Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

02/13/2025 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:04:07 AM Presentation: Medicaid 101
10:31:15 AM Adjourn
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 13, 2025                                                                                          
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson called the House Finance Committee                                                                           
meeting to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Emily Ricci, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Health; Deb                                                                    
Etheridge,   Director,   Division  of   Public   Assistance,                                                                    
Department  of Health;  Tony Newman,  Director, Division  of                                                                    
Senior  and  Disabilities  Services, Department  of  Health;                                                                    
Tracy  Dompeling, Director,  Division of  Behavioral Health,                                                                    
Department of Health.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: MEDICAID 101                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: MEDICAID 101                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:04:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  RICCI,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH,                                                                    
introduced herself.  She noted that  she would be  joined at                                                                    
other  points in  the presentation  by  her colleagues.  She                                                                    
introduced  the   PowerPoint  presentation   "Medicaid  101:                                                                    
Understanding Alaska's Medicaid  Program" dated February 13,                                                                    
2025 (copy on file).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci continued  on slide 2 and  explained that Alaska's                                                                    
Medicaid  program  was  a critical  component  of  both  the                                                                    
state's healthcare delivery system  and its broader economy.                                                                    
Each year,  Alaska Medicaid paid approximately  $2.8 billion                                                                    
in  combined  state  and federal  funds  to  support  health                                                                    
services  throughout the  state.  The  funds were  disbursed                                                                    
across   the  health   care  system,   including  hospitals,                                                                    
community clinics,  primary care providers,  pharmacies, and                                                                    
emergency room  physicians. She  relayed that  Medicaid also                                                                    
supported  services  that  helped seniors  remain  in  their                                                                    
homes and  communities, which  reduced seniors'  reliance on                                                                    
institutional care.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  stated that the  Division of  Healthcare Services                                                                    
(DHS)  distributed approximately  $252  million in  provider                                                                    
payments each  week, which amounted to  roughly $8.5 million                                                                    
in annual  claims paid  to more  than 31,000  providers. She                                                                    
emphasized that  Medicaid coverage extended to  over 246,000                                                                    
Alaskans  and  was  a significant  contributor  to  Alaska's                                                                    
economic vitality.  In 2023, the state's  health care sector                                                                    
generated  $3.4  billion  in  wages  and  accounted  for  11                                                                    
percent  of the  workforce.  She thanked  the committee  for                                                                    
spending time on Medicaid and hearing the presentation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:06:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked how much  of the $2.8 billion in                                                                    
annual Medicaid expenditures was  derived from federal funds                                                                    
as compared to state funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that the  breakdown would  be discussed                                                                    
further on  upcoming slides.  She stated  that approximately                                                                    
$700 million came  from the state's general  fund, while the                                                                    
remaining amount was covered by federal contributions.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  continued to  slide 3  and relayed  that Medicaid                                                                    
was one of  the largest public health  insurance programs in                                                                    
the country.  She shared that nearly  79 million individuals                                                                    
across the  United States  were enrolled  in Medicaid  as of                                                                    
October  of  2024, which  represented  roughly  one in  four                                                                    
Americans.  In  Alaska, the  figure  was  closer to  one  in                                                                    
three.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  advanced to slide  4 and explained  that Medicaid                                                                    
played  a particularly  essential  role  in long-term  care,                                                                    
accounting  for 44  percent of  all  payments for  long-term                                                                    
care  services  nationwide.  The  program  also  represented                                                                    
nearly 18 percent of national  health care expenditures. She                                                                    
noted that  Medicaid was  a joint  federal and  state health                                                                    
insurance program  designed to serve  low-income individuals                                                                    
and  families.  Eligible  groups  included  pregnant  women,                                                                    
children,  the elderly,  individuals with  disabilities, and                                                                    
other  low-income  adults.   While  Medicaid  was  federally                                                                    
regulated, states  retained flexibility in  Medicaid program                                                                    
design  including  which   populations  were  covered,  what                                                                    
services   were   included,   and  how   the   program   was                                                                    
administered.  She explained  that Alaska  operated under  a                                                                    
fee-for-service  model,  where   providers  were  reimbursed                                                                    
individually for  each service  rendered. Many  other states                                                                    
used a  managed care  model, in  which the  state contracted                                                                    
with  insurance  companies  to  administer  care  through  a                                                                    
network of providers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:08:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Tomaszewski   asked    for   clarification                                                                    
regarding  the cost  comparison between  fee-for-service and                                                                    
managed  care models.  He asked  which  model was  generally                                                                    
less expensive and asked about the pros and cons of each.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that managed care  systems more closely                                                                    
resembled  commercial  or employer-sponsored  insurance.  In                                                                    
those  models,  the  states   paid  a  contracted  insurance                                                                    
company  to   establish  a  provider  network   and  deliver                                                                    
services.  In  contrast,   Alaska's  fee-for-service  system                                                                    
meant that  DHS paid  providers directly upon  submission of                                                                    
claims. She explained that Alaska  was paying physicians and                                                                    
health care systems directly for Medicaid services.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked which  type of  system was                                                                    
generally less expensive.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci replied  that cost  comparisons  between the  two                                                                    
systems  were complex  due to  inherent differences  in each                                                                    
state's  population,  service   availability,  and  delivery                                                                    
costs.  For instance,  Alaska's higher  overall health  care                                                                    
costs likely influenced  per capita expenditures, regardless                                                                    
of the  system used. Managed care  organizations might cover                                                                    
a different  range of services than  fee-for-service systems                                                                    
which made direct comparisons  difficult. She indicated that                                                                    
there were  both advantages and disadvantages  to each model                                                                    
and that fee-for-service systems  allowed for greater direct                                                                    
control  over how  services were  paid,  while managed  care                                                                    
organizations   could   potentially    offer   better   care                                                                    
coordination  or   more  comprehensive   service  offerings.                                                                    
However, she  noted that managed care  arrangements included                                                                    
a  profit  margin  that did  not  exist  in  fee-for-service                                                                    
models.  She  reiterated  that  Alaska  did  not  operate  a                                                                    
managed   care  organization   within  its   state  Medicaid                                                                    
program. However, when she spoke  with Medicaid directors in                                                                    
other states, she found that  many states implemented small-                                                                    
scale  managed  care   components  while  still  maintaining                                                                    
significant fee-for-service elements.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked whether  medical providers                                                                    
were  generally  satisfied  with  the fees  paid  under  the                                                                    
current  system. He  asked if  hospitals and  providers were                                                                    
content  with the  structure in  place  for the  negotiation                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci   responded  that  medical  providers   were  not                                                                    
consistently  satisfied with  the  fees established  through                                                                    
the  Medicaid   program.  She  stated   that  part   of  the                                                                    
dissatisfaction  was related  to the  overall design  of the                                                                    
health  care  delivery  system  and  the  insurance  market.                                                                    
Public  payers  such  as  Medicare  and  Medicaid  typically                                                                    
operated on  a fee schedule with  lower reimbursement rates.                                                                    
In  contrast, commercial  insurers  often negotiated  higher                                                                    
rates.  The  dynamic  led to  cost-shifting  between  public                                                                    
programs  and  private  insurers. When  providers  expressed                                                                    
concern about  Medicaid or Medicare rates,  it was typically                                                                    
due to  the perception  that commercial payers  offered more                                                                    
favorable reimbursement,  which prompted providers  to shift                                                                    
costs  to  those  payers to  offset  financial  losses  from                                                                    
public  reimbursements.  The  department was  aware  of  the                                                                    
concerns  and  was  working  to   address  them  within  the                                                                    
limitations  of the  state budget.  She  explained that  the                                                                    
department  was  presently  engaged in  a  rate  methodology                                                                    
review  to  assess  how Medicaid  reimbursement  rates  were                                                                    
established across service  categories and determine whether                                                                    
the rates supported the desired  outcomes in the health care                                                                    
delivery system.                                                                                                                
9:14:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson asked  for confirmation that Medicaid                                                                    
federal funds were still administered by the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded in the affirmative.  She indicated that                                                                    
a future slide would explain  how the Medicaid funding cycle                                                                    
operated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson remarked that  one of the most common                                                                    
complaints she received from  constituents related to delays                                                                    
