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01/22/2026 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:36 PM Presentation: Department of Revenue Fall Forecast
02:38:35 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Revenue Forecast by Dan Stickel TELECONFERENCED
Chief Economist, Tax Division, Department of
of Revenue
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 22, 2026                                                                                           
                         1:33 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson called the House Finance Committee                                                                           
meeting to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Elexie Moore                                                                                                     
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Janelle  Earls,   Acting  Commissioner   and  Administrative                                                                    
Services  Director,  Department  of  Revenue;  Dan  Stickel,                                                                    
Chief  Economist,  Economic  Research Group,  Tax  Division,                                                                    
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FALL FORECAST                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FALL FORECAST                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JANELLE  EARLS,   ACTING  COMMISSIONER   and  ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES   DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT   OF  REVENUE,   introduced                                                                    
herself and turned the presentation over to her colleague.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL,  CHIEF ECONOMIST, ECONOMIC RESEARCH  GROUP, TAX                                                                    
DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,  provided  a  PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled "Fall  2025 Forecast Presentation: House                                                                    
Finance Committee,"  dated January 22, 2026  (copy on file).                                                                    
He reviewed an overview of  the presentation on slide 2. The                                                                    
presentation included  a background on the  revenue forecast                                                                    
key assumptions,  the revenue forecast beginning  with total                                                                    
state  revenue and  drilling  down  into unrestricted  state                                                                    
revenue,  and  a  detailed  walkthrough  of  the  division's                                                                    
assumption  around  the oil  and  gas  revenue forecast.  He                                                                    
moved to  slide 4 showing  a background of the  fall revenue                                                                    
forecast. The revenue forecast was  released on December 11,                                                                    
2025, and the Department  of Revenue's (DOR) Revenue Sources                                                                    
Book was  released on December  18, 2025. He  explained that                                                                    
it  was  the  official   forecast  used  in  developing  the                                                                    
governor's budget proposal. The  department would release an                                                                    
updated revenue  forecast in the  spring. He noted  that the                                                                    
forecast and  historical forecast information  was available                                                                    
on  the  department's  website.  He  advanced  to  the  fall                                                                    
forecast assumptions on slide 5:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        Fall Forecast Assumptions                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • The economic impacts of financial and geopolitical                                                                     
        events are  uncertain;  Department  of  Revenue  has                                                                    
        developed a  plausible  scenario  to forecast  these                                                                    
        impacts                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        Key Assumptions:                                                                                                        
     • Investments: Stable growth in investment markets,                                                                      
        7.60% for  remainder of  FY 2026  for the  Permanent                                                                    
        Fund. We included actual revenue through  the end of                                                                    
        October and  then applied  that  assumption for  the                                                                    
        remainder of the fiscal  year. The long  term return                                                                    
        assumption was 7.30% for FY 2027+                                                                                       
     • Federal: The forecast incorporates known funding as                                                                    
        of December 1, 2025.  FY 2028+ assumed to  grow with                                                                    
        inflation                                                                                                               
     • Petroleum: Alaska North Slope oil price of $65.48                                                                      
        per barrel for FY 2026 and $62.00  per barrel for FY                                                                    
        2027                                                                                                                    
     • Non-Petroleum: Stable economic conditions. 1.7                                                                         
        million cruise passengers, five-year recovery for                                                                       
        fisheries taxes, minerals prices based on futures                                                                       
        markets                                                                                                                 
     • The revenue forecast is inherently uncertain and                                                                       
        represents one scenario among a range of many                                                                           
        possible scenarios                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel elaborated  on  the slide.  He  noted that  the                                                                    
forecast  represented   one  scenario  within  a   range  of                                                                    
potential outcomes. He explained  that some of the variables                                                                    
may  come  in higher  or  lower  than expected.  Under  non-                                                                    
petroleum  revenue he  noted that  the corporate  income tax                                                                    
forecast incorporated  a slowdown for  the end of FY  25 and                                                                    
the beginning of FY 26  with steady growth thereafter. There                                                                    
was   no  recession   included  in   the  forecast.   Cruise                                                                    
passengers were  projected to remain near  the record levels                                                                    
seen  in the  past  couple of  years.  The preliminary  2025                                                                    
fishing industry data showed slight  recovery and an upturn.                                                                    
He  referenced news  about  record  gold prices  approaching                                                                    
$5,000  and   record  silver  prices.  The   mining  revenue                                                                    
forecast  was based  on the  futures market  outlook at  the                                                                    
beginning of December.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:39:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan noted that  the revenue projection for                                                                    
FY 26  was based on an  oil price of $65.48.  She asked what                                                                    
the average had been for the past six months.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel replied  that he  did  not have  the number  on                                                                    
hand. He  reported that  oil prices in  FY 26  were tracking                                                                    
very close to the forecast.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel   turned   to   slide   6   titled   "Relative                                                                    
Contributions to  Total State Revenue:  FY 2025."  The slide                                                                    
showed an illustration  highlighting the relative importance                                                                    
of  different sources  of total  state revenue.  He remarked                                                                    
that Alaska  had no  statewide sales or  income tax  and the                                                                    
state's  revenue was  a three-legged  stool with  93 percent                                                                    
coming  from  petroleum,  federal  sources,  and  investment                                                                    
earnings.   He  noted   that  all   other  revenue   sources                                                                    
collectively  accounted  for a  little  over  7 percent.  He                                                                    
moved  to slide  7  showing unrestricted  state revenue.  He                                                                    
explained  that  unrestricted   revenue  was  available  for                                                                    
general appropriation  by the legislature and  typically the                                                                    
source  of  most budget  discussions.  He  detailed that  90                                                                    
percent  of  the  state's  unrestricted  revenue  came  from                                                                    
