Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/07/2024 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:33:30 PM Start
03:35:16 PM Presentation: School Choice for Alaska's Students
03:56:03 PM Presentation: Aleutian Region School District Models
04:10:03 PM Presentation: Yukon-koyukuk School District Education Models
04:23:54 PM Presentation: Fireweed Academy
04:34:28 PM Presentation: Idea Homeschool Program
04:48:04 PM Presentation: the Nations Charter Report Card
05:18:12 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: The Different Education Models TELECONFERENCED
Used by Alaska's Public Schools by
Norm Wooten, Association of Alaska School
Boards
Michael Hanley, Superintendent, Aleutian Region
Schools
Todd Hindman, Retired Principal at the Fireweed
Academy in Homer
Scott MacManus, Director of State and Federal
Programs, Yukon-Koyukuk School District
Dean O'Dell, Director, IDEA Homeschool Program
Additional Invited Testifiers
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 7, 2024                                                                                        
                           3:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: SCHOOL CHOICE FOR ALASKA'S STUDENTS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALEUTIAN REGION SCHOOL DISTRICT EDUCATION MODELS                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION: YUKON-KOYUKUK SCHOOL DISTRICT EDUCATION MODELS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: FIREWEED ACADEMY                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: IDEA HOMESCHOOL PROGRAM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: THE NATIONS CHARTER REPORT CARD                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NORM WOOTEN, Advocacy Director                                                                                                  
Association of Alaska School Boards                                                                                             
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered a presentation on  School Choice for                                                             
Alaska's Students.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL HANLEY, Superintendent                                                                                                  
Aleutian Region Schools.                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Offered  a presentation  on Aleutian  Region                                                             
School District Education Models.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT MACMANUS, Director                                                                                                        
Grants and Special Projects                                                                                                     
Yukon-Koyukuk School District                                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Offered  a  presentation  on  Yukon-Koyukuk                                                             
School District Models.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TODD HINDMAN, Presenter                                                                                                         
Fireweed Academy                                                                                                                
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered a presentation on Fireweed Academy.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEAN O'DELL, Director                                                                                                           
IDEA Homeschool Program                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Offered   a  presentation   on  the   IDEA                                                             
Homeschool Program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PAUL PETERSON, Professor                                                                                                        
Public Policy                                                                                                                   
Harvard University Professor                                                                                                    
Cambridge Massachusetts                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered a  presentation The  Nations Charter                                                             
Report Card.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:33:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR LÖKI  TOBIN called the Senate  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 3:33 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Kiehl, Gray-Jackson, Bjorkman, and Chair Tobin.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN stated  that the meeting's agenda would  focus on the                                                               
different education models used by Alaska's public schools.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: School Choice for Alaska's Students                                                                              
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
              SCHOOL CHOICE FOR ALASKA'S STUDENTS                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
3:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN announced the consideration  of a presentation School                                                               
Choice for Alaska's Students.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:10 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:38:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting  and asked Mr. Wooten to begin                                                               
his presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:39:15 PM                                                                                                                    
NORM  WOOTEN, Advocacy  Director,  Association  of Alaska  School                                                               
Boards,  Kodiak,   Alaska,  introduced  himself  and   began  his                                                               
presentation on School Choice for Alaska's Students.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WOOTEN moved  to slide  2 stated  the Association  of Alaska                                                               
School  Boards has  always  understood that  the  first and  best                                                               
teachers  are parents.  Parental choice  is important  across the                                                               
state.  He  said   he  would  discuss  the   following  types  of                                                               
educational choices:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                    Alaska Families Enjoy a                                                                                   
                 Wide Variety of School Choice                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
        • Traditional "Brick & Mortar" Neighborhood Schools                                                                     
        • Correspondence Programs                                                                                               
        • Charter Schools                                                                                                       
        • Residential Schools                                                                                                   
        • Home Schools                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTEN  moved to slide 3  and mentioned two types  of schools                                                               
in Alaska and that schools in Alaska have vast differences:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                         The Uniqueness                                                                                       
                       of Alaskan Schools                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
      The system is made up of 54 school districts divided                                                                      
     into two types:                                                                                                            
     • 34 city & borough school districts                                                                                       
     • 19 Rural Education Attendance Areas (REAA's)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                     Alaska's schools have                                                                                  
                        vast differences                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Anchorage School District 50,000 students & 300                                                                       
          teachers                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • Aleutian Region School District 12 students and 2                                                                     
          teachers                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • Pelican School District 12 students and 2                                                                             
          teachers                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOOTEN stated that the  main difference between the two types                                                               
of schools  is municipalities  have a  tax base  and must  make a                                                               
required  local  contribution (RLC).  On  the  other hand,  Rural                                                               
Education Attendance  Areas (REAAs)  do not have  a tax  base and                                                               
education costs are the state's responsibility.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WOOTEN moved  to slide  4 which  shows a  map of  Alaska and                                                               
described traditional brick and mortar schools across Alaska:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
              Traditional "Brick & Mortar" Schools                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • 502 separate schools in 54 school districts                                                                           
        • 131,600 students                                                                                                      
        • North Slope School District to Annette Island                                                                         
          School District                                                                                                       
        • Aleutian Region School District to Alaska Gateway                                                                     
          School District                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOOTEN added  that  most of  Alaska's  school districts  are                                                               
larger than  many states. Kodiak  Island Borough  School District                                                               
is about  the size of  West Virgina,  and the North  Slope School                                                               
District is about the size of Montana.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:43:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTEN moved to slide 5 and mentioned the following points                                                                  
about correspondence programs in Alaska:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                    Correspondence Programs                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        • 1st correspondence program was a territorial                                                                          
          program begun in 1939.                                                                                                
        • 35 programs in 16 districts exist today.                                                                              
        • Alaska Statute (2002) allows a state centralized                                                                      
          program as well as those operated by local school                                                                     
          districts.                                                                                                            
        • Learning plans, allotments to families are                                                                            
          allowable (non-sectarian).                                                                                            
        • General oversight provided by DEED.                                                                                   
        • Partisan/sectarian/ denominational prohibited.                                                                        
        • Funded through the BSA at 90 percent of BSA.                                                                          
        • Very popular with Home School families.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTEN moved to slides 6 - 7 and discussed charter schools                                                                  
in Alaska:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                        Charter Schools                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   • Alaska's charter school bill enacted 1995.                                                                                 
   • 2001 amendment increased allowable numbers from 30 to                                                                      
      60  extended length of charter from 5 yrs to 10 yrs                                                                       
     dropped geographical restrictions.                                                                                         
   • 2010 amendment removed restriction on number of                                                                            
     allowable charters.                                                                                                        
   • 2014 amendment clarified rental of district space to                                                                       
     charters  limited indirect rate to 4 percent.                                                                              