in Medicaid  payments to providers.  She explained  that the                                                                    
delays negatively  impacted both health care  businesses and                                                                    
access  to  care. She  asked  for  more information  on  how                                                                    
Medicaid's  payment timeline  compared  to  that of  private                                                                    
insurance. She also wondered  whether recent cyberattacks on                                                                    
the   state's  computer   systems   had  affected   Medicaid                                                                    
operations or payment systems.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that the  department received  reports                                                                    
from providers  who experienced delays  in payment  or claim                                                                    
processing.  She   emphasized  that  it  was   important  to                                                                    
consider  the issues  in the  context  of approximately  8.5                                                                    
million claims  that were  processed annually.  Although the                                                                    
overall system  managed a high volume  of claims, individual                                                                    
provider   concerns  remained   significant  and   warranted                                                                    
attention.  The  department   worked  to  determine  whether                                                                    
reported issues  were part of broader  system-wide trends or                                                                    
were  isolated incidents  specific to  individual providers.                                                                    
She  provided an  example  involving claims  clearinghouses,                                                                    
where  errors could  occur if  the  clearinghouse failed  to                                                                    
transmit  provider-submitted information  into the  Medicaid                                                                    
Management  Information System  (MMIS).  In  such cases,  it                                                                    
might  appear  that the  issue  resided  within the  state's                                                                    
Medicaid payment  system, but the  root cause  was external.                                                                    
She  noted that  identifying  and resolving  these types  of                                                                    
issues  could  be  highly  complex.  She  relayed  that  the                                                                    
department would  return to the  committee later in  the day                                                                    
to present a set of  proposed IT changes intended to address                                                                    
some  of  the  known  systemic challenges  in  the  Medicaid                                                                    
program.  She  shared  that a  Medicaid  modernization  plan                                                                    
would be  built out over  the next several years  to improve                                                                    
infrastructure,  leverage automation,  and result  in better                                                                    
service for providers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  understood that based on  the earlier                                                                    
explanation of managed  care versus fee-for-service, managed                                                                    
care appeared similar to  a health maintenance organization.                                                                    
She suggested  that such a  model would only be  feasible in                                                                    
areas with  a sufficient  number of providers  available for                                                                    
network   participation.   She    noted   limited   provider                                                                    
availability   and   restricted   access   were   persistent                                                                    
challenges  across   the  state.   She  asked   whether  her                                                                    
understanding  was  correct  and  whether  Alaska's  limited                                                                    
provider landscape  effectively made the managed  care model                                                                    
unworkable considering that many  services were offered by a                                                                    
single provider.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that  while managed  care organizations                                                                    
could be structured as  health maintenance organizations, it                                                                    
was  not  a requirement.  She  stated  that a  managed  care                                                                    
organization could  be designed in  a manner similar  to the                                                                    
health  insurance  plans  offered   to  state  employees  or                                                                    
retirees,  which  did  not  operate  as  health  maintenance                                                                    
organizations. She  explained that when pooling  risk across                                                                    
a  population,  it  was  essential   to  consider  how  many                                                                    
providers would  participate in the network  and whether the                                                                    
size of the  population pool would be  sufficient to sustain                                                                    
the   risk.   She   acknowledged  that   participation   had                                                                    
historically   presented   a   challenge  in   Alaska.   The                                                                    
legislature had reviewed the feasibility  of managed care at                                                                    
several points over  the previous ten years  and despite the                                                                    
considerations, the  state had remained within  the fee-for-                                                                    
service model.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  whether  cost  shifting was  a                                                                    
factor in  making Medicaid services financially  viable. She                                                                    
suggested that  Medicaid patients became more  affordable to                                                                    
treat when providers charged more  to private payers such as                                                                    
Aetna  and Blue  Cross Blue  Shield. She  stated that  while                                                                    
treating   Medicaid  patients   might  yield   lower  profit                                                                    
margins,  providers   were  not  obligated  to   accept  the                                                                    
patients unless they voluntarily enrolled in the program.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that providers  that  enrolled in  the                                                                    
Medicaid  program agreed  to accept  Medicaid patients.  She                                                                    
stated  that  there was  typically  a  mix of  reimbursement                                                                    
rates  from different  payers in  any health  care business.                                                                    
Even within  the commercial  insurance market,  payers often                                                                    
reimbursed at varying rates. Public  payers such as Medicare                                                                    
and  Medicaid  generally  reimbursed  at  lower  rates  than                                                                    
commercial  insurers.  She   explained  that  many  Medicaid                                                                    
reimbursement rates in Alaska were  based on cost. The rates                                                                    
were calculated using cost reports  submitted to the Centers                                                                    
for Medicare  and Medicaid Services (CMS)  by providers. The                                                                    
state then  applied a set  percentage to the  reported costs                                                                    
to  determine the  final  Medicaid  reimbursement rate.  The                                                                    
structure  made  the  relationship  between  actual  service                                                                    
costs and Medicaid fees complex to evaluate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  relayed that  her  colleague  would now  provide                                                                    
information on Medicaid eligibility.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:20:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB  ETHERIDGE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  PUBLIC  ASSISTANCE,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH, continued  the presentation  on slide                                                                    
5.  She explained  that the  Division  of Public  Assistance                                                                    
(DPA)  played  a critical  role  in  ensuring that  eligible                                                                    
Alaskans had access to healthcare.  She stated that Alaskans                                                                    
had  multiple  options for  applying  for  Medicaid and  the                                                                    
division  aimed  to  ensure   accessibility  by  offering  a                                                                    
variety  of  application  methods. Individuals  could  apply                                                                    
online through  the MyAlaska  portal, through  the federally                                                                    
facilitated  marketplace  at healthcare.gov,  by  contacting                                                                    
the  virtual contact  center  by phone,  by  visiting a  DPA                                                                    
office  to  meet  with  an  eligibility  technician,  or  by                                                                    
working with a fee agent  in rural areas. She explained that                                                                    
fee  agents   in  rural  locations  could   help  applicants                                                                    
complete the  application process and receive  an interview.                                                                    
The division  also accepted Medicaid  applications submitted                                                                    
by mail or by fax.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge explained  that once  a Medicaid  application                                                                    
was submitted, DPA made  eligibility determinations based on                                                                    
two  specific   categories.  The  first   category  included                                                                    
individuals  who qualified  for disability-related  Medicaid                                                                    
and included  individuals who  were age 65  or older,  had a                                                                    
disability, or received  Supplemental Security Income (SSI).                                                                    
The group  also included individuals who  received Medicare,                                                                    
lived  in a  nursing home  or assisted  living facility,  or                                                                    
received   home   and   community-based   waiver   services.                                                                    
Eligibility  for disability-related  Medicaid  was based  on                                                                    
income limits, which varied depending  on household size and                                                                    
living situation.  Additionally, applicants in  the category                                                                    
were subject  to a  resource test. If  an individual  with a                                                                    
disability  exceeded  pre-determined  resource  limits,  the                                                                    
division  also   evaluated  whether  the   individual  could                                                                    
instead  qualify   under  the   second  major   category  of                                                                    
eligibility known as Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Etheridge explained that MAGI  was the larger of the two                                                                    
categories  and  applied  to low-income  children,  pregnant                                                                    
women, families, and  adults aged 19 to 64 who  did not have                                                                    
dependent  children. Eligibility  under MAGI  was determined                                                                    
based  on household  size  and  income following  guidelines                                                                    
established by  the Internal  Revenue Service  (IRS). Unlike                                                                    
disability-related   Medicaid,  MAGI   did  not   include  a                                                                    
resource test.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge relayed  that DPA  played a  central role  in                                                                    
verifying Medicaid eligibility,  regardless of the category.                                                                    
The division used electronic  data sources whenever possible                                                                    
to streamline the  verification process. However, applicants                                                                    
were  still  required  to  meet  all  eligibility  criteria,                                                                    
including financial requirements.  The requirements included                                                                    
income and,  in some  cases, asset  tests, along  with other                                                                    
program-specific  limits.  Additional  eligibility  criteria                                                                    
included  proof  of  citizenship or  qualifying  immigration                                                                    
status, possession  of a valid  Social Security  number, and                                                                    
assignment  of  rights,  which meant  that  applicants  were                                                                    
required  to permit  Medicaid to  recover  costs from  other                                                                    
sources such  as private  insurance. Some  Medicaid programs                                                                    
