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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
I. Approval of Minutes
a. May 7, 2025, Meeting Minutes
II. Committee Business
a. Fairbanks LIO Lease Extension Renewal No. 5
b. Mat-Su LIO Lease Extension Renewal No. 4
c. Legislative Legal Services/Office of Victims'
Rights Westlaw Contract Amendment
d. FY2026 Microsoft Enterprise Software Agreement
Renewal No. 2
e. Darktrace Cybersecurity Software Renewal
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                   ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                   
                     LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
                        JUNE 25, 2025                                                                                         
                           1:00 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                            
   Representative Sara Hannan, Chair                                                                                          
   Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                           
   Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                              
   Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                
   Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                              
   Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                               
   Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                      
   Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                  
   Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                      
   Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                             
   Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                  
   Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                   
   Representative Donna Mears (alternate)                                                                                     
   Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                        
   Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                       
   Senator Löki Tobin(alternate)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                      
   NONE                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   AGENDA                                                                                                                     
   APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                         
   APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                        
   COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   SPEAKER REGISTER                                                                                                           
  JC Kestel, Procurement Officer, Legislative Affairs Agency                                                                  
   (LAA)                                                                                                                      
   Shay Wilson, Chief Information Officer, LAA                                                                                
   Angela Garay, Executive Director, Office of Victims Rights                                                                 
   (OVR)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
I. CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:01:27 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR HANNAN  called the Legislative  Council meeting  to order                                                               
at  1:00pm  on June  25,  2025,  in the  Anchorage  Legislative                                                               
Office Building, Denali Room.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:03:00 PM                                                                                                                  
Council  took  a brief  at  ease  due to  teleconference  audio                                                               
difficulties.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:10:17 PM                                                                                                                  
Council returned from the brief at ease.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Present  at  the  call were  Representatives  Carrick,  Edgmon,                                                               
Schrage,  Stutes,   Hannan;  Senators   Giessel,  Gray-Jackson,                                                               
Hoffman, Kiehl, Stevens.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Ten members present.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
II. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
1:11:23 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE CHAIR STEVENS  moved and asked unanimous  consent that the                                                               
Legislative Council approve the agenda as presented.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed without objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
1:11:48 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE  CHAIR STEVENS  moved  and  asked unanimous  consent  that                                                               
Legislative Council  approve the  meeting minutes dated  May 7,                                                               
2025, as presented.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
The minutes were approved without objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
IV. COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                        
a. Fairbanks LIO Lease Extension Renewal No. 5                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:12:17 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE  CHAIR  STEVENS  moved that  Legislative  Council  approve                                                               
Renewal No.  5 of the lease  for the Fairbanks office  space in                                                               
an amount of $219,450.48.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected  for the purpose of  discussion and asked                                                               
Procurement Officer JC Kestel to speak to this item.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
JC KESTEL,  Procurement Officer,  LAA, stated  that there  is a                                                               
memo in  members' packets  about the  Fairbanks lease  renewal,                                                               
which is  the final renewal  before a possible  lease extension                                                               
or new  RFP. If approved,  the lease  would run from  August 1,                                                               
2025, through July 31, 2026.  Because the lease exceeds $50,000                                                               
annually, Legislative Council approval is required.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  asked what the square footage  is of the                                                               
Fairbanks office space and how many legislators use the space.                                                                
                                                                                                                              
MR. KESTEL responded that Fairbanks  has a total square footage                                                               
of  9,049  feet  with eight  legislators  having  office  space                                                               
there.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR   HANNAN  added   that,  in  addition   to  those   eight                                                               
legislators,  six  more offices  are  used  by staff  of  other                                                               
legislators  who do  not represent  Fairbanks, explaining  that                                                               
legislators  can  have  staff   based  in  LIOs  outside  their                                                               
districts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES asked  if she  could have  an office  in                                                               
Sitka if she wanted one.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN   responded  that   the  practice  has   been  to                                                               
accommodate staff  in LIOs  if a legislator  has staff  in that                                                               
location.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR GIESSEL said she has a  staff member based in the Kenai                                                               
LIO  who lives  in Soldotna  even  though she  is an  Anchorage                                                               
legislator.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK commented  that  the  Fairbanks LIO  is                                                               
heavily  used, with all  available space  converted  to offices                                                               
and sees high  foot traffic. She asked whether  alternative LIO                                                               
locations have been identified or discussed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
MR. KESTEL answered that no research  has been done yet because                                                               
