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03/20/2024 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:30:58 PM Start
03:33:28 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:51:29 PM Adjourn
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+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees - TELECONFERENCED
University of Alaska Board of Regents:
Seth Church - Fairbanks
Stephen Colligan - Wasilla
Board of Education and Early Development:
Pamela Dupras - Anchorage
Barbara Tyndall - Fairbanks
Professional Teaching Practices Commission:
Michael Robbins - Ketchikan
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 20, 2024                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                       
Seth Church - Fairbanks                                                                                                         
Stephen Colligan - Wasilla                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                    
Pamela Dupras - Anchorage                                                                                                       
Barbara Tyndall - Fairbanks                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                  
Michael Robbins - Ketchikan                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SETH CHURCH, Appointee                                                                                                          
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
STEPHEN COLLIGAN, Appointee                                                                                                     
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA DUPRAS, Appointee                                                                                                        
Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                        
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Board of Education and Early Development.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA TYNDALL, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                        
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)                                                                            
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Board of Education and Early Development.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL ROBBINS, Appointee                                                                                                      
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                      
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED                                                                             
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Professional Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR LÖKI  TOBIN called the Senate  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Stevens,  Gray-Jackson, Kiehl, and Chair  Tobin. Senator                                                               
Bjorkman joined thereafter.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
             UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
3:33:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointees Seth Church and Stephen  Colligan to the University of                                                               
Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SETH CHURCH,  Appointee, University  of Alaska Board  of Regents,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska, provided a brief  overview of his personal and                                                               
professional  background, emphasizing  his  expertise in  project                                                               
management,   particularly  in   deferred  maintenance   and  new                                                               
construction throughout  his career.  He expressed his  belief in                                                               
the mission  of the university  and its staff and  leadership. He                                                               
voiced  support  for the  University  of  Alaska Fairbanks  (UAF)                                                               
becoming  an R1  research institution,  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage  (UAA)  focusing  on  workforce  development,  and  the                                                               
University of Alaska Southeast (UAS)  having a first-class marine                                                               
biology program. He expressed his desire to serve on the board.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  asked Mr.  Church  about  his thoughts  on                                                               
diversity and the role of  diversity at the university. She asked                                                               
how,  as  a regent,  he  would  uphold  and support  the  mission                                                               
statement of the  university to honor the  Indigenous and diverse                                                               
peoples of Alaska.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHURCH replied that the board  recently voted in favor of the                                                               
Troth Yeddha'  project, noting that  the university  has received                                                               
significant  investment  from  community partners.  He  mentioned                                                               
that UAF is fully embracing  the project. He stated his agreement                                                               
with  the  board's  policy of  open  enrollment,  which  welcomes                                                               
everyone,  and  expressed  his   full  support  for  the  board's                                                               
mission.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  sked Mr. Church,  as a  general contractor,                                                               
what he  has learned about the  university's deferred maintenance                                                               
backlog.  She  also  inquired  if  he  believes  the  legislature                                                               
adequately funds deferred maintenance.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHURCH replied  that he  has toured  the university's  three                                                               
major campuses  over the past  several months and  shared several                                                               
key  observations.  He  noted  that   the  University  of  Alaska                                                               
Anchorage  (UAA) has  boilers so  old  that parts  are no  longer                                                               
available, and  other old boilers  are cannibalized to  keep them                                                               
running,  though  they  are  kept   in  excellent  condition.  He                                                               
commended  the passion  of the  custodians and  maintenance crews                                                               
but emphasized  that UAA urgently  needs funding for  boilers and                                                               
deferred  maintenance.  At  the University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks                                                               
(UAF), he observed a new math  and science building but found one                                                               
lab  resembling a  "third world  country"  with 1950s  cabinetry,                                                               
giving the impression that the  university doesn't care about it.                                                               
He expressed disappointment in that  situation. Meanwhile, at the                                                               
University of Alaska Southeast (UAS),  he saw a new building that                                                               
was first class, delivered on budget  and on time. He stated that                                                               
while the  state has invested  in the university, the  $2 billion                                                               
deferred   maintenance  backlog   requires  more   attention.  He                                                               
clarified that this was his  opinion, not necessarily that of the                                                               
