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02/05/2024 08:00 AM Senate EDUCATION

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08:04:35 AM Presentation: State of Pk-12 Education in Alaska
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Dr. Lisa S. Parady, Executive Director, Alaska
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Dr. Roy Getchell, President, Alaska
Superintendents Association
Rick Dormer, President, Alaska Association of
Secondary School Principals
Josh Gill, President, Alaska Association of
Elementary School Principals
Heather Heineken, Alaska Association of School
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 5, 2024                                                                                        
                           8:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Löki Tobin, Chair                                                                                                      
 Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                               
 Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                         
 Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                            
 Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                          
 Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                      
 Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                       
 Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                    
 Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                       
 Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                               
 Representative Andi Story                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Ortiz                                                                                                            
Representative Schrage                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: STATE OF PK-12 EDUCATION IN Alaska                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LISA PARADY, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Alaska Council of School Administrators                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ROY GETCHELL, President                                                                                                         
Alaska Superintendents Association                                                                                              
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RICK DORMER, President                                                                                                          
Alaska Association of Secondary School Principals                                                                               
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JOSH GILL, President                                                                                                            
Alaska Association of Elementary School Principals                                                                              
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER HEINEKEN, President                                                                                                     
Alaska Association of School Business Officials                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DOUG GRAY, Director                                                                                                             
Profession Development                                                                                                          
Alaska Staff Development Network                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented State of PK-12 Education in                                                                  
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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8:03:28 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  LÖKI TOBIN  called the  joint  meeting of  the Senate  and                                                             
House Education Standing Committees to  order at 8:03 a.m. Senate                                                               
members  present  at  the  call to  order  were  Senators  Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens, Gray-Jackson, Bjorkman,  and Chair Tobin. Representative                                                               
members present at  the call to order  were Representatives Prax,                                                               
Co-chair   Allard,   Co-Chair    Ruffridge,   McCormick,   McKay,                                                               
Himschoot, and Story.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: State of PK-12 Education in Alaska                                                                               
                         PRESENTATION:                                                                                      
               STATE OF PK-12 EDUCATION IN ALASKA                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
8:04:35 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  announced the consideration of  a presentation State                                                               
of PK-12 Education in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Chair Tobin  stated that today's  presentations will be  from the                                                               
Alaska   Council  of   School  Administrators   and  its   member                                                               
organizations. She  mentioned that  the committee will  hear from                                                               
those on the  front lines providing public  education to Alaska's                                                               
students. The presentations include the:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Alaska Council of School Administrators                                                                                    
   • Alaska Superintendents Association                                                                                         
   • Alaska Association of Secondary School Principals                                                                          
   • Alaska Association of Elementary School Principals                                                                         
   • Alaska Association of Business Professionals.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:05:42 AM                                                                                                                    
LISA  PARADY,  Executive  Director,   Alaska  Council  of  School                                                               
Administrators  (ACSA),  Juneau,  Alaska  moved to  slide  1  and                                                               
introduced the  ACSA. She said  the ACSA is a  private, nonprofit                                                               
organization that  has served the  needs of school  districts and                                                               
its members  across Alaska for more  than 50 years. She  has been                                                               
in this  job for 10  years, and  members have been  presenting to                                                               
the  legislature for  more than  a decade  allowing educators  to                                                               
share a "boots on the  ground" perspective and enabling committee                                                               
members to ask  questions and understand what  is happening daily                                                               
in  school   districts  and   schools,  directly   affecting  our                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:06:24 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY moved  to slide  2 and  introduced the  ACSA umbrella                                                               
organizations that would present.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:07:53 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  moved to  slide 3  and stated  that she  included the                                                               
slide of  an Alaska  map divided by  region so  committee members                                                               
could see their region of the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
She emphasized that  for educators, it serves as  a good reminder                                                               
that  while  they  advocate  for  individual  districts  and  the                                                               
students in those districts, they  also advocate for every child.                                                               
Each  committee member  has a  statewide responsibility  to every                                                               
student  in Alaska  to  ensure they  receive  the education  they                                                               
deserve. Members  of ACSA understand  they are here on  behalf of                                                               
every  student,  highlighting  the  inclusive  nature  of  public                                                               
education, which serves every child as they come.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  moved to slide 4  and said in the  packet provided to                                                               
committee members,  there is  a product  that has  been developed                                                               
over  many  years:  the ACSA  joint  position  statements.  These                                                               
statements represent the highest  priorities for public education                                                               
at  the current  time. They  are  the result  of a  collaborative                                                               
effort  among members  from every  region  in Alaska,  discussing                                                               
current  issues and  what needs  to be  stressed to  policymakers                                                               
regarding  district   and  school   needs  for  students.     She                                                               
maintained that  student achievement  is the number  one priority                                                               
and  remains  at  the  forefront   of  all  their  efforts,  with                                                               
sustainable funding being the most critical need.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:10:14 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN  announced  that  Representative  Ortiz  joined  the                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:10:20 AM                                                                                                                    
ROY  GETCHELL,  President,  Alaska  Superintendents  Association,                                                               
Haines,  Alaska, moved  to  slide 5  and  introduced himself  and                                                               
provided a brief history of his 33 years in education.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:11:24 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL  moved  to  slide   6  and  introduced  the  Alaska                                                               
Superintendent Association  Board of Director. He  said Alaska is                                                               
a large state  with a variety of needs therefore  it is important                                                               
to   have  a   voice  at   the  table   to  provide   support  to                                                               
superintendents throughout Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:12:08 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL moved  to slide  7 and  recalled learning  that the                                                               
federal government  purposely left  the responsibility  of public                                                               
education up to  the states. He spoke  to Alaska's constitutional                                                               
duty to education:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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                      Constitutional Duty                                                                                     
             Priority Funding for Public Education                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     The    State   of    Alaska   has    a   constitutional                                                                    
     responsibility  to  public  education, which  means  to                                                                    
     provide timely,  reliable, and predictable  revenue for                                                                    
     schools, funding  the actual  cost of education  in all                                                                    
     districts  and to  provide full  and equitable  funding                                                                    
     for all  initiatives, laws,  and mandates  that require                                                                    
     additional  resources.  Early notification  of  funding                                                                  
     and predictable funding are  crucial to sound financial                                                                  
     management,  as well  as recruitment  and retention  of                                                                  
     quality educators.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
8:13:22 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL moved  to slide 8 a bar graph  that depicts Alaska's                                                               
purchasing power  using data provided by  Legislative Finance. He                                                               
noted  that the  black line  shows inflation  adjusting to  FY 12                                                               
value. He pointed  out that educators can't  create budgets using                                                               
one time funding.  The $87.4 million in outside  funding that his                                                               
district received  was about  5 percent of  the total  budget. He                                                               
started the  year with  a 10 percent  fund balance  and expressed                                                               
that he  started the school  year halfway  in the hole.  He noted                                                               
that he cannot budget based on one time funding.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:14:30 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL  moved to  slide 9 and  discussed the  importance of                                                               
funding inside the Base Student Allocation (BSA):                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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                    Why Fund Inside the BSA?                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • Reliability                                                                                                                
   • Predictability                                                                                                             
   • Putting one time money into fixed costs is                                                                                 
     discouraged, risky, and uncertain                                                                                          
   • Allows our School Boards to be better stewards of                                                                          
     their  obligation to  adopt  budgets  for their  school                                                                    
     districts                                                                                                                  
   • One time money does not meet the needs of teachers,                                                                        
     classrooms, other educators and students in the future                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:15:36 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL moved  to slide  10 and  provided a  cost-of-living                                                               
example, explaining that there are  three factors in the formula.                                                               
He noted  that one  of these  factors is  the cost  component. He                                                               
asked   members   to   consider  their   own   living   expenses,                                                               
acknowledging that costs may seem  cheap to some and expensive to                                                               
others.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He highlighted the  example of Haines, emphasizing  a cost factor                                                               
of 1.2  in the formula.  He then  compared this to  the Northwest                                                               
Arctic, which has a cost  factor of 1.82, illustrating the higher                                                               
living costs  there. He indicated that  this example demonstrates                                                               
routine items and familiar costs in different communities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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                    Cost of Living Examples                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Haines Borough School District                                                                                           
     • One Bedroom Apartment  $1250                                                                                             
     • Gallon of Milk  $8.99                                                                                                    
      • Case of Bottled Water  $ 24.99 • Dozen Eggs  $6.99                                                                      
     • Gallon of Gasoline - $5.54                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Northwest Arctic School District                                                                                         
     • One Bedroom Apartment  $1800/month (plus utilities)                                                                      
