04/10/2018 05:00 PM House RULES
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| SB63 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | SB 63 | TELECONFERENCED | |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE RULES STANDING COMMITTEE
April 10, 2018
5:15 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair
Representative Matt Claman, Vice Chair
Representative Sam Kito
Representative Louise Stutes
Representative Mike Chenault
Representative David Eastman
Representative Lora Reinbold
Representative Charisse Millett (alternate)
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Chris Tuck (alternate)
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT
Representative Justin Parish
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins
Representative Scott Kawasaki
Representative Gary Knopp
Representative George Rauscher
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 14(FIN) AM
"An Act relating to transportation network companies and
transportation network company drivers; and providing for an
effective date."
- MOVED HCS CSSB 14(RLS) OUT OF COMMITTEE
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 63(FIN)
"An Act prohibiting smoking in certain places; relating to
education on the smoking prohibition; and providing for an
effective date."
- MOVED HCS CSSB 63(RLS) OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 14
SHORT TITLE: TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COSTELLO
01/18/17 (S) PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/17
01/18/17 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/18/17 (S) L&C, FIN
02/02/17 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/02/17 (S) Heard & Held
02/02/17 (S) MINUTE(L&C)
02/09/17 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/09/17 (S) Moved CSSB 14(L&C) Out of Committee
02/09/17 (S) MINUTE(L&C)
02/10/17 (S) L&C RPT CS 2DP 3NR SAME TITLE
02/10/17 (S) DP: COSTELLO, HUGHES
02/10/17 (S) NR: MEYER, STEVENS, GARDNER
02/13/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
02/13/17 (S) Heard & Held
02/13/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
02/15/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
02/15/17 (S) Heard & Held
02/15/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
03/02/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
03/02/17 (S) <Above Item Removed from Agenda>
03/02/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
03/06/17 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/06/17 (H) <Bill Hearing Canceled>
03/07/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
03/07/17 (S) Moved CSSB 14(FIN) Out of Committee
03/07/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
03/08/17 (S) FIN RPT CS 1DP 6NR NEW TITLE
03/08/17 (S) DP: MACKINNON
03/08/17 (S) NR: HOFFMAN, BISHOP, VON IMHOF,
DUNLEAVY, OLSON, MICCICHE
03/10/17 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/10/17 (H) <Bill Hearing Canceled>
03/23/17 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
03/23/17 (S) VERSION: CSSB 14(FIN) AM
03/24/17 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/24/17 (H) L&C
03/31/17 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/31/17 (H) Moved HCS CSSB 14(L&C) Out of Committee
03/31/17 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
04/03/17 (H) L&C RPT HCS(L&C) 4DP 2AM
04/03/17 (H) DP: SULLIVAN-LEONARD, WOOL, BIRCH, KITO
04/03/17 (H) AM: JOSEPHSON, KNOPP
04/03/17 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
04/03/17 (H) <Bill Hearing Canceled>
04/09/18 (H) RLS WAIVED PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, RULE
23(A) UC
04/10/18 (H) RLS AT 5:00 PM BUTROVICH 205
BILL: SB 63
SHORT TITLE: REGULATION OF SMOKING
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) MICCICHE
02/17/17 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/17/17 (S) HSS, FIN
03/01/17 (S) HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
03/01/17 (S) Moved SB 63 Out of Committee
03/01/17 (S) MINUTE(HSS)
03/03/17 (S) HSS RPT 5DP
03/03/17 (S) DP: WILSON, BEGICH, VON IMHOF, GIESSEL,
MICCICHE
03/13/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
03/13/17 (S) Heard & Held
03/13/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
03/20/17 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
03/20/17 (S) Moved CSSB 63(FIN) Out of Committee
03/20/17 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
03/21/17 (S) FIN RPT CS 6DP 1NR SAME TITLE
03/21/17 (S) DP: HOFFMAN, MACKINNON, BISHOP, VON
IMHOF, OLSON, MICCICHE
03/21/17 (S) NR: DUNLEAVY
03/27/17 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
