Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

04/15/2021 03:00 PM STATE AFFAIRS

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Heard & Held
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+= HB 55 PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIRE BENEFITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 55 Out of Committee
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 15, 2021                                                                                         
                           3:04 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins, Chair                                                                                   
Representative Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative James Kaufman                                                                                                    
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                               
"An Act relating  to participation of certain  peace officers and                                                               
firefighters  in the  defined  benefit  and defined  contribution                                                               
plans  of  the Public  Employees'  Retirement  System of  Alaska;                                                               
relating to  eligibility of peace  officers and  firefighters for                                                               
medical, disability,  and death  benefits; relating  to liability                                                               
of  the  Public  Employees'  Retirement  System  of  Alaska;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 55 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 63                                                                                                               
"An   Act  relating   to  the   duties  of   the  Department   of                                                               
Transportation and Public Facilities;  renaming the Alaska Marine                                                               
Transportation   Advisory  Board   the   Alaska  Marine   Highway                                                               
Operations Board;  relating to the  membership and duties  of the                                                               
Alaska  Marine Highway  Operations  Board; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  55                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIRE BENEFITS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) JOSEPHSON                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/15/21                                                                               
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02/18/21       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
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BILL: HB  63                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STUTES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/15/21                                                                               
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       TRA, STA                                                                                               
03/11/21       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/11/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/11/21       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/18/21       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/18/21       (H)       Moved CSHB 63(TRA) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/18/21       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/20/21       (H)       TRA RPT CS(TRA) NT 4DP 2NR                                                                             
03/20/21       (H)       DP:    DRUMMOND,   HANNAN,    SPOHNHOLZ,                                                               
                         HOPKINS                                                                                                
03/20/21       (H)       NR: MCCABE, CRONK                                                                                      
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KERRY CROCKER, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  on HB  63,  answered                                                             
questions on behalf of Representative Stutes, prime sponsor.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB CARPENTER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  on HB  63,  answered                                                             
questions from committee members.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SANDON FISHER, Attorney                                                                                                         
Legislative Legal Services                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  on HB  63,  answered                                                             
questions from committee members.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JONATHAN KREISS-TOMKINS  called  the  House State  Affairs                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:04   p.m.                                                               
Representatives Tarr, Vance, Story,  Claman, Eastman, and Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins  were  present at  the  call  to order.    Representative                                                               
Kaufman arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        HB  55-PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIRE BENEFITS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:06:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that the first  order of business                                                               
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 55,  "An Act relating to participation of                                                               
certain peace  officers and firefighters  in the  defined benefit                                                               
and  defined   contribution  plans   of  the   Public  Employees'                                                               
Retirement  System of  Alaska; relating  to eligibility  of peace                                                               
officers  and firefighters  for  medical,  disability, and  death                                                               
benefits;  relating   to  liability  of  the   Public  Employees'                                                               
Retirement  System  of Alaska;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS invited comments from committee members.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  believed that  a new retirement  system was                                                               
desperately needed  in many areas of  state government, including                                                               
teachers and  public employees.   She  expressed her  support for                                                               
moving the  proposed legislation  from committee and  opined that                                                               
implementing  defined benefits  would help  with recruitment  and                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR noted  that when  the commissioner  designee                                                               
for  the Department  of  Public  Safety (DPS)  was  in the  House                                                               
Special   Committee  on   Tribal   Affairs   (HTRB)  to   discuss                                                               
comprehensive  public safety  issues,  he specifically  mentioned                                                               
that fixing the  retirement system was an  absolute necessity for                                                               
recruitment and  retention.   The commissioner  designee conveyed                                                               
that there were  only 52 Village Public  Safety Officers (VPSOs);                                                               
however,  the goal  was  to  have 120.    Additionally, 36  State                                                               
Trooper positions  were filled,  but 33  were lost  to retirement                                                               
and attrition.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   expressed  his  appreciation   for  the                                                               
current language  in the  proposed legislation.   He said  he was                                                               
interested  to  see how  it  progressed  through the  legislative                                                               
process.   He  shared his  belief that  the tools,  by which  the                                                               
[retirement]  package would  be  adjusted  for inflation,  should                                                               
receive  higher scrutiny  as  a season  of  higher inflation  was                                                               
approaching.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  expressed   concern  about  the  defined                                                               
benefit plan  creating a  future obligation.   He  suggested that                                                               
other  areas   of  dissatisfaction   were  more   significant  to                                                               
retention, including improvements in  leadership and culture.  He                                                               
opined that  the proposed legislation  was attempting to  fix the                                                               
wrong  concern.   He  said  he would  have  preferred that  other                                                               
departmental issues were focused on first.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  welcomed  an opportunity  to  address  the                                                               
issues  that Representative  Kaufman  had mentioned.   He  opined                                                               
that the  proposed legislation  was extremely  well crafted.   He                                                               
said  as a  younger person,  he was  drawn to  retirement systems                                                               
that made  public servants and  retirees "whole" in  a reasonable                                                               
way and provided  a certain amount of security  and dignity while                                                               
remaining cautious  about the potential  of liabilities  that the                                                               
state would  assume.   He asserted  that on  an intergenerational                                                               
basis, previous  retirement systems had been  grossly inequitable                                                               
to younger generations that  were disproportionately paying older                                                               
generations' retirements.  He expressed  his appreciation for the                                                               
risk aversion that was included  in this legislation and surmised                                                               
that  the  bill  would  be  intergenerationally  equitable  while                                                               
remaining fair to retirees.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:12:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN moved  to report  HB 55  out of  committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  Without  objection, HB 55 was moved from  the House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         HB  63-ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:12:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that the final  order of business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  63, "An Act  relating to the  duties of                                                               
the Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities; renaming                                                               
the  Alaska  Marine  Transportation  Advisory  Board  the  Alaska                                                               
Marine Highway  Operations Board; relating to  the membership and                                                               
duties  of  the  Alaska  Marine  Highway  Operations  Board;  and                                                               
providing  for an  effective date."   [Before  the committee  was                                                               
CSHB 63(TRA).]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS prefaced the  consideration of amendments by                                                               
explaining  that several  amendments [Amendment  8 and  Amendment                                                               
"G.17"] would  no longer  be offered; further,  he noted  that he                                                               
and Representative Kaufman were co-sponsoring Amendment 12.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE moved  to  adopt Amendment  1, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\G.1, Fisher, 3/29/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 12, following "state":                                                                                        
          Insert ", and no more than two of whom may be                                                                         
          members, or retired members, of a union that                                                                          
       represents employees of the Alaska marine highway                                                                        
     system"                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 24, through page 3, line 3:                                                                                   
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
               "(5)  two public members, at least one of                                                                        
     whom has experience in business and finance, appointed                                                                     
     by the speaker of the  house of representatives and who                                                                    
     serve at  the pleasure of  the speaker of the  house of                                                                    
     representatives;                                                                                                           
               (6)  two public members, at least one of                                                                         
     whom has experience in  business and finance, appointed                                                                    
     by the  president of  the senate and  who serve  at the                                                                    
     pleasure of the president of the senate."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:15:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE explained  that Amendment  1 would  provide                                                               
diverse experience  and a range  of competency by  allowing union                                                               
membership  on the  board [the  Alaska Marine  Highway Operations                                                               
Board].   She  noted that  no  more than  two of  the nine  board                                                               
members could be union representatives.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN noted  that  Amendment 5  [which had  not                                                               
been offered yet] included elements  to ensure that board members                                                               
would be competent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKIINS  asked  Mr.  Crocker  to  share  the  bill                                                               
sponsor's perspective on Amendment 1.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:17:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY CROCKER, Staff, Representative  Louise Stutes, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Stutes, remarked:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     We don't  understand or necessarily agree  that being a                                                                    
     union member or ... retiring  from a union ... why that                                                                    
     would preclude  you from  serving on  the board  or why                                                                    
