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01/30/2025 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION

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01:01:58 PM Start
01:02:41 PM Presentation: Rural Aviation System Update
02:16:04 PM Presentation: Overview and Update of the Statewide Transportation Improvement Program
03:01:40 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Rural Aviation System Update by TELECONFERENCED
Troy LaRue, Director of Statewide Aviation
+ Presentation: Overview and Update of the TELECONFERENCED
Statewide Transportation Improvement Program by
Katherine Keith, Deputy Commissioner; and Dom
Pannone, Program Management and Administration
Director
-- Above Item Continued from 01/28/25 --
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 30, 2025                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ashley Carrick, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Ted Eischeid, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Elexie Moore                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  RURAL AVIATION SYSTEM UPDATE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:      OVERVIEW   AND   UPDATE   OF   THE   STATEWIDE                                                               
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TROY LARUE, Director                                                                                                            
Statewide Aviation                                                                                                              
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided the Rural Aviation System Update                                                                
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE KEITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Co-provided the Overview and  Update of the                                                             
Statewide Transportation Improvement Program presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DOM PANNONE, Director                                                                                                           
Program Management and Administration                                                                                           
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Co-provided the Overview and  Update of the                                                             
Statewide Transportation Improvement Program presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK   called  the  House   Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting to  order at 1:02 p.m.   Representatives Moore,                                                               
McCabe, Mina, Eischeid,  and Carrick were present at  the call to                                                               
order.   Representative  Stutes  arrived as  the  meeting was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  Rural Aviation System Update                                                                                    
          PRESENTATION:  Rural Aviation System Update                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
1:02:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  announced that  the  first  order of  business                                                               
would be the Rural Aviation System Update presentation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TROY   LARUE,  Director,   Statewide   Aviation,  Department   of                                                               
Transportation  & Public  Facilities,  began  the Rural  Aviation                                                               
System  Update  presentation  [hard copy  included  in  committee                                                               
packet], on  slide 2, "Mission  Statements," and stated  that the                                                               
mission  statement  of  Department  of  Transportation  &  Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF)  is "Keep Alaska  moving through  service and                                                               
infrastructure"; the  statement of Alaska  International Airports                                                               
Systems  (AIAS) is  "Keep Alaska  flying and  thriving"; and  the                                                               
statement  of Statewide  Aviation (SWA)  is "Sustain  and improve                                                               
the quality  of life  throughout Alaska."   To  slide 3,  he said                                                               
AIAS reports to  the commissioner of DOT&PF while  SWA reports to                                                               
the deputy commissioner.   To slide 5, he  emphasized that Alaska                                                               
has 82 communities that are off  the road system and dependent on                                                               
aviation   to   receive   supplies  and   transportation.      He                                                               
transitioned to  slide 6 and  asserted that the  operating budget                                                               
for  SWA is  shy  of $50  million  in costs  and  $11 million  in                                                               
revenue attained  through leasing and  fuel taxes.   The division                                                               
is looking  at sand and  chemical runway optimizations  and doing                                                               
more work with federal funding rather  than the general fund.  He                                                               
emphasized  the  number of  roles  individuals  perform in  rural                                                               
airports and  the amount  of training that  is required  for each                                                               
person.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:07:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members, stated that the Big Lake  airport is a gravel runway and                                                               
doesn't require  the amount of  sand or chemical  treatments that                                                               
paved  runways do  and  instead ground  crews  are reshaping  the                                                               
runway and  clearing snow.   He  acknowledged that  sometimes the                                                               
crews  are unable  to clear  the runway  as they  are tending  to                                                               
higher  priority  roadways and  mark  the  airport as  closed  or                                                               
unattended.   He alluded that  a dashboard for pilots  to monitor                                                               
which  airports are  open or  closed is  not available  yet.   He                                                               
stated that SWA  is addressing the workforce  challenges by using                                                               
remote training, job sharing, peer  exchanges, and after a recent                                                               
wage adjustment  from a collective bargaining  agreement has seen                                                               
an increase in staffing.   He provided his understanding that the                                                               
vacancy  rate is  improving  and that  most  individuals who  are                                                               
leaving are going to higher paying jobs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:15:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE  returned  to  the presentation  on  slide  7,  titled                                                               
"Federal  Airport  Funding,"  and professed  that  the  increased                                                               
