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12/19/2024 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:02:57 PM Start
01:03:40 PM Presentation(s): 2024 Alaska Primary and General Elections
03:10:16 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: 2024 Alaska Primary and General TELECONFERENCED
Elections by Carol Beecher; Director of Alaska
Division of Elections
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                        
                       December 19, 2024                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Andrew Gray                                                                                                      
Representative Cliff Groh (via teleconference)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  2024 ALASKA PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CAROL BEECHER, Director                                                                                                         
Divisions of Elections                                                                                                          
Office of the Lieutenant Governor                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint during the 2024                                                                   
Alaska Primary and General Elections presentation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TOM FLYNN, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                           
Labor and State Affairs Section                                                                                                 
Civil Division (Anchorage)                                                                                                      
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the 2024 Alaska                                                                
Primary and General Elections presentation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  called  the   House  Judiciary  Standing  Committee                                                             
meeting  to   order  at  [1:02]   p.m.     Representatives  Gray,                                                               
Carpenter, Groh  (via teleconference), and Vance  were present at                                                               
the call to order.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  2024 Alaska Primary and General Elections                                                                    
  PRESENTATION(S):  2024 Alaska Primary and General Elections                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:03:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  announced that the  only order of business  would be                                                               
the 2024 Alaska Primary and General Elections presentation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:05:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL BEECHER, Director, Divisions  of Elections (DOE), Office of                                                               
the  Lieutenant  Governor,  directed attention  to  a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation,  entitled "Division  of Elections,"  dated 12/19/24                                                               
[hardcopy  included  in the  committee  packet].   She  began  by                                                               
sharing  general information  about the  division's 35  permanent                                                               
staff  members who  are required  to remain  neutral and  sign an                                                               
oath of  impartiality, voter registration  per AS  15.05.101, and                                                               
citizenship as  it relates  to voter  registration.   Voters must                                                               
certify that  they are a  citizen by  affirming it on  the [voter                                                               
registration  form],   the  Division  of  Motor   Vehicles  (DMV)                                                               
registration  form,   or  the   permanent  fund   dividend  (PFD)                                                               
automatic  voter  registration  (AVR).   The  department  is  not                                                               
responsible    for   further    investigating   an    applicant's                                                               
citizenship.    In  response  to   a  series  of  questions  from                                                               
Representative Gray, she  explained that a person who  moved to a                                                               
new district  within 30 days  before Election Day could  vote the                                                               
full ballot from  their prior district or vote  a question ballot                                                               
from their new district.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:11:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  resumed the  presentation on  slide 5  and addressed                                                               
PFD AVR.   New applicants  and those  with an address  change are                                                               
sent  a  notice letting  them  know  they will  be  automatically                                                               
registered unless they opt out within  30 days.  Filing for a PFD                                                               
is  defined as  "appearing  to vote"  for  purposes of  remaining                                                               
active in  the voter  registration system per  AS 15.07.135.   In                                                               
response to a series of  questions from Representative Carpenter,                                                               
she  indicated that  third parties  do not  audit the  division's                                                               
processes  and  that all  analyses  are  done internally  by  the                                                               
division.   She noted that  the official election  pamphlet (OEP)                                                               
is checked by DOE staff as well.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:17:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:17 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:17:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER  acknowledged the  error  on  the official  election                                                               
pamphlet  (OEP) and  said the  division is  looking into  ways to                                                               
stop that from  happening again.  She  encouraged noncitizens who                                                               
receive voter  cards from the PFD  AVR to notify the  division so                                                               
it can work  with the Permanent Fund Dividend  Division (PFDD) to                                                               
fix its  coding.  However,  based on information received  by the                                                               
division,  noncitizens  are  not  being sent  voter  cards.    In                                                               
response to  questions from Chair  Vance, she confirmed  that the                                                               
division  is  not  statutorily  required  to  perform  additional                                                               
verification of citizenship.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:21:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM FLYNN,  Assistant Attorney General,  Labor and  State Affairs                                                               
Section, Civil Division (Anchorage),  Department of Law (DOL), in                                                               
response to  a series  of questions  from Chair  Vance, confirmed                                                               
that  DOE  is  not  required to  perform  additional  citizenship                                                               
verification and warned against the  limits of the National Voter                                                               
Registration Act.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:22:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER, in  response to a series of  questions from members,                                                               
