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03/05/2019 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION
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| Confirmation Hearing(s):|| Board of Marine Pilots | |
| Commissioner, Department of Transportation | |
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE
March 5, 2019
1:32 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Louise Stutes, Co-Chair
Representative Adam Wool, Co-Chair
Representative Matt Claman
Representative Harriet Drummond
Representative Dave Talerico
Representative Sara Rasmussen
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Andi Story
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):
Board of Marine Pilots
Edward Sinclair - Juneau
- CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities
John MacKinnon Juneau
- CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
No previous action to record
WITNESS REGISTER
EDWARD SINCLAIR, Appointee
Board of Marine Pilots
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified and answered questions during his
confirmation hearing.
JOHN MACKINNON, Commissioner Designee
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified and answered questions during his
confirmation hearing.
ACTION NARRATIVE
1:32:50 PM
CO-CHAIR LOUISE STUTES called the House Transportation Standing
Committee meeting to order at 1:32 p.m. Representatives
Talerico, Claman, Drummond, Wool, and Stutes were present at the
call to order. Representative Rasmussen arrived as the meeting
was in progress.
The committee took a brief at-ease.
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):
^Board of Marine Pilots
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):
Board of Marine Pilots
1:33:51 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES announced that the first order of business would
be the consideration of Edward Sinclair, Governor's Appointee,
Board of Marine Pilots.
1:34:11 PM
EDWARD SINCLAIR, Appointee, Board of Marine Pilots, provided
testimony to his appointment to the Board of Marine Pilots. Mr.
Sinclair relayed his background as a pilot and member of the
Coast Guard for 20 years, many spent in Alaska. He has been a
member of the Southeast Alaska Pilot's Association Board of
Directors, which he participated in as a representative and as a
fellow pilot. He stated that he believes serving on the board
would be an opportunity to expand his involvement in regulatory
aspects of marine pilotage in Alaska. He opined that state
pilotage continues to need to be recognized out of public
interest in respect to safety, protection of the environment,
and infrastructure. He also stated that it is a system that
facilitates commerce, as pilots must negotiate shipping company
schedules and pressures to "push the risk envelope." Mr.
Sinclair stated that pilots' local area expertise mitigates risk
and contributes to the success of the state, a philosophy he
hopes to bring to the Board of Marine Pilots.
1:35:44 PM
CO-CHAIR WOOL asked if there are any specific regulatory issues
that Mr. Sinclair would give attention to while on the Board.
1:36:00 PM
MR. SINCLAIR discussed his interest in and concern about the
introduction of "mega" cruise ships to Alaska. He stated that
Southeast pilots, in conjunction with pilots throughout the
state, have been proactive in identifying the ships' special
needs and the risks that they pose to the waterways. The pilots
have conducted studies and evaluated the ships over the last two
years. Mr. Sinclair suggested that the Board of Marine Pilots
could have a role in the regulatory aspects of the cruise ships
use of waterways.
1:36:56 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN described his impression that the Marine
Pilots Association "runs pretty well" and is a generally
uncontroversial group. Representative Claman asked if that was
a fair description.
1:37:22 PM
MR. SINCLAIR agreed with Representative Claman assessment. He
noted that a problem for Southeast and potentially other regions
is attracting strong candidates. Mr. Sinclair stated that this
year's training program has quite a few strong applicants. Mr.
Sinclair noted that other regions often had difficulty eliciting
strong candidates; he believes that this problem has been
resolved due to increased interest in the occupation.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked if, in addition to this position,
Mr. Sinclair is actively working as a marine pilot.
MR. SINCLAIR stated that yes, he intends to stay an active
pilot. He described the differing work load between the winter
and summer season. The winter work load is voluntary and on-
call, while the majority of work occurs in the summer.
1:38:44 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked for clarification on the type of licensing
required to be a marine pilot.
1:38:53 PM
MR. SINCLAIR stated that a marine pilot must have a U.S. Coast
Guard (USCG) mariner's license; the regulations are varied
depending on sea time. He stated that a marine pilot then works
to achieve his/her federal pilotage, which requires the study of
the waterways and familiarization trips. Mr. Sinclair said
that an applicant must then, under the observation of USCG, draw
the charts from memory and describe the waterways and typical
challenges encountered; Southeast Alaska has about 30 waterways
that must be drawn. After that, an applicant must begin the
state training process where he/she must complete 100
"evolutions," later referred to as maneuvers. Next, an
applicant must take the state local knowledge exam, administered
by the Board of Marine Pilots. After successful exam
completion, a pilot gets his/her initial license. As more sea
time is accrued each subsequent year, pilots can work towards an
unlimited license from the state.