funding from the bipartisan  infrastructure legislation (BIL) has                                                               
been used  mostly to  cover the  increased costs  from inflation.                                                               
The match  rate for SWA  is 5  percent until federal  fiscal year                                                               
2026  (FFY 26)  compared to  the  historic 6.25  percent and  for                                                               
essential air service (EAS) airports  the match rate remains at 5                                                               
percent.   To slide 9, he  broke down the categories  of spending                                                               
between  rural  airports  and AIAS  airports  under  the  Airport                                                               
Improvement Program (AIP) and BIL.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:17:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members, explained that EAS was  created to subsidize communities                                                               
that  were  financially  unreasonable   to  access  after  former                                                               
President Reagan  deregulated the  aviation industry.   He stated                                                               
that Chenega  Bay Airport was the  latest airport to be  added to                                                               
the EAS  list and the Seward  Airport is currently waiting  to be                                                               
added to  the list.  He  explained that the $70  million increase                                                               
in  FFY  26  was  from  discretionary  allocations  and  outpaced                                                               
inflation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:23:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE  transitioned to slide  10 and discussed the  impact of                                                               
grant  obligations  on  construction  timelines in  Alaska.    He                                                               
commented on the  graph presented on slide 11 that  the number of                                                               
grants  has increased  over the  last  six years  but the  former                                                               
projects were larger.   To slide 12, he stated  that the list was                                                               
of all  the upcoming airport projects  in no specific order.   He                                                               
stated  that the  biggest challenge  to deliver  programs is  the                                                               
slow rollout in grants and that  SWA has only received five years                                                               
of  federal funding  twice,  the last  time being  in  2018.   He                                                               
emphasized  that  having  84  percent   of  grants  obligated  in                                                               
September  hinders  construction  due  to  needing  to  transport                                                               
materials during the summer and winter.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:27:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE,  in response to questions  from Representative McCabe,                                                               
used  Kipnuk Airport  as an  example to  describe the  process of                                                               
building  an  airport  project.   He  emphasized  the  amount  of                                                               
preparation  that  is  required to  transport  materials  through                                                               
barges and ice roads.  He  stated that SWA talks to congressional                                                               
delegates and  federal departments  about issues with  the 4-year                                                               
funding cycle.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:31:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE  moved to slide  14 and  stated the sources  of federal                                                               
funding for  AIP come from  cargo entitlements, primary  and non-                                                               
primary  passenger  entitlements,  state  apportionments,  Alaska                                                               
supplemental, discretionary, and  supplemental discretionary.  To                                                               
slide 15,  he stated that Alaska  did not ask for  enough funding                                                               
in    the   2018    Federal    Aviation   Administration    (FAA)                                                               
Reauthorization  but has  seen  significant  improvements in  the                                                               
most recent reauthorization and  requested FAA to acknowledge the                                                               
Cold Weather  Early Start form.   In response to a  question from                                                               
Representative  McCabe, clarified  that  the  Cold Weather  Early                                                               
Start form  has existed for a  long time but nobody  knows how to                                                               
use it.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE  returned to slide 15  and stated that the  FAA weather                                                               
instruments  reporting  is  opaque  about  whether  a  system  is                                                               
functional, so SWA built its  own public dashboard to monitor FAA                                                               
weather systems.   He added that  other states in the  union also                                                               
expressed frustration  with the current monitoring  system and he                                                               
opined  that weather  instruments will  move away  from expensive                                                               
Automated Surface  Observing Systems (ASOS) or  Automated Weather                                                               
Observing Systems (AWOS) to cheaper alternatives.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members, agreed  with Representative McCabe that  aircraft flying                                                               
under instrument flight rules need  to have a weather report from                                                               
ASOS/AWAS systems  to file for a  landing in an airport  and that                                                               
SWA is requesting  a federal aviation regulations  change to ease                                                               
weather  reporting requirements.   He  explained that  in Yakutat                                                               
planes couldn't land due to  the weather system being unavailable                                                               
and recently  an alternative system  to ASOS/AWOS  was installed.                                                               
He clarified  that the  FAA is writing  new regulations  to allow                                                               
non-ASOS/AWOS systems to be used.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:43:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE  transitioned to slide  16 and discussed the  Don Young                                                               
Alaska  Safety Initiative  (DYASI),  which  he emphasized  Alaska                                                               
needs  due  to  the  state  holding 44  percent  of  all  mid-air                                                               