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS said an issue he  has had with the university for                                                               
years  is teacher  education and  training. He  noted that  every                                                               
year,  more  teachers leave  the  state  than graduate  from  the                                                               
university. He  asked what  the university can  do to  ensure the                                                               
state grows  its own teachers  and how to encourage  more Alaskan                                                               
students to enter the teaching profession.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHURCH opined  that better dorms could  help attract students                                                               
and having approval  of the $20 million, 3-year  funding plan for                                                               
UAF  to  be a  premier  research  university.  He did  not  speak                                                               
specifically to  teacher retention but would  investigate and get                                                               
back to the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  that  board members  look  for  ways  to                                                               
recruit Alaskans to become teachers.  He noted that teaching is a                                                               
great career, especially for kids  in rural Alaska, but the state                                                               
is not  successfully attracting them.  He suggested  finding ways                                                               
to provide scholarships  to increase the number  of locally grown                                                               
teachers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:42:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CHURCH  stated that his  maternal grandfather came  to Alaska                                                               
and worked at a school outside of Anchorage for many years.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked about  his  vision  for the  University  of                                                               
Alaska Southeast (UAS) and its  role within the university system                                                               
and for the state.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHURCH replied  that UAS  is  the premier  liberal arts  and                                                               
marine  biology university  in  the region,  describing  it as  a                                                               
world-class and  beautiful institution. He shared  that a student                                                               
from  Massachusetts searched  for the  top marine  biology school                                                               
and  found  UAS.  He expressed  optimism  about  UAS's  continued                                                               
development under its new chancellor  from Palmer and stated that                                                               
he would  love to learn  from locals  about their vision  for the                                                               
university.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  said  she listened  to  Mr.  Church's  confirmation                                                               
appointment   and  appreciated   his  comments   about  including                                                               
educator  and student  voices. However,  she wanted  to focus  on                                                               
questions  regarding   diversity  of  thought,   perception,  and                                                               
perspective. After reviewing his  resume and personal background,                                                               
she asked how  he would ensure that all  of Alaska's universities                                                               
maintain rigorous  liberal arts  programs, particularly  in light                                                               
of  the growing  understanding of  justice, history,  oppression,                                                               
critical race theory, and tribal  critical race theory. She asked                                                               
how he plans  to ensure that student voices  and perspectives, as                                                               
well as diverse  theories, are included and  elevated in academic                                                               
curricula, and  how he would incorporate  these perspectives into                                                               
his own body of knowledge and background.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CHURCH replied  that it  starts  with having  an open  mind,                                                               
something he personally strives to  maintain. He stated that both                                                               
the board  and the university aim  to be inviting. He  then asked                                                               
if,  from  her   perspective,  there  are  ways   the  board  and                                                               
university can improve in this regard.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN  replied that she is  currently a student at  UAF and                                                               
is impressed  with her professors, particularly  their ability to                                                               
challenge her worldview and perspectives.  She expressed a desire                                                               
to protect those  professors so they can  continue fostering such                                                               
academic  growth. She  emphasized  the  importance of  appointing                                                               
individuals  to the  Board  of  Regents who  will  not use  their                                                               
position  to silence  educators or  create barriers  that prevent                                                               
students from pursuing rigorous academic exploration and truth.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHURCH thanked her for her comment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:47:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  thanked  him  for  his  willingness  to  serve  and                                                               
announced the next appointee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:08 PM                                                                                                                    
STEPHEN  COLLIGAN,  Appointee,  University  of  Alaska  Board  of                                                               
Regents, Wasilla, Alaska,  gave a brief overview  of his personal                                                               
and  career  history, mentioning  his  frequent  visits to  rural                                                               
Alaska,  where he  engages  in STEM  education  and outreach.  He                                                               
shared that  one of the  questions he asks students  and teachers                                                               
is, "What is the most  important thing your teacher teaches you?"                                                               
The answers vary, but he  believes teachers teach students how to                                                               
learn. He emphasized  that lifelong learning is  essential, and a                                                               
person  does not  need a  PhD to  pass along  skills, mentor,  or                                                               
inspire  confidence in  others.  In the  fields  of teaching  and                                                               
engineering,  he highlighted  the importance  of staying  current                                                               
with new  certifications, technologies, and evolving  fields such                                                               
as  artificial intelligence  (AI).  He pointed  out that  machine                                                               
learning has  been used in  surveying and mapping for  years, but                                                               
