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02/05/2026 01:30 PM House TRANSPORTATION

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01:42:04 PM Start
01:43:17 PM Presentation(s): Function of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board
02:14:19 PM Presentation(s): Function of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board, Cascade Point Overview and Update
02:58:32 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentations: TELECONFERENCED
-Function of the Alaska Marine Highways
Operation Board, Cascade Point Overview and
Update by Craig Tornga, Director; and Christopher
Goins, Director, Southcoast Region, Alaska Marine
Highway System
-Function of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations
Board by Wanetta Ayers, Chair; and Anthony
Lindoff, Vice Chair, Alaska Marine Highway
Operations Board
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        February 5, 2026                                                                                        
                           1:42 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ashley Carrick, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Ted Eischeid, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Steve St. Clair                                                                                                  
Representative Garret Nelson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): FUNCTION OF THE ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY                                                                          
OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S): FUNCTION OF THE ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY                                                                          
OPERATIONS BOARD~ CASCADE POINT OVERVIEW AND UPDATE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WANETTA AYERS, Chair                                                                                                            
Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered  a presentation, titled "Function                                                             
of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANTHONY LINDOFF, Vice Chair                                                                                                     
Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered  a presentation, titled "Function                                                             
of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG TORNGA, Marine Director                                                                                                   
Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                                                    
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered  a presentation, titled "Function                                                             
of  the Alaska  Marine  Highway Operations  Board, Cascade  Point                                                               
Overview and Update."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ANDY MILLS, Legislative Liaison                                                                                                 
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  Function of                                                             
the  Alaska  Marine  Highway   Operations  Board,  Cascade  Point                                                               
Overview and Update presentation                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE KEITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered  a presentation, titled "Function                                                             
of  the Alaska  Marine  Highway Operations  Board, Cascade  Point                                                               
Overview and Update."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK   called  the  House   Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting to order at  1:42 p.m.  Representatives McCabe,                                                               
Mina,  St.  Clair, Nelson,  Stutes,  Eischeid,  and Carrick  were                                                               
present at  the call to  order.  Also present  was Representative                                                               
Himschoot.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):   Function  of   the   Alaska  Marine   Highway                                                               
Operations Board                                                                                                                
     PRESENTATION(S): Function of the Alaska Marine Highway                                                                 
                        Operations Board                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
1:43:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  announced that  the  first  order of  business                                                               
would be  the Function  of the  Alaska Marine  Highway Operations                                                               
Board presentation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:44 p.m. to 1:45 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WANETTA  AYERS, Chair,  Alaska Marine  Highway Operations  Board,                                                               
gave  a  presentation,  titled "Function  of  the  Alaska  Marine                                                               
Highway Operations Board," via PowerPoint  [hard copy included in                                                               
the  committee file]/   She  began by  offering gratitude  to the                                                               
committee.   She provided  a brief history  of the  Alaska Marine                                                               
Highway Operations Board (AMHOB),  explaining that it was created                                                               
under  House  Bill  63  during  the  Thirty-Second  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature.   The  board is  populated by  both legislative  and                                                               
executive  appointees and  meets several  times per  month.   She                                                               
emphasized Senator James Kaufman's  role in helping AMHOB members                                                               
understand  legislative  intent,  AMHOB's  responsibilities,  and                                                               
other important  formation aspects.   She  noted that  last year,                                                               
the  legislature  reaffirmed  its   intent  to  maintain  AMHOB's                                                               
structure.    After  receiving feedback  from  Commissioner  Ryan                                                               
Anderson of the Department of  Transportation & Public Facilities                                                               
(DOT&PF), AMHOB now  provides written notes from  meetings to the                                                               
commissioner and welcomes two-way communication.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS  stated that operational  status is  improving, despite                                                               
many  ongoing challenges.    These  challenges include  inherited                                                               
misalignment,  workforce  challenges,  and  an  escalating  price                                                               
environment since AMHOB's existence.   She applauded Commissioner                                                               
