Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

04/17/2023 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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02:22:00 PM Presentation(s): Alaska's Mining Potential
03:13:00 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 17, 2023                                                                                         
                            2:21p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tom McKay, Chair                                                                                                 
Representative George Rauscher, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Donna Mears                                                                                                      
Representative Maxine Dibert                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Jennie Armstrong                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA'S MINING POTENTIAL                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRETT WATSON, PhD, Assistant Professor of Applied and Natural                                                                   
Resource Economics                                                                                                              
Institute of Social and Economic Research                                                                                       
University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered the Alaska's Mining Potential                                                                 
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BOB LOEFFLER, PhD, Research Professor of Public Policy                                                                          
Institute of Social and Economic Research                                                                                       
University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered the Alaska's Mining Potential                                                                 
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:21:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TOM MCKAY  called the  House Resources  Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order at 2:21  p.m.  Representatives Wright, Patkotak,                                                               
Mears,  Dibert, and  McKay were  present  at the  call to  order.                                                               
Representative Rauscher arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska's Mining Potential                                                                                    
          PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska's Mining Potential                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
2:22:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced that the only  order of business would be a                                                               
presentation on Alaska's Mining Potential.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:23:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRETT  WATSON, PhD,  Assistant Professor  of Applied  and Natural                                                               
Resource  Economics, Institute  of Social  and Economic  Research                                                               
(ISER),  University of  Alaska  Anchorage  (UAA), co-offered  the                                                               
PowerPoint  presentation,  titled   "Alaska's  Mining  Potential"                                                               
[hardcopy included in  the committee packet].  He  began on slide                                                               
2, which  provided disclosure statements  to preface the  rest of                                                               
the presentation.   He  moved to slide  3, which  explained three                                                               
key points of the presentation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:25:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB  LOEFFLER,   PhD,  Research   Professor  of   Public  Policy,                                                               
Institute of  Social and Economic Research,  University of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage, as co-presenter,  read slide 4 of  the Alaska's Mining                                                               
Potential  presentation, which  displayed  an image  of a  bucket                                                               
used to  convey the ratio of  income/export money in Alaska.   He                                                               
moved to  slide 5, which gave  a more detailed list  of important                                                               
sectors of  Alaska's economy.   Slides 6-7  displayed a  graph of                                                               
Alaska's  minerals as  an export  value.   He moved  to slide  8,                                                               
which highlighted  the wages, salaries,  and jobs created  by the                                                               
mining industry  in Alaska and on  to slides 9-10, both  of which                                                               
emphasized the  impact that the  mining industry has  on Alaska's                                                               
Government revenue.  He moved to slide  11, which gave a  list of                                                               
conclusions that might be drawn.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:30:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS asked how the  mining industry could attract                                                               
more local employees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:31:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOEFFLER  explained that Alaska's  large mine  operations are                                                               
employed by about 73 percent in-state employees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOEFFLER  resumed  the  presentation   on  slide  13,  which                                                               
explained  how   mining  operations   on  Alaska   Native  Claims                                                               
Settlement  Act (ANCSA)  lands provide  revenue to  Alaska Native                                                               
corporations.  He  read from slide 14, which gave  an overview of                                                               
the specific  types of mining  operations currently  occurring in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:33:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  WATSON  continued  the  presentation   on  slide  15,  which                                                               
displayed  a map  that gave  an overview  of six  of the  largest                                                               
currently active mining operations in  Alaska.  He moved to slide                                                               
16,  which  displayed a  map  that  gave  an overview  of  mining                                                               
explorations  and  advanced  mining   projects  in  Alaska.    He                                                               
continued to  slide 17, which  displayed a map that  detailed the                                                               
number of  placer mining  permits issued  to specific  regions of                                                               
Alaska in 2014.  He continued  to slide 18, which displayed a pie                                                               
chart of  minerals that  are being  extracted in  Alaska's mines.                                                               
Slide  19  explained  what  Alaska's minerals  are  used  for  in                                                               
commercial production.  He moved to  slide 20, which gave a brief                                                               
list of the future possibilities of mining in Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:38:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  WATSON  continued  the  presentation   on  slide  21,  which                                                               
outlined with a  series of bullet points the process  that a mine                                                               
must go through  from its inception to its actual  operation.  He                                                               
continued  through  slides  22-26,  each  of  which  individually                                                               
explained each point outlined on slide 21.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. WATSON  moved to  slide 27, which  displayed a  "hierarchy of                                                               
needs" that a mine is required  to have to succeed.  He continued                                                               
to slide  28, with two  maps of  Alaska, each of  which displayed                                                               
the  potential  of current  and  proposed  mine projects  in  the                                                               
state.   He moved through  slides 29-30, each of  which displayed                                                               
