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02/11/2026 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:05:05 AM Start
09:06:02 AM HB263 || HB265
09:41:23 AM Adjourn
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+= HB 263 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET;AMEND;SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 265 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Committee Substitute
+ Overview: Veto of Repealed Appropriations by TELECONFERENCED
Legislative Legal Services
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 11, 2026                                                                                          
                         9:05 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:05:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson called the House Finance Committee                                                                           
meeting to order at 9:05 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative Elexie Moore                                                                                                     
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Alexander Schroeder, Staff, Representative Andy Josephson.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 263    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET;AMEND;SUPP                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB 263 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 265    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 265 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 263                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 265                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:06:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  reviewed the  items in  members' packets                                                                    
including  the new  committee substitute  (CS)  for HB  263,                                                                    
redline  comparison document  between the  governor's budget                                                                    
and  CS,  summary  of  changes,   CS  for  HB  265,  redline                                                                    
comparison document  for HB 265, agency  summary totals (all                                                                    
funds),  and  agency  summary totals  (UGF  only)  (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked for a motion on the first CS.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for  HB  263,   Work  Draft  34-GH2498\G  (Marx,                                                                    
2/6/26).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked his staff  to explain  the changes                                                                    
in the CS.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:07:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXANDER SCHROEDER,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  ANDY JOSEPHSON,                                                                    
reviewed  the  changes in  the  CS.  He read  from  prepared                                                                    
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Before   the   committee   is  a   proposed   committee                                                                    
     substitute for  HB 263: the Operating  bill, work draft                                                                    
     34-GH2498\G, also  called House Committee  Substitute 1                                                                    
     or  HCS1.  Also  included  in  members'  packets  is  a                                                                    
     redline comparison between  the Governor's December 11,                                                                    
     2025,  operating bill  and HCS1.  For purposes  of this                                                                    
     walk through today,  I will refer to the  page and line                                                                    
     numbers in the redline comparison, not the work draft.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I want to  begin by identifying three  broad changes to                                                                    
     the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  first broad  change is  to  address technical  and                                                                    
     conforming changes. If the committee  permits, I ask to                                                                    
     refrain  from  getting  into detail  about  what  those                                                                    
     technical and  conforming changes are. In  summary: the                                                                    
     administration  has   different  drafting  requirements                                                                    
     than  the legislature,  so we  translate the  operating                                                                    
     bill to meet Legislative Legal's requirements.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The second broad change is  that all supplemental items                                                                    
     have   been   removed.    There   are   currently   two                                                                    
     supplemental  bills,  HB  283  and HB  289,  under  the                                                                    
     committee's consideration.  The Co-Chair's  position is                                                                    
     that, at this time, those  bills and their items should                                                                    
     be considered  separately from the operating  bill. So,                                                                    
     fair  warning,  I  do  not plan  to  walk  through  the                                                                    
     supplemental items removed from the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  third broad  change is  reverting to  an "adjusted                                                                    
     base"  budget   in  accordance  with   the  Legislative                                                                    
     Finance Division's  definition (with one  exception, to                                                                    
     be  explained   in  a  moment).  The   "adjusted  base"                                                                    
     definition is  "The prior  year's budget  less one-time                                                                    
     appropriations plus current  statewide policy decisions                                                                    
     (such  as  salary   adjustments  and  formula  changes)                                                                    
    needed to maintain services at a status quo level."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Formula  items  funded  at a  partial  amount  (meaning                                                                    
     deviations  from  statutory  formulas in  the  previous                                                                    
     fiscal  year's  budget)  are carried  forward  in  this                                                                    
     committee  substitute. Those  items  will be  explained                                                                    
     when I get to the language section.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     It's   worth  noting   that  the   Legislative  Finance                                                                    
     Division does  not apply the  adjusted base  concept to                                                                    
     certain  aspects of  the bill  and uses  the Governor's                                                                    
     submission for those items. Examples include:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • Wordage, such as conditional language in the                                                                        
          number's sections.                                                                                                    
        • FY26 language sections with no fiscal impact                                                                        
          added or  removed by the Governor  in his proposed                                                                    
          budget, such  as the section  implementing Bonuses                                                                    
