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02/23/2023 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION

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01:03:02 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities - Facilities
01:34:24 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities - Statewide Equipment Fleet
02:19:18 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       February 23, 2023                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kevin McCabe, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Sarah Vance, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC                                                                 
FACILITIES - FACILITIES                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC                                                                 
FACILITIES - STATEWIDE EQUIPMENT FLEET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER HODGIN, PE                                                                                                          
Division of Facilities Services                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation on the                                                                
Division of Facilities Services.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JASON SAKALASKAS, Director                                                                                                      
Division of Facilities Services                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the presentation                                                             
on the Division of Facilities Services.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRAD BYLSMA, Equipment Fleet Manager                                                                                            
State Equipment Fleet                                                                                                           
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a  PowerPoint presentation on State                                                             
Equipment Fleet.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KEVIN  MCCABE  called the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 1:02 p.m.   Representatives McKay,                                                               
C.  Johnson, Stutes,  and  McCabe  were present  at  the call  to                                                               
order.   Representatives Mina  and Vance  arrived as  the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): Alaska Department  of Transportation and Public                                                               
Facilities - Facilities                                                                                                         
PRESENTATION(S): Alaska Department of Transportation and Public                                                             
                    Facilities - Facilities                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:03:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
a  presentation by  the Department  of Transportation  and Public                                                               
Facilities on state facilities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER HODGIN,  PE, Division  of Facilities  Services (DFS),                                                               
Department  of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                               
provided a PowerPoint presentation  on the Division of Facilities                                                               
Services  [hard  copy included  in  the  committee packet].    He                                                               
stated that  DFS's mission is  to deliver, improve,  and maintain                                                               
safe and reliable  facilities across Alaska, as seen  on slide 2,                                                               
and he noted  the facilities initiative, as seen on  slide 3.  He                                                               
moved  to slide  4, which  showed  the main  operational hubs  in                                                               
Fairbanks,  Anchorage,  and  Juneau.    He  described  the  staff                                                               
located in  these hubs, as  well as maintenance staff  located in                                                               
more  remote  areas  in  the  state.    He  discussed  the  DFS's                                                               
functional areas and the two  budget components, as seen on slide                                                               
5.   He stated that  the main  budget components are  leasing and                                                               
facilities services.  Under the  facilities services component is                                                               
Statewide Public  Facilities, as  seen on slide  6.   Included in                                                               
this  would  be  architects,   civil  and  mechanical  engineers,                                                               
project manager professionals,  energy professionals, contracting                                                               
professionals, and the construction contracting officer.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN moved  to  slide  7 and  slide  8  and discussed  the                                                               
projects  under  Statewide Public  Facilities.    He stated  that                                                               
these include  both federal  and state  funded programs  that are                                                               
related  to  facility design  and  construction.   He  gave  some                                                               
examples and pointed out the  governing statutes at the bottom of                                                               
the  slide.   He  discussed project  delivery,  which range  from                                                               
small scale projects  to multi-year projects.  He  noted that the                                                               
best  practices for  project management  are  used with  multiple                                                               
project  delivery  methods.   He  moved  to  the next  slide  and                                                               
discussed energy  saving performance contracting, which  allows a                                                               
project to  be financed  and repaid  over time  with a  result in                                                               
savings.  He noted that these  projects have resulted in about 75                                                               
buildings with an annual savings of over $4.2 million.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:09:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN, in response to  a committee question, stated that DFS                                                               
has  done  all  types  of energy  efficiency  projects,  such  as                                                               
lighting upgrades, heating system  upgrades, and renewable energy                                                               
upgrades.   He  stated that  the viability  and longevity  of the                                                               
upgrades are considered when implementing these projects.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:10:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN  moved  to  slide  10  and  11,  addressing  the  DFS                                                               
functional area  of maintenance and  operations.  He  stated that                                                               
the   maintenance  professionals   cover  all   building  trades,                                                               
providing   preventative  and   routine  maintenance,   and  they                                                               
identify deferred maintenance needs.   He discussed the statewide                                                               
programmatic approach  for delivering facilities  maintenance and                                                               
assessing  facility  needs.    He   noted  that  the  maintenance                                                               
professionals do not only serve  DOT&PF facilities, but they also                                                               
serve  other state  departments.   This is  done through  service                                                               
level agreements.  He pointed out  some of the current focuses of                                                               
the maintenance and operations team.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:13:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN, in response to  a committee question, stated that the                                                               
