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01:02:37 PM Presentation(s): Match Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects
02:59:30 PM Adjourn
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Dom Pannone, Director, Department of
Transportation
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 27, 2026                                                                                        
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ashley Carrick, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Ted Eischeid, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Steve St. Clair                                                                                                  
Representative Garret Nelson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S): MATCH FUNDS AND IMPACTS OF VETOES ON PROJECTS                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered a presentation, titled "Match                                                                 
Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DOM PANNONE, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Program Management and Administration                                                                               
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered a presentation, titled "Match                                                                 
Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE KEITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Co-offered a  presentation titled,  "Match                                                             
Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TED  EISCHEID called  the House  Transportation Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  1:01 p.m.  Representatives Stutes,                                                               
Nelson,  McCabe,  Mina, St.  Clair,  Carrick,  and Eischeid  were                                                               
present at the call to order.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): Match Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects                                                                 
 PRESENTATION(S): Match Funds and Impacts of Vetoes on Projects                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:02:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID  announced that  the  only  order of  business                                                               
would  be the  Match  Funds  and Impacts  of  Vetoes on  Projects                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:03:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN   ANDERSON,  Commissioner,   Office  of   the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Transportation & Public Facilities  (DOT&PF), gave                                                               
a  PowerPoint presentation,  titled "Match  Funds and  Impacts of                                                               
Vetoes on Projects"  [hard copy included in  the committee file],                                                               
beginning  on  slide  2,  "FFY   2025  Project  Delivery  Program                                                               
Review",  which demonstrated  a  map of  the  148 projects  under                                                               
construction  in  2025.     Slide  2  also   listed  the  focused                                                               
infrastructure  areas  and  included  a  chart  showing  contract                                                               
awards, payments,  and obligations per federal  fiscal year (FFY)                                                               
since 2022.  Commissioner Anderson  stated that DOT&PF would like                                                               
to follow  through with the  legislature's goals of  getting more                                                               
projects  out and  noted  that  there are  tools  online for  the                                                               
public to see current construction schedules.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON moved to slide  3, "FFY2025 Project Delivery Program                                                               
Review,"  which showed  a graph  of overall  contract awards  for                                                               
each of  the last  four years, with  2025 receiving  the highest.                                                               
There  were $897,230,167  in contract  awards in  FFY 2025.   The                                                               
chart   broke  down   the  awards   by  type,   including  marine                                                               
facilities, highways, aviation, and public facilities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:07:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Eischeid,  stated  that  awards  for the  Alaska  Marine  Highway                                                               
System (AMHS) primarily came from other funding sources in 2025.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved  to slide 4, which showed  a graph of                                                               
Federal  Highway Administration  (FHWA) funds  obligated per  FFY                                                               
between 2019-2025.   He  noted that  2025 was  the year  with the                                                               
highest obligations on record.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Eischeid, described the process for funds to become obligated.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative  Stutes, stated  that  the  Cascade Point  project                                                               
utilized  state funds,  which  have  different requirements  than                                                               
federal  funds, and  he described  a process  called design-build                                                               
that was  employed for this  project.   He noted that  funds must                                                               
first be secured before awarding a  contract.  He stated that the                                                               
construction  of  the Cascade  Point  project  was subsequent  to                                                               
vetoes so the funding was already secured.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOM  PANNONE,  Director,  Division   of  Program  Management  and                                                               
Administration,   Department    of   Transportation    &   Public                                                               
Facilities, added  that the appropriations  were already  in hand                                                               
at the  start of  the Cascade Point  project, in  accordance with                                                               
statute.   A  contract was  then made  with design-build  for the                                                               
final amount.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:12:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE, in response to  a question from Representative Mina,                                                               
explained that the August redistribution  allows DOT&PF to access                                                               
the funds that  are put in a federal savings  account every year.                                                               
Because  there were  less August  redistribution  funds in  2024,                                                               
DOT&PF had access to more of those funds in 2025.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative  McCabe, stated  that  although  DOT&PF's goal  is                                                               
undisrupted project  delivery, funding changes can  cause project                                                               
delays.  He said that funding changes caused the restart of the                                                                 