managing  the   "soft"  side  of   AI,  like  social   media  and                                                               
identifying deep fakes, is also  a critical skill. He opined that                                                               
the university would  play a key role in both  using and teaching                                                               
the responsibilities of technology use and misuse.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:53:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:53:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COLLIGAN  reflected on his own  time at UAF 40  years ago and                                                               
noted the positive  changes in student support.  He expressed his                                                               
excitement about the  PhD program in language  studies and growth                                                               
in  engineering  and  unmanned  systems.  He  advocated  for  the                                                               
university to  develop strong capabilities in  specific areas and                                                               
to   specialize,   given   limited  resources.   He   recommended                                                               
partnering with the Department of Defense  who is a client of the                                                               
university.  He  emphasized that  each  university  campus has  a                                                               
different focus on workforce development.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  COLLIGAN  highlighted  UAS's   unique  opportunity  to  have                                                               
outstanding   programs  in   mariculture   and  marine   biology.                                                               
Regarding  teacher  recruitment,  he  acknowledged  there  is  no                                                               
simple  solution but  suggested that  professionals could  obtain                                                               
teaching certificates.  On the issue of  deferred maintenance, he                                                               
remarked  that the  university,  like  many organizations,  faces                                                               
this challenge.  He commended university leadership  for creating                                                               
a  modest plan  to address  aging infrastructure  and noted  that                                                               
sometimes  rebuilding  is  more cost-effective  than  repair.  He                                                               
recommended pursuing  achievable goals with  maintainable systems                                                               
rather  than asking  for overly  ambitious projects.  Finally, he                                                               
mentioned  that the  university should  not be  in the  apartment                                                               
rental  business but  should explore  public-private partnerships                                                               
to  build resources  without making  large financial  requests to                                                               
the  legislature.  He  suggested  that  long-term  public/private                                                               
partnerships  could help  attract students  to the  University of                                                               
Alaska system  and excite people  about its potential  across all                                                               
campuses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:01:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked for his  thoughts on diversity and how                                                               
he, as a  regent, would uphold the university's  mission to honor                                                               
the indigenous and diverse peoples of Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COLLIGAN stated  that there  are three  key areas  of focus:                                                               
First,  the university  is  and  should remain  an  asset to  the                                                               
Alaska  community. He  emphasized that  not every  campus is  the                                                               
same  and  expressed  hope  that  each would  be  driven  by  the                                                               
workforce  development  and  economic  needs  of  its  respective                                                               
community.  He  opined  that education  provides  a  foundational                                                               
opportunity  for  personal  improvement, whether  one  pursues  a                                                               
four-year  degree,   a  trade,  or  a   professional  career.  He                                                               
highlighted the  potential of  the Troth  Yeddha' campus  to help                                                               
individuals  from  rural Alaska  succeed,  not  only by  offering                                                               
language  and   teaching  certificates   but  also   by  building                                                               
confidence  and  leadership  skills   for  governing  boards  and                                                               
community  leadership across  the state.  He stressed  that while                                                               
everyone  should  be  treated equally,  each  campus  has  unique                                                               
focuses and workforce development needs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:04:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COLLIGAN  expressed excitement  about learning  how different                                                               
university  locations  provide  value and  integrate  into  their                                                               
communities, whether by improving  teacher training through short                                                               
courses or other  efforts. Regarding diversity, he  noted that at                                                               
least 25  percent of  UAF students are  from rural  Alaska Native                                                               
communities,  and there  are  systems in  place  for students  to                                                               
assemble, express  concerns, and  have them addressed.  He stated                                                               
his openness  to listening and hearing  concerns, without getting                                                               
caught up  in unnecessary  drama, micromanaging,  or overstepping                                                               
his bounds as  a leader. He emphasized that  while the university                                                               
has diversity  programs in place,  fostering a  long-term culture                                                               
of  treating  people equally,  fairly,  and  with enthusiasm  for                                                               
learning is key to improving opportunities for Alaskans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  noted that  universities are  unique structures,                                                               
with  faculty playing  a significant  role in  governance through                                                               
the  faculty  senate,  which directs  the  university  and  works                                                               
closely  with the  Board of  Regents. He  asked how  Mr. Colligan                                                               
would  work  with  the  faculty,   particularly  since  PhDs  are                                                               
essential for  a respected university,  especially in  becoming a                                                               
research institution.  He requested Mr. Colligan  to elaborate on                                                               
his working relationship with professional faculty.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:08:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  COLLIGAN acknowledged  that  he had  overlooked  one of  the                                                               