the previous  "hierarchy of  needs" that was  shown on  slide 27,                                                               
this time with added information  to relate the image to Alaska's                                                               
current situation in mining development.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:45:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   asked    whether   there   were   any                                                               
requirements lower  on a mine's  "hierarchy of needs"  that might                                                               
surpass a requirement higher on the pyramid.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOEFFLER  replied that it would  be possible for some  of the                                                               
items displayed lower on the pyramid to trump any one above it.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  WATSON used  the Pebble  Mine and  the Donlin  Gold Mine  as                                                               
examples of  mines that  were stopped  by permitting  before they                                                               
were allowed to begin an exploration stage.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  clarified that he was  trying to qualify                                                               
the term "less likely" in the context of the pyramid.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:48:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. WATSON resumed the presentation  on slide 31, which explained                                                               
a series  of future possibilities  for Alaska's  Mining industry.                                                               
He continued to slide 32,  which further elaborated on the future                                                               
possibilities  of  Alaska's  mining  industry  by  comparing  the                                                               
previous  slide's information  to the  previous pyramid  display.                                                               
He  moved through  slides 33-34,  each  described three  possible                                                               
scenarios that could result from the previous pyramid display.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. WATSON continued to slide  35, which displayed the results of                                                               
the study modeled around the  previously mentioned three possible                                                               
scenarios that  could result from  the previous  pyramid display.                                                               
He  moved  to slide  36,  which  outlined the  possibilities  for                                                               
mining  employment   in  each  scenario,  and   slide  37,  which                                                               
described the critical mineral supply that Alaska controls.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. WATSON  moved through  slides 38-39,  which displayed  a plot                                                               
graph  that outlined  the economic  importance  of each  valuable                                                               
mineral in  Alaska.   He continued to  slide 40,  which explained                                                               
what   commercial  products   could  be   produced  by   Alaska's                                                               
previously mentioned  critical minerals.   He moved to  slide 41,                                                               
which further  explained the  results of  the scenarios  posed in                                                               
the  study in  terms  of how  much energy  or  how many  critical                                                               
minerals  could  be  produced.    He moved  to  slide  42,  which                                                               
displayed a pie  graph of the minerals that  Alaska could produce                                                               
in the next 20 years, and  slide 43, which outlined the key take-                                                               
aways  from  the study  by  emphasizing  the impact  of  Alaska's                                                               
mining industry.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:00:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOEFFLER  continued  the presentation  on  slide  44,  which                                                               
explained  the potential  avenues the  legislature could  take to                                                               
enable further  mining projects  in Alaska,  and slide  45, which                                                               
displayed a map of current  proposed infrastructure projects that                                                               
could enable further  mining development in Alaska.   He moved to                                                               
slide 46,  which explained the  potential avenues  that executive                                                               
agencies in Alaska  could take to enable  further mining projects                                                               
in Alaska.  Slide 47 displayed  a graph that outlined the average                                                               
time  it takes  for  a project's  environmental impact  statement                                                               
(EIS) to be  completed.  He moved to slide  48, which displayed a                                                               
graph  that detailed  the National  Environmental  Policy Act  of                                                               
1969 (NEPA) reviews that have taken far longer than expected.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:04:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOEFFLER continued to slide  49, which further emphasized the                                                               
importance  of maintaining  an efficient  permitting regime  that                                                               
protects   the   environment   while  issuing   predictable   and                                                               
consistent permits  for projects.   He moved  to slide  50, which                                                               
gave  a  brief overview  of  the  previously mentioned  potential                                                               
avenues that could be taken to enable mining projects in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:06:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY asked  which two projects are most  pertinent for the                                                               
legislature to direct its efforts.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOEFFLER  replied that  the Donlin  Mine project  is critical                                                               
for Alaska  and said that  the Graphite Creek Project  outside of                                                               
Nome is also an important prospect for the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:08:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS  shared her understanding of  the process of                                                               
infrastructure  development  with  regard  to a  mine  and  asked                                                               
whether there was anything she was missing in her understanding.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:09:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOEFFLER confirmed  Representative  Mears' understanding  is                                                               
correct  and explained  the  timeline to  accomplish  any of  the                                                               
projects  in the  state is  extremely  slow; he  blamed the  long                                                               
timeline on Alaska's rigorous permitting process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS provided her  background as an environmental                                                               
engineer   and   asked   whether    there   were   any   specific                                                               
recommendations  to allow  for mining  projects  to move  forward                                                               
faster in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOEFFLER  replied  that  the  most  important  thing  is  to                                                               
streamline  the federal  environmental  review  process and  said                                                               
that  Alaska's executive  agencies  could  direct more  resources                                                               
toward mining as they had historically.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY made closing comments  and thanked the presenters for                                                               
their time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:13 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
ISER_house_res_4_17_23.pdf HRES 4/17/2023 1:00:00 PM
EconomicPotential_of_AKs_Mining.pdf HRES 4/17/2023 1:00:00 PM