investment earnings  and petroleum, while all  other sources                                                                    
accounted for about 10 percent.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  asked  how much  of  the  investment                                                                    
earnings went  towards paying  board members  and investment                                                                    
managers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  answered that  he  would  follow up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  asked  for   the  information  as  a                                                                    
percentage.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:42:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel addressed the total  revenue forecast on slide 9                                                                    
including historical  data from FY  25 and forecasts  for FY                                                                    
26 and  FY 27.  He explained that  revenues were  broken out                                                                    
into  four categories  of restriction.  Unrestricted general                                                                    
funds  (UGF) could  be appropriated  by the  legislature for                                                                    
any  purpose and  were typically  the focus  of most  budget                                                                    
discussions.   Designated    general   funds    (DGF)   were                                                                    
technically   available    for   appropriation    but   were                                                                    
customarily used  for a specific  purpose. For  example, the                                                                    
state's  vehicle rental  tax was  deposited  into a  special                                                                    
account  to fund  tourism development  and marketing.  Other                                                                    
restricted funds were  truly restricted in terms  of use and                                                                    
were not  available for general appropriation.  For example,                                                                    
under federal law, all of the  revenue the state took in for                                                                    
the commercial passenger  vessel tax on cruise  ships had to                                                                    
be used  to support  the cruise  ship industry  for specific                                                                    
purposes. All federal  revenue coming into the  state had to                                                                    
be used  for specific  purposes and  was considered  its own                                                                    
category  of  restricted receipts.  The  total  FY 25  state                                                                    
revenue was  $19.2 billion.  The department  was forecasting                                                                    
$17.8 billion in revenue for FY  26 and $15.3 billion for FY                                                                    
27.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  observed  there  was  a  substantial                                                                    
difference in the  federal revenue from FY 26 to  FY 27. She                                                                    
assumed the  reduction pertained to healthcare  and possibly                                                                    
Department  of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities.  She                                                                    
asked  if the  information  would be  covered  later in  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  replied that the  majority of  the presentation                                                                    
focused on unrestricted revenues.  He deferred to the Office                                                                    
of Management and  Budget (OMB) for detail.  He relayed that                                                                    
some of the decline from FY  25 through FY 27 was related to                                                                    
how  multiyear  capital   projects  were  appropriated  for.                                                                    
Additionally, there was some  one-time funding for broadband                                                                    
infrastructure investments in the past.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  remarked on a substantial  $2 billion                                                                    
decline  in investment  revenue under  the other  restricted                                                                    
revenue category  over two fiscal  years. She  observed that                                                                    
other investments  were expected to  grow. She asked  for an                                                                    
explanation of the decline.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  answered  that the  difference  in  the  other                                                                    
restricted  investment revenue  pertained  to how  Permanent                                                                    
Fund earnings  were reflected in  the Revenue  Sources Book.                                                                    
The percent  of market  value (POMV) draw  of 5  percent was                                                                    
shown as unrestricted investment  revenue. He explained that                                                                    
any  earnings of  the fund  above  the 5  percent draw  were                                                                    
shown as other unrestricted  investment revenue. He detailed                                                                    
that FY  25 was a strong  year for market returns  and FY 26                                                                    
had been strong year to date.  The decline in the rest of FY                                                                    
26 and FY  27 represented a return to a  more normal rate of                                                                    
return with a  projected 7.6 percent return  and 7.3 percent                                                                    
return respectively.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  asked   for   verification  that   the                                                                    
projection did not necessarily reflect  fewer dollars in the                                                                    
state  economy or  less money  available to  spend on  FY 27                                                                    
budgeting because the draw did not exceed 5 percent.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  moved to slide 10  titled "Unrestricted Revenue                                                                    
Forecast:  FY  2025 and  Changes  to  Two-Year Outlook."  He                                                                    
noted the remainder  of the presentation would  focus on the                                                                    
unrestricted revenue  forecast because the  specific funding                                                                    
category had the greatest  flexibility and discretion around                                                                    
how the monies  were used. The slide  summarized key changes                                                                    
from the  March 2025 spring  forecast and the  December 2025                                                                    
fall  forecast.  The oil  price  forecast  was decreased  by                                                                    
$2.52 per  barrel for FY 26  and by $5.00 per  barrel for FY                                                                    
27,  which  reflected  the   most  recent  information  from                                                                    
futures markets.  The oil  production forecast  decreased by                                                                    
7,000  barrels per  day for  FY 26  and increased  by 28,000                                                                    
barrels  per day  for FY  27. The  bottom line  unrestricted                                                                    
revenue outlook was decreased by  $181 million for FY 26 and                                                                    
$119 million for FY 27. The  lower oil price outlook was the                                                                    
primary reason for the decreases.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  moved to slide 11  titled "Unrestricted Revenue                                                                    
Forecast:  FY 2025  to  FY 2027  Totals."  He detailed  that                                                                    
investment revenue  was the largest  source of  UGF revenue,                                                                    
driven by  the POMV  transfer from  the Permanent  Fund that                                                                    
began in FY 19. Investments  generated about $3.8 billion in                                                                    
UGF revenue in FY 25. The  forecast for UGF revenue was $3.9                                                                    
billion  in FY  26  and  $4.1 billion  in  FY 27.  Petroleum                                                                    
revenue generated $1.9  billion of UGF revenue in  FY 25 and                                                                    
was forecasted  at $1.4  billion in  FY 26  and FY  27. Non-                                                                    
petroleum revenues  generated slightly over $600  million of                                                                    
UGF revenue in  FY 25 and was forecasted to  be $624 million                                                                    
in FY  26 and $694 million  in FY 27. The  total UGF revenue                                                                    
in FY 25 was $6.3 billion,  which was expected to decline to                                                                    
$5.9 billion in  FY 26 and recover slightly  to $6.2 billion                                                                    
in FY 27.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:50:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   addressed  unrestricted   investment  revenue                                                                    
totals from FY  25 to FY 27 on slide  12. The Permanent Fund                                                                    
