Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

02/12/2025 08:00 AM House FINANCE

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08:05:55 AM Start
08:07:15 AM Overview: Fy26 Department of Natural Resources Budget
10:03:29 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= HB 53 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY26 Department Budget by Commissioner TELECONFERENCED
John Boyle; John Crowther, Deputy Commissioner;
and Brent Goodrum, Deputy Commissioner,
Department of Natural Resources
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 12, 2025                                                                                          
                         8:05 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:05:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson called the House Finance Committee                                                                           
meeting to order at 8:05 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair(via teleconference)                                                                     
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
John Boyle,  Commissioner, Department  of Natural  Resources;                                                                   
Brent  Goodrum, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department of  Natural                                                                   
Resources;  John Crowther,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Department                                                                   
of Natural Resources.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB  53    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB 53 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  55    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 55 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: FY26 DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES BUDGET                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                   
     loan  program  expenses  of  state  government  and  for                                                                   
     certain    programs;   capitalizing   funds;    amending                                                                   
     appropriations;   making  supplemental   appropriations;                                                                   
     making  reappropriations;  making  appropriations  under                                                                   
     art.  IX,  sec.  17(c), Constitution  of  the  State  of                                                                   
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional  budget reserve  fund;                                                                   
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                   
     capital    expenses    of   the    state's    integrated                                                                   
     comprehensive mental  health program; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: FY26 DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES BUDGET                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:07:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL  RESOURCES,                                                                   
introduced   himself   and  stated   that   serving  as   the                                                                   
Commissioner  of the  Department of  Natural Resources  (DNR)                                                                   
was an  honor. He relayed that  it was a humbling  experience                                                                   
that  came with  significant  responsibility.  He noted  that                                                                   
DNR had  a strong  culture that was  built around  the people                                                                   
of  Alaska. In  his  view, DNR  employed  the smartest,  most                                                                   
ambitious,   and   most  dedicated   individuals   in   state                                                                   
government.   He   believed  many   within   the   department                                                                   
understood  the  mission  clearly   and  recognized  that  by                                                                   
working  for DNR,  they had  more ability  to shape  Alaska's                                                                   
future than  they might in any  other agency. The  impact was                                                                   
due  to the  department's stewardship  over  state lands  and                                                                   
natural resources,  and the  wide-reaching influence  it held                                                                   
through authorizations and permits.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Boyle   introduced    the   PowerPoint    presentation                                                                   
"Department  of Natural  Resources  Overview" dated  February                                                                   
12,  2025  (copy  on  file). He  continued  to  slide  2  and                                                                   
detailed the  organizational overview  of the department.  He                                                                   
explained  that  Deputy Commissioner  Brent  Goodrum  oversaw                                                                   
several  divisions  including  the  Division  of  Agriculture                                                                   
(DA), led  by Bryan  Scoresby; the  Division of Forestry  and                                                                   
Fire Protection  (DFFP), led by State Forester  Jeremy Douse;                                                                   
the  Division  of  Support Services  (DSS),  led  by  Shannon                                                                   
Miller; the Division  of Mining, Land, and  Water (DMLW), led                                                                   
by Director  Christy Colles;  and the  Division of  Parks and                                                                   
Outdoor Recreation (DPOR), led by Ricky Gease.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  remarked that  DMLW held  an especially  important                                                                   
role   within  DNR   and  that   Director  Colles   performed                                                                   
outstanding  work. He  also  emphasized  the significance  of                                                                   
DPOR and  remarked that state  parks were among  his favorite                                                                   
elements of  DNR. He  emphasized the  value of having  public                                                                   
spaces and noted that many Alaskans lived near parks.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle  continued  to  speak  about  Deputy  Commissioner                                                                   
Crowther,  who   oversaw  the  Division  of   Geological  and                                                                   
Geophysical  Surveys (DGGS),  which he  described as  a vital                                                                   
and  sometimes unsung  division  within DNR.  He praised  the                                                                   
division  for  identifying  and  characterizing  the  state's                                                                   