collisions in  the United States.   He  stated that a  section of                                                               
DYASI  prevents  the  FAA from  restricting  funding  to  airport                                                               
rehabilitation,  resurfacing,  or   reconstruction  of  the  full                                                               
length and  width of existing  runways.   To slide 17,  he stated                                                               
the AIP  Handbook restricts many eligibility  requirements due to                                                             
advisory   circulars  changing   from  advisory   to  regulatory.                                                               
Discussions with FAA over changing  the AIP Handbook have brought                                                             
forth the idea to create an Alaska specific handbook.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members,  stated  that  Alaska  has received  some  extension  to                                                               
continue  the use  of leaded  aviation gas  and acknowledged  the                                                               
environmental impact of  the fuel.  He said SWA  is not in charge                                                               
of looking at additional methods  to reduce lead exposure, but is                                                               
supportive of industry changes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE moved  to slide 18 and stated that  new equipment would                                                               
be a  priority purchase if  SWA had  the additional funding.   He                                                               
said  it   is  looking  at  rotating   or  refurbishing  low-hour                                                               
equipment  around the  state and  the biggest  challenge is  long                                                               
lead times and  not receiving Buy America waivers.   To slide 19,                                                               
he discussed  the 22-69  percent increase  in costs  of equipment                                                               
and materials.  To slide  20, he discussed the climate challenges                                                               
and solutions  facing many  rural airports in  Alaska.   To slide                                                               
21,  he  attested  to  the  challenges  of  hiring  new  workers,                                                               
emphasizing electricians,  and that SWA has  improved recruitment                                                               
and retention.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:56:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE, in response to  a question from Representative Stutes,                                                               
said  he did  not  have data  on the  difference  in pay  between                                                               
working for the State of Alaska and private industry.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARUE transitioned  to slide 22 and  discussed the challenges                                                               
with maintaining  the aging and  expensive lighting systems.   In                                                               
response to  a question from Representative  McCabe, provided his                                                               
understanding  that  vandalism  of   lighting  systems  has  been                                                               
reduced to half.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:59:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE moved  to slide  23-24  and stated  that advanced  air                                                               
mobility  in  Alaska  is  improving the  safety  of  the  state's                                                               
airspace.  To  slide 25, he described  the Strengthening Mobility                                                               
and  Revolutionizing Transportation  (SMART) grants  and the  two                                                             
awarded  projects:    Alaska  Rural  Remote  Operations  Workplan                                                               
(ARROW)   and   Scalable    Operations   with   Advanced   Remote                                                               
Technologies (SOAR).   He stated that SOAR  partnered with Native                                                               
and  rural  villages to  improve  mapping  and access  to  tribal                                                               
transportation funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LARUE,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members, stated that the cost  of transporting graders is usually                                                               
not  significant if  the delivery  is  scheduled alongside  other                                                               
projects.   Mission critical incentive  pay was only  provided in                                                               
positions  that  demonstrated  recruitment issues,  which  helped                                                               
reduce  vacancy.    He  affirmed that  airport  rescue  and  fire                                                               
fighting trucks  are required  only in  part 139  airports, which                                                               
serve  aircraft  with  greater  than  30  passenger  seats.    He                                                               
explained  that  Alaska was  able  to  receive some  Buy  America                                                               
waivers during  the COVID-19  pandemic but  is unable  to receive                                                               
more.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:08:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:08 p.m. to 2:16 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:      Overview   and  Update   of   the   Statewide                                                               
Transportation Improvement Program                                                                                              
      PRESENTATION:  Overview and Update of the Statewide                                                                   
               Transportation Improvement Program                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
2:16:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  announced that  the  final  order of  business                                                               
would be the Overview and  Update of the Statewide Transportation                                                               
Improvement Program presentation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE    KEITH,    Deputy   Commissioner,    Department    of                                                               
Transportation  &  Public  Facilities,  began  the  Overview  and                                                               
Update  of  the   Statewide  Transportation  Improvement  Program                                                               
presentation [hard  copy included  in committee packet]  on slide                                                               
10,  titled "Request  for Written  Clarification," and  discussed                                                               
the  communications the  Department  of  Transportation &  Public                                                               
Facilities  (DOT&PF) has  been having  with  the Federal  Highway                                                               
Administration  (FHWA),  Federal  Transit  Administration  (FTA),                                                               
