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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                  
                         April 13, 2021                                                                                         
                           1:03 p.m.                                                                                            
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Representative Chris Tuck, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Laddie Shaw                                                                                                      
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
HOUSE BILL NO. 144                                                                                                              
"An Act establishing the Alaska Military Affairs Commission; and                                                                
relating to the duties and powers of the Alaska Military Affairs                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
BILL: HB 144                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ESTABLISH AK MILITARY AFFAIRS COMMISSION                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HOPKINS                                                                                           
03/20/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/20/21       (H)       MLV, FIN                                                                                               
04/13/21       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE GRIER HOPKINS                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 144.                                                                      
NOLAN KLOUDA, Director                                                                                                          
Center for Economic Development                                                                                                 
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided  information and answered questions                                                             
on HB 144.                                                                                                                      
BRYCE WARD, Mayor                                                                                                               
Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided  information and answered questions                                                             
on HB 144.                                                                                                                      
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
1:03:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CHRIS TUCK  called the House Special  Committee on Military                                                             
and   Veterans'   Affairs  meeting   to   order   at  1:03   p.m.                                                               
Representatives  Shaw, Rauscher,  Claman, Nelson,  and Tuck  were                                                               
present at  the call  to order.   Representatives Tarr  and Story                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
        HB 144-ESTABLISH AK MILITARY AFFAIRS COMMISSION                                                                     
1:04:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TUCK  announced that  the only order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  144  "An Act  establishing  the Alaska  Military                                                               
Affairs Commission; and relating to  the duties and powers of the                                                               
Alaska Military Affairs Commission."                                                                                            
1:04:56 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE GRIER HOPKINS, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented HB  144, which  creates  the Alaska  Military                                                               
Affairs  Commission  (AMAC).    He   offered  a  history  on  the                                                               
conception of this  bill, saying that the  inspiration came about                                                               
in the  Fairbanks North Star Borough  (FNSB) in 2010.   The mayor                                                               
created   the  "Tiger   Team,"   a  varied   group  of   civilian                                                               
stakeholders, in order to prepare the  city for the arrival of an                                                               
F-35 squadron,  he said.   He explained  that the city  wanted to                                                               
know how  to put its  best foot forward  and how to  advocate for                                                               
the community to  make sure that the Department  of Defense (DoD)                                                               
knew that  Fairbanks was the  right place to house  the squadron.                                                               
He informed  the committee  members that trying  to get  the F-35                                                               
squadron  into Fairbanks  was  the  largest economic  development                                                               
effort the city had  seen in years.  He shared  that as the Tiger                                                               
Team has  continued to be  in existence, Fairbanks  has continued                                                               
to reap  benefits, for  both the military  community and  for the                                                               
economy, bringing many more military projects to [FNSB].                                                                        
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS stated  that the  goal  of HB  144 is  to                                                               
create a  Tiger Team at  a state-wide level.   He said  that that                                                               
effort would  allow the state to  have a long-term plan  for what                                                               
the state  is going to do  when it comes to  military development                                                               
in the  Arctic and across  the state,  and he advised  the effort                                                               
should  span  administrations  and include  different  levels  of                                                               
government.   He noted that the  Army and the Air  Force recently                                                               
released their  first set of  Arctic strategies.  He  opined that                                                               
this is important  timing for the state because as  the polar ice                                                               
opens  and Russia's  and China's  aggressions continue,  Alaska's                                                               
role  will  only increase  on  the  national  front, due  to  the                                                               
state's strategic location.   He argued that the state  has to be                                                               
ready  for these  developments, so  the  DoD decides  it is  best                                                               
housed  in Alaska,  rather than  other  states.   He said  Alaska                                                               
needs to advocate  for itself and offer what  communities can put                                                               
forward  at  a  local  level, [such  as]  chambers  of  commerce,                                                               
hospitals, and public safety for new deployments.                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  stated that  HB 144 would  bring impacted                                                               
and proactive  parts of  Alaska together  to create  a commission                                                               
for long-term  planning, so community  and business  voices could                                                               
be heard.   He argued that  Alaska's economic future can  only be                                                               
strengthened  by  these developments  coming  to  Alaska, as  the                                                               
state  continues to  play its  role in  national security  in the                                                               
Pacific  area.   With the  new Arctic  strategies, he  reiterated                                                               
that the  bill is perfectly  timed.   He then offered  a timeline                                                               
for the bill's presentation and testimony in the committee.                                                                     
1:10:07 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS led  the  committee  members through  the                                                               
bill packet, beginning  with the sponsor statement.   He informed                                                               
the  committee   that  many  states   across  the   country  have                                                               
established military  affairs commissions.   He said  he believed                                                               
23 states  had them, many of  which had been created  in the last                                                               
five years.   He shared that there is  opportunity for [military]                                                               
growth in  Alaska.  He  pointed out  a number of  economic impact                                                               
points  in the  second paragraph  of his  sponsor statement.   He                                                               
stated that  HB 144 creates  the commission  and also gives  it a                                                               
number  of new  powers, such  as  how [Alaska]  prepares for  new                                                               
bases  and  infrastructure  needs.   The  commission  would  also                                                               
recommend  methods  to  improve  private  and  public  employment                                                               
opportunities, he stated.   He explained that  Alaska is renowned                                                               
for its  support of  the military -  welcoming them,  being ready                                                               
for them,  and having  services that  bring military  service and                                                               
their family  members into the  community, as opposed to  just on                                                               
the base, which is outside of  the community.  He stated that the                                                               