resource potential.  He noted  that DGGS frequently  played a                                                                   
crucial  role in  responding to  natural  disasters, such  as                                                                   
landslides, coastal  flooding, and  volcanic activity.  As an                                                                   
example, the division  was conducting monitoring  work in the                                                                   
wake  of Typhoon  Merbok. He  noted that  DGGS was  currently                                                                   
keeping  watch  on  Mount Spurr,  which  had  recently  shown                                                                   
signs of activity.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle noted  that the  position of  state geologist  was                                                                   
currently vacant.  The role had most recently  been filled by                                                                   
Melanie  Werdon,  who  had spent  several  decades  with  the                                                                   
department  but   had  recently  retired.  He   relayed  that                                                                   
recruitment for her replacement would begin shortly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  continued to  the Division of  Oil and  Gas (DOG),                                                                   
which  was led  by Director  Derek  Nottingham. The  division                                                                   
was   important  to   the   state's  economy   and   resource                                                                   
management.  The next  division  within  the department  were                                                                   
the  Alaska Mental  Health  Trust Authority's  (AMHTA)  Trust                                                                   
Land  Office   (TLO),   led  by  Jusdi   Warner,  which   was                                                                   
responsible for  land and  resource management services.  The                                                                   
final  division  was the  Office  of Project  Management  and                                                                   
Permitting  (OPMP),  led  by  Director  Ashlee  Adoko,  which                                                                   
served  a  critical  coordination  role  for  the  state.  He                                                                   
explained   that  OPMP   provided   assurance  to   potential                                                                   
investors  that  major infrastructure  or  resource  projects                                                                   
would  receive coordinated  permitting  support across  state                                                                   
and  federal agencies.  He noted  that OPMP  functioned as  a                                                                   
 quarterback" for such efforts.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:14:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT  GOODRUM, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL                                                                   
RESOURCES, continued  on slide 3.  The table at the  top left                                                                   
represented  the department's  FY 24 actuals  and provided  a                                                                   
comparison  of the FY  25 management  plan to the  governor's                                                                   
proposed   FY  26  budget.   The  FY   24  actuals   included                                                                   
approximately  $77.9  million  in unrestricted  general  fund                                                                   
(UGF)  fire  supplementals.  He noted  the  most  significant                                                                   
changes occurred  in the "other" fund category,  which showed                                                                   
an increase  of approximately  $11.2 million, followed  by an                                                                   
increase of about $3 million in the UGF category.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  added that over half  of the UGF  increase could                                                                   
be attributed  to a provision  passed by the  legislature the                                                                   
previous   year    that   added   an   interagency    receipt                                                                   
appropriation   to    state   facilities    maintenance   and                                                                   
operations. The  provision enabled  the department  to track,                                                                   
manage,  and  report  facilities,   utilities,  repairs,  and                                                                   
related costs.  He stated that  he would elaborate  on future                                                                   
slides.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  noted  that  there  was  an  increase  of  nine                                                                   
positions from  the FY 25  management plan to  the governor's                                                                   
FY 26 budget across  all position types, as shown  at the top                                                                   
right of  the slide.  He indicated that  the reasons  for the                                                                   
position increases  would be explained in  subsequent slides.                                                                   
He  explained  that  the  three   pie  charts  on  the  slide                                                                   
represented  a  high-level  comparison  of  DNR's  four  fund                                                                   
categories  by  percentage  of the  total  operating  budget:                                                                   
UGF, designated  general fund  (DGF), other, and  federal. He                                                                   
pointed out  that there were  only minor changes  between the                                                                   
FY  25 management  plan  and the  governor's  proposed FY  26                                                                   
budget. The significant  changes would be discussed  on later                                                                   
slides.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum continued  to  slide 4  and  explained that  the                                                                   
governor's  FY  26  budget  included   20  different  funding                                                                   
sources.  According to  the green  comment box  on the  right                                                                   
side  of   the  slide,  the   general  fund   budget  totaled                                                                   
approximately  $120 million,  accounting  for  63 percent  of                                                                   
DNR's total  operating budget. Most  of the DGF  revenue came                                                                   
from park fees,  right-of-way leases, material  sales, mining                                                                   
leases, and recording  fees. The majority of  "other" revenue                                                                   
