Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/08/1994 08:15 AM House RES

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               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                              
                          April 8, 1994                                        
                            8:15 a.m.                                          
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
  Representative Bill Williams, Chairman                                       
  Representative Bill Hudson, Vice Chairman                                    
  Representative Con Bunde                                                     
  Representative Pat Carney                                                    
  Representative David Finkelstein                                             
  Representative Joe Green                                                     
  Representative Jeannette James                                               
  Representative Eldon Mulder                                                  
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
  Representative John Davies                                                   
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
  SCR 13:   Relating to the Gold Rush Centennial Decade.                       
            PASSED SCR 13 OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH INDIVIDUAL                     
  SCR 16:   Relating to release of nonproprietary geographic                   
            information system files in possession of the                      
            PASSED SCR 16 OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH INDIVIDUAL                     
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
  SENATOR BERT SHARP                                                           
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol, Room 514                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska   99801-1182                                                  
  Phone:  465-3004                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Prime Sponsor SCR 13                                    
  JO FENETY, Aide                                                              
  Senator Drue Pearce                                                          
  State Capitol, Room 508                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska   99801-1182                                                  
  Phone:  465-4993                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave sponsor statement on SCR 16                        
  DOUG SEGAR, Executive Director                                               
  University of Alaska, Anchorage                                              
  Environment and Natural Resource Institute                                   
  707 A Street                                                                 
  Anchorage, Alaska   99501                                                    
  Phone:  279-4523                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported SCR 16                                        
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
  BILL:  SCR 13                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: GOLD RUSH CENTENNIAL DECADE                                     
  SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S)SHARP,Miller,Frank,Taylor,Pearce,                      
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  02/02/94      2660    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/02/94      2660    (S)   RESOURCES                                        
  02/09/94              (S)   RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  02/14/94              (S)   RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  02/14/94              (S)   MINUTE(RES)                                      
  02/15/94              (S)   RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  02/15/94              (S)   MINUTE(RES)                                      
  02/18/94      2880    (S)   RES RPT  4DP                                     
  02/18/94      2881    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE PUBLISHED                       
  03/09/94              (S)   RLS AT 00:00 AM FAHRENKAMP                       
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  03/09/94              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/10/94      3147    (S)   RULES TO CALENDAR  3/10/94                       
  03/10/94      3155    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/10/94      3155    (S)   COSPONSOR(S): LINCOLN, LITTLE,                   
  03/10/94      3156    (S)   PASSED Y18 N- E2                                 
  03/10/94      3160    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/11/94      2711    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/11/94      2711    (H)   RESOURCES                                        
  04/08/94              (H)   RES AT 08:15 AM CAPITOL 124                      
  BILL:  SCR 16                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): FINANCE                                                          
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  02/14/94      2826    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/14/94      2826    (S)   RESOURCES                                        
  03/11/94              (S)   RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  03/14/94      3181    (S)   RES RPT  2DP 3NR                                 
  03/14/94      3181    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE PUBLISHED                       
  03/14/94              (S)   RLS AT 00:00 AM FAHRENKAMP                       
                              ROOM 203                                         
  03/14/94              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/18/94      3268    (S)   RULES RPT  4CAL 1NR                              
  03/18/94      3272    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/18/94      3273    (S)   PASSED Y15 N- E5                                 
  03/18/94      3278    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/21/94      2894    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/21/94      2894    (H)   RESOURCES                                        
  04/08/94              (H)   RES AT 08:15 AM CAPITOL 124                      
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
  TAPE 94-48, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
  The House Resources Committee was called to order by                         
  Chairman Bill Williams at 8:26 a.m.  Members present at the                  
  call to order were Representatives Williams, Hudson, Carney,                 
  Finkelstein, Green, and James.  Members absent were                          
  Representatives Bunde, Davies, and Mulder.                                   
  CHAIRMAN BILL WILLIAMS announced there is a quorum present.                  
  SCR 13 - Gold Rush Centennial Decade                                         
  SENATOR BERT SHARP, PRIME SPONSOR, stated the purpose of SCR
  13 is to underscore the importance of gold mining in the                     
  origin of the state.  Gold mining was the spark which fired                  
  Alaska's development.  He said SCR 13 recognizes the years,                  
  1994-2004 as the Gold Rush Centennial Decade and urges                       
  schools, public and private organizations, and the people of                 
  the state to coordinate statewide celebrations of the 100th                  
  anniversary.  He stressed a celebration of this nature will                  
  serve to reinstill an appreciation and point out the                         
  importance of gold and the fever of the gold rush era in                     
  shaping Alaska's history.  Hopefully, the refocusing will                    
  promote a higher level of pride in the state's past and                      
  enhance tourism opportunities.                                               
  SENATOR SHARP said in 1993, the governor and the lieutenant                  
  governor established the Alaska Gold Rush Centennial Task                    
  Force which now have over 124 active members from 25                         
  communities throughout Alaska.  He noted SCR 13 also                         
  recognizes the task force as the official coordinator and                    
  promoter of the statewide centennial activities.                             
  (CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted for the record that REPRESENTATIVE                  
  MULDER had joined the committee at 8:35 a.m.)                                
  Number 037                                                                   
  REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN felt on page 1, line 10, where it                   
  states "along with the prospectors came people, both honest                  
  and crooked," detracts from a very nice resolution.                          