1:40:11 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if a pilot's licensure is limited to the
specific area for which he/she is tested.
MR. SINCLAIR confirmed Co-Chair Stutes' understanding and
elucidated upon a pilot's ability to work multiple regions at
one time.
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked Mr. Sinclair for further explanation.
MR. SINCLAIR stated that he was unsure why there are limitations
to region specific licensure. He suggested that it could be
intended to ensure a pilot is specialized in a specific area.
1:40:59 PM
CO-CHAIR WOOL asked about the difficulty of the process for a
pilot to change regions.
1:41:20 PM
MR. SINCLAIR stated that there is a learning curve. There are
provisions in training requirements that account for the prior
experience that these pilots have. They are required to go
through the first steps of federal pilotage, including the
drawing of charts.
1:42:01 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony. After
ascertaining that no one wished to testify, she closed
public testimony.
The confirmation of Edward Sinclair to the Board of Marine
Pilots was advanced to the joint session of the House and Senate
for consideration. Although not stated on the record, signing
the reports regarding appointments to boards and commissions in
no way reflects individual members' approval or disapproval of
the appointees, and that the nominations are merely forwarded to
the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.
^Commissioner, Department of Transportation
Department of Transportation Commissioner
1:42:54 PM
1:42:32 PM
JOHN MACKINNON, Commissioner Designee, Department of
Transportation & Public Facilities (DOTPF), relayed his
personal, professional, and public service background.
Commissioner MacKinnon noted that in 2003 he was appointed by
Governor Frank Murkowski to the Deputy Commissioner of DOTPF
position, which he served in until 2008. He stated that after
this position, he took a position with the Associated General
Contractors of Alaska (AGC). Commissioner MacKinnon shared his
prior experience advocating for various industries, involving
the rules and regulations of infrastructure development.
Commissioner MacKinnon shared his personal philosophy about the
role of governmental oversight and management, summarized as
"how to get the yes. He described the details of road and
infrastructure management. He also provided metrics on roads,
personnel, airports, number of operating ferries, et cetera,
that differentiate Alaska from other states.
1:48:50 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if the 5,600 miles of roads in Alaska,
mentioned by Commissioner MacKinnon in his testimony, included
the Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS).
1:48:59 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that no, that number included
roads only located on land. He followed by stating that there
are approximately 3,300 miles of ferry routes.
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if the number of buildings mentioned in
Commissioner MacKinnon's statement included ferry terminals.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON responded affirmatively.
1:49:34 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked if Commissioner MacKinnon would have
difficulty separating his prior role as an advocate for the
construction industry from his hypothetical role as an advocate
for DOTPF.
1:50:07 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he did not think so. In his
prior experience, upon joining AGC, he didn't have difficulty
transitioning roles. He stated that his priority is to expedite
project completion, which is facilitated by strong relationships
between the builders and management on the DOTPF side.
1:52:05 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if Commissioner MacKinnon supports
Governor Dunleavy's proposed cuts to AMHS.
1:52:19 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he works for the governor and
that this budget has been prepared by the Office of Management
and Budget (OMB). He relayed that he would manage the
department with the resources allocated by the legislature.
Commissioner MacKinnon stated that he does not agree with every
administration's decisions, but that he does agree with
"what...[his] employer's doing."
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if Commissioner MacKinnon has visited the
AMHS headquarters and, in conversation, asked if he had the
intent to visit.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON said that no, he has not visited. He
then relayed that he planned to visit at some point in the next
two weeks.
1:53:14 PM
CO-CHAIR WOOL asked if, compared to his previous tenure with
DOTPF, there were any new challenges Commissioner MacKinnon
could foresee.
1:53:33 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that the challenges are similar,
with a few new elements. He noted that there is now a larger
regulatory climate and that, while there's increased funding,
federal requirements introduce constraints. Commissioner
MacKinnon said he finds high turnover bothersome. He attributes
it to demographics, the challenge of hiring qualified
technicians, greater competition, and higher compensation in the
private sector.
CO-CHAIR WOOL asked Commissioner McKinnon if he sees any
potential issues with defined benefits or defined contributions
with respect to employees holding different tiers.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON opined that it could be an issue. He
described how, while working at AGC he became a trustee on a
labor union pension and health trust. The group turned the
defined benefit plan into a hybrid plan, described as a
partially defined benefit/partially defined contribution.