consisted  of  interagency  receipts,   statutory  designated                                                                   
program  receipts, Permanent  Fund  receipts, capital  funds,                                                                   
and AMHTA  funds. He  directed attention  to the comment  box                                                                   
on  the bottom  right of  the  slide, which  stated that  the                                                                   
department  generated   $21  in  revenue  for   every  dollar                                                                   
appropriated  to  DNR  on  a   10-year  revenue  average.  He                                                                   
emphasized  that the department  was proud  of the  return on                                                                   
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:18:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked for  more information  about the                                                                   
Exxon  Valdez Oil  Spill settlement  listed  under the  other                                                                   
category on  slide 4. She  assumed that the  department still                                                                   
received an annualized  payout from the settlement  and asked                                                                   
whether  it was  a stagnant  number year-over-year  or if  it                                                                   
was declining.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  responded that he  would need to follow  up with                                                                   
more  information.  He explained  that  most  of the  numbers                                                                   
were based  on formulas  and were  somewhat dynamic,  but the                                                                   
numbers did not fluctuate significantly.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked if  the department  could  also                                                                   
provide information  on how  many more  years it expected  to                                                                   
receive claims from the settlement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  confirmed that  he  would  follow up  with  the                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:18:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum continued  on slide 5 which included  an overview                                                                   
of the  governor's proposed FY  26 budget changes.  He stated                                                                   
that  OPMP on  line 1  planned  to add  receipt capacity  for                                                                   
anticipated  projects,   totaling  $140,000   in  interagency                                                                   
receipts.  The office  anticipated  new  projects in  mining,                                                                   
energy,   and  broadband.   Additional  interagency   receipt                                                                   
authority was needed  to ensure that there would  be no delay                                                                   
in  construction  and  operations   that  could  advance  the                                                                   
state's economy.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  explained  that   line  2  pertained  to  state                                                                   
facilities,  maintenance, and  operations  within DSS,  which                                                                   
included   $7.881  million  in   interagency  receipts.   The                                                                   
interagency receipt  appropriation would  be added  to track,                                                                   
manage,  and  report  facilities,   utilities,  repairs,  and                                                                   
related costs across the department.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  continued to  line 3,  which related  to AMHTA's                                                                   
TLO  and included  $5.5  million  in authorized  receipts  to                                                                   
maintain  the office's  administrative budget.  He noted  the                                                                   
office was  supported through  AMHTA funding, which  followed                                                                   
a zero-based  budgeting process  each fiscal year.  The funds                                                                   
covered  operating costs  such  as personal  services,  staff                                                                   
travel   expenses,   professional    services,   advertising,                                                                   
postage, and general office supplies.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum explained  that line 4 related to DMLW  and was a                                                                   
request  for  $342,000  in  UGF   and  the  addition  of  two                                                                   
permanent  full-time  positions  to implement  the  big  game                                                                   
guide  concession   area  program   authorized  by   SB  189,                                                                   
effective  FY  25.  The division  would  be  responsible  for                                                                   
drafting  and  adopting  regulations,   developing  selection                                                                   
criteria    and     guiding    qualifications,     evaluating                                                                   
applications, and issuing permits.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  discussed  line   5,  which  sought  to  expand                                                                   
broadband access  for vital community  services in FY  26 and                                                                   
FY 27 with  a request for  $306,000 in UGF and  two permanent                                                                   
full-time positions.  He relayed that the effort  was tied to                                                                   
federal  Infrastructure   Investment  and  Jobs   Act  (IIJA)                                                                   
funding intended  to bring broadband to communities  in need.                                                                   
Due  to the  complexity of  utility projects  on state  land,                                                                   
the department  needed additional  staff to process  easement                                                                   
applications  and support large-scale  broadband and  highway                                                                   
projects. He noted that it was a two-year increment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  moved on to line  6 which detailed DFFP  and its                                                                   
forest management  and development  efforts. He  relayed that                                                                   
the request was  for $858,000 in UGF and for  three permanent                                                                   
