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02/03/2011 05:00 PM House FISHERIES


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05:03:09 PM Overview(s): Department of Fish and Game (adf&g) - Division of Sport Fish
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Sport Fisheries Division
Presentation by Charles Swanton, Director
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                        February 3, 2011                                                                                        
                           5:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Steve Thompson, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Bob Miller                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Craig Johnson, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME (ADF&G) - DIVISION OF                                                                 
SPORT FISH                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES MR. SWANTON, Director                                                                                                   
Division of Sport Fish                                                                                                          
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the Division of                                                                  
Sport Fish, for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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5:02:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVE  THOMPSON  called the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries meeting to  order at 5:02 p.m.  Present  at the call to                                                               
order   were   Representatives   Thompson,   Austerman,   Herron,                                                               
Kawasaki, and Miller.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF FISH  AND GAME (ADF&G) - DIVISION OF                                                               
SPORT FISH                                                                                                                      
OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME (ADF&G) - DIVISION OF                                                             
                           SPORT FISH                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:03:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THOMPSON  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be an  overview from  the Division  of Sport  Fish of  the Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:03:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  SWANTON,  Director,  Division   of  Sport  Fish,  Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish and Game  (ADF&G), began the division overview                                                               
by  paraphrasing  from  the committee  handout  entitled  "Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish and Game  Division of Sport Fish FY12 Division                                                               
Overview,"   which   read   as  follows   [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  mission  of  the  Division of  Sport  Fish  is  to                                                                    
     protect and improve  the state's recreational fisheries                                                                    
     resources.    Services  provided are  founded  on  this                                                                    
     mission,  and addressed  in  the  following seven  core                                                                    
     services:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Fishery   Management:     The   division  ensures   the                                                                    
     sustained use of  Alaska's recreational fisheries while                                                                    
     optimizing social and economic benefits.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Fishery Research:  The  division promotes excellence in                                                                    
     fisheries research.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Fisheries  Enhancement:     The   division  diversifies                                                                    
     recreational  fishing  opportunities  via  supplemental                                                                    
     production of hatchery-reared fish.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Angler  Access:   The  division  protects and  improves                                                                    
     public    access,   motorized    and   otherwise,    to                                                                    
     recreational fisheries resources.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Information  and  Education  Services:    The  division                                                                    
     informs  and  educates  the public  about  recreational                                                                    
     fishing  with  an   emphasis  on  exceptional  customer                                                                    
     service.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Fish  Habitat:    The  division  conserves  habitat  to                                                                    
     sustain recreational fisheries resources.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Workforce Support:   The division  provides exceptional                                                                    
     support  to  our  workforce to  attain  the  division's                                                                    
     vision and goals.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The division  measures success  in meeting  its mission                                                                    
     by  assessing  the  outcome  of  "sustain  recreational                                                                    
     fishing  opportunities  while   optimizing  social  and                                                                    
     economic benefits" using the following targets:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Target  1:     Sell  450,000  sport   fishing  licenses                                                                    
     annually.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Target  2:    Maintain   2.5  million  angler  days  of                                                                    
     recreational fishing effort annually.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Target 3:   Maintain a positive trend  in sport fishing                                                                    
     trip-related expenditures.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Target  4:   Maintain at  least 75  percent of  anglers                                                                    
     satisfied with their sport fishing experience.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Challenges   that  currently   impact  the   division's                                                                    
     ability to achieve its mission include:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Maintaining   existing    hatchery   production   while                                                                    
     constructing new  hatchery facilities,  and identifying                                                                    
     and securing hatchery operational funds;                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sustaining   wild  fish   stocks  by   employing  stock                                                                    
     assessment   research   and  managing   sport   fishery                                                                    
     harvests according to  the Sustainable Salmon Fisheries                                                                    
     Management  Policy  (5  AAC 39.222;  Salmon  Escapement                                                                    
     Goal  Policy (5  AAC 39.223);  and the  Policy For  the                                                                    
     Management of  Sustainable Wild Trout Fisheries  (5 AAC                                                                    
     75.222);                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Continuing to  refine and improve accuracy  of Fish and                                                                    
     Game   and  Dingell-Johnson   fund  projections   while                                                                    
     balancing increased project and operational costs;                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Improving  resident angler  satisfaction, diversity  of                                                                    
     fishing  opportunities   and  modernize   harvest  data                                                                    
     collection methods;                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Ensuring  public  access   and  minimizing  impacts  to                                                                    
     recreational users as lands  are conveyed or restricted                                                                    
     by federal subsistence regulations; and                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Improving current  and/or developing new  approaches to                                                                    
     better  inform  and  educate  the  public  about  sport                                                                    
     fishing  opportunities  and regulations,  and  division                                                                    