   • Charter school funding is determined the same way as                                                                       
     traditional schools through the BSA.                                                                                       
   • Charter schools are public schools, chartered by local                                                                     
     school districts.                                                                                                          
   • Governed by an Academic Policy Committee under the                                                                         
     general oversight of the local school board.                                                                               
   • Charter  school staff  are district  employees although                                                                    
     hiring latitude is common within each charter.                                                                             
   • 31  charters  exist  in Palmer,  Anchorage,  Fairbanks,                                                                    
     Kenai, North Pole, Wasilla,  Bethel, Eagle River, Nome,                                                                    
     Homer,  Juneau,  Soldotna,  Ketchikan,  Utqiagvik,  and                                                                    
     Hooper Bay.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTEN moved to slides 8-10 and spoke about Residential                                                                     
Boarding Schools:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                  Residential Boarding Schools                                                                                
   • 1st boarding school was in  Sitka in 1878 & operated by                                                                    
     Presbyterian missionaries.                                                                                                 
   • Unfortunately, the  story of Alaska's  boarding schools                                                                    
     is a sordid  tale that did unspeakable harm  to many of                                                                    
     our citizens.                                                                                                              
   • Sadly  the   early  boarding  schools  motive   was  to                                                                    
     detribalize  our  indigenous  citizens  and  assimilate                                                                    
     them into Euro-American culture.                                                                                           
   • By  the late  20th century  most of  these schools  had                                                                    
     closed.                                                                                                                    
   • School  districts  with approved  residential  boarding                                                                    
     schools may  be reimbursed with a  per-pupil stipend to                                                                    
     assist  in with  operational costs.  The district  must                                                                    
     provide appropriate  dormitories, food service  & daily                                                                    
     access to a public school.                                                                                                 
   • Residential    school    construction    costs    allow                                                                    
     cities/boroughs/municipalities  to  apply  for  funding                                                                    
     through bond  debt reimbursement.  However, there  is a                                                                    
     moratorium on new construction through 2025.                                                                               
   • In  addition  to  the   state  operated  Mt.  Edgecumbe                                                                    
     residential  program,  there  are 7  district  operated                                                                    
     district residential schools.                                                                                              
   • Galena Interior Learning Academy                                                                                           
   • Kuskokwim Learning Academy (Bethel)                                                                                        
   • Nenana Living Center                                                                                                       
   • Northwestern Alaska Career & Technical Center (Nome)                                                                       
   • Ready Academy (Bethel)                                                                                                     
   • Star of the Northwest Magnet School (Kotzebue)                                                                             
   • Voyage to Excellence (Chugach  Anchorage)                                                                                  
   • Mt. Edgecumbe (Sitka)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:50:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTON moved to slide 11 - 13 and discussed the following                                                                   
points about homeschooling formats in Alaska:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          Home School                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's Homeschooling Formats:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
        • Parents may contact their local school district                                                                       
          and  select   correspondence  programs   that  the                                                                    
          district has designed or supports.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Each district correspondence program and student                                                                      
          funding allotment will vary.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Parents aren't limited to district correspondence                                                                     
          programs. They  may select a  recognized statewide                                                                    
          correspondence  program   that  is   sponsored  by                                                                    
          another school district in Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Statewide programs are similar to the local                                                                           
          school district  option, except that  parents will                                                                    
          contact a school district in  which they are not a                                                                    
          residence.  Statewide correspondence  programs and                                                                    
          the student funding allotment will vary.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Parents may also elect to participate in the                                                                          
          centralized option, which has  evolved into the AK                                                                    
          Virtual School. This  statewide program provides a                                                                    
          virtual classroom environment  for students across                                                                    
          Alaska. Some  school districts  have opted  out of                                                                    
          participating  in  the   AK  Virtual  School,  but                                                                    
          parents  in  those   school  districts  may  still                                                                    
          choose to  have their children participate  in the                                                                    
          program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • For more information, visit Alaska Statewide                                                                          
          Correspondence  Schools or  contact Donald  Enoch,                                                                    
          Education Administrator II (907) 465-2972.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WOOTEN shared  that his  granddaughter  participated in  the                                                               
Galena program. He stated he  served on the Kodiak Island Borough                                                               
School District Board for 30 years,  and the board reached out to                                                               
work  with  homeschool  programs,  which was  a  benefit  to  the                                                               
schools and students.  School choice is alive and  well in Alaska                                                               
and is willingly embraced by the public school system.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:53:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  asked if homeschool programs  receive money                                                               
from the state.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOOTEN replied  that if they participate  in a correspondence                                                               
program, most  school districts offer  a stipend to  all students                                                               
to purchase materials, such as books and computers.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  clarified that homeschool  programs receive                                                               
funding for correspondence  materials, but they do  not receive a                                                               
BSA contribution.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:54:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WOOTEN replied that is correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  noted that  Alaska is  not a  mandatory enrollment                                                               
state. Alaska  students can attend  private schools  and families                                                               
in Alaska can homeschool without  public programs, which receives                                                               
no funding.  He stated his family  has used the full  spectrum of                                                               
options  except  private  school.   He  thanked  Mr.  Wooten  for                                                               
focusing on the public options that are paid for by citizens.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Aleutian Region School District Models                                                                           
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
        ALEUTIAN REGION SCHOOL DISTRICT EDUCATION MODELS                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
3:56:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN announced  the consideration  of  a presentation  on                                                               
Aleutian Region Schools and introduced Mr. Hanley.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:56:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL   HANLEY,   Superintendent,  Aleutian   Region   Schools,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced  himself and  stated the  Aleutian                                                               
Region School  District is one  of the smallest  school districts                                                               
in Alaska  and is  the furthest  out on  the Aleutian  chain. The                                                               
district  recently received  permission  to  reopen the  Nikolski                                                               
school after being closed for 12 years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLEY  said the opportunities  he had  to serve at  both the                                                               
classroom level, sitting beside students,  and at the state level                                                               
have  shown  him the  importance  of  personal interactions  with                                                               
children,  families,  and the  community,  as  well as  having  a                                                               
system that ensures  all 54 of Alaska's districts  work towards a                                                               
common goal. That  goal is for Alaska's kids to  be prepared with                                                               
the necessary  skills for  further education  and jobs  when they                                                               
graduate, keeping every door of  opportunity open. He appreciated                                                               
that Mr. Wooten highlighted  the public-school options recognized                                                               
in statute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANLEY  stated  the  state's  role  is  to  set  parameters,                                                               
guidelines,  and  expectations  for  what  kids  need  when  they                                                               
graduate, accomplished through  setting educational standards. As                                                               
commissioner,  he noted  that while  many students  were reported                                                               
proficient in basic skills, they  often required remedial courses                                                               
in university. In response, new  higher standards were adopted in                                                               
2014  to  aim for  higher  levels  of proficiency  necessary  for                                                               
success.  He  emphasized that  the  state  supports districts  by                                                               