university's  primary  goalsachieving  R1  statusand   emphasized                                                               
what that  would mean  for the entire  northern region.  He noted                                                               
that while UAF  is currently an R2 university, placing  it in the                                                               
top  8  percent, achieving  R1  status  would provide  additional                                                               
opportunities  for  research and  other  benefits  to Alaska  and                                                               
northern countries.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  COLLIGAN shared  that  he began  his  career before  certain                                                               
technologies, like GIS, were taught  at universities and had even                                                               
helped  develop them.  He said  his  company employs  individuals                                                               
with  Master's and  PhDs, emphasizing  the  importance of  having                                                               
knowledge specialists leading  the way. He stated  that he values                                                               
advanced  degrees, recognizing  their critical  role in  both the                                                               
community  and the  long-term viability  of  the university,  but                                                               
noted that this is just one focus, albeit the highest priority.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COLLIGAN  pointed  out  that part  of  achieving  R1  status                                                               
involves graduating a  certain number of PhDs. Once  that goal is                                                               
reached, the  level of funding  and research dollars  coming into                                                               
the state could increase tenfold.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:10:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  stated  that  she  has a  liberal  arts  degree  in                                                               
sociology and  pointed out that  the University of Alaska  is the                                                               
only  public university  without a  sociology program,  which she                                                               
believes is a  travesty. She emphasized that  liberal arts foster                                                               
innovation and  produce individuals  committed to  human service,                                                               
including   thought   leaders,    non-profit   specialists,   and                                                               
legislators. She noted that his  comments were heavily focused on                                                               
science and  technology and  asked how  he plans  to seek  out or                                                               
accept perspectives  different from  his own. She  inquired about                                                               
his ethos regarding engaging with alternative viewpoints.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COLLIGAN apologized  for focusing  too much  on science  and                                                               
technology,  acknowledging  the   importance  of  a  well-rounded                                                               
education.  He   emphasized  that  all  university   degrees  and                                                               
programs, including  those in the sciences,  require knowledge of                                                               
"softer" sciences like history and  language. He pointed out that                                                               
most innovators possess  this broader knowledge and  keep an open                                                               
mind to  foster new ideas.  He stated that  without understanding                                                               
history, one is blind to the  future and noted that soft sciences                                                               
are  just  as  important,  if  not more  so,  when  it  comes  to                                                               
leadership. While it's  great to be focused on  science, he said,                                                               
true  innovation  comes  from  having  a  broad  and  open-minded                                                               
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public testimony  on the confirmation  of Mr.                                                               
Church  and  Mr.  Colligan;  finding   none,  she  closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate Education  Standing Committee  reviewed the  following and                                                               
recommends the appointments  be forwarded to a  joint session for                                                               
consideration:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                       
Seth Church - Fairbanks                                                                                                         
Stephen Colligan - Wasilla                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  reminded   members  that  signing  the   report(s)  regarding                                                               
appointments  to  boards  and  commissions  in  no  way  reflects                                                               
individual members'  approval or  disapproval of  the appointees;                                                               
the nominations are merely forwarded  to the full legislature for                                                               
confirmation or rejection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN stated  the  names  would be  forwarded  to a  joint                                                               
session of the Alaska State Legislature.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:13:14 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                  
            BOARD OF EDUCATION and EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
4:15:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   TOBIN   reconvened   the  meeting   and   announced   the                                                               
consideration  of the  governor's  appointees  Pamela Dupras  and                                                               
Barbara Tyndall to the Board of Education and Early Development.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:42 PM                                                                                                                    
PAMELA   DUPRAS,  Appointee,   Board  of   Education  and   Early                                                               
Development,  Department  of   Education  and  Early  Development                                                               
(DEED),  Anchorage,   Alaska,  gave  a  brief   overview  of  her                                                               
personal, education, and work history.  She stated she has taught                                                               
for 22 years in a variety of locations in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:17:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   STEVENS   asked   about  the   State   School   Board's                                                               
responsibility  for Mt.  Edgecumbe and  how it  differs from  its                                                               
responsibilities for other school districts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DUPRAS  said that, as  a new board member,  her understanding                                                               
is  that the  State School  Board  listens to  reports and  stays                                                               
informed about  decisions made at  Mt. Edgecumbe. She  noted that                                                               
the key difference is that  Mt. Edgecumbe is a residential school                                                               
serving  students  from across  the  entire  state, unlike  other                                                               
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS commented  that  Mt. Edgecumbe  is a  remarkable                                                               