          for  State  Employees  authorized  by  Letters  of                                                                    
          Agreement.                                                                                                            
        • Miscalculations by the Governor in formula-driven                                                                   
          appropriations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     If an  item falls  outside the definition  of "adjusted                                                                    
     base," it  is unchanged from the  Governor's version in                                                                    
     this committee substitute.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     That   concludes   the   broad  changes   between   the                                                                    
     Governor's proposed  budget and  the work  draft before                                                                    
     you.  Ultimately, this  work  draft is  meant  to be  a                                                                    
     starting  point  while  we  work  through  the  Finance                                                                    
     subcommittee  process and  the House  Finance amendment                                                                    
     process.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  noted  that the  mental  health  budget                                                                    
would be taken  up after the operating  budget. He clarified                                                                    
that the mental health budget CS was version I.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  remarked  there were  many  numerical                                                                    
changes that were not listed  on the summary of changes. For                                                                    
example, he  pointed to page 6  of the CS and  remarked that                                                                    
the  Alaska Gasline  Development  Corporation (AGDC)  budget                                                                    
was  substantially less.  He asked  if it  was the  adjusted                                                                    
base change.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder replied affirmatively.  He elaborated that any                                                                    
of   the  numbers   section  changes   were  shown   in  the                                                                    
transaction comparison and were  not included in the summary                                                                    
of changes  because the difference reflected  the reverse of                                                                    
the  transaction  compare  between  adjusted  base  and  gov                                                                    
amend.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Schroeder  reviewed the  changes  in  the CS  with  the                                                                    
redline comparison document:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     In the number section, please  turn to Page 4, Lines 19                                                                    
     through  33.  We  have  flagged  it  in  the  committee                                                                    
     members'  redline  document.  Here, you  will  see  the                                                                    
     Department  of Agriculture  was  removed.  On Page  32,                                                                    
     Line 25  to Page 33,  Line 4 you'll  be able to  see it                                                                    
     was restored  as the Division of  Agriculture under the                                                                    
     Department of  Natural Resources. Technically,  this is                                                                    
     consistent with  LFD's definition of adjusted  base. It                                                                    
     is also consistent with the  Superior Court ruling that                                                                    
     "the Governor  transmit a  proposed executive  order to                                                                    
     the  Legislature  only  during regular  session."  This                                                                    
     meaning that  Executive Order 137 was  unlawful and the                                                                    
     creation of a Department of Agriculture void.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The second structure difference  in the numbers section                                                                    
     is  found on  Page 77,  Lines 1  through 19,  where you                                                                    
     will see the Alaska  Marine Highway System reflected as                                                                    
     Section 4 in numbers, which  is consistent with how the                                                                    
     legislature passed the FY26 budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The remaining  changes in the numbers  section are only                                                                    
     reflected as  differences in appropriation  totals. All                                                                    
     transactions  the Governor  proposed,  the ones  before                                                                    
     the Finance  subcommittees, were removed. You  can view                                                                    
     these   transactions  in   full   in  the   transaction                                                                    
     comparisons   between  the   adjusted   base  and   the                                                                    
     Governor's proposed  budget on the  Legislative Finance                                                                    
     Division website.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    That concludes the changes in the numbers section.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Moving on to the  language section, I mentioned earlier                                                                    
     one  exception  to  the  adjusted  base  made  in  this                                                                    
     committee  substitute. Please  turn to  Page 81.  It is                                                                    
     the  second  flag  in the  members'  redline  document.                                                                    
     Looking  at Section  11, subsection  (c), (specifically                                                                    
     Page  81,  Line 27  to  Page  82,  Line 1).  Here,  the                                                                    
     committee  substitute  modifies  the  earnings  reserve                                                                    
     account  deposit.  Instead  of splitting  the  transfer                                                                    
     from the  earnings reserve account between  the general                                                                    
     fund and the dividend  fund, the Co-Chair believes that                                                                    
     depositing all the  funds to the general  fund first is                                                                    
     a  better  starting  position  for  the  work  of  this                                                                    
     committee.  This structure  mirrors the  same structure                                                                    
     in  last  year's  Enrolled operating  bill,  and  every                                                                    
     operating bill  since FY19 when  the Percent  of Market                                                                    
     value draw began.                                                                                                          
     Yes,  it does  not  yet appropriate  a  portion of  the                                                                    
     general  fund  for  the payment  of  a  permanent  fund                                                                    