     that  would disqualify  you from  serving on  the board                                                                    
     given the parameters of choosing the board.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN noted that his objection was maintained.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE clarified  that Amendment 1 would  in no way                                                               
preclude union members from serving  on the board.  She explained                                                               
that the  proposed amendment stated  that no more than  two union                                                               
representatives  could  sit  on  the board  to  allow  for  other                                                               
members of the public to  provide representation from alternative                                                               
perspectives.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:18:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives Vance  and Eastman                                                               
voted in favor  of the adoption of Amendment  1.  Representatives                                                               
Tarr, Story,  Claman, Kaufman,  and Kreiss-Tomkins  voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:19:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY moved  to  adopt Amendment  2, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\G.2, Fisher, 4/1/21, which read:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 3:                                                                                                            
          Delete "January 1, 2022"                                                                                              
          Insert "July 1, 2021"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  believed Amendment 2 was  important because                                                               
"members"  across the  state wanted  this plan  to be  completed.                                                               
She expressed  her hope  that the  proposed legislation  would be                                                               
implemented  as soon  as possible  so the  new board  could start                                                               
working at the beginning of [FY 22].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  suggested   that  [the  effective  date]                                                               
should coincide with when legislators were in session.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  opined that [the board]  could begin before                                                               
the  legislature was  in session.    She believed  it would  work                                                               
smoothly.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS   questioned  what  would  happen   if  the                                                               
proposed legislation  failed to pass  this session.   He gathered                                                               
that  if  that  were  to  happen, the  effective  date  could  be                                                               
revised.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY,  in  response to  Representative  Kaufman,                                                               
said she  appreciated his  concern about  timing.   She expressed                                                               
her  hope that  the legislature  recognized the  urgency of  this                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:21:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  for the  sponsor's  perspective  on                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER relayed that the  sponsor was supportive of Amendment                                                               
2 and emphasized the importance of "[getting] the ball rolling."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked for the Department  of Transportation                                                               
&  Public  Facilities'  (DOT&PF's) perspective  on  amending  the                                                               
effective date to July 1, 2021.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:22:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB CARPENTER,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
DOT&PF, said he  had no problem with the  proposed effective date                                                               
or  an  immediate effective  date.    He  agreed that  [a  sooner                                                               
effective date would be better].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked for a  clearer picture of what would                                                               
happen if the bill were to pass  after July 1, 2021.  He inquired                                                               
about the  timeline for appointing  members and getting  the work                                                               
started.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER indicated  that  he  was not  entirely  sure.   He                                                               
explained  that it  would take  time to  establish a  "recruiting                                                               
mechanism" to identify and vet  potential board members; further,                                                               
there would  need to  be an appointment  process.   He reiterated                                                               
that the  sooner the legislation  was effective, the  sooner that                                                               
process could begin.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN questioned how  much time would be allowed                                                               
for the  appointment process if the  bill were to pass  after the                                                               
effective date  of July 1, 2021.   He asked when  the board would                                                               
be required to have members.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER said he did not  understand the question.  He asked                                                               
Representative Eastman to rephrase it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:25:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN proposed  a  scenario in  which the  bill                                                               
passed  on August  1, 2021,  with an  effective date  of July  1,                                                               
2021.  He questioned what  the timeframe would be for identifying                                                               
recruitments,  vetting candidates,  appointing  members, and  the                                                               
[first] board meeting.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER suggested  deferring the  question to  Legislative                                                               
Legal Services, Legislative Affairs Agency  (LAA).  He shared his                                                               
understanding that  the proposed  legislation did not  identify a                                                               
recruitment timeline or recruitment processes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  questioned how  the 30-day  vacancy filling                                                               
requirement would  be reconciled  under a  scenario in  which the                                                               
proposed legislation  was passed  after the  effective date.   He                                                               
asked if that clarified what Representative Eastman had asked.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN said he was  attempting to clarify whether                                                               
the  candidates  had  to be  identified,  vetted,  and  appointed                                                               
within 30 days or less.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  said it was  unlikely that  the legislature                                                               
would pass  a bill with an  effective date that was  prior to the                                                               
date of  passage; nonetheless,  he directed  the question  to Mr.                                                               
Fisher for further comment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:27:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDON  FISHER,   Attorney,  Legislative  Legal   Services,  LAA,                                                               
offered  his services  if the  legislature were  to consider  the                                                               
proposed legislation after its effective  date.  He noted that it                                                               
would  not  be  difficult  to  update the  effective  date.    He                                                               
explained that  an interested party could  require the appointing                                                               
authority  to comply  with the  statute  via court  order if  the                                                               
appointing  authority had  failed  to follow  the requirement  to                                                               
fill a  vacancy within 30 days,  as outlined in Section  4 of the                                                               
bill                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:29:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FISHER,  in  response  to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Eastman  regarding  vacancies,  confirmed   that  the  steps  for                                                               
filling a vacancy must be completed  within 30 days per Section 4                                                               
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:29:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   VANCE  proposed   a   conceptual  amendment   to                                                               
Amendment 2, such  that the effective date would  be changed from                                                               
July 1, 2021, to effective immediately.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  explained that an immediate  effective date                                                               
required  a two-thirds  vote in  both the  House and  the Senate,                                                               
which is why she preferred the effective date of July 1, 2021.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  shared his understanding  that regardless                                                               
of the effective date, an  effective date clause is what required                                                               
a two-thirds vote.  He asked if that was correct.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  understood that  any effective  date clause                                                               
required  a  two-thirds  vote  otherwise  the  legislation  would                                                               
become effective 90 days after passage by default.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. FISHER believed  that an immediate effective  date required a                                                               
supermajority  vote.   He  offered  to follow  up  on the  voting                                                               
specifics of effective date clauses.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  proposed that  Amendment  2  be set  aside                                                               
until the committee ascertained that information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked Representative Story if  she would be                                                               
willing to withdraw Amendment 2.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY replied  in  the  affirmative and  withdrew                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:32:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  moved to  adopt Amendment 3,  labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.3, Fisher, 4/5/21, which read:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Highway"                                                                                                    
          Insert "Transportation"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 4:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Highway"                                                                                                    
          Insert "Transportation"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 10 - 11:                                                                                                     
          Delete    "Highway   Operations    [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY]"                                                                                                                 
          Insert "Transportation Operations [ADVISORY]"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13, through page 2, line 1:                                                                                   
          Delete    "Highway   Operations    [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY]"                                                                                                                 
         Insert "Transportation Operations [ADVISORY]"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 6 - 7:                                                                                                       
          Delete    "Highway   Operations    [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY]"                                                                                                               
         Insert "Transportation Operations [ADVISORY]"                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 8 - 9:                                                                                                       
          Delete    "Highway   Operations    [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY]"                                                                                                                 
         Insert "Transportation Operations [ADVISORY]"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 27:                                                                                                           
          Delete    "Highway   Operations    [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY]"                                                                                                                 
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REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  explained that  Amendment 3  would change                                                               
the board's name from the  Alaska Marine Highway Operations Board                                                               
to  the  Alaska  Marine  Transportation  Operations  Board.    He                                                               
reasoned  that  AMHS  would  not  be  garnishing  scenic  highway                                                               
funding in  the future,  as it  had not been  eligible in  over a                                                               
decade.  Additionally, he believed  that the board's scope should                                                               
not  be limited  to AMHS.   Therefore,  he posited  that "Highway                                                               
Operations" should be replaced with "Transportation Operations."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR questioned whether  there would be a material                                                               
difference with the use of the term "transportation."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER said he was unsure.   He pointed out that the board                                                               
should be  specific to AMHS,  adding that Amendment 3  could make                                                               
the mission broader.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER  cited Section 11.21  of the Energy,  Dependency, and                                                               
Security  Act;  Section  405  of the  Coast  Guard  and  Maritime                                                               