     programs and activities related to sport fishing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The total  FY12 Governor's  Request for  the division's                                                                    
     RDU is  $48,389,500, representing a decrease  from FY11                                                                    
     Management Plan of ($858,500).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The division  has one component, Sport  Fisheries.  The                                                                    
     division employs 231 permanent  full time positions and                                                                    
     204 permanent part time positions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  division   maintains  a  headquarters   office  in                                                                    
     Juneau;  regional offices  in  Anchorage, Douglas,  and                                                                    
     Fairbanks;  and 22  management area  offices, including                                                                    
     Sitka,   Ketchikan,  Yakutat,   Haines,  Craig/Klawock,                                                                    
     Petersburg,    Palmer,    Soldotna,   Homer,    Kodiak,                                                                    
     Dillingham,  Cordova,  King   Salmon,  Seward,  Bethel,                                                                    
     Delta Junction, Tok, Nome, and Glennallen.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:07:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON  continued to  the  third  page  of the  handout  to                                                               
explain  the  pie chart  indicating  the  funding sources.    The                                                               
division, as a  results delivery unit (RDU), has  nine sources of                                                               
funding.   He pointed out  the two primarily funding  sources as:                                                               
40 percent  federal government  garnered from  the U.S.  Fish and                                                               
Wildlife Service fish  excise tax; and 28 percent  state fish and                                                               
game fund, generated  from license sales.  A  smattering of other                                                               
sources   includes   12   percent    from   the   general   fund.                                                               
Additionally, the  FY12 Capital Budget includes  a line dedicated                                                               
to  Sport  Fish  Recreational  Boating  Access,  for  roughly  $3                                                               
million; $2,250,000  federal receipts and $750,000  fish and game                                                               
funds.   He explained this is  necessary because, as part  of the                                                               
federal program  for the  pass through  funding, the  division is                                                               
mandated  to  spend 15  percent  of  federal receipts  on  boater                                                               
access projects such as boat  ramps, restrooms, parking lots, and                                                               
related services.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:09:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER  requested a definition  that distinguishes                                                               
the  Division   of  Sport  Fish   from  the   other  departmental                                                               
divisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON   responded  that  recreational  sport   fishing  is                                                               
separated from other  pursuits by the act  of being recreational.                                                               
It  could  be  for  consumptive   use  or  not,  but  essentially                                                               
encompasses the activity  pursued by the purchaser  of a license;                                                               
and for  which the  generated revenues are  used to  conserve and                                                               
manage the resource.  The  specific license is the distinguishing                                                               
factor; however,  youth under the age  of 16 and elders  over the                                                               
age of 60 do not require sport fishing licenses.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN offered that  there are some overlapping                                                               
areas such as  subsistence and personal use  fisheries that could                                                               
cause some  confusion.  He  opined that it may  be in the  eye of                                                               
the beholder  in some  situations, and  offered some  examples of                                                               
areas  that  he  believes  to be  negotiable.    Additionally,  a                                                               
charter  boat  operator considers  the  activity  to be  a  sport                                                               
however, he  argued, it  could be considered  to be  a commercial                                                               
business.   Further, he provided  a brief historical  overview of                                                               
the fifty years of evolution of the department since statehood.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THOMPSON  noted that  the  division  is charged  with  the                                                               
conservation  of fish  habitat, and  asked what  action is  taken                                                               
against invasive weeds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  responded that  invasive weed  situations are  a new                                                               
occurrence  in  the state.    The  divisions  of Sport  Fish  and                                                               
Habitat  have  involved staff  to  address  the concern,  and  he                                                               
offered to provide further information to the committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:19:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THOMPSON asked  about the  delay in  the development  of a                                                               
fish hatchery in the Fairbanks area.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  indicated that design  issues have been a  holdup on                                                               
the project.  It is being  worked through, and rainbow trout eggs                                                               
should be delivered  sometime in the coming spring.   The project                                                               
is one  year behind schedule.   To a follow up  question, he said                                                               
that the  design build agreement  calls for a replacement  of the                                                               
filtration system, which is not working to specifications.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:22:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER inquired what  species will be developed in                                                               
the  hatchery, once  it is  on-line, and  the destination  of the                                                               
stocks.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  indicated that the  primary species will  be rainbow                                                               
trout,  and in  the  future Arctic  char,  Arctic grayling,  lake                                                               
trout,  King salmon,  and  coho salmon.   The  fish  will all  be                                                               
released in fresh  water locations.  The variety  of species will                                                               
allow a  diversity of opportunities  for stock success  when they                                                               
are released.   Additionally, seasonal  fishing will  be enhanced                                                               
including ice  fishing; a  popular sport in  areas such  as Birch                                                               
Lake [approximately 65 miles southeast of Fairbanks].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THOMPSON asked  why King salmon were not  captured from the                                                               
Chena  River  and  reared  in  the  hatchery  for  re-release  to                                                               
supplement the runs  via the Chena, through the  Tanana, and into                                                               
the Yukon rivers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SWANTON  responded   that  the   facility  was   built  for                                                               
recreational angling  enhancement.   The department has  a policy                                                               
for  stocking of  hatchery reared  fish  "over the  top" of  wild                                                               
stocks.   He  explained  naturalized exploitation  rates and  the                                                               