     dividend. That  appropriation will be revisited  in the                                                                    
     budget amendment  process in this committee  and on the                                                                    
     House Floor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:15:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder reviewed adjusted base changes beginning on                                                                       
page 82 of the redline document:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The remaining language section items  before us are all                                                                    
     adjusted base changes. Please turn  to page 82, Lines 5                                                                    
     through 8. Here  you see that it  removes the inflation                                                                    
     proofing  appropriation to  the Alaska  Permanent Fund.                                                                    
     The  next change  is on  Page 88,  Lines 6  through 14.                                                                    
     Here you  see it removes State's  Employment Assistance                                                                    
     and    Training    Program,    or    STEP,    estimated                                                                    
     appropriations   from    the   language    section.   A                                                                    
     corresponding   increase  maintains   funding  in   the                                                                    
     numbers  section  for  the   Department  of  Labor  and                                                                    
     Workforce  Development. LFD  notes  that this  language                                                                    
     was new  this fiscal  year. It is  conceptually similar                                                                    
     to  the  Alaska   Technical  and  Vocational  Education                                                                    
     Program,  or TVEP,  language in  Section  9, which  was                                                                    
     moved from numbers to language in FY24 and FY26.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The next  change is  on Page 89,  Line 15  through Line                                                                    
     18.  Here  you see  it  removes  Department of  Revenue                                                                    
     section   on  externally   managed  investment   profit                                                                    
     sharing  fees. The  department reports  that they  have                                                                    
     new  profit-sharing  agreements  with  public  entities                                                                    
     investment  managers. Only  if those  external managers                                                                    
     outperform market benchmarks would these fees be paid.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The next change is on Page  89 Line 19 through Page 90,                                                                    
     Line 1.  Here you  see it  removes language  moving the                                                                    
     Alaska Marine Highway System from  a calendar year to a                                                                    
     multiyear appropriation spanning  two fiscal years. The                                                                    
     change  was  requested  in  FY26   and  denied  by  the                                                                    
     legislature. It  was requested again in  the Governor's                                                                    
     FY26  supplemental.  Effectively,  it would  allow  the                                                                    
     department to  move any surplus  in the  current fiscal                                                                    
     year forward,  and future year funding  to fill current                                                                    
     year budget holes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder continued to the next change on page 94:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The next change  is on Page 94, Line 4  through 7. Here                                                                    
     you see  it removes  appropriation of  arbitrage rebate                                                                    
     related   to   investment   earnings  in   the   Alaska                                                                    
     International Airport  System reserve  fund. Investment                                                                    
     earnings   in  this   fund   have  exceeded   allowable                                                                    
     arbitrage yield, so this item  would allow the earnings                                                                    
     to maintain the bonds' tax-advantaged status.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The next subsection  is on Page 94, on  Lines 8 through                                                                    
     12.  Here  you  see  it removes  the  backstop  to  the                                                                    
     previous  section  if  the estimate  is  sufficient  to                                                                    
     cover arbitrage rebate.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 94,  Line 26 to Page  95, Line 1. Here  you see it                                                                    
     Reduces School  Bond Debt  reimbursement to  75 percent                                                                    
     of  statutory  requirement  (same as  FY26).  The  next                                                                    
     change is on  Page 96, Lines 5 through 6.  Here you see                                                                    
     it reduces  the appropriation  to Disaster  Relief fund                                                                    
     to $13,044,800  UGF (matching  FY26 enacted  policy, in                                                                    
     keeping  with   LFD's  definition  for   adjusted  base                                                                    
     language items)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Please note:  Lines 7  and 8 on  this page  removes the                                                                    
     $40 million supplemental  appropriation to the disaster                                                                    
     relief  fund   because  all  supplemental   items  were                                                                    
     removed from this committee substitute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Staying on the  same page, the next change  is Page 96,                                                                    
     Line 30  to Page 97,  Line 1.  Here you see  it reduces                                                                    
     the  Regional  Educational  Attendance Area  and  Small                                                                    
     Municipal  School   Fund  deposit  to  75   percent  of                                                                    
     statutory  requirement  (again matching  FY26  policy).                                                                    
     For context,  last year, the legislature  funded school                                                                    
     aid  for costs  of school  construction at  75 percent.                                                                    
     The  Governor  vetoed  the  REAA  deposit  down  to  75                                                                    
     percent to match the school bond debt reimbursement.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder continued to review adjusted base language                                                                        
section changes with prepared remarks:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The next  change is  on Page 98,  Lines 17  through 21.                                                                    
     Maintains  FY26  policy  for the  Community  Assistance                                                                    
     fund deposit  by adding $5,978,000  in UGF.  This would                                                                    