commission  would  work to  advocate  for  the state  in  matters                                                               
relating   to  military   expansion  and   decision  making,   by                                                               
emphasizing the  state's strategic location,  infrastructure, and                                                               
community support.                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  walked the committee members  through the                                                               
bill.   He explained  that Section 1  would establish  the Alaska                                                               
Military Affairs  Commission in  the Office  of the  Governor and                                                               
then  gave  committee members  an  overview  of the  commission's                                                               
membership  structure.   He said  the  lieutenant governor  would                                                               
chair the commission,  the adjutant general of  the Department of                                                               
Military and  Veterans' Affairs (DMVA) or  the adjutant general's                                                               
designee  and the  commissioner  of the  Department of  Commerce,                                                               
Community,    and   Economic    Development   (DCCED)    or   the                                                               
commissioner's designee would also  have seats.  Additionally, he                                                               
said  three members  would  be mayors,  or  their designees,  who                                                               
would be  nominated by municipal  organizations and  appointed by                                                               
the governor.                                                                                                                   
1:14:34 PM                                                                                                                    
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
1:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS continued,  sharing that  there would  be                                                               
six  non-voting  members  that would  include  the  congressional                                                               
delegation,  to ensure  coordination with  the federal  level [of                                                               
government].  He  highlighted the seventh duty  of the commission                                                               
in the  bill, to  "prepare and  maintain a  strategic plan."   He                                                               
explained that  that would  be a living  document which  would be                                                               
housed  within  the  governor's  office  and  would  continue  to                                                               
develop through different administrations.                                                                                      
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  moved  on  to Section  2  of  the  bill,                                                               
explaining that the commission would  be housed within the boards                                                               
and  commissions, with  a  sunset  date of  June  30,  2029.   He                                                               
presented  the  fiscal  note,  which  came  from  the  governor's                                                               
office.   He said the  fiscal note  includes costs of  travel and                                                               
added that  two of  the four  meetings would be  in person.   The                                                               
other fiscal note  would be a full-time special  assistant to the                                                               
commission,  which   was  proposed  by  the   governor's  office.                                                               
Representative  Hopkins said  he  hoped [the  position] would  be                                                               
paired  down in  committee  so  not as  to  increase the  [state]                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS discussed the  economic impact of military                                                               
spending  in Alaska,  directing attention  to a  research summary                                                               
entitled "AK  Defense Spending."  He  mentioned defense contracts                                                               
for construction, administrative services  for running the bases,                                                               
and the personnel and number of  jobs.  He pointed out two charts                                                               
on  the next  page,  showing the  monetary  impacts on  different                                                               
regions of  the state, and  said nearly every region  is impacted                                                               
by military spending.                                                                                                           
1:18:10 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  presented   a  comparison  on  different                                                               
military  affairs  commissions.    He   used  this  to  show  the                                                               
potential improvements  from the  existing structures  in Alaska.                                                               
He stated that  the first column has what is  proposed in HB 144,                                                               
and the  next column is  the Alaska Civilian Armed  Services Team                                                               
(ACAST) from Administrative  Order No. 291 from 2017.   He argued                                                               
that  ACAST  doesn't  have  quite   the  community  and  economic                                                               
development outlook that  the AMAC would be providing.   The last                                                               
column is the Joint Armed  Services Committee, which would not be                                                               
impacted by this  legislation.  He acknowledged that  a number of                                                               
other legislators have put a lot  of work into JASC and clarified                                                               
that he does not want to remove  it from statute.  He said it has                                                               
its own mission,  which is outside of what AMAC  would be looking                                                               
1:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  pointed to  the  existence  of [the  Alaska                                                               
Veterans Advisory  Council (AVAC)]  and asked  why the  duties in                                                               
question could not be addressed by AVAC.                                                                                        
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  asked if [Representative  Shaw's question                                                               
pertained  to] AMAC  or  ACAST, because  ACAST  is housed  within                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  clarified  that  he  was  saying  there  is                                                               
already a  council that  exists with 12  members that  deals with                                                               
military and veterans affairs under DMVA.   He was looking at the                                                               
reasoning why Alaska needed a  new commission and could not blend                                                               
the  structure  of  HB  144 with  the  existing  commission  that                                                               
already [deals with] military affairs around the state.                                                                         
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  answered that the  point of HB 144  is to                                                               
give municipalities  and business  communities a strong  voice as                                                               
stakeholders in  the economic development  and to make  sure [the                                                               
council]  is proactively  advocating for  Alaska and  bringing in                                                               
expanded  missions  and the  infrastructure  that  is needed.  He                                                               
shared  that [AMAC  would be]  looking at  it from  a drastically                                                               
different perspective from  that which ACAST and  the Joint Armed                                                               
Services Committee have put forward.                                                                                            
1:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER asked  if  this had  been  run past  the                                                               
governor, if it  was at the request of the  governor, and whether                                                               
the governor supported [HB 144].                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS answered that the  bill draft was run past                                                               
the Office of the Governor to  make sure that his office had some                                                               
input.   He shared  that the first  draft of the  bill had  a 22-                                                               
member committee,  and his office  worked with the Office  of the                                                               
Governor to pair  it down to the people who  are currently listed                                                               
in the  commission.  He  remarked that  while he can't  speak for                                                               
the Office  of the Governor, the  current draft [of the  bill] is                                                               
what resulted from working with that office.                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER asked  if the  DMVA had  been contacted,                                                               
and whether HB 144 had been run by them for approval.                                                                           