providing guidelines  but allows  them to  determine how  best to                                                               
meet these standards.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:00:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HANLEY  highlighted the  flexibility in  Alaska's educational                                                               
system,  noting   the  existence  of   variable-term  residential                                                               
schools where  students can attend  2   4-week  intensive courses                                                               
not   offered  at   their  home   school.   He  mentioned   other                                                               
performance-based  models  in use,  where  age  does not  dictate                                                               
grade  level, allowing  students  to learn  at their  appropriate                                                               
skill levels. For  example, in Chugiak, a  student graduated with                                                               
both a diploma and an  associate degree, while another received a                                                               
diploma and a pilot's license.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLEY  described various  school models,  including four-day                                                               
weeks   and  subsistence   calendars,   which   meet  the   state                                                               
requirement of 170 student days  within a 180-day school year. He                                                               
explained  that Anchorage  has 37  alternative schools  and eight                                                               
charter schools,  each focusing on specific  needs and interests,                                                               
such  as  the ABC  School  with  rigorous expectations,  an  open                                                               
optional  model,  Montessori, Science,  Technology,  Engineering,                                                               
and Math (STEM), Science, Technology,  Engineering, Art, and Math                                                               
(STEAM), and multiple language immersion schools.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HANLEY  noted that  these programs  are successful,  and data                                                               
supports  their  effectiveness.  However,  he  cautioned  against                                                               
trying to make  all schools like charter schools, as  each one is                                                               
unique  and specialized.  He said  the Harvard  study that  shows                                                               
Alaska's  success  with  charter  schools shouldn't  be  used  to                                                               
promote the idea that one size  fits all. Each district knows its                                                               
community  best and  offers tailored  programs  to meet  specific                                                               
needs.  He said  that  in  his tiny  district,  the  focus is  on                                                               
individualized education, akin to  homeschooling with a certified                                                               
teacher, to best serve the small student population.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   GRAY-JACKSON  asked   what  category   of  school   are                                                               
Specialized Academic  Vocational Education  (SAVE) schools  1 and                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANLEY  replied  that  the SAVE  schools  in  Anchorage  are                                                               
alternative schools.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:07:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  asked Mr. Hanley  for his thoughts  on consolidating                                                               
school  districts to  save administrative  costs and  potentially                                                               
put more money into the classroom.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:07:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HANLEY  replied  that,   speaking  objectively  and  without                                                               
concern for job security,  consolidation offers minimal financial                                                               
benefit and significant drawbacks.  His district already operates                                                               
with minimal  administrative costs. Consolidating with  a distant                                                               
district like Lake and Peninsula  could save some money but would                                                               
result in losing local school  board members and their influence,                                                               
distancing decision-making from the  students. He said experience                                                               
when they  lost ADAC last  year makes him questioned  the overall                                                               
benefit of consolidation given these costs.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Yukon-Koyukuk School District Education Models                                                                   
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
         YUKON-KOYUKUK SCHOOL DISTRICT EDUCATION MODELS                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
4:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN announced the consideration of a presentation Yukon-                                                                
Koyuku School District Education Models.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:10:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SCOTT  MACMANUS, Director,  Grants and  Special Projects,  Yukon-                                                               
Koyukuk School District, Fairbanks, Alaska,  said he was asked to                                                               
talk about his  personal experience with the  models of education                                                               
that  are available  in  Alaska. He  described  his education  in                                                               
Alaska as a child  and as an adult, and then  went on to describe                                                               
his work history  as a teacher. He has strived  to complete tasks                                                               
efficiently and  effectively and his experience  in education has                                                               
informed  him of  what works  and why.  He said  Alaskans have  a                                                               
broad selection of opportunities  to meet their educational needs                                                               
and  listed  the options.  Alaska's  education  system is  highly                                                               
flexible, and students  can achieve associate degrees  or a pilot                                                               
license  while   still  in  high  school.   This  flexibility  is                                                               
necessary because no  single model addresses the  varied needs of                                                               
students. Core  skills, like those  learned in the  military, are                                                               
different  from  academic  skills,   which  require  a  different                                                               
learning  model. Governor  Dunleavy's Alaska  Education Challenge                                                               
provided  him guidance  through COVID,  school closures,  and the                                                               
design of remote delivery systems.  While village schools are not                                                               
the same,  there are some similarities.  As a child, most  of the                                                               
children in the  village spoke Yupik as their  first language. In                                                               
his lifetime, this has changed,  and the purpose of rural schools                                                               
has shifted from supporting  a nomadic, subsistence-based economy                                                               
to providing skills for jobs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:15:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MACMANUS said  he and the students he grew  up with were from                                                               
low-income families.  Although some  of these students  have died                                                               
from suicide  and drug  abuse, others  have become  successful in                                                               
their careers.  Village schools use multi-level  instruction, and                                                               
schools are the center of the community.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:16:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MACMANUS  said  there  are   many  homeschool  programs  but                                                               
basically  two types.  First,  there  are unmonitored  homeschool                                                               
programs  where  the  parent  is   the  teacher.  Many  of  these                                                               
homeschool students  do not  take assessments  because it  is not                                                               
required, so their effectiveness is  unknown. The students who do                                                               
test do  well, but the  results are anecdotal. At  Alaska Gateway                                                               
School   District    (AGSD),   approximately   90    percent   of                                                               
correspondence students  in the REACH  program did not  test, and                                                               
at  Yukon-Koyukuk   School  District  (YKSD),   approximately  70                                                               
percent did  not test. Homeschool  programs are also  required to                                                               
file for  financial education  services even  though they  do not                                                               
receive funds,  which is an added  burden. Facilitated homeschool                                                               
programs are  different. They are hybrid  programs where students                                                               
are required  to check  in daily,  receive teacher  support, take                                                               
assessments,  and  have  peer  interaction.  The  hybrid  program                                                               
emerged   during  COVID,   and  students   in  the   program  are                                                               
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MACMANUS said  the Harvard study on  Alaska's charter schools                                                               
was done  five years  ago and  only addressed  grades 4-8.  He is                                                               
excited that Alaska's  charter students lead in  education and is                                                               
interested to know why they are successful.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MACMANUS said  Alaska has  a  successful language  immersion                                                               
school  in Bethel  with 100  percent teacher  retention over  the                                                               
last five years. Only 5.3 percent  of the students are in special                                                               
education. Parents  must apply for enrollment  and participate in                                                               
the school, and  class sizes are limited to  20 students. Schools                                                               
with these types  of benefits do well. By comparison,  Tok has 18                                                               
percent of enrolled  students in special education,  and YKSD has                                                               
25 percent. He opined that these percentages change outcomes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:19:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MACMANUS addressed  district  consolidation,  stating it  is                                                               
promoted as  a cost-saving measure,  but he  does not see  how it                                                               
will save  money unless  there is  a change  to the  Base Student                                                               
Allocation (BSA). Studies  indicate that a loss  of local control                                                               
will result  in negative student  performance. He opined  that he                                                               
does not  see how it  will save even  five cents and  believes it                                                               
will increase the complexity of  how students are served. He said                                                               
the key  question is what  works because education  excellence is                                                               
what Alaskans want. Educational excellence  is simple but hard to                                                               
achieve because it requires a  stable team of excellent teachers,                                                               
involved  and  committed parents  who  believe  in the  value  of                                                               
education, and  sufficient resources  for schools.  However, both                                                               