     • Gallon of Milk  $10 - $30 (depending on region)                                                                          
     • Case of Bottled Water  $38-$50                                                                                           
     • Dozen Eggs  $9.59                                                                                                        
     • Heating Fuel - $9.97/gallon (Noatak - flown in)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:16:32 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL  moved  to  slide   11  and  described  it  as  the                                                               
opportunity graph. The  graph shows what the BSA  would have been                                                               
if inflation  adjusted since 2017  - FY 25.   He pointed  out his                                                               
pin, which says  "1413," representing the dollar  gap between the                                                               
top of  the red line  and the pencil tip  on the far  right. This                                                               
gap illustrates the  difference in the opportunity  to pay bills,                                                               
hire   high-quality   teachers,    and   innovate   for   student                                                               
achievement. He  stressed that concerns over  basic expenses like                                                               
fuel  and snowplow  bills create  lost opportunities  for student                                                               
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:17:39 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL moved  to slide 12 and emphasized  that education is                                                               
accountable.  He cited  his administrative  assistant in  Haines,                                                               
who has served for 34 years  and maintains a growing list of over                                                               
50  tasks   that  she  performs.  These   tasks  include  Special                                                               
Education audits, compliance checks  for funding and grant money,                                                               
state  monitoring of  federal programs,  multiple On-line  Alaska                                                               
School  Information   System  (Oasis)  reports,   attendance  and                                                               
achievement data for various grants  and program audits. He noted                                                               
that these reports  require significant time and  are crucial for                                                               
accountability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:18:49 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL  moved to slide 13  to address the cost  of district                                                               
administration.  He  explained  that  personnel  costs  typically                                                               
range from 80 percent to 90  percent of a district's expenses. In                                                               
administration for  the five largest school  districts in Alaska,                                                               
costs  range  from  0.4  percent  in Mat-Su  to  1.4  percent  in                                                               
Fairbanks.   He    aimed   to   clarify    misconceptions   about                                                               
administrative expenses by presenting these figures.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     District Expenditures: District Administration                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Anchorage School District               1.1 percent                                                                        
     Fairbanks North Star School District    1.4 percent                                                                        
     Juneau School District                  .435 percent                                                                       
     Kenai School District                   .88 percent                                                                        
     Mat-Su School District                  .4 percent                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL moved  to slide  14  and apologized  for the  dense                                                               
data, directing attendees to a  source for deeper exploration. He                                                               
highlighted the change  in average teacher salaries  from 1989 to                                                               
1990, noting  a decrease  from $95,847  to $73,722  in equivalent                                                               
dollars. He  attributed this decline  partly to  teacher turnover                                                               
and the  absence of the  defined benefit program that  existed in                                                               
1989, which previously helped retain teachers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:21:39 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL  moved  to  slide  15  to  discuss  the  number  of                                                               
emergency certificates  and first-day  vacancies. He  pointed out                                                               
the significant increase  in vacancies from about 150  in 2020 to                                                               
over 500  today. The number  of emergency certificates  also rose                                                               
sharply during  the COVID-19 pandemic, reflecting  the challenges                                                               
in  recruitment  and  the  need   for  emergency  hires  to  fill                                                               
vacancies. He  noted that the  rise in emergency  certificates is                                                               
almost on the same trajectory as  the number of first day teacher                                                               
vacancies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:22:51 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL moved  to slide 16 to highlight the  cost of teacher                                                               
turnover.  He  referenced  a  2017  ICER  study  indicating  that                                                               
replacing a teacher costs a district  at least $20,000 and a 2019                                                               
RAND study  showing that  the cost of  replacing a  principal was                                                               
$75,000.  He  emphasized  the   learning  costs  associated  with                                                               
turnover,  noting its  negative  impact  on student  achievement,                                                               
especially among  minority and low-performing  students. Mid-year                                                               
turnover exacerbates these  challenges, often requiring emergency                                                               
hires.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:23:56 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.   GETCHELL  moved   to   slide  17,   showing   a  photo   of                                                               
superintendents  in  Alaska  when  he   was  hired  in  2018.  He                                                               
highlighted  the  high  turnover rate  among  superintendents  by                                                               
noting  that, in  a six-year  period,  seven superintendents  had                                                               
changed districts,  eight remained in  the same district,  and 39                                                               
had  left, retired,  or found  other  work. He  stated that  high                                                               
turnover of superintendents leads to instability.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:24:56 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL  moved  to  slide   18  and  stated  that  ensuring                                                               
superintendents  are  effective in  their  roles  is crucial  for                                                               
student   stability.  He   highlighted  the   New  Superintendent                                                               
Induction Support  Program, which  he found  extremely beneficial                                                               
when he was  a new superintendent. This  program involves meeting                                                               
several  times a  year with  new and  experienced colleagues  and                                                               
mentors. He shared that his district  had the foresight to hire a                                                               
mentor  who had  previously worked  in the  same district,  which                                                               
greatly  aided his  development. The  program provides  in-depth,                                                               
on-the-job  learning  opportunities  for  first  and  second-year                                                               
superintendents, recognizing  that the first couple  of years are                                                               
critical. Typically,  after two  to three  years, superintendents                                                               
are well on their way to success.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     New Superintendent Induction and Support Program                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Superintendent Turnover                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • ASA provides voluntary in-depth on the job learning                                                                        
     opportunities to first and second year superintendents                                                                     
    relevant   to   the    Alaska   school   district   and                                                                     
     superintendent experience and                                                                                              
   • ASA provides individual support through a research-                                                                        
     based mentoring program                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:25:44 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL  moved to  slide 19 and  provided outcome  data from                                                               
the New Superintendent Induction and Support Program:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     New Superintendent Induction and Support Program                                                                         
        • Since the program began 5 years ago                                                                                   
         • 72 percent of superintendents have participated                                                                      
            in the program                                                                                                      
         • 88 percent of 2022-2023 first year                                                                                   
            superintendents returned to their position this                                                                     
            school year                                                                                                         
         • 100 percent of the 2023-2024 cohort are on track                                                                     
            to return for their second year                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:35 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  what is included in  the administrative cost                                                               
percentage.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL   replied  that  a   significant  portion   of  the                                                               
administrative  cost is  attributed to  training investments.  He                                                               
emphasized  that  districts  invest  heavily  in  training  their                                                               
principals,   covering   necessary    skills,   leadership,   and                                                               
mentorship.  These investments  are essential  for principals  to                                                               
meet  the demands  of  their roles  effectively.  He likened  the                                                               
situation   to  starting   over  each   time  a   leader  leaves,                                                               
highlighting the high costs involved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He shared  that the Haines  Borough School District  has invested                                                               
substantial  resources  to  ensure   he  receives  the  necessary                                                               
support  and  training to  succeed  as  a leader.  This  includes                                                               
staying current  with state mandates,  federal laws,  and federal                                                               
mandates to  lead the school  in a way that  improves educational                                                               
outcomes. He  stressed that the goal  is not just to  survive but                                                               
to  help  students thrive,  noting  that  principals who  receive                                                               
significant investment tend to lead thriving schools.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:28:11 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY stated she is willing  to provide the body of research                                                               
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:28:22 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked for  clarification on national studies                                                               
that report higher administrative  costs than what was presented.                                                               
She also  inquired about the  details of  emergency certification                                                               
and who is teaching under those criteria.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:28:54 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL replied  that  the  data he  referred  to might  be                                                               
outdated, and he would need  to research and provide more current                                                               
information   regarding   national   administrative   costs.   He                                                               
emphasized that  while the financial  aspect is  significant, his                                                               
primary concern  is the impact  on students whenever  a principal                                                               
or superintendent  leaves. This turnover  results in the  loss of                                                               
learning  opportunities  and  the  emotional  investment  in  the                                                               
education system.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GETCHELL  explained that emergency certification  occurs when                                                               
a  district cannot  find  a qualified  candidate  for a  teaching                                                               
position after  posting the  job. Emergency  certification allows                                                               
someone with a relevant degree  but without a teaching license to                                                               
be considered for  the role. The district must  then determine if                                                               
there  is a  suitable candidate  within the  community or  school                                                               
who, despite not being licensed,  can perform the duties with the                                                               
necessary support.  This ensures  that the individual  can manage                                                               
the job's demands, even without full licensure.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  said it  has  been  suggested by  Commissioner                                                               
Bishop that  school districts this  year, without a  Base Student                                                               
Allocation  (BSA)  increase,  have  enough money  to  meet  their                                                               
mission  and educate  the children  of  the state  of Alaska.  He                                                               
asked Mr.  Getchell what  the size of  his district's  deficit is                                                               
going into 2025. He also  inquired about the changes the district                                                               
will make  to educational opportunities if  no additional dollars                                                               
are added to  the formula. Finally, he asked if  the district has                                                               
received  any guidance  from DEED  or  the commissioner's  office                                                               
concerning how to spend money  differently to meet the mission of                                                               
DEED.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:31:30 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL  replied that he has  a 9.9% fund balance,  which is                                                               
about one  month's worth of  expenditures. He mentioned  that his                                                               
board maintains this  practice to cover emergencies,  such as the                                                               