03/27/17 (S) VERSION: CSSB 63(FIN)
03/29/17 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/29/17 (H) CRA, JUD
04/13/17 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124
04/13/17 (H) Heard & Held
04/13/17 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
04/18/17 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124
04/18/17 (H) Heard & Held
04/18/17 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
04/25/17 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124
04/25/17 (H) Heard & Held
04/25/17 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
04/27/17 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124
04/27/17 (H) Moved HCS CSSB 63(CRA) Out of Committee
04/27/17 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
04/28/17 (H) CRA RPT HCS(CRA) 3DP 3NR 1AM
04/28/17 (H) DP: TALERICO, DRUMMOND, PARISH
04/28/17 (H) NR: WESTLAKE, SADDLER, RAUSCHER
04/28/17 (H) AM: FANSLER
01/22/18 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
01/22/18 (H) Heard & Held
01/22/18 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
01/24/18 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
01/24/18 (H) Moved HCS CSSB 63(JUD) Out of Committee
01/24/18 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
01/26/18 (H) JUD RPT HCS(JUD) 4DP 1NR 2AM
01/26/18 (H) DP: KOPP, KREISS-TOMKINS, FANSLER,
CLAMAN
01/26/18 (H) NR: REINBOLD
01/26/18 (H) AM: EASTMAN, LEDOUX
01/29/18 (H) RLS AT 6:15 PM CAPITOL 106
01/30/18 (H) RLS AT 0:00 AM CAPITOL 106
01/30/18 (H) -- Rescheduled to 02/01/18 --
02/01/18 (H) RLS AT 0:00 AM CAPITOL 106
02/01/18 (H) -- Rescheduled to 02/5/18 --
02/05/18 (H) RLS AT 0:00 AM CAPITOL 106
02/05/18 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
04/09/18 (H) RLS WAIVED PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, RULE
23(A)
04/10/18 (H) RLS AT 5:00 PM BUTROVICH 205
WITNESS REGISTER
COURTNEY ENRIGHT, Staff
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained the change proposed under the
proposed House committee substitute (HCS) for CSSB 14, Version
30-LS0250\P, Wallace, 4/4/18.
COURTNEY ENRIGHT, Staff
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained the changes proposed under the
proposed House committee substitute (HCS) for CSSB 63, Version
30-LS0024\L, Martin, 4/9/18.
ACTION NARRATIVE
5:15:08 PM
CHAIR GABRIELLE LEDOUX called the House Rules Standing Committee
meeting to order at 5:15 p.m. Representatives Eastman,
Reinbold, Stutes, Claman, Kito, Chenault, and LeDoux were
present at the call to order. Representative Millett
(alternate) was present in the room. Also present were
Representatives Parish, Kreiss-Tomkins, Kawasaki, Knopp, and
Rauscher.
SB 14-TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES
5:16:12 PM
CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the first order of business would be
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 14(FIN) am, "An Act relating to
transportation network companies and transportation network
company drivers; and providing for an effective date." [Before
the committee was HCS CSSB 14(L&C).]
5:16:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN moved to adopt the proposed House
committee substitute (HCS) for CSSB 14, Version 30-LS0250\P,
Wallace, 4/4/18, as a working document.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected.
REPRESENTATIVE KITO objected.
5:16:38 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN spoke to his objection. He said he
thought "the bill accomplished what I wanted it to last year
when we passed it" and he does not want to change it.
5:16:49 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KITO spoke to his objection. He said he had not
heard about the proposed change until yesterday and had not seen
Version P until today. He echoed Representative Eastman's
appreciation of the work that had been done on the bill last
year [in the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee] when
the issue of sales tax applicability had been vetted. He
indicated that the issue is whether or not the legislature may
need to provide more provisions for municipalities to be able to
implement or collect sales tax through transportation network
companies (TNCs). He expressed concern that this topic is being
brought up in the last week of legislative session when the
issue could have been discussed over the last three months. He
further expressed concern that there would be little public
involvement regarding the change proposed [under Version P], and
he opined this change should go through the full legislative
process.
