Legislature(1993 - 1994)
02/16/1993 03:00 PM House HES
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HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES
STANDING COMMITTEE
February 16, 1993
3:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Rep. Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair, arrived later
Rep. Con Bunde, Co-Chair
Rep. Gary Davis, Vice Chair
Rep. Al Vezey
Rep. Pete Kott
Rep. Harley Olberg
Rep. Bettye Davis
Rep. Irene Nicholia, arrived later
Rep. Tom Brice
MEMBERS ABSENT
None
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
Dr. John Jensen, PhD: presentation on learning methods for
greater retention.
*HB 109: "An Act relating to blood tests for persons
charged with sex offenses; and providing for an
effective date."
PASSED WITH INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS
(* First public hearing.)
WITNESS REGISTER
DR. JOHN JENSEN, PhD
11329 19th Ave. NE
Seattle, WA 98125
Phone: (206) 361-0270
Position Statement: Presentation
CATHY KATSEL, Grants Administrator
Department of Public Safety
5700 E. Tudor Rd.
Anchorage, AK 99507-1225
Phone: (907) 269-5082
Position Statement: Available on teleconference
to answer questions
DR. PETER NAKAMURA, Director
Division of Public Health
Department of Health and Social Services
P.O. Box 110610
Juneau, Alaska 99811-0610
Phone: (907) 465-3090
Position Statement: Answered questions on HB 109
REP. PETE KOTT
Alaska State Legislature
Room 409, Capitol Building
Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182
Phone: (907) 465-3777
Position Statement: Prime Sponsor of HB 109
JACK PHELPS
Aide to Rep. Pete Kott
Alaska State Legislature
Room 409, Capitol Building
Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182
Phone: (907) 465-3777
Position Statement: Answered questions on HB 109
for prime sponsor
MARGOT KNUTH
Assistant Attorney General
Department of Law
P.O. Box 110300
Juneau, Alaska 99811-0300
Phone: (907) 465-4049
Position Statement: Answered questions on HB 109
JERRY LUCKHAUPT
Legislative Legal Counsel
Division of Legal Affairs
Legislative Affairs Agency
130 Seward St.
Juneau, Alaska 99801-2105
Phone: (907) 465-2450
Position Statement: Drafted HB 109, answered questions
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 93-14, SIDE A
Number 000
CHAIR BUNDE called the meeting to order at 3:04 p.m. and
noted members present. He announced the meeting calendar.
DR. JOHN JENSEN: LEARNING METHODS FOR GREATER RETENTION
Number 024
DR. JENSEN introduced himself as an INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT,
unaffiliated with any organization. He said his ideas are
not meant as criticism of the current educational system.
He described himself as a fifth-generation Alaskan who has
widely traveled the state, and who studied social and
emotional development of children in the classroom in his
doctorate-level study. He said his ideas are based on 20
years' experience.
DR. JENSEN said students do not develop a mastery base of
knowledge they can explain to others, development of which
is essential in vocational success in life. He said mastery
results from various methods of installing information in
students, and from saving this information and building upon
it. The inability of the current educational system to help
students save information is not the fault of students or
parents, but of the "teach and leave" teaching method. This
method requires only that students retain information long
enough to pass a test and does not require students to
retain or build on their knowledge.
Number 159
DR. JENSEN stated teachers spend approximately 45,000
minutes per year (50 minutes per hour, five hours per day,
180 days per year) with students. A student who is able to
recite back five minutes per day of the material he is
exposed to would develop 15 hours of mastery in a year.
Number 176
DR. JENSEN described two principles of learning: students
learn best by talking about what they learn; and the effort
to recall is the most efficient way to deepen memory.
Learning is therefore well-achieved by trying to recall and
discuss material. He referred to Appendix four, a flowchart
entitled, "The System of Easy Learning," contained within
his handout to the committee members (and on file in the
committee room) in which students discuss information among
themselves to master small chunks of information, then build
on that to master feats. Dr. Jensen then referred to the
last page of his handout, entitled, "What Easy Learning
Adds," which includes selection of priorities, practice in
explaining and recall, further explaining and recall, and
performance and recognition of knowledge.
Number 270
DR. JENSEN said he has developed simple patterns for
teachers to integrate the principals he discussed. They
include building a learning feat list, practicing with
partners, and reporting on partner progress.
