Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/01/2025 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:08:35 AM Presentation: State Debt Summary and Credit Review
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        May 1, 2025                                                                                             
                         9:07 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:07:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 9:07 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative   Jamie  Allard                                                                                                  
Representative   Jeremy  Bynum                                                                                                  
Representative   Alyse  Galvin                                                                                                  
Representative   Sara  Hannan                                                                                                   
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ryan Williams, State Debt Manager, Department of Revenue.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Adam Crum, Commissioner, Department of Revenue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: STATE DEBT SUMMARY AND CREDIT REVIEW                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: STATE DEBT SUMMARY AND CREDIT REVIEW                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:08:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
RYAN  WILLIAMS,   STATE  DEBT  MANAGER,   DEPARTMENT   OF  REVENUE,                                                             
introduced   the  PowerPoint    presentation   "State   of  Alaska:                                                             
Credit  Rating   Outlook  and  Debt  Summary"  dated   May 1,  2025                                                             
(copy  on  file).  He  continued  on  slide  3  that  included  the                                                             
contents of the presentation titled "Framework:"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef State's Bond Rating Overview                                                                                    
      .notdef State's Recent Bond Rating Improvements                                                                         
      .notdef Credit Rating and Market Feedback                                                                               
      .notdef Current Municipal Market Update                                                                                 
      .notdef State's Debt Profile                                                                                            
      .notdef State's Debt Capacity                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   moved   to  slide   4  titled   "State   of  Alaska                                                             
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions:"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Summary of Bond Refinancing Transactions                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 .notdef In the last year, DOR has successfully undertaken                                                                    
        five refinancing transactions                                                                                           
      .notdef Total par amount  $582,990,000                                                                                  
      .notdef Total net present value savings  $36,893,604                                                                    
  .notdef Release of Debt Service Reserve Fund for Airport                                                                    
        System Refinancing Transaction $7.5 million                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   delineated   that  the  terms  of  the  refinanced                                                              
loans remained intact.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson  wondered   what airport   debt   was for.                                                             
Mr.  Williams   responded   that  the  prior  airport   debt  issue                                                             
was   for    multiple    types    of   projects    like    building                                                             
maintenance,   terminal   projects,   paving,   etc.   The  revenue                                                             
bond   debt   was   issued    over   time   to   support    airport                                                             
activities.   The transaction   refinanced   bonds  issued  in 2016                                                             
reducing   annual    debt   service   payments   to   roughly   $23                                                             
million.  Without   the  transaction,   the  debt service   payment                                                             
would  ramp  up in  2026  and  ensuing  years.  He  mentioned  that                                                             
the  transaction    ensured   a  streamlined   and  smooth   annual                                                             
debt payment.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:12:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Johnson   asked   how  much   of  the   bond  was                                                             
unspent  and  if  it  was  for  specific  projects.   Mr.  Williams                                                             
answered    that   there   were   no   projects   on   refinancing                                                              
transactions,    it   was   merely   refinancing    the  debt.    He                                                            
elaborated   that  all  of  the  proceeds  of  the  bonds  pay  off                                                             
old  bonds  and reduced  interest   rates  and therefore,   did not                                                             
reflect    project    fund    transactions     that   were    prior                                                             
issuances.     Representative     Johnson    assumed    that    the                                                             
refinancing   was  not  specific  to  a  particular   airport.  She                                                             
asked  if  lacking   any  STIP  issues  how  quickly   the  funding                                                             
could  be  spent.  Mr.  Williams   replied   that  he was  not  the                                                             
right  person  to  comment  on the  Department  of  Transportation                                                              
and   Public   Facilities    (DOT)    involvement    in   obtaining                                                             
federal   grants.  He  was  aware  that  there   was  potential   to                                                            
utilize debt as a tool for certain types of projects.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Schrage   noted  that   Representative   Galvin   joined                                                             
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Johnson   asked   how  quickly   the   money  was                                                             
available   after  a bond  issuance.   Mr. Williams   replied  that                                                             
the  project   was  reviewed  by  the  state  bond   committee  for                                                             
the  airport   system  and   could  take  anywhere   from   2  to  6                                                            
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked  if  the  debt  service  bonds  were                                                             
for  the international   airports   or rural  airports  or  whether                                                             
they  were  not  differentiated.    Mr.  Williams  responded   that                                                             
it  was  for  the  international    airport   system  and  was  for                                                             
projects     at    the    Anchorage     International      Airport.                                                             
Representative    Hannan  asked   if  Undesignated   General   Fund                                                             
(UGF)  money   expended  or  was  the   enterprise   income  paying                                                             
off   the  bond.   Mr.   Williams   answered   that   the   airport                                                             
revenue   bonds   were   paid   off  by   various   contracts   the                                                             
airport   undertook    with   airlines.    Representative    Hannan                                                             
asked  whether   the  bonds   were  a  risk  for   the  state.  She                                                             
deduced  that  they  were  not  because  the  airport  enterprises                                                              
generated   sufficient   revenue   to   pay  off  the   bonds.  Mr.                                                             
Williams   responded    in  the   affirmative.    The  bonds   were                                                             
secured   by  the  gross  revenues   of  the  airport   along  with                                                             