     result in a  $20 million disbursement in  FY27 (same as                                                                    
     FY26). The  next FY27 adjusted  base change is  on Page                                                                    
     101, Lines  6 through  13. Adds  $37,945,000 in  UGF to                                                                    
     meet  the  Alaska  Retirement  and  Management  Board's                                                                    
     actuarial   recommendations    for   State   Retirement                                                                    
     contributions. For  context, the Governor did  not fund                                                                    
     the  ARM   Board's  FY27  contribution   rate,  instead                                                                    
     choosing a  different rate which pays  less upfront but                                                                    
     more in  future years. And  the last change is  on Page                                                                    
     104,  Line  30  to  Page   105  Line  13.  Removes  the                                                                    
     constitutional   budget    reserve   draw    to   cover                                                                    
     appropriations made in the FY27 budget.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     That  concludes  the  adjusted  base  language  section                                                                    
     changes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Overall, the net reduction from  the Governor's bill to                                                                    
     HCS1 in non-duplicated fund  sources for FY27 operating                                                                    
     and statewide items is the following:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     $2,358,386,400 in Unrestricted General Fund                                                                                
     $11,170,600 in Designated General Fund                                                                                     
     $7,772,100 in Other State Funds                                                                                            
     $31,328,200 in Federal Receipts                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     If  you include  the appropriations  in the  Governor's                                                                    
     proposed  capital budget,  the surplus  of unrestricted                                                                    
     general  fund   in  the  operating  budget   is  $819.5                                                                    
     million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     That concludes  the differences between  the Governor's                                                                    
     December 11, 2025, operating bill,  and HB 263, version                                                                    
     G.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:22:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum referred to page  82, lines 5 through 8                                                                    
pertaining  to the  removal of  inflation proofing  from the                                                                    
budget and  page 89, line  19 through  page 90, line  1 that                                                                    
moved  the multiyear  appropriation  for  the Alaska  Marine                                                                    
Highway System  (AMHS) to the  numbers section of  the bill.                                                                    
He asked for an explanation of the rationale.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder responded that the  two items had been removed                                                                    
because   in  the   Legislative  Finance   Division's  (LFD)                                                                    
adjusted base definition the items  would revert back to the                                                                    
prior year's version.  For example, AMHS was  in the numbers                                                                    
section  the previous  year and  the legislature  had denied                                                                    
changing  it to  the language  section. The  current CS  put                                                                    
AMHS back into the  numbers section. Additionally, there was                                                                    
no   inflation  proofing   in  the   prior  year's   budget;                                                                    
therefore, it had  been removed from the CS.  He deferred to                                                                    
LFD if a more detailed explanation was needed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson clarified  that the CS was  designed as a                                                                    
starting point  with some consistent  basis. He  stated that                                                                    
it  was  not  what  the  budget would  look  like  when  the                                                                    
legislature adjourned  in May  due to  a variety  of reasons                                                                    
including the wishes of members of both bodies.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stressed that  the budget had gone from                                                                    
a budget deficit  to a budget surplus  because the Permanent                                                                    
Fund Dividend  (PFD) had  been deleted  from the  budget. He                                                                    
recognized the  language for the  PFD was included,  but the                                                                    
bill contained no fund source.  Additionally, he stated that                                                                    
the  bill  dramatically   undercharged  known  expenses  for                                                                    
disaster relief, specifically  pertaining to Typhoon Halong.                                                                    
He agreed it  was a starting point, but  he underscored that                                                                    
the surplus resulted from not including a PFD.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage  stated that the CS  reflected a procedural                                                                    
adjustment back  to the  FY 26  budget's starting  point the                                                                    
past  year. He  believed  it  was too  early  to talk  about                                                                    
whether there was a surplus or  deficit. He viewed the CS as                                                                    
an  early  starting  point that  procedurally  stripped  out                                                                    
changes  that occurred  in the  budget  passed the  previous                                                                    
year. He  believed disaster  funding was  a priority  of the                                                                    
legislature's, in order to address  costs in Western Alaska.                                                                    
He stressed that the expenses  were being incurred and would                                                                    
have to  be paid. He  thought the  funding to meet  the need                                                                    
would be  included in  the supplemental  budget in  the near                                                                    
future.  He   directed  his  comments  to   the  public  and                                                                    
explained that the CS reflected  a procedural step to unwind                                                                    
some  of the  changes  that occurred  through the  budgetary                                                                    
process and through some of  the vetoes over the interim. He                                                                    
stated that through the  subcommittee and amendment process,                                                                    
