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03/18/2022 09:00 AM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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09:06:36 AM Presentation: Economic Impacts of Health Care Costs
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                         March 18, 2022                                                                                         
                           9:05 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Liz Snyder                                                                                                       
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative James Kaufman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF HEALTH CARE COSTS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JON BITTNER, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Alaska Small Business Development Center                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint, titled "Economic                                                                  
Impacts on Alaska's Workforce."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LORI WING-HEIER, Director                                                                                                       
Division of Insurance                                                                                                           
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint, titled "Health Care                                                               
Costs in the Last Frontier."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASMIN SMITH, CEO and Founder                                                                                                   
The Business Boutique                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Discussed  the  economic  impacts of  health                                                             
care costs to small businesses.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY, President and CEO                                                                                             
Mat-Su Health Foundation                                                                                                        
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Provided  a  PowerPoint,  titled  "Mat-Su                                                             
Health Foundation - House Labor & Commerce."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA HEFFERN, Project Coordinator                                                                                             
Alaska Healthcare Transformation Project                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a PowerPoint,  titled "House Labor                                                             
and Commerce Committee Healthcare Costs and Cost Drivers."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  IVY  SPOHNHOLZ  called  the House  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    9:05   a.m.                                                               
Representatives  McCarty,  Fields,   Nelson,  and  Sponholz  were                                                               
present  at  the call  to  order.   Representatives  Schrage  and                                                               
Snyder arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: Economic Impacts of Health Care Costs                                                                            
      PRESENTATION: ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF HEALTH CARE COSTS                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
9:06:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would be  a presentation on  the economic impacts of  health care                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:07:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON   BITTNER,   Executive   Director,  Alaska   Small   Business                                                               
Development  Center, provided  a  presentation, titled  "Economic                                                               
Impacts  on  Alaska's  Workforce"  [hard  copy  included  in  the                                                               
committee packet].  He noted the  rising costs of health care and                                                               
said this is  a significant driver of costs  to small businesses.                                                               
He noted  that, on average,  employers pay $750 per  employee per                                                               
month  for  health care.    Since  the global  economic  downturn                                                               
during  the  COVID-19  pandemic,  he   said  there  has  been  an                                                               
unprecedented rise  in workforce  costs because of  inflation and                                                               
the need for  competitive employee pay and benefits.   He pointed                                                               
out the  cost-of-living index and  that, compared with  300 other                                                               
cities, 5 cities in Alaska have the highest health care costs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORI WING-HEIER,  Director, Division of Insurance,  Department of                                                               
Commerce,  Community,  and   Economic  Development,  delivered  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation,  titled "Health  Care Costs in  the Last                                                               
Frontier"  [hard copy  included in  the committee  packet].   She                                                               
explained that  health care costs  are high in Alaska  because of                                                               
the population  size.   She explained that  there are  not enough                                                               
primary care  providers, and recruitment and  retention costs for                                                               
providers are  high in  Alaska.  She  mentioned that  the state's                                                               
senior  population  is growing  and  pointed  out that  providing                                                               
services to patients  in rural Alaska is expensive.   She pointed                                                               
out that Medicaid and Medicare  have low reimbursement rates, and                                                               
to make  up for  the difference, providers  will "cost  shift" to                                                               
other  plans  or payers.    She  stated  that all  these  factors                                                               
contribute to  the high cost  of health care  in the state.   She                                                               
pointed  out that  between 2010  and 2018,  Alaska's health  care                                                               
costs  rose 38  percent.   As  of 2017,  Alaska  was the  highest                                                               
paying state for  health care practitioners.  As  of 2018, health                                                               
care  was the  state's largest  private sector  employer.   As of                                                               
2021, 39,200 Alaskans were employed in the health care industry.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER stated that the  Affordable Care Act requires that                                                               
individual and small group insurers  spend at least 80 percent of                                                               
premium  dollars on  health care  and quality  improvement.   She                                                               
continued  that,  according  to   FairHealth,  when  compared  to                                                               
national  averages,  the  COVID-19  pandemic  had  a  significant                                                               
impact  on medical  and  hospitalization costs  in  Alaska.   She                                                               
expressed  the opinion  that insurance  premiums are  expected to                                                               
rise next  year.  She stated  that the division is  supportive of                                                               
direct  health  care  agreements,  and  this  would  make  a  big                                                               
difference in the cost of insurance.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:30:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASMIN SMITH,  CEO and Founder,  The Business  Boutique, detailed                                                               
affordability  issues from  a business  standpoint.   She  stated                                                               
that  it  is  very  difficult  for  businesses  to  offer  health                                                               
insurance and provide a livable wage.   Because of the expense of                                                               
health insurance,  she said it  is more difficult  for businesses                                                               
to stay  competitive and appear  compassionate to  its employees.                                                               
She  suggested there  should be  more flexible  opportunities and                                                               