transfer was  projected to generate about  two-thirds of the                                                                    
state's  unrestricted revenue  annually  over  the next  ten                                                                    
years. The  transfer contributed $3.7  billion in FY  25 and                                                                    
was forecast at  $3.8 billion in FY 26 and  $4 billion in FY                                                                    
27.  Additionally, there  was  $136 million  in  FY 25  that                                                                    
primarily represented  earnings on  the cash balance  of the                                                                    
state General Fund. The number  was projected to be slightly                                                                    
lower  in FY  26 and  FY 27  based on  the lower  prevailing                                                                    
interest rate environment for cash and equivalents.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   moved  to   slide  13   titled:  Unrestricted                                                                    
Investment Revenue: Percent of  Market Value (POMV) Transfer                                                                    
Forecast."  The forecast  was over  $3.8  billion per  year,                                                                    
which steadily increased  to $5.3 billion by the  end of the                                                                    
ten-year  forecast.   He  relayed  that  in   real  terms  -                                                                    
inflation adjusted - the transfer  remained fairly steady at                                                                    
around  $3.8  billion.  The  forecast was  based  on  a  7.3                                                                    
percent long-term  return assumption for the  Permanent Fund                                                                    
and a 5  percent POMV calculation. Given that  the 5 percent                                                                    
calculation  was based  on  the average  fund  value of  the                                                                    
first  five of  the  past  six years,  the  approach to  the                                                                    
calculation provided  a relatively stable source  of revenue                                                                    
and removed much of the year-to-year volatility.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:52:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  reviewed four  primary sources  of unrestricted                                                                    
petroleum revenue for FY 25 to  FY 27 on slide 14. The first                                                                    
was the  oil and gas  production tax (the  state's severance                                                                    
tax on  petroleum). For the  North Slope, it consisted  of a                                                                    
net profits tax with a  gross minimum tax floor. He detailed                                                                    
that at the current prevailing  price and cost levels in the                                                                    
industry,  the  department  expected  total  production  tax                                                                    
revenue to  be at or below  the minimum tax floor  for every                                                                    
year in the  10-year forecast. In FY 25,  the production tax                                                                    
brought in  $635 million with  a projected decrease  to $316                                                                    
million  in FY  26 and  $286 million  in FY  27. The  second                                                                    
source  of unrestricted  petroleum revenue  was a  petroleum                                                                    
corporate  income  tax  levied  on qualifying  oil  and  gas                                                                    
corporations doing  business in  Alaska. The tax  brought in                                                                    
$133 million  in FY 25  and was  projected to bring  in $140                                                                    
million in FY 26 and $175 million in FY 27.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel stated  that the  third unrestricted  petroleum                                                                    
revenue source was  a 20 mills or 2 percent  property tax on                                                                    
all oil  and gas property  in the  state. He noted  that any                                                                    
municipal  taxes  were  allowed  as  a  credit  against  the                                                                    
property tax so  that the total property tax on  oil and gas                                                                    
property  was  20  mills.  The  state's  share  of  the  tax                                                                    
amounted  to $134  million  in  FY 25  and  was forecast  at                                                                    
slightly over $140 million per year  in FY 26 and FY 27. The                                                                    
fourth and largest source  of unrestricted petroleum revenue                                                                    
was royalties,  which brought in  about $1 billion in  FY 25                                                                    
and was  forecasted to bring in  over $800 million in  FY 26                                                                    
and FY 27. He highlighted  that the royalties numbers on the                                                                    
slide were limited to the  UGF portion. He detailed that the                                                                    
Permanent Fund  received between  25 and  50 percent  of all                                                                    
royalty revenue  and the Public  School Trust  Fund received                                                                    
an additional 0.5 percent of  the revenue. He noted that the                                                                    
third  section   of  the  presentation  would   address  the                                                                    
detailed   assumptions  used   in   the  petroleum   revenue                                                                    
forecast.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson referenced  the mineral  bonuses, rents,                                                                    
and interest line  under royalties on slide 14.  He asked if                                                                    
it did not include mineral  royalties or taxes. He typically                                                                    
saw  a number  closer to  $100  million on  total take  from                                                                    
minerals for the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  clarified that the mineral  bonuses, rents, and                                                                    
interest line  was only related to  oil and gas and  did not                                                                    
include any mining royalty.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked what  portion of the  $600 million                                                                    
that  was  non-petroleum  related  pertained  to  hard  rock                                                                    
minerals.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  answered   it  was   a  significant   number,                                                                    
especially  forward  looking.  The total  contribution  from                                                                    
mining tax, corporate tax, and  royalties was expected to be                                                                    
over $100  million per year  in coming years. He  noted that                                                                    
the specific forecast  was created prior to  record gold and                                                                    
silver prices.  He stated  it was an  area for  optimism. He                                                                    
offered to follow up with precise numbers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson   declined  the  offer   for  additional                                                                    
information  and understood  the number  was somewhere  over                                                                    
$100 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  reviewed unrestricted non-petroleum  revenue on                                                                    
slide  15. The  largest component  of non-petroleum  revenue                                                                    
was various taxes, with the  majority comprised of corporate                                                                    
income tax. In FY 25, the  tax generated $229 million and it                                                                    
was projected  to bring in  $215 million  in FY 26  and $250                                                                    
million in FY  27. The department was projecting a  bit of a                                                                    
slowdown in  the tax generated  by some of the  sectors such                                                                    
as retail,  wholesale, and transportation, but  it was being                                                                    
offset by  increased revenue expectations for  other sectors                                                                    
such  as  mining and  tourism.  He  continued reviewing  the                                                                    
slide and noted  that the mining license tax  brought in $43                                                                    
million  in FY  25 and  was  expected to  increase to  $62.4                                                                    
million  in FY  27.  In total,  taxes  generated about  $468                                                                    
million of unrestricted revenue in  FY 25 and were projected                                                                    
to generate  about $511 million  in FY 27. The  remainder of                                                                    
the unrestricted  non-petroleum revenues  were a  variety of                                                                    
different  revenue sources  including licenses  and permits,                                                                    
charges  for services,  non-petroleum  rents and  royalties,                                                                    