Anderson for naming Mr. Tornga  to lead the Alaska Marine Highway                                                               
System  (AMHS) and  described Mr.  Tornga's contributions  to the                                                               
board.   She elaborated  on the  funding challenges  AMHOB faces,                                                               
stating that  certain funding  sources are  not guaranteed.   She                                                               
noted that a meeting with  U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski to discuss                                                               
funding was cancelled.  She  added that grant processes have been                                                               
disrupted but AMHOB  is committed to searching  for other funding                                                               
sources and  partnerships, including  tribal relationships.   Ms.                                                               
Ayers  stated  that AMHOB's  next  big  challenge will  be  fleet                                                               
modernization.   She emphasized that  fleet modernization  is the                                                               
most critical  issue facing AMHS  and that the state  delayed its                                                               
replacement of the motor vessel (M/V) Tustumena too long.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:57:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANTHONY  LINDOFF, Vice  Chair, Alaska  Marine Highway  Operations                                                               
Board, added that  he is a staunch cheerleader for  Ms. Ayers and                                                               
echoed   her   comments   regarding    Mr.   Tornga   and   fleet                                                               
modernization.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:58:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES stated  that  she  is intimately  familiar                                                               
with the  AMHOB legislation.   She asked  if the  required annual                                                               
report from  AMHOB was altered  between its submission  to DOT&PF                                                               
and its delivery to the legislature.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. AYERS responded that AMHOB  is required by statute to provide                                                               
an annual  report and that  its submission  was delayed due  to a                                                               
cancelled meeting.   She explained that the  2045 AMHS Long-range                                                               
plan  was a  major  focus  during AMHOB's  first  three years  of                                                               
existence,  which  was summarized  in  a  letter to  Commissioner                                                               
Anderson.    The  Long-range  plan in  the  letter  was  slightly                                                               
altered for  release to  the public.   She  added that  the AMHOB                                                               
legislation allows for  the issuing of corrective  notice and the                                                               
board exercised its statutory responsibilities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES asked  if  the  letter containing  AMHOB's                                                               
Long-range plan was altered by DOT&PF.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS  responded  that  AMHOB   discovered  the  letter  was                                                               
altered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS,   in  response   to  a   series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative McCabe,  stated that the major  alterations to the                                                               
report  are listed  in a  letter  on the  AMHOB webpage,  labeled                                                               
"corrective actions."  She offered  some of the changes that were                                                               
made, including language referring  to the proposed Cascade Point                                                               
project.   Ms. Ayers added  that AMHOB  has not taken  a position                                                               
for  or against  the Cascade  Point project.   She  said that  in                                                               
2024, AMHOB  requested a business  case study for  Cascade Point.                                                               
Throughout  the development  of  the Long-range  plan, there  was                                                               
occasionally information presented to  AMHOB, but no cost-benefit                                                               
analysis  was provided.   She  noted  that the  minutes from  the                                                               
AMHOB April 2024 meeting are indicative of the board's position.                                                                
She emphasized that there are huge capital needs across AMHS.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE said  that AMHOB's  capital outlay  is the                                                               
legislature's job, not AMHOB's.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  AYERS emphasized  that AMHOB's  responsibility is  to ensure                                                               
that there is  a Long-range plan in place  and capital allocation                                                               
does inform long-range planning.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:12:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK  commented that consideration of  capital outlay                                                               
is a part of informed decision-making.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):   Function  of   the   Alaska  Marine   Highway                                                               
Operations Board, Cascade Point Overview and Update                                                                             
     PRESENTATION(S): Function of the Alaska Marine Highway                                                                 
      Operations Board, Cascade Point Overview and Update                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
2:14:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  announced that  the  first  order of  business                                                               
would be  a presentation, titled  "Function of the  Alaska Marine                                                               
Highways Operations Board, Cascade Point Overview and Update."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG  TORNGA, Marine  Director,  Marine  Highway System  (AMHS),                                                               
Department  of   Transportation  &  Public  Facilities,   gave  a                                                               
presentation,  titled  "Function  of the  Alaska  Marine  Highway                                                               
Operations  Board,  Cascade  Point   Overview  and  Update,"  via                                                               
PowerPoint [hard copy included in  the committee file].  He began                                                               
