Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/25/2025 10:00 AM House FISHERIES

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10:02:46 AM Start
10:03:38 AM Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission
10:30:42 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission:
Rick Green, Commissioner; Fishermen's Fund
Advisory and Appeals Council: Mary Swain
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                       February 25, 2025                                                                                        
                           10:02 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Louise Stutes, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Elam                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S);                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Mary Swain - Naknek                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Rick Green - Anchorage                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MARY SWAIN, Appointee                                                                                                           
Naknek, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Fishermen's                                                                
Fund Advisory & Appeals Council.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RICK GREEN, Appointee                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified as  appointee to  the Commercial                                                             
Fisheries Entry Commission.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:02:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LOUISE  STUTES  called  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries meeting to order at  10:02 a.m.  Representatives Vance,                                                               
Kopp, Himschoot, Edgmon,  and Stutes were present at  the call to                                                               
order.   Representative  McCabe  arrived as  the  meeting was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
^FISHERMEN'S FUND ADVISORY AND APPEALS COUNCIL                                                                                  
         FISHERMEN'S FUND ADVISORY AND APPEALS COUNCIL                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
^COMMERCIAL FISHERIES ENTRY COMMISSION                                                                                          
             COMMERCIAL FISHERIES ENTRY COMMISSION                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:03:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
confirmation  hearings  on  the governor's  appointments  to  the                                                               
Fishermen's Fund  Advisory & Appeals  Council and  the Commercial                                                               
Fisheries Entry Commission.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:03:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES explained that the  fishermen's fund was established                                                               
in  1951  to provide  treatment  and  care to  Alaska's  licensed                                                               
commercial  fishermen   who  have  been  injured   while  fishing                                                               
offshore in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:04:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARY  SWAIN,  Appointee,  Fishermen's  Fund  Advisory  &  Appeals                                                               
Council began by explaining that  for the past several years, she                                                               
has served as the executive  director and chief executive officer                                                               
for a community  health center located in Bristol Bay.   She said                                                               
that in  this capacity,  she has  led significant  expansions and                                                               
enhancements in  health care services  with a strong  emphasis on                                                               
fiscal  responsibility,   community  engagement,   and  strategic                                                               
planning.   She  said  the  health care  center  is dedicated  to                                                               
serving  a   diverse  community,  including  those   involved  in                                                               
Alaska's vital fisheries.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SWAIN explained that her  connection to Alaska's Fisheries is                                                               
not only  professional but  deeply personal.   She said  that she                                                               
has worked closely  alongside people who depend  on the fisheries                                                               
as  their livelihood.   She  said understanding  their challenges                                                               
and  advocating  for solutions  has  been  a  major part  of  her                                                               
leadership approach.   She  said that the  fishermen's fund  is a                                                               
critical resource  for fishermen  and provides  necessary support                                                               
in time of  injury, and ensures the workforce is  protected.  She                                                               
said this  appointment aligns  with her  work background  and she                                                               
had previous  work experience navigating  both state  and federal                                                               
compliance  requirements.   She said  she was  eager to  take her                                                               
background to  the fishermen's fund  and believes  her experience                                                               
in  healthcare management,  community  leadership and  regulatory                                                               
compliance  would  contribute   significantly  to  the  council's                                                               
mission.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:06:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON commented  that he  could not  think of  a                                                               
better candidate for  the board.  He said  Ms. Swain's background                                                               
is  exemplary and  thought the  committee should  quickly approve                                                               
her and move forward with business.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:07:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  said that  his son did  part of  his medical                                                               
internship at the clinic Ms. Swain  was affiliated with.  He said                                                               
that she  helped keep  the Bristol Bay  Fishery alive  during the                                                               
COVID-19 pandemic and talked about  the critical and central work                                                               
that she  did to help accommodate  workers.  He said  this is one                                                               
of many examples of her service to the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:08:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES  opened  public   testimony  for  the  confirmation                                                               
hearing of Ms.  Swain to the Fishermen's Fund  Advisory & Appeals                                                               
Council.    After ascertaining  that  nobody  wished to  testify,                                                               
