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09/29/2023 09:00 AM Senate SELECT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE ETHICS
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE ETHICS
SEPTEMBER 29, 2023
9:00 AM
FULL COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
9:05:10 AM
1. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Chair Skip Cook called to order the meeting of the Select
Committee on Legislative Ethics at 9:05 AM.
Joyce Anderson conducted roll call.
Roll call
Senator David Wilson (alt for Sen Gary Stevens)
Senator Löki Tobin
Representative Andy Josephson (alt for Rep Sara Hannan)
Conner Thomas
Jerry McBeath
Deb Fancher
Skip Cook
Representative DeLena Johnson (telephonic)
Quorum present.
Skip Cook reminded the committee to identify themselves
before speaking for the benefit of listeners. He said the
meeting was expected to last two to three hours, with an
executive session.
9:06 AM
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (+)
Skip Cook announced there was a change in the agenda,
moving item 10 to the executive session. He entertained a
motion to approve item to the executive session.
Jerry McBeath so moved.
Skip Cook entertained a motion to approve the approve full
committee agenda as amended. Deb Fancher so moved. Hearing
no objections, the motions passed.
9:07 AM
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Skip Cook suggested, given the number of minutes needing
approval, the committee approve all of the minutes as
presented unless there was an objection.
Jerry McBeath moved to approve the minutes of October 13,
2022; January 19, 2023; March 9, 2023; June 12, 2023; July
12; and August 10, 2023.
Joyce Anderson recommended adding to the motion the Senate
Subcommittee meeting minutes of January 19, 2023.
Skip Cook asked if there were objections to the motion to
approve the minutes. Hearing none, the minutes were
approved.
9:08 AM
4. PUBLIC COMMENT
Skip Cook entertained public comment. There was no public
comment.
5. CHAIR/STAFF REPORT
a. Management Log Informal Advice Staff Report (+)
Skip Cook directed Joyce Anderson to speak to the Informal
Advice Staff Report.
Joyce Anderson addressed the staff report of July 10, 2023,
through September 21, 2023. She told the committee she had
a couple of minor changes to the report.
• Page 2: The first sentence of the answer to the
question, May a legislator post pictures taken on a
legislative trip on his/her personal Facebook page for
his/her family and friends to see? should be, The
Ethics Act does not prohibit a legislator from posting
pictures taken on a legislative trip on a personal
Facebook page.
• Page 3: The last sentence in the answer to the
question, May a legislator promote a local block
party in his/her district on legislative social media,
via legislative email and in a legislative newsletter?
May the legislator also post on a personal email and
personal social media?" should be, A legislator may
also post the event on personal social media and email
as long as there is no legislative contact information
as well.
• Page 4: The second to the last sentence of the last
question should be," There is a bill directly related
to the subject matter of the state department meeting
which is before the committee the legislator chairs.
Joyce Anderson entertained questions.
Conner Thomas asked the identity of the "entity" referred
to in the first question: Received a question asking if an
entity that provides collateral for some state loans falls
under the State Benefit and Loan annual review of loans
available to legislators and legislative staff.
Joyce Anderson responded there is an organization that
provides collateral for some state loans.
Conner Thomas asked if it was a state entity.
Joyce Anderson responded that the entity is not a state
entity. She suggested revising the answer to include the
phrase, non-state entity.
Jerry McBeath said he had a couple of questions. He asked
if the campaign referred to in the question, May a
legislative office issue a daily news clip with nationwide
and local articles addressing a variety of issues,
including those of a campaign nature?is the campaign of
the legislator posting the news articles?
Joyce Anderson explained the legislative office in question
compiles a list of news articles from national and local
newspapers. The list is sent to a group of people who have
requested the list. The inquiry received by the Ethics
Office was about the appropriateness of including an
article in the list that related to Donald Trumps
campaign. Joyce Anderson reported that after conducting
research into the question, she determined that the
individual receiving the list has the option or not to read
the article. The list of articles is informational only.