full-time positions.  The goal was to expand  access to state                                                                   
forests  and increase  the availability  of  timber sales  to                                                                   
boost  economic  development.  The  funding  would  stabilize                                                                   
positions   for  three   heavy   equipment  operators,   five                                                                   
Geographic  Information  Systems  (GIS)  analysts,  and  four                                                                   
foresters  who  currently  relied  on  expiring  capital  and                                                                   
federal funds.  The request also  included funding for  a new                                                                   
forester in Haines,  an engineer architect in  Anchorage, and                                                                   
an Accounting Technician III to strengthen the team.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:23:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  continued   to  line  7,  which   requested  an                                                                   
$800,000 increase  in statutory  designated program  receipts                                                                   
under forest  management and  development. He explained  that                                                                   
DFFP  anticipated  grant  opportunities  through  the  Denali                                                                   
Commission to  fund forest management  on private  lands. The                                                                   
program  would support  reforestation,  fire mitigation,  and                                                                   
forest  health  treatments.  The  goal was  to  leverage  the                                                                   
funding to prevent  disturbances like the Spruce  Bark Beetle                                                                   
outbreak and enhance safety for Alaskans.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  continued with  line 8 and  the request  for the                                                                   
natural disaster  emergency response  and prevention  funding                                                                   
for  DGGS.  The request  included  $648,400  in UGF  and  two                                                                   
permanent full-time  positions. He explained that  Alaska was                                                                   
experiencing  more frequent  and  severe floods,  landslides,                                                                   
and  avalanches, and  the division  lacked  the staffing  and                                                                   
funding  to respond  adequately  to requests  from the  state                                                                   
emergency operations  center. The request aimed  to establish                                                                   
a  dedicated  emergency  response team  to  conduct  geologic                                                                   
hazard assessments  and proactively  manage land  to mitigate                                                                   
geological  risks. The  funding would  support one  full-time                                                                   
Geologist II and one full-time GIS Analyst II.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked about line 4 and  wondered if SB
189   granted   DNR   any   cost   recovery   authority   for                                                                   
implementing  the big  game  guide concession  area  program,                                                                   
similar  to how  the Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                                   
Economic  Development  (DCCED)  used  cost  recovery  in  its                                                                   
licensing processes.  She asked if  there was a  mechanism to                                                                   
recover  the implementation  costs  from the  concessionaires                                                                   
once the program was in place.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum responded  that he  was not  certain whether  SB
189  included   cost  recovery  provisions.   The  department                                                                   
submitted a  fiscal note for the  bill indicating a  need for                                                                   
new  positions to  support the  program. He  relayed that  it                                                                   
was  possible  that  the  department   could  transition  the                                                                   
positions to  be funded through  program receipts  instead of                                                                   
UGF after the  program was up and running  and revenues began                                                                   
to materialize.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if SB  189 was one of  the bills                                                                   
that  passed in  the previous  year without  its fiscal  note                                                                   
being adopted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  replied that to  his knowledge, the  fiscal note                                                                   
did not travel with the bill when it was passed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan directed attention  to line 7  and the                                                                   
forester  position in Haines.  She recalled  that a  forester                                                                   
had  previously served  in Haines  and  wondered whether  the                                                                   
budget request  was to restore  the role  or to add  a second                                                                   
forester.  If the request  would add  a second forester,  she                                                                   
asked  what  specific  needs  in  FY  25  would  justify  the                                                                   
addition.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle responded  that  there  was still  a  long-serving                                                                   
forester in  Haines who managed  the Haines State  Forest and                                                                   
did  exceptional   work.  He  explained  that   part  of  the                                                                   
rationale  for adding  another  forester was  to prepare  for                                                                   
the  established Haines  forester's  eventual succession  and                                                                   
to enable  the forester  to pass  on his extensive  knowledge                                                                   
and   experience.   Additionally,  the   department   foresaw                                                                   
increased  opportunities in forest  management activities  in                                                                   
Haines that would benefit from additional staffing.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:28:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan appreciated  the  value in  succession                                                                   