and miscellaneous revenue (e.g.,  dividends from state owned                                                                    
corporations).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  highlighted  a  change  made  in  the  revenue                                                                    
forecast  related to  program  receipts.  He explained  that                                                                    
over  the  interim,  the  department   worked  with  OMB  to                                                                    
identify  any program  receipts  above and  beyond what  was                                                                    
being used  by the agency  generating the receipts  or being                                                                    
carried  forward. Beginning  with the  current fall  revenue                                                                    
forecast,  any  surplus  program   receipts  that  were  not                                                                    
carried forward were shown as  UGF revenue. Previously, some                                                                    
were UGF revenue and some  were DGF revenue. In total, about                                                                    
$60 million  in program receipts  fell into the  category of                                                                    
being  above and  beyond what  was generated  and used  by a                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:59:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked   about  the  large  passenger                                                                    
vessel gambling  tax. She was  surprised it was  not growing                                                                    
more  because of  the large  uptick  and continued  expected                                                                    
growth in  cruise ship passengers.  She did not  believe the                                                                    
number  reflected the  500,000-passenger  increase seen  the                                                                    
past  summer. She  observed that  the tax  was projected  to                                                                    
flatten out for two years.  She asked if passengers were not                                                                    
gambling or  if the number  of individuals gambling  was not                                                                    
known ahead of time.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   replied  that  the  large   passenger  vessel                                                                    
gambling tax was  a tax on the income earned  by casinos and                                                                    
gambling   operations.   The   revenue  had   been   growing                                                                    
substantially  in  recent  years.   The  tax  generated  $18                                                                    
million in  FY 23  and $27  million in  FY 24.  He explained                                                                    
that  the  revenue  source  had  consistently  exceeded  the                                                                    
division's  expectations.  The  forecast  assumed  that  the                                                                    
number  would  level  off  and the  state  would  receive  a                                                                    
relatively  stable contribution  from  the specific  revenue                                                                    
source per passenger.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan surmised that the  tax did not grow in                                                                    
relation to the number of  passengers. She assumed fewer old                                                                    
people were coming.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel clarified  that the revenue source  had grown as                                                                    
gambling  had   expanded  and   the  number   of  passengers                                                                    
increased.  He  referenced  Appendix   A-2  of  the  Revenue                                                                    
Sources Book and  highlighted that in the  past the specific                                                                    
revenue  source  had generated  $7  million  to $10  million                                                                    
annually. He reported  that the revenue had  taken off after                                                                    
the COVID-19 pandemic. Instead of  bringing in $7 million to                                                                    
$10  million annually,  the tax  was generating  $30 million                                                                    
per year  presently. He explained  the forecast was  a naïve                                                                    
forecast  that assumed  revenue would  remain at  the higher                                                                    
levels with no increase or decrease anticipated.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  looked  at NPR-A  [Natural  Petroleum                                                                    
Reserve-Alaska] royalties,  rents, and  bonuses unrestricted                                                                    
petroleum revenue  of $9.6 million  [in FY 27] on  slide 14.                                                                    
He thought the money was  likely restricted. He asked for an                                                                    
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  responded that  a change had  been made  to how                                                                    
NPR-A revenues  were classified in  the fall  2025 forecast.                                                                    
Prior to  the fall  forecast, the  entirety of  the payments                                                                    
from  NPR-A (the  federal government  shared  50 percent  of                                                                    
bonuses,  rents, and  interest  from NPR-A  with the  state)                                                                    
were  treated  as  a  passthrough  to  communities  and  the                                                                    
revenue had  been shown as  restricted. He explained  it had                                                                    
been determined  that it did not  accurately capture federal                                                                    
law or state statute. He  elaborated that the passage of the                                                                    
[federal]  One Big  Beautiful Bill  Act  (OB3) also  brought                                                                    
changes  to  how NPR-A  revenues  would  be treated  in  the                                                                    
future. In  recognition of  the One  Big Beautiful  Bill Act                                                                    
and the  reality the monies  would be used in  multiple ways                                                                    
under the  statute, beginning in  FY 27, the  forecast would                                                                    
show  the   NPR-A  revenues  divided   between  unrestricted                                                                    
revenue with 25 percent going  to the Permanent Fund and 0.5                                                                    
percent going to the Public School Trust Fund.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  referenced state statute  directed how                                                                    
the  money was  to be  apportioned through  a waterfall.  He                                                                    
asked  if  the  $9.6  million would  utilize  the  formulaic                                                                    
approach in state statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel turned  to slide 14 and explained  that the $9.6                                                                    
million  of NPR-A  royalties, bonuses,  and rents  in FY  27                                                                    
represented   the  expected   unrestricted  share   of  74.5                                                                    
percent.  He elaborated  that it  was the  anticipated total                                                                    
transfer to the  state after backing out  the Permanent Fund                                                                    
and Public School Trust Fund share.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  did not understand how  the number had                                                                    
been  reached. He  asked for  verification  that "those  two                                                                    
things" did not  go into effect until the  project spend was                                                                    
exhausted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  replied that  in terms  of revenue  received by                                                                    
the state,  there was an  annual rental payment made  to the                                                                    
federal  government  for  any  bonuses  from  ongoing  lease                                                                    
sales.  He explained  that NPR-A  royalties were  being paid                                                                    
for current production  at the Moose's Tooth Unit  and for a                                                                    
portion  of  the Colville  River  Unit.  There was  a  small                                                                    
stream of  revenue to the  NPR-A currently, which  was being                                                                    
shared   50   percent   with    the   state.   He   believed                                                                    
Representative  Stapp  may  be  referring to  a  very  large                                                                    
increase in expected revenue several  years in the future as                                                                    
a  result of  the Willow  field coming  online. The  revenue                                                                    
stream would  go from being  tens of millions of  dollars to                                                                    
hundreds of millions of dollars once Willow came online.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  if the  state was  taking money                                                                    
from communities  that would otherwise go  to communities if                                                                    