said ballots were  rejected if the voter indicated  on the ballot                                                               
that they  were not a  citizen; DOE is precluded  from requesting                                                               
additional documentation  for proof  of citizenship;  voter cards                                                               
are sent by mail, as required by statute.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:25:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER continued  the presentation on slide  6 and explained                                                               
that for  the purpose  of determining  residency for  voting, the                                                               
address  of  a  voter  as   it  appears  on  the  official  voter                                                               
registration  record  is  presumptive evidence  of  the  person's                                                               
voting residence.  This presumption  is negated only if the voter                                                               
notifies the director  in writing of a change of  residence.  She                                                               
addressed  the ballots  with the  incorrect judicial  district in                                                               
Judicial Region  4, explaining that  there was an  internal error                                                               
on  the ballot  order form.   She  said the  impacted individuals                                                               
were notified  immediately and  given the  opportunity to  vote a                                                               
new ballot.   In response to a question  from Representative Gray                                                               
regarding  an early  voting mishap  in  Kotzebue, Utqiagvik,  and                                                               
Bethel during the  2024 primary election, she  clarified that the                                                               
issue  was in  relation to  absentee in-person  voting (AVO)  and                                                               
came down to  a misunderstanding about which ballots to  use.  In                                                               
response  to a  series of  questions from  Chair Vance,  she said                                                               
each  year,  the division  hosts  a  debriefing of  the  election                                                               
season to  discuss issues  that occurred and  how to  solve them.                                                               
The  division meets  regularly with  United State  Postal Service                                                               
(USPS) employees to  ensure that materials and  ballots arrive on                                                               
time.   With regard  to the  election bag that  was found  on the                                                               
road, the  division has no  control over materials once  they are                                                               
in the  custody of USPS.   In response  to a series  of questions                                                               
from Representative  Carpenter, she  confirmed that  policies and                                                               
procedures  guide  daily workflow  and  are  revised and  updated                                                               
every odd year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER,  in   response  to  a  series   of  questions  from                                                               
Representative  Gray  and Chair  Vance,  said  there is  no  cure                                                               
process, so if  someone makes an error on  their absentee ballot,                                                               
they  are notified  after  the  election.   In  the  case of  the                                                               
ballots  with  the  wrong  judicial  district,  the  mistake  was                                                               
considered an  "agency error,"  so affected  voters were  able to                                                               
re-vote with  a correct ballot.   The division is  indifferent on                                                               
whether a cure process should be  implemented, as this would be a                                                               
policy  call for  the legislature.   Many  ballots were  rejected                                                               
because voters forgot to include  a witness signature.  In person                                                               
voters can fix a spoiled ballot  by ripping up the spoiled ballot                                                               
in  front of  election  officials and  revoting  a fresh  ballot.                                                               
Spoiled ballots are retained for 22  months and used by the State                                                               
Review Board  when accounting for  ballots.  Not  all communities                                                               
choose to be an AVO location.   To avoid double voting, early in-                                                               
person  votes are  held until  after election  workers input  the                                                               
information from  the registers.   Ballots can be received  by e-                                                               
mail  or fax,  but  they  must be  returned  by  mail.   Absentee                                                               
ballots postmarked on  Election Day are acceptable up  to 15 days                                                               
after  and  the  information  on the  envelope  is  reviewed  for                                                               
accuracy and proper coding by  division staff and Absentee Review                                                               
Board members  before opening.   Observers are in  attendance and                                                               
given the  opportunity to challenge  a ballot.  The  same process                                                               
is used for question ballots.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER continued  presentation on slide 9  and described the                                                               
process for  transmitting election results.   Scanner results are                                                               
transmitted to  the Juneau DOE  office with a  secured, encrypted                                                               
package  and  an  air-gapped  server.   Hand  count  results  are                                                               
tallied and  called in to  the regional office by  the precincts.                                                               
Tallies are  then scanned and filed  to the Juneau DOE  office on                                                               
election night.   Voted ballots  and registers are mailed  to the                                                               
Juneau  office.   Two precincts  attempted  to call  in and  were                                                               
unable  to  get through.    Instead,  they  decided to  mail  the                                                               
information, which  caused a delay.   In response to a  series of                                                               
questions  by Chair  Vance, she  said hand  counts are  literally                                                               
done by hand.   The division is considering ideas,  such as using                                                               
Starlink,  to   expand  scanner  capabilities  and   quicken  the                                                               
process.     She   discussed  the   training  of   poll  workers,                                                               
specifically  those  conducting  hand counts,  on  ranked  choice                                                               
voting (RCV).   She  confirmed that on  Election Day,  no workers                                                               
