M. The balance would come before the legislature as an appropriation request to finish the structure. He admitted it was a big project. Senator Kerttula inquired whether any mental health funds would be used for funding of this project. End SFC-93 #12, Side 1 Begin SFC-93 #12, Side 2 Mr. Saylor understood that the mental health trust fund did have available funds for this project. He pointed out it cost approximately $1M a year to keep API functioning. He said the facility was aging, pipes were breaking, and there were asbestos problems, therefore consultants had advised construction of a new building. Co-chair Pearce felt replacing a building after forty years was not acceptable. Discussion followed between Co-chair Frank and Senator Kerttula regarding building construction and code requirements. Co-chair Pearce asked what innovative ideas were used in the lower 48 states to contend with the changing of codes and building requirements. In response, Mr. Saylor offered the committee a review of the consultant's estimate of construction costs. He felt API estimated construction costs were in line with recent similar construction in the lower 48. Other concessions had been made to keep the facility as small as possible. The new facility, estimated to be completed by 1997, with a proposed 114 bed capacity would hopefully be able to accommodate population growth up to the year 2010. Last year the proposed estimate was 130 beds. He hoped the mental health care program would become more sophisticated and help keep people out of hospitals. Senator Rieger asked why federal requirements had to be met when the facility was built with state funds. Mr. Saylor answered he would supply the committee information regarding the federal hospital requirement standards that had to be followed. Mr. Saylor explained priority 5 was related to the construction of API in that community services would need to be maintained to keep people out the hospital, reduce their length of stay by early discharge, and maintain these individuals in their home communities so the recidivism rate could be kept as low as possible. He said the department had made a commitment to the Mental Health Board to support the capital needs of community facilities in a competitive grant and aid process. Priority 6 is related to API. It is an appropriation for repairs to keep API running. Mr. Saylor stated priority 7 would fund the last phase of an upgrade to the Harborview Steam Plant. In answer to Senator Rieger's question, Mr. Saylor agreed to provide information as to what amount of these funds were needed to repair underground storage tanks at Harborview . Co-chair Frank asked if DOT personnel maintained the Harborview Steam Plant and what was the amount of the charge back to the department. Mr. Saylor said he would provide the amount of charge back to the department. Senator Kerttula explained that when the steam plant was built, providing jobs was more of a concern than automation. Overview by the Department of Fish & Game Co-chair Pearce invited Commissioner Carl Rosier, and Larry Jones, Director, Department of Fish & Game, to join members at the committee table and proceed with the department presentation. COMMISSIONER ROSIER directed the committee's attention to a handout titled "Prioritized CIP Projects (1/27/93) Department of Fish & Game FY94", (copy on file). The first priority was a department-wide and area-wide facility maintenance and repair request for $1,825.0 which included fuel tank replacement, roof repairs, upgrading laboratory, float renovations, etc. The second priority was a request for $420.0 to continue the waterfowl conversation and enhancement program for three years. Commissioner Rosier explained these funds had been deposited into the general fund by the sale of prints and the waterfowl stamp program. The state greed that the money would go back into the stamp program, providing access for hunters to waterfowl areas, and other waterfowl enhancement programs were carried out by DF&G. Senator Kerttula asked if any programs would affect the upland grouse. Commissioner Rosier said the department was supportive of the group that had formed in the Fairbanks area but no programs were in place by the Department. SENATOR BERT SHARP asked what percentage of the funding was used in habitat improvement. Commissioner Rosier asked Dave Kelleyhouse, Director, Division of Wildlife Conservation, Department of Fish & Game, to join him at the table. DAVE KELLEYHOUSE answered that his staff had prepared a breakdown of the $113.0 spent as of October 22, 1993 as follows: Dan Rosenberg's salary $1,600; Creamer's Pond rehabilitation $45.0; Clam Lagoon waterfowl viewing area in cooperation with U.S. Fish & Wildlife (Ducks Unlimited matching funds), $5.0; administration of the stamp program, $3.5; and private property acquisition through the Nature Conservancy, $17.9. He felt the waterfowl program was very much "on the ground." In 1987, the legislature appropriated $850.0 in the CIP with the understanding the art prints would be sold to reimburse the general fund that appropriation and the department would receive any excess of funds from the sale of prints. To date, $2.1M had gone back into the general fund and this CIP request was in the amount of that excess, $420.0 so the waterfowl program could continue. All the funds of the original CIP will be expended by June 30, 1993. LARRY JONES, Director, Division of Administration, Department of Fish and Game confirmed that there was only one appropriation in the amount $850.0 in 1987. Co-chair Pearce asked for a breakdown of the expenditures for the program in 1991. Senator Kelly also ask for a breakdown of the $1.2M revenue that had come back into the general fund. Commissioner Rosier stated the third priority would fund major annual vessels maintenance and the continuation of the outfitting of the R/V Medela. This vessel was a replacement vessel for the vessel Steller found to be unsafe and would serve southeast in a research capability. The department felt it would approximately cost an additional $.5M to finish outfitting the Medela. He explained the vessel was usable but needed to have equipment added for research requirements. The department also was considering a joint use project with the