Commissioner MacKinnon stated that it is not an either/or
decision, but that DOTPF may be able to get the best of both
options without creating risk.
1:56:30 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES stated that the residency requirement for the
Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) is set in statute. She asked
Commissioner MacKinnon if he was aware that the department uses
an individual's submission of an application for the permanent
fund dividend (PFD) as criteria for receipt of COLA, as opposed
to residency requirements stated in statute.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he was not aware that DOTPF
was using submission of the PFD application to determine
eligibility for COLA.
CO-CHAIR STUTES stated that it is distressing to those who
choose not to apply to the PFD and are subsequently denied COLA
benefits.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON concurred.
1:57:54 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN relayed a constituent concern about the
lack of lighting on Jewel Lake Road and concern that DOTPF is
not going to install additional lighting. Representative Claman
asked if DOTPF was planning to pay for that lighting and, if
not, why not.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that, due to classification of the
road, DOTPF did not install continuous lighting when it was
rebuilt but installed lighting at accident prone intersections.
Commissioner MacKinnon stated that DOTPF offered to collaborate
with the municipality and "roughen the electrical to
accommodate the installation of lighting at a later date.
Commissioner MacKinnon stated that to the best of his knowledge
an agreement had not been maintained.
2:00:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked if it was a matter of state or
federal law that would require an agreement upon which entity
would be responsible for payment. Representative Claman also
asked if it could be a matter of a funding allocation made by
the Legislature.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that it's not a matter of law but
a matter of a mutual agreement. Commissioner MacKinnon
suggested adding it to the Anchorage municipality's revenue
sharing agreement. He stated that DOTPF does not want to take
on any greater operating expense than necessary.
2:01:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND disclosed that she worked for AGC while
Commissioner MacKinnon was the executive director.
Representative Drummond asked Commissioner MacKinnon what he
considered to be DOTPF's highest priority project over the next
four years.
2:02:25 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON answered that priorities change based on
circumstances. He referenced a project on the Kenai Peninsula -
the Cooper Landing Bypass - which was "on the slow roll for
years" and had the longest environmental impact statement in
history. Commissioner MacKinnon stated that, about a month ago,
DOTPF put a special project delivery team focus on the project,
which reduced the construction schedule by six years. He
stated that the project wasn't a priority two years ago, but it
is now. Circumstances have changed, such as rock fall on the
Seward Highway. The department has responded and "put [this] in
the fast lane," reallocating funds to do so. Commissioner
MacKinnon stated that priorities change depending on events and
on politics.
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked if the Cooper Landing Bypass is
scheduled for construction in the future.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON said that there is a development plan for
the Cooper Landing Bypass. There is a right-of-way acquisition
from the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) and from Fish and Wildlife
Service. Commissioner MacKinnon noted, in reference to "the
politics in D.C.," it is important to come to agreement with the
previously mentioned agencies in the next 21 months.
2:06:41 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked about the role of Reuben Yost in the
DOTPF.
2:06:47 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON answered that Reuben Yost is a former
DOTPF Deputy Commissioner. He stated that Mr. Yost is under
contract as a special projects manager and to provide advice for
AMHS and labor contracts.
CO-CHAIR STUTES offered her understanding that Mr. Yost had been
given a state office. She asked if that was correct and if Mr.
Yost is giving direction to AMHS.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that any direction Mr. Yost gives
to AMHS goes through himself or through Deputy Commissioner
Siroky. In follow up, Commissioner MacKinnon stated that Mr.
Yost's position includes contract negotiation and that he and
Mr. Yost meet on a regular basis.
2:08:00 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RASMUSSEN revisited the Jewel Lake Road lighting
issue previously addressed by Representative Claman. She noted
that other roads might have similar lighting situations and
asked if those roads also have elementary schools and pedestrian
traffic of children. Representative Rasmussen also brought
forward a constituent concern about the widening of the road,
noting that people often travel at higher speeds on widened
roads. She asked if there is a way to be proactive in
ameliorating these concerns.
2:09:23 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON answered that the public input process
would allow for concerns and feedback to guide the design
process. The department assists with the design and considers
traffic counts and various variables when determining the speed
limit. Commissioner MacKinnon agreed that Jewel Lake is a wider
road to accommodate cars pulling over and snow pile-up in the
winter, but he said he "doesn't know what to do geometry-wise
to change driver behavior.