the revenue was not used as unrestricted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  deferred   any  further   questions  to   the                                                                    
Department of Law  (DOL), which was doing  evaluation on the                                                                    
NPR-A revenue topic.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson remarked that  there were smart people on                                                                    
both sides  of the  debate, and he  surmised there  would be                                                                    
litigation  on the  issue if  it had  not commenced.  He was                                                                    
reading in the  press that local governments  were not going                                                                    
to be  silent on the  topic. He asked for  verification that                                                                    
communities  did not  read  HR  1 in  the  same  way as  the                                                                    
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded  that he could speak  about the change                                                                    
in the  revenue forecast. He deferred  any questions related                                                                    
to litigation to DOL.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  looked at the  program receipts  line on                                                                    
slide 15. He  asked if it suggested the  state was providing                                                                    
a service  for a fee.  He asked if  it was the  reason there                                                                    
were receipts  relating to  other items  shown on  the slide                                                                    
such as the passenger vessel gambling tax and fisheries.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  answered that  program  receipts  was a  large                                                                    
category in the  state budget. He noted that it  was not his                                                                    
area  of expertise,  although he  had learned  a significant                                                                    
amount  about  it in  the  past  summer. He  explained  that                                                                    
program receipts  were comprised  of receipts returned  to a                                                                    
specific  program  to  fund  the  program's  operation.  For                                                                    
example, the Division of Motor  Vehicles (DMV), housed under                                                                    
the Department of Administration  (DOA), collected about $70                                                                    
million   annually  in   motor   vehicle  registration   and                                                                    
licensing  fees.   The  cost  of   operating  the   DMV  was                                                                    
considered  program receipts;  therefore, the  revenues were                                                                    
returned DOA to provide  the service. However, DOA collected                                                                    
more revenue than  it took to operate DMV.  He detailed that                                                                    
in FY 25 the amount required  to operate DMV was $21 million                                                                    
and $32  million in additional surplus  revenue was returned                                                                    
to the General Fund.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:08:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  for verification  that pertaining                                                                    
to  the  large  passenger  vessel gambling  tax,  there  was                                                                    
someone  on the  vessel monitoring  the ship's  location. He                                                                    
thought that once a ship left  a certain mile marker the tax                                                                    
was engaged.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  answered  that cruise  companies  tracked  the                                                                    
amount  of time  their  ships were  located  in state  water                                                                    
versus  non-state   water,  which  was  factored   into  the                                                                    
calculation. He noted  that there was not a  DOR official on                                                                    
the boat monitoring the issue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:09:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   relayed  that  the   final  portion   of  the                                                                    
presentation looked  at some of the  detailed assumptions of                                                                    
the  petroleum  revenue  forecast.  He turned  to  slide  17                                                                    
titled  "Petroleum   Detail:  Changes  to   Long-Term  Price                                                                    
Forecast."  The  slide  showed   the  fall  2025  oil  price                                                                    
forecast for Alaska North Slope  (ANS) crude oil compared to                                                                    
the  prior  spring  revenue   forecast.  The  forecast  used                                                                    
futures  market   forecast  for   as  many  years   as  were                                                                    
available. The  data on  the slide  used the  futures market                                                                    
through FY  23 and  an inflation  assumption was  applied to                                                                    
the  forecast beyond  that timeframe.  He explained  that it                                                                    
provided  a timely  and transparent  source  of the  revenue                                                                    
forecast.  The department  generated the  price forecast  on                                                                    
December 5 [2025] using futures  prices for the beginning of                                                                    
December.  The  FY 26  forecast  was  reduced by  $2.52  per                                                                    
barrel  to $65.48  per barrel  and  the FY  27 forecast  was                                                                    
reduced  by $5.00  per barrel  to $62  per barrel.  He noted                                                                    
that farther out in the  future, the forecast was similar to                                                                    
the spring forecast. The change  [between the two forecasts]                                                                    
reflected  an  anticipation  of   a  bit  of  an  oversupply                                                                    
situation for the next several  years that resolved later in                                                                    
the forecast.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel moved  to slide  18  titled "Petroleum  Detail:                                                                    
Nominal Brent Forecasts Comparison  as of January 21, 2026."                                                                    
A  chart on  the  slide included  a  comparison between  the                                                                    
futures market, an average of  market analysts, and the U.S.                                                                    
Energy  Information Agency  (EIA). He  explained that  Brent                                                                    
was a  benchmark crude that  typically priced very  close to                                                                    
ANS.  The current  differential  between ANS  and Brent  was                                                                    
hovering around  zero at less  than $1. The  current futures                                                                    
market was mostly unchanged since  the division prepared its                                                                    
forecast  in  the  beginning  of  December.  The  short-term                                                                    
energy outlook from the EIA  suggested a significantly lower                                                                    
price  into the  low  to mid  $50s in  the  next two  years.                                                                    
Analysts  on average  were forecasting  prices a  bit higher                                                                    
than the  futures market and  the department's  forecast. He                                                                    
noted that  the difference was  a bit larger  than typically                                                                    
shown between  the different sources. He  explained that the                                                                    
EIA used  a statistical forecast looking  at supply, demand,                                                                    
and other fundamentals and they  were seeing a potential for                                                                    
an over supplied situation in  the market, which would drive                                                                    
down oil  prices. The  futures market  was projecting  a bit                                                                    
more of an uncertainty and  risk premium, something that was                                                                    
not explicitly factored into the  EIA forecast. He stated it                                                                    
was  likely a  significant  piece of  what  was driving  the                                                                    
higher outlook  in the futures  market versus the  EIA. Some                                                                    
of the  analysts were more  bullish on oil prices  in coming                                                                    
years.  For  example,  Goldman Sachs  was  pointing  to  the                                                                    
possibility that the  current lower prices would  lead to an                                                                    
undersupply situation  in 2028  and beyond as  demand growth                                                                    
remained strong.  Historically all oil price  forecasts were                                                                    