Jerry McBeath asked if there was any filter used to focus
on or exclude a particular legislators campaign.
Joyce Anderson agreed that was a good question, but she had
not pursued it. She asked the committee if they had advice
about the compilation of the list for her to share with the
legislative office next year, a campaign year.
Senator Löki Tobin offered that receiving the list is
voluntary. The list of news articles is compiled as a
service to a caucus. Information also comes from third
party systems, using AI, to produce the list. Selecting the
articles that are included in the list may involve the
ability to write code and other specialized knowledge.
Jerry McBeath asked, given the current political
polarization, if it is possible for the legislator to use
AI to exclude Trump campaign articles or comments.
Senator Löki Tobin explained that no legislator has input
into what is included or not included in the production of
the list. It is compiled by staff, possibly assisted by
third party systems.
Joyce Anderson asked Jerry McBeath if he had another
question.
9:16 AM
Jerry McBeath addressed question 3 on page 2: May a
legislator host a public event during the interim to
promote a legislative bill and also invite a 501(c)(3)
organization to raise awareness of the subject matter of
the bill? Additionally, may the legislator ask for
donations from the attendees to help pay for the 501(c)(3)
organization's travel expenses?
Jerry McBeath opined it was an important question about a
legislator's behavior and activities regarding nonprofit
organizations. He stated that the sentence in the answer,
However, since donations to a non-profit organization are
tax deductible, suggested the legislator ask attendees if
they wanted to contribute to the "cause" of the non-profit
organization raised flags for him. He asked for
confirmation that nonprofits may engage in some political
activity.
Joyce Anderson replied that she was not familiar enough
with nonprofit organizations to answer that.
Senator David Wilson asserted that nonprofit organizations
may take a position on ballot initiatives but not on
candidates.
Jerry McBeath asked if nonprofit organizations are
restricted [from political activity] to a percentage of
their time.
Senator Löki Tobin said nonprofit organizations can
participate in political activity up to 25% of their time.
Jerry McBeath indicated he understood that nonprofit
organizations may participate in political activity, but
the activity is limited. He explained that his particular
concern was with nonprofit organizations with a national
affiliation taking positions on controversial issues.
Joyce Anderson said the nonprofit in question was set up
specifically to prevent child trafficking. The legislator
wanted to know if they could ask if anyone wanted to
contribute to their travel expenses. She told the
legislator that was not a good idea and suggested perhaps
the nonprofit could ask for donations to the cause or to
the organization and the organization could decide how they
wanted to use the funds.
Jerry McBeath said he appreciated Joyce Anderson's
attention to the question, and he wondered if the committee
was comfortable with the answer.
Joyce Anderson entertained further discussion about the
answer.
9:22 AM
Skip Cook wondered if the answer applied generally, or if
it was specific to this question.
Joyce Anderson said she removes identifying information and
that makes the advice apply generally. She asked for
direction from the committee.
Jerry McBeath replied that he wouldnt answer yes to the
first question, [May a legislator host a public event
during the interim to promote a legislative bill and also
invite a 501(c)(3) organization to raise awareness of the
subject matter of the bill?] because doing so seems to
align with particular interests, whatever that cause may
be.
Joyce Anderson replied that [child trafficking] was the
subject matter of the bill.
Conner Thomas stated he did not find the answer to the
question objectionable because the presentation was about a
particular bill. He agreed perhaps the answer could include
more clarifying language.
Joyce Anderson referred to the question about a legislator
using the Legislative Information Office for a meeting
about a bill hosted by a state department. In her response,
she said that she had no control over what the LIO allows
but she saw no reason the legislator and an organization
could not work together to address a particular bill.
Jerry McBeath asked if the same advice would apply
regardless of the organization.
Deb Fancher said the advice should apply to any bill and a
related organization.
Joyce Anderson asked the legislators to comment.
Representative Andy Josephson asked whether the
hypothetical meeting was to be held in an LIO.
Joyce Anderson replied that it was not.