Knik  Goose Bay  (KGB)  road  project.   He  said  that in  2023,                                                               
Governor Mike Dunleavy signed a  memorandum of understanding with                                                               
Goldbelt Heritage  Foundation, recognizing  the joint  benefit of                                                               
Cascade   Point,  which   initiated  collaboration   between  the                                                               
foundation and  DOT&PF.  He  said that he hopes  this partnership                                                               
will inspire future partnerships  as well.  Commissioner Anderson                                                               
emphasized how expensive  AMHS is to run,  explaining that longer                                                               
roads with shorter ferry routes would reduce operational costs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:18:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Carrick,  stated that  since 2023,  DOT&PF has  spent about  $4.5                                                               
million on Cascade Point.   He said he does not  have the date of                                                               
the  design-build solicitation,  which occurs  when a  project is                                                               
"shovel ready."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:19:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE  noted that DOT&PF  did have obligations  against the                                                               
appropriation.   The  balance of  the  obligation was  encumbered                                                               
when DOT&PF  finalized the design-build contract,  which occurred                                                               
before the vetoes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK  asked how a design-build  contract differs from                                                               
an obligation on a project.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PANNONE responded  that DOT&PF  had a  contract in  place at                                                               
that  point  and  that  once  a contract  is  signed,  funds  are                                                               
encumbered and obligated.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON  added   that  encumbrance   through  the                                                               
contract secures the funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   CARRICK  asked   about  the   Alaska  Marine   Highway                                                               
Operations Board's (AMHOB's) letter  of opposition to the Cascade                                                               
Point project.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON   responded  that  AMHOB   recognizes  the                                                               
importance of  shortening routes  and has spoken  against Cascade                                                               
Point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  stated  that  the way  Cascade  Point  is                                                               
moving  forward  is  disgusting, particularly  the  disregard  of                                                               
AMHOB's opposition to the project.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON,  in   response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative  St. Clair,  briefly explained  the steps  between                                                               
securing funds  and putting a  project out to bid,  which differs                                                               
between agencies.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:24:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON,  in   response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative McCabe,  stated that design-build has  been around                                                               
for a while.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:25:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved  to slide 5, which showed  a graph of                                                               
funds obligated by FFY for  airports between 2019-2025.  He noted                                                               
that  2025 was  a record  year for  the DOT&PF's  airport program                                                               
with $321.4 million in airport grants secured in FFY 2025.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:26:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Eischeid,  stated that  this year  DOT&PF will  be going  through                                                               
surface  transportation  reauthorization  where funding  will  be                                                               
renegotiated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:26:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved  to slide 6, which showed  a graph of                                                               
advance construction  (AC) and  AC conversion  by FFY  from 2019-                                                               
2025.    He  spoke  about  the advantages  of  AC,  which  allows                                                               
projects to begin immediately when shovel ready.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:27:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Co-Chair Eischeid, said that a  disadvantage of AC is the balance                                                               
that  needs to  be paid  in the  future, which  DOT&PF is  always                                                               
looking for opportunities to pay off.   He added that there is no                                                               
charge assessed  on the  state from  FHWA for  using AC  and that                                                               
there is  no interest  charge like a  credit card.   Commissioner                                                               
Anderson stated that there is a  process to approve a project for                                                               
AC.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Carrick,  explained   that  a  project  must   undergo  the  same                                                               
processes of  certifications, whether or  not AC funds  are being                                                               
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK  asked if contractors experience  increased risk                                                               
of not being paid when AC is used on a project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE  explained that using AC  for a project does  not put                                                               
the contractor  at any additional  risk.   He said that  there is                                                               
virtually no risk to the state either.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:33:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PANNONE,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
McCabe, stated  that there is no  cap on AC funding.   The DOT&PF                                                               
cycles  projects through  because  once a  project has  completed                                                               
construction, there  is a conversion timeline,  and cycling keeps                                                               
expenditures down on the reauthorization process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON added that  contract authority is portioned                                                               
out over the year.   AC allows DOT&PF to bid  on a project before                                                               