the  country  and  state denigrate  teachers,  which  discourages                                                               
people  from entering  the profession.  The damage  from this  is                                                               
greater than realized.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:20:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MACMANUS stated  Alaskan children are not lazy  and will work                                                               
for something that interests them.  He remarked that it is easier                                                               
to tear something down than to  build it up. The education system                                                               
has become  politicized and  weaponized by  individuals dedicated                                                               
to undermining  it. He  opined that it  is important  to maintain                                                               
local control  and adjust  where needed.  Simply asking  for more                                                               
money is  not the answer.  Creating more  accountability measures                                                               
for administrators  and schools  is unnecessary because  they are                                                               
already   accountable   to    parents,   school   boards,   state                                                               
legislators, and the state education system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TOBIN noticed  Mr.  Macmanus's new  title  as Director  of                                                               
Grants   and   Special   Projects.  She   asked   what   auditing                                                               
requirements he  must adhere  to and provide  to the  federal and                                                               
state government.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:21:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MACMANUS  replied there  are about  20 different  federal and                                                               
state funding sources. Currently,  monitoring is taking place for                                                               
Tanana  as  it  becomes  part of  Yukon-Koyukuk  School  District                                                               
(YKSD). Monitoring  is extensive, and  he has spent over  a month                                                               
addressing   questions    on   parent    communication,   teacher                                                               
qualifications, funding,  and procurement. Every  school district                                                               
undergoes  a  comprehensive  fiscal  audit,  including  tests  of                                                               
various  funds, reviews  of retirement  system payments,  and all                                                               
large payments. Preparing for the  audit takes an entire business                                                               
office  three   months  while  continuing  daily   work  and  one                                                               
exclusive  week  to  answer  auditors'  questions.  Grant  audits                                                               
differ  as  they  involve  a   close  examination  of  individual                                                               
purchases and ensuring money was correctly spent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Fireweed Academy                                                                                                 
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
                        FIREWEED ACADEMY                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:23:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  the   consideration  of  a  presentation                                                               
Fireweed Academy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:24:40 PM                                                                                                                    
TODD HINDMAN,  Presenter, Fireweed  Academy, Homer,  Alaska, said                                                               
he is a recently retired principal.  He gave a description of his                                                               
33-year  work  history in  education  at  schools of  choice.  He                                                               
provided information  based on his experience  working in schools                                                               
of  choice  within  the  public  school  system  and  shared  his                                                               
opinions about proposed changes to  charter schools in the state.                                                               
He stated  his belief that the  success of schools relies  on the                                                               
collaboration  of staff,  supportive  parents,  and students.  He                                                               
emphasized  that everyone  must  have  a say  in  the process  to                                                               
achieve the  school's goals, which  fosters a sense  of ownership                                                               
and responsibility.  He has  observed that  shared responsibility                                                               
among  students, parents,  teachers,  support professionals,  and                                                               
administrators  leads to  better  problem-solving,  and a  strong                                                               
school culture based on local needs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HINDMAN  highlighted  that   Alaska's  charter  schools  are                                                               
unique, established  by parents, teachers, and  community members                                                               
across the state,  each with a specialized  educational focus. He                                                               
suggested  that  the  Alaska   legislature  can  support  charter                                                               
schools  by  providing  a  localized,  flexible,  and  responsive                                                               
system  with meaningful  oversight and  resources. He  noted that                                                               
the process of  authorizing charter schools is  crucial for their                                                               
success and that  having authorizers based in  the same community                                                               
as the schools is best practice.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:27:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HINDMAN  cited the National Conference  of State Legislatures                                                               
(NCSL) as stating that while  school districts were initially the                                                               
main authorizers of  charter schools in the  U.S., other entities                                                               
were later  allowed to  increase the  number of  charter schools.                                                               
The NCSL determined that the  quantity of charter schools did not                                                               
affect the  quality of education  that charter  schools provided.                                                               
In  addition, states  that saw  the largest  increase in  charter                                                               
schools  also  experienced  increased  rates  of  charter  school                                                               
failures.   He argued that  limiting authorizers to  local school                                                               
districts  is not  a barrier  to charter  school development  and                                                               
that  financial   support  and   suitable  facilities   are  more                                                               
significant factors.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:27:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HINDMAN   discussed  the   roles  of   various  authorizers,                                                               
including  institutions of  higher learning  and state  boards of                                                               
education, noting  their limitations  in supporting  K-12 schools                                                               
effectively. He  emphasized that  local school districts  are the                                                               
best  suited  to  authorize  charter  schools  because  of  their                                                               
experience with day-to-day operations,  ability to provide timely                                                               
assistance,  and  understanding  of the  local  community.  Local                                                               
districts make up 90 percent  of authorizers. Outside authorizers                                                               
may hinder community trust and local control.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:31:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HINDMAN  stressed the importance  of local control  in public                                                               
education, which is  a fundamental belief in Alaska  and the U.S.                                                               
He stated his  belief that those closest to the  schools are best                                                               
suited  to  determine  their needs.  Charter  schools  in  Alaska                                                               
thrive  on  this philosophy,  given  autonomy  to make  decisions                                                               
about  academic  focus,  instruction, staffing,  leadership,  and                                                               
daily  operations.  Local control  is  the  greatest strength  of                                                               
Alaska's charter school system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  asked why  one of  Alaska's most  successful charter                                                               
schools has had very low teacher turnover.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:33:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HINDMAN replied  that teacher  turnover in  any school  is a                                                               
major concern. He said that having  lived in Nome for 17 years he                                                               
witnessed  the  impact of  high  turnover  in rural  Alaska.  New                                                               
teachers   often  do   not  know   the  students,   instructional                                                               
philosophies, or  curriculums well. Schools must  spend money and                                                               
time  on  training,  and  new   teachers  are  not  as  effective                                                               
initially. He  stated that he was  fortunate to work in  a school                                                               
in  Nome where  the staff  remained  consistent for  most of  his                                                               
tenure.  When  staff  members  work   together  over  time,  they                                                               
understand  each other's  strengths  and weaknesses,  collaborate                                                               
effectively,  and  build   strong  relationships  with  students,                                                               
enhancing their education.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: IDEA Homeschool Program                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                        
                    IDEA HOMESCHOOL PROGRAM                                                                                   
4:34:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the consideration  of a  presentation IDEA                                                               
Homeschool  Program. IDEA  is the  longest operating  and largest                                                               
homeschool program in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
DEAN  O'DELL,  Director,   IDEA  Homeschool  Program,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  said the  Interior Distance  Education of  Alaska (IDEA)                                                               
Homeschool Program  is part of  the Galena City  School District,                                                               
is  accredited  through Cognia,  and  is  a school  of  universal                                                               
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to  slide 2 and said IDEA is  a school of choice                                                               
but  we  are a  public  school  which  means  that we  have  open                                                               
enrollment  year-round. Some  homeschool  programs are  charters,                                                               
but  most  are  public  schools.  IDEA  serves  more  than  7,300                                                               
students in  Alaska, currently in  111 communities. IDEA  has six                                                               
regional offices, two extension  offices and two business offices                                                               
in Fairbanks and Galena:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Service to Alaska                                                                                                        
     IDEA is a public school, and a school of choice.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     IDEA  serves  approx.  7,300  students  living  in  111                                                                    