Representative Andy Josephson said the answer seemed
straightforward and he had no issue with it, but he
wondered about the distinction between a nonprofits travel
expenses and other general expenses. He suggested that
question may need some clarification.
Senator David Wilson stated that Representative Johnson was
online.
Senator David Wilson said he agreed with Representative
Andy Josephson that hosting the meeting was within the
legislators rights. The meeting was during the interim and
no state resources were used. He indicated he might think
differently depending on whether the request for travel
expenses was intended for the legislators expenses or
compensation or if it was intended for the general purposes
of the nonprofit organization.
Joyce Anderson replied she understood that the expenses
under discussion were those of the organization.
Senator Löki Tobin said it is helpful to hear from
organizations that may be impacted by legislation, and the
answer seems to align with current practices.
9:29 AM
Skip Cook asked if current practice includes the legislator
requesting donations for travel to get them there.
Senator Löki Tobin responded that she has not done so.
Skip Cook said it seems like the organization could ask for
their own travel expenses rather than the legislator asking
for them.
Senator Löki Tobin replied that it is very much in
alignment with what nonprofit organizations do ask for
resources to support their endeavors.
Jerry McBeath agreed that legislators have first amendment
rights, but first amendment rights have their limitations.
In this context, words to the effect that says information
of the broader public on an issue [indecipherable] puts it
in a different frame than what the limits on legislators
are.
Joyce Anderson suggested she add to the advice that the
committee had discussed the question and agreed that the
nonprofit, rather than the legislator, should have asked
for resources to would support their endeavors.
Jerry McBeath replied that he was agreeable to Joyce
Anderson's suggestion.
Senator David Wilson raised concern that legislators are
asked by nonprofit organizations to participate in
telethons, and he does not want to set precedent that would
prohibit those fundraising activities.
Joyce Anderson responded that the question specifically
asked about soliciting travel expenses. In her opinion,
that is different than requesting support for an
organization.
Senator David Wilson thanked Joyce Anderson for the
clarification.
Skip Cook added that he sees a difference because the
legislator is organizing the event and asking.
Joyce Anderson said she would add to the advice that the
answer specifically relates to asking for travel expenses.
Representative Andy Josephson asked that Joyce Anderson
include in the answer the statute that prohibits the
activity.
Joyce Anderson referred to AS 24.60.030(a)(2), which says
A legislator or legislative employee may not use public
funds, facilities, equipment, services, or another
government asset or resource for a non-legislative purpose,
or another person, which could be an organization. She
added that she looked at the legislator as the government
asset asking for funds for another person, the individuals
from the organization attending the event rather than for
the organization itself. She agreed to reference the
statute in her advice.
Jerry McBeath referred to the second and third questions in
the Gifts section on page 3 of the staff report: May a
legislator be part of an auction where they are auctioning
themselves for coffee, bike trip or pack raft trip? And:
May a legislator accept help from a for-profit organization
to pay for a legislative trip out of the country?
Jerry McBeath said that the answer to the first question
was clear about a legislator not receiving a gift from a
lobbyist or an immediate family member of a lobbyist. He
conjectured that the lobbyist referred to in the answer is
a registered lobbyist. His concern was about non lobbyist
advocates, those who are not registered as lobbyists. He
stated it would be ok for advocates not registered as a
lobbyist to bid at the auction for time with the
legislator.
Joyce Anderson said that the definition of a lobbyist is
not under the Ethics Act. It is under APOC [Alaska Public
Offices Commission] statutes and it includes other types of
lobbyists [as well as registered lobbyists].
9:40
Joyce Anderson located the definition of a lobbyist [AS
24.45.171(11): "lobbyist" means a person who is employed
and receives payments, or who contracts for economic
consideration, including reimbursement for reasonable
travel and living expenses, to communicate directly or
through the person's agents with any public official for
the purpose of influencing legislation or administrative
action for more than 10 hours in any 30-day period in one
calendar year; or represents oneself as engaging in the
influencing of legislative or administrative action as a
business, occupation, or profession.