planning  but  emphasized  that  the  state was  in  a  tight                                                                   
fiscal situation.  She  asked what return  on investment  the                                                                   
department  expected  by  funding  the new  position  in  the                                                                   
upcoming fiscal year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  responded that the  anticipated Baby  Brown timber                                                                   
sale would require  significant staff time and  oversight. He                                                                   
mentioned  that  there would  be  upcoming revisions  to  the                                                                   
Haines State Forest's  budget and potential  opportunities in                                                                   
carbon  markets. He  explained  that the  single forester  in                                                                   
Haines  handled everything  from  paperwork  and planning  to                                                                   
physically maintaining  access roads. The workload  had grown                                                                   
too large  for a single  person, and  the new position  would                                                                   
provide  much-needed support.  He  emphasized the  importance                                                                   
of having staff  physically present who could  lay out timber                                                                   
sales,  walk  the  forest,  and   understand  the  scope  and                                                                   
potential of available resources.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum resumed  on line  9 which  detailed DFFP's  fire                                                                   
suppression  preparedness component.  He  explained that  the                                                                   
request  was   for  $1.5  million  in   statutory  designated                                                                   
program receipt  authority. The receipts were  collected from                                                                   
parties in the  Northwest Compact Agreement and  federal fire                                                                   
cooperators. He  noted that the  revenues collected  from the                                                                   
partners helped  maintain the state's aviation  resources and                                                                   
reduced  its   reliance  on   contracted  and   emergency-use                                                                   
aircrafts.  By  expanding the  statutory  receipt  authority,                                                                   
the division could  access and use the revenues  and minimize                                                                   
its dependence on UGF.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  continued  on  line   10  and  detailed  DPOR's                                                                   
boating  safety  program.  He   explained  that  $302,000  in                                                                   
boating  safety  program  receipts  were  being  appropriated                                                                   
from  boat registration  fees  collected  under AS  05.25.096                                                                   
for  FY 25.  The  appropriation supported  ongoing  education                                                                   
and  enforcement efforts  tied to  boating safety  statewide.                                                                   
He  clarified  that  similar  language  was  intended  to  be                                                                   
included  in future  operating  budgets  to ensure  continued                                                                   
funding of the program through registration fees.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:32:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CROWTHER, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL                                                                   
RESOURCES,  continued on  slide 7 and  detailed DNR's  carbon                                                                   
programs,  including  the Carbon  Capture,  Utilization,  and                                                                   
Storage  (CCUS) initiative.  He  explained  that the  program                                                                   
was focused on  enabling the state's subsurface  resources to                                                                   
be used for  the underground injection and  permanent storage                                                                   
of  carbon  dioxide.  The  authority   for  the  program  was                                                                   
granted  by  the  legislature  in  the  prior  year  and  the                                                                   
department  had   since  worked   to  develop  and   finalize                                                                   
implementing  regulations,  which were  expected  to go  into                                                                   
effect the following week.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  noted  that applications  for  licenses  could                                                                   
begin  arriving   in  the  weeks  or  months   following  the                                                                   
finalization  of the regulations.  He indicated  that several                                                                   
companies  were already exploring  site characterization  and                                                                   
data  gathering  for  potential projects.  According  to  the                                                                   
statutes  and  accompanying regulations,  the  license  areas                                                                   
would generate  rental  payments and could  later convert  to                                                                   
long-term injection  sites and generate revenue  through per-                                                                   
ton injection fees.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson   asked  Mr.  Crowther  whether   he  was                                                                   
personally  involved in  the development  of the  regulations                                                                   
and  if  he  was actively  engaged  in  the  details  of  the                                                                   
regulation process.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther replied  he had been intimately  involved in the                                                                   
drafting  of the regulations.  He added  that the  Department                                                                   
of Law  (DOL) and  peer agencies from  other states  had also                                                                   
been consulted. He  thought that the result was  a robust and                                                                   
well-informed  regulatory  package   that  positioned  Alaska                                                                   