Transportation   Act   of   2012;  and   the   National   Defense                                                               
Authorization Act of FY 2016.   He expressed his concern that [by                                                               
changing  the name],  AMHS could  miss out  on grant  money.   He                                                               
added  that   if  the  U.S.  Department   of  Transportation  had                                                               
designated a Marine Highway Program, Alaska should do the same.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  clarified  that Amendment  3  would  not                                                               
change AMHS's  name.  He  believed that the amendment  made sense                                                               
because  the   proposed  legislation   pertained  to   the  board                                                               
specifically.   Additionally,  he shared  his understanding  that                                                               
some  of the  laws cited  by Mr.  Crocker disqualified  AMHS from                                                               
garnering scenic highway  funding.  He conveyed  that Amendment 3                                                               
would ensure that the board's scope was appropriate.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  commented that he was  weighing the costs                                                               
and  benefits of  changing  the  name.   He  indicated that  both                                                               
arguments were compelling.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  her opposition  to Amendment  3.                                                               
She opined  that AMHS was  long established  as a unique  part of                                                               
Alaska's highway system.  Further,  she emphasized the importance                                                               
of optimizing federal funding.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  reiterated that Amendment 3  was specific                                                               
to the board, not AMHS itself.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR said  without more  time to  ensure that  no                                                               
unintended  consequences  would  ensue  from  the  proposed  name                                                               
change,  she  would   be  opposing  Amendment  3.     She  echoed                                                               
Representative Story's sentiments and  added that she didn't want                                                               
to dilute AMHS's struggle by expanding the board's scope.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  referenced the cost/benefit  framework that                                                               
Representative  Kaufman had  referenced,  adding  that he  didn't                                                               
perceive any active harm other  than the potential for confusion.                                                               
He pointed  out that the  correlation between AMHS  and "highway"                                                               
had  been instilled  in the  public's consciousness.   He  opined                                                               
that maintaining  the current language would  provide the benefit                                                               
of clarity; therefore, he respectfully opposed Amendment 3.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN withdrew Amendment 3.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN moved to adopt Amendment 4, labeled 32-                                                                  
LS0286\G.4, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7, through page 2, line 4:                                                                                    
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
        "* Section 1. AS 19.65.011 is amended to read:                                                                      
          Sec. 19.65.011. Short-term and comprehensive                                                                      
     [COMPREHENSIVE]    long-range    plans   [PLAN].    The                                                                
     Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities, in                                                                    
     consultation with the  Alaska Marine Highway Operations                                                                
     [TRANSPORTATION  ADVISORY]   Board,  shall   prepare  a                                                                    
     short-term  plan and  a  comprehensive long-range  plan                                                                
     for  the  development  and improvement  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     marine highway  system and shall, in  consultation with                                                                    
     the  Alaska Marine  Highway Operations  [TRANSPORTATION                                                                
     ADVISORY] Board, revise and  update the short-term plan                                                                
     annually,  and  the  comprehensive long-range  plan  at                                                                
     least  every three  [FIVE] years.  The short-term  plan                                                            
     must  describe   the  means  by  which   effective  and                                                                
     efficient progress toward  priorities and goals defined                                                                
     in the comprehensive long-range  plan will be attained.                                                                
     The   comprehensive   long-range  plan   must   include                                                                
     priorities  and goals  for  the  Alaska marine  highway                                                                
     system   and   may  recommend   performance   measures,                                                                
     including   output,   efficiency,   and   effectiveness                                                                
     measures. The  department shall submit both  the short-                                                            
     term and the comprehensive  long-range plans [PLAN] and                                                            
     revisions  and  updates  of the  plans  [PLAN]  to  the                                                                
     legislature  and  the  governor   and  make  the  plans                                                                
     available to the public."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN explained that  Amendment 4 would create a                                                               
hierarchy of plans by aligning  a tactical short-term plan with a                                                               
strategic long-term plan.   He conveyed that  the requirement for                                                               
a  plan   in  the  proposed   legislation  would  be   made  more                                                               
operational with  this amendment,  such that  the board  would be                                                               
involved in forming  the short-term and long-term  plans to drive                                                               
improvement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE referring  to line  11, inquired  about the                                                               
one-year  timeframe  for  the   short-term  plan  and  three-year                                                               
timeframe  for the  long-range plan.    She asked  what would  be                                                               
accomplished in that time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN indicated  that the  long-range plan  was                                                               
subject to change because it  would be impacted by the short-term                                                               
plan.    The  [three-year]  timeframe would  offer  a  beneficial                                                               
synchronicity between the two plans, he said.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  observed that  Amendment 4  and Amendment                                                               
10 [which  had not been  offered yet] both  addressed performance                                                               
measures.    He proposed  combining the two amendments  by adding                                                               
the language  from page  2, lines 11-15,  of Amendment  10, which                                                               
considered goals for fare box recovery, to Amendment 4.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  said, as  the sponsor  of Amendment  10, he                                                               
would  not be  averse  to  that proposal.    In  the interest  of                                                               
process,  he   suggested  that  Amendment  4   be  considered  in                                                               
isolation.  He  noted that given the  "profundity" of amendments,                                                               
a committee  substitute (CS) that incorporated  all the [adopted]                                                               
amendments would ultimately be created  to ensure that there were                                                               
no drafting errors,  fiscal notes, or constitutional  issues.  He                                                               
proposed  that Amendment  10 be  set  aside and  considered at  a                                                               
later date in relation to the [forthcoming] CS.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN concurred.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  said  she  wanted  to  be  realistic  about                                                               
expectations.   She questioned  whether the  accelerated timeline                                                               
for the long-range  plan could be accomplished  and whether there                                                               
was adequate  capacity to  complete [the  short-term plan]  on an                                                               
annual basis.   She reiterated  that she  did not want  to create                                                               
unrealistic  expectations that  could  not be  achieved with  the                                                               
department's available resources.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  recognized that [DOT&PF] was  limited in personnel                                                               
and  AMHS was  "strapped" trying  to maintain  system operations.                                                               
He  speculated that  staff from  the Office  of the  Commissioner                                                               
could assist the board with  these plans, and new personnel could                                                               
be  added   to  address  these   efforts  in  the  future.     He                                                               
acknowledged  that  this was  a  concern,  as any  administrative                                                               
increases would impact the agency.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  understood  that previous  plans  had  been                                                               
implemented that were  multi-year efforts.  She  pointed out that                                                               
if this  bill were to  pass, it would effectively  "benchmark" as                                                               
the  start date  for a  new comprehensive  long-range plan.   She                                                               
questioned  how  much  of  the   three-year  timeframe  would  be                                                               
absorbed by drafting versus the implementation/oversight phase.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER said  Representative  Tarr  had addressed  another                                                               
good point.  He shared  his understanding that previous testimony                                                               
had indicated that "a short  three-year timeline could be a setup                                                               
of continuous planning  versus having a plan in  place and having                                                               
some time  to implement it," which  could be a concern,  he said,                                                               
if plans were being constantly developed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  stated that she  liked the idea of  a short-                                                               
term  and  long-term  plan;  however,   she  indicated  that  the                                                               
timeline  was concerning  for  the agency.    She explained  that                                                               
three-years could  go by too  quickly if  the majority of  it was                                                               
dedicated to drafting.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  noted that  most endeavors  operated with                                                               
an annual plan and a multi-year plan.   He said the goal would be                                                               
to  align  existing  operations around  process  improvement  and                                                               
performance improvement.  He added  that the cadence could always                                                               
change in  the future  if it  was burdensome  or unworkable.   He                                                               
conceded that  five years could  also work; however, he  said the                                                               
initial  idea  was  to  channel expediency  to  ensure  this  was                                                               
launched [expeditiously].                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE said she appreciated  the concerns about the                                                               
timeframe; however,  in regard to expediency,  she suggested that                                                               
Alaskans wanted  solutions as opposed to  a continuous discussion                                                               
of plans.  She opined that  the annual short-term plan would be a                                                               
good measure  to indicate  to Alaskans  that the  long-range plan                                                               
was  progressing.   Further, she  believed that  the merits  of a                                                               
three-year, four-year, or five-year  timeframe for the long-range                                                               
plan  should be  discussed  further to  identify  which would  be                                                               
feasible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS asked  for  the bill  sponsor's opinion  on                                                               
Amendment 4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:54:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER   stated  that  a  five-year   plan  was  preferred.                                                               
Nonetheless, he said he was open to further discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   KREISS-TOMKINS   recognized   that  Mr.   Carpenter   had                                                               
identified  fiscal  impact  as a  consideration,  indicating  the                                                               
potential  for  a fiscal  note.    He  said  he liked  where  the                                                               
amendment was  headed; however, a  fiscal note was "a  bright red                                                               
line,"  as  it   could  change  the  outlook   for  the  proposed                                                               
legislation.     He  proposed  that   given  the   impending  CS,                                                               