5:18:06 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Claman, Stutes,
Chenault, Reinbold, and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to
adopt the proposed HCS for CSSB 14, Version 30-LS0250\P,
Wallace, 4/4/18, as a working document. Representatives Kito
and Eastman voted against it. Therefore, by a vote of 5-2,
Version P was before the committee as a working document.
5:18:50 PM
COURTNEY ENRIGHT, Staff, Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Alaska
State Legislature, explained the change proposed under Version P
is a technical one that would allow [municipalities to require]
TNCs to collect [and pay] a municipal sales tax on behalf of
their drivers.
5:19:12 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KITO requested the committee hear testimony from
representatives of TNCs.
CHAIR LEDOUX informed Representative Kito that the committee
would not be hearing invited testimony.
5:19:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT asked if municipalities in Juneau or
other places in the state collect sales tax on cab fares.
5:19:56 PM
MS. ENRIGHT offered her understanding that is correct.
5:20:14 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KITO expressed concern about making the proposed
change without hearing from people on the record saying that
"this is something that they really want."
CHAIR LEDOUX indicated there are two letters in the committee
packet - one from the City & Borough of Juneau (CBJ) and one
from the Alaska Municipal League - "supporting this bill in its
current form."
REPRESENTATIVE KITO noted that as chair of the House Labor and
Commerce Standing Committee, he provides the opportunity for
invited testimony, and he requested the opportunity be provided
by the House Rules Standing Committee.
CHAIR LEDOUX reiterated there would be no invited testimony on
SB 14.
REPRESENTATIVE KITO asked for public testimony to be offered.
CHAIR LEDOUX responded there would be no public testimony today.
REPRESENTATIVE KITO posited therefore that there was not
adequate feedback to support [Version P].
5:21:32 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked if Version P would affect the types
of taxes that could be collected. He offered his understanding
that currently the only type of situation that would create a
tax is when a fare originates within a municipality. He asked
if that would remain the same under Version P.
MS. ENRIGHT answered that she does not know what is allowed
currently in terms of generating taxes; however, she said she
does know that "nothing in this bill changes the existing
requirements."
REPRESENTATIVE KITO acknowledged that Juneau is one of the
communities he represents, and he said he had not seen the
aforementioned letter from CBJ until receiving the committee
packet. He stated for the record that CBJ did not contact him
prior to the meeting to discuss the issue with him.
5:23:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN expressed that his district had
significant transportation issues and was hopeful that passage
of the proposed legislation would "permit people to travel in
ways that they otherwise wouldn't be able to." He said he would
be opposing [Version P] because it would only serve to decrease
transportation opportunities for his constituents.
5:23:40 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN moved to report HCS CSSB 14, Version 30-
LS0250\P, Wallace, 4/4/18, out of committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
REPRESENTATIVE KITO objected.
5:23:57 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Reinbold, Claman,
Stutes, Chenault, and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to
report HCS CSSB 14, Version 30-LS0250\P, Wallace, 4/4/18, out of
committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying
fiscal notes. Representatives Kito and Eastman voted against
it. Therefore, HCS CSSB 64(RLS) was reported out of the House
Rules Standing Committee by a vote of 5-2.
5:24:28 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 5:24 p.m. to 5:27 p.m.
SB 63-REGULATION OF SMOKING
5:27:45 PM
CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the final order of business would be
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 63(FIN), "An Act prohibiting smoking in
certain places; relating to education on the smoking
prohibition; and providing for an effective date." [Before the
committee was HCS CSSB 63(JUD).]
5:28:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN moved to adopt the proposed House
committee substitute (HCS) for CSSB 63, Version 30-LS0024\L,
Martin, 4/9/18, as a working document.