closed public testimony for the confirmation hearing.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:09:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RICK  GREEN,  Appointee,   Commercial  Fishing  Entry  Commission                                                               
(CFEC), said  that he recently  finished six years  of employment                                                               
with the  Alaska Department of  Fish &  Game (ADF&G).   He shared                                                               
his  long  history  in Alaska,  including  work  experience  that                                                               
included a job  with the late Senator Dennis  Egan, fish guiding,                                                               
project management  for engineering and environmental  firms, and                                                               
serving as  special assistant  to Commissioner  Doug Vincent-Lang                                                               
at the  Alaska Department of  Fish &  Game.  He  personalized his                                                               
testimony  by speaking  about  his children  and  sharing that  a                                                               
heart attack seven years ago prompted  him to assess his life and                                                               
make the  decision to serve the  people of Alaska and  his desire                                                               
to serve on CFEC.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:14:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  what optimization  studies  had                                                               
been completed recently and how [CFEC] prioritizes them.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  responded that optimization  studies are  initiated by                                                               
proposals and  can come from  the public, the Board  of Fisheries                                                               
or "wherever".   He said  that currently  one is being  worked on                                                               
regarding Kodiak herring.  He said  that the Limited Entry Act is                                                               
now 50  years old  and suggested that  some modernization  may be                                                               
required  to optimize  the  studies.   He  said the  optimization                                                               
studies  are  just  numbers  and  math,  and  said  he  was  very                                                               
comfortable with this type of  analytical work given his previous                                                               
project  management  background.    He  said  that  there  is  an                                                               
incredible  staff at  CFEC, and  the lead  researcher does  these                                                               
studies and presents  them to him and  Commissioner Glenn Haight.                                                               
He said  it comes  done to  who wants them  done, who  needs them                                                               
done, at which point CFEC would provide and review them.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  who  Mr.  Green  replaced  when                                                               
initiating work with ADF&G.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  answered that  he did  not know who  he replaced.   He                                                               
said that  he joined ADF&G following  a group that had  been "let                                                               
go" and was assigned as a special assistant to the commissioner.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked if Mr. Green  had any suggestions                                                               
to where fishing limitations might be needed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  replied that he does  not necessarily look at  this as                                                               
his responsibility  because CFEC  responds to proposals  and acts                                                               
as the  avenue to get  proposals forward.   He said if  there are                                                               
issues that  need to be  brought up, an optimization  study could                                                               
be completed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT said that when  it was created, CFEC had                                                               
three commissioners and now it has two.   She said he had a split                                                               
vote  from the  other commissioner  on  a limited  fishery.   She                                                               
asked for elaboration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  clarified that  this is with  reference to  the Prince                                                               
William Sound Shrimp Fishery.  He  told her that he and the other                                                               
commissioner  split on  the  decision.   He  felt  that the  open                                                               
access was an  opportunity for Alaskans and  something that needs                                                               
to be  guarded and protected  for all  Alaskans until one  of two                                                               
things happen.   The first being a threat to  the conservation of                                                               
the resource, which he said is  the highest priority.  The second                                                               
pertains to  the economics for  the fishermen; when  the proposal                                                               
came, there had been no increased  effort to suggest it needed to                                                               
be limited.  He said he was the "no" vote on this issue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:18:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  remarked that  a story had  been published                                                               
by the  Northern Journal regarding  the "last man standing."   He                                                             
said this involved  a 76-year-old permit holder who  was the last                                                               
individual  fishing  out of  his  community.    He said  after  a                                                               
conversation  with Mr.  Haight regarding  the budget  numbers, it                                                               
was revealing  that the travel  budget was $28,000 and  from what                                                               
he  recalled, up  from  $17,000.   He asked  Mr.  Haight who  the                                                               
ambassador was  for this  community, and  who was  advocating for                                                               
keeping permits local.  He wanted  to give the opportunity to Mr.                                                               
Green  to  demonstrate  how he  would  approach  this  ambassador                                                               
position and what perspectives he had.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  confirmed that increasing CFEC  presence was something                                                               
that both Mr. Haight and him  discuss.  He said CFEC was starting                                                               
to increase  its presence but there  had been some cutbacks.   He                                                               