effects  of   that  practice  on  wild   versus  enhanced  stock.                                                               
Management of  combined natural and enhanced  stocks is difficult                                                               
and  complex.   Additionally,  the  competition  of the  fish  to                                                               
survive in the wild is an issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  asked whether the division  assumes the                                                               
management  of  halibut that  are  inside  the three  mile  shore                                                               
limit, and pointed out that  the licensing and regulation is held                                                               
by the department.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON   answered  that  halibut  are   governed  under  an                                                               
international treaty, and bag limits  are set in concert with the                                                               
state board of fisheries.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  AUSTERMAN explained  his  understanding that  the                                                               
International Pacific  Halibut Commission  (IPHC) sets  the quota                                                               
for  the commercial  and sport  catch of  halibut in  the Pacific                                                               
coastal  region.    The  biomass   fluctuates  and  affects  both                                                               
fisheries  dramatically.   He reported  that  recently the  North                                                               
Pacific Council  took action to restrict  halibut charter fishing                                                               
to permitted captains  only.  He cautioned that  this may produce                                                               
a heated response from charter fishermen.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THOMPSON referred to the targets  listed on page one of the                                                               
handout, and  asked for a breakout  of Target 2, and  how many of                                                               
the  2.5  million  angler days  represent  resident  versus  non-                                                               
resident.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SWANTON  said  the  information  will  be  provided  to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THOMPSON,  referring  to  the same  page,  read  "[sustain                                                               
recreational fishing  opportunities while] optimizing  social and                                                               
economic  benefits"  and  asked  for  examples  of  the  economic                                                               
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON pointed out that the  data in use is from 2007, which                                                               
reported  the economic  activity generated  by the  sport fishing                                                               
industry to be  estimated at $1.4 billion statewide.   The figure                                                               
can be expected to fluctuate year  to year, as well as by region.                                                               
He opined that a decrease might  be anticipated due to the recent                                                               
halibut restrictions.   Fishermen specifically  targeting halibut                                                               
may choose to  cancel planned trips to Alaska and  all sectors of                                                               
the economy are affected; licensing,  housing, tax receipts, food                                                               
sales.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THOMPSON returned  to page 2 of the  handout addressing the                                                               
listed challenge of modernization  of the harvest data collection                                                               
methods,  and asked  what steps  the division  is taking  in this                                                               
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON  explained that  the log book  program for  fresh and                                                               
saltwater efforts is a primary example.   The log book pages have                                                               
been  kept  by  hand  in  the  past,  containing  data  that  was                                                               
considered questionable.   The division has begun  to implement a                                                               
log  sheet   that  can  be   scanned  and  which   provides  data                                                               
availability  within a  week of  receipt.   During  the last  ten                                                               
years,  anglers have  received a  46 page  survey, which  has now                                                               
been downsized to about half  the length.  Additionally, point of                                                               
sale  license information  is being  explored,  which would  also                                                               
allow personal use fishermen to record their data.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:42:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN  noted the number of  division employees                                                               
and  asked whether  the  numbers provided  reflect  FY11 or  FY12                                                               
statistics.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON answered that the  numbers would be the same, varying                                                               
by no more than one or two.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN raised an  issued from the Mat-Su valley                                                               
and the  impact that  the Northern  Pike have  had on  the silver                                                               
salmon  stocks.   He asked  if  the division  is addressing  this                                                               
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON explained  that pike in the Susitna  Valley have been                                                               
reported as  a problem,  in certain  drainages, and  the division                                                               
has  instituted sampling  techniques to  research the  situation;                                                               
eradication  will not  occur, but  reduction of  pike populations                                                               
may.   The division is going  at the problem whole  heartedly, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLER requested  information regarding  targeted                                                               
species, by region.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON will provide the specific information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:47:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THOMPSON asked  what the state is doing  to ensuring public                                                               
access for the  personal use fisheries in the  Copper River area,                                                               
and  whether  there is  a  pending  land  purchase, or  swap,  to                                                               
alleviate the conflict.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWANTON explained  that the area of Chitna  presents a unique                                                               
situation due to the land  ownership and the availability of safe                                                               
access sites.   He  stated that he  is not aware  of a  land swap                                                               
possibility, however, that would  improve access.  Boat launching                                                               
is  also  very  restrictive.     The  division  would  only  have                                                               
authority  to  expend  funds,  which  is  limited  regarding  the                                                               
personal use fishery.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THOMPSON noted  that dip  netting areas  on the  Kenai are                                                               
receiving additional  pressure due  to people traveling  from the                                                               
Chitna region.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN commented that  a historical view of the                                                               
fishery  developments  in  the  state would  be  helpful  to  the                                                               
committee, by  explaining the dynamics  of the  various fisheries                                                               
and the demands on the individual stocks.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:53:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THOMPSON  thanked the  presenter  and  announced the  next                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:53:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries  meeting was  adjourned at  5:54                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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