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  replied that  his office worked  with the                                                               
Office  of the  Governor  for  the draft  of  the  bill, and  the                                                               
current draft of  the bill clarifies membership  and direction of                                                               
the commission.   He said,  "We have not received  any opposition                                                               
from them at all."                                                                                                              
1:22:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TUCK  pointed out that the  fiscal note is from  the Office                                                               
of the Governor, with allocation  to the Office of the Lieutenant                                                               
Governor;  therefore,  he  offered his  understanding  that  "the                                                               
staff  and travel"  would be  from the  Office of  the Lieutenant                                                               
Governor, not from DMVA.                                                                                                        
1:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  observed that  ACAST and AMAC  had similar                                                               
powers  and duties.   He  asked if  it would  be easier  to amend                                                               
ACAST rather than  create a new commission,  or if Representative                                                               
Hopkins did not see ACAST working in this scope.                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HOPKINS  acknowledged   that  there   were  some                                                               
crossovers  but  argued that  one  of  the important  ways  other                                                               
states  had used  this  [type  of committee  was  the] long  term                                                               
planning structure.   He  further stated that  ACAST was  just an                                                               
administrative order; however, he  acknowledged that since it was                                                               
created four years ago, it has a  decent history.  He said one of                                                               
the  main  points  of  AMAC  would  be  long-term  planning  over                                                               
multiple  administrations and  making sure  that the  communities                                                               
and  municipalities have  a  stronger voice.    [It is  important                                                               
that]  the   legislature  has  the  ability   to  establish  this                                                               
commission,  not   through  an  administrative  order   that  the                                                               
legislature doesn't have the ability to amend, he stated.                                                                       
REPRESENTATIVE   HOPKINS   continued   his   response   directing                                                               
attention to the  strategic plan mentioned under  number seven in                                                               
the  "Powers   and  Duties"  section   [on  page  three   of  the                                                               
Comparisons of  Provisions chart]  of the AMAC  [column], arguing                                                               
that it would  be a living document rather than  an annual report                                                               
to the  legislature.  He  said the  document could be  amended at                                                               
various  times.    He  said  the  way  that  AMAC  would  provide                                                               
recommendations for action  would go far beyond  what ACAST does.                                                               
This would give recommendations  to the congressional delegation,                                                               
the governor, the legislature, and  to communities, he explained,                                                               
a power that ACAST currently does not have.                                                                                     
1:24:58 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON  followed   up  asking  if  Representative                                                               
Hopkins did not see ACAST  and the Joint Armed Services Committee                                                               
accomplishing the goals that he assigned to AMAC.                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE   HOPKINS    told   Representative    Nelson   his                                                               
understanding  was correct.    He said  he  believed that  Alaska                                                               
needs a  long-term, multi-level economic  look at the  impacts of                                                               
new  bases and  structures and  the  Army's and  the Air  Force's                                                               
strategic decisions.   He  stated that  the Joint  Armed Services                                                               
Committee  is based  on ensuring  that [the  legislature] doesn't                                                               
run into  issues with base  realignment and closures  (BRACs) and                                                               
is  less community  driven  and more  legislative  driven, as  10                                                               
members are from the legislature themselves.                                                                                    
1:26:05 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR offered  her experience  as the  Joint Armed                                                               
Services  Committee co-chair,  sharing  that she  was engaged  in                                                               
early conversations with  Mr. Klouda and Senator  Revak about the                                                               
idea [in  HB 144] that the  military is a sector  of the [Alaska]                                                               
economy.  She  suggested that when thinking about  mining and oil                                                               
and gas, military  should be considered in terms  of the economic                                                               
impact, because it is not just  the federal dollars that come in;                                                               
there is also  a compounding effect in the [Alaska]  economy.  In                                                               
terms  of  the conversation  about  what  differentiates it  from                                                               
other existing  organizations, that  was her  big takeaway.   She                                                               
stated that  bringing the business  sector into [AMAC]  seemed to                                                               
be the real advantage of this kind of framework.                                                                                
1:27:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TUCK noted  that a lot has been done  in the legislature to                                                               
accommodate  the  military  over  the  years.    He  recalled  an                                                               
economic development  partnership in the Fairbanks  area, as well                                                               
as  [construction  of] malls  to  support  the areas  around  the                                                               
base[s].   He  also  believed the  legislature accomplished  some                                                               
work  regarding gun  ranges over  massive acreages  of land  [for                                                               
military   benefit].     He   recalled  Representative   Hopkins'                                                               
acknowledgement of Alaska as a  strategic location and questioned                                                               
how  much competition  [the  state]  had with  other  bases.   He                                                               
remarked  that   there  has  been  resounding   support  for  the                                                               
military,  and  [HB  114]  would  be a  way  of  furthering  that                                                               
1:28:16 PM                                                                                                                    
NOLAN KLOUDA,  Director, Center  for Economic  Development (CED),                                                               
University   of  Alaska,   provided   information  and   answered                                                               
questions on  HB 144.  He  gave a PowerPoint presentation  to the                                                               
committee members, entitled "Economic  Impacts of the Military in                                                               
Alaska"  [hard  copy  included  in the  committee  packet].    He                                                               
explained  that he  would overview  military economic  impact and                                                               
share some of  the background and recommendations  from a project                                                               
of CED's that helped produce the  current concept and some of the                                                               
thinking behind HB 144 and AMAC.                                                                                                
MR. KLOUDA moved to slide 2  in his presentation and informed the                                                               
committee  that CED  has been  working  on an  effort called  the                                                               
Alaska  Defense Industry  Resilience Initiative  since 2019.   He                                                               
explained  that  the  initiative's   major  goal  was  trying  to                                                               
identify many of  the challenges that go on with  the military in                                                               
Alaska, especially  with regard  to vendors and  contractors that                                                               
are  in  the defense  space,  but  also to  understand  community                                                               
sensitivities  to changes  in defense  activity, including  those                                                               
