Legislature(1993 - 1994)

01/29/1994 08:00 AM STA

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             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                            
                        January 29, 1994                                       
                            8:00 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Al Vezey, Chairman                                            
  Representative Pete Kott, Vice-Chairman                                      
  Representative Bettye Davis                                                  
  Representative Gary Davis                                                    
  Representative Harley Olberg                                                 
  Representative Jerry Sanders (via teleconference in                          
  Anchorage)                                                                   
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Fran Ulmer                                                    
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  SB 128:   "An Act relating to legislative audits."                           
                                                                               
            HEARD AND HELD                                                     
                                                                               
  *HB 363:  "An Act repealing an additional fee for motor                      
            vehicle registration not conducted by mail."                       
                                                                               
            HEARD AND HELD                                                     
                                                                               
  HJR 40:   Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the                  
            State of Alaska relating to the individual right                   
            to bear arms.                                                      
                                                                               
            HEARD AND HELD                                                     
                                                                               
  (* First time heard in committee)                                            
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS                                                       
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol, Room 103                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-4949                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Chair of the Legislative Budget and                     
                       Audit Committee, Sponsor of SB 128                      
                                                                               
  RANDY WELKER                                                                 
  Legislative Audit Division                                                   
  Legislative Affairs Agency                                                   
  P.O. Box 113300                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska  99811-3300                                                   
  465-3830                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported SB 128                                        
                                                                               
  NINA MAGNISON                                                                
  P.O. BOX 77                                                                  
  Eagle River, Alaska  99577                                                   
  Position Statement:  Commented on SB 128 and HB 363                          
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT                                                     
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol, Room 409                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3777                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Prime Sponsor of HB 363                                 
                                                                               
  SAM MEDSKER                                                                  
  1983 Yankovic Rd.                                                            
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  479-6520                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363 and HJR 40                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SANDERS                                                 
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol, Room 13                                                       
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-4945                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Prime Sponsor of HJR 40                                 
                                                                               
  JAY DELANEY                                                                  
  Division of Motor Vehicles                                                   
  Department of Public Safety                                                  
  5700 E. Tudor                                                                
  Anchorage, Alaska  99507                                                     
  269-5559                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Opposed HB 363                                          
                                                                               
  FREDRICK HEINZ                                                               
  P.O. Box 125                                                                 
  Gakona, Alaska  99586                                                        
  822-3308                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363                                        
                                                                               
  HAROLD HUME                                                                  
  4016 Birch Lane                                                              
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  479-6724                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363 and HJR 40, with a                     
                       rewording of SJR 39                                     
                                                                               
  DEANNA CHRYSUP                                                               
  22135 Aurora Bourealis                                                       
  Chugiach, Alaska  99567                                                      
  688-1090                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363 and HJR 40                             
                                                                               
  JAN HILL                                                                     
  The Office                                                                   
  P.O. Box 30                                                                  
  Petersburg, Alaska  99833                                                    
  772-4262                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363                                        
                                                                               
  DOUGLAS MILLARD                                                              
  P.O. Box 870351                                                              
  Wasilla, Alaska  99678                                                       
  376-2118                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363 and HJR 40                             
                                                                               
  PEARL MILLARD                                                                
  P.O. Box 870351                                                              
  Wasilla, Alaska  99678                                                       
  376-2118                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363                                        
                                                                               
  MARK HEINZ                                                                   
  P.O. Box 268                                                                 
  Gakona, Alaska  99586                                                        
  822-3531                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 363                                        
                                                                               