So, Joyce Anderson continued there are registered lobbyists
who receive payments and there are lobbyists who represent
themselves as engaging in the influencing of legislative or
administrative action.
Jerry McBeath said that as a professor he frequently
lobbied the State Legislature. He asserted he would not fit
into either of the lobbyist categories because it was not
his business. The definition of a lobbyist has changed over
the years, there was one period when they were required to
register when doing advocacy work.
Joyce Anderson offered to add to the section that APOC be
contacted to determine exactly what is a lobbyist.
Jerry McBeath agreed that a reference to APOC would be
appropriate.
Turning to the second question, which was not answered in
the staff report, May a legislator accept help from a for-
profit organization to pay for a legislative trip out of
the country?, Jerry McBeath submitted that the answer
would be no.
Joyce Anderson said she didnt answer the question because
she needed more information and the legislator decided not
to go.
Jerry McBeath replied that may have been the correct action
but again submitted that the message should be no.
Joyce Anderson explained she tries to get all the
information she can before answering a question. Recently,
someone used the word, support, in a question and she
asked what the questioner mean by support. She asked the
committee for comments.
Senator David Wilson said that the legislatures trade
associations, like NCSL or CSG, pay for educational
conferences abroad. He thinks the answer would depend on
the legislative purpose of the travel.
Joyce Anderson stated she would make the recommended
changes to the informal advice and report back to the
committee for review.
Conner Thomas said he had an additional question about the
next question on page 3: What are the requirements if a
legislative employee rents from a lobbyist? He asked if
disclosure was required. If so, that should be included in
the advice.
Joyce Anderson replied that she looked at the question from
a gift perspective.
Deb Fancher stated she was almost certain disclosure is a
requirement.
Joyce Anderson said she would include that information in
the answer.
Representative Andy Josephson asked if informal advice has
the weight of a [formal] advisory opinion.
Joyce Anderson replied that they did not.
Representative Andy Josephson asked if a person could use
the informal advice defensively.
Joyce Anderson said that informal advice comes from the
ethics office. It is not binding on the committee, but it
does carry weight.
Skip Cook added that bringing the informal advice to the
committee at a committee meeting ensures committee review
of the advice.
Jerry McBeath asked if it would be useful to have a list of
informal advice by subject, like the list of formal
advisory opinions.
Joyce Anderson responded there is a searchable database in
the office in which all the pertinent details of the
informal advice are retained for reference.
Skip Cook directed attention back to the auction question.
He asked how the money raised is used. Can legislators
auction themselves off as part of a campaign for office
without violating any ethics laws? Or does the question
refer to a nonprofit auction?
Joyce Anderson replied it was a nonprofit and she will add
that to the advice.
Skip Cook also said to amend the question to reference that
the nonprofit is auctioning off the legislator, not the
legislator.
Joyce Anderson thanked the committee for their comments
about the informal advice.
9:51:35 AM
b. Ethics Disclosures (+)
Joyce Anderson introduced a report of the disclosures
submitted to the Ethics Office from January 1 through
September 15, 2023. She explained that the disclosures are
broken down by filer type and disclosure type. Filer type
is determined by whether the filer is a Senate legislator
or staff, a House legislator or staff, or other staff, such
as Legislative Budget and Audit. There has been a total of:
• 171 board membership disclosures
• 12 state benefit and loan program disclosures
• 7 state contracts, leases, or grants disclosures
• 40 close economic association disclosures
• 1 disclosure of a close economic association with a
lobbyist
• 93 gifts of travel disclosures
• 5 disclosures of gifts of travel for family members
• 6 sanctioned charity event disclosures
• 1 disclosure of a gift of a sanctioned charity event
for family member
• and 4 disclosures of gifts of legal services.