receiving contract authority.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Eischeid, stated that since the  pandemic, inflation has affected                                                               
the cost of projects.  He said AC  has been a tool to still carry                                                               
out those inflated projects                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE,  in response  to a  question from  Co-Chair Carrick,                                                               
stated that DOT&PF must have the  federal match funds at the time                                                               
of AC.  He explained the mechanics of the funding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative Stutes, stated that  DOT&PF has enough match funds                                                               
through  July  1,  but  not  enough  to  fund  projects  for  the                                                               
remainder of  the year.   He explained that projects  that DOT&PF                                                               
bids now were  obligated two months ago.  He  said that DOT&PF is                                                               
not concerned  about the funding  for projects after July  1, but                                                               
this  means that  there could  be  fewer projects  on the  street                                                               
later in the construction season.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:41:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE,  in response  to a  question from  Co-Chair Carrick,                                                               
said that  when DOT&PF awards and  enters a contract, it  has the                                                               
full amount  of funds in  its account or full  AC authorizations.                                                               
He  emphasized that  contractors are  not at  risk of  DOT&PF not                                                               
being able to pay.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON agreed  that after  July 1,  DOT&PF cannot                                                               
award  more  contracts.    He  said that  is  the  problem.    He                                                               
explained that  DOT&PF obligates funds  first and then  bids once                                                               
the funds are secured.  So,  funds could neither be obligated nor                                                               
bid after July 1.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:45:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative Stutes,  said that certainty  is a good  thing for                                                               
the federal programs but noted  that the August redistribution is                                                               
an unknown  until August.   He reiterated that DOT&PF  has enough                                                               
match funds to make it through  its project load until July 1 and                                                               
that certainty is a good thing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative  McCabe,  said  that   the  governor  submitted  a                                                               
supplemental bill  for the match  that DOT&PF would  need through                                                               
July 1.  He said if  DOT&PF receives those funds, there should be                                                               
no disruption  in workflow.   He said  that contractors  are also                                                               
looking  for certainty  about their  planning, so  they are  also                                                               
being affected by this unknown.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:49:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID asked  if an  earlier supplemental  bill would                                                               
help contractors execute the jobs that DOT&PF is asking of them.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  responded that  DOT&PF is  projecting that                                                               
starting July 1,  it will bid on projects that  would utilize the                                                               
additional  match  funds.    He   said  that  he  can  understand                                                               
contractors' concerns regarding certainty.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR EISCHEID  stated that he  would find it helpful  to hear                                                               
from the  contractors early in the  session as well to  flesh out                                                               
some of these concerns.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  moved to  slide 7, "FFY  2026 Construction                                                               
Pipeline,"  which  showed  two graphs:    one  of  infrastructure                                                               
spending  by decade  since 1980  and the  other of  chained index                                                               
value  over  time  from  2011-2024.    He  said  that  DOT&PF  is                                                               
considering inflation trends as it forecasts future projects.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved  to slide 8, which showed  a chart of                                                               
forecasted contract awards for FFY 2026.   He noted that he added                                                               
a shovel ready  projects piece to more  accurately project awards                                                               
going into the following year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE continued  on slide 9, titled  "Capital Major Program                                                               
Expenditures,"  which showed  a chart  of expenditures  per major                                                               
program  for  each  of  the  last three  FFYs.    He  noted  that                                                               
expenditures can come from multiple  years of appropriations.  He                                                               
identified the acronyms of each major program listed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE,  in response to  a question from  Co-Chair Eischeid,                                                               
stated that in  the years DOT&PF reduced AC, there  may have been                                                               
fewer contracts.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  moved to  slide  10,  titled "  FFY  2026                                                               
Fiscal  Outlook," which  showed that  the federal  programs total                                                               
combined  investment  is  about  $1.98  billion,  including  both                                                               
surface and  air transportation programs.   Slide 10  also listed                                                               
highlights and focuses of both programs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE moved to slide  11, "FFY2026 Project Delivery," which                                                               
showed a  chart of  the state  fiscal year  2026 (FY  26) capital                                                               
match  summary.   He  noted that  DOT&PF  adjusted the  statewide                                                               
transportation improvement plan (STIP)  to reflect the reductions                                                               
in  match  funds  for  the  surface  transportation  program  and                                                               