well to attract industry interest.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  if Mr.  Crowther  could  disclose                                                                   
more  information  about  the  early  industry  interest.  He                                                                   
asked if  projects would  be in the  Cook Inlet or  the North                                                                   
Slope, or somewhere else.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther responded  that there had already  been discreet                                                                   
efforts  underway  on the  North  Slope, with  some  publicly                                                                   
announced  projects   exploring  the  potential   for  carbon                                                                   
storage.  The   efforts  included   support  from   the  U.S.                                                                   
Department  of Energy and  much of  the information  had been                                                                   
made  publicly  accessible.  Additional   activity  had  been                                                                   
occurring  in Cook  Inlet  and  several projects  were  being                                                                   
evaluated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:35:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued  on   slide  7.  The  carbon  offset                                                                   
initiative  had  passed  two  years  earlier  to  enable  the                                                                   
generation of carbon  offset credits from state  lands. Under                                                                   
the  initiative,  the state  could  manage timber  and  other                                                                   
natural  resources in  ways  that would  generate  marketable                                                                   
credits  for  the voluntary  carbon  market  and  potentially                                                                   
create a  new source of  revenue. He stated  that regulations                                                                   
had been  finalized  in 2023 and  that DNR  had retained  the                                                                   
consultant  Terra Verde  to assess  project feasibility.  The                                                                   
department had begun  its initial focus on  the Tanana Valley                                                                   
State   Forest  but   was  also   considering  other   areas.                                                                   
Depending  on   the  outcome  of  the   assessments,  credit-                                                                   
generating projects  could be  initiated within the  year and                                                                   
revenue  might  be realized  within  18  to  24 months  of  a                                                                   
project launch.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   recalled    that   projections   had                                                                   
suggested that there  could be up to $90 million  per year in                                                                   
carbon  offset  income. He  noted  that  no revenue  had  yet                                                                   
materialized,  despite  the state  being  several years  into                                                                   
the  program.  He  asked  when   Alaska  might  begin  seeing                                                                   
financial returns from the initiative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle responded  that the timeline for  potential revenue                                                                   
was  approximately   18   months  after   the  launch   of  a                                                                   
sanctioned project.  He added that  DNR had not  committed to                                                                   
any   specific   revenue   projections,   but   instead   had                                                                   
communicated  that  there were  reasonable  opportunities  to                                                                   
generate  new   revenue.  He  affirmed  that   interest  from                                                                   
developers existed  and that some  were currently  engaged in                                                                   
feasibility  studies.  Since the  regulations  had only  been                                                                   
finalized six  months earlier, the  program was still  in its                                                                   
early stages.  He noted  that several  parties had  expressed                                                                   
interest  and were at  various stages  of evaluating  whether                                                                   
and  how to  submit  proposals to  the  state. The  voluntary                                                                   
carbon  market itself  was evolving  and  there were  ongoing                                                                   
changes   to  protocols   and   verification  standards.   He                                                                   
stressed that  it was  important to  have a dedicated  carbon                                                                   
program  manager   at  DNR  to   stay  engaged   with  market                                                                   
developments  and maximize potential  benefits to  the state.                                                                   
He  thought it  could  be beneficial  if  the  state were  to                                                                   
receive  credit  for  its  efforts  to  reduce  incidents  of                                                                   
wildfire because  it was a significant contributor  to carbon                                                                   
emissions. He anticipated  that the program would  evolve and                                                                   
expected  that  the  state  would  realize  revenue  at  some                                                                   
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:39:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  expressed  hope that  the  anticipated                                                                   
revenue  would be  realized before  the  newly planted  trees                                                                   
matured  into old  growth. He  asked how likely  it would  be                                                                   
for  there  to be  progress  within  the following  year.  He                                                                   
asked  if there was  a greater  than 50  percent chance  that                                                                   
the state  would see financial  returns from the  project, or                                                                   
if the likelihood was closer to 10 percent or lower.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  responded that he did  not wish to  speculate with                                                                   
specific   odds.   He   emphasized  that   there   had   been                                                                   