other security mechanisms like a reserve fund.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:19:30 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:19:51 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster took over chairing the meeting.                                                                                 
Mr. Williams discussed slide 5 titled "State of Alaska                                                                          
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions:"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      General Obligation Refunding Bonds-Series 2024 A                                                                          
      Build America Bonds                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
             Refund all the State's outstanding General                                                                         
             Obligation Bonds Series 2010 A  Build America                                                                      
             Bonds (BABs)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State of Alaska exercised optional                                                                         
           extraordinary provision                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Par Amount of Refunded Bonds $119,570,000                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Tax-Exempt Refinancing from the previously                                                                 
           issued taxable BABs                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        Transaction Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Gross Savings  $4,506,834                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Net Present Value Savings  $3,999,992 or 3.35                                                              
             percent                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Subscription Levels  $578 Million                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 5.4X across the board                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams advanced to slide 6 titled " State of Alaska                                                                       
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions Cont.:"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      General Obligation Refunding Bonds Series 2024B and                                                                       
      2025A                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        Refund all the State's outstanding General                                                                              
      Obligation Bonds Series 2015B and 2016 A&B Bonds                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Par Amount of Refunded Bonds $190,430,000                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $82,940,000 General Obligation Refunding Bonds-                                                            
             Series 2024B (Bond Tender)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $107,490,000 General Obligation Refunding Bonds                                                            
              Series 2025A (Forward Delivery)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Tax-Exempt Refinancing                                                                                     
        Transaction Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Aggregate Net Present Value Savings                                                                        
             $16,533,796 or 8.10 percent                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2024B (Tender)  $8,236,891 or 9.14                                                                  
             percent                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2025A (Forward Delivery)  $8,296,904 or                                                             
             7.29 percent                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Subscription Levels  $1,210,400 billion                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 6.3 times across the board  35 Investment                                                                  
             Groups (i.e., Vanguard, Fidelity, Susquehanna,                                                                     
             JPMIM, Brown Brothers, Blackrock)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued to slide 7 titled "State of Alaska                                                                       
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions Cont.:"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Alaska International Airport System                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        Refund all the Airport System's 2016A&B Bonds                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Par Amount of Refunded Bonds $117,960,000                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $67,750,000 Revenue Refunding Bonds 2025A Bonds                                                            
             (Bond Tender)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $50,210,000 Revenue Refunding Bonds 2025B Bonds                                                            
             (Forward Delivery)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Tax-Exempt Refinancing                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        Transaction Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Aggregate Net Present Value Savings                                                                        
           $8,876,618 or 6.53 percent                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2025A (Tender)  $5,303,723 or 7.16                                                                  
             percent                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2025B (Forward Delivery)  $3,572,895 or                                                             
             5.77 percent                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Debt Service Reserve Fund Release $7.5 million                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Subscription Levels  $696.2 million                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 5.9 times across the board  31 Investment                                                                  
             Groups (i.e., Vanguard, Fidelity, Wilmington                                                                       
             Trust, Brown Brothers, Boston Company, Capital                                                                     
             Research and Management)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson asked if the airport revenue was                                                                         
generated from landing fees, etc. Mr. Williams responded in                                                                     
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued on slide 8 titled "State of Alaska                                                                       
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions Cont.:"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Goose Creek Correctional Facility                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Refund lease revenue refunding bonds 2025A&B Bonds                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Par Amount of Refunded Bonds $99,460,000                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $63,025,000 Lease Revenue Refunding Bonds 2025A                                                            
             Bonds (Bond Tender)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $36,435,000 Lease Revenue Refunding Bonds 2025B                                                            
             Bonds (Forward Delivery)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Tax-Exempt Refinancing                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        Transaction Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Aggregate Net Present Value Savings                                                                        
           $5,589,231 or   5.35 percent                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2025A (Tender)  $3,745,758 or 5.63                                                                  
           percent                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Series 2025B (Forward Delivery)  $1,843,472 or                                                             
           4.85 percent                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Subscription Levels  $106.6 million                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 1.1 times across the board  11 Investment                                                                  
           Groups (i.e., J.P. Morgan, Vanguard, Breckenridge                                                                    
           Capital,   Goldman Sachs, PIMCO)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   added  that  the  net  present   value  savings   of                                                            
about  $5.6  million   decreased   the  subject  to  appropriation                                                              
commitments    for  the   lease  purchase   of   the  Goose   Creek                                                             
Correctional Facility.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  advanced   to  slide  9 titled   " State  of  Alaska                                                             
Recent Bond Refinancing Transactions Cont.:"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Alaska Municipal Bond Bank                                                                                                
     General Obligation and refunding bonds 2025 Series                                                                         