criteria for  a service level  agreement with  another department                                                               
would concern  the geographic  location of  the building  and the                                                               
budget.  He added that if  the other department has any expertise                                                               
in maintaining the  building DFS would not  perform this service.                                                               
If  they  do  not,  this would  justify  DOT&PF  providing  these                                                               
services.   He stated that  the volume  of the work  needed would                                                               
also be considered.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:15:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON  SAKALASKAS,  Director,  Division of  Facilities  Services,                                                               
Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities,  expressed                                                               
the opinion that Mr. Hodgin's response was correct.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:15:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN, on  slide 12,  stated that  the last  two functional                                                               
areas of  DFS is the  administration and leasing components.   He                                                               
stated  that the  administrative team  provides business  support                                                               
tasks.    He  stated  that  the  leasing  team  is  comprised  of                                                               
contracting   officers,   serving   all  the   executive   branch                                                               
departments.  He  continued to slide 13,  which further addressed                                                               
the leasing team's tasks.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN  moved to slide  14 titled,  "Computerized Maintenance                                                               
Management System  (CMMS)."  He  stated that  CMMS is a  tool for                                                               
managing  facilities,  work  orders, assets  in  the  facilities,                                                               
lease  spaces, and  capital improvements  within the  facilities.                                                               
He  stated that  this is  all  done with  an Enterprise  Software                                                               
platform.   He discussed  the available  modules in  the software                                                               
used to manage work orders.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN  pointed out  the high-level  overview summary  of the                                                               
different budget  components, as seen  on the chart on  slide 15.                                                               
This includes  the facilities services  budget component  and the                                                               
leases budget component.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:19:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN,  in response to  a committee question  concerning the                                                               
pass-through leasing,  stated that  the entity would  provide the                                                               
money to DFS as the authority, and DFS would lease the building.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN  moved to  slide  16,  which addressed  DFS's  budget                                                               
authority, with  the chart  breaking this  down into  the various                                                               
funding sources.   He pointed each of the sources  out.  He moved                                                               
to   slide   17,  titled   "Challenges."      He  expressed   the                                                               
understanding  that   other  divisions  are  also   having  these                                                               
challenges,   such  as   recruitment   and  retention,   deferred                                                               
maintenance backlog, rural area  construction, utility costs, and                                                               
the volatility of the construction economy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:22:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN  went  on  to  slide 18  and  showed  a  graph  which                                                               
illustrated the deferred maintenance backlog.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN, in response to  a committee request for some examples                                                               
of  deferred  maintenance,  stated   that  roofing,  siding,  and                                                               
windows  need renewing,  while boilers  and heating  systems need                                                               
replacing.  In  response to a follow-up question,  he stated that                                                               
there is  a priority system.   He  explained that DFS  works with                                                               
the  Office  of  Management  and Budget  (OMB)  and  other  state                                                               
partners on  a facilities council.   He stated that  this council                                                               
has representatives  from each  executive branch  department that                                                               
own  facilities.   He explained  that there  is a  methodology to                                                               
prioritizing deferred  maintenance, and this is  done by creating                                                               
project  index values  to  rank  the projects.    To  do this,  a                                                               
mission alignment  index is used  to determine the  importance of                                                               
the department's facility in meeting  its mission.  He added that                                                               
there are  also factors concerning the  system and the need.   He                                                               
further described  the process.   In response, he  estimated that                                                               
the facilities council  meets quarterly.  He  reiterated that the                                                               
council is  made up of  representatives from the user  groups who                                                               
own facilities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN,  in response to  a committee question  concerning the                                                               
bar chart on  slide 18, stated that the bar  on the far-left side                                                               
of  the  chart  represents  DOT&PF  buildings,  such  as  airport                                                               
buildings  and  equipment buildings.    He  stated that  the  bar                                                               
labeled "DOT&PF PBF" represents state  office buildings.  He gave                                                               
examples of these buildings.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN moved  to slide 19, titled  "Relationships and Goals."                                                               
He discussed the relationship built  through the council and OMB.                                                               
He  discussed  the  goals  of  improving  systems  and  expanding                                                               
successful maintenance practices.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:29:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HODGIN,  in  response to  a  committee  question  concerning                                                               
permanently  stationed staff,  gave  a few  examples of  managers                                                               
that have offices at the facilities they manage.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAKALASKAS answered that DOT&PF  does have personnel stations                                                               
throughout Alaska, but this varies  in regard to whether staff is                                                               
assigned to a  particular building, or whether  they are assigned                                                               