airport improvement program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON,  in response  to a question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Carrick,  stated that  DOT&PF is  employing  more variable  match                                                               
rates in  its programs and  he is unaware of  Alaska jeopardizing                                                               
its 9:1 match rate.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE  moved to slide  12, "FFY2026 Match,"  which outlined                                                               
the history of the FFY 26 match.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative  Stutes, stated  that the  public review  draft of                                                               
the new  STIP should be  published February  13, 2026.   He noted                                                               
that DOT&PF considered amendments  from the previous STIP review.                                                               
He said  that because DOT&PF  is using  a rolling STIP,  there is                                                               
not a federal due date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE   KEITH,    Deputy   Commissioner,   Office    of   the                                                               
Commissioner, Department  of Transportation &  Public Facilities,                                                               
picked  up the  PowerPoint on  slide 15,  which outlined  primary                                                               
events pertaining to  STIP since March 27, 2024.   She said there                                                               
have  been two  amendments since  the original  STIP approval  in                                                               
2024 and  DOT&PF has been  actively working to finalize  the next                                                               
STIP.   She  highlighted important  dates from  the rolling  STIP                                                               
process.  She said DOT&PF needed  to defer about 25 projects with                                                               
the   second  STIP   amendment   because  not   all  funds   were                                                               
appropriated.   Due  to  the constraints  on  funding, Ms.  Keith                                                               
confirmed  that  DOT&PF  would  be  reevaluating  its  priorities                                                               
pertaining to projects.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH,  in response  to a series  of questions  from Co-Chair                                                               
Carrick, explained that  the rolling STIP does  not change DOT&PF                                                               
processes  but offers  more opportunities  for public  engagement                                                               
and  increases the  frequency of  the  process.   She noted  that                                                               
DOT&PF  has  been incorporating  its  ongoing  findings into  new                                                               
iterations of STIP.  Some  topics, including the STIP format, are                                                               
still uncertain.   She highlighted  that this new STIP  should be                                                               
more straightforward, with more plain  language.  She stated that                                                               
FFY  25 saw  great improvements  in dialogue  between DOT&PF  and                                                               
FHWA and described the process  of quickly approving the previous                                                               
rolling STIP.   She highlighted that DOT&PF will  be publishing a                                                               
pre-release version  of STIP,  increasing opportunity  for public                                                               
engagement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:14:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE expressed  his belief  that the  2024 STIP                                                               
failure was not fully the fault of DOT&PF.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  responded that  there was  a lot  of noise                                                               
about STIP.   He highlighted  that every year, DOT&PF  is growing                                                               
the program  and securing more  contract awards, and  that DOT&PF                                                               
stays focused on results.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:16:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID asked  where  the idea  for  the rolling  STIP                                                               
originated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH  responded  that several  states  have  implemented  a                                                               
rolling  STIP,  and DOT&PF  reviewed  best  practices from  those                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON highlighted that the  State of Alaska won a                                                               
national award for how it develops its STIP.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:18:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH  moved to  slide 16,  which outlined  the developmental                                                               
process of a rolling STIP.   She highlighted that DOT&PF requires                                                               
cost estimates  and considers project eligibility  before issuing                                                               
a  new  STIP.    She  moved   to  slide  17,  which  listed  FHWA                                                               
recommendations for  the 2026-2029  STIP.   She said  that DOT&PF                                                               
has  a  10-year plan  internally  to  evaluate asset  management,                                                               
which she hopes  will be made available to the  public soon.  She                                                               
expressed  hope  to  simplify  the   next  rolling  STIP  and  to                                                               
streamline future amendments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH, in  response to  a question  from Co-Chair  Eischeid,                                                               
stated  that DOT&PF  will be  using artificial  intelligence (AI)                                                               
for error prevention.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  EISCHEID  noted  that  he  has never  used  AI  in  his                                                               
professional work.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:24:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH  reiterated  that  at  this time,  there  is  not  any                                                               
additional appropriation  for the  remainder of the  match needed                                                               
for the  STIP.  To  fund the remainder  of the program,  she said                                                               
that DOT&PF  will be leveraging  its ability to use  toll credits                                                               
and  AC conversions.    She said  that paying  AC  back does  not                                                               
require match funds.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH,   in  response   to  a   series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative Carrick, said  that the goal is to get  a STIP out                                                               
but when  more match  is available, DOT&PF  would go  through the                                                               