2020  landslide  in  Haines.  However, he  noted  that  with  the                                                               
current budget,  this fund balance  would likely be cut  in half.                                                               
He  emphasized  the  need  to  look  at  other  expenditures  and                                                               
mentioned  the AK  Reads Act,  which requires  a reading  support                                                               
specialist. He has a classroom  teacher assigned to this role but                                                               
would  prefer to  hire a  dedicated interventionist,  which would                                                               
cost   $100,000.  This   cost,   along   with  inflation,   would                                                               
significantly impact the district's budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GETCHELL  stated that  all  districts  are facing  financial                                                               
challenges and  are working hard  to avoid negative  outcomes. He                                                               
stressed the  importance of  the AK  Reads Act  and the  need for                                                               
adequate funding  to comply  with it. He  expressed the  need for                                                               
additional support  beyond the fund  balance. He urged  the panel                                                               
to consider the  impact of no additional funding,  noting that it                                                               
would lead to changes in  programs and difficulties in attracting                                                               
high-quality  educators.  He  urged  members  to  talk  to  their                                                               
superintendents and  ask what is  going to happen if  there isn't                                                               
an   increase   in   funding.   He   stated   his   belief   that                                                               
superintendents  will unanimously  say there  will be  changes to                                                               
programs and  a loss of  high-quality educators who want  to come                                                               
to Alaska but  can't afford it. Mr. Getchell  also mentioned that                                                               
he has  not received  any guidance to  reduce spending  but noted                                                               
that requirements are increasing over time, not decreasing.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:34:57 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   JACKSON   asked    what   the   independent   auditor's                                                               
recommendation was for the fund balance.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:35:16 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GETCHELL  replied that the  auditor will report  the findings                                                               
to the school board. He stated  that the board wants a 10 percent                                                               
fund balance because Haines is  a small community and needs funds                                                               
available for emergencies. He emphasized  that the community must                                                               
manage emergencies  independently. Auditors get concerned  as the                                                               
fund balance  approaches zero. Whenever  the audit  is presented,                                                               
the  first  item  the  board  examines is  the  fund  balance  to                                                               
determine emergency funding. He added  that while he did not know                                                               
the  auditor's  specific  opinion,  he  knows  they  get  gravely                                                               
concerned if they see the fund balance decreasing over time.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:36:38 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  interjected that experts  in the audience  provided a                                                               
lifeline,   noting   that   the   Government   Finance   Officers                                                               
Association recommends  a fund balance  of five to 15  percent of                                                               
operating   revenues  or   one   to  two   months  of   operating                                                               
expenditures, which aligns with Mr. Getchell's testimony.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:37:10 AM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  referred to  slide 12, labeled  "Education is                                                               
Accountable,"  noting  numerous  bullet points  on  auditing  and                                                               
reporting  of  funds.  He   highlighted  the  position  statement                                                               
indicating that  student achievement  is the number  one priority                                                               
and  asked  about  the relationship  between  accountability  and                                                               
achievement. He  mentioned that constituents often  inquire about                                                               
how these  two aspects  align and  how they  can be  certain that                                                               
funds are being used to prioritize student achievement.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:38:04 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.   GETCHELL   said  he   would   speak   on  behalf   of   all                                                               
superintendents,  sharing his  own  story, which  he believes  is                                                               
common  across the  state. He  explained that  his board  has set                                                               
goals within  their strategic plan based  on student achievement,                                                               
which they monitor  through data. For example,  he mentioned that                                                               
they  just  took  the  Northwest  Evaluation  Association  (NWEA)                                                               
Measurers of  Academic Progress  (MAP) exam,  and he  will report                                                               
the mid-year data  to his board. He emphasized  the importance of                                                               
this practice.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOBIN asked for an explanation of MAP.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GETCHELL  replied that  the MAP test  is an  achievement test                                                               
similar  to  the  Iowa  Test  of Basic  Skills  but  updated  and                                                               
nationally  normed, with  data from  about 30  states. This  test                                                               
helps monitor student achievement  and predict performance on the                                                               
AK  STAR test.  He  explained  that his  board  looks at  various                                                               
assessments  for  accountability,  such   as  DIBELS,  the  early                                                               
literacy  screener required  by  the Alaska  Reads Act,  ensuring                                                               
second graders are on grade level before moving to third grade.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GETCHELL mentioned  the  high  turnover of  superintendents,                                                               
comparing  it to  the National  Football League,  which also  has                                                               
high  accountability.  Superintendents face  accountability  from                                                               
school boards,  especially if they are  not meeting expectations.                                                               
He emphasized  accountability for both  brick-and-mortar students                                                               
and those  in correspondence programs.  They work hard  to ensure                                                               
students  in  correspondence  programs  participate  in  literacy                                                               
screeners,  with  varying  participation levels.  He  noted  that                                                               
brick-and-mortar  students have  higher  participation rates  and                                                               
less  opting  out  compared  to  correspondence  students,  which                                                               
impacts reporting and progress tracking.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:41:42 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY added  that  it  is a  great  question  and one  they                                                               
wrestle with  often. She noted  research on the  slide indicating                                                               
that   turnover  impacts   student  achievement.   Superintendent                                                               
turnover  affects  principal  turnover,  which  in  turn  affects                                                               
teacher  turnover. This  instability lowers  student achievement.                                                               
Stabilizing school  districts by retaining high-quality  staff is                                                               
key to improving achievement. Competitive  wages and benefits are                                                               
crucial for attracting and retaining teachers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY   highlighted  the   dire  straits   in  recruitment,                                                               
necessitating the  hiring of many foreign  teachers. For example,                                                               
one  district has  87 foreign  teachers,  and the  superintendent                                                               
from Northwest Arctic had turnover  of 100 teachers. The national                                                               
shortage  of  educators  exacerbates  this crisis.  The  loss  of                                                               
competitiveness  makes  it  difficult   to  attract  teachers  to                                                               
Alaska.  Stabilizing  school  districts  is  essential  to  focus                                                               
efforts on student achievement.                                                                                                 
8:44:00 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX said  he did  not disagree  with the  points                                                               
made so far but believed the  bigger picture was being missed. He                                                               
found it  interesting that the  NFL was used as  an illustration,                                                               
pointing out that the fundamental  difference between the NFL and                                                               
the  state legislature  is that  the NFL  must please  the people                                                               
sending them  money. People  voluntarily give  money to  the NFL,                                                               
whereas  it is  not voluntary  nor  discussed by  the people  the                                                               
legislature represent.  He opined that  this is creating  a long-                                                               
term fiscal problem for Alaska  that applies to school districts,                                                               
healthcare,  roads, energy,  and  other areas.  He  asked if  the                                                               
association had considered this  fundamental problem of mandatory                                                               
funding and how to attract more voluntary funding into Alaska.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:45:23 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL referred  to slide  12, "Constitutional  Duty," and                                                               
emphasized  that  funding  education  is  a  constitutional  duty                                                               
agreed upon  by the  state. He acknowledged  the validity  of the                                                               
question but  reiterated the importance  of this duty as  part of                                                               
the state's identity and  Constitution. Regarding revenue streams                                                               
and  funding education,  he  stated  his belief  that  this is  a                                                               
larger conversation that legislators  are already having. He said                                                               
that  as  an education  advocate,  he  speaks  on behalf  of  the                                                               
children,  driven   by  both  the  Constitution   and  his  moral                                                               
obligation to ensure a better future for all children in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY added that they are  very supportive of the efforts to                                                               
develop  a  long-term  sustainable fiscal  plan  with  additional                                                               
revenues. She noted  that they discuss this  issue frequently and                                                               
are very supportive of the  legislature, which is responsible for                                                               
making those decisions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:46:46 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  mentioned that the Constitution  assigns the                                                               
legislature the  responsibility of  setting up and  maintaining a                                                               
school system  of public  education. He pointed  out that  in the                                                               
Statehood  Act, Alaska  was  admitted  as a  state  based on  the                                                               
recognition   that   resource   development,  not   taxation   of                                                               
residents,  is  the  fundamental  way to  make  the  state  work.                                                               
Without voluntary  incoming money, there  is no funding  to argue                                                               
about. He  stressed the need  to reconcile the  internal conflict                                                               
between those opposing resource  development and the necessity of                                                               
having money to operate the state.  He emphasized the need for an                                                               
alliance to support resource  development against opposition both                                                               
within and outside Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:48:03 AM                                                                                                                    
RICK DORMER,  President, Alaska  Association of  Secondary School                                                               
Principals, Ketchikan, Alaska,  said he is also  the principal of                                                               
Ketchikan  high school  and  provided a  brief  work history.  He                                                               
turned to slide 21 and presented  the names and photos of members                                                               
of the  Alaska Association of  Secondary School  Principals Board                                                               
of  Directors.  He  encouraged  members to  reach  out  to  these                                                               
principals with  questions about  education in Alaska.  He stated                                                               
he  would  share challenges  from  the  viewpoint of  an  Alaskan                                                               
principal.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:49:29 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DORMER  moved to slide  22 and discussed the  following joint                                                               
position statements:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                         SCHOOL SAFETY                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ACSA  advocates  for  safe  and  secure  schools  as  a                                                                    
     catalyst  for  the  prevention   of  school  crime  and                                                                    
     violence. We  emphasize the importance  of preventative                                                                    
     as  well  as  reactionary  measures  to  ensure  school                                                                    
     safety.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ACSA  supports  improving   the  safety,  physical  and                                                                
     mental  well-being of  our  children,  knowing this  is                                                                  
     critical to increasing student achievement.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
              SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL HEALTH                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ACSA  supports targeted  funding to  enable schools  to                                                                    
     recruit,  retain,  and  increase  students'  access  to                                                                    