demonstrable    interest    from    credible    participants,                                                                   
particularly  those with  experience in  similar projects  in                                                                   
other  jurisdictions.  The other  projects  had  successfully                                                                   
reached  completion   which  increased  the   probability  of                                                                   
success  in  Alaska.  He  was   confident  that  the  revenue                                                                   
generated would  surpass the costs presently  associated with                                                                   
administering  the  project.   He  remarked  that  generating                                                                   
revenue was more likely than not generating revenue.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  noted   that   the  initiative   was                                                                   
frequently  referred to  as  a "tree  program,"  but she  had                                                                   
found  that  there   was  the  potential  for   using  marine                                                                   
resources such  as kelp  for the program  as well.  She asked                                                                   
whether  the existing  regulatory framework  would allow  for                                                                   
such  development  and  whether  there had  been  any  formal                                                                   
inquiries. She  added that kelp  could be harvested  within a                                                                   
single  season,  unlike  trees.   She  understood  that  kelp                                                                   
offered   a  more   immediate   opportunity  for   generating                                                                   
revenue, assuming there was industry interest.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle replied  that there  was  interest in  mariculture                                                                   
opportunities.  He explained that  the carbon offset  program                                                                   
would   accommodate   and   facilitate    ventures   in   the                                                                   
mariculture  environment and  there were  ongoing efforts  to                                                                   
develop  protocols   for  the   projects.  There   were  many                                                                   
innovative   concepts   under   review,  such   as   projects                                                                   
proposing the use  of aquatic machinery to  harvest the upper                                                                   
layers of  kelp. The  collected kelp  material would  then be                                                                   
sunk  into deep  ocean locations,  where it  was expected  to                                                                   
remain  for hundreds  of  years  before decomposing  and  re-                                                                   
releasing  carbon.  While  the  specifics  were  still  being                                                                   
refined,  the  foundational  concepts   were  actively  under                                                                   
development.  He added  that  he had  personally  met with  a                                                                   
company  operating  a  significant   mariculture  project  in                                                                   
Africa  that   was  exploring   opportunities  in   Southeast                                                                   
Alaska.  He  anticipated  that  interest  would  continue  to                                                                   
grow.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:43:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked whether Mr. Boyle  was aware of                                                                   
any  upcoming  changes  from   the  federal  government.  She                                                                   
wanted to  get a better sense  of the department's  goals and                                                                   
objectives.  She   asked  for  more  information   about  the                                                                   
potential  impacts on the  carbon offset  market and  whether                                                                   
any  existing   firefighting   cooperation  agreements   with                                                                   
Canada might be affected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle responded  that he would be hesitant  to attempt to                                                                   
predict future  federal actions.  He noted  that there  was a                                                                   
possibility that  incentives established  under IIJA  and the                                                                   
Inflation  Reduction  Act  (IRA) could  be  reconsidered.  He                                                                   
explained  that the  45Q  tax credits  were  used to  support                                                                   
CCUS  projects  and  could  influence  company  interest.  He                                                                   
relayed that Sumitomo,  a major industrial  conglomerate, had                                                                   
expressed  interest in  carbon capture  and sequestration  in                                                                   
Alaska.   The   interest   was    driven   by   international                                                                   
decarbonization goals  particularly in Japan and  South Korea                                                                   
and  was  not dependent  on  U.S.  incentives,  programs,  or                                                                   
policies.  He  thought  there  was a  strong  opportunity  to                                                                   
generate  value  from  state resources  and  there  was  both                                                                   
international  and   domestic  interest.  The   goal  was  to                                                                   
monetize every  resource and open additional  revenue streams                                                                   
to support state programs.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:47:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked for  more information  about the                                                                   
five-year  conversion  to  lease   option  under  the  carbon                                                                   
capture program.  She wondered  whether the current  rates of                                                                   
$20  per  acre  and  $250  per   ton  injected  aligned  with                                                                   
international standards.  She also  asked how the  rates were                                                                   
being determined.  She was concerned  about the  integrity of                                                                   
the  program  and  asked  how the  state  could  ensure  that                                                                   