REPRESENTATIVE KITO objected.
5:28:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KITO stated concern about the "opt out"
provision, the removal of vaping and e-cigarettes, and the
removal of marijuana regulation. He said these issues were
discussed in other committees, agreements were made, and there
was enough support for "the bill as it sits on the House floor."
He stated he does not appreciate the changes under Version L
being proposed at this late date.
5:29:02 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD echoed Representative Kito's comments.
5:29:24 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT spoke about committee process, and he
stated that while he may not agree with the proposed version of
the bill, there is nothing wrong with the process that was used
to create it.
5:30:08 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN said, "I lost count awhile back of how
many constituents were asking for some of these exact changes,
so, I'm glad that we're discussing them tonight."
5:30:28 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Eastman, Claman,
Stutes, Chenault, and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to
adopt the proposed HCS for CSSB 63, Version 30-LS0024\L, Martin,
4/9/18, as a working document. Representatives Reinbold and
Kito voted against it. Therefore, by a vote of 5-2, Version L
was before the committee as a working document.
5:31:02 PM
COURTNEY ENRIGHT, Staff, Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Alaska
State Legislature, explained Version L offers three substantive
changes. It would: allow municipalities to opt out and allow
established villages to go through a process to petition for a
self-regulation and opt-out provision; remove vaping and e-
cigarettes from regulation under SB 63; and remove regulation of
marijuana from the purview of the smoke-free workplace bill.
5:31:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT observed there was no fiscal note
accompanying the proposed legislation.
MS. ENRIGHT responded, "I believe the department is working on
an updated fiscal note, perhaps for the Rules' CS, but I don't
have any reason to believe that these changes would necessarily
add a fiscal cost. I don't know."
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT said he had been told that. He noted
that someone had written a letter of concern to him. He said
[Senator Micciche], prime sponsor, had told him that the state
would not have to provide signs. Conversely, he cited language
on page 6, line 9, which read as follows:
(c) The department shall furnish signs required
under this section to a person who requests them with
the intention of displaying them.
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT said he does not know what that cost is
but had heard it could be as high as $20,000. He said he would
like to know how much the State of Alaska would have to pay.
5:33:31 PM
CHAIR LEDOUX indicated that she shares Representative Chenault's
concerns, which were discussed at length in the House Judiciary
Standing Committee. She said the bill sponsor has said the bill
has such a light enforcement footprint that it would not cost
the state anything. She said she has many concerns regarding
the proposed legislation and is extending an olive branch by
proposing Version L so that a "reasonable form" of the
legislation can make it to the House floor.
5:34:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked for confirmation that under
Version L, vaping and marijuana would be allowed in the
workplace and opt-outs would gut the bill.
5:34:42 PM
MS. ENRIGHT said she would not speak to the third part, because
she said that is a policy call for the committee. She continued
as follows:
But I will say that this doesn't speak necessarily to
every work place; it says that vaping and marijuana
usage are not going to be regulated under SB 63, as it
is currently. There may be other provisions in other
parts of law that can speak to those issues. In fact,
I know that there are pieces of legislation before the
body that address that, but that is what this bill
does: it removes vaping and it removes marijuana from
the purview of this legislation.
5:35:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT proffered that there are a lot of
reasons someone cannot have a tobacco shop next to a mall, for
example, if the ventilation system is shared. He posed a
scenario where "a marijuana place" and "a tobacco place" are
next to each other, and he said, "I don't know what regulations
apply to that."
CHAIR LEDOUX responded, "Well, I guess we have a [Department of
Environmental Conservation] (DEC) that might come up for some."
5:36:07 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN noted that there had been discussions
about an opt-in clause, which would have required anybody who
wanted to have a smoke-free workplace to opt in, which would
require each municipality to vote to participate. He clarified
that the opt-out clause means the provision would be statewide
except for those municipalities that vote to opt out. He said
he doesn't think it would gut the bill.