     communities,  and we  do  so from  six  regions and  10                                                                    
     offices  including two  business  offices in  Fairbanks                                                                    
     and Galena.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Region A/GA  Anchorage                                                                                                   
         Including rural communities with an Anchorage hub                                                                      
     • Region ER  Eagle River                                                                                                   
     • Region F/GF  Fairbanks                                                                                                   
         Including rural communities with a Fairbanks hub                                                                       
       • Region K/GK  Kenai Peninsula, with an extension                                                                        
        office in Anchor Point.                                                                                                 
         Including Kodiak, Seward, Homer                                                                                        
       • Region MS  Wasilla, with an extension office in                                                                        
        Palmer                                                                                                                  
     • Region SE  Juneau                                                                                                        
         Including rural southeast communities                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL  moved to slide  3, which provided IDEA's  core values                                                               
and purpose. He said the  general information about homeschooling                                                               
that  he shares  will  be  tied to  IDEA's  program policies  and                                                               
offerings and may not always represent every program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved  to slide 4 and stated that  IDEA was created by                                                               
homeschoolers for  homeschoolers and  honors parents as  the most                                                               
important teacher  a student will  ever have. IDEA  believes that                                                               
regardless of  whether children are  homeschooled, individualized                                                               
education is  the goal of every  educational model. Homeschooling                                                               
is  perhaps  the most  unique  opportunity  to meet  a  student's                                                               
individual needs. Building relationships is  at the core of IDEA.                                                               
Relationships are  needed to learn  about the students  and their                                                               
families and to build open  lines of communication. Families know                                                               
their students  best, but IDEA  can contribute to  that formative                                                               
data in new ways. IDEA  builds a toolkit of curriculum resources,                                                               
instructional  strategies,  and  interventions with  families  to                                                               
help them discover their own educational goals and achieve them.                                                                
He said  one of  the reasons more  families are  homeschooling is                                                               
that student socialization is no  longer seen as an issue. IDEA's                                                               
calendars are full  of clubs, groups, and  activities. IDEA works                                                               
to  develop learning  communities in  its offices,  remotely, and                                                               
virtually. The success of IDEA's students takes many forms.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:38:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to slide  5 and discussed enrollment criteria at                                                               
IDEA:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    • Enrollment criteria (simplified):                                                                                       
        • Physically present in Alaska and able to                                                                              
          homeschool.                                                                                                           
        • Requires a minimum number of classes, type of                                                                         
          classes and 'fundable' classes.                                                                                       
        • Faith-based  courses can  be done  for credit  but                                                                    
          cannot  be  counted   toward  fundable  enrollment                                                                    
          criteria:   State  funds   cannot   be  used   for                                                                    
          sectarian materials.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to slide 6 and said the following are                                                                          
requirements to remain in the program:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Ongoing requirement (simplified):                                                                                      
        • Families  must  be   willing  to  communicate  and                                                                    
          collaborate with certified staff.                                                                                     
        • An  individual  learning  plan  (ILP)  documenting                                                                    
          required  enrollment  criteria and  other  classes                                                                    
          must be created in that collaboration.                                                                                
        • Quarterly  samples and  semesterly grades  must be                                                                    
          reviewed in that collaboration.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:39:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to slide 7 and discussed family allotments:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Allotment purchases (simplified):                                                                                      
        • Purchases   must  be   tied  to   the  established                                                                    
          learning plan, must  not conflict with regulation,                                                                    
          and  must   abide  by   policies  that   IDEA  has                                                                    
          established as 'not excessive' and 'appropriate'.                                                                     
        • Allotments  are   monitored  through   our  Family                                                                    
          Allotment   System   Tracker   (FAST)   electronic                                                                    
          system.                                                                                                               
        • Regulation requires that  materials be returned to                                                                    
          IDEA  if  they  are not  consumable  or  otherwise                                                                    
          depreciated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:40:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL  moved to slide 8  and said IDEA always  strives to go                                                               
beyond what is  required in support of services  to families. She                                                               
stated  the  following is  a  partial  list of  services.  Parent                                                               
advisory  committees  play  a  key   role  in  IDEA's  continuous                                                               
improvement:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       Service to Alaska                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        IN EACH OF OUR REGIONAL FACILITIES, WE PROVIDE:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Certified  Contact  Teachers and  private  meeting                                                                    
          spaces                                                                                                                
        • Libraries, curriculum resource  rooms and Resource                                                                    
          Room Coordinators                                                                                                     
        • Public   spaces   for    clubs,   activities   and                                                                    
          educational community events.                                                                                         
        • A series of Curriculum  Fairs that draw curriculum                                                                    
          providers from across the nation.                                                                                     
        • Tech departments and tech support                                                                                     
        • Field   Representatives  to   support  enrollment,                                                                    
          advocacy and event planning                                                                                           
        • Parent Advisory Committees                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • Classified    staff     (receptionists,    coaches                                                                    
          clerical, and/or administrative) to support                                                                           
          general needs, student records and ordering                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Certified Special Education  Teachers, and special                                                                    
          education services:  Consultation on interventions                                                                    
          and  tools; evaluations  by school  psychologists;                                                                    
          speech/language     pathologists;     occupational                                                                    
          therapies;  arrangements  for  physical  therapies                                                                    
          and counseling                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        • Site Administrators                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        • Allotment, equipment                                                                                                  
           • & more                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:41:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to slide 9 and 10 and stated special education                                                                 
is a significant responsibility that IDEA takes seriously:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       Special Education                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        Like all public schools, IDEA must live into the                                                                        
        Individuals with Disabilities Education Act and                                                                         
     provide a free and appropriate public education.                                                                           
     IDEA Homeschool serves                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        • Over 500 special needs students (2023- 2024)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Put in perspective                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Of the 54 school districts in Alaska:                                                                                 
          • 31 of those districts have a total enrollment                                                                       
             (regular and special education) of fewer than                                                                      
             500 students. (Most recent data published by                                                                       
             DEED, 2022-2023)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  number  of  special  needs  students  in  IDEA  is                                                                    
     greater than  the total enrollment for  many individual                                                                    
     school districts in Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                   IDEA HOMESCHOOL PROVIDES:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • Certified Special Education Staffto develop IEPs                                                                      
          (together with parents and other certified staff)                                                                     
          and     to    provide     ongoing    consultation,                                                                    
          interventions, tools and support                                                                                      
        • School psychologists                                                                                                  
        • Speech/language pathologists                                                                                          