also  imposed  limits  on   assets,  including  savings  and                                                                    
property  ownership.  Once  all required  documentation  was                                                                    
submitted, the  division issued  a written  determination of                                                                    
approval or  denial. Adequate notice  was provided  in cases                                                                    
of  denial, and  all  individuals were  entitled  to a  fair                                                                    
hearing. Approved  individuals were required to  renew their                                                                    
eligibility  annually. She  relayed  that  the division  was                                                                    
currently using an ex parte process for renewals.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge explained  that under  the ex  parte process,                                                                    
the division initiated  a review 60 days  before the renewal                                                                    
due  date. During  the review  period, the  division checked                                                                    
available electronic  resources to verify  Alaska residency,                                                                    
income, and other eligibility criteria.  If the division was                                                                    
able  to   verify  eligibility,  it   automatically  renewed                                                                    
coverage  for an  additional year.  If verification  was not                                                                    
possible, the division sent a  shortened renewal form to the                                                                    
applicant  to complete  and return.  The division  processed                                                                    
the  renewal upon  receipt of  the form.  She stressed  that                                                                    
Medicaid benefits continued  throughout the renewal process.                                                                    
The division also  provided at least ten  days' notice prior                                                                    
to  taking any  negative  action. She  stated  that a  well-                                                                    
structured   Medicaid    system   ensured    that   eligible                                                                    
individuals  could  apply  for, qualify  for,  and  maintain                                                                    
coverage  without unnecessary  barriers.  She affirmed  that                                                                    
the division  was working toward  a system  that effectively                                                                    
served those  in need  while maintaining  accountability and                                                                    
program integrity.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:26:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  about  the difference  between                                                                    
Medicaid  eligibility  for  children  aged zero  to  one  as                                                                    
compared to children  aged zero to six.  She understood that                                                                    
the  governor  had  recently  made  a  change  allowing  for                                                                    
coverage specifically  for children in  the zero to  one age                                                                    
group.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that the  relevant change  was in  the                                                                    
postpartum extension  bill [SB 58  passed into law  in 2023]                                                                    
that had  been passed  by the legislature.  She acknowledged                                                                    
and  appreciated legislative  support  for  the bill,  which                                                                    
extended Medicaid  coverage for mothers who  had given birth                                                                    
from the  previous limit  of 60  days after  birth to  a new                                                                    
coverage period of 12 months.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  for  clarification on  whether                                                                    
the extended  coverage applied  to both  the mother  and the                                                                    
child, or only to the mother.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci replied  that the  change only  affected coverage                                                                    
for  the  mother.  She  explained that  there  had  been  no                                                                    
changes  to Medicaid  enrollment eligibility  for the  child                                                                    
because  the   child  was  already  eligible   for  Medicaid                                                                    
coverage for the first year of life.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  whether  other states  offered                                                                    
Medicaid coverage for children beyond age one.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded  that children in other  states could be                                                                    
eligible for  Medicaid beyond age  one, depending  on income                                                                    
thresholds  or other  categorical eligibility  criteria. She                                                                    
reiterated that  the general structure  had not  changed and                                                                    
that  children in  other states  remained eligible  based on                                                                    
other state's policies.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if  children from birth  to age                                                                    
one  were  also  required  to meet  a  specific  eligibility                                                                    
threshold.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge responded  that  coverage  for children  aged                                                                    
zero  to   one  fell   under  the  category   of  continuous                                                                    
eligibility. If a mother was  receiving Medicaid benefits at                                                                    
the time of  the child's birth, the  child was automatically                                                                    
eligible for  Medicaid. She added that  some states operated                                                                    
under Section  1115 demonstration  waivers that  allowed for                                                                    
the extension of continuous  eligibility for children beyond                                                                    
the age of one.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  if whether  Alaska was unique  in not                                                                    
extending  continuous eligibility  for  children beyond  age                                                                    
one. She wondered if other  states had adopted such policies                                                                    
and if there  was any available information  on the outcomes                                                                    
of any similar efforts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that several  other states  had pursued                                                                    
Section 1115 waivers in order  to extend continuous Medicaid                                                                    
enrollment for children beyond age  one. She understood that                                                                    
fewer than ten  states had applied for the  waivers. She did                                                                    
not know if the waivers had taken effect yet.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:30:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci continued  on slide  6  which addressed  Medicaid                                                                    
services  in Alaska  statute. She  reiterated that  Medicaid                                                                    
was  a joint  federal  and state  program  and the  services                                                                    
covered  by  the Medicaid  program  were  guided by  federal                                                                    
requirements  and  outlined  in Alaska  state  statute.  She                                                                    
relayed that AS 47.07.030  defined covered Medicaid services                                                                    
and  identified  two  categories   of  services.  The  first                                                                    
category consisted  of mandatory services, which  Alaska was                                                                    
required to  cover under  Title XIX  of the  Social Security                                                                    
Act.  The second  category consisted  of optional  services,                                                                    
which were listed in state  statute but were not required by                                                                    
federal  law. However,  she noted  that  referring to  these                                                                    
services as  "optional" could  be misleading.  Changes under                                                                    
the Affordable  Care Act (ACA),  which took effect  in 2010,                                                                    
had  rendered some  services mandatory  that were  listed as                                                                    
optional  in  Alaska. Additionally,  expectations  regarding                                                                    
health  insurance coverage  and  the  factors that  affected                                                                    
individual health  status had evolved since  the statute was                                                                    
originally written. She explained  that many of the services                                                                    
listed as optional had become mandatory.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci relayed that some  examples of services considered                                                                    
optional  under state  statute  included prescription  drugs                                                                    
and emergency hospital services.  She noted that if Alaska's                                                                    
Medicaid  program had  not covered  prescription drugs,  the                                                                    
system  would likely  have experienced  significantly higher                                                                    
rates  of  emergency room  visits.  She  stressed that  some                                                                    
services remained technically optional  in statute, but were                                                                    
effectively  necessary   due  to  both   federal  regulatory                                                                    
requirements and  the realities of the  health care delivery                                                                    
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for more  information about                                                                    
the  potential cuts  to Medicaid.  He understood  there were                                                                    
ongoing  national discussions  about possible  reductions of                                                                    
trillions   of  dollars.   He   asked   whether  a   federal                                                                    
administration could  reduce funding for  mandatory services                                                                    
and if DOH had sought  a legal opinion. He acknowledged that                                                                    
the  topic  had  also  been raised  in  a  subcommittee.  He                                                                    
stressed that the funds needed  to remain available in order                                                                    
for  the  state  to  continue  providing  services  to  over                                                                    
200,000 Alaskans.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci   replied  that   the  department   was  actively                                                                    
monitoring  federal  discussions  related  to  Medicaid  and                                                                    
other health  care programs. She  explained that  all states                                                                    
routinely  tracked the  developments because  of the  direct                                                                    
relationship   between   federal    decisions   and   state-                                                                    
administered  Medicaid  programs.   She  confirmed  that  no                                                                    
specific  federal  proposals  related to  the  reduction  of                                                                    
funds had been  introduced. She relayed that  DOH would work                                                                    
with Department of Law (DOL)  and other relevant entities to                                                                    
assess potential impacts on Alaska's Medicaid program.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked whether the state  had experienced                                                                    
any  delays or  disruptions  in the  transfer  of funds  for                                                                    
Medicaid  recipients.  He  asked   if  there  had  been  any                                                                    
noticeable  concerns or  slowdowns in  the flow  of payments                                                                    
through MMIS.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  confirmed that  there had been  no delays  in the                                                                    
flow of federal Medicaid payments.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:34:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci advanced  to slide 7 and  reiterated that Medicaid                                                                    
was a joint  federal and state program.  The joint structure                                                                    
allowed states  some flexibility in designing  and operating                                                                    
Medicaid systems;  however, the designs were  first required                                                                    
to  be  approved  by  CMS. She  directed  attention  to  the                                                                    
diagram on the  slide depicting the process  of federal fund                                                                    
flow.  She   explained  that  DOH  first   communicated  its                                                                    
projected claims  costs for  a given  period to  the federal                                                                    
government.   Based   on   the  projections,   the   federal                                                                    
government authorized  the state  to expend  a corresponding                                                                    