  DAN PORTWINE                                                                 
  1500 Alaska Way                                                              
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  479-3046                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  BUD SIMMONS                                                                  
  2017 Cushman                                                                 
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                     
  456-7663                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  LES ZETTERBERG                                                               
  P.O. Box 663                                                                 
  Ward Cove, Alaska  99928                                                     
  247-2494                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  GEORGE CHIPMAN                                                               
  P.O. Box 8990                                                                
  Ketchikan, Alaska  99901                                                     
  225-8180                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  K.E. FARROW                                                                  
  P.O. Box 1009                                                                
  Delta Junction, Alaska  99737                                                
  895-4452                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  CHARLES B. GRIFFIN                                                           
  3230 West 69th Ave. #A                                                       
  Anchorage, Alaska  99502                                                     
  248-2022                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  EUGENE P. MURPHY                                                             
  3515 Bassar Dr.                                                              
  Anchorage, Alaska  99508                                                     
  274-2880                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  MARK CHRYSON                                                                 
  2140 Wolverine Circle                                                        
  Wasilla, Alaska  99654                                                       
  376-8285                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  MIKE KAZMIERCZMAK                                                            
  P.O. Box 470                                                                 
  Barrow, Alaska  99723                                                        
  852-6111                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  GILBERT CROSS                                                                
  P.O. Box 666                                                                 
  Barrow, Alaska  99723                                                        
  852-3455                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  REXENE OLSON                                                                 
  P.O. Box 1448                                                                
  Kodiak, Alaska  99615                                                        
  486-4101                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  JOHN CARLY                                                                   
  South Midcoff Rd.                                                            
  Eagle River, Alaska  99577                                                   
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  ALLEN DUARD                                                                  
  18111 Hidden Falls Ave.                                                      
  Eagle River, Alaska  99577                                                   
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  HELEN McCOLLUM                                                               
  Tok Shooters Association                                                     
  P.O. Box 560                                                                 
  Tok, Alaska  99780                                                           
  883-4414                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  AUSTIN MAHALKEY                                                              
  P.O. Box 455                                                                 
  Glennallen, Alaska  99588                                                    
  822-3613                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  BILL HAGAR                                                                   
  431 Gaffney Rd.                                                              
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  452-6298                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  BOB BRUMLOW                                                                  
  3811 E. 84th                                                                 
  Anchorage, Alaska  99507                                                     
  349-8237                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  LOREANE JONES                                                                
  4510 Snow Circle                                                             
  Anchorage, Alaska  99508                                                     
  333-6462                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  DOUG J. MALLETTE                                                             
  HC2 Box 329                                                                  
  Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                      
  262-2774                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  ALLEN CORYELL                                                                
  P.O. Box 1044                                                                
  Ward Cove, Alaska  99928                                                     
  247-2497                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  ELZIE ISLEY                                                                  
  2533 3rd Ave.                                                                
  Ketchikan, Alaska  99901                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  GREG MACHACEK                                                                
  P.O. Box 56245                                                               
  North Pole, Alaska  99705                                                    
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  RICHARD LYSTAD                                                               
  P.O. Box 9019                                                                
  Ketchikan, Alaska  99901                                                     
  225-1268                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  NOEL WOODS                                                                   
  Matsu Valley Sportsman                                                       
  P.O. Box 827                                                                 
  Palmer, Alaska  99645                                                        
  745-3027                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  KURT MOSES                                                                   
  address not available                                                        
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40 and wording in SJR 39                  
                                                                               
  PHYLLIS YETKA                                                                
  South Midcoff Rd.                                                            
  Eagle River, Alaska  99577                                                   
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  DAVE STANCLIFF                                                               
  Slana Alaskans Unite                                                         
  Tok, Alaska  99780                                                           
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  GIOVANNI TALLINO                                                             
  Kodiak Sportsman Association                                                 
  P.O. Box 1098                                                                
  Kodiak, Alaska  99615                                                        
  Position Statement:  Supported HJR 40                                        
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  SB 128                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: LEGISLATIVE AUDITS                                              
  SPONSOR(S): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT                 
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  02/22/93       440    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/22/93       440    (S)   STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                           
  03/10/93              (S)   STA AT 09:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                    
  03/10/93              (S)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  03/17/93              (S)   STA AT 09:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                    
  03/17/93              (S)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  03/18/93       845    (S)   STA RPT  CS  1DP 3NR SAME TITLE                  
  03/18/93       846    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE TO SB & CS                      
                              (S.STA/GOV)                                      
  04/12/93              (S)   FIN AT 09:00 AM SENATE FIN 518                   
  04/12/93              (S)   MINUTE(FIN)                                      
  04/14/93      1353    (S)   FIN RPT    6DP 1NR (STA)CS                       
  04/14/93      1354    (S)   PREVIOUS ZERO FN (S.STA/GOV)                     
  04/14/93      1353    (S)   LETTER OF INTENT WITH FIN                        
                              REPORT                                           
  04/13/93              (S)   MINUTE(FIN)                                      
  04/14/93              (S)   FIN AT 08:30 AM SENATE FIN 518                   
  04/14/93              (S)   MINUTE(FIN)                                      
  04/14/93              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  04/17/93              (S)   MINUTE(SSA)                                      
  04/23/93      1693    (S)   RULES 3 CAL 1NR    4/23/93                       
  04/23/93      1694    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  04/23/93      1694    (S)   STA  CS ADOPTED UNAN CONSENT                     
  04/23/93      1695    (S)   ADVANCE TO THIRD READING                         
                              FAILED Y12 N8                                    
  04/23/93      1695    (S)   THIRD READING 4/24  CALENDAR                     
  04/24/93      1741    (S)   READ THE THIRD TIME CSSB
                              128(STA)                                         
  04/24/93      1741    (S)   (S) ADOPTED FIN                                  
                              LETTER OF INTENT                                 
  04/24/93      1741    (S)   PASSED Y20 N-                                    
  04/24/93      1746    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  04/27/93      1552    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  04/27/93      1552    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                           
  01/29/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 363                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: NO FEE FOR CAR REGISTRATION IN PERSON                           
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) KOTT,B.Davis                                   
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  01/11/94      2033    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/94      2033    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                           
  01/13/94      2056    (H)   COSPONSOR(S):  B. DAVIS                          
  01/29/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 40                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS                                     
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) SANDERS,Olberg,Green,Kott                      
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  04/13/93      1178    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  04/13/93      1178    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY                         
  04/20/93      1387    (H)   CORRECTION TO ORIGINAL SPONSORS:                 
  04/20/93      1387    (H)   SANDERS, OLBERG                                  
  04/22/93      1449    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): GREEN                              
  05/01/93      1641    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): KOTT                               
  01/18/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/18/94              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/29/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-6, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. on                   
  January 30, 1994.  Members present Representatives B. Davis,                 
  Olberg, G. Davis and Kott.  Representative Sanders was                       
  present via teleconference from Anchorage.                                   
  SB 128 - LEGISLATIVE AUDITS                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS, CHAIR OF THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE                       
  BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, SPONSOR OF SB 128, stated the                    
  purpose of SB 128 was to authorize a formal process to                       
  follow up on audits.                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 074                                                                   
                                                                               
