Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/22/2025 11:00 AM House FISHERIES

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11:00:54 AM Start
11:01:48 AM HB93
11:26:20 AM Adjourn
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+= HB 93 RESIDENCY REQ: HUNTING, TRAPPING, FISHING TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 93 Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                       February 22, 2025                                                                                        
                           11:00 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Louise Stutes, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Bill Elam                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 93                                                                                                               
"An Act changing the residency requirements for hunting,                                                                        
trapping, and sport fishing privileges; and providing for an                                                                    
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 93 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  93                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RESIDENCY REQ: HUNTING, TRAPPING, FISHING                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HIMSCHOOT                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
02/10/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/10/25       (H)       FSH, RES                                                                                               
02/18/25       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
02/18/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/18/25       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/22/25       (H)       FSH AT 11:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR AARON FRENZEL, Deputy Director                                                                                            
Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                                                        
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions regarding HB 93                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:00:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LOUISE  STUTES  called  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries meeting to order at  11:00 a.m. Representatives Stutes,                                                               
Edgmon, Himschoot,  Kopp and  Vance were present  at the  call to                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        HB  93-RESIDENCY REQ: HUNTING, TRAPPING, FISHING                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
11:01:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 93, "An  Act changing the  residency requirements                                                               
for  hunting,   trapping,  and  sport  fishing   privileges;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  noted that it  was her intent,  and if the  will of                                                               
the committee, to move HB 93 to its next committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:02:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT,  as prime sponsor, reintroduced  HB 93.                                                               
She  remarked that  HB 93  would align  the resident  hunting and                                                               
fishing  licensure  requirements  with the  requirements  of  the                                                               
permanent  fund  dividend  (PFD).    She  said  this  would  make                                                               
residency more enforceable for law  enforcement and would lead to                                                               
more  effective citations  where they  are needed.   She  said it                                                               
would also  preserve the  resource for the  residents.   She said                                                               
the goal is to preserve resources and support law enforcement.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:04:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE said  that she  was looking  at a  document                                                               
that  the   Department  of  Public  Safety   legislative  liaison                                                               
provided regarding the annual  amount of residency investigations                                                               
conducted  by  law enforcement.    She  noted that  the  document                                                               
stated   that   the   Alaska  Wildlife   Troopers   conduct   118                                                               
investigations per  year.   She asked  how many  convictions were                                                               
made of these investigations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:05:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR AARON  FRENZEL, Deputy Director, Alaska  Wildlife Troopers,                                                               
Department of  Public Safety,  responded that  he looked  at this                                                               
number and  doing a thorough  investigation would take time.   He                                                               
remarked that each  case is different regarding  their outcome in                                                               
court.     He   explained  the   complications  associated   with                                                               
researching these  convictions.   He said that  out of  those 118                                                               
cases,  some could  involve multiple  years of  investigation and                                                               
could yield multiple charges for a single incident.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:06:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  said that  she  was  trying to  grasp  how                                                               
widespread of a  problem this is.  She noted  that something that                                                               
someone saw is often different from an actual conviction.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:07:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:07 a.m. to 11:14 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:14:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP asked Major  Frenzel that from an enforcement                                                               
perspective, did he  think that there is a  benefit to realigning                                                               
the residency requirement with the PFD requirements.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR  FRENZEL responded  that  having an  exact  number of  days                                                               
allowed  to  be absent  from  the  state would  make  enforcement                                                               
easier.   He said the Department  of Public Safety is  neutral on                                                               
this issue but said the amount of  time that a person can be gone                                                               
is not  defined and allows  people to  be a resident  for hunting                                                               
and fishing  purposes while being  in the state a  minimal amount                                                               
of time.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:16:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  commented that  from a field  perspective as                                                               
an  enforcement  officer  and the  conversation  on  the  initial                                                               
contact,  that  most  residents  apply   for  a  PFD  and  almost                                                               
everybody has  a smartphone.  He  said if they applied  for a PFD                                                               
then they could  show this information on a smartphone.   He said                                                               
it  would  be  one  more  tool enforcement  has,  and  any  legal                                                               
resident  should have  no problem  showing PFD  information.   He                                                               
said it seems like a "good tool in the box."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:17:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON commented  that he  supports the  bill but                                                               
the PFD  residency requirements  are for January  1 and  a person                                                               
could  come  into the  state  in  February  and not  qualify  for                                                               
residency  requirements for  more  than  a year.    He asked  for                                                               
clarification regarding licensure.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  clarified the PFD deadlines  and how it                                                               
related to hunting and fishing licensure.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON remarked  that there  were some  residency                                                               
cases that  were very expensive  to go through the  court process                                                               
and this could impact the fiscal note.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:19:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  said that  she  shares  the concerns  that                                                               
resources need  to be protected  but remarked that she  still has                                                               
reservations  around  the mechanics  of  the  bill itself.    She                                                               
pointed  out Section  2 of  the bill  that defines  residency and                                                               
stated that discussions with other  legislators were taking place                                                               
to define residency regarding the  elections.  She said she would                                                               
like to  continue to  work with the  bill sponsor  regarding this                                                               
topic.   She said that  questions regarding  residency definition                                                               
have been  commonplace and stated  that these  definitions should                                                               
be common law.  She proceeded  to talk about residency and intent                                                               
and their complications  with regards to court  systems and other                                                               
institutions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:21:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES  echoed  Representative Vance's  remarks  and  that                                                               
hunting and  fishing resources  are dear to  Alaskans.   She said                                                               
that she  was delighted to  see something that  could potentially                                                               
support enforcement efforts.   She stated that  she supported the                                                               
bill but  understood that other committees  could help strengthen                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:22:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES entertained a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:22:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  moved to  report HB  93, out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There  being no objection, HB 93 was  reported out of the                                                               
House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:23:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:23 p.m. to 11:25 p.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:25:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES discussed the upcoming committee schedule and its                                                                  
objective.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:26:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Fisheries meeting was adjourned at 11:26                                                                   
a.m.