Comparing the total number of disclosures submitted so far
this year and all of 2022, there are 154 senate disclosures
in 2023, 150 total in 2022; there are 135 house disclosures
in 2023, 182 total in 2022; and 51 joint disclosures in
2023, 62 total in 2022. Total number of disclosures
submitted so far in 2023 is 340. There were 394 disclosures
submitted in 2022.
Senator L?ki Tobin commented that she remembered there was
a dip in some of the board disclosures, notably board
member disclosures, and that she is happy to see those
numbers increasing, she enjoys when people participate in
community service, and she is hopeful those numbers will
continue to grow.
Joyce Anderson replied that disclosure reminders are often
in the ethics committee newsletters, especially in the
beginning of the year when annual disclosures need to be
filed within 30 days.
Jerry McBeath surmised that committee members are not
included in the numbers.
Joyce Anderson said they are included in the numbers.
Jerry McBeath said the report doesnt break the committee
members out.
Joyce Anderson replied that the committee is under joint
disclosures. There is no separate category just for
committee members.
9:55:40 AM
c. Internship Approval (+)
Joyce Anderson said that she and Skip Cook approved an
internship program through the University of Alaska
Anchorage for work during the interim. The intern was
placed in Representative Andrew Grays office. This is the
first internship approved during interim since 2014. There
was an internship program approved in 2021 during session.
Joyce Anderson said the University of Alaska in conjunction
with the Legislative Council provides interns during the
legislative session. Statute requires other internship
programs during session be approved through the ethics
office as do all internship programs during interim.
Internships were popular during interim from 2009 2013
and then the interest slacked.
The ethics office is creating a new form for the sponsoring
agency and a form for the legislative office to help
facilitate the process. Currently, the legislative office
sends an email to the ethics office with the required
information. The forms will be posted on the website.
Deb Fancher asked why the committee approves internships.
Joyce Anderson said the reason is that internships can be
considered a gift to the legislator because the intern is
not being paid by the legislature.
Jerry McBeath noted that the Ted Stevens [Legislative]
Internship Program interns get a stipend.
Joyce Anderson replied the [Ted Stevens Legislative
Internship Program - administered by the University of
Alaska in conjunction with the Legislative Council] is
under a different statute and the ethics committee is not
involved.
Jerry McBeath said that in his experience as an educator,
internship programs are a wonderful experience. There are
two classes of internships, the [Ted Stevens Legislative
Internship Program] class and everything else.
Joyce Anderson replied that the internships approved
through the ethics office are also allowed stipends. The
stipend is paid by someone other than the legislature. That
is what makes hiring an intern a gift to the legislator.
Jerry McBeath concluded there is no difference between
internships with stipends and those without stipends.
Joyce Anderson replied there was not.
Jerry McBeath suggested there is also a travel issue.
Joyce Anderson agreed, saying if she remembers correctly,
First Alaskans Institute pays for travel so their interns
could be there for session. Regardless, it is considered a
gift to a legislator.
Jerry McBeath inferred there was no restriction pertaining
to time during legislative session or during interim.
Joyce Anderson said it depends on what the university
requires from the intern to earn credit.
Jerry McBeath said he was not sure all universities provide
credit for work during interim.
Joyce Anderson explained that is one of the questions asked
[in the application process]. Other information is also
required from the university, such as the kind of report
required from the intern upon completion of the internship
program. Legislators are asked for other information
including what hours the intern will work, the duties of
the intern, and who will supervise the intern in the
office.
Jerry McBeath asked if there were partisan restrictions.
Joyce Anderson replied yes, there are restrictions. For
instance, a lobbyist cannot work as an intern and as a
lobbyist at the same time. The intern cannot be from a
political party; that would be a conflict of interest.
10:04:15 AM
6. STATE BENEFIT AND LOAN PROGRAM REVIEW (+)
Joyce Anderson addressed the required annual state benefit
and loan program review. Each year, the ethics office is
required to contact every state department that have state
benefit or loan programs that are issued on a discretionary
basis, there is no fixed criteria. Included in the packet
is an example of the letter sent to the departments; a copy
of the form the department is asked to use to report back
to the ethics office; a copy of the draft Appendix C, which
will be included in the 2024 Standards of Conduct handbook
and posted on the website. Joyce Anderson was happy to
report no changes to the 2024 list of programs.