wrong,  but the  errors  from the  futures  market were  the                                                                    
lowest  and  it  had  been the  most  accurate  source.  The                                                                    
department felt comfortable with a  forecast that was in the                                                                    
range of the other sources shown on the slide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:14:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  advanced to slide 19  titled "Petroleum Detail:                                                                    
UGF Relative to  Price per Barrel (without  POMV): FY 2027."                                                                    
The slide  showed what  would happen  to revenues  if prices                                                                    
were different  than the forecast.  For FY 27, based  on the                                                                    
$62  per barrel  forecast,  the  total unrestricted  revenue                                                                    
(excluding the  Permanent Fund) was  about $2.2  billion. He                                                                    
explained that near  the forecast price each  $1 increase or                                                                    
decrease  led  to a  change  of  about  $30 million  in  UGF                                                                    
revenue.  Given the  progressive nature  of the  state's oil                                                                    
tax  system, at  higher  oil  prices the  change  was a  bit                                                                    
higher  per  $1 difference.  He  moved  to slide  20  titled                                                                    
Petroleum   Detail:  Changes   to   North  Slope   Petroleum                                                                    
Production Forecast.  He noted that  the same data  had been                                                                    
presented  to   the  committee  the  previous   day  by  the                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.  In general, the production                                                                    
forecast  was  fairly  stable and  increasing  with  457,000                                                                    
barrels per day  in FY 26 and 517,000 barrels  per day in FY                                                                    
27. He highlighted that production  impacts from the startup                                                                    
of the  Pikka field coming  online started to be  evident in                                                                    
FY  27.  Oil  production  was  expected  to  exceed  500,000                                                                    
barrels per  day for  the first time  in several  years. The                                                                    
slide showed  a couple of  years of natural  slight declines                                                                    
in  FY 28  and FY  29. Impacts  of the  Willow field  coming                                                                    
online and phase 2 of the  Pikka project began in FY 30. The                                                                    
department was  forecasting over 600,000 barrels  per day in                                                                    
FY  32 and  over  650,000  barrels per  day  in  FY 33.  The                                                                    
biggest change from  the spring forecast was  some moving of                                                                    
production  in  the  FY  27  through  FY  29  window,  which                                                                    
represented firming up the  timelines and expectation around                                                                    
the field  startup for Pikka  and Willow. He  believed there                                                                    
was  much  more confidence  and  certainty  of Pikka  coming                                                                    
online in the very near future.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  addressed   historical   data  and   forecast                                                                    
information for North Slope  allowable lease expenditures on                                                                    
slide 21.  The slide  showed the  cost of  production, which                                                                    
was reported on tax returns  and impacted the calculation of                                                                    
the oil and gas  production tax. Additionally, the allowable                                                                    
lease  expenditures were  an  important  measure of  company                                                                    
investment and activity in the  state. In FY 25, North Slope                                                                    
expenditures  totaled $8.7  billion,  which was  by far  the                                                                    
highest value  on record since the  state started collecting                                                                    
the data. There  was continued ramp up  and massive spending                                                                    
at major new developments like  Pikka and Willow, as well as                                                                    
significant  investments  in   other  producing  fields  and                                                                    
fairly robust  exploration activity.  He stated there  was a                                                                    
lot of activity and money  invested in Alaska's oil patch in                                                                    
the past  year. He  detailed that capital  expenditures were                                                                    
$5.6 billion  in FY  25. The forecast  showed the  number as                                                                    
the  high water  mark,  but the  forecast showed  relatively                                                                    
robust  levels of  capital expenditures  at over  $3 billion                                                                    
per year  over the next decade.  Operating expenditures were                                                                    
$3.1 billion  in FY 25,  and the department  was forecasting                                                                    
slow  but  steady increases  due  to  a combination  of  new                                                                    
developments as  well as general  cost inflation in  the oil                                                                    
patch. He noted that cost  inflation had been evident in the                                                                    
past  several years,  which  had  been increasing  operating                                                                    
costs and challenging the economics of some of the fields.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson remarked that  even though there had been                                                                    
articles highlighting staffing cuts  in the industry, it was                                                                    
inarguable  that the  investment was  there. He  highlighted                                                                    
that the  $8.7 billion in  spending the previous year  was a                                                                    
record number.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  replied that  the $8.7  billion was  real money                                                                    
spent in the last fiscal year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked   how   long   the   capital                                                                    
expenditure deductions against taxes  owed could be paid out                                                                    
on  a project.  For  example, Willow  was  expected to  come                                                                    
online in FY 30. She noted  it was an expensive endeavor and                                                                    
prices had increased. She asked  if there were limits to how                                                                    
long a company could take expenditures against taxes owed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel   responded   that  the   department   had   a                                                                    
presentation addressing  all of  the details of  the state's                                                                    
production   tax  system.   He   offered   to  provide   the                                                                    
presentation in  the future. The state  allowed an immediate                                                                    
deduction of capital expenditures  for the net profits share                                                                    
of  the production  tax; depreciation  was not  required. To                                                                    
the extent  a company had  income and revenue  from projects                                                                    
on the North  Slope, it would be able to  use 100 percent of                                                                    
the capital  expenditures to reduce the  net profits portion                                                                    
of the tax  calculation in the year  incurred. He elaborated                                                                    
that  if the  company  was a  new entrant  or  did not  have                                                                    
sufficient other  revenue and entered  into a  net operating                                                                    
loss  situation,  it  would earn  a  carried  forward  lease                                                                    
expenditure. A  carried forward lease expenditure  could not                                                                    
be used to  reduce tax against the gross  minimum tax floor,                                                                    
but  they could  be carried  forward indefinitely;  however,                                                                    
they decreased  in value  by one-tenth  of the  prior year's                                                                    
ending  value after  the eighth  or eleventh  year from  the                                                                    
time  they   were  earned.  He  expounded   that  the  lease                                                                    
expenditures could  be carried forward indefinitely,  but at                                                                    