it would  start to become  clearer whether there would  be a                                                                    
surplus or  deficit and  what the  appropriation may  be for                                                                    
the   PFD,  disaster   funding,  retirement,   etcetera.  He                                                                    
remarked that  there were many policy  choices the committee                                                                    
and  body would  have to  work through.  He appreciated  Co-                                                                    
Chair Josephson  for getting the  budget to a  good starting                                                                    
point. He  added that the  starting point followed  years of                                                                    
precedent.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson highlighted  that  in about  an hour  he                                                                    
hoped the  House would adopt  the governor's  financing plan                                                                    
for disaster  relief on the  floor. He noted that  the other                                                                    
body  had passed  the  item  unanimously. Additionally,  the                                                                    
supplemental   budget  reflected   the   same  urgency.   He                                                                    
reiterated that the CS was a starting point.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked for verification  that the                                                                    
Constitutional  Budget   Reserve  (CBR)  section   had  been                                                                    
removed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder confirmed the CBR section had been removed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  thought it sounded like  d    vu                                                                    
from  the previous  year. He  believed it  had been  removed                                                                    
from the  budget the previous  year only  to have to  try to                                                                    
put it back in. He wondered what the purpose was.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  replied that it was  removed because the                                                                    
CS currently  reflected a surplus  and the language  did not                                                                    
have a purpose in a surplus budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:28:48 AM                                                                                                                    
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9:29:10 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson added  that  the adjusted  base did  not                                                                    
have  a CBR  vote  and the  goal  was to  stay  true to  the                                                                    
adjusted base.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  did not believe  the purpose of the  CS was                                                                    
to  indicate there  was a  surplus. He  noted that  everyone                                                                    
knew the  PFD was not  included in the CS.  He characterized                                                                    
the  PFD as  the biggest  elephant  in the  room that  would                                                                    
require an ongoing conversation.  He remarked that there had                                                                    
been  some  one-time  items  included   in  the  budget  the                                                                    
previous year.  He provided a  hypothetical example of  a $1                                                                    
billion increment for a road to  Nome that was meant to be a                                                                    
one-time item. He  stated that the committee  would not want                                                                    
to automatically  repeat the  item in the  FY 27  budget. He                                                                    
explained that  the one-time items  had been removed  to get                                                                    
to the  adjusted base.  He reiterated that  the PFD  was the                                                                    
elephant in the  room that the committee would  need to work                                                                    
through. Additionally, the  spring forecast was forthcoming,                                                                    
which  would provide  a projection  of oil  revenue for  the                                                                    
state. With  regard to disaster  relief, he did  not believe                                                                    
anyone was saying  it should not be funded.  He expected the                                                                    
legislature  would  be doing  something  along  the way.  He                                                                    
remarked that  it impacted his  district and  his neighbor's                                                                    
district  [Representative Jimmie]  and he  believed everyone                                                                    
was sensitive of the need to provide support.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moore  thought  there  were  serious  policy                                                                    
implications in  the CS.  She did not  think it  was normal.                                                                    
She thought the removal of the  CBR gave leverage to the PFD                                                                    
conversation later  on. She did  not think it  was something                                                                    
the committee should be entertaining.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  replied that  the recent  history showed                                                                    
that the removal of the PFD  at the current stage was fairly                                                                    
typical.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  reminded  committee members  the  CS  was                                                                    
returning  to   adjusted  base  in  order   to  make  policy                                                                    
decisions  at  the table.  He  stated  that it  reflected  a                                                                    
procedural step to  unwind choices that had  been made since                                                                    
the  last  budget  passed  in   order  to  make  new  policy                                                                    
decisions. He emphasized that the  move was not from a place                                                                    
of leverage. He  remarked that if it was a  policy choice he                                                                    
would likely not be supportive  of reducing funding for some                                                                    
of the  items being reduced in  the CS. For example,  he did                                                                    
not know that  he would choose to [reduce]  school bond debt                                                                    
reimbursement.  He  stated  that following  the  process  of                                                                    
prior legislatures to  get back to a place  of adjusted base                                                                    
allowed  the   committee  to  make  cleaner   decisions.  He                                                                    
remarked  that the  policy decisions  were still  before the                                                                    
committee.  He understood  it may  appear that  some of  the                                                                    
policy  decisions  were  being  made   in  the  CS,  but  he                                                                    
reiterated that it was a  procedural step to unwind what had                                                                    