on slide  2, which highlighted  what AMHOB accomplished  in 2025.                                                               
He said  his time with AMHS  has been spent working  on the AMHOB                                                               
Long-range plan.   He noted that  in 2025, AMHOB retired  the M/V                                                               
Matanuska,  approved a  waterfall funding  model, and  engaged in                                                               
workforce initiatives.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:17:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA,  in response  to a  question from  Representative St.                                                               
Clair, described the waterfall model of funding.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TORNGA moved  to slide  3 and  explained that  AMHOB's focus                                                               
areas  in  the  Long-range  plan   are  fleet  renewal,  terminal                                                               
upgrades, workforce  development, and  financial efficiency.   He                                                               
moved  to slide  4, which  summarized feedback  received from  68                                                               
communities regarding AMHOB's Long-range  plan.  He described the                                                               
public engagement  regarding the Long-range plan  and the process                                                               
of  hosting  open  houses  and   call  lines  to  receive  public                                                               
feedback.  Reliability  was the top piece of  feedback that AMHOB                                                               
received, in terms of what the public wants.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  noted that  this  is  a  very high  number  of                                                               
community responses.  She asked  Mr. Tornga to define reliability                                                               
regarding AMHS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA  responded that reliability includes  services without                                                               
interruptions,  which  requires  ongoing maintenance.    He  said                                                               
AMHOB  tracks the  time that  vessels  are out  of service,  with                                                               
98.55 percent of "up-time" in 2025.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR EISCHEID thanked  Mr. Tornga for his service.   He asked                                                               
what this level of public engagement means.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA  noted the  passion for  AMHS and  said he  hears from                                                               
communities why they  need AMHS.  He said AMHOB  often hears both                                                               
what the  public is used  to and  what it experiences  today with                                                               
AMHS.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID described  his  experience  as a  professional                                                               
planner and emphasized  that mass public engagement  is the basis                                                               
for longevity of a Long-range plan.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TORNGA  emphasized that  his  dream  is  that this  plan  is                                                               
followed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY  MILLS, Legislative  Liaison,  Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of Transportation  & Public  Facilities, stated  that                                                               
there is  a long  history of  work prior  to AMHOB  and described                                                               
some previous improvement efforts for AMHS.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TORNGA,   in  response  to   a  series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative  McCabe,  stated  that   the  Long-range  plan  is                                                               
modelled out  to 2045, with  the gap between  forecasted expenses                                                               
and  forecasted revenue  projected to  grow by  $90 million.   He                                                               
said that there  are only two current vessels  projected to still                                                               
be in use  in 2045, with hopes of moving  towards more efficient,                                                               
diesel vessels.   He added  that AMHS' farebox recovery  ratio is                                                               
around 30  percent, but he hopes  it will increase to  40 percent                                                               
by 2045.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE   KEITH,    Deputy   Commissioner,   Office    of   the                                                               
Commissioner, Department  of Transportation &  Public Facilities,                                                               
moved  to  slide  5, which  highlighted  the  currently  approved                                                               
Southeast Alaska Transportation  Plan (SEATP).  She  said that it                                                               
launched  a  vision  for improving  travel  throughout  southeast                                                               
Alaska, including both  ferries and road access  to shorten ferry                                                               
routes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:36:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH, in response to  a question from Co-Chair Carrick, said                                                               
that  there will  be  slides addressing  the  road extensions  to                                                               
shorten ferry routes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:37:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH,  in response to  a question from  Representative Mina,                                                               
said she  assumes that  public engagement  was extensive  for the                                                               
2004 SEATP  and that these recommendations  regarding road access                                                               
would open more opportunities for travel.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:38:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH moved  to slide  6,  which highlighted  Sitka and  the                                                               
complications  ferries  experience  currently  traveling  to  the                                                               
city.  She  said that more direct ferry routes  between Sitka and                                                               
Juneau would offer more frequent  service, decreasing fuel usage,                                                               
staffing time, and operational costs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA added that mainline  vessels consume the most fuel and                                                               
that  a  road  across  Baranof  Island  would  make  routes  more                                                               