to a hub  location with different buildings.  He  added that this                                                               
varies throughout the state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HODGIN, in response to  a committee question, stated that the                                                               
OMB  divestment initiative  was  from  a few  years  ago, and  it                                                               
concerned divesting facilities with no  use.  He stated that this                                                               
had involved other  departments as well.  A  report was submitted                                                               
to  OMB, and  this  included a  "hand full"  of  facilities.   in                                                               
response to a  request for more information  about the divestment                                                               
of a building  that house snow-removal equipment,  he stated that                                                               
he would report back to the committee on this.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:33:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:33 p.m. to 1:34 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): Alaska Department  of Transportation and Public                                                               
Facilities - Statewide Equipment Fleet                                                                                          
PRESENTATION(S): Alaska Department of Transportation and Public                                                             
             Facilities - Statewide Equipment Fleet                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
1:34:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
a presentation  on the State  Equipment Fleet for  the Department                                                               
of Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BRAD   BYLSMA,    Equipment   Fleet   Manager,    Department   of                                                               
Transportation  and   Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),   provided  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation  on the  State Equipment Fleet  (SEF) for                                                               
DOT&PF [hard  copy included in  the committee packet].   He began                                                               
on  slide 2  which addressed  SEF's operations.   He  pointed out                                                               
that  this is  a shared  service for  all departments  within the                                                               
state.  He stated that most  of the 158 positions in the division                                                               
are mechanics and  technicians, with 54 shops  located across the                                                               
state.   He  added that  there  are 32  support staff  positions,                                                               
which  include  contractors,   parts,  administration,  technical                                                               
support, and managers.   He stated that SEF covers  all facets of                                                               
equipment   and  vehicle   management,  including   purchase  and                                                               
disposal, maintenance,  fuel card management, and  a backup labor                                                               
resource pool for  the different divisions of DOT&PF.   He gave a                                                               
list  of additional  support duties  the resource  pool provides,                                                               
including snow removal and firefighting.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA  moved to slide 3  and showed SEF's mission,  which is                                                               
to provide all state agencies  with safe, economical vehicles and                                                               
equipment  needed to  accomplish  the agencies'  missions.   Also                                                               
shown on the  slide is a breakdown of the  vehicles and equipment                                                               
provided to  departments across the  state.  He pointed  out that                                                               
DOT&PF has  the largest  number of  the fleet  assets.   He noted                                                               
that  SEF does  not manage  snow machines,  all-terrain vehicles,                                                               
planes,  or  boats, as  the  individual  departments will  manage                                                               
these if  they have the  need.  He moved  to slide 4  and pointed                                                               
out that SEF manages the  Highway Equipment Working Capital Fund.                                                               
He stated  that this fund is  used to maintain and  replace fleet                                                               
vehicles.   He  added that  this  fund would  not receive  direct                                                               
appropriations from the  general fund, as the fees  would be paid                                                               
by  the state  agencies.    He added  that  this  rate system  is                                                               
designed to break even.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:39:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA, in  response to  a committee  question, stated  that                                                               
because  the allocation  is per  vehicle, there  would be  a good                                                               
idea of the total cost of each  vehicle.  He stated that there is                                                               
a specific  system to track maintenance  costs, depreciation, and                                                               
capital costs.   In response  to a follow-up question,  he stated                                                               
that the  large snow  blowers are usually  the most  expensive to                                                               
maintain, but this  could vary.  He stated that  the Alaska State                                                               
Trooper pursuit vehicles are run "very  hard," as this is part of                                                               
their mission.   He reiterated that SEF is a  shared service, and                                                               
all executive branch departments  would have fleet vehicles, with                                                               
SEF  providing  the maintenance.    In  response to  a  follow-up                                                               
question, he stated that the  repair service works very much like                                                               
a private-industry car service.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA  moved to slide 5  and reviewed SEF's budget  over the                                                               
last four fiscal years.   He noted that the incremental increases                                                               
on the  operating side are  because of the increase  in personnel                                                               
cost and  the collective  bargaining agreements.   On  the right-                                                               
hand side  of the slide,  he noted the  increase in the  cost for                                                               
equipment.  He pointed out the 50 percent increase for three-                                                                   
quarter  ton crew  cab  trucks, which  are a  large  part of  the                                                               
fleet.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA, in  response to  a committee  question, stated  that                                                               
equipment,  such  as  three-quarter   ton  crew  cab  trucks,  is                                                               
purchased  through  local  venders.   He  said  that  some  major                                                               
manufacturers offer  government discounts, but this  discount has                                                               
been reduced because  of supply-chain issues.  He  moved to slide                                                               
6 and discussed  the cost of replacing equipment  and the current                                                               
backlog.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA, in response to  a committee question, stated that SEF                                                               