     school  counselors,   school  social   workers,  school                                                                    
     psychologists,  nurses, and  mental health  specialists                                                                    
     and to provide  additional professional development for                                                                    
     all staff to meet the increasing and diverse needs of                                                                      
     all students.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 4 ACSA Joint Position Statements / *Page 3 ACSA                                                                      
     Joint Position Statements                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:50:13 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DORMER moved  to slide 23 and  presented sobering statistics:                                                               
20  percent   of  students   experience  emotional,   mental,  or                                                               
behavioral disorders, with one in  six youth facing mental health                                                               
issues. In  Alaska, 8,000 teenagers  suffer from  depression, and                                                               
64 percent of  these cases do not receive treatment.  He shared a                                                               
personal story  of his children,  who struggled with  anxiety and                                                               
found  support in  a  teacher they  had  a positive  relationship                                                               
with,  illustrating the  vital role  of  school relationships  in                                                               
managing mental health.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He described  the diverse family  structures and  challenges many                                                               
students face, including homelessness  and couch surfing. Schools                                                               
aim  to stabilize  these students  and partner  with families  to                                                               
ensure  they are  college  or career  ready  upon graduation.  He                                                               
emphasized the  unprecedented scope of mental  health needs among                                                               
students and adults in the community.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:51:33 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DORMER moved  to slides  24-27 and  showed a  map indicating                                                               
that every  state has experienced school  shootings, underscoring                                                               
the  importance   of  mental  health  supports   and  Social  and                                                               
Emotional Learning  (SEL) programs in preventing  such incidents.                                                               
He noted that many school  shooters have been victims of violence                                                               
or have low  social-emotional health. He highlighted  the lack of                                                               
resources and  training to address these  issues properly, noting                                                               
that public schools average one  counselor for every 408 students                                                               
and one school  psychologist for every 1,127  students, with only                                                               
42% of schools offering mental health treatment services.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He stressed the  need for more mental health  supports and strong                                                               
SEL programs  to ensure safety and  improve educational outcomes.                                                               
He  concluded  by  sharing   state-specific  facts  about  mental                                                               
health, urging  everyone to consider these  staggering statistics                                                               
and the critical need for mental health services in schools.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOMER  shared a  recent story  about a  student in  a village                                                               
who, after school, would leave  their unsafe home environment and                                                               
sleep underneath  the school. This harrowing  portrait highlights                                                               
how schools  can be a  safe haven and  place of comfort  for some                                                               
students. He  noted that Alaska  has the highest suicide  rate in                                                               
the nation. Suicide affects the  entire community, sometimes even                                                               
reaching  beyond it.  For instance,  a recent  suicide in  nearby                                                               
Metlakatla  impacted the  entire Southeast  region. He  expressed                                                               
that  virtually  all  of  Alaska is  affected  by  mental  health                                                               
issues, emphasizing that students and their families need help.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:54:48 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DORMER  moved to slide  28 and discussed  educator retention.                                                               
He   highlighted  a   crucial   position  statement:   preparing,                                                               
attracting,  and  retaining  qualified educators  in  Alaska.  He                                                               
referenced a recent  survey by the governor's  task force, noting                                                               
that  the top  two issues  related  to retention  are salary  and                                                               
benefits.  Alaska  was  once   a  destination  for  professionals                                                               
seeking   adventure,   strong   employment   opportunities,   and                                                               
excellent benefits.  Educators often  moved to Alaska  with their                                                               
families,  as was  his experience  when he  moved from  Oregon 15                                                               
years ago, having a wonderful experience since then.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                   PREPARING, ATTRACTING AND                                                                                  
                 RETAINING QUALIFIED EDUCATORS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Recruiting  and  retaining highly  effective  educators                                                                    
     and   leaders  is   imperative   to  increase   student                                                                    
     achievement  and eliminate  academic disparity  for all                                                                    
     of Alaska's students.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     According  to  a survey  done  by  the Governor's  Task                                                                    
     Force  on Teacher  Retention and  Recruitment, of  over                                                                    
     3700 Alaskan educators, 2 of  the top issues related to                                                                    
     retention status are: Salary and Benefits                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 6 ACSA Joint Position Statements                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:55:30 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DORMER  moved to slides  29-30 and  said the table  shows the                                                               
top ten factors  that Alaska educators consider  when deciding on                                                               
jobs  or  staying  in  their  current  positions.  These  factors                                                               
include sustainable  funding, good  retirement and  health plans,                                                               
and feeling safe and connected  at their workplace. He noted that                                                               
Alaska is  losing qualified educators  every year.  He emphasized                                                               
the  importance  of  retaining quality  educators,  warning  that                                                               
without them, the future of Alaska's school system is at risk.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOMER shared  personal examples of the impact  of this issue.                                                               
Recently,   the   Ketchikan   School    District   lost   a   top                                                               
administrator, a  high school counselor, and  another experienced                                                               
administrator to  other states. He highlighted  that this problem                                                               
is not  unique to Ketchikan  but is prevalent across  Alaska. The                                                               
applicant pool for a high  school science teacher position in his                                                               
school  mostly consisted  of candidates  from outside  the United                                                               
States,  a  stark  change  from  five  years  ago.  Many  Alaskan                                                               
administrators hold  additional licenses in other  states, making                                                               
their departure easier.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOMER stressed  the urgent need to  retain quality educators,                                                               
citing  research  from  the  Wallace  Foundation  that  a  strong                                                               
administrator has  a significant  impact on  student achievement.                                                               
The retention of school leaders is  critical, as it can take five                                                               
years for a leader to make  a meaningful difference, yet only one                                                               
in  four  principals stay  in  their  position longer  than  five                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:59:16 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DORMER  moved to slides  31-33 and emphasized  the importance                                                               
of  fixing  retention  issues to  ensure  quality  education.  He                                                               
mentioned  various  school  options,  such  as  charter  schools,                                                               
parochial  schools, magnet  schools, and  correspondence schools,                                                               
but  noted that  without  addressing  personnel retention,  these                                                               
options won't have quality educators  to staff them. He expressed                                                               
excitement  about being  part of  a collaborative  with 11  other                                                               
states focusing on school leadership  through a shared leadership                                                               
framework.  They  have  also  started   a  new  aspiring  leaders                                                               
program,  thanks to  funding from  DEED, to  support early-career                                                               
principals.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He concluded  by discussing the  Alaska State  Leadership Academy                                                               
(ASLA)  program,  which  provides  statewide  support  and  high-                                                               
quality  professional development.  He highlighted  the program's                                                               
growth, with  the addition of  Alaska's two largest  districts in                                                               
2024.  Supporting  leadership  is   a  significant  strategy  for                                                               
improving schools  in the  state. He wrapped  up by  sharing data                                                               
from the  program's annual report,  showing its  positive impact,                                                               
and  expressed   enthusiasm  for  continuing  this   program  and                                                               
supporting educational leaders.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOMER  thanked  the  legislators   and  introduced  a  video                                                               
featuring  Caitlin Stasis,  who summarized  the discussed  points                                                               
and exemplified the importance of their efforts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:48 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  said  she  was  familiar  with  school                                                               
psychologists  as individuals  who administer  tests to  students                                                               
and asked  for more  information about  their role  in addressing                                                               
the mental health needs of  students. She also requested insights                                                               
on the mental health of educators.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:29 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOMER replied that in  Southeast Alaska, school psychologists                                                               
typically   travel   between    schools,   which   limits   their                                                               
availability.  Their primary  role  is to  help identify  student                                                               
needs and conduct testing. In  Petersburg and Ketchikan, they had                                                               
one  counselor  for  both  middle  and  high  schools,  who  also                                                               
partnered  with  local  health  agencies  because  one  counselor                                                               
couldn't meet all the needs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOMER said  counselors are expected to  provide both academic                                                               
and social-emotional support to  ensure students are college- and                                                               
career-ready and feel secure.  Finding counselors is challenging,                                                               
so partnerships  with local mental  health agencies  are crucial.                                                               
Even with these partnerships, places  like Petersburg struggle to                                                               
provide  enough  counselors,  utilizing  community  resources  to                                                               
bridge the gap.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He noted  that Ketchikan secured  a grant, allowing them  to hire                                                               
two  additional counselors  and  two social  workers, creating  a                                                               
supportive  environment  for  students. These  professionals  are                                                               
busy   all  day,   addressing  serious   issues  beyond   typical                                                               
adolescent   concerns.   To   support   counselors,   Ketchikan's                                                               
superintendent has  arranged for  counselors for  the counselors,                                                               
acknowledging the emotional toll of their work.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOMER  stated  that the  situation  highlights  the  layered                                                               
approach  necessary  for  effective   mental  health  support  in                                                               
schools.  However, grant  funding is  temporary, and  efforts are                                                               
ongoing to  stabilize support systems  for students,  as teaching                                                               
academic   subjects  becomes   challenging  when   students  face                                                               
significant personal issues.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:05:53 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT  REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSHCOOT  expressed                                                               
concern  about   staff  mental  health,   particularly  secondary                                                               
trauma.  She  noted that  the  counselors  do both  academic  and                                                               
mental health  counseling and asked  for data on the  ratios. She                                                               
inquired if the  social workers are functioning  as mental health                                                               
counselors,  allowing academic  counselors to  focus on  academic                                                               
counseling, and asked what numbers  they should be looking at for                                                               
mental health and academic support staff.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:06:23 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOMER replied that he  didn't have specific statistics on the                                                               