  RANDY WELKER, LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR, LEGISLATIVE AUDIT                         
  DIVISION, LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AGENCY, testified in support                   
  of SB 128.  He said that the Legislative Audit Division                      
  issues many audits each year and does not have the ability                   
  to follow-up.  He continued to explained that SB 128 would                   
  put in place a formal mechanism that would involve the                       
  Office of Management and Budget (OMB).  The  bill, in                        
  Section 1, provides for the Legislative Budget and Audit                     
  Committee to make referrals to OMB that merit monitoring.                    
  Section 2 states that OMB will follow up on any                              
  recommendations referred to them.  If the agencies have                      
  agreed with the recommendations, they are required to                        
  monitor the implementation.  If the agencies have disagreed                  
  to the recommendations, OMB is responsible for getting                       
  agency to implement the recommendation or go back to                         
  Legislative Budget and Audit (LBA) with an alternative                       
  solution.  Each year they would be required to submit a                      
  report to the LBA detailing the status of any recommendation                 
  referred to them for monitoring, thus improving                              
  accountability.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 131                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR PHILLIPS said the bill would provide continuity.                     
                                                                               
  Number 170                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented on the difference between the 1993                  
  fiscal note and the zero fiscal note from 1994.                              
                                                                               
  Number 175                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WELKER said he supported a zero fiscal note.                             
                                                                               
  Number 222                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commended the committee adopt a zero fiscal                   
  note for SB 128.                                                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked Mr. Welker what the governor's                     
  response was to SB 128.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 238                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WELKER said there was no strong objection to the bill.                   
                                                                               
  Number 276                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked for clarification on Section 2.                         
                                                                               
  Number 305                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WELKER explained that Section 1 states the LBA Committee                 
  can identify an item for monitoring, and Section 2 outlines                  
  the responsibility of the OMB to review those items.                         
                                                                               
  Number 359                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked Mr. Welker what percentage of                      
  total requests are special audit requests.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 365                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WELKER said that one out of thirty audits is a special                   
  audit request.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 400                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR PHILLIPS reiterated the importance of having a                       
  mechanism in place to follow up on the implementation of                     
  audit requests.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 421                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT aired his skepticism on the role of the                  
  Office of Management and Budget.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 432                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WELKER told Representative Kott that there is a                          
  reporting mechanism in the bill for the Office of Management                 
  and Budget to report to the auditors and the Budget and                      
  Audit Committee detailing the degree of implementation of                    
  items referred to them.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 445                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked for further questions.  Hearing none,                   
  he announced that SB 128 would be heard February 8, 1994, to                 
  allow for an opportunity for the Office of Management and                    
  Budget to testify.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 454                                                                   
                                                                               
  NINA MAGNISON testified from Eagle River on SB 128.  She                     
  said the job should be done by independent audit.                            
  HB 363 - NO FEE FOR CAR REGISTRATION IN PERSON                               
                                                                               
  Number 475                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 363, presented                 
  the bill by stating it simply repeals the ten dollar                         
  surcharge levied against citizens of Alaska that choose to                   
  conduct their business with the state in person.                             
                                                                               