options for  employers to  offer health insurance,  as it  is not                                                               
financially  feasible for  small businesses  to offer  employees'                                                               
health  care.   She  added  that  this  has created  a  long-term                                                               
disparity  for Black,  Indigenous,  and People  of Color  (BIPOC)                                                               
businesses and owners.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:35:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY,  President and  CEO, Mat-Su  Health Foundation,                                                               
gave a PowerPoint presentation  titled, "Mat-Su Health Foundation                                                               
-  Labor  and Commerce"  [hard  copy  included in  the  committee                                                               
packet].   In  reference  to the  Mat-Su  Health Foundation,  she                                                               
stated that an LLC partnership  was formed with an equity partner                                                               
to  bring in  the capital  to build  the Mat-Su  Regional Medical                                                               
Center.  She explained that  the Mat-Su Health Foundation takes a                                                               
share of  the profits  from the medical  center and  invests them                                                               
back into the  community in the form of  grants and scholarships;                                                               
the more the hospital makes,  the more the foundation receives to                                                               
provide  grants  to  the  community;   however,  she  added  that                                                               
lowering costs  is necessary to  create health care reform.   She                                                               
stated  that per-capita  health care  costs are  rising, and  the                                                               
Mat-Su  Health  Foundation  has   rallied  its  support  for  the                                                               
expansion  of  Medicaid.   She  stated  that  Medicaid  expansion                                                               
dollars  would  fill  significant  gaps  in  reimbursements,  but                                                               
prices  continue to  rise for  all payers.   The  Mat-Su Regional                                                               
Medical Center  has reduced waste and  inefficiency and decreased                                                               
the cost  of doing  business; however, the  price of  medicine is                                                               
still going  up.   She expressed the  opinion that  large medical                                                               
institutions  are taking  advantage  of  Alaska's weak  policies.                                                               
Families,  employers,  school   districts,  and  governments  are                                                               
bearing  the brunt  of  the  rising cost  of  health  care.   The                                                               
National  Academy for  State  Health  Policy recommends  limiting                                                               
cost  increases over  time through  a  total cost-for-care  cost-                                                               
growth  benchmark.   This  would help  control  hospital cost  by                                                               
using a  more stringent insurance  rate review,  containing costs                                                               
and  reducing  cost-shifting  through   an  all-payer  or  global                                                               
hospital budget  model, and addressing health  care consolidation                                                               
through action by the attorney general.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:45:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA   HEFFERN,   Project    Coordinator,   Alaska   Healthcare                                                               
Transformation  Project,   offered  a   PowerPoint  presentation,                                                               
titled "House  Labor and Commerce Committee  Healthcare Costs and                                                               
Cost Drivers" [hard copy included  in the committee packet].  She                                                               
described that the Alaska Healthcare  Transformation Project is a                                                               
cross  sector collaboration  of payers,  providers, policymakers,                                                               
and  patient advocates  working  together  to transform  Alaska's                                                               
health care  system.  The  cost of  Alaska's health care  is $7.5                                                               
billion and climbing,  which amounts to an  estimated $12,500 per                                                               
Alaskan.   From 1994-2014  there was a  $6.4 billion  increase in                                                               
health care  spending.  This  amounts to a 371  percent increase.                                                               
According to  a report from  the Robert Wood  Johnson Foundation,                                                               
technological change is the most  important driver of health care                                                               
spending increases over time.  She  pointed out that half of real                                                               
health expenditure  growth is  attributed to  medical technology.                                                               
Discussing the  health care per patient  percentages, she pointed                                                               
out that  the costliest 1  percent of patients account  for about                                                               
20 percent  of all the health  care spending.  People  with three                                                               
or  more chronic  diseases  generally fall  into  this 1  percent                                                               
category.   The top 5 percent  of patients consume 49  percent of                                                               
all health care spending.  The  top 50 percent consume 97 percent                                                               
of health  care spending.   According to  the Center  for Disease                                                               
Control,  the  leading causes  of  death  in Alaska,  outside  of                                                               
"COVID years,"  are heart disease, cancer,  accident, stroke, and                                                               
chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEFFERN noted that Senate  Bill 74 [passed during the Twenty-                                                               
Ninth Alaska  State Legislature]  provided the  legislation which                                                               
allowed  the then  Department of  Health and  Social Services  to                                                               
solicit  coordinated-care demonstration  projects.   She  pointed                                                               
out  that  there  are  projects  which are  ready  but  lack  the                                                               
authority and  financial redesign  from the Department  of Health                                                               
to move forward  and address health care policy  evaluation.  She                                                               
advised  that this  evaluation  should be  based  on current  and                                                               
accurate data analysis,  and this would go  beyond the inevitable                                                               
changes  in future  administrations.   She concluded  that health                                                               
care reform is a long road that requires continuity and focus.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ mentioned  time  constraints  with the  House                                                               
floor  and  the  possibility  of  resuming  the  conversation  of                                                               
economic impacts of health care costs in Alaska at a later date.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:55:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at                                                               
9:55 a.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HL&C Health Care Costs Hearing_ISER_3.18.22.pdf HL&C 3/18/2022 9:00:00 AM
Health Care Costs
HL&C Health Care Costs Hearing_AK Healthcare Transformation Project_3.18.pdf HL&C 3/18/2022 9:00:00 AM
Health Care Costs
HL&C Health Care Costs Hearing_AKSBDC_3.18.22.pdf HL&C 3/18/2022 9:00:00 AM
Health Care Costs
HL&C Health Care Costs Hearing_Mat-Su Health Foundation_3.18.22.pdf HL&C 3/18/2022 9:00:00 AM
Health Care Costs
HL&C Health Care Costs Hearing_Division of Insurance_3.18.22.pdf HL&C 3/18/2022 9:00:00 AM
Health Care Costs