        One and Two                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Par Amount of Refunded Bonds $55,570,000                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $41,900,000 General Obligation and Refunding                                                               
             Bonds, 2025 Series One                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $13,675,000 General Obligation and Refunding                                                               
             Bonds, 2025 Series Two                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Tax-Exempt Refinancing                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        Transaction Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Aggregate Net Present Value Savings                                                                        
             $1,893,967 or 3.8 percent                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 2025 Series One  $1,790,158 or 3.9 percent                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 2025 Series Two  $105,866 or 2.1 percent                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Subscription Levels  $198 million                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef 3.5 times across the board  10 Investment                                                                  
             Groups (i.e., Breckenridge Capital, PIMCO,                                                                         
             Fidelity, Vanguard, Appleton, Loomis, Norther                                                                      
             Trust)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:23:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   asked  about  the  Municipal  Bond  Bank                                                             
and  to  list  the municipalities    that  had  access  to  it. Mr.                                                             
Williams   replied   that  all   political   subdivisions   of  the                                                             
state  were  able  to  issue   bonds  through  the  bond  bank.   He                                                            
furthered   that  there   was  a  recent  expansion   of  the  bond                                                             
bank's   authority   to   fund   projects   for   regional   health                                                             
organizations,    the  University   of   Alaska  (UA),   and  joint                                                             
action   agencies   like  the  Southeast    Alaska  Power   Agency.                                                             
Representative   Johnson   asked  Mr.  Willians   to  name  another                                                             
joint action agency. Mr. Williams offered to follow up.                                                                         
Representative Johnson requested a list of all of the                                                                           
agencies that had authority under the bond bank.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster requested that Mr. Williams follow up with                                                                      
the info.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued on slide 10 titled "State's Bond                                                                         
Rating Overview:"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      Bond Rating General Information                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef A bond rating is a way to measure the                                                                      
             creditworthiness of a bond, which corresponds                                                                      
             to the cost of borrowing for an issuer. These                                                                      
             ratings typically assign a letter grade to                                                                         
             bonds that indicates their credit quality.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Bond ratings are provided by third-party                                                                        
           independent rating agencies such as:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
             Standard & Poor's Global Ratings                                                                                   
             Moody's Investors Service                                                                                          
             Fitch Ratings Inc.                                                                                                 
             Kroll Bond Rating Agency                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Rating Agencies conduct a thorough financial                                                               
             analysis of the issuer based on their published                                                                    
             Public Finance Criteria that generally focus on                                                                    
             different but similar primary credit factors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
             Government Framework                                                                                               
             Financial Management                                                                                               
             Economy                                                                                                            
             Budgetary Performance                                                                                              
             Debt and Liability profile                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Bond ratings are critical to alerting investors                                                            
             to the quality and stability of the bonds and                                                                      
             the issuer.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Higher rated bonds "investment grade" provide                                                                      
             lower risk and lower borrowing cost                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Lower rated bonds "non-investment grade"                                                                              
             provide for higher risk and higher borrowing                                                                       
             cost                                                                                                               
Mr.  Williams  examined   slide  11 titled   "State's  Bond  Rating                                                             
Overview:"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Importance of Credit Ratings to State of Alaska                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           Cost of borrowing on capital improvement projects                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           State bond rating benefits and/or impacts the                                                                        
           Alaska Municipal Bond Bank and underlying issuers                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Positive bond ratings attract national and global                                                                    
           investors to the State                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:28:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued   to  slide   12  titled  "State's   Bond                                                             
Rating  Overview:"   The  slide  contained   a chart   of the  Bond                                                             
Rating  Scale  for  each  bonding  agency  that  began  at  AAA and                                                             
ended at a C rating.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative     Galvin   understood    that   Moody's    current                                                             
rating  stood   at Aa3  which   put  Alaska  at  average  or  below                                                             
average  to  other  states.   She  cited  slide  16.  She  believed                                                             
her   statement   provided   context    to  the   state's   current                                                             
bonding   rating.    Mr.  Williams    responded    that  he   would                                                             
address  the  ratings   in further   detail  in  later  slides.   He                                                            
indicated   that   Alaska  was   only  a   "few  notches   off  the                                                             
highest grade."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued   to  slide   13  titled  "State   Credit                                                             
Bond Rating Improvements:"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Over The Last Year, We Have Seen Six Credit Rating                                                                        
      Improvements                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      Department of Revenue engaged Kroll Bond Rating Agency                                                                    
      (KBRA) in 2023.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef KBRA assigned an AA (Stable Outlook) to the                                                                