school, noting that  many Native leaders have  graduated from it.                                                               
He  expressed his  gladness upon  hearing that  she attended  the                                                               
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  asked   for  her  ethos  and   perspective  on  the                                                               
relationship between  the State Board of  Education, local school                                                               
boards, parents, and students.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:18:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. DUPRAS stated  that the responsibility of the  State Board of                                                               
Education  is  to  listen  carefully  to  all  parties  involved,                                                               
including  local school  boards,  parents, and  students, and  to                                                               
consider   their   viewpoints   before  making   decisions.   She                                                               
emphasized that  decisions are not  made by  one person but  by a                                                               
group, making it important for  state board members to be mindful                                                               
of what constituents want and  their opinions. She noted that the                                                               
board reviews  a lot of public  input to ensure it  considers how                                                               
its actions impact all students and reflects their needs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN asked  what she sees as the  relationship between the                                                               
State Board of Education and the legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:19:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. DUPRAS replied that she is  still learning but noted that one                                                               
of the  more exciting  developments from the  state has  been its                                                               
focus on the state of reading  in Alaska. She is aware of several                                                               
other bills  related to education.  She views the  legislature as                                                               
the governing body  responsible for creating the  rules that hold                                                               
the State Board of Education accountable in its work.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:20:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN thanked  Ms. Dupras for her willingness  to serve and                                                               
announced the next appointee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:20:38 PM                                                                                                                    
BARBARA  TYNDALL,   Appointee,  Board  of  Education   and  Early                                                               
Development,  Department  of   Education  and  Early  Development                                                               
(DEED),  Fairbanks,  Alaska, provided  a  brief  overview of  her                                                               
personal and  work history, highlighting her  teaching experience                                                               
and understanding that children are  not "cookie cutters" of each                                                               
other,  even within  the same  family. She  shared how  she first                                                               
learned  about  multi-sensory  teaching  and  the  importance  of                                                               
recognizing  that  children  learn differently  and  face  unique                                                               
challenges.  As a  member of  the State  Board of  Education, she                                                               
attended  a Career  and Technical  Education (CTE)  conference in                                                               
Anchorage,  where   she  saw   educators  excited   about  making                                                               
education   relevant  in   the  classroom.   She  expressed   her                                                               
enthusiasm for  expanding youth career  tracks across  the state,                                                               
such as those  she observed in Bethel and Barrow,  which focus on                                                               
practical   skills   like  construction,   welding,   technology,                                                               
farming, and business.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:24:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. TYNDALL  noted that districts  are seeing  success, including                                                               
increased graduation  rates, and  mentioned that  charter schools                                                               
and  homeschooling are  thriving in  Alaska. She  added that  the                                                               
Reads  Program  is  starting  to  show  positive  results.  While                                                               
acknowledging that education is  in transition, she is optimistic                                                               
about  the   future  and  emphasized   the  need   for  continued                                                               
adjustments and adaptations to move education forward.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:25:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON referenced the  board's annual report to the                                                               
legislature, which  mentioned the education clause  in the Alaska                                                               
Constitution art.  VII, sec. 1,  which states, in  part, "Schools                                                               
and  institutions so  established  shall be  free from  sectarian                                                               
control. No money shall be paid  from public funds for the direct                                                               
benefit   of  any   religious   or   other  private   educational                                                               
institution." She asked if Ms.  Tyndall agreed with the education                                                               
clause in the constitution.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. TYNDALL  replied that education  is for every  child, meeting                                                               
them where  they are.  She acknowledged  that public  schools are                                                               
secular  and  accepts  that.  She  noted that  all  five  of  her                                                               
children graduated  from public high  schools, as did she  from a                                                               
public high school in Valdez.  She concluded by saying she agrees                                                               
with the education clause for now.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  reiterated Ms. Tyndall's  clarifying remark                                                               
"for now."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TYNDALL  added that if changes  were made in the  future, she                                                               
would probably agree.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:27:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  said she was  curious to  hear Ms. Ty's  thoughts on                                                               
the relationship  between the  State Board  of Education  and the                                                               
legislature. She  asked if  Ms. Ty believes  the State  Board has                                                               
the  authority  to  enact   regulations  without  an  authorizing                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TYNDALL said  that,  she  is fairly  new  on  the board  and                                                               