efficient.   He  said that  a  Native regional  hospital will  be                                                               
built in Sitka.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK   asked  about   the  winter   maintenance  and                                                               
operational costs for a road across Baranof Island.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH said  she can  offer dollar  amounts for  similar road                                                               
projects   and   that   the   Alaska   Statewide   Transportation                                                               
Improvement   Program   (STIP)   would   accomplish   preliminary                                                               
reconnaissance studies to  answer questions regarding maintenance                                                               
and costs of that road.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK clarified that DOT&PF  would like to build a 16-                                                               
mile road to  a ferry terminal and would have  to cover the costs                                                               
of maintenance and operation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA confirmed  that that is correct and  that this project                                                               
would cost less than a ferry run on that same route.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:42:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH, in response to  a question from Representative McCabe,                                                               
explained that  there would be  a bus  provided by AMHS  to carry                                                               
passengers to the ferry terminal.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:44:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH  moved to slide  7, which demonstrated  another example                                                               
of a  road extension  near Petersburg and  Mitkof Island  to pull                                                               
ferry terminals closer together.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA  highlighted that there  is already a partial  road in                                                               
this direction, which would help direct the project.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK asked  about the average cost to  build roads on                                                               
these Southeast Alaska islands, across challenging terrain.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH  responded that there  are existing logging  roads that                                                               
the state  has easements  to.   She said  that she  could provide                                                               
proposed costs to the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK emphasized the state  has a limited capacity for                                                               
new capital projects right now.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:47:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE asked  about the  environmental impact  of                                                               
running a ferry versus a car.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH said that she  can provide those calculations and there                                                               
would be  a significant carbon emissions  reduction by shortening                                                               
ferry routes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH  identified multiple road segments  on Chichagof Island                                                               
that would allow  ferry service to shift from  long regional runs                                                               
to short shuttle connections.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TORNGA emphasized  the need  for a  road between  Hoonah and                                                               
Tenakee Springs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:50:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID  asked  about  Kaufman  Cove,  where  a  ferry                                                               
terminal was built far from the  town it was intended to service,                                                               
and  ultimately closed.   He  asked about  the risk  of the  same                                                               
occurring again.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. TORNGA responded  that that terminal was put in  place by the                                                               
Inter-Island  Ferry Authority  and was  not an  AMHS terminal  at                                                               
that time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH,   in  response   to  a   series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative  Stutes,  stated  that the  2045  Long-range  plan                                                               
includes a recommendation to evaluate  road connections to reduce                                                               
time for longer ferry runs,  but road construction costs were not                                                               
included  in the  plan.    She stated  that  DOT&PF has  provided                                                               
operating  costs  of the  ferry  terminal  in the  presentation's                                                               
slides.  She said that the  operating analysis by Ed King did not                                                               
include capital costs,  but the department has  provided the full                                                               
cost analysis to AMHOB.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES stated, "I give up."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR EISCHEID observed  that he heard both "no"  and "yes" in                                                               
Ms. Keith's previous statements.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH replied  that the  answer depends  on which  report is                                                               
being read.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR EISCHEID said that was a confusing answer                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH said the department has the full capital costs and                                                                    
operational savings and it has shared them publicly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:56:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK asked DOT&PF to follow up with the committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:57:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA asked DOT&PF to include the funds needed to                                                                 
maintain the capital infrastructure in its follow-up to the                                                                     
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:57:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked DOT&PF to include the funds needed                                                                  
to lease the land that the ferry dock would be built on.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:58                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
20260205 HTRA AMHOB and Cascade Point FINAL.pdf HTRA 2/5/2026 1:30:00 PM