           State's General Obligation Bonds and AA- for the                                                                     
           Alaska Municipal Bond Bank Authority.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef In connection with the 2024 A Bonds transaction                                                            
             the State saw credit improvements.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef S&P improved the State's rating from AA- to AA                                                             
             with Stable outlook.                                                                                               
           .notdef Moody's improved the State's rating from Aa3                                                               
             Stable to Aa3 Positive.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef On March 4, 2024, Moody's upgraded the State of                                                            
             Alaska Airport System Revenue Bonds to Aa3 from                                                                    
             A1 with Stable outlook.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      On February 25, 2025, KBRA upgraded the State of                                                                          
      Alaska  General   Obligation   Bonds   to  a  rating  of  AA+                                                             
      with a  stable outlook.   Highest  Bond Rating  Since  2016.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Tomaszewski   observed   that  there   had  been  a                                                            
lot  of  recent  refinancing.   He  asked  whether  the  amount   of                                                            
refinancing   was  normal.  Mr.  Williams   answered  that   it was                                                             
an  extremely   active  year   of  refinancing   and  it  had  been                                                             
years  since  the bond  bank  had  been so  active.  He delineated                                                              
that  part  of  the  reason  was  a  function  of  when  the  prior                                                             
bonds   were  issued.  The  bonds  were  typically   issued  with  a                                                            
10  year  par call  and  many  of  the  refinanced  loans   were at                                                             
10  years  of  issuance.   Analysis   of  the  bonds  demonstrated                                                              
that  it was  advantageous   to refinance   the debt  and  decrease                                                             
future   debt  service   payments.    Representative   Tomaszewski                                                              
inquired   whether  the  bond  bank  would  engage   in additional                                                              
debt   refinancing.   Mr.   Williams   responded   that   the  bank                                                             
continually   reviewed    and  monitored   outstanding    debt  and                                                             
voiced that it exhausted all debt worth refinancing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:33:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   commented  that  he  had  never  heard   of                                                            
Kroll  but  had  heard  of  Moody's,   S&P,  and  Fitch.  He  asked                                                             
when  the  agency  was  established   and  why  the  state  engaged                                                             
with   them.   Mr.   Williams   replied   that   the   agency   was                                                             
established   roughly  10  years  prior.   He  furthered  that  the                                                             
impetus  for  engaging  Kroll  was  for its  descriptive   and well                                                             
written   reports    and  having    a  good   reputation    in  the                                                             
marketplace.    He  indicated   that   as  part   of  the   initial                                                             
engagement, Kroll conducted a robust review of the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued    to  slide  14   titled  "Recent   Bond                                                             
Rating Meetings-Credit Summary:"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Diversified and Resilient Revenue Streams                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Significant    project     developments     to   build    and                                                             
      diversity State revenue stream                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             Percent of market value transfer has been in                                                                       
           place for seven fiscal years and is a consistent                                                                     
           source of unrestricted general fund (UGF) revenue                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             Total petroleum revenue was 37.2 percent of UGF                                                                    
           in FY2024 and is estimated to be 29.7 percent in                                                                     
           FY2025                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      Deeply Experienced Management and Highly Conservative                                                                     
      Debt Program                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
             30+ years of combined experience between Deputy                                                                    
           Commissioner Limani and Debt Manager Williams                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Commitment towards a sustainable and long-term                                                                     
           comprehensive Fiscal Plan                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             Present value savings of over $36.9 million                                                                        
           achieved  since  June  2024  through  issuance  of                                                                   
           general  obligation   and revenue  refunding   bonds                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
             Ample Reserves: Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                      
          Fund (CBRF) $2.8 billion, Permanent Fund                                                                              
           balance $80.8 billion                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             Low debt load and no new bond authorization                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Rapid paydown of general obligation debt in the                                                                    
           next 10 years                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Well-funded pension obligations  PERS 89                                                                           
           percent and TERS 95 percent                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Fiscal Discipline                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Demonstrated commitment to structural budgetary                                                                         
      balance, including expenditure constraints                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        Semi-annual revenue forecast that includes outlook                                                                      
      for oil price, oil production, and state                                                                                  
      revenues                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        Annual public debt report, including debt management                                                                    
      policy and debt affordability analysis                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Very Strong Financial Position                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             Ample Reserves: Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                      
           Fund (CBRF) $2.8 billion, Permanent Fund balance                                                                     
           $80.8 billion                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Low debt load and no new bond authorization                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Rapid paydown of general obligation debt in the                                                                    
           next 10 years                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             Well-funded pension obligations  PERS 89                                                                           
           percent and TERS 95 percent                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Robust Outlook for Near-Term, Statewide Economic                                                                          
      Development                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
             Executive Orders will expand immense                                                                               
           opportunities and ensure the nation's energy                                                                         