believes  that the  board  should  follow the  rule  of law.  She                                                               
mentioned that  she has not  spoken to legislature  regarding the                                                               
board and  would only do so  if she knew it  was appropriate. She                                                               
added that she  would make sure to understand  the proper process                                                               
before engaging with the legislature.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:28:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN asked  Ms. Ty for clarification on what  she meant by                                                               
"speaking to the legislature."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. TYNDALL replied  that she would never speak on  behalf of the                                                               
board, as she believes there  are designated individuals for that                                                               
role.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN  asked what she  believes her  specific role is  as a                                                               
board member in  listening to public input, and  how she balances                                                               
her personal beliefs with public comment and testimony.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. TYNDALL replied  that it is extremely important  to listen to                                                               
all sides and emphasized that she  would spend time doing so. She                                                               
stated  that the  school board  should represent  all people  and                                                               
viewpoints. She noted  that public testimony is  heard, and notes                                                               
are  taken.  Having attended  about  four  meetings so  far,  she                                                               
reiterated the importance of this process.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN stated that those  four meetings have had significant                                                               
public  testimony  in  opposition   to  board  actions,  and  she                                                               
expressed curiosity about how all  perspectives are balanced. She                                                               
mentioned that  it seems  like minority  input is  elevated among                                                               
the public.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:29:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL   stated  that  those   four  meetings   have  had                                                               
significant public testimony in  opposition to board actions, and                                                               
she expressed curiosity about how  all perspectives are balanced.                                                               
She  mentioned that  it  seems like  minority  input is  elevated                                                               
among  the  public  and  sought  clarification  on  how  that  is                                                               
handled.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TYNDALL  admitted that  she  did  not fully  understand  the                                                               
board's governance  when she was  first appointed.  She mentioned                                                               
that there  is a  large manual  she is  working through  to learn                                                               
more. She  explained that, for  the most part, the  board listens                                                               
to  everyone. She  then sought  clarification, asking  if he  was                                                               
suggesting  that the  board had  been overriding  legislation, as                                                               
she wasn't sure what the specific issue was.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL expressed  interest  in her  understanding of  the                                                               
structure  of the  State  Board of  Education,  noting that  this                                                               
understanding is important for legislators  to assess whether her                                                               
appointment is  appropriate. He mentioned that,  prior to joining                                                               
the  board,   she  had   forwarded  resolutions   to  legislators                                                               
regarding the  appropriate roles for the  Department of Education                                                               
and Early  Development. He recalled  one resolution  stating that                                                               
the department didn't  have the authority to  place mental health                                                               
counselors in  schools. He pointed  out that statutes  exist that                                                               
license  school  psychologists  and   address  mental  health  in                                                               
schools.  He  asked  her  to   share  her  understanding  of  how                                                               
statutory authority relates to the department's authority.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  TYNDALL said  that this  concern about  the resolution  also                                                               
came  up  in  the  House, which  occurred  several  years  before                                                               
serving on  the board.  She mentioned  that her  understanding of                                                               
the board's  authority is evolving,  and her concern at  the time                                                               
likely  stemmed from  people around  her who  were worried  about                                                               
parental notification.  She explained that decisions  like school                                                               
closures, such as  those being discussed in  Fairbanks, come from                                                               
the superintendent,  and are decided  by the local  school board,                                                               
acknowledging  that  different  authorities  exist  at  different                                                               
levels.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. TYNDALL  stated that she  doesn't see the state  school board                                                               
overriding a local  school board and suggested  that her previous                                                               
concern may  have been due  to ignorance between local  and state                                                               
authority. She clarified that she  does not recall ever referring                                                               
to the  state school  board specifically  and apologized  for her                                                               
past misunderstanding. She emphasized that  she is now getting up                                                               
to  speed on  what  the state  board  can and  cannot  do and  is                                                               
focused on listening  to everyone to gain a balanced  view of the                                                               
education system.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:33:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  compared the constitution  to the foundation  of a                                                               
building,  with the  legislature passing  laws like  load-bearing                                                               
walls,  and regulations  existing  to implement  and clarify  the                                                               
statutes. He  asked if  it was her  understanding that  the board                                                               
can create  requirements or  regulations when  there are  no laws                                                               
providing a clear pathway.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:34:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. TYNDALL replied  no. She stated that it  is her understanding                                                               