  SENATOR SHARP said he would leave that determination up to                   
  the committee.                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES felt there is no point in                     
  white-washing the resolution.  She stated if something is                    
  going to be celebrated, the actual historical happenings                     
  should be celebrated.                                                        
  REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON noted that one of the major                       
  attractions in Skagway is the saga of Soapy Smith plus his                   
  burial grounds.  He felt the line under discussion adds                      
  color and is fine.                                                           
  REPRESENTATIVE PAT CARNEY also felt the line in question is                  
  out of place and not relative.                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a MOTION to MOVE SCR 13 out of                    
  committee with INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.                                   
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections.                        
  Hearing none, the MOTION PASSED.                                             
  Number 070                                                                   
  SCR 16 - Use of State Geographic Information                                 
  JO FENETY, AIDE, SENATOR DRUE PEARCE, stated the Geographic                  
  Information System (GIS) is a tool which is becoming the                     
  preeminent tool in finding out about land, environmental and                 
  natural resource decision making for agencies.  Through the                  
  years, state agencies have spent millions of dollars                         
  gathering this data.  She said much of the data is                           
  nonproprietary, yet it has been difficult to access.  She                    
  explained SCR 16 will allow access to the data by a                          
  university associated entity.                                                
  Number 085                                                                   
  stated GIS is becoming the method of storing and using                       
  environment and natural resource data.  GIS is a method of                   
  storing data in a computer which can be continuously updated                 
  and instantly printed out for use in decision making on an                   
  ongoing, timely basis.  He said GIS replaces the old data                    
  report and map which was updated once every two years.  The                  
  Environment and Natural Resource Institute has three public                  
  information programs including the Arctic Environmental                      
  Information and Data Center, the Alaska State Climate                        
  Center, and the Alaska Natural Heritage program.                             
  DR. SEGAR said the Environment and Natural Resource                          
  Institute is in the business of providing to the public and                  
  students environment and natural resource data related to                    
  the state and the arctic for various purposes.  The                          
  institute has approximately 300 requests a month for                         
  information, with the majority of requests coming from                       
  individuals or small businesses who are not able to spend                    
  the time or money to research where this information is.  He                 
  noted the institute has had a minor problem in recent years                  
  both with the federal government and state agencies in that                  
  now the information is being stored on computers, there is a                 
  tendency to think that the GIS files are works in progress                   
  and therefore, not at the point where they should be                         
  released.  He said there is a tendency to call them draft                    
  reports.  However, in practice these files are continuously                  
  updated, so they never will be finished.  He stated the                      
  institute needs assistance to ensure access.                                 
  DR. SEGAR noted the institute is designated as a                             
  (indiscernible) data base center and therefore has access to                 
  all of the United Nations environment program GIS files.                     
  The institute also has an agreement with the U.S. Geological                 
  Survey, who is the GIS leader in the federal government,                     
  giving the institute access to most and eventually all of                    
  the federal government GIS files.  The institute would like                  
  to be able to do the same with state information.                            
  Number 125                                                                   
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES asked if this program receives federal                  
  funds and if so, how will cuts in federal funding affect the                 
  DR. SEGAR responded there will be little effect.  The                        
  institute supplements its general fund appropriation about                   
  3-1 with federal funding.  That ratio has not changed over                   
  the years and there is no expectation of any change in the                   
  future.  He said the institute is quite capable of                           
  generating additional federal dollars, but it is felt that                   
  is not a very stable thing to do.  He stressed the institute                 
  is unable to accept all of the federal contracts which are                   
  offered.  He noted the institute has had to adopt an                         
  internal rule that contracts will not be accepted where the                  
  institute has to match with more than 20 percent state                       
  funding because the institute cannot then take in the same                   
  amount of federal dollars.  He noted that federal funding in                 
  this area is actually increasing.                                            
  Number 151                                                                   
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if the university and state data                 
  processing systems are now compatible.                                       
  DR. SEGAR replied yes.  He said in the GIS area, there is a                  
  standard software package which is not just standard in                      
  Alaska or the United States, but worldwide.                                  
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON stated this is an area that years ago                  
  much effort was put forth in trying to establish systems                     
  between the university and state agencies which were                         
  sufficiently compatible and there was resistance by the                      
  university.  He wondered if that problem has been rectified.                 
  DR. SEGAR responded at a number of levels the problem has                    
  been rectified, but he cannot say the problem has been                       
  eliminated completely.                                                       
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES made a MOTION to MOVE SCR 16 out of                     
  committee with INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.                                   
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections.                        
  Hearing none, the MOTION PASSED.                                             
  Number 180                                                                   
  (CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted for the record that REPRESENTATIVE                  
  BUNDE had joined the committee at 8:45 a.m.)                                 
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS stated the resumes of the ten Governor's                   
  appointees to various state boards and commissions had been                  
  distributed to each committee member.  He asked the                          
  committee to decide if they are prepared to make their                       
  decision regarding confirmation based on the individual's                    
  resume or if they would like to interview any of the                         
  individuals, either in person or by teleconference.  He said                 
  the committee will consider these appointments on Monday,                    
  April 11.                                                                    
  The committee decided the only two people they would like to                 
  interview are Richard Burley and Ed Grasser, appointees to                   
  the Board of Game.  However, the committee decided that each                 
  appointee should be on teleconference for questions and                      
  There being no further business to come before the House                     
  Resources Committee, Chairman Williams adjourned the meeting                 
  at 8:50 a.m.                                                                 

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