economic impacts.   He stated that  CED wanted to figure  out how                                                               
to help defense-related vendors  and contractors, and also wanted                                                               
to do some  work to lay the groundwork for  a state-wide strategy                                                               
or approach on the military in Alaska.                                                                                          
1:30:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA  presented  slide  3  and  discussed  the  impact  of                                                               
statehood on military  in Alaska, which he argued was  one of the                                                               
major impacts.  He expounded on  that, sharing that in the 1950s,                                                               
the  impetus  behind  statehood  was the  fact  that  Alaska  was                                                               
important in the Cold War as  a major part of the bulwark against                                                               
the Soviet Union.   At one point in the 1950s  almost half of the                                                               
state's  population  was  tied to  the  military,  between  being                                                               
active-duty    service   members,    civilian   DoD    employees,                                                               
contractors, or  the dependent family  members, he said.   Before                                                               
the discovery of  oil in Prudhoe Bay, he  continued, the military                                                               
played  the role  in  Alaska  that oil  plays  now,  as the  main                                                               
backbone and driver of the state economy.                                                                                       
MR. KLOUDA  moved along  to slide  4.  He  stated that  legacy is                                                               
still seen  today in much  of the state's infrastructure  and big                                                               
projects.   Many were built with  a military need behind  them or                                                               
upgraded or  improved with a military  justification behind them,                                                               
he shared.  He offered a  number of examples, citing the ports of                                                               
Seward,  Valdez,  and  Whittier,   the  Alcan  Highway,  research                                                               
institutes from  the University of  Alaska (UA),  airports around                                                               
the state, telecommunications systems, and  more.  He argued that                                                               
the  economic foundation  laid by  the military  made Alaska  the                                                               
place that it is  today, both as a state and as  part of the rest                                                               
of the United States.                                                                                                           
1:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLOUDA  presented slides 5  through 8.  He  fast-forwarded to                                                               
the present  day and stated  that the state's  leading industries                                                               
do  a good  job of  telling their  stories economically  with how                                                               
many  jobs each  creates.   He stated  that these  are all  major                                                               
sources of  employment in  Alaska.   He referred  to slide  6 and                                                               
stated that oil and gas supplies  over 77,600 jobs, and even more                                                               
if  one  considers the  impact  on  state  government.   He  also                                                               
credited mining, seafood, and tourism as big job creators.                                                                      
MR.  KLOUDA argued  that  there  is often  a  missing piece  that                                                               
causes individuals  to overlook  the military, noting  that there                                                               
is not  an organized  body that is  advocating for  the military,                                                               
telling the military's  story, and being a  source of information                                                               
for what is going on with it.                                                                                                   
MR. KLOUDA moved onto slide 7 and  said part of CED's work was to                                                               
take a look  at what CED knew about military  spending in Alaska,                                                               
which is  largely contracts  and payroll, and  run it  through an                                                               
economic model to  see how many jobs that creates  in Alaska.  He                                                               
then  shared  the model's  results  tallying  about 58,000  total                                                               
jobs, as  shown on slide 7.   Most of the  employment numbers CED                                                               
talks about are civilian jobs, so when taking out the active-                                                                   
duty  jobs, Mr.  Klouda found  there were  about 33,000  civilian                                                               
jobs created by the military.  That  is 1 in 10 civilian jobs, he                                                               
observed,  leaving out  the active-duty  service members  who are                                                               
also employed and  contributing to the economy,  which would make                                                               
the number 1 in  6 total jobs.  He argued  that no industry makes                                                               
this impact other than oil and  gas.  He noted that fisheries may                                                               
have more jobs total, but many  of those are seasonal and several                                                               
of  them  are   [filled  by]  non-resident[s].     He  said  that                                                               
[military] jobs pay more [than other sectors] in Alaska.                                                                        
MR.  KLOUDA argued  that  this is  a major  job  creator for  the                                                               
state.  He  then referenced the economist  Mouhcine Guettabi from                                                               
the Institute  of Social and Economic  Research (ISER) University                                                               
of Alaska Anchorage (UAA).  He  said CED worked with Dr. Guettabi                                                               
on part  of its work,  and he used  a different method  to factor                                                               
job  creation  from the  military,  and  that by  Dr.  Geuttabi's                                                               
estimates  the  numbers  should  be  much  higher.    That  means                                                               
military may be creating upwards of 70,000 jobs in the state.                                                                   
1:34:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLOUDA  turned to slide  9 in the presentation,  which showed                                                               
how  the jobs  break  down.   The  first  column  was direct  DoD                                                               
payroll, showing 29,706  jobs.  He explained that  that is active                                                               
duty,  civilian  DoD employees,  and  United  States Coast  Guard                                                               
(USCG)  employees, as  well as  members of  the reserves  and the                                                               
National Guard.   The next  bar on  the graph was  for contractor                                                               
employment, which he said represented  the first tier of contract                                                               
spending at  a conservative  number of over  10,000 [jobs].   The                                                               
next  bar   on  the  graph  represented   second  and  third-tier                                                               
spending, which  he explained was when  contracted businesses and                                                               
employees  spend money  in the  economy which  creates additional                                                               
jobs.  He  said [when added together] this gave  the total number                                                               
of jobs of about 58,000 total.                                                                                                  
MR. KLOUDA  turned to slides  10 and 11  and said another  way to                                                               
look at  this is  regionally.   He said that  in the  Interior of                                                               
Alaska, the  job impacts  are especially  important.   About one-                                                               
third  of all  civilian jobs  are in  the Interior,  specifically                                                               
FNSB,  Denali Borough,  and the  Southeast Fairbanks  census area                                                               
because  those areas  include the  Fort Greely,  Clear Air  Force                                                               
Station,  Eielson  Air Force  Base,  and  Fort Wainwright.    The                                                               
number is even higher when  counting active-duty service members.                                                               
These numbers  illustrate that  this region  of the  state's main                                                               
economic anchor is the military, he stated.                                                                                     
MR. KLOUDA said  military jobs are not isolated  to the Interior.                                                               
About 1 in  10 [civilian jobs are military  related in] Anchorage                                                               