that regulations are  meant to implement the  law. She reiterated                                                               
that, while she  is new to the  board, she has learned  a lot and                                                               
has enjoyed being part of it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:35:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  mentioned the  closing of  schools and  other issues                                                               
due  to  a lack  of  funding.  She  asked  Ms. Tyndall  what  she                                                               
believes her role  is as a board member in  ensuring that schools                                                               
receive the  resources needed  to provide  high-quality education                                                               
to every child in the public school system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TYNDALL  replied  that  is  definitely  within  the  board's                                                               
purview.  She  mentioned  that  she  is very  aware  of  what  is                                                               
happening in her district, and,  in a perfect world, more funding                                                               
is needed. However, she is  uncertain whether current legislation                                                               
will  address  the issues.  She  described  a  visit to  a  local                                                               
elementary   school,  noting   low  morale   but  also   positive                                                               
initiatives like  the Reads program.  She observed that due  to a                                                               
teacher's   absence  and   the  lack   of  substitute   teachers,                                                               
classrooms had to  be combined, highlighting that  schools do not                                                               
have  what they  need.  She  emphasized that  it  is the  board's                                                               
responsibility to address this.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:38:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN opened  public testimony on the  confirmations of Ms.                                                               
Dupras  and   Ms.  Tyndall;  finding  none,   she  closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate Education  Standing Committee  reviewed the  following and                                                               
recommends the appointments  be forwarded to a  joint session for                                                               
consideration:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Board of Education and Early Development                                                                                    
Pamela Dupras - Anchorage                                                                                                       
Barbara Tyndall - Fairbanks                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  reminded  members that  signing  the  report(s)                                                               
regarding  appointments  to  boards  and commissions  in  no  way                                                               
reflects  individual  members'  approval or  disapproval  of  the                                                               
appointees;  the nominations  are  merely forwarded  to the  full                                                               
legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN stated  the  names  would be  forwarded  to a  joint                                                               
session of the Alaska State Legislature.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:38:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  commented that while all  appointees are forwarded                                                               
by right, he has serious concerns.  He explained that in the last                                                               
year, the  State Board of  Education and Early  Development acted                                                               
on an  issue that  legislators had  attempted to  address through                                                               
statute, as  a statutory  change was  necessary to  achieve their                                                               
goal. However, those  bills did not pass, and the  law didn't end                                                               
up reflecting  what was intended.  He expressed concern  that the                                                               
state  board  manipulated   regulations  beyond  their  statutory                                                               
authority to effectively create new statewide law.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  emphasized his deep  concerns about  board members                                                               
who  voted in  favor of  that action,  especially those  who have                                                               
previously commented  on the legal  authority of  departments. He                                                               
concluded by stating that he  will further address these concerns                                                               
during the joint session.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:40:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  said she  shares those  concerns and  encouraged the                                                               
public to  share their insights  through public  testimony. Those                                                               
serving on  the board  have a responsibility  to fight  for every                                                               
child to be loved.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:40:25 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                  
           PROFESSIONAL TEACHING PRACTICES COMMISSION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:41:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   TOBIN   reconvened   the  meeting   and   announced   the                                                               
consideration of the governor's  appointee Michael Robbins to the                                                               
Professional Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:42:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL  ROBBINS,  Appointee,   Professional  Teaching  Practices                                                               
Commission, Department of Education  and Early Development (DEED,                                                               
Ketchikan, Alaska, provided a brief  work history and stated that                                                               
he has  worked for  thirty years  in education,  including twenty                                                               
years   in  administration.   He   emphasized   that  he   brings                                                               
experience, compassion,  and a  commitment to  improving Alaska's                                                               
education system.  His diverse teaching experience  across Alaska                                                               
has given  him a comprehensive  understanding of  the educational                                                               
landscape.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ROBBINS  expressed his belief  in the  fundamental importance                                                               
of student-centered  decision-making, noting that  every decision                                                               
in  education should  serve the  best interests  of students  and                                                               
guide them toward success in  both academics and personal growth.                                                               
Building  strong  relationships  with students,  staff,  and  the                                                               
community is central to his  approach, as he believes fostering a                                                               
sense  of  belonging  and  trust is  essential  for  creating  an                                                               