           security                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
             Prominent ongoing resource development projects                                                                    
           impacting economic growth                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             Improved economic demographics                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Johnson    asked   whether   the   size   of  the                                                             
Earnings   Reserve    Account   (ERA)   of   the   Permanent   Fund                                                             
impacted   the  bond  ratings.  Mr.  Williams   responded  that   it                                                            
was   observed   as   part   of   all   the   state   savings   and                                                             
financials.     Representative      Johnson    wondered     whether                                                             
changing   to  a  single  account   structure  for   the  Permanent                                                             
Fund  would  impact  the  bond  ratings.  Mr.  Williams   responded                                                             
that   the  rating   agencies   were   definitely   interested    in                                                            
hearing    about   a   different    approach    to    the   current                                                             
structure.  He  was unsure  whether  it  would have  any  impact.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Stapp   asked  pointed   to   the  bullet   point                                                             
stating,  "Well-funded   pension  obligations     PERS  89  percent                                                             
and   TERS  95   percent."   He   offered   that   the  state   was                                                             
prohibited   from using  the  overfunded  health   care portion  of                                                             
the  pension  to  pay the  unfunded   liability.  He  wondered  why                                                             
a  rating   agency   would   view   it   as  a   strong   financial                                                             
position.  Mr.  Williams  answered   that the  state  reported  the                                                             
information   on  slide  14  to the  rating   agencies.  The  state                                                             
reported   on  each   trust   in  detail.   Representative    Stapp                                                             
reiterated    his   statement    and   inquired   why   the   state                                                             
presented   the  pension   position   as  blended.   Mr.   Williams                                                             
responded   that   all  rating   agencies   undertook    their  own                                                             
analysis   on  every   states'   pension   systems   and   Alaska's                                                             
information was merely a way to present the information.                                                                        
Mr.  Williams   advanced   to   slide  15  titled   "State's   Bond                                                             
Rating Overview:"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      • July 20, 2023: Initiation of "AA" rating on State GO                                                                    
      Debt by Kroll Bond Rating Agency                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      • April 30, 2024: Upgrade by S&P Global Ratings to                                                                        
      "AA," Outlook revised to Stable                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      • March 4, 2024: Outlook revised to Positive by                                                                           
    Moody's Investor's Service, "Aa3" rating maintained                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      • September 27, 2024: Outlook revised to Positive by                                                                      
      Fitch Ratings, "A+" rating maintained                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      • February 25, 2025: Kroll Bond Rating Agency upgraded                                                                    
      the State of Alaska General Obligation Bonds to                                                                           
      a rating of AA+ with a stable outlook                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued   to  slide   16  titled  "State's   Bond                                                             
Rating   Overview:"   that  contained   a  list  of  the  state   of                                                            
Alaska  compared  to  other  states  and reported   that the  state                                                             
was   in   the   mid-range   of   other   states.    He   addressed                                                             
Representative   Galvin's   question  and  explained   that  Alaska                                                             
had  a unique  credit  rating  because  the  state  did not  fit in                                                             
with the general criterion of rating agencies.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   quickly  advanced   to  Slide  17  titled   "Credit                                                             
Rating and Market Feedback:"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Initial Rating Agency Feedback                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           • Percent of Market Value (POMV) transfer has                                                                        
           been in place for seven fiscal years and is a                                                                        
           consistent source of UGF revenue                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           • Recent budgetary surplus and deposits to State                                                                     
           savings accounts, including the Constitutional                                                                       
           Budget Reserve Fund                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           • Significant reduction in State general fund                                                                        
           spending since 2013                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           • Recently stable oil price environment and                                                                          
           significant available natural resources under                                                                        
           development                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           • Well-funded pension obligations                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           • Low debt load and no new bond authorizations,                                                                      
           rapid paydown of GO debt in the next 10 years                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      • Improved economic demographics                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      • Prominent ongoing resource development projects                                                                         
      impacting further economic growth                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      • Ample reserves and recent positive investment                                                                           
      performance Market Feedback on Recent Transaction                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      • Institutional investors "love" Alaskan paper, very                                                                      
      high-quality credit, highly secured                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      • More frequency in the market and larger bond                                                                            
      issuances                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:41:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Galvin   acknowledged    that   the   state   was                                                             
unusual  in  that the  savings  were  not  great,  the economy  was                                                             
not  diverse,  that  state  did not  have  a broad  based  tax, and                                                             
had  a  volatile   and  limited   revenue   stream   from  oil  and                                                             
investments.    She  asked   him  to  discuss   what   made  Alaska                                                             
unique  compared   to  other  states.  Mr.  Williams   agreed  with                                                             
her  assessment.  He  related  that  the state's   reliance  on oil                                                             
and  gas  was  reduced  to  30  percent  significantly   less  than                                                             
the   roughly   80  percent   in  the   past,   which  was   viewed                                                             
positively   by   rating   agencies.   However,   30  percent   was                                                             
still   fairly  high   when  compared   to  states   with  a  broad                                                             