Representative Kaufman could take a  few days to collaborate with                                                               
the department on a zero fiscal note outcome.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  said  he  would  consider  a  conceptual                                                               
amendment  if  the  three-year  timeframe  lacked  support.    He                                                               
explained that the  core utility [of Amendment 4]  was to produce                                                               
a  short-term tactical  report that  would align  with the  long-                                                               
range strategic plan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS   expressed  his  interest  in   voting  on                                                               
Amendment 4  in its current form.   He conveyed that  if the bill                                                               
were  to pick  up  a  fiscal note,  further  amendments could  be                                                               
considered upon deliberation  of the impending CS  to ensure that                                                               
the  proposed legislation  left  the committee  without a  fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:56:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR stated her support  for the annual plan.  She                                                               
pointed out  that the  budget had been  delayed in  recent years,                                                               
which impacted  the delivery of  state services and led  to ferry                                                               
cancellations.   She indicated that  if a similar  situation were                                                               
to occur,  it could  be disruptive  of a  shorter timeline.   She                                                               
said she  would be happy  to offer  a conceptual amendment  if it                                                               
was in the interest of the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS asked  whether that  would be  considered a                                                               
"friendly" conceptual amendment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN replied in the affirmative.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:57:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR moved  to adopt  a  conceptual amendment  to                                                               
Amendment 4, such  that the deleted language on line  11 would be                                                               
reinserted.     Effectively,  the  adoption  of   the  conceptual                                                               
amendment  would maintain  a five-year  timeframe  for the  long-                                                               
range plan.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS,  hearing no  objection, announced  that the                                                               
conceptual amendment to  Amendment 4 was adopted.   He questioned                                                               
whether there was further objection to Amendment 4, as amended.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS objected  for the  purpose of  a roll  call                                                               
vote.  He invited final  comments from the committee on Amendment                                                               
4.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  expressed his support for  the conceptual                                                               
amendment  and  for  the flexibility  that  [Amendment  4]  would                                                               
provide to the board.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:58:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Eastman,  Tarr,                                                               
Story, Vance, Kaufman,  and Kreiss-Tomkins voted in  favor of the                                                               
adoption of  Amendment 4, as  amended.  No  representatives voted                                                               
against it.   Therefore, Amendment 4, as amended,  was adopted by                                                               
a vote of 6-0.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN moved to adopt Amendment 5, labeled 32-                                                                  
LS0286\G.5, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 3, following "years.":                                                                                        
          Insert "The short-term plan must include a                                                                        
         description of skill or competency gaps in the                                                                     
       membership of the Alaska Marine Highway Operations                                                                   
     Board."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 20, through page 3, line 3:                                                                                   
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
               "(4)  six public members                                                                                         
               (A)  who collectively have experience in                                                                         
     enterprise,    architecture,    business    operations,                                                                    
     financial   management,  risk   management,  logistics,                                                                    
     supply    chain   management,    engineering,   project                                                                    
     management and  controls, marine  operations, strategy,                                                                    
     regulatory compliance,  ship maintenance, construction,                                                                    
     and    repair,     quality    management,    continuous                                                                    
     improvement,    sales,    marketing,    communications,                                                                    
     customer interface, or experience management;                                                                              
               (B)  two of whom are appointed by the                                                                            
     governor, two of  whom are appointed by  the speaker of                                                                    
     the  house  of representatives  and  who  serve at  the                                                                    
     pleasure   of    the   speaker   of   the    house   of                                                                    
     representatives, and  two of whom are  appointed by the                                                                    
     president of the  senate and who serve  at the pleasure                                                                    
     of the president of the senate."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:59:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN explained that  the purpose of Amendment 5                                                               
was  to guarantee  that the  board's  composition comprised  core                                                               
competencies   to  drive   improvement.      Amendment  5   added                                                               
characteristics  that were  typical of  a high-level  enterprise,                                                               
such as  AMHS, to ensure that  the board could make  a meaningful                                                               
difference.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked for the  bill sponsor's perspective on                                                               
the proposed amendment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER expressed  support for the Amendment 5.   He believed                                                               
the proposed  amendment would strengthen  the board  by requiring                                                               
[that  members  were  equipped  with]  the  necessary  skills  to                                                               
govern.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  for  the  DOT&PF's  perspective  on                                                               
Amendment 5.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER said the department  had no position on Amendment 5                                                               
at  this time.   He  inquired  about the  language regarding  the                                                               
appointment of board members.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS   sought  to  confirm  that   the  agency's                                                               
position was no position.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER indicted  that DOT&PF was indifferent  in regard to                                                               
[lines 1-3]  of Amendment 5.   He expressed concern  about [lines                                                               
5-18],  which  specified  "the  appointment  of  members  by  the                                                               
legislature," he said.  He referenced  a legal memo that spoke to                                                               
that concern.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR asked  for  clarification  on the  language,                                                               
such  as "marine  operations," in  proposed  subparagraph (A)  of                                                               
Amendment  5.   She  observed  that  the aforementioned  language                                                               
differed  from  the language  on  page  2,  lines 22-23  of  CSHB
63(TRA) and sought further explanation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  surmised  that "marine  operations"  would                                                               
encompass much of the existing language in [CSHB 63(TRA)].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR said  she wanted to ensure  that the inserted                                                               
language  in  proposed  subparagraph  (A)  wouldn't  exclude  any                                                               
important  skillsets  that  had  been  included  in  the  deleted                                                               
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  explained that the intent  was to capture                                                               
the necessary  skills for  running a marine  operation.   He said                                                               
the  language  in  Amendment  5 would  cover  all  the  essential                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR  asked   whether  the   bill  sponsor   was                                                               
supportive of the language in Amendment 5.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER restated  his support  for  the proposed  amendment,                                                               
noting that  he had worked  with Representative Kaufman  to draft                                                               
language   that  mirrored   AMHS's   organizational  charts   and                                                               
encompassed the board's needs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS removed  his  objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 5 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:05:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  moved to  adopt Amendment 6,  labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.6, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                             
          Insert "new subsections"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 24:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(f)  If the board determines that the Alaska                                                                         
     marine  highway  system  has   deviated  from  a  plan,                                                                    
     policy, or  procedure described in the  short-term plan                                                                    
     or   comprehensive  long-range   plan  prepared   under                                                                    
     AS 19.65.011,   the   board   may  prepare   a   report                                                                    
     recommending corrective action.  The board shall submit                                                                    
     a  report   prepared  under  this  subsection   to  the                                                                    
     legislature and the governor and  shall make the report                                                                    
     available to the public."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected for the purpose of the discussion.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  explained that  Amendment 6  would enable                                                               
the board to  prepare a corrective action report.   He noted that                                                               
this was  a common tool  of continuous improvement that  was used                                                               
throughout the  industry.   If deviation  from the  short-term or                                                               
long-range plan occurred, the proposed  amendment would allow the                                                               
board  to issue  a  report recommending  corrective  action.   He                                                               
explained that  the report would require  a technically confident                                                               
answer [from  AMHS] that  would be monitored  to ensure  that the                                                               
solution was implemented.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:07:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE in  an attempt  to  avoid potential  fiscal                                                               
notes, proposed  a friendly conceptual  amendment to  Amendment 6                                                               
on  line 10,  such  that  the board  would  submit an  electronic                                                               
report, effectively inserting the word "electronic."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   KREISS-TOMKINS   suggested  postponing   the   conceptual                                                               
amendment to  allow the  bill sponsor and  DOT&PF to  share their                                                               
opinions on Amendment 6.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  appreciated the  detail in Amendment  6 and                                                               
asked whether  it was attempting  to implement  "good management"                                                               
procedures into policy.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS deferred  Representative Story's question to                                                               
the sponsor of the proposed  Amendment and asked the bill sponsor                                                               
and DOT&PF to comment on Amendment 6.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:08:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER  expressed  the  bill  sponsor's  full  support  for                                                               
Amendment  6.   He said  he was  excited at  the prospect  of the                                                               
board  being able  to report  if recommendations  were not  being                                                               
followed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  said the department  had no position  on Amendment                                                               
6.  He opined that it  was conceptually sound, adding that he was                                                               