Number 307
DR. JENSEN encouraged the legislature to pay more attention
to teaching practices instead of just capital and funding
needs. He suggested that his program could be established
as a service through the University of Alaska teacher
training and outreach program. Dr. Jensen said he would be
available to do such work if the legislature desired, though
he is now on a full-time contract to provide services to a
school in Seattle for behaviorally disturbed children.
Number 330
CHAIR BUNDE asked how the Easy Learning program would deal
with students in Alaska whose culture discourages them from
speaking up in class.
DR. JENSEN said such students can be taught early by
requiring short answers to questions, then systematically
building their ability and confidence to give longer and
more involved responses and class participation. He said
the educational system needs only fine-tuning.
Number 371
REP. TOOHEY asked at what grade level Dr. Jensen's program
should be initiated. She asked whether the Yakutat school
district had initiated his program at the kindergarten
level.
DR. JENSEN responded that the program can apply at all
levels, from kindergarten to 12th grade, though it is easier
to employ at the higher grades when children are verbally
developed.
CHAIR BUNDE invited questions to the superintendent of the
Yakutat School District, but upon learning he was not
connected through teleconference, invited members to call or
write him.
Number 385
REP. TOOHEY asked if Dr. Jensen had introduced his program
first in Yakutat schools, and asked whether it was
successful.
DR. JENSEN answered that it was the first district in
Alaska, but he had introduced the program in a Seattle
school for behaviorally disturbed children two years ago.
He said individual teachers had used the program
successfully, and he was integrating the program into the
entire school. He referred to his handout, containing a
testimonial from a fourth-grade teacher in Seattle who
claimed the program prompted children to take pleasure in
recounting what they had learned.
CHAIR BUNDE asked the cost of implementing the program.
Number 402
DR. JENSEN said the Seattle school was a special school for
behaviorally disturbed children, and as such, it takes a
long time to integrate new teaching approaches. He said he
had a $3,200 contract with the Yakutat school district, and
he believed he could install the program in a school in a
week, plus some follow-up. He said Yakutat teachers are
interested in the program and approach, though teachers
change teaching styles at different rates. He said Yakutat
employs the nation's 1979 Teacher of the Year, Elaine
Barber, who agreed to be the staff development person for
the program and announced her intent to employ the
communications skills check-sheet contained in the program.
Number 430
REP. PETE KOTT asked whether the cost of implementation and
time required would vary with the size of the district.
DR. JENSEN said he would save time and money in larger
districts by indoctrinating a few master teachers with the
program for a week or two, then enlisting their help in
spreading the concept into the schools. He said the
pattern-based characteristics of the program made it simple
to implement.
Number 447
CHAIR BUNDE asked whether teachers would use their normal
books and teaching materials.
DR. JENSEN answered yes. He mentioned a book entitled,
"Cultural Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know," by
E.B. Hirsch, Jr., who has also written a book entitled,
"What Every Third-Grader Should Know."
Number 456
REP. NICHOLIA asked how any Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)
children in Dr. Jensen's classrooms had responded to his
program.
DR. JENSEN said education of FAS students must start at a
more elementary level than for others, must be encouraged to
build a feeling of success, and need to know the group norm
so they can follow it.
Number 460
REP. NICHOLIA asked if the same held true for cocaine
babies.
DR. JENSEN answered yes, and that the starting point for
educating students with impairments must be fine-tuned
carefully. He said the principals of reinforcement and
clear identification of success are critical for impaired
students.
Number 480
CHAIR BUNDE noted the state's increasing challenge of how to
deal with FAS children, and asked whether Dr. Jensen had
worked with such students.
DR. JENSEN said some of the students at the school in
Seattle where he consults are FAS students.
REP. TOOHEY asked for communication in a few months from the
Yakutat school district on the success of Dr. Jensen's
learning model.
DR. JENSEN said he expected the district to have a report
prepared in about a month.
CHAIR BUNDE encouraged Dr. Jensen to have the Yakutat
district officials correspond with the committee about the
program.
CHAIR BUNDE called an at-ease at 3:37 p.m.
HB 109: "BLOOD TESTS ON SEX CRIME PERPETRATORS
CHAIR TOOHEY reconvened the meeting at 3:40 p.m., announced
she was chairing the meeting, and brought HB 109 to the
table. Members present were Reps. Bunde, G. Davis, Kott,
Olberg, B. Davis and Brice. Absent were Reps. Vezey and
Nicholia.