Senator David Wilson noted there is no longer a Department
of Health and Social Services; we have a Department of
Health and a Department of Family and Community Services.
Joyce Anderson thanked Senator David Wilson for the
correction.
7. REVIEW OF RULES OF PROCEDURE
a. Section 9 Informal Advice (+)
Joyce Anderson said the informal advice staff report
contains the non-routine advice given under AS 24.60.158 by
the ethics administrator and administrative assistant. The
committee reviews the advice for accuracy. She recommended
to the committee a few changes to the section of the Rules
of Procedures that pertains to informal advice to provide
consistency: 1) to officially call the report Informal
Advice Staff Report; 2) that the report be presented at
every full committee meeting unless determined otherwise by
the chair and administrator; and 3) direction that staff
notifies/y the requester if advice given has changed or if
the committee determines a formal binding advisory opinion
is recommended. At any time, the requester may ask for a
formal binding advisory opinion.
Skip Cook entertained further discussion or a motion to
approve the changes.
Conner Thomas so moved. There were no objections and the
motion passed.
b. Section 2(f) Administrative Policies (+)
Joyce Anderson directed committee attention to the criteria
for internship program approval. The sponsoring agency must
provide the purpose, the length of the program, and a
description of the evaluation upon completion, the
training, supervision, and duties of the intern. In the
future, the requirements will be listed on a form.
[Representative DeLena Johnson entered the meeting.]
Joyce Anderson said the proposed changes were reviewed by
the Senate President and the House Speaker. The Rules Chair
is responsible for [hiring] personnel during session and
the Senate President and the House Speaker during the
interim. The proposed changes include direction to the
ethics office to notify the appropriate leadership when an
internship program is approved and provide the completed
applications; to make the application forms available on
the ethics website; to inform interns of the training
requirement along with information about other sections of
statute that apply to interns; to send a copy of the
completed application and a letter to the legislative
office indicating the approval of the internship program
with the direction to contact the appropriate leadership to
proceed with the internship; and to include in the January
newsletter, The Advisor, information outlining the non-
University of Alaska internship approval process.
Jerry McBeath asked how many interns are there or have been
in this legislative session.
Joyce Anderson replied that each had only one.
Skip Cook entertained discussion or a motion to approve the
changes as recommended to the Rules of Procedure.
Jerry McBeath so moved. There were no objections. The
motion carried.
8. ETHICS TRAINING UPDATE
Joyce Anderson reported the January training is for new
staff only. The National Conference of State Legislatures
(NCSL) provides harassment prevention training via video.
Skip Cook noted in the past the training had been over an
hour, so the ethics training portion was shortened. Joyce
Anderson will send a link to the committee for viewing.
Joyce Anderson reported Mark Quiner from NCLS will in
person conduct a one-hour training on civility. That leaves
a little over one hour for ethics training.
Joyce Anderson reported Human Resources Manager Stacie
Bentley was agreeable to increasing the number of hours of
required training by one hour, a total of four hours.
Training dates are Wednesday, January 10 through Friday,
January 12. The committee will also probably meet on one of
those days.
10:20:01 AM
9. COGEL (Council on Governmental Ethics Laws) ANNUAL
CONFERENCE (+)
Joyce Anderson reported the COGEL conference is December 3-
6. Last year Skip Cook and Conner Thomas attended. She
asked if they had comments about the conference.
Skip Cook said that the conference is a well-established
conference attended by representatives from cities,
counties, and states. There is also representation from
Canada and occasionally from Mexico and other countries. He
reported the conference is well worth attending.
Conner Thomas mentioned there are breakout sessions
throughout the day on a variety of topics and there are a
number of sessions relevant to the work of this committee.