amount. The  authorization was not an  immediate transfer of                                                                    
funds  but   rather  a   preliminary  agreement.   Once  the                                                                    
authorization was  in place, the  state paid providers  on a                                                                    
weekly basis  as claims were  submitted. She noted  that the                                                                    
state's weekly  Medicaid expenditures  totaled approximately                                                                    
$52  million.  After  processing  the  payments,  the  state                                                                    
submitted  a  report  of  the  actual  expenditures  to  the                                                                    
federal   government   and   subsequently  drew   down   the                                                                    
corresponding funds to reconcile the payments.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci clarified  that the  diagram  represented only  a                                                                    
portion of the complex  and ongoing interactions between DOH                                                                    
and   CMS.  Providers   were  permitted   to  submit   claim                                                                    
corrections  or adjustments  for up  to two  years following                                                                    
the  original  claim  submission  or  payment,  which  added                                                                    
further  complexity  to   Medicaid  fiscal  management.  The                                                                    
states  also individually  managed Medicaid  eligibility and                                                                    
enrollment processes,  enrollment of providers,  and service                                                                    
delivery. She indicated that the  legislature played a vital                                                                    
role  by   approving  the   optional  services   covered  by                                                                    
Medicaid,  authorizing  the  use   of  waiver  services  for                                                                    
certain  programs,  and   defining  the  eligibility  groups                                                                    
included in Medicaid coverage.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  asked   for  specific  documentation                                                                    
outlining  what  the  federal  government  funded  for  each                                                                    
program, including descriptions and dollar amounts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that she  would follow  up in  writing                                                                    
with  a breakdown  of federal  versus state  expenditures by                                                                    
service category.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard emphasized  that she  did not  need a                                                                    
comparison,  but instead  wanted  specific  details on  what                                                                    
federal funds  supported which programs, along  with program                                                                    
descriptions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci confirmed that she would provide the information.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci continued  on slide  8 and  explained that  a key                                                                    
component  of  the  Medicaid  program   was  the  method  of                                                                    
financing,  which involved  joint funding  from the  federal                                                                    
and  state  governments.  The federal  share  of  costs  was                                                                    
determined  by  the  Federal Medical  Assistance  Percentage                                                                    
(FMAP). She  relayed that the  federal match  was calculated                                                                    
annually  for   each  state  and   the  minimum   match  was                                                                    
established each  year. The chart  on the right side  of the                                                                    
slide  detailed  different  FMAP   rates  based  on  various                                                                    
eligibility  categories.  She  explained that  the  category                                                                    
labeled as  "regular Medicaid" was the  lowest federal share                                                                    
provided for services. At a  minimum, the federal government                                                                    
funded  50  percent  of  Medicaid  program  costs,  but  the                                                                    
federal  match  could  be  higher  dependent  upon  specific                                                                    
economic  conditions. The  regular  Medicaid  match rate  in                                                                    
Alaska was  51.54 percent, but  different types  of services                                                                    
received  different federal  match rates.  For example,  the                                                                    
51.54  percent  rate  was  the  lowest  match  for  standard                                                                    
Medicaid  services,   while  services  provided   to  tribal                                                                    
members through tribal health  organizations qualified for a                                                                    
100   percent    federal   match.   She    emphasized   that                                                                    
understanding the differences  was important when evaluating                                                                    
the Medicaid budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked  how accurately individuals                                                                    
were categorized  to ensure proper federal  match rates were                                                                    
applied.   He  wondered   if   the  department   encountered                                                                    
challenges  in assigning  individuals to  the correct  match                                                                    
category.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that enrollment was  determined through                                                                    
income-based eligibility  or categorical  eligibility, which                                                                    
was  tracked and  linked to  claims  data. Individuals  were                                                                    
categorized  based  on  their  enrollment  in  the  Medicaid                                                                    
program.  She acknowledged  that system  errors could  occur                                                                    
and DPA was  actively addressing the issues.  She added that                                                                    
auditors   reviewed   the   accuracy  of   eligibility   and                                                                    
enrollment  data  on an  annual  basis.  She explained  that                                                                    
additional coordination  was required for individuals  to be                                                                    
eligible  for the  100 percent  match through  Indian Health                                                                    
Services (IHS). She noted that  Medicaid services might also                                                                    
be  delivered  outside  the   tribal  health  system,  which                                                                    
required careful  tracking and verification. If  there was a                                                                    
care  coordination  agreement   between  the  tribal  health                                                                    
system  and  the  external provider,  the  department  could                                                                    
attempt  to  recoup a  100  percent  federal match  for  any                                                                    
Medicaid funds  that had been  expended. She  explained that                                                                    
the recouping  process had been  a significant  component of                                                                    
the Medicaid  system since it  became available in  2018 and                                                                    
had saved approximately $138 million  in general funds in FY                                                                    
24.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski   commented  that   the  current                                                                    
process  seemed  to  occur  after  funds  had  already  been                                                                    
expended.  He  asked  if  there  was  any  way  to  be  more                                                                    
proactive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that for  the vast majority of services,                                                                    
the  estimated  federal  match  was  tied  directly  to  the                                                                    
individual's  categorical or  income  eligibility status  at                                                                    
the time  of enrollment in  the program. She  clarified that                                                                    
additional  administrative   work  might  be   required  for                                                                    
certain IHS services to receive the full federal match.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:43:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan understood that  IHS had been expanded                                                                    
in many communities  and IHS facilities were  often the only                                                                    
available providers in some areas.  She asked whether a non-                                                                    
tribal  citizen  receiving care  at  an  IHS facility  would                                                                    
still result in  the state receiving the  regular 51 percent                                                                    
federal match  under Medicaid, rather  than the  100 percent                                                                    
match.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  if the  expansion of  IHS into                                                                    
new  areas created  complications for  Medicaid delivery  to                                                                    
non-tribal citizens.  She noted  that organizations  such as                                                                    
SouthEast  Alaska Regional  Health  Consortium (SEARHC)  had                                                                    
established  new facilities  and she  wondered if  the shift                                                                    
caused challenges  due to the change  in reimbursement rates                                                                    
between tribal and non-tribal recipients.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci   responded  that  the  reimbursement   rate  was                                                                    
determined by  the state.  She explained  that there  was no                                                                    
change   in   the   billing  process   for   tribal   health                                                                    
organizations.  She  indicated  that an  organization  would                                                                    
submit  a  claim  to  Medicaid  and  the  state  would  then                                                                    
identify whether  the individual qualified for  a 51 percent                                                                    
match  percentage,  90  percent match,  or  another  federal                                                                    
match percentage.  She noted that complications  could arise                                                                    
due  to  differences in  how  tribal  and non-tribal  health                                                                    
organizations  were  reimbursed.   She  explained  that  the                                                                    
Medicaid program paid different  amounts to tribal providers                                                                    
and  to non-tribal  providers,  which  affected the  overall                                                                    
funding structure.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  for   more  information  about  the                                                                    
potential impacts  to hub hospitals that  currently received                                                                    
a 100  percent federal match  under FMAP, such as  SEARHC in                                                                    
Juneau, Norton Sound Health Corporation  in Nome, and Yukon-                                                                    
Kuskokwim Health  Corporation in  Bethel. He noted  that the                                                                    
facilities  served a  high percentage  of tribally  enrolled                                                                    
individuals  and asked  whether  a hypothetical  cut in  the                                                                    
federal match  would significantly impact the  providers. He                                                                    
thought  the  possibility  of the  match  being  reduced  to                                                                    
around 50 percent was alarming.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that the  federal match accrued  to the                                                                    
state  and  the Medicaid  program  paid  the Medicaid  rates                                                                    
directly  to  the  provider  and the  state  drew  down  the                                                                    
appropriate   federal   match.   She  explained   that   the                                                                    
difference  between a  100 percent  match and  a 50  percent                                                                    
federal match reflected the impact  on state dollars used to                                                                    
cover  the  services. The  state  paid  the same  amount  to                                                                    
providers  regardless   of  the  federal  match   rate.  The                                                                    
variation in  the federal match  simply determined  how much                                                                    
federal funding  the state  could draw  down to  support the                                                                    
payments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  remarked that if  there was a  reduction in                                                                    
the  federal  match  rate,  the result  would  either  be  a                                                                    
reduction  in services  or a  requirement for  the state  to                                                                    