REP. BUNDE moved that CSHB 109 be utilized as a working
draft of the bill. Hearing no objection, the committee took
up CSHB 109 as a working draft.
CHAIR TOOHEY announced that CATHY KATSEL, GRANTS
ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, was on
line via teleconference to answer questions.
Number 510
REP. PETE KOTT, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 109, introduced himself
and presented CSHB 109. He read a statement in support of
the bill, calling it a victims' rights bill addressing a
sexual assault victim's fears of being infected with HIV or
other communicable diseases. If a defendant tests positive
for HIV antibodies, the victim would have early warning of
possible infection. The bill requires that a victim be
offered information, counseling and referral to help make
informed health decisions. While a negative test is no
guarantee that infection did not take place, the information
could provide a victim some valuable hope.
Since 1987, according to Rep. Kott, 24 states have enacted
similar legislation. House Bill 109 requires the court to
order the test upon a victim's request and the court's
finding of probable cause of attack likely to result in
infection. Rights to privacy in Alaska might make it
difficult to follow other states' practices of testing at
arrest or arrest. Rep. Kott said congress indicated that
states are responsible for notifying victims after their
attackers are convicted, of whether the attackers carry HIV.
Congress made receipt of some federal grants contingent on
the assumption of such responsibility. Failure to pass a
bill similar to HB 109 would cost Alaska approximately
$185,000 in FY94, he said.
Number 555
REP. NICHOLIA handed out a document on Department of Health
and Social Services letterhead entitled, "Technical Issues
Concerning House Bill No. 109," and referred to the third
page, "Problems with the language of certain sections of
HB 109, and the recommendation to change the word
"communicable" to "sexually transmitted disease (STD)." She
asked for an amendment making such changes in page 3,
section (d), and page 4, section (h), of the work draft for
CSHB 109.
Number 578
REP. BRICE moved the amendment.
REP. KOTT asked if there was a motion on the floor, and
asked whether hepatitis B was included as a sexually
transmitted disease (STD).
REP. OLBERG asked why limit the range of diseases of which
the bill requires notice.
REP. BRICE responded, referring to page 3 of the "Technical
Issues" document. He said that changing "communicable" to
"sexually transmitted diseases" was consistent with the
nature of the bill as relating to sexual offenses.
Number 597
REP. OLBERG said he did not read it that way. He stated
there must be some diseases that can be spread sexually that
are not defined as a sexually transmitted disease in a
general sense. Hepatitis B, for example, is not generally
considered an STD, he said. He asked again, Why limit the
bill? He said that whenever the issue of victim's rights
arises, "we get picky."
TAPE 93-14, SIDE B
Number 000
DR. PETER NAKAMURA, DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION OF PUBLIC
HEALTH, said using the word "communicable" diseases would
hugely expand the range of diseases covered, such as measles
and chicken pox, which would be outside the scope of HB 109.
REP. KOTT asked again whether hepatitis B would be
considered an STD under the amendment.
DR. NAKAMURA said no.
REP. BRICE mentioned that the fiscal note referred only to
tests for HIV and serum tests. He asked whether using the
word "communicable" would affect the fiscal note.
DR. NAKAMURA said such action would significantly increase
the fiscal note by including other communicable diseases.
Number 075
REP. VEZEY objected to the "Technical Issues" document,
saying it arrived during the meeting and was not signed or
addressed.
CHAIR TOOHEY asked Rep. Kott if he had any answer to the
questions raised by the "Technical Issues" document.
REP. KOTT responded that he was still studying the document,
having received it along with other members. He said he had
no difficulty including STDs in the bill as long as it also
provides for hepatitis B, a disease which concerns
administrators of prisons and jails.
REP. OLBERG said he had reservations about the document. He
objected in particular to page 2, second paragraph, which
encouraged providing victims of sexual assault with, among
other things, individualized counseling regarding safer sex,
as more important than blood testing of the assailant.
Number 089
REP. BUNDE said that recommendation seemed to put the
responsibility for the assault on the victim. He asked how
hepatitis B was transmitted, how it poses a health hazard,
and why it was included in the bill.
REP. KOTT said hepatitis B is easy to transmit and does not
require sexual penetration. Institutions are therefore more
concerned about inmates transmitting hepatitis B than AIDS,
which requires closer contact.