unsure of its administrative impact.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:09:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:09 p.m. to 4:11 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:11:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE moved  to adopt  a conceptual  amendment to                                                               
Amendment 6, such that "electronic"  would be inserted on line 10                                                               
before the word  "report" to specify that the  board shall submit                                                               
an electronic report.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS,  hearing no  objection, announced  that the                                                               
conceptual  amendment to  Amendment 6  was adopted.   He  invited                                                               
comments from committee members on Amendment 6, as amended.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN stated  his  understanding that  although                                                               
corrective  action reports  were required  of other  boards, they                                                               
were not  often followed  through on.   He believed  that putting                                                               
this requirement in writing could encourage other boards to act.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew  his objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 6, as amended, was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN moved to adopt amendment 7, labeled 32-                                                                  
LS0286\G.7, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 17:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
       "* Sec. 6. AS 19.65.120 is amended by adding a new                                                                   
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (e)  The board shall provide newly appointed                                                                          
        members with information about the board and the                                                                        
      Alaska marine highway system, including information                                                                       
     about the business, operations, and regulatory                                                                             
     obligations of the Alaska marine highway system."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN explained  that  Amendment  7 would  help                                                               
onboard members  and ensure that  new appointments  were provided                                                               
with a high-level overview [of the  board and AMHS].  He said the                                                               
purpose was  to ensure that  new members  would be ready  to work                                                               
and were equipped with any assistance they needed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER  expressed  the  bill   sponsor's  support  for  the                                                               
proposed amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER said DOT&PF was not opposed to Amendment 7.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:15:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked who  would provide  newly appointed                                                               
members with information about the board.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN   explained  that  once  the   board  was                                                               
established  there would  be an  "onboarding package"  as members                                                               
were periodically replaced.  He  suggested that veterans from the                                                               
previous board could help during the initial formation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:16:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  withdrew his objection.   Without further                                                               
objection, Amendment 7 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS announced  that  Amendment 8  would not  be                                                               
offered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:16:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS moved  to  adopt Amendment  9, labeled  32-                                                               
LS0286\G.9, Nauman/Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 17:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "* Sec. 5. AS 19.65.180(d) is amended to read:                                                                      
          (d)  The board may receive information from the                                                                       
     department as  the board  considers necessary  to carry                                                                    
     out  its  duties,  and  the  department  shall  provide                                                                
     information  requested to  the  board in  a timely  and                                                                
     responsive manner."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS explained  that Amendment  9 would  clarify                                                               
that the department shall be responsive  to the board in a timely                                                               
and substantive  manner.   He said the  idea originated  from the                                                               
circumstance  of  MTAB  [Marine  Transportation  Advisory  Board]                                                               
becoming a "lost child" to DOT&PF.   He elaborated that there was                                                               
not a  close advisory or  consultative relationship  between MTAB                                                               
and  the department,  which the  proposed  amendment intended  to                                                               
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN questioned whether,  on line 6, "requested                                                               
by the board" would be clearer than "requested to the board."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS answered yes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  moved to adopt a  conceptual amendment to                                                               
Amendment 9, which deleted "to" on line 6 and inserted "by."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS,  hearing no  objection, announced  that the                                                               
conceptual  amendment  to amendment  9  was  adopted.   He  asked                                                               
whether  the bill  sponsor  had  a position  on  Amendment 9,  as                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:18:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER shared the bill  sponsor's support for the amendment;                                                               
however,  he expressed  his  hope that  the  concept was  already                                                               
standard operating procedure for the department.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER believed the proposed  amendment made sense, adding                                                               
that  DOT&PF  was happy  to  respond.    He  opined that  with  a                                                               
representative  from the  department  on  the board,  information                                                               
would be provided in [a timely and responsive] manner.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN withdrew his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN objected  for the  purpose of  expressing                                                               
his  support  for  Amendment  9, as  amended.    He  subsequently                                                               
removed  his  objection.    There  being  no  further  objection,                                                               
Amendment 9, as amended, was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:20:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:20:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:21:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS announced  that Amendment  10 would  not be                                                               
offered given the  intersection of Amendment 10  and a previously                                                               
adopted amendment  [Amendment 4].   He said  he intended  for the                                                               
spirit of  Amendment 10  to be considered  once the  impending CS                                                               
was adopted to provide a cleaner process for drafting purposes.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS moved  to adopt  Amendment 11,  labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.11, Nauman/Fisher, 4/15/21, which read:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                             
          Insert "new subsections"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 24:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(f)  The board shall                                                                                                 
               (1)  create and update a proposed strategic                                                                      
     maintenance and vessel replacement plan;                                                                                   
               (2)  update the plan created under (1) of                                                                        
     this subsection at least every two years;                                                                                  
               (3)  deliver the plan created under (1) of                                                                       
     this subsection, and each update of the plan under (2)                                                                     
     of this subsection, to                                                                                                     
               (A)  the governor;                                                                                               
               (B)  the senate secretary and the chief                                                                          
      clerk of the house of representatives and notify the                                                                      
     legislature that the report is available; and                                                                              
               (C)  the Department of Transportation and                                                                        
     Public Facilities."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:21:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS explained that Amendment  11 would add a new                                                               
subsection  that  created  a  strategic  maintenance  and  vessel                                                               
replacement plan.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER  expressed  the  bill   sponsor's  support  for  the                                                               
proposed amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER  believed  that  DOT&PF  supported  the  amendment                                                               
conceptually.   He noted that  the department was in  the process                                                               
of improving maintenance planning efforts for AMHS.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:23:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  questioned  whether the  board  was  the                                                               
right  entity  to  be creating  [the  strategic  maintenance  and                                                               
vessel  plan];  further, he  wondered  whether  "shall" would  be                                                               
setting  exceptionally   high  expectations   that  would   be  a                                                               
detriment to recruitment.   He opined that DOT&PF  or AMHS should                                                               
create the plan.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  announced  his   intention  to  set  aside                                                               
Amendment  11 for  later consideration.    He said  he wanted  to                                                               
explore its origin and how it may intersect with Amendment 4.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN directed  attention  to  lines 12-13  and                                                               
suggested  that the  legislature  may not  want  to receive  each                                                               
update  of  the  plan,  as   the  updates  may  be  numerous  and                                                               
"microscopic."   He recommended that  updates be  delivered every                                                               
two years to provide the board with more latitude.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  opined that the content  of the amendment                                                               
was good, but it could be made more effective.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:26:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew Amendment 11.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:26:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  moved to adopt Amendment  12, labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.12, Bullard/Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                             
          Insert "new subsections"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 24:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(f)  The board may establish a task force that                                                                       
     includes members who  are not members of  the board and                                                                    
     that is  tasked with investigating matters  relevant to                                                                    
     the Alaska  marine highway system and  reporting to the                                                                    
     board. Members  of a task force  established under this                                                                    
     subsection are  not entitled to  receive a  salary, per                                                                    
     diem, or travel expenses."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:26:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS explained  that Amendment  12 outlined  the                                                               
board's authority  to establish a  task force that  was ancillary                                                               
to the  core competencies of the  board.  He noted  that the task                                                               
force  could include  members who  were not  seated on  the board                                                               
itself.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR  questioned   whether   the  authority   to                                                               
establish such  a task force  would be delegated  equally amongst                                                               
board members.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  speculated  that   a  board  motion  would                                                               
suffice.  He  elaborated that if a majority of  members wanted to                                                               
appoint  a  committee  to explore  marketing  opportunities,  for                                                               
example,  the process  by which  those  appointments would  occur                                                               
would be a motion.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:28:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN withdrew his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS   objected  for  the  purpose   of  further                                                               
discussion on Amendment 12.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER stated the bill sponsor's support for the proposed                                                                  