based  tax   and  it  was  a  more  volatile   revenue   stream   to                                                            
predict.  Representative    Galvin  asked  how  many  other  states                                                             
did  not have  any  broad  based tax.  Mr.  Williams  would  follow                                                             
up.  Representative   Galvin   voiced  that  it  was  important   to                                                            
understand   why  the   states  were   in  the  middling   ratings.                                                             
She  thought  it  would   save  the  state  money  if  the  ratings                                                             
were  higher.  Mr.  Williams  cited  the Alaska  Public  Debt  Book                                                             
published   in  January  2025.   The  data  contained   the  metric                                                             
that  a state  used  to  determine  the  amount  of  debt  it could                                                             
tolerate  compared   to  revenue.  He  delineated  that  the  state                                                             
fit  well  within  the metrics   at 4  percent  to  7 percent.  The                                                             
"hurdle"  was  to  prove  to the  rating  agencies   that  its debt                                                             
was   high  quality    but  unique   compared    to  other   states                                                             
structures.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:48:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Stapp  surmised   that  if  the  Permanent   Fund                                                             
was  removed   from  the  equation   the  state   clearly  did  not                                                             
have  enough   revenue  for   its  debt  based  on  taxation.   The                                                             
value  of  the   state's  investment   fund   was  likely  why  the                                                             
state's   credit  rating   was  favorable.   Mr.  Williams   agreed                                                             
that   the  Point   of  Market   Value  (POMV)   structure   was   a                                                            
credit strength.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Williams    continued    to   slide   18   titled    "Current                                                             
Municipal   Market  Update"  and  noted  the  data  represented   on                                                            
the  chart  and  graphs   were  collected   in  February  2025  and                                                             
was  outdated  due  to the  market's  recent  extreme  volatility.                                                              
He  pointed   to  the  graph   in  the  lower  right   corner  that                                                             
showed  a  spread   of  25  to  35  basis  points  or  .25  or  .35                                                             
percent differential between an AAA to AA rating.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Allard   requested   an updated   version   of the                                                             
data  with  the  acknowledgment   that   the market   had  remained                                                             
volatile.    Mr.  Williams    agreed   to   follow   up  with   the                                                             
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued   on  slide   19  titled  "State's   Debt                                                             
Profile:"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Authorization Process                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef All forms of State debt are authorized first by law                                                             
                                                                                                                                
             May be a one-time issuance amount or a not-to-                                                                     
           exceed issuance limit in statute                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
             General obligation bonds must then also be                                                                         
           approved by a majority of voters                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 .notdef General obligation bonds are the only debt secured                                                                   
      by full faith credit and taxing authority                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef All State debt must be structured and authorized by                                                             
      the State Bond Committee                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
             Includes general obligation bonds, subject to                                                                      
           appropriation issues, and state revenue bonds                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef The State Bond Committee determines method and                                                                  
      timing of debt issues to best utilize the state's                                                                         
      credit and debt capacity while meeting the authorized                                                                     
      project's cash flow needs                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
  .notdef The State has established other debt obligations                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             Reimbursement Programs                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef The School Debt Reimbursement Program   ("SDRP")                                                           
           or  HB  528  reimbursement,    administered   by  Alaska                                                             
           Department   of Education   and  Early  Development  and                                                             
           Department      of    Transportation      and     Public                                                             
           Facilities, respectively                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef SDRP: Not currently authorized for new  debt and                                                           
           periodically   funded   (was  most  recently   partially                                                             
           funded    in    2017,    2020   and    2022,    and    no                                                            
           appropriation     in   2021;   however,    supplemental                                                              
           budget     appropriations      offset     prior     year                                                             
           reductions)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        Retirement Systems                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Unfunded actuarially assumed liability (UAAL)                                                              
           for defined benefit employees is guaranteed by                                                                       
           the constitution                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Annual payments on the UAAL of other employers                                                             
          is reflected as State debt in the Annual                                                                              
           Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Some flexibility in how payments are made                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued to slide 20 titled "State's Debt                                                                         
Profile:"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Types of Alaska Public Debt                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Debt (General Obligation Bonds)  -  $523.5                                                           
           million                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Guaranteed Debt - $86.5 million                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Supported Debt - $149.5 million                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Unfunded Actuarial Accrued Liability (UAAL) -                                                              
           $4.404 billion                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Moral Obligation Debt - $1,179.6 million                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Supported Municipal Debt  Eligible for                                                               
           State Reimbursement - $379.1 million                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State and University Revenue Debt - $456.7                                                                 
           million                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Agency Debt - $1,464.8 million                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef State Agency Collateralized or Insured Debt -                                                              