environment where everyone feels valued and supported.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROBBINS expressed  his commitment  to advancing  educational                                                               
goals  as  a member  of  the  commission.  He is  confident  that                                                               
positive  changes  can  be  made  to have  a  lasting  impact  on                                                               
students'  lives and  looks  forward  to working  collaboratively                                                               
toward a shared vision of educational excellence.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN said he agreed  with Mr. Robbins' statements. He                                                               
noted  that  much  of  the  work  of  the  Professional  Teaching                                                               
Practices  Commission  (PTPC)  involves disciplinary  action  for                                                               
educators  and  deciding  whether they  should  remain  licensed.                                                               
Often,  the commission  mirrors  or  reinforces the  disciplinary                                                               
decisions  made by  school  districts. He  asked  Mr. Robbins  to                                                               
describe two  or three scenarios  in which he and  the commission                                                               
might  take  a  different  approach from  a  school  district  in                                                               
evaluating an incident and the actions taken or not taken.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:45:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ROBBINS replied that he  has only participated in one meeting                                                               
as part  of the commission  so far.  He explained that  each case                                                               
brought  before  the commission  is  evaluated  by reviewing  the                                                               
investigation  conducted   by  the   school  district,   any  new                                                               
information that may have emerged,  and the evidence presented to                                                               
the  commission.  He  emphasized  that  every  case  is  nuanced,                                                               
requiring careful  consideration of the facts,  the actions taken                                                               
at the  local level,  and whether  the disciplinary  actions were                                                               
appropriate or if further action  by the commission is necessary.                                                               
He concluded by stating that  the process involves looking at all                                                               
the  available information,  having  a  thorough discussion,  and                                                               
then  determining the  next steps  while considering  the actions                                                               
already taken at the local level.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:47:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if, during  his time as  a superintendent,                                                               
he  has  ever  had  to  forward  a  disciplinary  action  to  the                                                               
Professional Teaching Practices Commission (PTPC.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBBINS replied no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  commented that it  doesn't happen often,  and it                                                               
is very serious to take away  someone's license. He noted that it                                                               
does happen occasionally.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBBINS replied yes, unfortunately it happens occasionally.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL mentioned  that continuing  education requirements                                                               
for teachers  also fall under the  commission's responsibilities.                                                               
He  asked  Mr.  Robbins  for   his  opinion  on  whether  current                                                               
requirements are appropriate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROBBINS replied  that  in  New York  State,  once a  teacher                                                               
becomes permanently certified, they  are not required to complete                                                               
any continuing  education credits.  He expressed his  belief that                                                               
continuing  education  in  Alaska  is  incredibly  important.  He                                                               
compared it to  the medical field, noting  that patients wouldn't                                                               
want  to  visit  a  doctor   who  hadn't  kept  up  with  medical                                                               
advancements  for  twenty  years. Similarly,  educators  need  to                                                               
continuously improve,  and ongoing educational  development plays                                                               
a  key role  in enhancing  student learning  and achievement.  He                                                               
emphasized   that   all   school   staff,   including   teachers,                                                               
paraprofessionals,   and   administrators,   should   engage   in                                                               
continuing education to improve their craft.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  opened public testimony  on the confirmation  of Mr.                                                               
Robbins; finding none, she closed public testimony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:50:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate Education  Standing Committee  reviewed the  following and                                                               
recommends the appointments  be forwarded to a  joint session for                                                               
consideration:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Professional Teaching Practices Commission                                                                                  
Michael Robbins - Ketchikan                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENTATOR  STEVENS reminded  members  that  signing the  report(s)                                                               
regarding  appointments  to  boards  and commissions  in  no  way                                                               
reflects  individual  members'  approval or  disapproval  of  the                                                               
appointees;  the nominations  are  merely forwarded  to the  full                                                               
legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said  the name would be forwarded to  a joint session                                                               
of the Alaska State Legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:50:58 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:51:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:51:29 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Tobin adjourned  the Senate  Education Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 4:51 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Seth Church Regents - Resume Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Steve Colligan Regents - Resume Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
University of Alaska
Barbara Tyndall BEED Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
Board of Education and Early Development
Barbara Tyndall Resume BEED_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
Board of Education and Early Development
Pamela Dupras BEED Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
Board of Education and Early Development
Pamela Dupras BEED Application_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
Board of Education and Early Development
Michael Robbins Professional Teaching Resume_Redacted.pdf SEDC 3/20/2024 3:30:00 PM
Professional Teaching Practices Commission