cover  a greater  share  of costs.  He  emphasized that  the                                                                    
state  already  faced  financial  challenges  and  increased                                                                    
costs was an important issue.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:47:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if the 100  percent FMAP match                                                                    
on slide 8  meant that the service was fully  covered by the                                                                    
federal government and the state  did not contribute through                                                                    
a shared match.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that  under a  100  percent FMAP,  the                                                                    
federal government  reimbursed the state for  100 percent of                                                                    
the claim  amount paid  for services.  She clarified  that a                                                                    
51.54 percent match meant  the federal government reimbursed                                                                    
51.54 percent of the cost  for services provided to eligible                                                                    
individuals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  advanced  to  slide  9  and  explained  that  an                                                                    
important  component   of  the  Medicaid  program   was  the                                                                    
Medicaid State Plan. She repeated  that Medicaid was a joint                                                                    
federal and  state program and  that the plan served  as the                                                                    
formal agreement  between Alaska and CMS.  The plan outlined                                                                    
key  program   elements,  including   eligibility  criteria,                                                                    
covered  services,   provider  reimbursement   methods,  and                                                                    
program administration  processes. The  plan was  subject to                                                                    
federal guidelines,  but states  still had  some flexibility                                                                    
in how they implemented the  program. The plan served as the                                                                    
framework  for   how  the   state  and   federal  government                                                                    
structured Medicaid  in Alaska  and was  publicly accessible                                                                    
to ensure transparency.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ricci  emphasized   that  any   proposed  changes   to                                                                    
eligibility,  covered  services, administrative  procedures,                                                                    
or  reimbursement  rates  generally required  a  state  plan                                                                    
amendment  (SPA).   She  explained  that  the   SPA  process                                                                    
involved  submitting a  formal amendment  request to  CMS to                                                                    
authorize a  change that  the state  found to  be reasonable                                                                    
and compliant with federal requirements.  She noted that the                                                                    
process included public and  tribal consultation periods and                                                                    
followed a strict procedural framework.  She relayed that it                                                                    
was  essential  that  all Medicaid  services  be  authorized                                                                    
either  through  the  state plan  or  a  federally  approved                                                                    
waiver.  Services  that  were not  authorized  through  such                                                                    
channels were not eligible for a federal match.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:50:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson relayed  that  he was  alarmed when  the                                                                    
administration  was proposing  removing dental  coverage for                                                                    
Medicaid recipients in around  2019. He understood that some                                                                    
legislatures had  the authority to  act as a check  on SPAs.                                                                    
He  noted that  there  was a  conference  in Anchorage  that                                                                    
included participation  from the insurance  industry, health                                                                    
care  providers, and  other stakeholders.  He asked  whether                                                                    
the governor had  the full authority to  make adjustments to                                                                    
the  Medicaid   state  plan  without  any   input  from  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci responded  that Alaska's  legislature had  a more                                                                    
substantial role  in the Medicaid program  than legislatures                                                                    
in  many  other  states.  She   explained  that  in  Alaska,                                                                    
statutory authorization  was required before  the department                                                                    
could  pursue waivers  for Medicaid  services,  which was  a                                                                    
level of legislative  involvement that did not  exist in all                                                                    
states. She added that the  department routinely updated and                                                                    
adjusted   the  state   plan  in   the   normal  course   of                                                                    
administering a  health insurance  program. The  updates did                                                                    
not  typically  require  legislative or  statutory  changes.                                                                    
However, the  department could not add  new services, expand                                                                    
eligibility,  or  implement  similar changes  without  first                                                                    
obtaining  statutory  authority  from the  legislature.  She                                                                    
reiterated that  such a high level  of legislative oversight                                                                    
was rare.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked for clarification  on how the state                                                                    
would  add   a  specific  benefit.  He   asked  whether  the                                                                    
legislature  would need  to  pass a  bill  to authorize  the                                                                    
benefit  of  adult  podiatry care,  for  example,  which  he                                                                    
believed  was  not  currently  covered  in  Alaska  but  was                                                                    
covered in other states.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that the  services that could be covered                                                                    
by Medicaid were specified in  state statute, including both                                                                    
mandatory  and optional  services. She  noted that  podiatry                                                                    
was  not among  the optional  services currently  listed for                                                                    
adults in  state statute, meaning that  the department would                                                                    
not have  the authority to  offer coverage without  a change                                                                    
in state law.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked if  the governor could unilaterally                                                                    
request  that  CMS  approve  adult  podiatry  as  a  covered                                                                    
service without legislative approval.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:54:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that because  the department was a state                                                                    
agency, it  operated in accordance  with state  statute. She                                                                    
explained that  a statutory change would  be required before                                                                    
the state  could submit  a request to  CMS to  include adult                                                                    
podiatry  care  in  the Medicaid  program.  She  noted  that                                                                    
whenever   the  state   submitted   an  SPA,   corresponding                                                                    
regulatory changes were often  required. She emphasized that                                                                    
both federal approval and  state regulatory revisions needed                                                                    
to be  considered when  making any  changes to  the Medicaid                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  continued to  slide 10  and relayed  that waivers                                                                    
were an  additional tool for authorizing  Medicaid services.                                                                    
She stated that waivers allowed  states to offer services or                                                                    
implement  delivery  models   not  typically  allowed  under                                                                    
standard  Medicaid rules.  The Medicaid  program included  a                                                                    
wide range of  waivers that were often  referenced by number                                                                    
and letter.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci stated  that  the two  waivers  most relevant  to                                                                    
Alaska's Medicaid  program were the Section  1115 waiver and                                                                    
Section 1915(c) waiver. She noted  that the numbers referred                                                                    
to  specific  authorizing  provisions in  federal  law.  The                                                                    
federal Secretary  of Health and Human  Services could grant                                                                    
permission for states to  implement alternatives to standard                                                                    
Medicaid provisions. She added that  each waiver had its own                                                                    
restrictions  and  the  waivers   were  subject  to  federal                                                                    
requirements.  For   example,  Section   1115  demonstration                                                                    
waivers  had  been  used  in  Alaska  to  expand  access  to                                                                    
behavioral  health  and   substance  use  disorder  services                                                                    
beginning  in  2018.  She  relayed  that  the  Section  1115                                                                    
waivers allowed  states to test new  service delivery models                                                                    
or  offer  services  not   typically  covered  by  Medicaid,                                                                    
provided that  the efforts met the  program's overall goals.                                                                    
She  explained  that  the  waivers  were  required  to  meet                                                                    
specific  conditions and  be deemed  budgetarily neutral  by                                                                    
the federal government. She added  that Section 1115 waivers                                                                    
typically operated for a  five-year demonstration period and                                                                    
were subject to periodic renewal.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  highlighted  that the  Section  1915(c)  program                                                                    
waivers  were listed  on the  right side  of the  slide. She                                                                    
explained  that  the  program  waivers  were  used  to  help                                                                    
individuals remain  in their homes and  communities and were                                                                    
commonly known as home  and community-based waiver services.                                                                    
She noted  that Director  Tracy Dompeling from  the Division                                                                    
of  Behavioral Health  (DBH) and  Director Tony  Newman from                                                                    
the Division  of Senior and Disability  Services (DSDS) each                                                                    
managed waivers within their respective divisions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:57:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TONY NEWMAN,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF SENIOR  AND DISABILITIES                                                                    
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH,  continued on slide  11. He                                                                    
relayed  that DSDS  oversaw the  administration of  Alaska's                                                                    
five  1915(c)  waivers.  He   reiterated  that  the  waivers                                                                    
provided services intended to  help Alaskans remain in their                                                                    
homes   and  communities.   He  stated   that  the   waivers                                                                    
collectively served  approximately 5,500 individuals  in the                                                                    
state.   The  first   waiver   was   the  Individuals   with                                                                    
Intellectual  and Developmental  Disabilities (IDD)  waiver,                                                                    
which  served approximately  2,100  individuals. The  second                                                                    
waiver,  Alaskans  Living  Independently,  primarily  served                                                                    
seniors   who   were  Medicaid-eligible   and   experiencing                                                                    
functional challenges.  The waiver enabled  eligible seniors                                                                    
to live  more independently  and was  the largest  waiver of                                                                    
the  five,  serving  around  2,400  individuals.  The  third                                                                    
waiver,  Children with  Complex  Medical Conditions,  served                                                                    