they have not  exercised the final renewal. If  this renewal is                                                               
approved, the  Agency plans to  start that process in  the fall                                                               
to  decide whether  a lease extension  is  practical, or  a new                                                               
solicitation  is needed  for possible  expansion or  relocation                                                               
next summer.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN,  noting there were no further  questions, removed                                                               
her objection and asked for a roll call vote.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:18:15 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS:   Representatives  Carrick,   Edgmon,  Schrage,   Stutes,                                                               
Hannan;   Senators  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,  Hoffman,   Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
b. Mat-Su LIO Lease Extension Renewal No. 4                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:19:22 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE  CHAIR  STEVENS  moved that  Legislative  Council  approve                                                               
Renewal No.  4 of the lease  for the Mat-Su office  space in an                                                               
amount of $193,504.44.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected  for the purpose of  discussion and asked                                                               
Procurement Officer JC Kestel to speak to this item.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
JC KESTEL, Procurement Officer, LAA,  stated that the next memo                                                               
in the  packet covers Lease Renewal  No. 4 for the  Mat-Su LIO.                                                               
This  renewal would  be  for  one year,  from  August 1,  2025,                                                               
through  July 31,  2026.  After this,  only  one more  one-year                                                               
renewal  would  remain  before  the Agency  must  issue  a  new                                                               
solicitation.  He   noted  that   the  lease   exceeds  $50,000                                                               
annually, so Legislative Council approval is required.                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN,  seeing no questions  or discussion,  removed her                                                               
objection and asked for a roll call vote.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
1:20:41 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS:   Representatives  Carrick,   Edgmon,  Schrage,   Stutes,                                                               
Hannan;   Senators  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,  Hoffman,   Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
c. Westlaw Contract Amendment                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
1:21:40 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE CHAIR  STEVENS moved  and asked  that Legislative  Council                                                               
adopt  Amendment No.  1  of the  Agency's  contract for  online                                                               
legal  research   services  from   West,  a   Thompson  Reuters                                                               
Business, to  increase the  number of  access accounts  by four                                                               
and increase the  contract amount by $15,826.13, to  a total of                                                               
$242,321.75.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected  for the purpose of  discussion and asked                                                               
JC Kestel to  speak to this item. She further  noted that Emily                                                               
Nauman and Megan Wallace with  Legislative Legal were available                                                               
on  teleconference,  and  Angela  Garay,  with  the  Office  of                                                               
Victims' Rights was available in the room.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
JC KESTEL,  Procurement Officer, LAA,  stated that this  was an                                                               
amendment request.  Unlike most  items where  he asks  to spend                                                               
money, this request  is to save money. The  amendment would add                                                               
the Office  of Victims' Rights  (OVR) to the  Legislative Legal                                                               
Services  contract  with West  to  allow OVR  attorneys  online                                                               
legal research access. He said  the Agency and OVR got separate                                                               
quotes but having OVR on its  own contract was quite expensive.                                                               
Combining   contracts  saves   over  $21,000.  With   committee                                                               
approval, OVR  would be  added to  the existing  Legal Services                                                               
contract.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR KIEHL said  that legislative offices can  have either a                                                               
Westlaw  or  LexisNexis  account  and  asked  if  those  are  a                                                               
separate contract or part of the Legislative Legal contract.                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
MR. KESTEL  responded that  was a  separate contract,  and that                                                               
this particular contract is just for Legislative Legal.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR KIEHL  concluded stating that  he did not wish  to make                                                               
any  additional amendments  to  the  contract currently  before                                                               
Council,   but  hoped   they  might   create  similar   savings                                                               
opportunities in the future.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
MR. KESTEL  stated that he  would make a  note to look  into it                                                               
internally and see what could be done.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN  recognized Ms.  Garay, Executive Director  of the                                                               
Office of Victims' Rights, and asked  if she would like to come                                                               
forward and address the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
ANGELA  GARAY,  Executive  Director, Office  of  Victim  Rights                                                               
(OVR),                                                                                                                        
replied  that she  was available  to answer  any questions  and                                                               
added  that  she  brought  updated  OVR  brochures  for  anyone                                                               
interested.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN  seeing  no   further  questions  or  discussion,                                                               
removed her objection and asked for a roll call vote.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:25:50 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS:   Representatives  Carrick,   Edgmon,  Schrage,   Stutes,                                                               
Hannan;   Senators  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,  Hoffman,   Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
d. FY2026 Microsoft Enterprise Software Agreement  Renewal No.                                                              
   2                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
1:27:18 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE CHAIR STEVENS  moved that Legislative Council  approve the                                                               
expenditure  of   $313,077  for  the  second   of  five  annual                                                               
installments  to   Software  House  International   (SHI)  that                                                               
licenses the Legislature to use Microsoft's software.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected  for the purpose of  discussion and asked                                                               
Chief Information Officer Shay Wilson to speak to this item.                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
SHAY  WILSON,  Chief  Information  Officer,  LAA,  stated  that                                                               