REPRESENTATIVE RASMUSSEN asked if the department may consider
installing speed bumps in the intersection closer to the school
to increase safety.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON replied that speed bumps could be an
option. He qualified that by stating that once installed, speed
bumps are difficult to remove. He also stated that for every
single person that wants them there are five people that do not.
2:11:29 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES stated that the proposed Juneau access road
would link to property in which Commissioner MacKinnon has
ownership. The proposed road would raise the property value,
lower transportation costs, and extend mining activity on
Commissioner MacKinnon's property. Co-Chair Stutes stated that
the lease with Kensington mine explicitly provides for royalties
above the minimum payment based on a percentage of the net
returns from extractions on his property. Co-Chair Stutes asked
how, after taking the necessary steps to recuse himself,
Commissioner MacKinnon would avoid a conflict of interest.
2:12:05 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON responded that he would recuse himself
from the project and the decision-making process behind the
project or another project that could impact the profitability
of the Kensington mine. Commissioner MacKinnon relayed that he
has a 10 percent stake in the company that owns the property
where the mine was built and that any royalties from the mine
are not based on net profit, but on a gross return.
2:13:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO stated that while Commissioner MacKinnon
was the deputy commissioner, he took a very active role in
engaging with the community on the State Transportation
Improvement Plan. Representative Talerico stated that in the
last few years, the input of the local communities has not been
as welcome as it had been during Commissioner MacKinnon's
tenure. Representative Talerico asked if it would be possible
to return to the level of community engagement of the mid-2000s.
2:14:10 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he was not aware that there
had been less community involvement. He stated that he hoped to
increase involvement going forward. He related that he takes an
active role but does delegate some responsibility to his
regional directors, on whom he relies to keep a pulse on
community feedback.
2:16:02 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked whether Commissioner MacKinnon would
be able to serve in his role and manage AMHS consistent with the
legislature's appropriation, if the legislature were to allocate
the same amount of funding to AMHS as it did for the current
fiscal year.
2:16:47 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON confirmed that he would and added that
the entity needed greater authority. He stated that AMHS needs
to operate with a "business mindset." He suggested increasing
fares slowly over time and the addition of dynamic pricing, i.e.
increasing prices of ferry tickets at times of higher demand.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN mentioned proposals to establish a marine
highway fund, which would create a "mini permanent fund" with
the intent of supporting AMHS. Representative Claman asked if
Commissioner MacKinnon was familiar with those proposals and, if
so, if he could share his perspective and describe how those
funds might accommodate long-term planning for AMHS.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that the vessel replacement fund
has been very successful. He stated that if AMHS is going to
continue to operate, then it must be adequately supported with
capital. He stated that a model under consideration involved
the construction of road segments linked by ferry shuttles.
Commissioner MacKinnon referenced the success of the Inter-
Island Ferry Authority (IFA) in southern Southeast Alaska.
2:20:14 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES sought clarification on the level of state
subsidies that support the operating of the IFA.
2:20:24 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that there is, and always has
been, a subsidy, but he did not know the amount of the subsidy.
CO-CHAIR STUTES stated that the IFA is hugely subsidized except
for a portion of the transportation expenses, which also
receives some subsidy. Co-Chair Stutes asked, on behalf of
another member, if Commissioner MacKinnon has an update on the
Juneau Access Road.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he did not. He stated that
he was briefed on the status a few months ago and was aware that
the previous administration chose the "no-build alternative" due
to cost and controversy. He stated that this option satisfied
certain requirements and settled potential payback provisions
with the federal government.
2:22:33 PM
CO-CHAIR WOOL revisited the freeze/thaw cycle that Commissioner
MacKinnon had previously discussed. He stated that in a
presentation given during a previous legislative session, the
committee learned that the largest costs to the state would
occur from damage to infrastructure and highways rather than the
relocation of coastal communities. He asked if Commissioner
MacKinnon was planning for an increased need for road
maintenance, particularly in Alaska's Interior.
2:23:27 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON relayed that he is familiar with the
effects of permafrost on the highway system. He stated that the
melting of permafrost could be happening at an increased rate
but that he is not familiar with current statistics.
CO-CHAIR WOOL asked about Commissioner MacKinnon's impression of
the brining project that occurred in Fairbanks.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON described a distinction between snow
removal and snow management and described how spreading of a
thin layer of brine prior to snow fall facilitates snow removal.
2:26:01 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES referenced a previous conversation with
Commissioner MacKinnon about a request for proposal (RFP) for
the privatization of AMHS. She asked if he was familiar with
the North Wind Canal Ferry Authority or the consideration of a
private group to operate the Tazlina or Hubbard ferry. Co-Chair
Stutes also asked if he has been involved with the Southeast
Municipal Conference League, which has pursued the previously
mentioned changes to AMHS.