individuals  under age  22 who  had  severe chronic  medical                                                                    
conditions requiring  care that would otherwise  be provided                                                                    
in  a  hospital  or   nursing  facility.  Approximately  240                                                                    
children and young adults were served under the waiver.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Newman  continued   that   the   fourth  waiver,   the                                                                    
Individualized Supports  waiver, was  introduced in  2018 as                                                                    
part  of Medicaid  reforms.  The  waiver served  individuals                                                                    
with   intellectual  and   developmental  disabilities   and                                                                    
provided   a   reduced   set  of   services   for   eligible                                                                    
participants.  Approximately  600  individuals  were  served                                                                    
through the waiver. The fifth  and final waiver, Adults with                                                                    
Physical and  Developmental Disabilities, served  around 176                                                                    
adults. The  eligible group  often included  individuals who                                                                    
had  aged out  of other  waivers  and met  the nursing  home                                                                    
level  of care  requirement.  He stressed  that the  waivers                                                                    
shared common features although  each waiver served distinct                                                                    
populations. When  an individual  was enrolled in  a waiver,                                                                    
the individual  was granted  access to  a range  of services                                                                    
intended   to  support   independent   living.  There   were                                                                    
approximately  14   types  of  waiver   services  available,                                                                    
ranging from habilitative care,  which could be delivered at                                                                    
home  or  in  an  assisted  living  setting,  to  employment                                                                    
services,  adult  daycare, and  environmental  modifications                                                                    
such as ramps and roll-in  showers. He explained that waiver                                                                    
eligibility required  individuals to qualify for  a Medicaid                                                                    
category determined  by DPA, led by  Director Etheridge, and                                                                    
to meet a level of care requirement assessed by DSDS.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman expressed  that he  appreciated the  legislature                                                                    
for appropriating funds beginning in  FY 24 through FY 26 to                                                                    
modernize the  assessment process.  The division  planned to                                                                    
implement a  new tool  called the  "NRI" that  would support                                                                    
several  long-desired  systemic  improvements  advocated  by                                                                    
stakeholders.  He  noted  that  without  the  waivers,  many                                                                    
individuals  would  have  required  institutional  care.  He                                                                    
reported that  the department  estimated Alaska  would spend                                                                    
over  $1 billion  on institutional  care in  the absence  of                                                                    
waiver  services.  The  availability   of  the  waivers  was                                                                    
projected to  save the state approximately  $600 million and                                                                    
enabled Alaskans to remain in their homes and communities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:01:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   relayed  that   constituents  often                                                                    
reported that  they were on  the IDD waitlist. She  asked if                                                                    
the  waiver  and  the  IDD  waitlists  were  the  same.  She                                                                    
inquired about what  actions needed to be taken  in order to                                                                    
help transition  individuals from  the waitlist  into waiver                                                                    
coverage. She understood that  such transitions would result                                                                    
in cost savings and stronger communities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman  responded the  IDD  waiver  had a  waitlist  of                                                                    
approximately 323  individuals since  late January  of 2025,                                                                    
although the number changed almost  daily. He explained that                                                                    
the legislature had  asked the department to  develop a plan                                                                    
in  2022 estimating  the cost  of eliminating  the waitlist.                                                                    
The  resulting  report  was available  on  the  department's                                                                    
website   and  included   details   on  the   appropriations                                                                    
required. He reiterated that the  department proposed a more                                                                    
cost-effective  approach  that  involved introducing  a  new                                                                    
assessment  tool.  The  overall   cost  of  eliminating  the                                                                    
waitlist could be  reduced if the new tool  was utilized. He                                                                    
clarified  that   the  legislature   had  only   funded  the                                                                    
implementation of  the assessment  tool and  that additional                                                                    
appropriations  would be  required to  provide services  and                                                                    
remove  individuals  from  the   waitlist.  The  costs  were                                                                    
outlined in the report.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  recalled that there was  a discussion in                                                                    
a  subcommittee   that  that  estimated   approximately  $30                                                                    
million would be needed to  eliminate the waitlist. He asked                                                                    
whether  such  an  investment   would  result  in  immediate                                                                    
savings  compared  to the  cost  of  institutional care.  He                                                                    
asked if  immediate cost  savings could  be realized  if the                                                                    
legislature  decided  to   eliminate  the  waitlist  without                                                                    
waiting for  the full implementation  of the  new assessment                                                                    
tool.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman responded  that it  would be  difficult to  make                                                                    
such  a  determination.  He explained  that  the  department                                                                    
prioritized individuals  on the  waitlist based on  level of                                                                    
need  and the  remaining individuals  on the  list typically                                                                    
had  the lowest  level of  identified needs.  He added  that                                                                    
many  of  the  individuals  on  the  waitlist  were  already                                                                    
receiving   services,  often   through   the  more   limited                                                                    
Individualized Supports  waiver that had been  introduced in                                                                    
2018.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin requested  that  the  2022 report  be                                                                    
shared again with the committee.  She explained that she had                                                                    
not  been   in  the  legislature  when   it  was  originally                                                                    
published  and  wanted the  opportunity  to  review it.  She                                                                    
acknowledged  that  the  report  included  significant  cost                                                                    
estimates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Newman  confirmed that the department  would provide the                                                                    
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin then  asked for  more detail  on more                                                                    
limited   services   available  under   the   Individualized                                                                    
Supports  waiver.  She  wanted  to know  what  the  services                                                                    
included,  whether it  helped  reduce  costs elsewhere,  and                                                                    
what the  differences were between the  limited services and                                                                    
the  more  comprehensive   services  available  under  other                                                                    
waivers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman  responded  that  the  key  difference  was  the                                                                    
availability  of   residential  services:  the   IDD  waiver                                                                    
included  residential  services,  while  the  Individualized                                                                    
Supports  waiver  did  not. He  explained  that  residential                                                                    
services  were  among  the   most  intensive  and  expensive                                                                    
offered  through   the  IDD  waiver.   He  noted   that  the                                                                    
Individualized Supports  waiver had been created  in part to                                                                    
reduce  state  spending,  which allowed  the  department  to                                                                    
lower general grant funding.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:06:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  if the  state  currently had  the                                                                    
housing, staff,  and facilities  necessary to  eliminate the                                                                    
waitlist.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Newman responded that it  was a valid concern. He stated                                                                    
that  the availability  of  service providers,  particularly                                                                    
direct  support professionals  (DSP),  would  be a  critical                                                                    
factor in  any effort to  fully eliminate the  waitlist. The                                                                    
waitlist could be eliminated by  offering everyone access to                                                                    
services, but  without the necessary workforce,  there would                                                                    
effectively still be a waitlist.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked how  many  other  states had  a                                                                    
waitlist.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman  responded  that  several  dozen  states  had  a                                                                    
similar waitlist. He mentioned that  his own nephew had been                                                                    
on the waitlist in Pennsylvania for many years.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked what the average  amount of time                                                                    
was that an individual spent on the IDD waitlist in Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Newman replied that the  department had the information,                                                                    
but he would need to follow up.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked whether  there were  waitlists for                                                                    
the other four waiver programs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman  explained  that  the  department  had  recently                                                                    
implemented  a  waitlist  for  the  Individualized  Supports                                                                    
waiver. The waitlist was currently  small as the program was                                                                    
capped at  600 people. At  the moment, about 45  people were                                                                    
on the list.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:08:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  stated "waivers are  savers." He                                                                    
asked whether  the $600  million in  cost savings  listed on                                                                    
slide  11  consisted  of  federal  dollars,  state  dollars,                                                                    
general fund dollars, or a mix.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman responded  that the  amount included  both state                                                                    
and federal dollars.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked whether  the mix of funding                                                                    
depended on the  specific program and how  the breakdown was                                                                    
determined.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Newman  replied  that  the  number  was  calculated  by                                                                    
determining  how  many  people   were  on  each  waiver  and                                                                    
comparing the number with the  average cost of institutional                                                                    
care. The costs  of placing individuals in  nursing homes or                                                                    
other  institutions   for  people  with   disabilities  were                                                                    
compared to the costs  of receiving home and community-based                                                                    