           $1,292.5 million                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Municipal Debt - $3,074.8 million                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative     Johnson   wondered    how   Alaska   Industrial                                                              
Development   and Export  Authority   (AIDEA)  debt  factored  into                                                             
state  debt.  She  asked  whether  a  wall  existed  between  AIDEA                                                             
and  the  state.  Mr.  Williams   answered   that  AIDEA  debt  was                                                             
not  included  in  state  debt.  Representative   Johnson   relayed                                                             
that  the  potential  of  using  AIDEA  reserves  for  funding  the                                                             
budget   could   have   an  impact   on   its  bond   rating.   She                                                             
wondered   how  AIDEA's   bond   rating   was  separate   from  the                                                             
states.  Mr.  Williams  responded   that  AIDEA's  debt  was  not  a                                                            
general   obligation   debt   of  the  state.   He  recalled   that                                                             
AIDEA likely had its own security structure.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked  how  much  was  left  on the  debt                                                             
for  the Goose  Creek  bond.  She  asked whose  obligation   was  it                                                            
to  pay  it  off  bond   debt  if  a  prison  was  shuttered.   Mr.                                                             
Williams   responded   that  the  bonding  was   a Mat-Su   Borough                                                             
lease    revenue    bonds    that    included     a   subject     to                                                            
appropriation   commitment   by  the  state  of  Alaska  to  pay  to                                                            
lease  purchase   the  facility.   Therefore,   it  was  "extremely                                                             
important"   to  make  the   appropriation   payment   to  purchase                                                             
the  facility.  Representative   Hannan  asked  how  much  was left                                                             
on  the debt.  Mr.  Williams   responded  that  it  was about  $100                                                             
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:55:58 AM                                                                                                                    
Mr.  Williams   continued   on  slide   21  titled  "Debt   Service                                                             
Profile:"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Debt Activity and Updates                                                                                       
           •  On 6/4/2024,   the  State  closed  on  the GO  Series                                                             
           2024A   Bonds,  which   refunded   the  outstanding    GO                                                            
           Series   2010A,   which  contained   a  Federal   (Build                                                             
           America   Bond)  subsidy.   The  state  achieved   total                                                             
           debt    service    savings   of    approximately    $4.5                                                             
           million.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           •  On 8/15/2024,   the State  closed  on  the GO  Series                                                             
           2024B   Bonds,  and  on  8/6/2024,   the   state  priced                                                             
           the  GO  Series   2025A  Bonds  (Forward   Delivery)   to                                                            
           refund   the  outstanding    GO  Series  2015B,   2016A,                                                             
           and  2016B   Bonds.  Upon  closure   of  the  GO  Series                                                             
           2025A  (Forward   Delivery),  the  overall  transaction                                                              
           reduces   total debt  service  payments   over  the next                                                             
          12 years by approximately $19.5 million.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           •   SDRP  Update:    The  enacted   fiscal   year   2025                                                             
           budget   funded  the  SDRP  program  at  100%,  with   an                                                            
           appropriation    of  approximately   $57.5   million   to                                                            
           the     Department     of    Education      and    Early                                                             
           Development,   including   an estimated   $44.4  million                                                             
           from UGF and $13.1 million from the                                                                                  
           School Fund.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  relayed  the  information  on  the  chart  regarding                                                             
General  Obligation   Bonds  (GO) and  noted  the  total  remaining                                                             
GO  debt  was  approximately   $470  million.  He  pointed   to the                                                             
Subject   to   Appropriation:    Certificated    of  Participation                                                              
(COP's)   and  Lease  Revenue,   including   Goose  Creek  and  the                                                             
Anchorage   Parking    facility   that   was  approximately    $140                                                             
million   which  totaled   $608  million  in  remaining   debt.   He                                                            
added  that   the  School  Debt   Reimbursement   Program   totaled                                                             
roughly   $368   million.   He  indicated   that   there   were  no                                                             
remaining   authorizations    to  issue   GO  debt   at  the  state                                                             
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   advanced   to   slide  22  titled   "Debt   Service                                                             
Profile:"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      GO bonds outstanding decline through FY2041                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Recent Activity:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef The State does not have unissued GO bonding                                                                
           authority and the State's remaining 2012 GO bond                                                                     
           authorization was sold in FY2021 ($453.2 million                                                                     
           funded since 2012)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef Net debt service of $64.2 million in FY2025                                                                
           declining to final payment of $6.1 million in FY                                                                     
           2041                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  highlighted   that  the  state  had a  "modest  debt                                                             
program"   with  an "extremely   accelerated   principal   paydown"                                                             
of  approximately   87  percent   within  a  10  year  window.  The                                                             
annual  debt   payments  were  $40  million   to  60  million  over                                                             
the next seven years or so.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Williams   moved   to   slide   23   titled   "State's   Debt                                                             
Profile:"   Outstanding  Debt  as  of June  30,  2024    By  Type."                                                             
He  reported  that  the  slide  was  an  excerpt  from  the  Alaska                                                             
Public  Debt   book  and  broke  down  the  outstanding   debt  for                                                             
each type of bond.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Bynum   related   that  the   school   bond  debt                                                             
reimbursement   moratorium   was being  lifted.  He  wondered  what                                                             
impact  it  would  have  on  the  state's  debt  service  and  bond                                                             
ratings.  Mr.  Williams  answered   that the  program  had  been  in                                                            
moratorium    for    around    10   years.    The   state's    debt                                                             
appropriation     reimbursement    was   declining    as   no   new                                                             
entrants  were  allowed  in  the program.   He thought  that  if  it                                                            