There are opportunities to learn about how other ethics
committees operate as well as some of the issues they
encounter.
Representative DeLena Johnson said a lot of the conference
is directed toward non-elected officials, there is always
one session directed toward elected officials. She also
recalled that conversations outside the planned sessions
are also valuable.
Skip Cook noted that Alaska is rare in having both public
and legislative members.
Joyce Anderson asked who might be interested in attending.
She said early registration, which ends October 27, costs
$600; the conference is $700 if you register after that
date.
Jerry McBeath, Deb Fancher, and Skip Cook indicated they
were interested. Conner Thomas and Joyce Anderson said they
would like to go but were willing to wait and see first how
many others want to go.
Joyce Anderson asked members to let her know by October 20
if they want to attend the conference.
Deb Fancher reminded Joyce Anderson that last year there
were hotel issues and recommended getting the hotel
reservations made as soon as possible.
Senator L?ki Tobin said the COGEL conference is at the same
time as the NCSL forecast followed by CSG. After attending
a Western Interstate Compact for Higher Education (WICHE)
conference in which they delved deeply into the ethics of
AI. She highly recommended attendees consider attending the
AI session at the conference.
10:27:02 AM
10. Skip Cook stated that item had been moved into
executive session. He entertained a motion to go into
executive session.
Conner Thomas so moved. There were no objections. The
committee moved into executive session.
11. Motion to go into EXECUTIVE SESSION to discuss matters
which by law must remain confidential under AS 24.60.160,
Uniform Rule 22(b) regarding executive sessions, and
Rules of Procedure Section 5: Executive Sessions and
discussion of matters, the immediate knowledge of which
would adversely affect the finances of a governmental
unit, and discussion of subjects that tend to prejudice
the reputation and character of a person.
10:29:37 AM
12. EXECUTIVE SESSION
12:53:59 PM
13. PUBLIC SESSION
Skip Cook reconvened public session. He entertained a
motion to authorize the chair of the committee to make an
offer to the candidate approved by the committee for the
ethics administrator position. If the candidate accepts the
offer, the chair may hire the candidate at 22F, conditioned
upon a probationary period ending June 30, 2024, with a
full review at four months from the date of hire.
Jerry McBeath so moved.
Skip Cook directed Joyce Anderson to conduct a roll call
vote.
Roll Call
Senator David Wilson Yes
Senator L?ki Tobin Yes
Representative DeLena Johnson Yes
Representative Andy Josephson Yes
Conner Thomas Yes
Jerry McBeath Yes
Skip Cook Yes
Deb Fancher was absent.
The motion carried.
Skip Cook entertained a motion to extend Joyce Anderson's
consultant contract to February 29, 2024.
Senator David Wilson so moved.
Skip Cook directed Joyce Anderson to conduct a roll call
vote.
Roll Call Yes
Conner Thomas Yes
Jerry McBeath Yes
Representative Andy Josephson Yes
Senator L?ki Tobin Yes
Senator David Wilson Yes
Representative DeLena Johnson Yes
Skip Cook Yes
Deb Fancher was absent.
The motion carried.
12:57:30 PM
14. OTHER BUSINESS
Joyce Anderson reported the suit filed by former Senator
Lora Reinbold was dismissed by the court and the committee
attorney has asked for reimbursement of attorney fees of
$7,969, which is twenty percent of the total cost of
$1,539, which is what the committee would be awarded under
ARCP 82(b)(2).
Conner Thomas asked the date of the dismissal.
Joyce Anderson replied that the dismissal was on July 17.
Skip Cook said the attorney was instructed to make the
application for the fees.
Joyce Anderson said the paperwork was filed on August 25.
She said she will keep the committee updated.
15. ADJOURN
Skip Cook entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Senator L?ki Tobin so moved.
The meeting was adjourned at 12:58 p.m.
12:58:55 PM
ADJOURN:
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| 20230929 Full committee packet BASIS.pdf |
JETH 9/29/2023 9:00:00 AM |