(Rep. Olberg left at 3:57 p.m.)
REP. BUNDE said the bill mentions sexual assault and
penetration, and hepatitis B did not seem to fit in well
with a sexual assault bill.
REP. KOTT invited a staff member to comment.
Number 100
JACK PHELPS, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO REP. KOTT, said the bill
has been characterized as an HIV testing bill, but the
drafters' concerns for victims extend beyond HIV tests.
It seemed that, as hepatitis B could be transmitted during
sexual assault, it might be appropriate for the bill to
require hepatitis B testing as well. He said he had no
objection to changing "communicable" to STD, as long as
provisions were made for hepatitis B. He noted that the
fiscal note from Health and Social Services (HSS) included
the cost of screening for hepatitis B.
Number 154
REP. NICHOLIA said the "Technical Issues" document she
passed out was ordered from the HSS Division of Public
Health's epidemiology section in Anchorage.
REP. BETTYE DAVIS asked Dr. Nakamura's comments on including
hepatitis B in the bill.
DR. NAKAMURA said the was glad the emphasis was no longer
solely on HIV and AIDS. He said the bill, by expanding to
include STDs detectible by blood tests, also included
syphilis. He expressed surprise that hepatitis B was
included because it is not an STD, though it can be tested
through a blood test.
Number 181
REP. KOTT responded that he believed hepatitis B could be
transmitted sexually, and results from early testing of
sexual assailants could be of benefit to their victims.
DR. NAKAMURA said hepatitis B is blood-borne, and he did not
see why it should be included in HB 109.
CHAIR TOOHEY asked if the committee would agree to include
STDs and communicable diseases.
DR. NAKAMURA said such an action would broaden the bill's
scope.
Number 210
REP. BUNDE said he basically supports the bill, but said if
hepatitis B was a problem with inmates, then hepatitis B
testing should be required of all inmates, not just those
arrested and charged with sexual assault, for their health
and that of others. He reminded the committee of the
amendment under consideration to change "communicable
disease" to "sexually transmitted disease" and noted Rep.
Kott's desire for hepatitis B testing to be included.
REP. G. DAVIS said it looked like the bill needed more
amending so as to accommodate STDs and hepatitis B testing.
Number 230
CHAIR TOOHEY asked Dr. Nakamura whether hepatitis B was
serious enough a problem in jails that it deserved attention
by the legislature.
DR. NAKAMURA responded that he would not want to see the
problem addressed in HB 109. He said the bill addresses
HIV, then expanded to other STDs detectible by blood tests.
Though hepatitis B is a problem with significant numbers of
inmates, it is a different issue.
REP. KOTT asked Dr. Nakamura whether victims of sexual
assault were at risk from hepatitis B.
DR. NAKAMURA said he could not testify 100 percent against
that, but he was not aware that such a risk was common.
Number 265
CHAIR TOOHEY asked whether there were ways to treat
hepatitis B after exposure.
DR. NAKAMURA responded yes, that immune globulin treatment
soon after exposure could immunize a victim against the
disease.
REP. KOTT said that, in light of Dr. Nakamura's testimony,
he would withdraw his attempt to include hepatitis B in
HB 109.
Number 280
REP. BUNDE restated the amendment to replace the words
"communicable disease" with "sexually transmitted disease."
REP. G. DAVIS said he had seen hepatitis B referred to only
in the fiscal note.
JACK PHELPS said hepatitis B was included in the bill only
under definition of communicable diseases, and excluding it
from the bill would affect the fiscal note.
CHAIR TOOHEY called for a roll call vote on the amendment.
REP. VEZEY asked to see the amendment in writing.
Number 305
REP. NICHOLIA pointed out the areas in the work draft that
would be affected by the amendment.
The committee members asked informal questions on the
changes, discussed possible wordings among themselves, and
restated the amendment.
Number 379
CHAIR TOOHEY called for a voice vote on the amendment to
change "communicable diseases" to "sexually transmitted
diseases" in several places in the working draft. Hearing
no objection, Chair Toohey declared the amendment passed.