        • Occupational therapists                                                                                               
        • Physical therapy                                                                                                      
        • Mental health services                                                                                                
        • Classified special education record keepers                                                                           
        • Significant ongoing support from our regular                                                                          
          education certified and classified staff                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:42:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL moved to slide 11 and discussed post-secondary                                                                       
opportunities and success as part of IDEA's strategic planning                                                                  
goals:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     IDEA   supports  the   post-secondary   goals  of   all                                                                    
     students!                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     College bound students can  begin university courses in                                                                    
     high school,  and they have  access to a wide  range of                                                                    
     college prep  opportunities   as  well as  IDEA created                                                                    
     post-secondary planning and workshops.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Career and  vocational students have  access to  a wide                                                                    
     variety of curriculum,  as well as a  growing number of                                                                    
       partnerships in trades, apprenticeships, welding,                                                                        
    industrial   training,   aviation,   carpentry,   video                                                                     
     production, emergency services? and more!                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Counseling, SEL, and general mental health support                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Non-competitive clubs, groups and activities                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Competitive clubs                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    Individualized    success     through    individualized                                                                     
     education                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     2022-2023 IDEA State Champions!                                                                                          
     Pentathlon                                                                                                                 
     Lightbotics (Robotics)                                                                                                     
     Gadget Girls (Robotics)                                                                                                    
     Battle of the Books  grs. 5/6                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     2022-2023 IDEA State 2nd Place!                                                                                          
     Academic Decathlon                                                                                                         
     Battle of the Books  high school                                                                                           
     Battle of the Books  grs. 3/4                                                                                              
     Hungry Robots (Robotics)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL  opined that it is  only a matter of  time before IDEA                                                               
students beat every  school in the country in one  or more of the                                                               
competitive groups because they place well at nationals.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:43:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL said  success looks different depending  on the child.                                                               
The flexibility  of homeschool provides students  the opportunity                                                               
to  follow their  dreams.  He referred  members  to the  appendix                                                               
[IDEA: Measuring  Success One Story  at A time!] for  examples of                                                               
student's success stories.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  O'DELL expressed  gratitude  for the  students and  families                                                               
that IDEA  serves and for  colleagues in  traditional residential                                                               
schools  and alternative  programs,  because  education is  never                                                               
one-size-fits-all.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL   asked  about  the  testing   rate  among  Alaska                                                               
homeschool  students and  ideas  for  improving data  collection,                                                               
noting that  the statewide rate  is much lower than  IDEA's rate.                                                               
He  mentioned hearing  once  that  if a  person  walked into  the                                                               
Department of  Education claiming  two-thirds of  homeschool kids                                                               
do not  know how to  read, the  department wouldn't have  data to                                                               
prove otherwise.  He asked what  could be done to  increase these                                                               
rates.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. O'DELL admitted there are  challenges. He noted that the most                                                               
recent testing rate with AK STAR  has been 15 percent. Before the                                                               
change  to  AK STAR,  the  rate  was  initially 15  percent  when                                                               
parents could  opt out,  which grew to  30 percent.  He mentioned                                                               
the hope of  reaching 40 to 50 percent or  higher because parents                                                               
find value  in the data.  He said maintaining consistency  in the                                                               
test  and  addressing the  delays  in  score reporting  would  be                                                               
beneficial  because parents  struggle to  see the  value in  data                                                               
when they can't trust or predict the timing of results.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL derailed train of thought.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:47:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said Mr. O'Dell  could send additional suggestions to                                                               
the committee in writing.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: The Nations Charter Report Card                                                                                  
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
                THE NATIONS CHARTER REPORT CARD                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
4:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the consideration  of a  presentation, The                                                               
Nations Charter Report Card and introduced Mr. Peterson.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:48:34 PM                                                                                                                    
PAUL  PETERSON,  Professor,  Public  Policy,  Harvard  University                                                               
Professor,  Cambridge Massachusetts,  moved  to slide  2 said  he                                                               
directs  the program  on education,  policy,  and governance.  He                                                               
conducted a study  of charter schools in the  United States using                                                               
data  from  the  National   Assessment  of  Educational  Progress                                                               
(NAEP), also known as The  Nation's Report Card. Set up initially                                                               
in 1969  and greatly  expanded in 1990,  NAEP has  provided high-                                                               
quality data  on student  performance in  math and  reading since                                                               
2000.  Every two  years, representative  samples  of students  in                                                               
each  state   are  tested,  with   other  subjects   tested  less                                                               
frequently.  Sample  school  districts and  charter  schools  are                                                               
expected  to  participate.  Although NAEP  was  not  specifically                                                               
designed  to  evaluate  charter   schools,  it  has  collected  a                                                               
representative sample of charter  school students over time. This                                                               
data  allows  for  an analysis  of  states  with  high-performing                                                               
charter schools and those with lower performance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:50:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  moved slide 3 and  said his research looked  at the                                                               
results from  24 of  surveys. He stated  that they  combined them                                                               
into  a total  of 145,000  tests nationwide,  with Alaska  having                                                               
2,430  tests,   which  is  sizable  enough   to  draw  reasonable                                                               
conclusions. Peterson mentioned that  a good poll typically needs                                                               
1,000 students.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:50:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  moved to slide  4 and  said the study  adjusted for                                                               
the background of  the students to compare  similar students from                                                               
different states. Adjustments were  made for students' ethnicity,                                                               
gender, grade,  eligibility for free and  reduced lunch, location                                                               
(urban  or rural),  special  education  status, English  Language                                                               
Learner status,  computer availability  at home, number  of books                                                               
at home,  and parental  education. These  adjustments aim  to put                                                               
the students on a common scale.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:51:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON moved  to slide 5 and said the  students were ranked                                                               
based  on their  scores from  2009  to 2019.  He emphasized  that                                                               
high-quality  data has  not been  available since  2019 and  that                                                               
post-COVID  data  for  this analysis  is  still  unavailable.  He                                                               
clarified that the study compares  charter schools to one another                                                               
across the country, not charter  schools to district schools. The                                                               
analysis  examines whether  schools in  one state  perform better                                                               
than those in another, measured  in standard deviations. Peterson                                                               
noted that one standard deviation  equals four years of learning,                                                               
so  0.3 standard  deviations  represent a  little  more than  one                                                               
year's worth of learning.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON moved  to slide  6 and  stated the  study has  some                                                               
limitations. He  noted that  trends over  time cannot  be traced,                                                               
there is no  information about virtual charter  schools, and only                                                               
fourth  and eighth  grade data  is available.  Peterson mentioned                                                               
that the  study does not include  high schools and that  the data                                                               
ends in 2019.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON moved  to slide  7 and  said he  and other  charter                                                               
school researchers  were surprised  to find  that Alaska  has the                                                               
highest  student performance  in  the  country. Alaska's  charter                                                               
school students outperform those  in Colorado, Massachusetts, New                                                               