and  Matanuska-Susitna ("Mat-Su")  together.   He explained  that                                                               
the two functioned  as a combined economic unit,  and even though                                                               
the  bases are  within the  municipal boundaries  [of Anchorage],                                                               
many  personnel, contractors,  and  employees are  in the  Mat-Su                                                               
Valley.  He  reiterated that within the region,  about 10 percent                                                               
of civilian jobs,  30,000 total jobs in the  Anchorage and Mat-Su                                                               
area [are military related].                                                                                                    
MR. KLOUDA  stated that in other  parts of the state,  because of                                                               
the size of  the population it is  a little bit harder  to do the                                                               
modeling for  the employment impact.   In Southeast  Alaska there                                                               
is a huge  presence from the Coast Guard and  from other branches                                                               
of service as well, he shared.   In Kodiak, Southwest Alaska, and                                                               
the  Aleutians  there are  also  fairly  large impacts  from  the                                                               
military.  In some of [CED's] work  it was found that in the last                                                               
three years  there was  only one  borough or  census area  in the                                                               
state that  there was not  any military spending that  took place                                                               
there.  He concluded that it  is something that effects all parts                                                               
of the state to one degree or another.                                                                                          
1:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA   continued  onto  slide  12,   which  presented  the                                                               
consulting team's suggestions.  He  explained that in addition to                                                               
the economic impact  piece, one of the aspects of  CED's work was                                                               
overseeing  a  contract  through  a request  for  proposal  (RFP)                                                               
process  with a  consultant  agency called  TIP  Strategies.   He                                                               
shared that  TIP was hired to  look at models around  the country                                                               
for what states  can do to enhance and  strengthen their military                                                               
presence, especially relating to  economic impacts to help create                                                               
a stronger  economy and economic ties  to the military.   He said                                                               
that  TIP  Strategies  focused  its  recommendations  around  two                                                               
pieces.   One was  the establishment of  a military  coalition or                                                               
alliance through  state legislation  specifically, and  AMAC fits                                                               
these recommendations  closely.   The other  was to  establish an                                                               
office  of military  affairs within  the state  government, which                                                               
would  be more  of an  executive office.   He  said he  would not                                                               
speak  to the  second  recommendation, but  it  is a  potentially                                                               
valuable complementary piece.                                                                                                   
1:38:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLOUDA dug  into the coalition concept that  helped to inform                                                               
the current  legislation over the  next few unnumbered  slides of                                                               
his presentation.   He shared that the  consultants recommended a                                                               
few points  about what the  body should  look like, the  first of                                                               
which  is  that  members  should be  identified  in  statute  and                                                               
appointed  by the  governor.   He  stated this  is important  [to                                                               
ensure]  continuity between  administrations, since  ACAST exists                                                               
as an administrative order and under varied administrations.                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA  stated  that representing  military  communities  is                                                               
important.   He  also  mentioned  private sector  representation,                                                               
because  of  the  large  contracting  base  and  other  kinds  of                                                               
business impacts.   He  advised that  the commission  should meet                                                               
regularly to discuss  and act on key issues  and build continuity                                                               
between administrations.                                                                                                        
1:39:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA  presented  the  next slide  about  the  mission  and                                                               
activities,   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
     .notdef Advocating to Congress and DoD  in  support  of                                                                    
     Alaskas  military installations,  missions, and defense                                                                    
     .notdef Advising the Governor and the Legislature on defense                                                               
     and military issues in the state                                                                                           
     .notdef Developing strategies to protect   the  state's                                                                    
     existing  military missions  and positioning  Alaska to                                                                    
     compete  for new  and  expanded  military missions  and                                                                    
     defense industries                                                                                                         
     .notdef Identifying public infrastructure   needs   and                                                                    
     recommending state community  grant assistance programs                                                                    
     to  support the  retention  and  expansion of  military                                                                    
     installations, missions, and defense sector                                                                                
MR.  KLOUDA expanded  on the  contents of  the slide,  explaining                                                               
that in  some cases the  military is considering  basing missions                                                               
and personnel in many different  places, and there is competition                                                               
between places to  host a new mission or a  new expanded military                                                               
presence.  He  argued that if a state isn't  competing, that puts                                                               
the state at  a disadvantage, because advocacy is  important.  In                                                               
addressing the advisory  role, he stated that  ACAST is generally                                                               
focused on making recommendations to  the commissioner of DMVA to                                                               
the adjutant  general and the  governor, but not  necessarily the                                                               
1:40:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA  presented  the  last slide  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
     .notdef Reviewing state policies to   support  military                                                                    
     installations and  maximize economic benefits  to local                                                                    
     communities  (e.g.,  land  use,  transportation,  noise                                                                    
     .notdef Making policy recommendations to improve the quality                                                               
     of  life for  Uniformed  Servicemembers, Veterans,  and                                                                    
     their families  (e.g., housing,  professional licensing                                                                    
     reciprocity, education, workforce training); and                                                                           
     .notdef Expanding connections and collaboration between the                                                                
     states      businesses,      universities,     business                                                                    
     organizations, and installations.                                                                                          
MR. KLOUDA  elaborated that about  one third of  military spouses                                                               
need a  state level  license or certification  [to work  in their                                                               
field].  He  explained that many states don't  have a streamlined                                                               
way  to get  those  people relicensed,  which  factors into  [the                                                               
military's] decision  making.   He argued there  isn't a  body in                                                               
[Alaska's]   state  government   that  works   on  collaboration,                                                               
especially in regard to commercial aspects of the military.                                                                     
MR. KLOUDA  responded to  earlier comments  in the  meeting about                                                               