sets the  equipment replacement rates  annually, and as  costs go                                                               
up the  rates increase.   He noted that  the chart shows  SEF has                                                               
not had  enough legislative authority  to spend the money  it has                                                               
collected  to replace  equipment.   He added  that recently  this                                                               
authority  has  increased; therefore,  SEF  has  been allowed  to                                                               
address this issue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA continued  to slide  7 and  broke down  the operating                                                               
budget.   He  stated  that half  of the  budget  is dedicated  to                                                               
personnel  costs,  with  another   large  part  going  to  repair                                                               
commodities, such  as tires, oil, and  fuel.  He stated  that the                                                               
fuel is  covered with the  fuel cards  SEF issues.   He discussed                                                               
the fuel cards in further detail.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA, in  response to  a committee  question, stated  that                                                               
SEF's fuel card program allows  anyone driving a state vehicle to                                                               
go  to  a  commercial  filling  station,  as  this  creates  more                                                               
flexibility than going to a state  fueling station.  He noted the                                                               
DOT&PF does have bulk fuel  facilities for its own equipment, and                                                               
this is separate from the budget seen on the slide.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA  moved to slide 8  titled "SEF Challenges New  & Old,"                                                               
which  include historic  workforce  vacancy  rates, supply  chain                                                               
shortages,  cold-weather emissions  and  electronics issues,  and                                                               
maintaining aging facilities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA,  in  response to  a  committee  question,  expressed                                                               
uncertainty  why there  needs to  be emissions  requirements when                                                               
there are no air  quality issues in most of the  state.  He noted                                                               
that  this is  a federal  mandate.   In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question,  he stated  the military  and  emergency vehicles  have                                                               
some limited exemptions concerning the mandate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYLSMA, in  response to  a committee  question, stated  that                                                               
cold-weather   emissions  and   electronics  issues   are  common                                                               
problems  in other  northern states.    He added  that the  cold-                                                               
weather  problem is  not specific  to government  equipment.   He                                                               
pointed out  that part  of the challenge  with the  components in                                                               
newer vehicles  is that they are  difficult to repair.   He added                                                               
that SEF does  communicate with other states on  the cold weather                                                               
issues.   He  remarked that  there are  many positive  aspects to                                                               
newer equipment, as it runs more efficiently and safely.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA, in response to  a committee question, stated that the                                                               
vacancies in  the division are  because of retirement,  but also,                                                               
they are because many people leave for other reasons.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA continued  to slide 9 and discussed  the strategies to                                                               
address the  challenges.  Concerning the  personnel vacancies, he                                                               
said, SEF  is shifting toward  a hub-staffing model, so  staff is                                                               
not always  "on the ground"  in all  locations.  To  address this                                                               
SEF  has  also  created  more   flexibility  in  work  schedules.                                                               
Concerning  the   supply  chain  challenges,  he   said,  damaged                                                               
equipment is  now retained to  be used  for spare parts,  as this                                                               
value exceeds  the disposal value.   He added that now  the parts                                                               
staff searches  for parts  worldwide.  He  noted that  to address                                                               
the issues with emissions and  electronics, SEF is now rebuilding                                                               
older equipment that does not  have the same emission systems and                                                               
standards.  He added that  SEF provides its own warranty services                                                               
for most  major manufacturers of  heavy equipment, as  this saves                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA, in response to  a committee question, stated that for                                                               
the warranty services, SEF's mechanics  do have to be trained for                                                               
this.  He added that the  facility also has to meet requirements.                                                               
There is  also a  process for submitting  the warranty  claim for                                                               
reimbursements.   In response, he  stated that if there  was some                                                               
sort  of  program  to  offer  this to  students,  this  would  be                                                               
welcome; however,  the required training  would still need  to be                                                               
completed before the individual could do the warranty work.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA, in response to  a committee comment on his ingenuity,                                                               
stated that many of the 125  mechanics in the division are career                                                               
mechanics, and it is in their nature to solve problems.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYLSMA, in response to  a committee question, stated that SEF                                                               
does warehouse its  parts, as there are larger  warehouses in the                                                               
hub locations  managed by  parts staff;  however, many  parts are                                                               
bought  on demand  because of  the  variety of  vehicles, and  it                                                               
would  be impossible  to  stock  everything.   In  response to  a                                                               
follow-up  question,  he  stated  that  SEF  has  looked  at  the                                                               
standardization of  vehicles; however,  there is  a large  gap in                                                               
the age of much of the  heavy equipment, and this is difficult to                                                               
standardize.     In  follow  up,  he   expressed  agreement  that                                                               
standardizing some of the fleet would allow for more negotiation                                                                
power.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE gave closing comments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:19                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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