Alaska Railroad Corporation,  metropolitan planning organizations                                                               
(MPO),  and  other  stakeholders  on  correcting  and  clarifying                                                               
various corrective actions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:20:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH,  in  response  to questions  from  various  committee                                                               
members,  explained that  the process  of designating  urban area                                                               
through the U.S.  Census requires the governor's  signature to be                                                               
finalized,  and that  the current  designations  in process  have                                                               
been submitted to DOT&PF in November  2023 and have not been sent                                                               
to the governor  due to minor technical issues.   She stated that                                                               
any  change  to  MPO  boundaries requires  the  approval  of  the                                                               
governor,  and  that DOT&PF  is  working  towards collecting  all                                                               
historical approvals.   She clarified that the  governor does not                                                               
have the  power to dissolve  MPOs as  they are required  to exist                                                               
under  federal law,  and  that  DOT&PF abides  by  the "three  C"                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH returned to the  presentation on slide 17 and discussed                                                               
the communication  with federal partners over  pipeline readiness                                                               
for contracts.   She clarified from the graphs  that the depicted                                                               
decrease  in obligations  is within  normal fluctuations  and the                                                               
decrease  in contract  awards was  intentional from  DOT&PF.   To                                                               
slide 18, she stated that  the contractor payments are increasing                                                               
year-on-year while the  program balance index is  decreasing.  To                                                               
slide  19,  she  explained  that DOT&PF  needs  to  use  advanced                                                               
construction  funds  to   maintain  funding  sustainability  with                                                               
construction.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:42:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOM  PANNONE, Director,  Program  Management and  Administration,                                                               
Department  of   Transportation  &  Public   Facilities,  further                                                               
explained the advantages of using  advanced construction on slide                                                               
19.   To  slide 20,  he  compared the  August redistributions  of                                                               
Alaska to various other states.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE,  in response  to a  question from  Co-Chair Carrick,                                                               
stated  that  DOT&PF received  $19.2  million  out of  the  $71.4                                                               
million it  applied for and  emphasized that the funding  was not                                                               
lost as  it carries  over.   He explained  the delta  between the                                                               
received and applied  funds as DOT&PF did not  have projects that                                                               
met the specific requirements for some funding sources.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH emphasized  that the  discrete fund  sources are  only                                                               
applicable to  certain project goals,  which DOT&PF did  not have                                                               
ready.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:49:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARRICK  commented  that   the  delta  between  funding                                                               
applied for and received was greater  in FFY 24 than any previous                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH, in response to  a question from Representative Stutes,                                                               
stated the lack of funding for  the Cooper Landing bypass was due                                                               
to an  estimated increase in  cost and to allow  smaller projects                                                               
to be awarded.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PANNONE,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Stutes,  described  the delta  between  funding  applied for  and                                                               
received was  caused by DOT&PF  and the FHWA disagreeing  on what                                                               
projects could be completed and various STIP issues.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH, in response to  a question from Representative McCabe,                                                               
stated  that the  new practice  of requiring  projects that  fall                                                               
inside  MPO boundaries  to be  included in  local TIPs  prevented                                                               
some  projects  to  go  forward.   She  stated  that  DOT&PF  has                                                               
received a memo from FHWA that  Alaska is eligible for up to $120                                                               
million for the upcoming year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:57:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   CARRICK,   in   response    to   the   question   from                                                               
Representative McCabe, clarified the  semantics that MPOs are not                                                               
outside  influences and  are  partners  per federal  regulations.                                                               
She  summarized  the  presentation  that  Alaska  does  not  have                                                               
"shovel ready" projects in the scale seen in previous years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES expressed excitement  for the Alaska Marine                                                               
Highway System presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE commented  his  desire  for Advocates  for                                                               
Safe  Alaska  Highways  to  look  at  the  Interior  gas  utility                                                               
vehicles that drive up the Parks Highway.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:59:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR EISCHEID  opined that DOT&PF  should be more  clear with                                                               
the  public about  the funding  situation  as infrastructure  and                                                               
construction jobs are important to residents of Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:01:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:01                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DOTPF Rural Aviation Overview 01.29.25.pdf HTRA 1/30/2025 1:00:00 PM
STIP Update Presentation 01.28.25.pdf HTRA 1/30/2025 1:00:00 PM