amendment, characterizing it as "excellent."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER shared his belief that a similar function existed                                                                 
for MTAB.  He stated that his only concern was the potential                                                                    
administrative burden.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN withdrew his objection.  Without further                                                                  
objection, Amendment 12 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:30:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Amendment 13, labeled 32-                                                                   
LS0286\G.13, Bullard/Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2:                                                                                                            
          Delete "three [FIVE]"                                                                                             
          Insert "five"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR noted that Amendment 13 had already been                                                                    
addressed in a conceptual amendment that was previously adopted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew Amendment 13.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:30:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Amendment 14, labeled 32-                                                                   
LS0286\G.14, Bullard/Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "three-year"                                                                                                   
          Insert "six-year [THREE-YEAR]"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 20:                                                                                                           
          Delete "one-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "two-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 23:                                                                                                           
          Delete "one-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "two-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 25:                                                                                                           
          Delete "two-year"                                                                                                     
          Insert "four-year"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 27:                                                                                                           
          Delete "three-year"                                                                                                   
          Insert "six-year"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS explained  that Amendment  14 would  change                                                               
the  term [length]  for board  members  from three  years to  six                                                               
years for continuity and the accruement of knowledge.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE   opined  that   a  six-year  term   was  a                                                               
substantial commitment and believed it  would narrow the field of                                                               
candidates.   She asked  whether other  boards had  lengthy [term                                                               
lengths].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS referenced  the University  of Alaska  (UA)                                                               
Board  of  Regents,  which  was composed  of  six-year  terms  at                                                               
minimum.   He added  that the length  was an  intentional vetting                                                               
mechanism to identify individuals  who were committed to accruing                                                               
the knowledge.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  asked whether those  who served on  [the UA                                                               
Board of Regents] were compensated.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  believed there was no  salary or honorarium                                                               
associated with service; however, he  said they might receive per                                                               
diem for travel.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  acknowledged the need for  longevity on the                                                               
board.   Nonetheless,  she expressed  interest in  learning about                                                               
the success of other boards with similar tenure.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN understood  that the  UA Board  of Regents                                                               
had a  one-term limit.   Additionally, he  noted that  the Alaska                                                               
Judicial Council had six-year terms as well.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  recalled  the difficulty  of  trying  to                                                               
encourage  people  to volunteer  for  appointment  to the  Alaska                                                               
Public Offices Commission  (APOC) due to the five-year  term.  He                                                               
also observed that it was customary  for people not to finish out                                                               
their  term,  which  impeded  the  longevity  that  the  proposed                                                               
amendment   was  attempting   to   accomplish.     He   suggested                                                               
implementing  a shorter  initial term  and making  it easier  for                                                               
first-time members to be reappointed for a subsequent term.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY reflected  on school  board service,  which                                                               
entailed  two-year  and three-year  terms.    She expounded  that                                                               
after  serving   an  initial  term,  people   often  returned  to                                                               
contribute the knowledge they gained.   She expressed support for                                                               
the knowledge and continuity that a longer term would provide.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:38:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER  indicated that  the bill  sponsor was  supportive of                                                               
Amendment 14.   He  stated that the  continuity it  would provide                                                               
was a benefit.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER said DOT&PF had no stance on the amendment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:39:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  expressed his  interest in  ensuring that                                                               
core competencies  were consistently  present on  the board.   He                                                               
indicated  that  he would  support  the  proposed amendment  upon                                                               
receipt of the forthcoming CS.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  acknowledged the comments and  concerns and                                                               
believed it  came down to  a policy call.   He opined  that there                                                               
were  ways   to  harmonize   Amendment  14   with  Representative                                                               
Kaufman's comments and [Amendment 5].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  clarified  that  the UA  Board  of  Regents                                                               
served  eight-year terms  and the  RCA [Regulatory  Commission of                                                               
Alaska] served six  years, indicating that a  six-year term would                                                               
not by a-typical.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN pointed out that  AMHS was high on the list                                                               
of organizations that  incited passion from Alaskans.   He opined                                                               
that people  who were willing to  serve would be happy  to commit                                                               
to a  longer term.   Additionally, he expressed  appreciation for                                                               
Representative Eastman's  suggestion; however, he  indicated that                                                               
increased  complication  could  cause confusion  and  stated  his                                                               
support for a basic term length.   On that basis, he withdrew his                                                               
objection to Amendment 14.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   objected.     He  inquired   about  the                                                               
frequency of  meetings, asking how  often the board  was expected                                                               
to meet.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  replied  quarterly.   He  noted  that  the                                                               
frequency was  not included  in the bill  language.   He deferred                                                               
the question to Mr. Crocker.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER believed  the statute specified that  the board would                                                               
meet quarterly.  He deferred to Legislative Legal Services.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  questioned   whether  a  new  [presiding                                                               
officer]  would have  the opportunity  to  replace board  members                                                               
with his/her own selections.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     My intent  is that  some presiding  officers, speakers,                                                                    
     or presidents, would ... be  due for an appointment and                                                                    
     others  would  not.    Not   dissimilar,  say,  to  the                                                                    
     reapportionment board  [Alaska Redistricting  Board] in                                                                    
     the  constitution,   in  that  President   Geissel  and                                                                    
     Speaker   Edgmon  made   those   appointments  to   the                                                                    
     reapportionment  board  ...  they   happen  to  be  the                                                                    
     presiding  officers  when  that  decadal  cycle  rolled                                                                    
     around.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:44:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FISHER explained  that  if  the bill  were  to  pass, a  new                                                               
presiding  officer  wouldn't  terminate   the  appointment  of  a                                                               
currently serving  board member, but the  board members appointed                                                               
by the presiding  officers served at the pleasure  of the current                                                               
presiding officer; therefore, a  presiding officer would have the                                                               
opportunity to remove  one of the members  that his/her successor                                                               
had appointed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS commented  that Representative  Eastman had                                                               
highlighted a vulnerability in the legislation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  suggested that  members appointed  by the                                                               
presiding officers should serve terms shorter than six years.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  conveyed  his interest  in  remedying  the                                                               
"failure"  in the  amendment  and bringing  it  back [before  the                                                               
committee].    He invited  further  comments  on the  concept  of                                                               
Amendment 14.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE pointed  out that  it shouldn't  be assumed                                                               
that  a presiding  officer would  want to  remove an  appointment                                                               
[made  by  his/her successor].    She  opined that  there  wasn't                                                               
necessarily  a "failure"  in the  amendment but  a lack  of clear                                                               
intent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  clarified  that even  though  a  presiding                                                               
officer  may elect  not to  replace  the legislatively  appointed                                                               
members  on the  board, his  intent was  to provide  a "political                                                               
fire wall"  and the certainty of  a six-year term.   He explained                                                               
that  a primary  idea  behind  establishing a  new  board was  to                                                               
create  separation between  the annual  political forces  and the                                                               
"machinations"  of new  [public  officials].   He  added that  he                                                               
would want [newly appointed members]  to be able to learn without                                                               
having to look over their shoulders.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  said he  was  reminded  of former  Senate                                                               
President [Cathy Giessel] who advocated  that the commissioner of                                                               
the  Department of  Corrections  (DOC) should  not  serve at  the                                                               
pleasure of the governor; instead,  she believed the commissioner                                                               
should  administrate  for a  fixed  period  of time  to  overcome                                                               
"bumps" in  the administration.   He understood that the  much of                                                               
criticism of AMHS related to the  lack of a long-term plan, which                                                               
had been further  hindered by administration changes.   He opined                                                               
that a six-year term was  appropriate and that members should not                                                               
serve at  the pleasure of  a presiding officer.   Once appointed,                                                               
members should  serve out the six  years, he said, to  foster the                                                               
longevity that had been lacking in marine highway management.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN remarked:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This discussion  is one reason  why having ...  many of                                                                    
     the core competencies listed and  having the ... 'self-                                                                    
     healing' capability  ... all works together  to be sure                                                                    
     that  as the  political winds  blow as  they may  - and                                                                    
     they  shall -  that the  competencies remain;  that the                                                                    