were  reopened,   communities   could   work  with  Department    of                                                            
Education    and   Early    Development    (DEED)    on   necessary                                                             
projects.   He   was   unsure   of  any   impact   or  what   would                                                             
transpire.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:59:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Tomaszewski   pointed   to  the  Pension   System                                                             
Unfunded   Actuarial   Liability   (UAAL)   and  asked   about  the                                                             
unfunded    liability    of   $3.5    billion   for    the   Public                                                             
Employees'   Retirement  System   (PERS)  and  $1 billion   for the                                                             
Teachers   Retirement   System   (TRS).   He  noted   that  on  the                                                             
previous   slide  it  was  reported   as  98  percent   funded.   He                                                            
asked   for  an   explanation   of   the  numbers.   Mr.   Williams                                                             
responded   that  the reporting   was  combined  with  the  pension                                                             
and  healthcare   trusts.  He  reiterated  that  the  numbers  were                                                             
further   broken  down   in  the  annual   actuarial   reports  and                                                             
financial   statements.   It   was  common   practice   to  combine                                                             
both  trusts  in  the  UAAL  totals.  Representative   Tomaszewski                                                              
asked  how  the number  totaling   $4.4 billion  was  derived.  Mr.                                                             
Williams   replied  that  the  figure  was  accepted   by the  ARMB                                                             
board   in   June   2024,   from   the  2023   actuarial    report.                                                             
Representative   Tomaszewski   ascertained   that  the  ARMB  board                                                             
was  looking  at  ways to  retire  debt.  He  asked  what  were the                                                             
suggestions   for   "getting   rid  of  the   pension   debt."  Mr.                                                             
Williams   responded  that  there  was  a  system  to  pay  it down                                                             
overtime   and it  was  the  decision   of the  Alaska  Retirement                                                              
Management Board.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:02:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Williams   turned   to   slide  24   titled   "State's   Debt                                                             
Profile:"   Outstanding   Debt  as  of  June  30,  2024    By  Type                                                             
(cont.)"  Mr.  Williams  underlined   the  University  of  Alaska's                                                             
(UA)  debt  of  $229  million  outstanding.    The  Alaska  Housing                                                             
Finance   Corporation   (AHFC)   outstanding   debt  consisted    of                                                            
State   Agency   and  Agency   Collateralized    or  Insured   Debt                                                             
including    Capital   Project   Bonds   and   Home   and   General                                                             
Mortgage Revenue Bonds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued   to  slide   25  titled  "State's   Debt                                                             
Profile:"   Outstanding   Debt  as  of  June  30,  2024    By  Type                                                             
(cont.),"   He noted   that  the  total  of Alaska's   public  debt                                                             
was  approximately    $11.6   billion.   He   discussed   slide   26                                                            
titled "State's Debt Profile:"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      Historical and Future Debt Service                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef GF payment peaked in 2018 at approximately  $229                                                           
           million                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef FY2025 GF  Debt   service    payments    include                                                           
           approximately   $87.0  million  in  State  GO and  State                                                             
           Supported   debt,   and  approximately   $60.0   million                                                             
           for State Supported municipal debt                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           .notdef $683.7 million in remaining   debt   service   to                                                          
           maturity    of  outstanding    GO  debt   (principal    +                                                            
           interest,   as of  June  30, 2024,  and  $599.9  million                                                             
           as of February 1, 2025, unaudited)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   continued  on  slide   27  titled  "  State's  Debt                                                             
Capacity:"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Debt Affordability Analysis                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Annual analysis required by AS 37.07.045 to be                                                                  
      delivered by January 31                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Discusses credit ratings, current debt levels,                                                                  
      history and projections                                                                                                   
 .notdef Relies upon debt ratios, limit of four percent for                                                                   
      directly paid state debt, and seven percent when                                                                          
    combined with municipal debt that the state supports                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 .notdef Identifies currently authorized, but unissued debt                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Establishes refinancing parameters                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Determines a long-term debt capacity at current                                                                 
      rating level and debt profile                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef Discusses, but doesn't define, a capacity for short-                                                            
      term debt                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      .notdef The 2024-2025 analysis determined that the State had                                                            
      a debt capacity of approximately $1,625 million                                                                           
      Adjustments made to base analysis to account for                                                                          
      recognition of a POMV split for PFDs vs state budget,                                                                     
      recognition of special funding for PERS/TRS and future                                                                    
      budget uncertainty and volatility in the State's                                                                          
      revenue sources                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Secretary    Note:  Mr.   Williams   stated   the   state's   debt                                                             
capacity   at approximately    $1.6  billion  and  not  million   as                                                            
noted on the slide.]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  asked  Commissioner   Crum  if  he  had  closing                                                             
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:04:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADAM   CRUM,   COMMISSIONER,     DEPARTMENT    OF   REVENUE,   (via                                                             
teleconference),   commented   that  it  had been  an  active  year                                                             
in  the capital  markets.   He reported  that  the  state's  recent                                                             
activity  had  saved  the state  money  and  enhanced  the  overall                                                             
economic   market.   He  commended   the  debt  manager   and  debt                                                             
team for its hard work.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster   reviewed    the  agenda   for   the   afternoon                                                             
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:06:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
State Debt Summary and Credit Review H.FIN 05.01.25.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 9:00:00 AM