ACAST.  He  added that he gave a similar  presentation to ACAST a                                                               
few months ago,  and ACAST co-chairs General  Randy "Church" Kee,                                                               
who is retired and works for  the university, and Bill Popp, from                                                               
the   Anchorage  Economic   Development  Corporation,   are  both                                                               
supportive of  the idea of a  more expansive type of  a body that                                                               
can  do a  bit  more  to advance  economic  development with  the                                                               
military.  He then recommended  those two individuals as a source                                                               
of information for the committee.                                                                                               
1:42:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLOUDA said  those are the main two points  that he wanted to                                                               
mention, and  he is happy to  take questions.  He  also mentioned                                                               
that he believed the committee  members had been paying attention                                                               
to DoD's  strategy in regard  to the Arctic.   He noted  the Army                                                               
and Air  Force each have an  arctic strategy.  Both  branches say                                                               
they  recognize that  the  Arctic  is a  domain  for great  power                                                               
competition  between the  United States,  Russia, and  China, and                                                               
that dynamic  justifies a stronger  military presence  in Alaska,                                                               
he  stated.     It  behooves  Alaska,  he   suggested,  to  think                                                               
proactively  about what  that means  for  the state,  and how  to                                                               
derive the most value from it.                                                                                                  
1:43:55 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER said that he  noticed a lot of redundancy                                                               
with all of the programs.                                                                                                       
CHAIR TUCK  suggested Representative  Rauscher's was  asking what                                                               
would make AMAC unique.                                                                                                         
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   named   the  Joint   Armed   Services                                                               
Committee, ACAST,  DoD, and  DMVA, and he  remarked that  a large                                                               
percentage  of  what this  program  is  trying to  accomplish  is                                                               
already  [addressed by  the other  organizations]; therefore,  he                                                               
does not see the actual need for the proposed commission.                                                                       
1:46:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KLOUDA  stated that  on  paper,  there  is the  Joint  Armed                                                               
Services Committee, which performs  an important function, but it                                                               
generally meets once  per year and has a  mission specifically of                                                               
preventing BRAC,  rather than  a broad  mission of  perusing more                                                               
proactive  opportunities.   So,  he  continued,  the Joint  Armed                                                               
Services Committee is  good and serves a purpose,  but it doesn't                                                               
fulfill "this"  purpose.   He said that  the adjutant  general of                                                               
DMVA has  said economic  development aspects  of the  military is                                                               
something that  DMVA is not  equipped to do.   He stated  that in                                                               
the course of  [preparing this plan], members of  DMVA, JASC, and                                                               
the ACAST  group were  consulted, so  the recommendation  to form                                                               
[AMAC] was  to provide a missing  piece.  He said  that on paper,                                                               
there are many groups, but in  reality, there is a vacuum when in                                                               
it comes  to the  state having  one body that  is the  main focal                                                               
point  for military  and  commercial aspects  that  flow from  an                                                               
economic development aspect.                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  asked for specific examples  of failures                                                               
in  the past  that the  proposed commission  would prevent  going                                                               
forward.   He  clarified that  he  was not  speaking against  the                                                               
proposed commission.                                                                                                            
1:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  shared that  she served  on the  Joint Armed                                                               
Services Committee, both  as member and co-chair,  and she echoed                                                               
the  previous speaker's  comment  that with  only  one meeting  a                                                               
year,  the  Joint Armed  Services  Committee  is limited  in  its                                                               
activities.  She  pointed out that when the  Alaska Defense Forum                                                               
took place,  the Joint  Armed Services Committee  was one  of the                                                               
co-sponsors  of it  and organized  a  round table,  which in  her                                                               
experience  was  the  only  time the  joint  committee  has  done                                                               
something outside of  [its annual meeting].  She  stated that the                                                               
Joint Armed  Services Committee  does not  have the  resources or                                                               
the membership to do what is being proposed for the commission.                                                                 
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  shared that  in an  annual report,  [she and                                                               
her co-chair] had  recommended that the statute  that enacted the                                                               
Joint Armed  Services Committee be reviewed,  because many things                                                               
have changed  overtime.  She  said maybe  right now is  the right                                                               
time to  rethink all the  pieces and  how they fit  together, but                                                               
the Joint Armed Services Committee,  in her experience, has never                                                               
taken  on  discussion  about  any   of  the  economic  pieces  or                                                               
supporting the military sector in Alaska.                                                                                       
1:52:00 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  responded to  Representative  Rauscher's                                                               
question.   He  acknowledged  that [the  different entities]  can                                                               
look  similar.   When  it comes  to  the goal  and  drive of  the                                                               
membership,  [being] proactive  [about  the] economic  well-being                                                               
and growth of the state [is]  the main driver for the creation of                                                               
the AMAC  under HB 144 and  is an entirely different  mission and                                                               
goal when  compared to the  Joint Armed Services  Committee, with                                                               
its  legislative  and  military  membership.    Being  proactive,                                                               
trying  to find  ways  to make  sure Alaska's  best  foot is  put                                                               
forward,  and being  ready to  support the  families of  military                                                               
members and veterans would be something unique to AMAC.                                                                         
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  asked Representative  Tarr if  there was                                                               
any  way [the  legislature]  could expand  the  directive of  the                                                               
Joint Armed Services Committee, and  the number of times it could                                                               
meet, so it could take on [more].                                                                                               
1:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  commented  that Representative  Shaw  could                                                               
also speak to  the question, since he is also  on the Joint Armed                                                               
Services Committee.  She replied  that the big difference she saw                                                               
is the  joint committee  has $10,000 to  stretch over  two years.                                                               
She  explained that  a little  was used  to be  a sponsor  of the                                                               
Alaska Defense  Forum recently, but  primarily that budget  is so                                                               