a certain  point they  began declining  in value,  which was                                                                    
called "the down lift."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan referenced the  record year of capital                                                                    
expenditures on the North Slope  that was not yet generating                                                                    
new oil because  there was always a delay. She  asked if the                                                                    
$8.7 billion  could stretch out  for another  decade against                                                                    
taxes owed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel confirmed  it was the case for a  portion of the                                                                    
$8.7 billion.  He explained that a  very significant portion                                                                    
of the  number was  applied against  the tax  calculation in                                                                    
2025. The  department estimated that  about $6.4  billion of                                                                    
the $8.7  billion was applied  in the tax calculation  in FY                                                                    
25.  The  additional  $2.3 billion  became  carried  forward                                                                    
lease expenditures that could  potentially be used to impact                                                                    
future tax liabilities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked  if companies could go  below the 4                                                                    
percent floor with GVR [gross value reduction] new oil.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel   answered    that   carried   forward   lease                                                                    
expenditures  could  not be  used  to  reduce tax  liability                                                                    
below  the  floor.  A  significant  amount  of  the  carried                                                                    
forward lease  expenditures were not anticipated  to be used                                                                    
in the  revenue forecast  because companies were  subject to                                                                    
the  minimum  tax floor.  There  were  certain credits  that                                                                    
could be  used to reduce tax  below the 4 percent  gross tax                                                                    
minimum tax  floor including the  per taxable  barrel credit                                                                    
for new  oil, if  a company  did not  use other  per taxable                                                                    
barrel credits.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  noted  that   the  committee  may  hear                                                                    
something  about   the  issue   that  evening   [during  the                                                                    
governor's State of the State address].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  looked at  the graph  on slide  21 and                                                                    
observed that  the blue line [showing  capital expenditures]                                                                    
was  decreasing  and  the  orange  line  [showing  operating                                                                    
expenditures]  was increasing  slightly.  He  asked how  the                                                                    
department was calculating the expenditures  so far into the                                                                    
future while  still allowing a gross  minimum. He considered                                                                    
the  capital investment  decline  and did  not  see how  the                                                                    
department could project companies  with a gross minimum for                                                                    
the next 10 to 15 years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  asked  Representative Stapp  to  rephrase  the                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   asked   why  the   department   was                                                                    
projecting companies  at the gross  minimum for so  many out                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  explained  that   within  the  production  tax                                                                    
calculation the  net profits tax  calculation and  the gross                                                                    
minimum tax  floor calculation  were done  side by  side. He                                                                    
detailed that with relatively low  oil prices and relatively                                                                    
high  spending -  a combination  of large  investments being                                                                    
made and significant  inflation in the industry  - there was                                                                    
a  lower  amount of  production  tax  value or  profit.  The                                                                    
department  was anticipating  that the  4 percent  gross tax                                                                    
would be higher  than the net profits tax  after credits for                                                                    
most  companies  on  the North  Slope  for  the  foreseeable                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked how long the  foreseeable future                                                                    
was.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel replied that the  department was projecting that                                                                    
production tax revenue would be  at or below the minimum tax                                                                    
floor for the entirety of the ten-year revenue forecast.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:26:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  asked for clarity on  what Mr. Stickel                                                                    
meant by relatively low oil  prices. He asked if Mr. Stickel                                                                    
was referring to  the projected $62 per barrel for  FY 27 or                                                                    
some other number.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  answered   that  when   he  used   the  words                                                                    
"relatively low,"  he had  been making  a comparison  to the                                                                    
past era of oil prices that  were closer to $100 per barrel.                                                                    
The forecast was for prices to  remain in the $60 to $70 per                                                                    
barrel range over the entirety of the ten-year forecast.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  if there  was any  benchmark to                                                                    
help  understand  values.  He  referenced  the  inflationary                                                                    
capital cost  increase. For example,  he asked if  they were                                                                    
at gross minimum at $60 per barrel, but not $65 per barrel.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  responded  that  each  company  had  a  unique                                                                    
portfolio of operations and economic  situation on the North                                                                    
Slope. The  aggregate the division  expected was  around $64                                                                    
per  barrel for  FY 27.  He  described it  as the  crossover                                                                    
point between  the gross  and net tax.  He explained  it was                                                                    
very close  to the level  where the department  would expect                                                                    
total  production  tax revenue  to  exceed  the minimum  tax                                                                    
floor. He  noted there  was a wide  range. He  detailed that                                                                    
some  companies would  pay above  the minimum  tax floor  at                                                                    
around $60 per  barrel and other companies  would not exceed                                                                    
their  tax  floor  until  well  over  $100  per  barrel.  He                                                                    
elaborated that it  depended on how much  the companies were                                                                    
investing and their producing assets.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:28:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   asked   how  the   department   was                                                                    
projecting all  tangible producers at the  gross minimum for                                                                    
over ten years if the range was $60 to $100 per barrel.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   answered  that  the  division   forecast  tax                                                                    
liability  for  every  field and  individual  company  using                                                                    
proprietary  information available  to  the department.  The                                                                    
number  published  in  the  Revenue   Sources  Book  was  an                                                                    
aggregate  calculation.  In  aggregate, the  department  was                                                                    
expecting that production  tax revenue would be  at or below                                                                    
the minimum tax floor;  however, the aggregate was comprised                                                                    
of companies  paying at,  below, and  above the  minimum tax                                                                    
floor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  for an  indicator  that  would                                                                    
change  the   calculus.  He  used  oil   price,  lower  than                                                                    
anticipated investment,  and a lower than  expected increase                                                                    