members  have  a memo  in  their  packets about  the  Microsoft                                                               
Enterprise Agreement.  In 2024, Legislative Council  approved a                                                               
five-year   contract  with  Microsoft   that  includes   annual                                                               
renewals, and  this is  the second  renewal. He  explained that                                                               
the  Microsoft   software  licenses  cover  a   wide  range  of                                                               
applications  used  daily,  including  the  computer  operating                                                               
systems; Office  programs like Word and Excel;  email; storage;                                                               
Teams;  SharePoint;  and  all the  server  software  supporting                                                               
BASIS,  file system storage,  and databases  required  to store                                                               
and  track the  bill process.  The contract  was negotiated  in                                                               
conjunction with  the Executive and Judicial  Branches and used                                                               
Software  House International  to get  the lowest pricing.  The                                                               
total cost  for year one  is $313,077,  to be paid  from FY2025                                                               
Division of Technology and Information operating funds.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN,  seeing no questions  or discussion,  removed her                                                               
objection and asked for a roll call vote.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
1:29:45 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS:   Representatives  Carrick,   Edgmon,  Schrage,   Stutes,                                                               
Hannan;   Senators  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,  Hoffman,   Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
e. Darktrace Cybersecurity Software Renewal                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:30:36 PM                                                                                                                  
VICE CHAIR STEVENS  moved that Legislative Council  approve the                                                               
expenditure of  $67,404 to  Software House  International (SHI)                                                               
to license the legislature to continue to use Darktrace.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected  for the purpose of  discussion and asked                                                               
Shay Wilson to speak to this item.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SHAY  WILSON,  Chief  Information  Officer,  LAA,  stated  that                                                               
members  have  a memo  about  the  Darktrace renewal  in  their                                                               
packets.  He said  Darktrace is  one  of several  cybersecurity                                                               
tools the Division of Technology  and Information (DTI) uses to                                                               
help protect  the legislature.  The software learns  the normal                                                               
work  habits  of  each  device  on  the  network  and  monitors                                                               
traffic, alerting the cybersecurity  team if something deviates                                                               
from  usual behavior.  He noted  they have  used Darktrace  for                                                               
three years, but  until now it stayed below  the cost threshold                                                               
requiring Legislative  Council approval. Without  this renewal,                                                               
the team would lose valuable  visibility into network activity.                                                               
The renewal cost is $67,404.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
DISCUSSION  FOLLOWED  between  Senator Kiehl  and  Shay  Wilson                                                               
regarding:  the types  of information  the monitoring  software                                                               
collects and  how it tracks  user interactions on  the network;                                                               
the limits  of the  technology's visibility,  including whether                                                               
it  can  read email  contents,  view  VPN traffic,  or  monitor                                                               
activity  on external  Wi-Fi;  the system's  ability to  detect                                                               
connections from  foreign locations;  and assurances  that data                                                               
collected   by   the   software   remains   secure,   including                                                               
clarification  that the  legislature  uses  the locally  hosted                                                               
version where all data stays under legislative control.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON asked whether  this cybersecurity  system                                                               
acts as  a failsafe against  users clicking on links  in emails                                                               
that could be threats.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
MR.   WILSON   responded   that  while   there   are   multiple                                                               
cybersecurity  tools   in  place   to  help  with   that,  this                                                               
particular  system likely  would  not prevent  it. However,  it                                                               
could  alert his  cybersecurity team  if it  happens. He  added                                                               
that they  also use  Proofpoint to filter  email and  Palo Alto                                                               
systems,  which Legislative  Council  approved,  to block  such                                                               
malicious activity.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  asked  if  the company  does  not  have                                                               
access  to legislative  information,  how  is  DTI notified  if                                                               
there is a problem.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
MR.  WILSON,   explained  that   when  problems   arise,  DTI's                                                               
cybersecurity  team  is  notified  by email  and  text  message                                                               
twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN  noted that the  legislature has used  this system                                                               
for three years and asked if  the Council's IT Subcommittee has                                                               
discussed this issue with the DTI cybersecurity team.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
MR.  WILSON responded  that  DTI  discussed it  internally  and                                                               
procured  the system after  several high-profile  cybersecurity                                                               
incidents elsewhere. DTI  has not yet discussed it  with the IT                                                               
Subcommittee but will make a point to do so.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN followed up to ask  if his team has been satisfied                                                               
with the system's performance over those three years.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
MR. WILSON said his team is  very happy with the visibility and                                                               
notifications it  provides, explaining  that they are  aware of                                                               
much more activity than they would be otherwise.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN,  seeing  no  further  questions  or  discussion,                                                               
removed her objection and asked for a roll call vote.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
1:42:22 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS:   Representatives  Carrick,   Edgmon,  Schrage,   Stutes,                                                               
Hannan;   Senators  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,  Hoffman,   Kiehl,                                                               
Stevens                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
V. ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
There  being no  further  business  before the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Council meeting was adjourned at 1:43pm.                                                                          
1:43:34 PM