need  for  mental health  support,  but  he emphasized  that  the                                                               
current  resources  are  insufficient. In  Ketchikan,  they  have                                                               
doubled their support by adding  two social workers, resulting in                                                               
two  counselors  handling   both  academic  and  social-emotional                                                               
needs,  and  two  social  workers  focusing  almost  entirely  on                                                               
social-emotional  needs. Despite  this increase,  all four  staff                                                               
members are constantly busy.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOMER said  in  Petersburg, the  superintendent mentioned  a                                                               
shortage  of mental  health support  and multiple  staff absences                                                               
due  to mental  health needs.  He  noted that  while the  primary                                                               
focus has been  on supporting students, they  should also address                                                               
mental health supports for staff.  He acknowledged the importance                                                               
of this issue but admitted it might have been overlooked.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOMER stated  that Ketchikan's current ratio  exceeds the one                                                               
counselor per 400 students guideline  but stressed that even this                                                               
isn't  sufficient. He  committed to  working with  Dr. Parady  to                                                               
gather more  data on  the necessary  numbers for  adequate mental                                                               
health and academic support staff.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:07:34 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN announced Representative Schrage joined the meeting.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:07:38 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY   added  that  Doug   Gray  from  the   Alaska  Staff                                                               
Development  Network  will   discuss  further  efforts  regarding                                                               
trauma support.  She mentioned that  for the past 13  years, they                                                               
have  organized the  largest education  conference in  the state,                                                               
which  includes trauma-informed  and  trauma-engaged support  for                                                               
staff. This  training has  been in high  demand and  continues to                                                               
grow  each  year. She  emphasized  that  this basic  training  is                                                               
essential for educators to support their students effectively.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:08:18 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX noted that at  the state level, mental health                                                               
and  family  needs  are  being  addressed  through  organizations                                                               
within  the Department  of Health  and the  Department of  Family                                                               
Services.   He  acknowledged   that  schools   are  significantly                                                               
involved   in  this   effort  and   asked  if   there  has   been                                                               
communication with  these departments  to potentially  break down                                                               
barriers.  He  suggested that  in  the  short term,  reallocating                                                               
funds  from  these  agencies  to schools  might  be  a  solution,                                                               
although he  recognized the complexity  of the issue in  the long                                                               
term. He  inquired if there  had been any discussions  with those                                                               
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:08 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOMER replied that he has  not been in communication with the                                                               
Department of Health  and the Department of  Family Services, and                                                               
he  is unsure  if  their superintendent  has.  He mentioned  that                                                               
during his time  in Petersburg and Ketchikan,  they regularly met                                                               
with  hospital  administrators  to  discuss  available  supports.                                                               
Petersburg  had   a  Mental  Health  Coalition,   with  which  he                                                               
maintained a positive relationship. He  noted that while they use                                                               
Memorandums  of Agreement  (MOAs) for  these partnerships,  he is                                                               
not familiar with any conversations  happening at the state level                                                               
with those departments.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY added  that many  schools partner  with local  health                                                               
clinics  or  available  community resources  to  form  coalitions                                                               
addressing student needs.  She noted that this is  a common model                                                               
but acknowledged that there is always more that can be done.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:10:06 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN asked  about the  connection between  student mental                                                               
health and  assessments. She noted  that discussions  often focus                                                               
on  student  achievements  and   opportunities  for  success  and                                                               
inquired about the correlation between  these factors and student                                                               
mental health.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:10:28 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOMER replied that they use  assessments like the MAP test by                                                               
the  Northwest  Evaluation   Association  (NWEA)  from  Portland,                                                               
Oregon.   This  third-party   assessment   helps  gauge   student                                                               
performance by  providing a comparative analysis.  While students                                                               
may  not  be excited  about  assessments,  these evaluations  are                                                               
impactful for understanding student  progress. He emphasized that                                                               
formative  assessments,  conducted  by   teachers  daily  in  the                                                               
classroom, are particularly  effective. These assessments involve                                                               
direct interaction  with students,  allowing them  to demonstrate                                                               
their learning and skills.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.   DOMER   highlighted   the  importance   of   the   positive                                                               
relationship   between  students   and  caring   educators.  This                                                               
relationship,   along   with   hands-on   activities   and   peer                                                               
collaboration, leads  to higher  attendance rates and  success in                                                               
the  classroom.  He  acknowledged   the  lack  of  specific  data                                                               
correlating student  mental health with academic  achievement but                                                               
expressed interest  in exploring  this further to  share insights                                                               
with staff.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:11:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  TOBIN shared  that a  colleague  mentioned the  assessment                                                               
data for students  in Wrangell might be lower  this year, raising                                                               
concerns about the impact of trauma on student performance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:11:59 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  added that they  will look  for specific data  on the                                                               
impact of trauma  on assessment results and noted  that Doug Gray                                                               
might address this issue during his testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:14 AM                                                                                                                    
JOSH  GILL, President,  Alaska Association  of Elementary  School                                                               
Principals,   Bethel,  Alaska,   Co-presented   State  of   PK-12                                                               
Education in Alaska moved to  slide 34 and introduced himself and                                                               
stated  he  is  also  the principal  of  Ayaprun  Elitnaurvik,  a                                                               
charter  school  in  the Lower  Kuskokwim  School  District.  The                                                               
district is about  the size of West Virginia. There  are no roads                                                               
connecting  the schools  in  the delta,  but  the district  works                                                               
closely to do what is best for its students.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:17 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL moved to slide  35 and introduced the Alaska Association                                                               
of  Elementary  School  Principals  (AAESP)  board,  which  is  a                                                               
diverse group that represents students  from all areas of Alaska.                                                               
The mission of AAESP is to  support school leaders in their work,                                                               
strengthen    Alaska   communities,    and   provide    excellent                                                               
opportunities for all students.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:13:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL  moved to  slide 36 and  highlighted the  joint position                                                               
statement for early childhood education:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                   EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ACSA supports the definition of elementary education                                                                       
     to include universal Pre-K, thus ensuring equitable                                                                        
     access to fully funded, sustainable, birth to age five                                                                     
     learning programs and nutrition services.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The developmental differences of 3 and 4 year old pre-                                                                     
     K children require developmentally appropriate                                                                             
     instructional materials and playground equipment, all                                                                      
     of which depends on sufficient funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 8 ACSA Joint Position Statements                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILL  stated that many people  on the board have  worked very                                                               
hard  on  the  Alaska  Reads  Act.  Most  children  should  enter                                                               
kindergarten with  a 5,000  - 6,000-word  vocabulary, but  in his                                                               
region,  students enter  kindergarten with  a 2,500  - 3,500-word                                                               
vocabulary. He  asserted that Alaska  needs to  address readiness                                                               
for kindergarten.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:14:42 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL  moved to slide  37 and  provided statistics on  at risk                                                               
children  who  don't  receive   a  high-quality  early  childhood                                                               
education:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
25 percent more likely to drop out of school                                                                                    
40 percent more likely to become a teen parent                                                                                  
50 percent more likely to be placed in special education                                                                        
60 percent more likely to never attend college                                                                                  
70 percent more likely to be arrested for a violent crime                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILL asked members to think  about the additional cost to the                                                               
state when children do not  receive high quality early education.                                                               
He opined  that Alaska needs universal  early childhood education                                                               
for students. Investing in kids saves the state money.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:15:35 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL moved to slide 38 and  said the data is clear that early                                                               
childhood programs  have a monetary value  in Alaskan communities                                                               
in  the long  term and  prepare children  socially, academically,                                                               
physically and  emotionally to  enter kindergarten.  He discussed                                                               
the  success  of   a  grant  program  that  he   and  Paul  Sugar                                                               
implemented at  Mikelnguut Elitnaurviat, a K-2  grade school, and                                                               
the success low-income students  experienced. He stated that with                                                               
the right tools the trajectory of students can change.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:04 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GILL  moved  to  slides  39 -  41  discussed  another  joint                                                               
position statement concerning bandwidth in Alaska:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           INCREASING BANDWIDTH IN UNDERSERVED AREAS                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
       ACSA supports continuing the Broadband Assistance                                                                        
     Grant (BAG) to ensure all schools are able to access a                                                                     
        minimum speed of 100 megabits per second, which                                                                         
     leverages federal E-Rate funds up to a 9:1 match,                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        We also support efforts to continue to increase                                                                         
      download speed to meet national recommendations of 1                                                                      
     gigabit per second, per student.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     It is critical to  recognize the ongoing and increasing                                                                  
     need for  Alaska's students, educators, and  leaders to                                                                  
     have equitable access to the  digital world both inside                                                                  
     and outside of the school environment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 5 ACSA Joint Position Statements                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           INCREASING BANDWIDTH IN UNDERSERVED AREAS                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
        • 44 percent of Alaska communities are unserved                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Almost 50 percent of Alaska's communities are                                                                         
          unserved or underserved                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • Rural    Alaskan    students   are    particularly                                                                    
          vulnerable to digital inequities                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           INCREASING BANDWIDTH IN UNDERSERVED AREAS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Alaska currently ranks 51st among states and the                                                                      
          District of Columbia in BroadbandNow's annual                                                                         