York, New Jersey,  and Florida, all known  for strong performance                                                               
in this  sector. The  difference between  Alaska and  the average                                                               
charter school student in the  United States is equivalent to one                                                               
year's  worth   of  learning.  If  compared   to  Tennessee,  the                                                               
difference in learning is two  years. Peterson noted that not all                                                               
charter  schools  are  alike.  He concluded  that  Alaska  has  a                                                               
constellation  of effective  charter  schools or  at least  high-                                                               
performing students in those schools.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:53:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL noted  that the standard deviation  for these tests                                                               
is  presented in  terms of  points on  the website.  He mentioned                                                               
that a  third of  a standard  deviation for  fourth-grade reading                                                               
equates to 13  points on a 500-point scale,  which corresponds to                                                               
a  year of  learning. He  asked if,  on average,  a fifth  grader                                                               
would score 13  points higher in reading than a  fourth grader on                                                               
a 500-point scale.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:54:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  replied that  he did  not have  the point  scale on                                                               
hand.  He  estimated  that  a standard  deviation  in  points  is                                                               
approximately 32 points but was not certain.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:54:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  observed that  the tests are  normed by  years and                                                               
asked  if the  tests are  given in  years other  than fourth  and                                                               
eighth grade.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON replied  that the tests are  administered in fourth,                                                               
eighth,  and  twelfth  grades. However,  twelfth  grade  was  not                                                               
included in the  study due to an insufficient  number of twelfth-                                                               
grade  charter school  students.  He stated  that a  fourth-grade                                                               
student would score one standard  deviation below an eighth-grade                                                               
student on  the eighth-grade  test and  vice versa.  He explained                                                               
that if an  eighth grader took the fourth-grade  test, the eighth                                                               
grader  would perform  four  years of  learning  better than  the                                                               
fourth grader.  He clarified that  one standard  deviation higher                                                               
is equivalent to four years of learning.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  said he would take  a closer look at  how the test                                                               
is devised.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON said  he would provide a written  explanation to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:55:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  moved to slide  8, a chart comparing  state charter                                                               
and public-school  rankings. He  noted the  chart was  created by                                                               
the Urban  Institute based on National  Assessment of Educational                                                               
Progress (NAEP)  results. He  explained that  not all  states are                                                               
included because  some do  not have charter  schools or  have too                                                               
few  charter  schools  for statistical  analysis.  Among  the  35                                                               
states compared, Alaska ranks first  for charter schools and last                                                               
for  public  schools. He  highlighted  this  as remarkable  since                                                               
states usually have similar rankings  for both public and charter                                                               
schools, citing  Massachusetts and  Colorado as examples  of high                                                               
performance in both categories.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:57:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON moved  to  slide  9 and  stated  that Alaska  ranks                                                               
number  one only  after making  background  adjustments, such  as                                                               
eligibility for free and reduced  lunch. Using raw scores, Alaska                                                               
ranks seventh.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  moved to slide 10,  a chart showing the  ranking of                                                               
states  on  adjusted  fourth and  eighth  grade  performances  of                                                               
charter students  in math.  He said that  in math  Alaska charter                                                               
students  did  a  lot  better  than  Massachusetts  and  Colorado                                                               
charter students.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON moved  to slide 11, which displayed  a chart ranking                                                               
states  on  adjusted  fourth and  eighth  grade  performances  of                                                               
charter students in  math and reading. He noted  that in reading,                                                               
Alaska charter students ranked third,  with scores slightly below                                                               
New Hampshire  and Colorado but slightly  above Massachusetts. He                                                               
added  that when  reading and  math scores  are combined,  Alaska                                                               
ranks number one due to the high math scores.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:58:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON moved  to slide 12, which displayed  a chart ranking                                                               
states  on  adjusted  fourth and  eighth  grade  performances  of                                                               
lower-income  charter students.  He  stated that  the study  also                                                               
analyzed  findings based  on income,  determined  by a  student's                                                               
eligibility  for  free and  reduced  lunch.  He highlighted  that                                                               
lower-income Alaska charter school students ranked first.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON  moved to  slide 13  and said  the chart  shows that                                                               
higher-income charter school students  in Alaska ranked third. He                                                               
stated  this  data  suggests  that  Alaska  charter  schools  are                                                               
effectively serving students across the socioeconomic spectrum.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON moved  to slide 14 and noted that  the population of                                                               
White  charter students  in Alaska  was large  enough to  compare                                                               
against  other  states. When  this  comparison  was done,  Alaska                                                               
charter students ranked third. This  indicates that Alaska's high                                                               
ranking  is not  solely due  to  White students,  as the  overall                                                               
ranking  rises  to  first  when all  students  are  included.  He                                                               
mentioned  that Indigenous  students make  up the  second largest                                                               
population  of charter  students in  Alaska, at  approximately 17                                                               
percent of the  NAEP sample. He affirmed that  although the sizes                                                               
of  this  and   other  groups  are  too   small  for  statistical                                                               
comparisons against other states, the  data does not suggest that                                                               
charter schools are  more effective for White  students. In fact,                                                               
the  data implies  that charter  schools are  more effective  for                                                               
non-White students.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:00:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON moved  to slides  15 -  16 and  said Alaska  ranked                                                               
first for both urban and  rural classifications. Alaska generally                                                               
performs well statewide.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:01:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON moved  to slides  17 -  18 and  said both  boys and                                                               
girls do well in Alaska's charter schools.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON said that it is  reasonable to say that the findings                                                               
from the  National Assessment of  Educational Progress  are quite                                                               
consistent.  Alaska's charter  sector  shows  consistency in  all                                                               
domains  and does  remarkably well  compared  to charter  schools                                                               
elsewhere.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:01:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON moved to slide  19 and discussed additional findings                                                               
from the study:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                      Additional findings                                                                                       
        • Charters authorized by state agencies (board or                                                                       
          department) outperform charters authorized by                                                                         
          other entities                                                                                                        
        • Charters    authorized    by   higher    education                                                                    
          institutions show lower performances                                                                                  
        • Standalone and for-profit charters do not perform                                                                     
          as well as those in nonprofit charter school                                                                          
          networks                                                                                                              
        • Specialized   charters   outperform   those   with                                                                    
          generic objectives                                                                                                    
        • No effects of funding  level, or the percentage of                                                                    
          charter students in state                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:05:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON moved  to slide 20 and concluded  with the following                                                               
points:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                           Take-aways                                                                                           
        • Charter  student  performance   varies  widely  by                                                                    
          state   even    after   adjusting    for   student                                                                    
          background.                                                                                                           
        • Alaska stands  first in  overall rankings  and for                                                                    
          many subgroups.                                                                                                       
        • Alaska stands  first in math  and third  (tied for                                                                    
          second) in reading performances                                                                                       
        • Charter   performance   is  highest   in   schools                                                                    
          authorized by state agency.                                                                                           