services through a waiver.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked  for the specific breakdown                                                                    
between federal and general fund dollars.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Newman  responded that  the split was  roughly 50  to 51                                                                    
percent federal dollars.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked for confirmation  that the                                                                    
funding fell into the lowest federal matching category.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Newman responded in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:09:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TRACY  DOMPELING, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH, continued  on slide  12 which  was an                                                                    
overview  of  Alaska's  behavioral  health  system  and  the                                                                    
public funds  that supported the system.  She explained that                                                                    
the  system began  undergoing redesign  and  reform in  2016                                                                    
following  the   passage  of  SB  74,   which  required  the                                                                    
department  to   pursue  an  1115  waiver   to  improve  and                                                                    
modernize the  Medicaid behavioral health system  in Alaska.                                                                    
The waiver  also aimed  to increase  overall funding  in the                                                                    
system and  shift it to  more sustainable  sources, allowing                                                                    
federal contributions  to be used  to support  services. The                                                                    
slide showed  the combined funding from  Medicaid and grants                                                                    
supporting the  behavioral health system from  FY 18 through                                                                    
FY 24.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dompeling relayed  that she would begin  by providing an                                                                    
overview  of  the  Medicaid funding  categories.  The  brown                                                                    
sections  of the  slide  represented  state plan  behavioral                                                                    
health services,  with the lighter  brown showing  the state                                                                    
share and  the darker brown  showing the federal  share. She                                                                    
explained that  the blue sections  of the  slide represented                                                                    
the 1115  services, with the  lighter blue  sections showing                                                                    
the state  portion and the  darker blue showing  the federal                                                                    
portion.  She  highlighted  that  the  1115  services  began                                                                    
coming online  in late  FY 20,  starting with  the substance                                                                    
use  disorder  services.  Additional  mental  health-related                                                                    
services were added later in FY 21.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Dompeling   noted  that  the   1115  waiver   had  been                                                                    
bifurcated to separate substance  use disorder services from                                                                    
mental  health   services.  The  separation  was   a  direct                                                                    
response to  the emerging opioid  epidemic in  Alaska, which                                                                    
led to  prioritizing substance use disorder  services first.                                                                    
She relayed  that the  green line  on the  slide represented                                                                    
grant funds  that were appropriated  by the  legislature and                                                                    
distributed by  the division to community  behavioral health                                                                    
providers throughout the  state. The numbers in  bold at the                                                                    
top  of each  column on  the slide  represented the  overall                                                                    
annual  spending from  FY  18 through  FY  24. The  spending                                                                    
increased  by roughly  $120 million  during the  time frame,                                                                    
which was a 48 percent  increase. She explained that much of                                                                    
the  growth  was  due  to the  implementation  of  the  1115                                                                    
demonstration  waiver.  She highlighted  that  demonstration                                                                    
waivers  were time-limited  and  the  initial waiver  lasted                                                                    
five  years.  The  department had  secured  a  renewal  that                                                                    
extended  the  waiver  through   December  31,  2028,  which                                                                    
offered an  opportunity to pursue  amendments to  expand and                                                                    
finetune the waiver to better suit Alaska.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked   whether  the  grant  funding                                                                    
represented  by the  green line  included  federal or  state                                                                    
funds. She  asked why the  amount had  dropped significantly                                                                    
in recent years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dompeling responded that most  of the green line funding                                                                    
came from  federal sources. She explained  that DBH received                                                                    
annual  block  grants  for both  substance  use  and  mental                                                                    
health issues and the federal  funds made up the majority of                                                                    
the  grants. She  added that  the division  could follow  up                                                                    
with a  breakdown of  the state  appropriations contributing                                                                    
to the grants. The decline  in grant funding was largely due                                                                    
to a  shift in the  way in  which services were  funded. For                                                                    
example,  children's  residential services  were  previously                                                                    
funded   through  grants,   but  over   time  the   services                                                                    
transitioned  to  being  covered   under  the  1115  waiver,                                                                    
allowing providers to bill  Medicaid instead. Total spending                                                                    
in  the behavioral  health system  still increased  over the                                                                    
past  seven  fiscal years  despite  the  reduction in  grant                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:14:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum asked  whether the  spending shown  in                                                                    
the   presentation  excluded   funding   from  other   state                                                                    
agencies, such  as the Alaska Mental  Health Trust Authority                                                                    
(AMHTA)   or  the   Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                                    
Development  (DEED),  which  could also  provide  behavioral                                                                    
health services.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dompeling  replied that  the data  primarily represented                                                                    
DBH funding.  She relayed that  there were times  when AMHTA                                                                    
allocated funds to the division  for specific purposes, such                                                                    
as crisis services, and in  those cases the funding would be                                                                    
included in the grant portion of the chart.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  asked whether the  AMHTA contributions                                                                    
were  included in  the grant  component  represented by  the                                                                    
green line on the slide.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dompeling responded in the affirmative.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked what information was  reflected in                                                                    
the green line for FY 26.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dompeling replied that she  did not have the information                                                                    
immediately   available.   She    noted   that   anticipated                                                                    
reductions  were   tied  to   the  expiration   of  COVID-19                                                                    
supplemental funds.  She thought Ms. Ricci  could respond in                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  suggested that  the committee  discuss the  FY 26                                                                    
funding  during  the   scheduled  afternoon  meeting,  which                                                                    
included a budget overview for DBH.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  recalled that  about five years  ago, he                                                                    
had  offered amendments  in the  House Finance  Committee to                                                                    
increase behavioral  health grants, particularly  the direct                                                                    
cash  grants. He  remarked that  one of  the amendments  had                                                                    
failed  by  a single  vote.  The  committee had  heard  from                                                                    
groups  under  the  Behavioral Health  Association  umbrella                                                                    
that some  services could not  meet the requirements  of the                                                                    
1115  waivers. He  recalled that  one key  barrier mentioned                                                                    
was capacity. For  example, startup costs for  opening a new                                                                    
behavioral  health clinic  were not  reimbursable under  the                                                                    
waiver structure. He asked whether  such concerns were still                                                                    
valid or  if the  system had since  evolved. He  wondered if                                                                    
there  were  still  people  with unmet  needs  who  did  not                                                                    
qualify for waiver coverage.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  responded  that  gaps   continued  to  exist  in                                                                    
Alaska's behavioral health care  system. She stated that one                                                                    
of  the   department's  ongoing   priorities  had   been  to                                                                    
strengthen  the behavioral  health  care  system. There  had                                                                    
been some  progress due  to the  implementation of  the 1115                                                                    
wavier, but more  work still needed to be  done. She relayed                                                                    
that  Ms.  Dompeling  had  developed  a  strategic  plan  to                                                                    
address  the  challenges  in partnership  with  stakeholders                                                                    
across the  state. She explained  that the  Youth Behavioral                                                                    
Health Roadmap  was finalized the  previous year and  was an                                                                    
important part of the strategic  plan. Another component had                                                                    
been  a  recent  assessment conducted  by  consultants  from                                                                    
Milliman that  outlined ways to improve  the crisis response                                                                    
system.  The  focus  continued  to  be  on  identifying  and                                                                    
closing gaps in the behavioral health continuum.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:18:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie noted  that  her  constituency had  a                                                                    
high  number  of  Medicaid participants  and  asked  whether                                                                    
there was a  way to bring counselors into  schools to better                                                                    
support students' mental health.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that the  department had been working on                                                                    
developing  school-based services  to  help schools  provide                                                                    
mental  health  care.  She   reported  that  the  department                                                                    
received   a  $2.5   million  grant   from   CMS  in   2024.                                                                    
Additionally, legislation passed in  2024 had removed state-                                                                    
level   limitations  and   allowed  school   districts  more                                                                    
flexibility  to access  Medicaid funds.  She confirmed  that                                                                    
the department had been actively building out the program.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie  asked   for  confirmation  that  the                                                                    
effort applied statewide.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci continued  to slide 13, which  detailed some major                                                                    
developments  in Alaska's  Medicaid  program. She  explained                                                                    
that Medicaid had  been established at the  federal level in                                                                    
1965 and  Alaska had  joined the program  in 1972.  In 2015,                                                                    
the  state  had  expanded  Medicaid  eligibility  under  the                                                                    