in inflation as examples.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   replied  that  the  four   primary  variables                                                                    
included   oil   price,   oil  production,   spending,   and                                                                    
transportation cost. He noted  that the next slide pertained                                                                    
to transportation cost.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:30:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson   asked  for   a  repeat  of   the  four                                                                    
variables.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel replied  that the  variables were  price, lease                                                                    
expenditures, production, and  transportation cost. He moved                                                                    
to slide  22 and  discussed North Slope  transportation cost                                                                    
of moving  oil from the  North Slope  to market on  the West                                                                    
Coast. The transportation costs  impacted the value of every                                                                    
barrel of  oil for tax  and royalty purposes.  He elaborated                                                                    
that  the  costs included  getting  the  oil to  market.  He                                                                    
pointed to  a bar chart on  slide 22 and explained  that the                                                                    
largest portion  was the  marine transportation  cost [shown                                                                    
in blue]  for tankers  getting oil from  Valdez to  the West                                                                    
Coast  market. The  orange portion  of the  bars represented                                                                    
the   Trans-Alaska  Pipeline   System   (TAPS)  tariff   for                                                                    
transporting oil from the North  Slope to Valdez. There were                                                                    
also  a  variety  of   other  small  transportation  charges                                                                    
including feeder  pipeline tariffs, quality bank,  and other                                                                    
items.  The average  transportation cost  for ANS  crude was                                                                    
$10.55 per  barrel in FY  25. The department  was projecting                                                                    
the number would  be stable and declining  over the ten-year                                                                    
forecast  horizon. Any  higher  costs were  being offset  by                                                                    
increased  production into  the pipeline.  He used  the TAPS                                                                    
tariff  as an  example and  explained that  it took  a fixed                                                                    
cost  of  operating TAPS  and  dividing  it over  many  more                                                                    
barrels with  the new production  coming in from  Willow and                                                                    
Pikka, which was decreasing the  transportation cost for all                                                                    
of the barrels on the North Slope.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:32:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  looked at  slide  23  titled "State  Petroleum                                                                    
Revenue by  Land Type."  He explained that  not all  oil was                                                                    
the same. Historically, most oil  production came from state                                                                    
land,  but   that  was  changing   with  some  of   the  new                                                                    
developments. The  slide expanded  the forecast due  to some                                                                    
of the changes  from federal royalty enacted by  the One Big                                                                    
Beautiful  Bill Act  (OB3).  He detailed  that  in terms  of                                                                    
petroleum  revenues,  production,  corporate,  and  property                                                                    
taxes were fairly straightforward  and applied to everything                                                                    
in  the  state  and  within the  state's  three-mile  limit.                                                                    
Royalty rates  varied based  on the  ownership of  the land.                                                                    
The  state received  all royalties  for production  on state                                                                    
land and state  waters up to three miles  offshore. For NPR-                                                                    
A, currently  50 percent was  shared with the state  and for                                                                    
certain  leases  issued after  July  2025,  the share  would                                                                    
increase  to 70  percent  beginning in  federal fiscal  year                                                                    
2034  under  OB3. For  federal  waters  three to  six  miles                                                                    
offshore the  state received  a 27  percent share.  For Cook                                                                    
Inlet leases issued  under OB3, the share  would increase to                                                                    
70 percent in  federal fiscal year 2034.  For federal waters                                                                    
beyond  six miles  offshore, there  was currently  no direct                                                                    
state revenue share, but for  Cook Inlet leases issued under                                                                    
OB3 there  would be  a 70 percent  lease share  beginning in                                                                    
2034.   For   Alaska   National   Wildlife   Refuge   (ANWR)                                                                    
production,  the state  received a  50 percent  share, which                                                                    
would increase  to 70  percent in  federal fiscal  year 2034                                                                    
for all leases including  current leases. For any production                                                                    
from private  land (including a  portion of  production from                                                                    
the  Pikka  field),  the  state  levied  a  tax  on  royalty                                                                    
interest. The  tax was  5 percent  of the  private landowner                                                                    
royalty value  for oil  and one  and two-thirds  percent for                                                                    
gas.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked  if the state received  a 5 percent                                                                    
royalty on private land.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel answered  that the royalty on  private land went                                                                    
to the landowner and the state  levied a tax of 5 percent on                                                                    
the value of the royalty share.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked  if the 70 percent  from HR-1 [also                                                                    
known as the One Big Beautiful  Bill Act or OB3] brought the                                                                    
state  to parity  with  the  Gulf of  Mexico.  He asked  for                                                                    
verification that the  goal had been to be  treated the same                                                                    
way.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded that it  was his understanding. He did                                                                    
not have the details on hand.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan directed a  question to the DOR acting                                                                    
commissioner. She  asked for a  status update on  the audits                                                                    
for  oil compliance  negotiated settlements.  She understood                                                                    
they may not be completed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Earls answered that the  department was                                                                    
working with the legislative auditor  on the audits. She did                                                                    
not believe the audits were complete.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if  there would  potentially be                                                                    
seven  years   of  audit   information  on   the  negotiated                                                                    
settlements.  Alternatively,  she  wondered if  there  would                                                                    
only be five years of information.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Earls  believed the  information  went                                                                    
back to 2018.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  if   there  was  an  expected                                                                    
timeline for completing the information.  She planned to ask                                                                    
the auditor the same question.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Earls replied that she did not have any                                                                     
update at the present time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel thanked the committee for the opportunity to                                                                        
present the forecast.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson thanked the presenters. He reviewed the                                                                      
schedule for the following day.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:38:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:38 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
H.FIN DOR Fall 2025 Forecast Presentation 01.22.26.pdf HFIN 1/22/2026 1:30:00 PM
DOR Response to H.FIN questions on Fall Forecast 01.22.26.pdf HFIN 1/22/2026 1:30:00 PM