          rankings of internet coverage, speed, and                                                                             
          availability.                                                                                                         
        • Inequitable access to electronic devices and                                                                          
          reliable internet has a negative impact on                                                                            
          opportunity and achievement for Alaskan students.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:17:32 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.   GILL  said   geographic  location   should  not   determine                                                               
bandwidth. Bush Alaska operates with  very low bandwidth. Much of                                                               
rural  Alaska is  artificially capped  at 25  mbps. The  national                                                               
average is 322 mbps. In  addition to better connectivity students                                                               
need  more  professional  development, which  often  is  provided                                                               
virtually  through  the internet.  However,  it  is difficult  to                                                               
school  because  students  use the  bandwidth  during  and  after                                                               
school. Due  to limitations at  LKSD high school students  do not                                                               
always have access to highly  qualified certified teachers in the                                                               
classroom and instead have a virtual  teacher with an aide in the                                                               
classroom.  When high  school students  are instructed  virtually                                                               
the other students  in school must stay off  the internet because                                                               
there  is not  enough  bandwidth  to share.  Also,  there is  not                                                               
enough bandwidth for  students to take standardized  tests at the                                                               
same time  and during testing,  no other students can  access the                                                               
internet. He stressed the importance  of the Broadband Assistance                                                               
Grant (BAG) and infrastructure grants.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL moved to slide  42 and discussed data accountability for                                                               
school leaders:                                                                                                                 
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • School Safety                                                                                                         
        • Teacher and Principal Evaluations                                                                                     
        • Accreditation Process                                                                                                 
        • Title I Data                                                                                                          
        • Alaska Reads Act Implementation                                                                                       
        • Graduation Rates                                                                                                      
        • Attendance                                                                                                            
        • DEED School Report Card                                                                                               
        • Facility Management                                                                                                   
        • Program Budgets                                                                                                       
        • Staff Retention                                                                                                       
        • Program Audits                                                                                                        
        • Special Ed/IEP Audits                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:42 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL moved to slide  42 and discussed data accountability for                                                               
school leaders:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                 School Leaders are Accountable                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
        • School Safety                                                                                                         
        • Teacher and Principal Evaluations                                                                                     
        • Accreditation Process                                                                                                 
        • Title I Data                                                                                                          
        • Alaska Reads Act Implementation                                                                                       
        • Graduation Rates                                                                                                      
        • Attendance                                                                                                            
        • DEED School Report Card                                                                                               
        • Facility Management                                                                                                   
        • Program Budgets                                                                                                       
        • Staff Retention                                                                                                       
        • Program Audits                                                                                                        
        • Special Ed/IEP Audits                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:22:04 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GILL moved  to slide 43 and  stated that in 2015  there was a                                                               
fire at  Ayaprun Elitnaurvik and  invited members to  the opening                                                               
of the new  school this fall. The community is  excited to have a                                                               
gym and  aspects that  represent the  culture. He  mentioned some                                                               
school options  in Alaska and  said charter schools have  a great                                                               
impact on communities and education in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:24:36 AM                                                                                                                    
HEATHER  HEINEKEN,   President,  Alaska  Association   of  School                                                               
Business Officials, Fairbanks, Alaska,  Co-presented State of PK-                                                               
12 Education in Alaska, moved  to slide 44 and introduced herself                                                               
and  stated she  is also  the chief  financial officer  for Yukon                                                               
Koyukuk School  District. She stated that  the Alaska Association                                                               
of School  Business Officials (ALASBO) consists  of board members                                                               
and professionals  from districts  across the state.  In addition                                                               
to business managers, the  membership includes professionals from                                                               
human  resources,  instructional  and  informational  technology,                                                               
facilities, and  other support divisions.  The mission  of ALASBO                                                               
is to promote the highest standard in school business practices.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEINEKEN  highlighted  the  financial  challenges  faced  by                                                               
Alaska  school  districts  statewide, emphasizing  a  significant                                                               
financial shortfall.  Over the weekend, educational  leaders from                                                               
across the  state participated in  the ACSA fly-in  and discussed                                                               
similar  challenges  for  different   reasons,  all  relating  to                                                               
financial  shortfall.  She  said  that  at  the  House  Education                                                               
Committee  meeting on  Friday, the  Department  of Education  and                                                               
Early Development  (DEED) provided  an in-depth look  into school                                                               
funding,  highlighting state  aid generated  by the  Base Student                                                               
Allocation  (BSA), federal  funds, and  local contributions.  The                                                               
federal  funds discussed  included COVID  funding, which  expires                                                               
this  year with  no plan  to  fill the  gap, referred  to as  the                                                               
fiscal cliff.  These funds have supported  mental health, social-                                                               
emotional  support, and  learning loss  mitigation over  the past                                                               
five years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEINEKEN  detailed other federal  funds such as Title  I, II,                                                               
III, IV, Title VI-B Section  619, Carl Perkins, and other smaller                                                               
funds totaling  about $245 million.  These funds  are distributed                                                               
through an application  process and targeted at  students such as                                                               
those in  migrant education or  special education. She  said that                                                               
in  her district,  only 300  of  the 3,300  students qualify  for                                                               
these  specialized  funds.  Districts must  comply  with  federal                                                               
regulations,   reporting,   and  compliance   requirements   when                                                               
accepting these  funds. Except  for COVID  funds, there  are also                                                               
restrictions  on supplanting,  which means  districts cannot  use                                                               
these funds  for general expenses  like heating,  electricity, or                                                               
property insurance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:27:34 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. HEINEKEN moved to slide  46, an overview of education funding                                                               
in  the  form   of  a  pie  graph  for  FY   24  school  district                                                               
expenditures by category. She reviewed  the distribution of state                                                               
aid by function  as defined by the State of  Alaska Department of                                                               
Education   Uniform  Chart   of  Accounts.   The  functions   are                                                               
characterized by instruction and non-instruction:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Non-Instruction = 26 percent                                                                                                
Community services 0 percent                                                                                                    
Debt Service 0 percent                                                                                                          
Student Activities 1 percent                                                                                                    
Operations and maintenance 15 percent                                                                                           
District administrative support 5 percent                                                                                       
District Administration 2 percent                                                                                               
School Administrative support 3 percent                                                                                         
School Administration 4 percent                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Instruction = 74 percent                                                                                                    
Support Services Instruction 9 percent                                                                                          
Support Services Students 4 percent                                                                                             
Special Education support 4 percent                                                                                             
Special Education Instruction 13 percent                                                                                        
Instruction 40 percent                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FY 24 School District Funding by Payor                                                                                      
State 67 percent                                                                                                                
Local Contribution 26 percent                                                                                                   
Other 2 percent                                                                                                                 
Federal 5 percent                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:27:48 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HEINEKEN   moved  to  slide   47  and   named  instructional                                                               
functions:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Instructional (Functions 100-400) = 74 percent                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     • Instruction                                                                                                              
     • Special Education Instruction                                                                                            
     • Special Education Support                                                                                                
     • Support Services  Student                                                                                                
     • Support Services  Instruction                                                                                            
     • School Administration (Principals)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEED Uniform Chart of Accounts:                                                                                            
     https://education.alaska.gov/publications/chart_of_acc                                                                     
     ounts.pdf                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:28:09 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HEINEKEN  moved  to slide  48  and  named  non-instructional                                                               
functions:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Non-Instructional (Functions 450-780) = 26 percent                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • School Admin Support                                                                                                     
     • District Administration                                                                                                  
     • District Admin Support                                                                                                   
     • Operations & Maintenance  15%                                                                                            
     • Student Activities  1%                                                                                                   
     • Community Services                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEED Uniform Chart of Accounts:                                                                                            
     https://education.alaska.gov/publications/chart_of_acc                                                                     
     ounts.pdf                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEINEKEN said non-instructional  functions, which comprise 26                                                               
percent of  expenditures, include  15 percent for  operations and                                                               
maintenance, covering costs like  fuel, electricity, and property                                                               
insurance,  and  keeping  schools  safe  and  clean.  Other  non-                                                               
instructional categories  include student activities,  school and                                                               
district   administration,  human   resources,  business   office                                                               
operations,    instructional   and    informational   technology.                                                               
Approximately  2   percent  is  district   administration,  which                                                               
includes  the   Office  of  the   Superintendent  and   Board  of                                                               