Number 385
MARGOT KNUTH, OF THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW'S CRIMINAL DIVISION,
said she had concerns about some language in the bill as it
concerned victims' rights. She asked whether it would be
possible to make changes to allow prosecuting attorneys to
have blood tests done on victims of sexual assault with or
without a victim's request. She said that would help
relieve the frequent reluctance of young victims to take
responsibility for pushing prosecution forward. She said
prosecutors would not insist on such tests if they were
harmful to the victim.
REP. VEZEY stated that a crime cannot be prosecuted without
a complainant.
MS. KNUTH said it was true that there must be some legal
proceeding for a prosecutor to be involved, but the
Department of Law wanted the bill to allow either a victim,
or the prosecutor, to request the blood test.
REP. VEZEY repeated his statement that prosecutors
represented the victim.
MS. KNUTH demurred, saying that prosecutors represent the
state, and will prosecute in cases in which the victims did
not want the prosecution to continue. This frequently
occurs in cases such as domestic violence or intra-family
sexual abuse, she said.
REP. BUNDE asked if there could be a situation in which a
victim could not request the blood testing, but in which it
would be in the victim's best interest.
CHAIR TOOHEY interjected, noting that standard procedures
for emergency room treatment of rape victims include
treatment with antibiotics to combat STDs.
MS. KNUTH said that a situation such as Rep. Bunde described
was possible.
Number 494
REP. KOTT asked if Ms. Knuth's proposed amendment left
prosecutors the right to require a blood test in defiance of
the victim's wishes.
MS. KNUTH responded yes. She said it could not hurt the
victim to compel the assailant to submit to a blood test,
and that such a test could provide some factual information
that could help the victim.
Number 510
MR. PHELPS asked what use a blood test on an assailant might
be to a victim who did not want to know the results.
MS. KNUTH responded that the information would be available
when the victim had a change of heart.
REP. BRICE asked whether allowing blood tests without a
victim's authorization might provide information that could
be conveyed to any institution in which the defendant might
be detained.
MS. KNUTH agreed that such information could be made
available to such an institution.
MR. PHELPS suggested making provisions in the bill to allow
a victim's parent or guardian to request blood tests of an
assailant.
MS. KNUTH said that would be an appropriate consideration,
as it is unreasonable to assume a three-year-old would
request such a test.
Number 549
CHAIR TOOHEY and Ms. Knuth discussed the most appropriate
amendment language to effect the changes Ms. Knuth
suggested.
TAPE 93-15, SIDE A
Number 000
CHAIR TOOHEY called for a vote on the amendment to add
language to page 2, line 1, of the working draft:
"...juvenile petition, the parent or guardian, or the
prosecuting attorney on the behalf of an alleged victim, may
..." She called for a voice vote, and then, upon hearing
opposition, called for a roll call vote on the amendment.
Those voting in favor of the amendment were Reps. Toohey,
Bunde, G. Davis, Kott, B. Davis, Nicholia, Brice. Those
voting against the amendment were Rep. Vezey. Rep. Olberg
was not present.
CHAIR TOOHEY invited Ms. Knuth to offer her next concern
with HB 109.
Number 030
MS. KNUTH offered an amendment that would avoid the need for
a separate hearing, complete with cross-examination, in
order to establish probable cause and therefore allow the
blood test. Instead of waiting until after conviction to
allow such tests, she suggested allowing a judge to rely on
evidence presented in a grand jury or preliminary hearing.
Number 050
REP. BUNDE said it might be necessary for committee members
to see the amendment in writing.
MS. KNUTH read the amendment aloud, striking from page 2
line 5 and 6 the words "if such a determination has not
already been made", and striking from lines 8, 9 and 10 the
words, "The court may hold a hearing at which evidence may
be received concerning the probable cause determinations
required by this subsection." The amendment adds the
following language to line 10: "In making the determination
the court may rely on the evidence presented at a grand jury
proceeding or preliminary hearing."
Number 075
CHAIR TOOHEY indicated that Ms. Knuth's proposed amendment
was included in the working draft of HB 109, and invited Ms.
Knuth to present her next amendment.
MS. KNUTH referred to elements of the bill on page 5 that
made disclosure of the identity of people taking blood tests
ordered under the bill a class C misdemeanor. She said the
ban on disclosure, as written, also bars victims from naming
their assailant as possibly infected. She suggested making
such disclosure a contempt of court violation, and leaving
it up to a judge's discretion to impose sanction for such
disclosure.
Number 140
REP. VEZEY said he could not conceive of barring someone who
contracted AIDS from an assailant from telling the world
about it, or of any court punishing them for doing so.