5:37:02 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD ask if the opting out would have to be
done via election or formal voting process.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN answered yes.
5:37:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN moved to adopt Amendment 1, labeled 30-
LS0024\L.1, Martin, 4/10/18, which read as follows:
Page 4, lines 16 - 21:
Delete all material and insert:
"(g) Notwithstanding (a) and (b) of this
section, an individual may smoke at
(1) a private club if the private club
(A) has been in continuous operation at the
same location since January 1, 2017;
(B) is not licensed to serve alcoholic
beverages; and
(C) is not a place of employment; or
(2) a business or place of employment that
is
(A) operated or staffed entirely by
volunteers;
(B) a sole proprietorship; or
(C) operated or staffed entirely by the
immediate family members of the owner; in this
subparagraph, "immediate family member" means a
spouse, child, sibling, parent, grandparent,
grandchild, stepparent, stepchild, or stepsibling."
Page 12, line 12:
Delete "or works for a business as a volunteer
without compensation"
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN spoke to Amendment 1. He said if
Amendment 1 passes, he would gladly [not offer] Amendments 2 and
3. He said some people have accused SB 63 of being a bill to
ban smoking outright. He said the primary concern of the bill
is to ban smoking in workplaces, because "the relationship
between employers and employees is distinct and significant" and
if employees must, as a condition of their jobs, endure a smoke-
filled workplace, then they are put at a disadvantage. He said
Amendment 1 would remove from the bill "those workplaces that
aren't workplaces" and have no employees. He recommended those
who want to ban smoking outright vote against Amendment 1 while
those who want to protect employees vote for it. He indicated
some examples of situations in which there are no employees:
only volunteers working; a sole proprietorship with no
employees; and only family members working together. He said
Amendment 1 would protect volunteers, because "the volunteer
relationship is ... distinctly different than the
employer/employee relationship."
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN said there are volunteers who smoke and
are willing to "give up their time without any kind of
compensation," and without Amendment 1, those volunteers are
being told, "If you want to smoke then we don't want your
volunteer time; you'll have to go somewhere else." He
concluded, "And if you have a situation where volunteers are all
choosing to smoke and there's no pressure put on anyone to do
so, then I think we should recognize that we do value their time
and their opportunity to serve, and this simply clarifies that
they can continue to do so under this bill."
CHAIR LEDOUX said she supports Amendment 1, because it clarifies
that sole proprietors and volunteers are not covered by the
bill. She offered her understanding that SB 63 is not intended
to ban smoking but to make sure that employees have a healthful
workplace.
5:41:35 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN opined that Amendment 1 is poor policy and
would not provide any protection of employees. He said under
Amendment 1, when there is a sole proprietor of a bar, anyone
could smoke at the bar.
5:42:24 PM
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES stated opposition to Amendment 1, because
she said she doesn't know how such a provision could even be
enforced.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN, in recognition of the comments that had
been made, offered a conceptual amendment to Amendment 1, which
would - following "a sole proprietorship;" - change "or" to
"and". He said with this change "the situation put forward by
Representative Claman would, in fact, not be the case" and "the
only types of sole proprietorships that we're talking about in
the amendment are those that fall under the other categories."
5:43:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected to Conceptual Amendment 1 to
Amendment 1.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN stated, "Since that completely resolves
the original concern, I have to conclude ... that the intent is
simply to ban smoking outright, and that is not something that I
support or that my constituents support, so I will be supporting
the amendment."
5:44:19 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD said she does not believe that voting no
[on Conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment 1] means smoking would
be banned "in every private place and household and everything."
5:44:36 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Chenault, Eastman,
and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to adopt Conceptual
Amendment 1 to Amendment 1. Representatives Reinbold, Claman,
and Stutes voted against it. Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1
to Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 3-3.
5:45:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN withdrew his motion to adopt Amendment 1.