  Number 509                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG stated he supported HB 363 and he                      
  would support a five dollar fee for all those who register                   
  vehicles.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 513                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY responded to Representative Olberg's comment                  
  by asking if the committee should not concern itself with                    
  scheduling HB 317.  He further noted that the committee                      
  would address the issue of adjusting fees when dealing with                  
  HB 328.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 517                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG responded in the affirmative.                          
                                                                               
  Number 525                                                                   
                                                                               
  SAM MEDSKER testified from Fairbanks in support of HB 363.                   
                                                                               
  Number 556                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS testified in support of HB 363 from                   
  Anchorage.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 563                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAY DELANEY, DIRECTOR OF MOTOR VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF                       
  PUBLIC SAFETY, testified in opposition to HB 363.  He said,                  
  since the inception of the ten dollar fee, the amount of                     
  those registering by mail went from thirty to sixty percent.                 
  He went on to explain the difficulty of the Division of                      
  Motor Vehicles to efficiently and expeditiously serve the                    
  amount of people who registered in the division offices.                     
                                                                               
  Number 619                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if Mr. Delaney was prepared to provide                  
  a breakdown of time on services.                                             
                                                                               
  Number  621                                                                  
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY responded that vehicle registration is comprised                 
  of about twenty percent of the overall time.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 628                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT pointed out that no additional personnel                 
  was added to process the mail-out applications.  He                          
  continued by stating that the same amount of processing time                 
  was used to process applications whether it be by mail or in                 
  person and he questioned what the department was gaining by                  
  the mail-out.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 640                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY responded by pointing out that the mail-out                      
  keeps people out of lines.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 648                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS commented on problems with late                      
  registration and asked Mr. Delaney for a comment regarding                   
  that.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 657                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY said the department currently has a policy in                    
  place that waives the ten dollar fee if an individual is                     
  required, by the department, to be in the office.  He went                   
  on to say that if there is reasonable cause for a person to                  
  come to the office, it is at the discretion of the office to                 
  waive the ten dollar fee.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 683                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG asked if the department had any                        
  comment on the possibility of a five dollar fee for all                      
  those registering to cover the loss if the ten dollar fee                    
  was repealed.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 691                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY said the reason there was a ten dollar fee was                   
  for those who could use the mail-out program and didn't, and                 
  so the department would not have to increase the fee on                      
  everyone.                                                                    
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-6, SIDE B                                                            
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said that people should not be penalized                 
  for face-to-face public service.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 020                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY said the department's business continues to                      
  increase every year from two to five percent and staffing                    
  levels are below what they were ten years ago, which hinders                 
  the ability of the department to keep up with the work load                  
  or purchase new equipment.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 059                                                                   
                                                                               
  NINA MAGNISON testified from Eagle River in support of                       
  HB 363 and asked Mr. Delaney how much overtime was paid to                   
  employees working on mail-outs.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 093                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DELANEY said the department was not funded for overtime                  
  and employees were not paid overtime.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 111                                                                   
                                                                               
  FREDRICK HEINZ testified from Gakona in support of HB 363.                   
                                                                               
  Number 129                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG suggested that HB 363 be discussed in                  
  a subcommittee.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 145                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said he had no objection.                                
  Number 157                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG suggested that the subcommittee                        
  discuss and review the fiscal note on HB 363 and perhaps                     
  work with the subcommittee to review HB 328.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 169                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT suggested that Representative Olberg                     
  head the subcommittee.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 173                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY announced that HB 363 would be heard again                    
  with HB 328 on February 8, 1994.                                             
  Number  180                                                                  
                                                                               
  HAROLD HUME testified from Fairbanks in support of HB 363.                   
                                                                               
  Number 237                                                                   
                                                                               
  DEANNA CHRYSUP testified in support of HB 363.                               
                                                                               
  Number 249                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAN HILL, THE OFFICE, testified from Petersburg in support                   
  of HB 363 and said the ten dollar fee was a burden on her                    
  business.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 283                                                                   
                                                                               
  DOUGLAS MILLARD testified from Wasilla in support of HB 363.                 
                                                                               
  Number 302                                                                   
                                                                               
  PEARL MILLARD testified from Wasilla in support of HB 363.                   
  Number 311                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARK HEINZ testified from Gakona in support of HB 363.                       
                                                                               
  Number 335                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY concluded taking testimony on HB 363.                         
                                                                               
  HJR 40 - RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS                                         
                                                                               
  Number 342                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAN PORTWINE testified from Fairbanks in support of HJR 40.                  
                                                                               
  Number 365                                                                   
                                                                               
  BUD SIMMONS testified from Fairbanks in support of HJR 40.                   
                                                                               