     board is able to restore its integrity.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew Amendment 14.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Amendment 15, labeled 32-                                                                   
LS0286\G.15, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 11 - 12:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
          "(a)    The  board   is  composed  of  the  deputy                                                                    
     commissioner  of transportation  and public  facilities                                                                    
     assigned to  the Alaska marine  highway system  and the                                                                    
     following eight public members, each  of whom must be a                                                                    
     resident of the state:"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 13:                                                                                                           
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following paragraphs accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, lines 5 - 6:                                                                                                       
          Delete   "head   of   the   division   of   marine                                                                
     transportation"                                                                                                        
          Insert "deputy commissioner  of transportation and                                                                
     public facilities"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 15:                                                                                                           
          Delete   "head   of   the   division   of   marine                                                                
     transportation"                                                                                                        
          Insert "deputy commissioner  of transportation and                                                                
     public facilities"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 28:                                                                                                           
          Delete   "head   of   the   division   of   marine                                                                    
     transportation"                                                                                                            
          Insert "deputy commissioner  of transportation and                                                                    
     public facilities"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:49:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  explained that Amendment 15  would name the                                                               
deputy commissioner of DOT&PF  as the department's representative                                                               
serving on  the board  [instead of  the head  of the  division of                                                               
marine transportation].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN questioned what this change would add in                                                                 
terms of value.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CARPENTER said  that it  wasn't clear  who the  head of  the                                                               
division of  marine transportation  would be.   He noted  that if                                                               
the  head of  the division  were to  be Captain  John Falvey,  he                                                               
would  not have  the time  to serve  on the  board.   He said  he                                                               
appreciated  the intent  of Amendment  15 but  hoped it  could be                                                               
broader so  that if  the deputy  commissioner was  not available,                                                               
someone else could  act in his/her stead.  He  emphasized that in                                                               
terms of value  added, it came down to available  time and agency                                                               
hierarchy.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  questioned  what  would  occur  if  [the                                                               
deputy commissioner's  position] had  not been confirmed  and how                                                               
that situation might apply to the proposed amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS pondered broadening  the language to include                                                               
"or designee" to encompass interim vacancies.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER shared  his believe  that deputy  commissioners were                                                               
not subject to confirmations.   He indicated that the sponsor had                                                               
identified   that   position   to   be   the   most   appropriate                                                               
representative of the department.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN cautioned that  including the verbiage "or                                                               
designee"   could   result   in  the   downward   delegation   of                                                               
responsibilities.   He advised considering the  level of designee                                                               
to avoid losing effectiveness.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  her hope  that the  department's                                                               
representative  would  be  the person  who  was  responsible  for                                                               
carrying  out  the  board's  plans   and  recommendations.    She                                                               
stressed  the importance  of  identifying who  would  be able  to                                                               
convey [the board's message with authority].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS agreed that  the representative should be an                                                               
authoritative position within the agency.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE   concurred  with   Representative  Story's                                                               
comments and  expressed her support  conceptually.   Further, she                                                               
encouraged  the  flexibility  of allowing  the  commissioner  [of                                                               
DOT&PF} to  be involved,  so that  the deputy  commissioner would                                                               
have more  latitude.  She  said she  also wanted more  insight on                                                               
whether the  deputy commissioner was the  most appropriate person                                                               
for this role.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN stated his  understanding that a number of                                                               
departments  had more  than one  deputy.   He  indicated that  it                                                               
could be  ambiguous if  DOT&PF were  to also  have more  than one                                                               
deputy in the future.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS, as  the sponsor  of Amendment  15, assured                                                               
committee  members  that  he   would  pursue  the  aforementioned                                                               
comments and  upon receipt of  a revised CS,  consider additional                                                               
amendments to satisfy existing concerns.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:56:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  withdrew his  objection.  There  being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 15 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:56:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  moved to adopt [Amendment  16], labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.18, Fisher, 4/14/21, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 6:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Section 1. AS 19.05.030 is amended to read:                                                                      
          Sec. 19.05.030. Duties of department. The                                                                           
     department has the following duties:                                                                                       
               (1)  direct approved highway planning and                                                                        
     construction and maintenance, protection and control                                                                       
     of highways;                                                                                                               
             (2)  employ assistants and employees;                                                                              
               (3)  certify and approve vouchers;                                                                               
               (4)  provide a program of highway research;                                                                      
               (5)  prepare a budget;                                                                                           
               (6)  review the annual highway program;                                                                          
               (7)  develop and implement an avalanche                                                                          
     control plan to protect persons who use public                                                                             
     highways;                                                                                                              
               (8)  review and respond to recommendations                                                                   
     regarding the statewide transportation improvement                                                                     
     program that are made by the Alaska Marine Highway                                                                     
     Operations Board established under AS 19.65.110."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                             
          Insert "new subsections"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 24:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(f)      The    board   shall   annually   submit                                                                    
      recommendations to the Department of Transportation                                                                       
     and Public Facilities regarding the preparation of the                                                                     
     statewide transportation improvement program."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 17:                                                                                                           
          Delete "sec. 4"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 5"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 19:                                                                                                           
          Delete "sec. 3"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 4"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 1:                                                                                                            
          Delete "sec. 3"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 4"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  explained that  [Amendment 16]  would grant                                                               
the board  with an  "enfranchised voice"  in the  STIP [statewide                                                               
transportation  improvement  program]   process,  which  was  how                                                               
DOT&PF determined where state  and federal transportation dollars                                                               
would flow.  Additionally, the  proposed amendment would ensure a                                                               
two-way dialogue between the agency and the board.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    EASTMAN    inquired   about    the    statewide                                                               
transportation  improvement program  and asked  whether that  was                                                               
something  the  board would  create  or  a program  that  already                                                               
existed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS answered  the latter.  He  conveyed that the                                                               
STIP  was an  extant process  that DOT&PF  periodically reviewed.                                                               
He  noted   that  it  included   funding  priorities   for  AMHS;                                                               
therefore,  the  proposed  amendment  would allow  the  board  to                                                               
comment on that in a more enfranchised way.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN   suggested  including   a   requirement                                                               
regarding  the production  of the  STIP to  supplement the  added                                                               
language in the proposed amendment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS suspected  that the  STIP was  addressed in                                                               
other statutes  or regulations.   He asked Mr.  Carpenter whether                                                               
maintenance of the STIP was codified elsewhere.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER believed  it was mentioned in  statute; however, he                                                               
was  not sure  of the  details.   He  surmised that  it could  be                                                               
implied  in paragraph  (6)  of Section  1  [AS 19.05.030],  which                                                               
specified:  "review the  annual highway  program".   He expounded                                                               
that  the STIP  was a  required planning  document to  access all                                                               
federal  highway funding.   Regarding  the language  in Amendment                                                               
16, he said  the department reviewed and responded  to all public                                                               
input regarding the development of the STIP.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FISHER, in  response  to Chair  Kreiss-Tomkins, offered  his                                                               
understanding that  the STIP was  mentioned in 1965  with respect                                                               
to the use  of certain funds; however, the  actual development of                                                               
the  STIP was  not referenced  in statute.   He  agreed with  Mr.                                                               
Carpenter's  characterization  of  the  program in  that  it  was                                                               
something  that DOT&PF  developed  for the  purpose of  obtaining                                                               
federal funds.   He believed it existed under  the general duties                                                               
of  the  department  to  administer  the  highway  system,  which                                                               
included developing the STIP to access the funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN questioned  whether participation  in the                                                               
STIP  process  or  accessing  the  accompanying  information  was                                                               
limited by federal regulations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER sought to  determine whether Representative Eastman                                                               