5:45:58 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN moved to adopt Amendment 2, which read as
follows:
Page 4, lines 16 - 21:
Delete all material and insert:
"(g) Notwithstanding (a) and (b) of this
section, an individual may smoke at
(1) a private club if the private club
(A) has been in continuous operation at the
same location since January 1, 2017;
(B) is not licensed to serve alcoholic
beverages; and
(C) is not a place of employment; or
(2) a business or place of employment that is a sole
proprietorship and is operated or staffed entirely by
the immediate family members of the sole proprietor;
in this paragraph, "immediate family member" means a
spouse, child, sibling, parent, grandparent,
grandchild, stepparent, stepchild, or stepsibling."
5:46:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD called a point of order. She said
amendments must be timely, germane, and not dilatory, and she
opined that both Amendment 2 and Amendment 3 [not yet offered]
were dilatory. She asked that Chair LeDoux rule Amendments 1
and 2 out of order.
CHAIR LEDOUX stated that she did not believe they were out of
order.
5:46:28 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN spoke to Amendment 2. He said it focuses
on family and sole proprietorships - not on volunteers.
5:46:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN stated opposition to Amendment 2.
5:46:58 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Chenault, Eastman,
and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to adopt Amendment 2.
Representatives Reinbold, Claman, and Stutes voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 3-3.
5:47:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN moved to adopt Amendment 3, which read as
follows:
Page 4, lines 16 - 21:
Delete all material and insert:
"(g) Notwithstanding (a) and (b) of this
section, an individual may smoke at
(1) a private club if the private club
(A) has been in continuous operation at the
same location since January 1, 2017;
(B) is not licensed to serve alcoholic
beverages; and
(C) is not a place of employment; or
(2) a business or place of employment that
is operated or staffed entirely by volunteers."
Page 12, line 12:
Delete "or works for a business as a volunteer without
compensation"
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD objected and called a point of order.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN said, "I'll join Representative Reinbold's
point of order."
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD stated that it is clear the amendments
are almost identical. She added, "I do believe this is dilatory
and wasting precious time."
CHAIR LEDOUX responded that the point of order was not accepted.
5:48:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN spoke to Amendment 3. He said it would
focus on volunteers. He stated that if committee members want
to recognize that volunteers are not employees, then he asks
them to support Amendment 3 in recognition that "the focus of
this bill is - as it ought to be - focusing on workplaces and
employees and employers."
5:48:41 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD stated, "There is nothing ... that says
you want to ban smoking outright everywhere." She opined, "So,
once again, that is an absurd ... interpretation, and that is
not how I read this at all."
5:49:14 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Chenault, Eastman,
and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to adopt Amendment 3.
Representatives Stutes, Reinbold, and Claman voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 3 failed by a vote of 3-3.
5:49:42 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN moved to report HCS CSSB 63, Version 30-
LS0024\L, Martin, 4/9/18, out of committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying previous fiscal notes.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected.
5:50:06 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Claman, Chenault,
Reinbold, and LeDoux voted in favor of the motion to report HCS
CSSB 63, Version 30-LS0024\L, Martin, 4/9/18, out of committee
with individual recommendations and the accompanying previous
fiscal notes. Representatives Stutes and Eastman voted against
it. Therefore, HCS CSSB 63(RLS) was reported out of the House
Rules Standing Committee by a vote of 4-2.
5:50:50 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Rules Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 5:51 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HCS SB 14 Version P.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 14 |
| HCS SB14 Explanation of Changes.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 14 |
| HCS SB 14 Letter of Support - Alaska Municipal League.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 14 |
| HCS SB 14 Letter of Support - City Borough of Juneau.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 14 |
| HCS SB 63 Version L.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 63 |
| HCS SB63 Explanation of Changes.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 63 |
| HCS SB 63 Amendments.pdf |
HRLS 4/10/2018 5:00:00 PM |
SB 63 |