2:26:56 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that the RFP was in response to
the Governor's directive to do a two-part analysis of AMHS. He
stated that the purpose of the RFP is to consider options for
reshaping AMHS, not to privatize the whole system. Commissioner
MacKinnon stated that one option is a public/private
partnership. He offered to send the RFP to Representative
Stutes. He referenced Southeast Conference's plan and noted
that AMHS would, under the proposal, require a "considerable
state subsidy.
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked Commissioner MacKinnon if he believed if
AMHS could operate without a state subsidy.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON answered no.
2:28:30 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RASMUSSEN asked Commissioner MacKinnon to
describe his impression of the Port of Anchorage infrastructure.
2:28:50 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that DOTPF is charged with
maintaining, owning, and operating transportation
infrastructure. He said that the state owns a lot of roads
within the municipality, more than is customary. Commissioner
MacKinnon suggested that, considering the other facilities under
DOTPF's ownership, it is odd that the department does not own
the port. He then relayed that those were his personal
thoughts.
REPRESENTATIVE RASMUSSEN asked how the State of Alaska would pay
for the estimated $2,000,000,000 in damage.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he had not read the report
that Representative Rasmussen was referencing. He suggested
that there are likely alternative methods for repair that are
less expensive. He stated that funding to fix the port could be
generated through user fees.
2:31:42 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if Commissioner MacKinnon or the
administration has had any discussion with the federal
government as to the possibility of repercussions to the state
for closing AMHS.
2:32:05 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that there have been conversations
but that they have not received any definitive answers.
2:32:16 PM
CO-CHAIR WOOL sought clarification as to DOTPF's potential
acquisition of ports around the state or if port ownership and
operation is delegated to the municipality.
2:32:32 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON clarified that the state does have an
interest in the Alaska railroad and that, through this entity,
the state owns pieces of the Seward dock, 30-plus ferry
facilities, and portions of the Whittier [tunnel].
CO-CHAIR WOOL revisited Commissioner MacKinnon's comparison of
Alaska to Vermont as having roughly the same amount of road
miles and population. He asked if Commissioner MacKinnon knew
the cost per road mile per capita for Vermont.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON stated that he did not know. He said
that the metric depends on which highway is used due to
differences in the level of traffic.
CO-CHAIR WOOL sought greater clarity on the cost per road mile
per capita.
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON reiterated that he did not know.
2:35:27 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES asked if Commissioner MacKinnon supports the
Alaska Port and Harbor grant program.
2:35:38 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNON confirmed his support of the program and
stated that it was developed during his previous tenure.
2:36:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND referenced HB61, filed by the governor,
and stated that it would repeal many projects for which the
DOTPF is responsible. She asked Commissioner MacKinnon to
explain the department's obligations under the bill and provide
background and justification for its proposed repeals.
Representative Drummond followed by stating that the bill would
repeal statutes that provide for reimbursement for the cost of
the University of Alaska's capital projects, municipal projects,
and power projects.
2:36:49 PM
COMMISSIONER MACKINNNON stated that there are a couple projects
that DOTPF has an obligation or agreement to reimburse.
2:37:39 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES read the following paragraphs of AS 19.65.050:
(a)(1) the Alaska marine highway system is an essential part of
the state transportation system, and that it warrants continued
and predictable state support; (a)(4) efficient and prudent
management of the system will benefit the state's economy and
foster economic development; (b)(4) provide for predictability
and stability in the service level furnished to communities
served by the system. Co-Chair Stutes then emphasized the
imperative nature of AMHS to Commissioner MacKinnon.
2:38:37 PM
CO-CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony on the confirmation
hearing for John MacKinnon, Commissioner-Designee to DOTPF.
After ascertaining that no one wished to testify, she closed
public testimony.
2:38:52 PM
The confirmation of John MacKinnon as Commissioner to the
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities was advanced to
the joint session of the House and Senate for consideration.
Although not stated on the record, signing the reports regarding
the appointment of the Commissioner to DOTPF in no way reflects
individual members' approval or disapproval of the appointee,
and the nomination is merely forwarded to the full legislature
for confirmation or rejection.
2:39:46 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 2:39 p.m. to 2:41 p.m.
2:41:36 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Transportation Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:42 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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| Edward Sinclair_Redacted.pdf |
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| John MacKinnon Resume.pdf |
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