had asked  if there were  limitations to the public  process from                                                               
the federal government.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN  replied   in  the   affirmative.     He                                                               
questioned how  the board would be  accessing current information                                                               
pertaining to the STIP and  whether municipal transit authorities                                                               
could participate more  in the STIP process than a  member of the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  understood that a municipal  planning organization                                                               
(MPO) had  the same  opportunity as the  general public  to offer                                                               
comment.   He  said  the STIP  was publicized  for  review for  a                                                               
minimum  of  30  days;   additionally,  during  development,  the                                                               
department  would reach  out to  boards, regional  organizations,                                                               
and  AMHS  to   gather  input.    He   explained  that  receiving                                                               
advisement   or  recommendation   from   the   new  board   would                                                               
essentially be normal procedure.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:05:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked for DOT&PF's  position on the proposed                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARPENTER  indicated that this  was normal procedure  for the                                                               
department, so it wouldn't be problematic.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER expressed  the bill  sponsor's  support for  board's                                                               
ability to respond to recommendations regarding the STIP.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:05:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  withdrew his  objection.  There  being no                                                               
further objection, [Amendment 16] was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:06:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  moved to adopt [Amendment  17], labeled 32-                                                               
LS0286\G.20, Fisher, 4/15/21, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 17:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 6.  AS 19.65.120 is amended by  adding a new                                                                
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (e)  A regional development organization,                                                                             
     including  a  regional  development  organization  that                                                                    
     represents  a  region  of the  state  that  contains  a                                                                    
     community  dependent  on   the  Alaska  marine  highway                                                                    
     system, may recommend a person  for appointment to fill                                                                    
     a  vacancy on  the board  under  (a)(2) -  (6) of  this                                                                    
     section.  An appointing  authority  shall consider  the                                                                    
     recommendation    of     the    regional    development                                                                    
     organization but is not required  to appoint the person                                                                    
     recommended by  the regional  development organization.                                                                    
     In     this    subsection,     "regional    development                                                                    
     organization"   means  a   nonprofit  organization   or                                                                    
     nonprofit  corporation  formed  to  encourage  economic                                                                    
     development  within a  particular region  of the  state                                                                    
     that  includes the  entire  area  of each  municipality                                                                    
     within that  region and that  has a board  of directors                                                                    
     that represents the region's economic, political, and                                                                      
     social interests."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:06:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   KREISS-TOMKINS  explained   that  [regional   development                                                               
organizations] were  being removed from Alaska  statute and would                                                               
no longer  receive state funding  due to legislative  action from                                                               
several  years   ago.    He   articulated  that   [Amendment  17]                                                               
incorporated  the  statutory  language that  would  be  otherwise                                                               
deleted, which defined "regional development organization."                                                                     
The   proposed  amendment   also   specified   that  a   regional                                                               
development  organization  may  recommend  a  candidate  for  the                                                               
appointing  authority's consideration  to fill  a vacancy  on the                                                               
board.  The  idea, he said, was to establish  a relationship with                                                               
the  ferry-dependent  communities   and  the  organizations  that                                                               
represent them.   He noted  that the appointing  authorities were                                                               
not required  to appoint  the recommended  people put  forward by                                                               
the regional development organizations.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  sought to  clarify whether  any nonprofit                                                               
organization   that  formed   for   the   purpose  [of   economic                                                               
development] would qualify.   He questioned what  would happen if                                                               
a region had more than one economic development organization.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  acknowledged that in its  current form, the                                                               
proposed  amendment would  allow  any organization  that fit  the                                                               
relatively    broad   definition    of   "regional    development                                                               
organization" to recommend a candidate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked   how  many  regional  development                                                               
organizations   existed  in   Alaska   and   what  regions   they                                                               
represented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS said he was unsure  of the exact number.  He                                                               
understood that they broadly reflected  the regional structure of                                                               
Native corporations.   He  guessed that  there were  between 8-11                                                               
regional development organizations in Alaska  and at least one in                                                               
each  costal region,  including  the  Kenai Peninsula,  Southwest                                                               
Alaska/Gulf Coast, and Southeast Alaska.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  asked whether  "regional" was  defined in                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  stated that the proposed  amendment was not                                                               
intended  to  be  exclusive.   He  explained  that  the  language                                                               
referenced   regional   development   organizations   but   could                                                               
technically encompass  many organizations, all of  which would be                                                               
welcome to recommend a candidate if they wished.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KAUFMAN  acknowledged   the   need  to   respect                                                               
regionality; however,  he asserted  that his  goal was  to obtain                                                               
ultimate competency  [on the board]  and expressed his  hope that                                                               
all future  actions would revolve  around developing  strong core                                                               
competencies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS explained  that if  the presiding  officers                                                               
did  not  have significant  access  to  coastal Alaska,  regional                                                               
development organizations  would be motivated to  put forward the                                                               
most  competent  individuals  for  consideration.   He  said  the                                                               
proposed  amendment  was  aligned with  Representative  Kaufman's                                                               
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:13:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  pointed  out   that  the  Kenai  Peninsula                                                               
Economic Development  District (KPEDD) provided  substantial data                                                               
on the regional economy; further,  the organization stayed active                                                               
and engaged with the local  government and local businesses.  She                                                               
indicated that  KPEDD would be  able to identify key  players who                                                               
could speak to the issues  and provide necessary expertise, which                                                               
would ultimately benefit the board and add value.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS fully concurred.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:15:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN claimed that  the proposed amendment would                                                               
exclude   regional  development   organizations   that  did   not                                                               
represent a ferry-dependent region.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS interjected  to clarify  that the  proposed                                                               
amendment  was  specifically  drafted  to  be  inclusive  of  all                                                               
regional development organizations in the state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  maintained his  belief that  the language                                                               
was preferential to communities that  were dependent on AMHS.  He                                                               
opined  that the  language should  be inclusive  as possible  and                                                               
recommended   deleting:   "including   a   regional   development                                                               
organization that represents a region  of the state that contains                                                               
a community dependent on the Alaska marine highway system".                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  said, "We may  have to agree  to disagree."                                                               
He   believed  the   language  clearly   included  all   regional                                                               
development organizations, later noting  that it was common sense                                                               
that  those  representing  ferry-dependent communities  would  be                                                               
more motivated to participate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN opined  that the language on  lines 4-6 of                                                               
the  proposed amendment  emphasized coastal  communities serviced                                                               
by AMHS but was not exclusive or restrictive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS agreed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN maintained his objection.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:20:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Kaufman,  Tarr,                                                               
Story, Vance, and  Kreiss-Tomkins voted in favor  of the adoption                                                               
of  [Amendment 17].   Representative  Eastman  voted against  it.                                                               
Therefore, [Amendment 17] was adopted by a vote of 5-1.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:21:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY noted  that she  had withdrawn  Amendment 2                                                               
with hopes that it would be reconsidered.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:21:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS acknowledged  that  several amendments  had                                                               
been [withdrawn or] set aside.   He explained that his intent was                                                               
to reconsider the outstanding amendments  upon drafting a CS that                                                               
incorporated all the adopted amendments.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 63 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:22:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS ADJOURNMENT                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
State Affairs Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 5:22                                                                  
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 63 Emails of Support - Volume 4 - 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 55 Letter of Support - Tompkins 3.26.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 55
Amendment G.11 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63 Amendment G.13 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.12 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.14 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.15 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.16 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.17 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.17 - Legal Memo 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.18 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.1 - Vance 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.2 - Story 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.3 - Eastman 4.5.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.4 - Kaufman 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.5 - Kaufman 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.6 - Kaufman 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.7 - Kaufman 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.8 - Kaufman 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.9 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.14.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.10 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.11 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Amendment G.20 - Kreiss-Tomkins 4.15.21.pdf HSTA 4/15/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 63