University for this vessel. Co-chair Pearce asked if Commissioner Rosier had been party to any of the negotiations by DOL to obtain two vessels from a fisheries company in lieu of a fine. Commissioner Rosier said he had been party to some of the meetings and expected one of the new vessels to be given to DF&G and the other to DOS if the negotiations were successful. He said both DF&G and DOS needed major support vessels in the Bering Sea. Senator Kerttula asked if any connections existed between Russian and Alaska for the cooperation of surveillance in the Bering Sea area. Commissioner Rosier said no cooperative enforcement effort had been formed with Russia but considering the large amount of Russian product coming into the U.S. and the joint venture operations involving American vessels, this issue needed to be addressed. Commissioner Rosier explained the mark tag processing laboratory was the fourth priority. The funding in the amount of $1,100.0 would relocate the laboratory and expand its capability to otolith tag processing. He stressed the importance of this facility in that tag recovery for the entire state was performed by this laboratory and those results determined some decisions regarding the U.S./Canada Pacific Salmon Treaty. Some discussion followed regarding the relocation of the laboratory to another city. End SFC-93 #12, Side 2 Begin SFC-93 #14, Side 1 Commissioner Rosier directed attention to the funding request for public access development for sport fishing in the amount of $2,000.0. This funding would provide a match for three federal dollars to every state dollar. Co-chair Pearce asked if DF&G could provide the on-going list for this program and what projects had been completed in the last three years under this program. She asked who prioritized the projects and made the decisions about what projects would be done. Commissioner Rosier answered he was responsible for those decisions. Discussion followed whether access was primarily for sport or also for food use. Commissioner Rosier agreed that access worked for a dual purpose. Senator Kerttula informed the committee that not much access work had been done in the Anchorage area especially for food sources. He asked the Commissioner how DF&G justified the closure of Big Lake and still wanted to fund other sport areas. Commissioner Rosier agreed to provide the committee with a report on the Department's plan for Big Lake. Senator Sharp preferred the department look into opening up new areas instead of causing existing areas to be more congested. Specifically, he wanted a report from the department regarding the Copper River dip net access program. He agreed with Co-chair Pearce that the Department should provide a list of projects proposed for public access development. Commissioner Rosier explained the funding request of $1,000.0 for Crystal Lake water recirculation project would double the capacity of the facility to promote sport and commercial fisheries by providing more fish production. Commissioner Rosier stated the major equipment replacements request for $141.0 was for department-wide replacement of four-wheelers, snow machines, replacement aircraft engines, etc. for various programs. Discussion followed by Senators Kerttula and Rieger regarding the Department's aircraft and how they were serviced. Dutch Harbor family housing request in the amount of $500.0 would provide housing for employees to expand the Department's role in the management of the Bering Sea fisheries. The Department proposed the purchase a four-plex and in turn would rent the complex to DF&G employees in order to keep a stable work force in that area. Commissioner Rosier turned attention to a $2,200.0 request for a Fairbanks office space addition to the existing DF&G building built in the early 1960s. This would consolidate the Department's employees into one building. Commissioner Rosier explained the Kenai River bank stabilization and restoration project was an on-going project by the Department involving property owners and fishermen. Loss of habitat and loss of personal property were the problems that needed to be solved. In answer to Co-chair Pearce's inquiry, he said the reason this project was in the capital budget was because it represented a one time assessment of the techniques for the protection of bank stabilization, habitat and personal property. Discussion followed by Senators Kerttula, Rieger and Kelly regarding the cost, priority of this project and the kinds of technology being used on the Kenai River. Commissioner Rosier stated the habitat improvement and big game population enhancement funding in the amount of $2.0M was a move to perform intensive game management. This would include prescribed fire and post logging treatment of areas, and the reintroduction of wood bison in the interior. In answer to Co-chair Pearce's question, Mr. Kelleyhouse responded that the Division of Wildlife Conservation had retained a maintenance budget for the past decade. He explained that the operating budget provided for data gathering to advise the Board of Game in their allocation decision making. This funding from the capital budget would provide the Division a one time, short term increase in management emphasis for intensive studies over the next twenty-five years. Co-chair Pearce remained unconvinced this program belonged in the capital budget and asked for a more specific list of projects. Discussion followed between Senator Sharp and Co-chair Pearce regarding how the program would be accomplished and what income would be generated from the increase in hunting license fees. Mr. Kelleyhouse answered the increase would be approximately $300,000 to $500,000. The cost of a hunting license has been increased from $12 to $25. At present there was a decline in the purchase of hunting licenses. He hoped that would improve with the program of habitat and big game population enhancement. Lastly, Commissioner Rosier addressed the Toklat Chum Salmon restoration project with a funding request of $252.0. Phase I would include construction of raceways and incubator systems at the Clear Hatchery to restore the chum salmon population. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at approximately 11:55 a.m.
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