amendment process.  She said she  would like to prepare a list of                                                               
eligible projects  and programs ready  that could be  included in                                                               
the  next  amendment under  additional  match  funds.   She  said                                                               
DOT&PF has brainstormed when it  should release the next STIP for                                                               
public comment and that having  certainty of what the match funds                                                               
will be would prevent rework of  the STIP in the second amendment                                                               
phase.  She  hopes to have no delays in  project delivery despite                                                               
this uncertainty.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:29:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH, in response to  a question from Representative Stutes,                                                               
clarified that  DOT&PF can move  forward with public  comment for                                                               
STIP,  and this  would  be  the approved  STIP  if  there are  no                                                               
changes in match funding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  clarified that  additional match  funds is                                                               
what would prompt an amendment to STIP.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:30:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH,   in  response   to  a   series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative  McCabe, confirmed  that rolling  STIPs would  not                                                               
necessarily avoid  the need for  new amendments,  explaining that                                                               
many different  factors can  require amendments.   She  said that                                                               
the procedure he described is  still in place for STIP amendments                                                               
and that DOT&PF hopes for  more flexibility in the STIP amendment                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH,  in response to  a question from  Representative Mina,                                                               
stated  that AC  changes fiscal  constraint requirements;  it can                                                               
allow projects  to move forward,  so long as federal  match funds                                                               
are available.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  moved to  slide 19, which  listed projects                                                               
for the  2026-2029 STIP with  estimates between $100  million and                                                               
$250 million  and with estimates  greater than $250 million.   He                                                               
noted that  DOT&PF has  more $100 million  projects than  it ever                                                               
had.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, in response to  a series of questions from                                                               
Representative Mina,  confirmed that the safety  corridor project                                                               
is part  of the Safer Seward  Highway project.  He  described the                                                               
requirements for the Safer Seward Highway project.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:40:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK asked  why the  state is  pursuing the  Cascade                                                               
Point project  in its  design-build phase if  DOT&PF is  short on                                                               
its  match  funds.    She   asked  why  this  project  is  taking                                                               
precedence over critical pedestrian safety projects.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON responded that  all projects are priorities                                                               
and  DOT&PF determines  priorities  based on  a project  delivery                                                               
schedule.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CARRICK reiterated that the  public does not believe its                                                               
input and the priorities of DOT&PF are aligning.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON,  in   response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative  McCabe,  described   DOT&PF's  relationship  with                                                               
Goldbelt Heritage Foundation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:46:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES asked  whose  priority  Cascade Point  is.                                                               
She  stated  that Cascade  Point  is  not  the priority  for  the                                                               
surrounding villages  and that the  issue has split  Juneau, with                                                               
most  of its  community opposing  the  project.   She noted  that                                                               
there  is  AMHS infrastructure  falling  apart  that would  be  a                                                               
better place to use funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  that there  is funding  for building                                                               
and certifying  12 or  13 ferry  docks.   He stated  that shorter                                                               
ferry runs would reduce AMHS operational costs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES emphasized  that the  goal of  AMHS is  to                                                               
service Alaskans, not to make  money, and that federal funding is                                                               
running out.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  said DOT&PF  is  working  on the  federal                                                               
funding issue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asserted  that over the last  12 years, the                                                               
current administration's objective has been to discontinue AMHS.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON,  in   response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative  McCabe,  agreed that  the  long-term  plan is  to                                                               
reduce  AMHS  operational  costs  to save  money  and  eventually                                                               
replace vessels.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:53:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH,  in response to  a question from  Representative Mina,                                                               
explained the  discrepancy between  slides showing FHWA  funds in                                                               
2025, stating  that one  slide showed  all available  revenue and                                                               
the other showed an obligated dollar amount.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:57:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK thanked  DOT&PF guests  for their  presentation                                                               
and  the critical  conversation they  had.   She asked  DOT&PF to                                                               
inform the committee how it can continue to help moving forward.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:59:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:59                                                                 
p.m.