REP. KOTT deferred the issue to Jerry Luckhaupt, who drafted
the bill.
Number 150
JERRY LUCKHAUPT, LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL FOR THE DIVISION OF
LEGAL SERVICES, said HB 109 allows victims to make some
disclosures about his conditions, to keep his family safe,
secure medical treatment, and achieve other aims. He said
the bill could be modified to meet the committee's intent.
Number 190
REP. VEZEY said he was unhappy at creating a misdemeanor,
which is punishable by up to a year in prison, which can
cost up to $50,000.
REP. BUNDE expressed concerns about victimizing the victim
gain for proclaiming the facts of an attack. He expressed
hope that the contempt of court provision would be a good
compromise.
Number 209
REP. VEZEY asked whether any health care professional who
disclosed results of a blood test would not be subject to
sanction.
CHAIR TOOHEY responded that most hospitals do not release
such information without a patient's consent as a matter of
policy, not state law.
REP. NICHOLIA asked what contempt of court meant and what
punishments it carried.
MS. KNUTH responded that it is a sanction for violating a
court order. While it is punishable by up to $300 in fines,
a judge also has the latitude to require or forgo an
appearance before the bench, which can be an intimidating
procedure.
Number 232
REP. KOTT said that, based on Ms. Knuth's testimony, he had
no objection to her amendment concerning disclosure. He
said the intent of the bill was not to prevent the victim,
but correctional authorities, health professionals or others
from disclosing information on blood testing.
REP. BUNDE suggested specifically giving victims the right
to disclose such information.
MS. KNUTH said it does look funny to grant victims an
exemption from the disclosure sanction. She hoped to avoid
having two standards for the rule.
REP. BUNDE moved the amendment.
MS. KNUTH read the amendment, which would change page 5,
line 15, striking the words "is guilty of a class A
misdemeanor" and adding "may be held in contempt of court."
REP. VEZEY asked whether making disclosure against the law,
and providing a contempt of court penalty would not be
redundant.
CHAIR TOOHEY called an at-ease at 4:49 p.m. She called the
meeting back to order at 4:51 p.m.
Number 320
MS. KNUTH said including the contempt of court language
would demonstrate the legislature's intended method of
sanction for disclosure, and as such, would be useful.
REP. KOTT expressed satisfaction with the amendment, saying
it is better to be safe than sorry.
CHAIR TOOHEY reread the amendment, asked for objection, and
heard none.
REP. B. DAVIS asked why the bill does not allow the court to
order the blood test within seven days after arrest.
MR. LUCKHAUPT said that was to avoid giving the test to
people until it was reasonably clear that the charges would
not be dropped, which, when it happens, occurs in the first
week after arrest. It also allows time for a defendant to
secure legal counsel before the test.
REP. B. DAVIS asked why the hurry to test, when it may take
months for evidence of recent HIV infection to appear in an
assailant. She suggested performing the test later.
Number 343
MR. LUCKHAUPT said the bill sponsors want the tests soon
after arrest so victims can seek treatment if the test shows
a chance of infection.
REP. B. DAVIS asked Rep. Kott about other states with
similar laws, and asked when those laws require testing of
assailants.
REP. KOTT responded that the different laws in other states
require testing ranging from seven days after arrest to
following conviction, which can take two years. He said the
seven-day provision allows the establishment of probable
cause, either through preliminary hearing or grand jury
indictment.
Number 375
MS. KNUTH said waiting longer than seven days may have
medical value, as infection does not manifest itself
immediately. She suggested requiring that tests be
performed more than once.
REP. KOTT reminded the committee that they gad added other
STDs, including syphilis and gonorrhea. He said victims
need to know soon if they are infected, so as to protect
their partners and families.
REP. BUNDE said more tests make more surety.
Number 394
REP. BRICE asked when the CDVSA (Council on Domestic
Violence and SExual Assault) position paper would be
adopted.
REP. BUNDE moved passage of HB 109 with individual
recommendations.
CHAIR TOOHEY called for a voice vote on the motion. Hearing
no objections, she declared the bill passed from the
committee with individual recommendations.
CHAIR TOOHEY announced a joint Senate-House meeting for the
following day in the Butrovich room, and ADJOURNED the
meeting at approximately 5:00 p.m.
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