that when  the Joint  Armed Services  Committee holds  its annual                                                               
meeting,  the members  from outside  of  Juneau can  attend.   It                                                               
typically covers  [the members']  flight, hotel,  and food.   She                                                               
said in  order to take on  the tasks of the  proposed commission,                                                               
the Joint Armed  Services Committee would need  a full-time staff                                                               
person,  statutes  would  have  to  be  amended,  and  the  joint                                                               
committee would have  to consider how to  [provide] the resources                                                               
to operate.                                                                                                                     
1:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TUCK  shared that  he also served  on Joint  Armed Services                                                               
Committee during  the Alaska  Defense Forum.   He  commented that                                                               
Jeff  Steppe was  working with  the mayor  [of Fairbanks]  at the                                                               
time,  and  he continued  on  to  help  put [the  defense  forum]                                                               
together and now serves as staff at the legislature.                                                                            
1:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  made comments  relative to the  direction HB
144 was going.   He recounted that early on  he felt his question                                                               
was  very well  answered by  Representative Hopkins,  because the                                                               
key part  to this bill  that the Joint Armed  Services Committee,                                                               
ACAST,  and [AVAC]  does not  carry  is the  social and  economic                                                               
landscape.  He  said the Alaska Defense Forum  deals with defense                                                               
statewide,  and  ACAST is  primarily  a  civilian armed  services                                                               
team.  He shared that he  thought the importance and value of [HB
144]  is relative  to the  social and  economic landscape  of the                                                               
state,  and  the  strength  that  this  bill  gives  to  bringing                                                               
together  the different  defense  sectors of  the  state and  the                                                               
civilian community  [together].  Representative Shaw  pointed out                                                               
that a  report had been  done by CED,  which doesn't even  have a                                                               
direct military  connection.  But,  he argued, that is  the focus                                                               
and  value  of  HB  144.    Having  worked  across  the  military                                                               
community for  20 years,  Representative Shaw  said he  could see                                                               
how  something like  this would  be such  a huge  benefit because                                                               
Alaska has  so many  DoD dollars  coming into  the state,  and so                                                               
much  potential  for  growth  in   the  state  within  DMVA,  the                                                               
Department of  Homeland Security, and  the State Department.   He                                                               
said now that he has the insight  to the bill, he can see why the                                                               
key part of this legislation exists.                                                                                            
1:57:19 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  commented that she thought  the point would                                                               
be  that  collaboration  was  productive  between  these  groups,                                                               
because they each have a unique niche.                                                                                          
1:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
BRYCE  WARD,  Mayor,  Fairbanks   North  Star  Borough,  provided                                                               
information  and answered  questions on  HB  144.   He began  his                                                               
presentation by  stating that the  creation of AMAC is  needed to                                                               
facilitate    better    coordination   between    administration,                                                               
legislature,  and  local  governments   across  the  state.    He                                                               
concurred with many of the comments  Mr. Klouda had made, as well                                                               
as  the   bill  sponsor  Representative  Hopkins,   [who  did]  a                                                               
wonderful job of explaining the benefits of the bill.                                                                           
MAYOR WARD  spoke to the specifics  of how FNSB has  been able to                                                               
utilize something  similar to  this in the  local community.   He                                                               
recalled  Representative Hopkins  having talked  about the  Tiger                                                               
Team, which coordinates efforts  between the local businesses and                                                               
local  leadership between  cities  and the  borough,  as well  as                                                               
connects  with state  leaders and  the congressional  delegation.                                                               
This team  has been  an incredible  tool in  leveraging strategic                                                               
locations in the  Interior and statewide to  benefit the nation's                                                               
defense.   He shared  that many conversations  over the  past few                                                               
years on FNSB's work with  the Association of Defense Communities                                                               
(ADC)  have looked  to military  affairs  commissions across  the                                                               
United States as powerful ways to  be able to drive some of these                                                               
agendas and  policy at  a statewide level  to benefit  the state.                                                               
He listed  a few  ways that a  military affairs  commission would                                                               
benefit the state.   He said it would be  proactive and lean into                                                               
issues before they become something  undesirable by the community                                                               
or state,   and it could lean into some  of those positive-facing                                                               
decisions  and mission  potential  for when  DoD  is looking  for                                                               
potential  communities to  fulfil  its mission  for the  nation's                                                               
MAYOR WARD  offered that  one thing FNSB  noticed with  the local                                                               
Tiger  Team  is  that  the   military  is  really  interested  in                                                               
fulfilling  its   mission  in   communities  that   support  [the                                                               
military].  He  said that Alaska's ability to come  together as a                                                               
state and as strong local  communities to provide support for the                                                               
mission of defense  while supporting the families  of the service                                                               
members as  they come  into the  communities has  been incredibly                                                               
2:01:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR WARD  said one  of the  things FNSB  has also  noticed over                                                               
that last year  or two is that  the DoD is looking  at quality of                                                               
life for  their military members  and the military families.   He                                                               
explained  that DoD  has begun  basing its  decisions on  metrics                                                               
such as education,  reciprocity, and other aspects  of quality of                                                               
life,  such as  what  kinds of  opportunities  are available  for                                                               
family  members when  they are  in  a particular  community.   He                                                               
argued that being  able to look at these issues  from a statewide                                                               
perspective speaks to not only  Alaska's ability to support DoD's                                                               
mission of defending the United  States, but also to its capacity                                                               
to  support  the  military  families that  come  along  with  the                                                               
soldiers  and airmen.    Being able  to  have that  comprehensive                                                               
perspective  is important,  he emphasized,  and he  thinks it  is                                                               
something the state has been missing.                                                                                           
MAYOR WARD  said it's hard to  believe he has served  almost nine                                                               
years in  some capacity as  a mayor, six  years with the  City of                                                               
North Pole  and coming up  on three years  with FNSB.   He shared                                                               
that  he has  worked  with three  different  governors and  three                                                               