Education.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:50 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. HEINEKEN moved to slide 49  and provided a list of ways there                                                               
is accountability in education:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                    Education is Accountable                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • DEED Approved Budgets Publicly Published                                                                                   
   • Annual Financial Audits                                                                                                    
   • GEER/ESSER Reporting Requirements through DEED for                                                                         
     COVID Expenditures                                                                                                         
   • TRS/PRS Audits                                                                                                             
   • Title I comparability reporting                                                                                            
   • Program Audits                                                                                                             
   • Fund Balance Reporting                                                                                                     
   • Per Pupil Allocation                                                                                                       
   • Grant funding Monitoring  SPED, Title I, Competitive                                                                       
     Awards                                                                                                                     
   • NSLP/Food Service Annual Audit                                                                                             
   • Special Award Audits as Required by Funding Agency                                                                         
   • DEED Quarterly Reimbursement Reports                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEINEKEN  emphasized the  accountability of  school districts                                                               
stating  each district  submits  numerous reports  and audits  to                                                               
state and  federal agencies. Continued  funding often  depends on                                                               
the completion and submission of the reports.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:29:21 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. HEINEKEN moved  to slide 50 and said many  of the reports are                                                               
available  on  DEED's  website or  directly  on  school  district                                                               
websites, with  reporting occurring year-round to  ensure ongoing                                                               
monitoring of a district's financial welfare:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:29:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE moved  to slide  [45]  highlighting a  bullet                                                               
point  underneath "Fiscal  Cliff"  which states  that the  Alaska                                                               
Council of School Administrators  (ACSA) opposes cost shifting of                                                               
state  expenditure  responsibilities  to  local  governments.  He                                                               
requested  further   explanation  on  this  point.   He  said  in                                                               
reviewing the slides  as a whole, what thoughts are  there on the                                                               
current budget  situation, noting that the  governor's budget had                                                               
a billion-dollar shortfall.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIGE  outlined three  potential options  to increase                                                               
school  funding:  budget  cuts  in other  areas,  Permanent  Fund                                                               
Dividend  (PFD) reduction,  or generating  revenue through  a new                                                               
tax. He  noted that  opposing cost  shifting would  prevent local                                                               
governments from increasing property taxes.  He asked if the ACSA                                                               
has  taken a  position  on prioritizing  funding and  identifying                                                               
potential sources.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:12 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  opined that this specific  policy statement primarily                                                               
concerns major  maintenance and  capital construction.  She noted                                                               
that  as  those  budgets  have significantly  shrunk  over  time,                                                               
facilities, which  are largely  40 to 60  years old,  face issues                                                               
like leaky  roofs and other  necessary maintenance.  Often, these                                                               
costs  are shifted  to the  local  municipality. She  highlighted                                                               
that as  funding has remained  flat, cost shifting  has occurred.                                                               
Regarding  caps or  allowing districts  to  contribute more,  she                                                               
stated that this is a different context.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:32:28 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX said the function  that the Alaska Council of                                                               
School  Administrators  (ACSA) performs  involves  administrative                                                               
costs, which  are often the  subject of complaints.  He clarified                                                               
that  he  did  not  intend  to  criticize  but  acknowledged  the                                                               
concern.  He  noted  that a  presenter  mentioned  administrative                                                               
costs averaged 4  percent across the state and asked  if there is                                                               
any information on administrative  costs per district rather than                                                               
a statewide average.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:33:16 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HEINEKEN  replied that  slide  46  presented earlier  listed                                                               
administrative costs  under the non-instructional  functions. She                                                               
explained that  the five  districts presented  had administrative                                                               
costs ranging between  0.4 and 1.4 percent,  specifically for the                                                               
Superintendent and  the Board of Education  offices. However, the                                                               
overall non-instructional function comprises  26 percent, with 15                                                               
percent dedicated  to running the  buildings. She noted  that the                                                               
definition of  administration depends on  how it is  defined, but                                                               
school  districts follow  the State  of Alaska  Uniform Chart  of                                                               
Accounts. When discussing non-instructional  costs, if equated to                                                               
administration, it amounts to about  26 percent, broken down into                                                               
various functions. For example,  student activities account for 1                                                               
percent of  that total, which  includes expenses  like basketball                                                               
trips. Though not spent in  the classroom, these activities still                                                               
impact students.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:34:39 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if  the information  on administrative                                                               
costs is  available per district.  He stated that  he understands                                                               
smaller rural  schools have higher  costs but would like  to have                                                               
the information per district if it is available.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:35:09 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HEINEKEN  replied that  the  numbers  are available,  either                                                               
through  individual  audits  that   are  publicly  accessible  or                                                               
potentially published  by the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development  (DEED).  She stated  she  would  provide a  resource                                                               
where the numbers are available.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:35:35 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT inquired  about  the  impact of  recent                                                               
inflation  on   fixed  costs  for  the   districts,  specifically                                                               
regarding  facility insurance,  health  insurance, energy  costs,                                                               
and  other  expenses  that  cannot  be  negotiated,  avoided,  or                                                               
bargained away.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:36:18 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. HEINEKEN  replied that she  has specific numbers,  though not                                                               
immediately at the  table. She noted that  electricity, fuel, and                                                               
property  insurance costs  have  increased  significantly in  her                                                               
district over the last two  years, with increases ranging from 20                                                               
percent  to 60  percent. She  mentioned she  has 10  rural school                                                               
districts around the interior of  Alaska. She said statewide, she                                                               
does not have  exact figures, acknowledging that  the severity of                                                               
the increase may vary among  districts. She stated they have been                                                               
working  on gathering  this information  and  can provide  actual                                                               
figures upon request.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY added  an example  from  President Stevens'  district                                                               
where last  week the superintendent  received a  health insurance                                                               
bill  for the  year, showing  another 20  percent increase.  This                                                               
increase  adds an  additional million  dollars to  the district's                                                               
deficit as  the superintendent tries  to finalize  the district's                                                               
budget this  year. She  noted that this  is happening  across the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:37:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   TOBIN  sought   information  about   the  retention   and                                                               
recruitment of business officials. She  noted there has been some                                                               
attrition  in  offices and  asked  if  there has  been  attrition                                                               
within  ALASBO  membership  over  the last  10  years.  She  also                                                               
inquired about  recruitment and  retention of  business officials                                                               
for school districts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:38:05 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. HEINEKEN replied that a  lot of business officials are either                                                               
retiring or  leaving the industry.  Many offices have one  or two                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:38:28 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:03 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEINEKEN Ms.  Heineken said  it is  a constant  challenge to                                                               
recruit and replace  staff, and often there aren't  people in the                                                               
local communities available to fulfill  the roles. Many districts                                                               
are starting to contract with  outside services, even outside the                                                               
state of Alaska.  She mentioned that the  ALASBO organization has                                                               
created  a three-year  program called  the  New Business  Manager                                                               
Institute  to   support  new  business  managers.   This  program                                                               
includes  a  mentorship   component  where  participants  undergo                                                               
course training to  learn necessary skills. The hope  is that, by                                                               
the end of the program,  participants remain in the field, either                                                               
as  business managers  or in  school district  business, as  this                                                               
role is becoming a lost art.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:40:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:40:26 AM                                                                                                                    
DOUG  GRAY,   Director,  Profession  Development,   Alaska  Staff                                                               
Development  Network, Anchorage,  Alaska, moved  to slides  51 52                                                               
and  introduced   himself.  He  stated  that   the  Alaska  Staff                                                               
Development  Network (ASDN)  operates under  the umbrella  of the                                                               
Alaska  Council  of  School Administrators.  ASDN  is  a  private                                                               
nonprofit  small business  organization that  has been  providing                                                               
high-quality  professional development  for almost  40 years.  He                                                               
shared a  few highlights of the  work done through ASDN.  He drew                                                               
attention  to  the catalog  included  in  the committee  members'                                                               
packets, which  lists the materials and  professional development                                                               
areas they offer.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRAY  explained  that  ASDN  provides  educational  webinars                                                               
offering professional development  opportunities that support the                                                               
state's  initiatives  with research-based  strategies,  including                                                               
feedback,  teacher   clarity,  and  collective   efficacy.  These                                                               
webinars have reached thousands of educators throughout Alaska.                                                                 
This  spring, ASDN  is offering  a CHAMPS  workshop, focusing  on                                                               
building  strong positive  classroom management  strategies. This                                                               
workshop resulted  from requests from districts  seeking to train                                                               
teachers who  are new  to Alaska,  new to  education, and  new to                                                               
America.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRAY noted  that ASDN strives to keep up  with current trends                                                               
impacting education. This  month, they are offering  a webinar on                                                               
AI in education, highlighting the  relevance of AI in classrooms.                                                               
Mr. Gray  mentioned ChatGPT and  offered to  share a link  to the                                                               
webinar if anyone is interested.  He noted that their first class                                                               
on Wednesday  was eye-opening, demonstrating  how AI  is becoming                                                               
very relevant  in schools  today. In  addition to  webinars, ASDN                                                               
supports many  asynchronous courses, allowing educators  to build                                                               
their  skills  while  earning   credit  and  recertification.  He                                                               
emphasized  that ASDN  constantly reviews  its course  library to                                                               