been done  since the last budget  passed in order to  have a                                                                    
clean  place to  move  forward from.  He  looked forward  to                                                                    
making  the policy  choices after  thorough discussion  with                                                                    
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  OBJECTED.  He   stated  that  the  CS                                                                    
included fundamental structure changes  that did not reflect                                                                    
merely returning  to the  adjusted base.  He pointed  to the                                                                    
deposit of  the entire withdraw  from the Permanent  Fund to                                                                    
the General Fund.  He stated it was not the  norm. He stated                                                                    
that  the  policy decision  could  have  been to  leave  the                                                                    
dividend split for the percent  of market value (POMV) draw.                                                                    
He stressed that  the CS reflected an  intentional choice to                                                                    
put  all of  the funds  typically appropriated  for the  PFD                                                                    
into  the   General  Fund   for  future   appropriation.  He                                                                    
highlighted  that   there  was  no  change   in  the  [K-12]                                                                    
foundation  formula and  if the  CS was  based on  the prior                                                                    
year's  adjusted base,  the  foundation  formula would  have                                                                    
been adjusted as well.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  Mr. Schroeder  for  verification                                                                    
that the  other body put the  entirety of the draw  into the                                                                    
General Fund in its draft budget in April.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Schroeder  confirmed that  the  Senate  version of  the                                                                    
budget  appropriated  the  Earnings  Reserve  Account  (ERA)                                                                    
deposit to the  General Fund, which was  the version adopted                                                                    
in the final budget signed by the governor.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  stated   his   understanding  it   was                                                                    
consistent with an adjusted base budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schroeder replied affirmatively.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:36:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  pointed out that  in three out of  the four                                                                    
years between  2020 and 2024  the PFD had been  stripped out                                                                    
of  the  budget  at  the  start  of  the  process  with  the                                                                    
knowledge  that   the  legislature  could  not   come  to  a                                                                    
consensus  on what  the  number  would be  at  the start  of                                                                    
session and that ongoing discussions were necessary.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:36:36 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:37:26 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp MAINTAINED the OBJECTION.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Galvin,    Hannan,   Jimmie,    Foster,   Schrage,                                                                    
Josephson                                                                                                                       
OPPOSED: Tomaszewski, Allard, Moore, Stapp, Bynum                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6/5).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  Work Draft  34-GH2498\G                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  263  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:38:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson requested a motion on HB 265.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for  HB  265,   Work  Draft  34-GH2502\I  (Marx,                                                                    
2/6/26).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked his staff  to explain  the changes                                                                    
in the CS for HB 265.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALEXANDER SCHROEDER,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  ANDY JOSEPHSON,                                                                    
reviewed the changes in the CS with prepared remarks:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Before   the  committee   is  the   proposed  committee                                                                    
     substitute  for HB  265: the  mental health  bill, work                                                                    
     draft 34-GH2502\I.  A redline comparing  the Governor's                                                                    
     December  11,  2025, mental  health  bill  and HB  265,                                                                    
     version I  is included in members'  packets. However, I                                                                    
     will not be referencing it for this walk-through.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  changes in  this committee  substitute parity  the                                                                    
     operating  bill committee  substitute. This  work draft                                                                    
     contains technical and conforming  changes, and it also                                                                    
     reverts to  an adjusted base budget  in accordance with                                                                    
     Legislative Finance Division's definition.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Please  note that  the  Governor's  December 11  mental                                                                    
     health  bill  contained  mental health  capital  items.                                                                    
     This committee substitute does not change the                                                                              
     Governor's request, preserving those items and their                                                                       
     funding per the December 11 mental health bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     That concludes the differences between the Governor's                                                                      
     December 11, 2025, mental health bill, and HB 265,                                                                         
     version I.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:40:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Work Draft 34-GH2502\I                                                                        
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 265 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the schedule for the afternoon                                                                      
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:41:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:41 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 263 CS WorkDraft v. G 021126 .pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 v. G HCS1 Agency Summary - All Funds 021126.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 v. G Gov to HCS1 - Doc Compare 021126.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 v. G HCS1 Agency Summary - UGF Only 021126.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 v. G HCS1 Summary of Changes.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 265 v. I GovMH to HCS1MH - Doc Compare 021126.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 265
HB 265 v. I CS WorkDraft 021126.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 265
Legal Opinion Leg Legal Vetos CCS HB 53 062425.pdf HFIN 2/11/2026 9:00:00 AM
HB 53