were able or willing to open the polls in Wales and Kaktovik.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER continued  the presentation on slide  10 and detailed                                                               
the chain of  custody and audits.  Hand counts  are conducted for                                                               
one randomly  selected house district  with 5 percent or  more of                                                               
the vote  to ensure accuracy of  scanned results.  If  there is a                                                               
discrepancy  of  more than  1  percent,  the entire  district  is                                                               
recounted by  hand.  Absentee/Question Review  Boards are another                                                               
form of  auditing for  absentee and  question ballots.   Finally,                                                               
the  State Review  Board reviews  all ballot  tallies from  every                                                               
precinct to ensure  their accuracy.  Once the  State Review Board                                                               
is  satisfied, the  results  are certified.    She outlined  vote                                                               
counting  and  transparency, per  the  processes  outlined in  AS                                                               
15.20.081.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER, in  response to a series of  questions from members,                                                               
said she would  have done the following  three things differently                                                               
to avoid the  mistakes that occurred in the 2024  election:  more                                                               
thoroughly  edit  the OEP;  ensure  that  advertising didn't  use                                                               
names; and  better anticipate the  level of  communication that's                                                               
needed.   She  assured the  committee  that the  division saw  no                                                               
evidence of fraud, adding that  two attorneys observed the entire                                                               
recount.  The division installed  a monitoring system to look for                                                               
trends on a large scale.   She encouraged voters to take personal                                                               
responsibility  for safeguarding  their information  and checking                                                               
their    My    Voter    Portal,    which    is    available    on                                                               
www.elections.alaska.gov.   The  division implemented  BallotTrax                                                               
for the  congressional special election  in 2022; however,  it is                                                               
no longer  being used due  to its ineffectiveness.   She detailed                                                               
the 2020 data  breach and said DOE responded  by increasing state                                                               
security   and   firewalls,   implementing   quarterly   security                                                               
training,  engaging with  the Cyber  Security and  Infrastructure                                                               
Security  Agency   (CISA),  and   certifying  equipment   by  the                                                               
Elections Assistance Commission (EAC).   In response to questions                                                               
from  Representative  Gray,  she  reiterated that  there  was  no                                                               
evidence in  the 2024  election that  bad actors  voted Alaskans'                                                               
absentee  ballots without  their knowledge.   Permanent  absentee                                                               
voting sites (PAVS) is a  designation given to communities within                                                               
a precinct  that lack  the ability  to geographically  access the                                                               
main precinct polling locations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER,  in   response  to  a  series   of  questions  from                                                               
Representative  Carpenter regarding  voter  fraud,  she said  the                                                               
division knows  when an  absentee ballot  is requested.   Ballots                                                               
are rejected  if the name on  the ballot does not  match the name                                                               
of the  person who requested it.   The voter rolls  show deceased                                                               
individuals  and  those  who  have committed  a  crime  of  moral                                                               
turpitude among the  list of inactive voters.   These individuals                                                               
cannot  change their  status to  "active" without  reapplying, in                                                               
which case the system would flag them.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER concluded the presentation  on slide 16, which listed                                                               
the following lessons learned and ideas for draft legislation:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Lessons:                                                                                                                   
     •Communications                                                                                                            
     •Mailing Challenges                                                                                                        
     •Early Voting                                                                                                              
     •Rural  R4                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Legislation (draft):                                                                                                       
     •Regional educational attendance area elections                                                                            
     •PFD applications                                                                                                          
     •Election administration                                                                                                   
     •Ballot counting                                                                                                           
     •Official Election Pamphlets (OEP)                                                                                         
     •Voter residence                                                                                                           
     •Voter registration                                                                                                        
     •Voting by mail                                                                                                            
     •Absentee voting                                                                                                           
    •Confidential   information   in   voter   registration                                                                     
     records                                                                                                                    
     •Postage paid return Absentee Envelopes                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:08:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE recommended  more checks  and balances  and training                                                               
for election  workers.  She said  the public is counting  on more                                                               
open dialogue and thanked Ms.  Beecher for acknowledging that and                                                               
handling the tough questions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:10:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at [3:10]                                                                    
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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