ensure it offers meaningful content to educators.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:42:43 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRAY  Mr. Gray said that  each year ASDN puts  on the largest                                                               
educational conference in the state.  The Multi-Tiered Systems of                                                               
Support conference  brings up  national researchers  and speakers                                                               
to reach educators across the state.  This year, ASDN was able to                                                               
bring some of the leading  national and international educational                                                               
researchers.  Dr.  John  Hattie,   one  of  the  top  researchers                                                               
recognized worldwide  for his work  on best practices  to support                                                               
student learning, was among the  speakers. This year's conference                                                               
had over 1,200 participants from  all over Alaska. A new offering                                                               
at  the  conference  was  focused  on  trauma-engaged  practices.                                                               
Initially expecting  around 200 registrants, they  were surprised                                                               
by  over  400 people  expressing  interest.  Topics included  how                                                               
mental health  impacts assessment,  highlighting the  strong need                                                               
for such discussions among educators.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:43:59 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRAY moved to  slide 54 and said he was  also very excited to                                                               
share  that  ASDN  was  able to  offer  its  first  DEED-approved                                                               
science  of reading  course,  which meets  the  Alaska Reads  Act                                                               
requirements for  K-3rd grade educators.  He mentioned  that ASDN                                                               
developed this course with two  of their reading experts who have                                                               
been working  with ASDN for many  years. ASDN staff were  able to                                                               
enroll over 70 educators in their first cohort.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:44:26 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRAY  moved to slide  55 and said ASDN  is now in  its second                                                               
year  of a  project with  the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development  (DEED), supporting  18 school  districts by  working                                                               
with nationally recognized coaches  to enhance their multi-tiered                                                               
systems of support. This initiative  aligns with the Alaska Reads                                                               
Act.  He  noted  that these  districts  independently  reexamined                                                               
their  practices to  better meet  the needs  of all  learners. He                                                               
mentioned ASDN's  close collaboration  with the state  on various                                                               
projects,  including  support  from  DEED  for  their  work  with                                                               
Code.org to bring computer science into schools.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRAY emphasized  ASDN's commitment  to  seeking feedback  to                                                               
continually meet the  needs of educators and  ensure the delivery                                                               
of high-quality professional development in Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:45:13 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY added that ASDN  serves all educators, but its primary                                                               
audience is teachers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:58 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked how ASDN handles  the conflict between                                                               
local control  and central control.  For instance, how  does ASDN                                                               
resolve  the  differences in  needs  between  rural and  railbelt                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:46:37 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRAY replied  that ASDN advertises statewide  and ensures the                                                               
courses it offers are relevant  to both rural and urban settings.                                                               
He  noted that  webinars are  often  linked to  grants that  work                                                               
directly  with  rural  school  districts.   ASDN  strives  to  be                                                               
responsive  to  what  school  districts   ask  them  to  provide,                                                               
emphasizing that it is a collaborative effort.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:47:20 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY added  that need assessments are  conducted across the                                                               
state to  gather feedback from  districts about their  needs. She                                                               
opined that  ASDN is aware  of best practices and  providers. She                                                               
noted  that   districts  often  cannot   afford  to   travel  for                                                               
professional  development opportunities,  making ASDN's  delivery                                                               
methods even more  critical. She emphasized that  ASDN focuses on                                                               
quality instruction,  which transcends  rural, remote,  and urban                                                               
settings. The science of reading class  is an example of a course                                                               
that was created at the request of teachers statewide.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gray suggested looking through  the ASDN catalog of materials                                                               
or watching videos of recorded  courses to better understand what                                                               
is offered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:48:44 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX said  he  sees  that ASDN  does  not take  a                                                               
cookie-cutter approach  to instruction  delivery for  the various                                                               
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:49:04 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN referred to the  "Base Student Allocation $1413"                                                               
buttons  that  presenters wore.  He  said  many policymakers  are                                                               
trying to  decide what  outcomes and  opportunities are  at stake                                                               
with  every  BSA  dollar  and what  happens  if  districts  don't                                                               
receive additional funding  within the BSA formula.  He had hoped                                                               
to  hear  answers to  these  questions  during the  presentation,                                                               
rather than "fluff."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  noted that  in  considering the  consequences or  opportunity                                                               
costs of funding additional dollars  to K-12 education, educators                                                               
need to provide  answers if they expect to  receive more funding.                                                               
Many decision-makers  are not interested in  hearing about mental                                                               
health  because it  was  not  part of  their  reality when  going                                                               
through school. Others believe  pre-kindergarten education is the                                                               
role of parents.  He opined that in his  experience, parents fall                                                               
short in  this area. If  K-12 schools  are to meet  their mission                                                               
and  maximize the  use of  education dollars,  the role  of pre-K                                                               
must be considered.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:50:57 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   BJORKMAN  said   the  state   must  also   address  the                                                               
duplication   of   services.  Education   constantly   duplicates                                                               
services and then  complains about the cost.  Legislators need to                                                               
hear from educational leaders how  various education bills affect                                                               
their  districts. The  commissioner tells  legislators the  state                                                               
doesn't  need  more  money while  students  are  requesting  that                                                               
programs be saved.  Legislators need to know what is  at stake if                                                               
the BSA  is funded at $1413  or $680; what opportunities  will be                                                               
available to students  in the coming year.  Business leaders want                                                               
educated  students  with  skills.   Alaskans  need  to  know  the                                                               
consequences of investing or not investing in students.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:29 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  asked Ms. Parady to  answer what is at  stake if the                                                               
BSA is funded at $1413 and $680.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY  replied that  regarding  the  unique needs  of  each                                                               
district and  communicating with  policymakers, she  was reminded                                                               
of a  statement made last  year by Representative Stapp,  "When I                                                               
need something from my district, I  ask them, and they give it to                                                               
me." She mentioned that the more  than 100 people who came to the                                                               
legislative   fly-in  want   to   talk  to   their  senator   and                                                               
representatives.   She   implored   legislators  to   meet   with                                                               
constituents,  noting that  some  legislators  have not  accepted                                                               
requests  to  meet. She  opined  that  the presentation  was  not                                                               
"fluff." Rather,  legislators need  to understand that  Alaska is                                                               
struggling  with the  worst  crisis it  has  ever experienced  in                                                               
terms  of educator  turnover.  Fundamentally,  teachers are  very                                                               
important for high-quality instruction.  Districts are reliant on                                                               
foreign teachers in many cases. She  stated that Alaska is not in                                                               
a crisis, but  rather an emergency never  before experienced. She                                                               
said numbers would be provided to members.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:55:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TOBIN  asked what the  difference is between  funding under                                                               
the BSA and policies like a teacher incentive bonus.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:55:55 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GETCHELL gave  an  example  of how  funding  under the  Base                                                               
Student Allocation (BSA) is important.  He opined that schools in                                                               
Alaska are unique  and that communities have the  answers to what                                                               
is best  for their needs.  Rural schools have basic  Maslow needs                                                               
when it  comes to school  buildings. Funding inside the  BSA will                                                               
allow superintendents  to address  the needs of  their districts.                                                               
Ms.  Walker is  a tremendous  superintendent and  might not  have                                                               
high staff turnover  if funding were inside  the BSA. Outsourcing                                                               
education  to another  country gives  responsibility to  teachers                                                               
who will  leave every three  to five years. Hiring  quality staff                                                               
within the  United States who  are going to  stay and be  part of                                                               
the community is  what Alaska needs. One-time  bonuses during the                                                               
pandemic were an  attempt to not lose staff, which  is a band-aid                                                               
approach  to the  problem. He  appreciates  looking at  different                                                               
approaches, but teachers and staff  need predictability and long-                                                               
term relationships with Alaska's communities.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GETCHELL  suggested  that  priorities  for  the  state  need                                                               
determining  and  that needs  should  be  determined at  a  local                                                               
level.  Boards and  leaders can  make  good decisions.  Districts                                                               
have cut  to the  bone, and  there is no  room for  mistakes. BSA                                                               
funding of  $1413 gives educators  hope that Alaska can  have the                                                               
best education  system in the  country and  be proud that  it was                                                               
made better on their watch.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:51 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  HEINEKEN said  she can  only  speak for  the Koyukuk  school                                                               
district  because districts  have varied  needs. However,  she is                                                               
now at the  point of having to decide whether  to heat the school                                                               
or pay  teachers. She believes  many school districts  are facing                                                               
this type of choice.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEINEKEN  stated that  she  allocated  fifty-one percent  of                                                               
general funds into food service  because if kids are hungry, they                                                               
will not  learn. Speaking unofficially about  the Fairbanks North                                                               
Star Borough School  District, she noted that the  closure of two                                                               
schools  affects her  family.  Class sizes  are  30 students  for                                                               
elementary  schools,  32 for  middle  schools,  and 35  for  high                                                               
school, which she described as  crazy. Alaska's students are in a                                                               
dire situation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:01:39 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR TOBIN stated that the  National Education Association (NEA)                                                               
recommends  a  ratio   of  1  teacher  for  every   10  pre-K  to                                                               
kindergarten  students  and 1  teacher  for  every 15  elementary                                                               
school students.  She opined that a  class size of 30  seems very                                                               
untenable for one educator.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:01:52 AM                                                                                                                   
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Tobin  adjourned  the   joint  Senate  Education  Standing                                                               
Committee  and  House  Education Standing  Committee  meeting  at                                                               
10:01 a.m.                                                                                                                      

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