opined that the  outmigration of permits goes  against the intent                                                               
of the  Limited Entry  Act.  He  said that it  is a  deep concern                                                               
that everybody needs to address  and there are legal hurdles that                                                               
would need to be  faced.  He asked, "How do  we honor the Limited                                                               
Entry  Act   to  keep  these   economic  engines  in   the  small                                                               
communities?"    He  advised  that it  would  require  work  with                                                               
legislators.    He  said  that  both  him  and  Mr.  Haight  were                                                               
concerned about this issue and interested in addressing it.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  that it is  striking to him that  there is                                                               
no centralized voice on this  issue.  He said Representative Kopp                                                               
is  the  only  current  commercial  fisherman  in  the  House  of                                                               
Representatives.   He said that  it is quite depressing  to think                                                               
about this  topic and that nobody  was leading the charge  on it.                                                               
He  said Mr.  Haight was  doing a  wonderful job  on this  and he                                                               
expects that Mr.  Green would be "right alongside him."   He said                                                               
the issue  is growing in  prominence and  the state needed  to do                                                               
more.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  responded that  he agrees  "wholeheartedly."   He said                                                               
that the  intent of part  of the Act  was to keep  these economic                                                               
engines  ([fishing  jobs])  in  small places  without  a  lot  of                                                               
opportunity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:23:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES complimented  Representative Edgmon's  comment, and                                                               
that this  topic was  "so critical"  and considering  the fishing                                                               
situation now  and the  whole seafood industry  that they  had an                                                               
opportunity  to   "drill  down  on   it  and  hopefully   make  a                                                               
difference."  She expressed hope that  he and the CFEC would be a                                                               
critical part in helping put this together.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:24:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  remarked that  he was  proud to  support the                                                               
nomination of  Mr. Green, and  that he "brings  a lot."   He said                                                               
that as  someone who  has interfaced with  CFEC, he  always found                                                               
the  commission to  be incredibly  responsive.   He said  when it                                                               
comes to responsiveness and various  jobs, the CFEC is an amazing                                                               
team.   He  said the  background  in fishing  was refreshing  and                                                               
great to see.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  noted that the executive  director of CFEC was  in the                                                               
audience, and  she brought 17  years of experience to  the table.                                                               
He expressed his  optimism and intent to work with  her and other                                                               
CFEC staff.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:25:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked where he was located.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  responded that his  office was in Anchorage  and noted                                                               
that 3 people  with CFEC are in Southcentral Alaska.   He said it                                                               
gives an opportunity not to expand  the travel budget but to do a                                                               
lot of work  while in Southcentral.   He said that he  sees it as                                                               
an advantage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT commented  that  given  a Sitka  tribal                                                               
citizen in  Mr. Green's home  that she hopes  to see him  more in                                                               
Southeast.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:26:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  said that he  knows Mr. Green well  and is                                                               
convinced he will do a fabulous job.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:26:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES  opened  public   testimony  for  the  confirmation                                                               
hearing  of   Mr.  Green  to   the  Commercial   Fisheries  Entry                                                               
Commission.   After ascertaining  that nobody wished  to testify,                                                               
she closed public testimony for the confirmation hearing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:27:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON stated that  the House Special Committee on                                                               
Fisheries  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointees and  recommends that the following  names be forwarded                                                               
to a  joint session for  consideration:  Mary  Swain, Fishermen's                                                               
Fund Advisory  and Appeals; and Rick  Green, Commercial Fisheries                                                               
Entry  Commission.   He said  that signing  the report  regarding                                                               
appointments  to boards  and commissions  in no  way reflects  an                                                               
individual  member's approval  or disapproval  of the  appointee,                                                               
and the  nomination is merely  forwarded to the  full legislature                                                               
for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:28:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:28 a.m. to 10:30 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:30:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  discussed the upcoming  committee schedule  and the                                                               
bills pertinent to upcoming committee meetings.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:30:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 10:30                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Rick Green Fisheries Entry Comm resume_Redacted (1).pdf HFSH 2/25/2025 10:00:00 AM
Confirmation
Mary Swain Fishermen's Fund Resume_Redacted (1).pdf HFSH 2/25/2025 10:00:00 AM
Confirmation