different governor's task  forces.  He said he  believes ACAST is                                                               
the current  model that  the state  has.   He recounted  that his                                                               
first experience  with that  was with  the Alaska  Military Force                                                               
Advocacy Team (AMFAST), under Governor  Sean Parnell.   He stated                                                               
that those  committees, when  used to  their full  potential, are                                                               
effective.   He  said AMFAST  was able  to the  move forward  the                                                               
Tanana  River Bridge,  as Representative  Hopkins mentioned,  [as                                                               
well  as moving]  other strategic  projects across  the state  of                                                               
Alaska such  as securing the  F-16 mission [in FNSB]  and working                                                               
on the  F-35 mission with  the newer executive  order commissions                                                               
through the  Office of the  Governor.  One  of the things  he had                                                               
noticed in  his time in  local office,  he shared, was  that with                                                               
every change in  administration there is a huge  loss of momentum                                                               
from those executive  order committees.  He said  this is because                                                               
every  new governor  wants to  put new  people on  and set  a new                                                               
direction.   Many times, if one  looks at the work  that has come                                                               
out of  those committees,  he argued,  after a  year or  two they                                                               
pick back up  the same projects, but  with the loss of  a year or                                                               
two [of progress].                                                                                                              
MAYOR  WARD   said  he  looks   at  a   legislatively  authorized                                                               
commission as  being the key to  establishing consistency between                                                               
state agencies, the legislature, and  local communities.  He said                                                               
he  thinks there  are some  opportunities for  efficiency between                                                               
the  different  agencies,  because   it  will  take  coordination                                                               
between the governor's  office and the legislature  to make those                                                               
things  happen.    He  argued  that  having  a  military  affairs                                                               
commission that  is legislatively  authorized gives  the greatest                                                               
chance for  success in moving  items forward.  His  final comment                                                               
was that the nation's defense  is strongest when [the government]                                                               
supports the  nation's defense  families with  strong communities                                                               
and  strong  strategies.    He  felt that  HB  144  is  the  best                                                               
opportunity the legislature can do  to move things forward and be                                                               
supportive in the future.                                                                                                       
2:05:07 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON asked  Mayor Ward if he had  ever served on                                                               
the ACAST team.                                                                                                                 
MAYOR  WARD  replied  that  he  has not  served  on  any  of  the                                                               
governors' task forces.                                                                                                         
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON asked whether, if  AMAC were to pass, Mayor                                                               
Ward would stand down the Tiger Team.                                                                                           
MAYOR  WARD answered  that he  has  no intent  on disbanding  the                                                               
local  Tiger Team  effort.   Many of  the projects  that FNSB  is                                                               
working on are very specific to  the FNSB community.  However, he                                                               
stated that  he does  look forward to  the ability  to coordinate                                                               
with a statewide  operation on these different  issues being delt                                                               
with, whether locally  or on a statewide level.   He said he sees                                                               
[the Tiger Team] as being supportive of AMAC, not competitive.                                                                  
2:06:43 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW shared  his concern  about the  bill is  the                                                               
cost of  the personnel services.   He said every  commission that                                                               
he has  seen such as  the Joint  Armed Services Committee  or the                                                               
Veterans  Affairs  Council  generally  can  thrive  among  itself                                                               
without  a $124,000  position.   He said  he would  like to  move                                                               
forward  with a  possible amendment  to delete  the position  and                                                               
allow  the commission  to  run its  own program  debt  free.   He                                                               
commented  that everyone  is trying  to  cut the  budget, and  if                                                               
there  is any  chance to  make this  commission viable  and still                                                               
gain the strength within itself, it would make a big difference.                                                                
2:07:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR TUCK  commented that he does  not know how many  boards the                                                               
commissioner of the Department of  Commerce, Community & Economic                                                               
Development must serve  on, but the commission  proposed under HB
144  would  be an  additional  obligation.   [The  House  Special                                                               
Committee on Military and Veterans  Affairs] is trying to make it                                                               
so  the  lieutenant  governor  has   the  ability  to  chair  the                                                               
commission.  He said he agrees  that [the state] is in a fiscally                                                               
tight situation,  and it is  difficult to add personnel,  but [it                                                               
is also  important] to  make sure this  commission succeeds.   He                                                               
stated  that he  was unsure  what the  best balance  was at  this                                                               
CHAIR  TUCK  asked if  the  bill  sponsor  had spoken  with  Kris                                                               
Curtis, Legislative Auditor with  the Legislative Audit Division,                                                               
on the eight-year time frame.   He commented that the legislature                                                               
is trying to balance out when  commissions sunset so there is not                                                               
too much burden  on the division at one time.   He clarified that                                                               
he had  no opposition  to eight  years but wanted  to be  sure it                                                               
would not be better served at six or seven years.                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS replied  that  he was  happy  to work  on                                                               
that.  He said the bill  described eight years, because it is the                                                               
general  cycle when  looking at  audits.   He  also commented  to                                                               
Representatives Nelson and  Shaw that he wanted to  make sure the                                                               
commission has the staff it needs  to be able to function well to                                                               
keep the long-term  plan happening, but at the same  time using a                                                               
full-time employee that  is in place instead  of creating another                                                               
[HB 144 was held over]                                                                                                          
2:10:15 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special Committee  on Military and Veterans'  Affairs meeting was                                                               
adjourned at 2:10 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 144 version A 4.12.2021.PDF HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Sponsor Statement 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Sectional Analysis 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Fiscal Note OOG-AMAC 4.9.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Presentation from Nolan Klouda 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Research 2019 AK Defense Spending 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Research Comparison_AMAC-ACAST-JASC 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Research Economic Impacts of the Military in Alaska 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Research Alaska Defense Coalition Report 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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HB 144 Testimony FNSB 4.12.2021.pdf HMLV 4/13/2021 1:00:00 PM
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SB 4