        • Student  performance  is   higher  at  specialized                                                                    
          charter schools.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:05:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  inquired about  the  sample  size of  students                                                               
taking  the National  Assessment of  Educational Progress  (NAEP)                                                               
test.  Based  on  his  experience   teaching  middle  school,  he                                                               
observed that  a very small group  of students, if any,  took the                                                               
NAEP  test   each  semester.  [Referring   to  slide  3   of  the                                                               
presentation,]  he noted  that Alaska's  ranking is  based on  24                                                               
NAEP  surveys  over  a 10-year  period,  involving  2,430  Alaska                                                               
charter students. He  asked if this means that  243 students were                                                               
tested  annually,  with  a  sample   size  of  121  students  per                                                               
semester.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PETERSON replied  that the  test is  administered every  two                                                               
years, not every  semester. He clarified that there  are 24 waves                                                               
of  tests,  including  fourth and  eighth  grades,  and  covering                                                               
reading and  math. He emphasized  that conclusions should  not be                                                               
drawn   from   any   single   test.   However,   when   combining                                                               
representative samples  over an 11-year period  with 24 different                                                               
surveys and ensuring  the sample sizes are  representative of the                                                               
population,  it  is  reasonable  to  conclude  there  are  enough                                                               
observations to draw a conclusion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN replied that according  to his quick calculation                                                               
that would be 61 kids per test taken.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON replied no conclusions  should be drawn based on one                                                               
test.                                                                                                                           
5:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN agreed  but asked if the study is  based on [61]                                                               
students taking each test per grade.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  replied that he does  not know the exact  number of                                                               
students per test,  but the combined total number  of tests taken                                                               
by students was 2,400. He explained  that the study is not broken                                                               
out  by  year   to  show  growth  over  time   to  avoid  drawing                                                               
conclusions based on  a single test. Instead,  the study examines                                                               
results over time to determine the overall performance level.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN said statewide NAEP  is unable to make assumptions on                                                               
black students  in Alaska because  the sample size is  too small.                                                               
She therefore  found it  curious that the  study by  Mr. Peterson                                                               
could  draw  conclusions  about   students  of  color  in  Alaska                                                               
attending charter schools.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:08:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  noted that there  are about 30 charter  schools in                                                               
Alaska.  He  asked  what assurance  exists  that  charter  school                                                               
administrators  are  not  selectively  sending  Ivy  League-bound                                                               
students to take the NAEP assessment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON  replied that state proficiency  tests, administered                                                               
and required by No Child  Left Behind and subsequent legislation,                                                               
test every  student, making each classroom's  results and teacher                                                               
performance   estimable  from   the   data.   Schools  are   held                                                               
accountable for student performance,  which raises concerns about                                                               
data  manipulation  to  appear  more  favorable.  He  noted  that                                                               
cheating  has  occurred  in  cities  like  Atlanta  and  Chicago,                                                               
indicating  efforts to  manipulate test  performance are  a known                                                               
issue with  high-stakes tests. State  testing regimens  are high-                                                               
stakes tests,  whereas NAEP  is a  low-stakes test,  with student                                                               
identities kept  anonymous. This anonymity makes  it difficult to                                                               
access  and analyze  specific data.  The Department  of Education                                                               
has ensured  that no  information is  leaked that  could identify                                                               
individuals. Because  NAEP is a  low-stakes test, it  is unlikely                                                               
that administrators  would selectively send  only high-performing                                                               
students to take the test.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL [indiscernible]                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:11:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  mentioned that she looked  for the data used  in the                                                               
charter  school  study  and  found that  it  is  restricted.  She                                                               
questioned how the study could be replicated.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:11:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON replied  that the  data is  available to  qualified                                                               
researchers. Anyone can replicate the  study, if they are willing                                                               
to go through a long-complicated process to obtain the data.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:12:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  said she  might go  through that  process as  she is                                                               
going through  the Institutional  Review Board (IRB)  process for                                                               
another study.  She noted that  Mr. Peterson's  report referenced                                                               
data from  a 2003 report by  Caroline Hoxby, which had  sparked a                                                               
significant   academic  debate   regarding   its  efficacy.   She                                                               
expressed concern  about Mr. Peterson  referencing that  data and                                                               
questioned how  members can trust  the accuracy of  the presented                                                               
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:12:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PETERSON replied  that his study did not rely  on Ms. Hoxby's                                                               
work.  He  referenced the  2003  data  to highlight  the  limited                                                               
research  on  Alaska's  charter  schools. He  stated  he  had  no                                                               
comment  on the  quality  of that  study.  He questioned  whether                                                               
members  trust the  National Assessment  of Educational  Progress                                                               
(NAEP)  to  obtain a  representative  sample  of students,  given                                                               
their  75 years  of expertise.  He emphasized  that he  would not                                                               
have  conducted  the   study  if  he  did  not   believe  in  the                                                               
government's capacity to perform this task effectively.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. TOBIN responded  that she looks forward to  knowing when NAEP                                                               
would be able to quantify folks like her.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:14:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL remarked  that a  cynic might  suggest maintaining                                                               
the status quo. However, he  acknowledged people have significant                                                               
interest  in  expanding  and replicating  successful  models.  He                                                               
referred  to  a potential  cause  for  success mentioned  in  the                                                               
presentationauthorizers.  He noted  that the presentation pointed                                                               
out state  agencies as authorizers  lead to greater  success, but                                                               
in Alaska,  local school districts  authorize with  the potential                                                               
for appeal. He asked for thoughts  on why Alaska is an outlier in                                                               
the data regarding authorizers as a potential causal factor.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:15:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON  replied  that  he   did  not  know  why  and  that                                                               
discovering the  reason would be  remarkable. He admitted  he had                                                               
not  studied  Alaska's  culture,  traditions,  and  practices  in                                                               
depth, so no conclusions should  be drawn from his work regarding                                                               
the  reasons behind  the data.  His  study aimed  to highlight  a                                                               
level of  performance in  Alaska's charter  schools that  had not                                                               
been  previously  recognized  and  to  suggest  that  the  Alaska                                                               
charter  sector  warrants  further consideration.  He  emphasized                                                               
that  understanding why  requires  more study  and that  insights                                                               
from people who  have lived in Alaska would be  more valuable. He                                                               
suggested that  this question  be directed  at fellow  members of                                                               
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:16:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL replied  that with  60 members  there would  be at                                                               
least 80 strong opinions.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:16:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  mentioned that  an  excellent  principal started  a                                                               
charter  school  in  Nome  with her  father.  She  expressed  her                                                               
excitement about  the information presented and  her anticipation                                                               
for future research.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:16:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PETERSON clarified  in response  to  Chair Tobin's  previous                                                               
comment about data on Black  students that the population size is                                                               
too small to  draw conclusions. He reiterated  that White charter                                                               
students  in Alaska  ranked third,  but all  charter students  in                                                               
Alaska ranked  first. He  noted that  other students  are lifting                                                               
the ranking, but there is no  data to indicate which group(s) are                                                               
responsible.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:18:12 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Tobin adjourned  the Senate  Education Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 5:18 p.m.                                                                                                            

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