  Number 406                                                                   
                                                                               
  LES ZETTERBERG testified from Ward Cove in support of                        
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 428                                                                   
                                                                               
  GEORGE CHIPMAN testified from Ketchikan in support of HJR 40                 
  and suggested a wording change.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 460                                                                   
                                                                               
  K.E. Farrow testified from Delta Junction in support of                      
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 475                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SANDERS, PRIME SPONSOR OF HJR 40,                       
  testified from Anchorage in support of HJR 40.                               
                                                                               
  Number 507                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHARLES GRIFFIN testified from Anchorage in support of                       
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 573                                                                   
                                                                               
  EUGENE MURPHY testified from Anchorage in support of HJR 40.                 
                                                                               
  Number 601                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARK CHRYSON testified from Wasilla on behalf of GUN OWNERS                  
  OF AMERICA in support of HJR 40.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 652                                                                   
                                                                               
  DOUG MILLARD testified from Wasilla in support of HJR 40.                    
                                                                               
  Number 668                                                                   
                                                                               
  MIKE KAZMIERCZMAK testified from Barrow in support of                        
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 680                                                                   
                                                                               
  GILBERT CROSS testified from Barrow on behalf of himself and                 
  his wife in support of HJR 40.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 689                                                                   
                                                                               
  REXENE OLSON testified from Kodiak on behalf of herself, her                 
  family, and KODIAK ISLAND NRA GRASS ROOTS in support of                      
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-7, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN CARLY testified from Eagle River in support of HJR 40.                  
                                                                               
  Number 031                                                                   
                                                                               
  ALLEN DUARD testified from Eagle River in support of HJR 40.                 
                                                                               
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  HELEN McCOLLUM testified from Tok on behalf of TOK SHOOTERS                  
  ASSOCIATION in support of HJR 40.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 120                                                                   
                                                                               
  AUSTIN MAHALKEY testified from Glennallen in support of                      
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 139                                                                   
                                                                               
  SAM MEDSKER testified from Fairbanks in support of HJR 40.                   
                                                                               
  Number 178                                                                   
                                                                               
  BILL HAGAR testified from Fairbanks on behalf of the ALASKA                  
  WILDLIFE CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION in support of HJR 40, and                  
  requested that the committee add the preamble on SJR 39,                     
  lines 1 through 5.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 248                                                                   
                                                                               
  BOB BRUMLOW testified from Anchorage in support of HJR 40.                   
                                                                               
  Number 287                                                                   
                                                                               
  LOREANE JONES testified from Anchorage in support of HJR 40.                 
                                                                               
  Number 337                                                                   
                                                                               
  DOUG MALLETTE testified from Soldotna in support of HJR 40                   
  and asked Chairman Vezey where state militia was defined.                    
                                                                               
  Number 354                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY responded it was Alaska Statute 26.05.010.                    
                                                                               
  Number 361                                                                   
                                                                               
  SCOTT CORYELL testified from Ward Cove in support of HJR 40,                 
  and said he would prefer SJR 39 pass the legislature.                        
                                                                               
  Number 376                                                                   
                                                                               
  ELZIE ISLEY testified from Ketchikan in support of HJR 40.                   
                                                                               
  Number 389                                                                   
  GREG MACHACEK testified from North Pole in support of                        
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 430                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY announced that HJR 40 would be rescheduled to                 
  be heard February 12, 1994, along with HB 351.                               
                                                                               
  Number 441                                                                   
                                                                               
  HAROLD HUME testified from Fairbanks in support of HJR 40                    
  with a rewording of SJR 39.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 484                                                                   
                                                                               
  RICHARD LYSTAD, JR. testified from Ketchikan in support of                   
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 511                                                                   
                                                                               
  NOEL WOODS testified from Palmer on behalf of MATSU VALLEY                   
  SPORTSMAN in support of HJR 40.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 537                                                                   
                                                                               
  DEANNA CHRYSUP testified in support of HJR 40.                               
                                                                               
  Number 542                                                                   
                                                                               
  KURT MOSES testified from Eagle River in support of HJR 40                   
  and noted that he supported the wording in SJR 39.                           
                                                                               
  Number 559                                                                   
                                                                               
  PHYLLIS YETKA testified from Eagle River in support of                       
  HJR 40.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 567                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAVE STANCLIFF representing ALASKANS UNITED testified from                   
  Tok in support of HJR 40.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 583                                                                   
                                                                               
  GIOVANNI TALLINO president of KODIAK ISLAND SPORTSMAN                        
  ASSOCIATION testified from Kodiak in support of HJR 40.                      
                                                                               
  Number 617                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY concluded the meeting at 10:15 a.m.                           

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