Affordable Care  Act (ACA). In 2018,  the federal government                                                                    
had  approved Alaska's  1115  waiver  for behavioral  health                                                                    
services.  She noted  the  federal  government had  required                                                                    
states to  maintain Medicaid enrollment  in 2020,  except in                                                                    
very  specific  cases.  The   federal  government  had  also                                                                    
offered  states  a temporary  6.2  percent  increase in  the                                                                    
federal match  rate to help  offset the costs.  The enhanced                                                                    
match had  begun phasing out in  April of 2023, and  at that                                                                    
time, states  were required  to redetermine  eligibility for                                                                    
all  Medicaid enrollees.  She  relayed that  it  had been  a                                                                    
massive administrative undertaking  and had posed challenges                                                                    
across the country.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:20:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  moved  to slide  14,  which  displayed  Medicaid                                                                    
enrollment and spending trends. She  noted that the gold and                                                                    
green lines represented enrollment.  The gold line reflected                                                                    
the total  number of  individuals who  had been  enrolled in                                                                    
Medicaid at  any point  during each fiscal  year. In  FY 24,                                                                    
the number of enrollees had  reached nearly 280,000, but the                                                                    
month-to-month enrollment  numbers were lower.  For example,                                                                    
the  state  had  counted  about  253,000  actively  enrolled                                                                    
individuals in April  of 2023, which was when  the state had                                                                    
begun  its  process  of  redetermining  eligibility.  As  of                                                                    
December of  2023, the  number had  dropped to  246,000. The                                                                    
green  line represented  the number  of individuals  who had                                                                    
actually received a service  through Medicaid. She clarified                                                                    
that not  every enrollee incurred costs  or accessed medical                                                                    
care, which  was an  important distinction  when considering                                                                    
the Medicaid  budget. The  bars at the  bottom of  the chart                                                                    
showed the  funding sources. The dark  blue line represented                                                                    
the federal portion of the  state Medicaid budget, while the                                                                    
light  blue line  represented the  state  portion. Over  the                                                                    
past  eight  years,  the federal  portion  of  the  Medicaid                                                                    
budget  had  increased  at  a faster  rate  than  the  state                                                                    
portion.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  noted  that there  was  a  difference                                                                    
between  the   number  of  enrollees   and  the   number  of                                                                    
individuals  who  had  actually   received  care.  He  asked                                                                    
whether  there was  a  requirement  that Medicaid  enrollees                                                                    
receive preventative care.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that there was no requirement.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked   whether   the   department                                                                    
encouraged  enrollees  with  chronic conditions  to  receive                                                                    
care in  order to  be proactive. She  asked if  efforts were                                                                    
made  to  prevent  catastrophic outcomes  due  to  unmanaged                                                                    
chronic illnesses.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci   responded  that   some  programs   existed  for                                                                    
individuals with  severe or acute  needs. She  stressed that                                                                    
strengthening   support   for   individuals   with   chronic                                                                    
conditions remained a priority for the department.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if  barriers to  accessing care                                                                    
contributed  to  the  gap   between  enrollment  and  actual                                                                    
service  usage, such  as travel  from remote  communities or                                                                    
arranging childcare.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ricci   responded   that  there   were   likely   many                                                                    
contributing  factors. She  added that  a gap  often existed                                                                    
between individuals  enrolled in  a plan and  those actively                                                                    
using services. However,  the widening of the  gap over time                                                                    
was  significant  and  had  implications  for  the  Medicaid                                                                    
budget and population health management.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:24:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if  continuous care  costs were                                                                    
lower  for emergency  postpartum  coverage  for mothers  and                                                                    
infants compared to preventative care.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that she  was not sure how  many states                                                                    
had implemented  continuous coverage and there  was not much                                                                    
information available.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  clarified  that  she  was  referring                                                                    
specifically to the zero to one age range.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  responded that  she  would  follow up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked how  much flexibility  the state                                                                    
plan   had   to    incorporate   incentives   to   encourage                                                                    
participants to seek out preventative care.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded that  there was substantial flexibility.                                                                    
She   added  that   implementation  would   depend  on   the                                                                    
division's available bandwidth.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  proceeded to slide 15,  which illustrated various                                                                    
influences  on  the  Medicaid budget.  She  noted  that  the                                                                    
budget  was  complex and  could  be  affected by  inflation,                                                                    
federal match  rates, enrollment numbers,  population health                                                                    
trends,  and  the  methods  and   rates  used  to  reimburse                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci moved  to slide  16 and  stated that  one of  the                                                                    
elements the  division had been  tracking was the  number of                                                                    
individuals  receiving  services,  particularly  during  the                                                                    
redetermination of eligibility over  the past two years. She                                                                    
explained that the division had  monitored whether there was                                                                    
a decrease  in the number of  individuals receiving services                                                                    
at  any given  time. The  chart showed  that there  had been                                                                    
relative stability,  with an  average monthly  difference of                                                                    
approximately 2,000 individuals.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:27:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci advanced  to slide 17. She  noted that individuals                                                                    
with  chronic  conditions  required more  medical  services,                                                                    
which  resulted  in  higher   associated  costs.  The  slide                                                                    
depicted  the  correlation  between chronic  conditions  and                                                                    
increased healthcare  costs. She emphasized that  one of the                                                                    
division's  focus   areas  was  supporting   individuals  in                                                                    
managing  their  chronic   conditions  to  maintain  overall                                                                    
population health.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci continued  to slide  18  and noted  that a  small                                                                    
portion    of    the     population    accounted    for    a                                                                    
disproportionately large share of  total spending, which was                                                                    
typical in many  insurance plans. The gold bar  on the chart                                                                    
on  the  slide  represented   approximately  10  percent  of                                                                    
Medicaid recipients  who utilized  services. She  noted that                                                                    
10 percent of the  recipients accounted for approximately 67                                                                    
percent of total Medicaid spending  which equated to roughly                                                                    
$1.8  billion. Conversely,  about 60  percent of  recipients                                                                    
accounted  for  only  7  percent   of  total  spending.  She                                                                    
remarked that the spending distribution  was not unusual for                                                                    
insurance.  She explained  that the  pie chart  on the  left                                                                    
side   of   the   slide    provided   a   different   visual                                                                    
representation of the same dynamic  between the high and low                                                                    
utilization groups.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ricci  proceeded   to  slide   19   and  stated   that                                                                    
reimbursement methods significantly  influenced the Medicaid                                                                    
budget.  She  clarified that  the  left  side of  the  slide                                                                    
listed various  types of rates paid  to different providers,                                                                    
depending on  the services  offered. The  right side  of the                                                                    
slide  illustrated typical  adjustments made  to the  rates.                                                                    
The adjustments could occur annually  or on a one-time basis                                                                    
and  were driven  by factors  such  as inflation,  rebasing,                                                                    
legislative appropriations, and federal policy changes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  if  inflation  and rebasing  were                                                                    
connected.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  responded that  inflationary adjustments  grew on                                                                    
an annual  basis and were generally  defined in regulations.                                                                    
She   relayed   that   rebasing  involved   evaluating   the                                                                    
underlying  costs  incurred by  a  service  provider over  a                                                                    
longer  period  of  typically  three  to  five  years.  Both                                                                    
mechanisms reflected  changes in service delivery  costs but                                                                    
addressed different aspects of the rate-setting process.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:29:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci continued  to slide  20, which  included a  chart                                                                    
that  illustrated  cost-saving  strategies used  within  the                                                                    
Medicaid  program.  She  explained  that  tribal  reclaiming                                                                    
leveraged a  100 percent federal match  for certain services                                                                    
and generated  $138 million  in FY 24.  She noted  that drug                                                                    
rebate recoveries  savings were  shared between  the federal                                                                    
and state governments and had  offset Medicaid service costs                                                                    
by approximately $135  million in FY 24. She  added that the                                                                    
supplemental  drug rebates  received  by  the state  totaled                                                                    
approximately $168 million.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson reviewed  the agenda  for the  afternoon                                                                    
meeting.  He  stated that  Ms.  Ricci  would return  in  the                                                                    
afternoon  to  discuss  the   department's  budget  in  more                                                                    
detail.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:31:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:31 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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