companies were not  reinjecting carbon solely  to enhance oil                                                                   
production. She  reiterated her  concern about the  potential                                                                   
for abuse of the program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  responded  that   comparing  Alaska's  program                                                                   
rates   to   international   standards    remained   somewhat                                                                   
premature,  as the  global market  for  carbon transport  and                                                                   
storage was  still in development.  He noted that  Alaska was                                                                   
already  being considered  as an early  destination  for such                                                                   
projects,   alongside   other   Pacific  Rim   nations   like                                                                   
Australia  and Indonesia.  The program's  terms and  statutes                                                                   
were  fully public  and prospective  partners were  reviewing                                                                   
them closely.  He acknowledged that project  structures might                                                                   
evolve  alongside the  market  itself, but  updates would  be                                                                   
shared  with the  legislature  as  the process  unfolded.  He                                                                   
explained  that  early  assessments focused  on  geology  and                                                                   
infrastructure needs were underway.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther   added  that   lease  applications   could  be                                                                   
submitted in the  coming months, which would  provide further                                                                   
clarity on how  the program was being received.  He explained                                                                   
that  enhanced  oil  recovery  had  long  been  practiced  by                                                                   
operators,  with  direct  financial  benefits  to  the  state                                                                   
through  increased royalty  revenues. He  relayed that  AOGCC                                                                   
and  DNR had  mechanisms  to  monitor  and assess  oil  field                                                                   
operations,   such  as   statutes,   lease  conditions,   and                                                                   
reporting requirements  related to well permitting  and field                                                                   
activity.  Companies had  the  option to  convert leases  and                                                                   
the  department  and  AOGCC both  held  authority  to  direct                                                                   
conversions   when  a  site   shifted  to  exclusive   carbon                                                                   
storage.  He   suggested  that   the  state  had   sufficient                                                                   
oversight  and   tools  in  place   to  manage   the  program                                                                   
effectively  and could  properly respond  if the program  was                                                                   
being abused.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:52:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  continued  the  presentation  on  slide  8.  He                                                                   
stated  that  DFFP's  two  core   functions  were  to  manage                                                                   
wildland  fire risks  to life,  property, and  infrastructure                                                                   
across 150  million acres in  Alaska, and sustainably  manage                                                                   
the  state's forests  to  supply  resources to  Alaskans.  He                                                                   
continued  to  slide  9  and   explained  that  the  division                                                                   
managed 47  million acres  of state  forests and 2.1  million                                                                   
acres  of   legislatively  designated   forests.   The  areas                                                                   
supported  commercial  timber  sales and  public  use.  State                                                                   
timber  sales  were  the  main source  of  supply  for  local                                                                   
sawmills and  value-added wood  product manufacturers  across                                                                   
much of  Alaska. The  sales also  provided woody biomass  for                                                                   
heat  and electricity,  particularly in  the interior  region                                                                   
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  reported   that  in  the  previous   year,  the                                                                   
division  sold  33.6  million   board  feet  of  new  timber,                                                                   
appraised  at $2.9  million. He  relayed  that an  additional                                                                   
25.2 million  board feet was  harvested from state  lands and                                                                   
generated  $1.7 million  in timber  receipts.  He noted  that                                                                   
128  miles  of  forest  roads  were  maintained  by  division                                                                   
personnel, contractors,  and loggers. The  division continued                                                                   
to  build  new   roads  to  access  new  timber   stands  and                                                                   
currently managed  a total road network of  approximately 670                                                                   
miles,  including  roads  within  and to  state  forests  and                                                                   
other  lands used  by Alaskans  for subsistence,  recreation,                                                                   
and business.  He emphasized  that the  roads also  served as                                                                   
critical   access  points   during  periods   of  high   fire                                                                   
activity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Goodrum   explained  that   the   department   remained                                                                   
committed  to expanding  Alaska's  forest  economy. He  noted                                                                   
that the timber  industry supported approximately  1,200 jobs                                                                   
and  contributed   $58  million   annually  to   the  state's                                                                   
economy.  The  division  aimed   to  increase  the  available                                                                   
timber  volume and  offer  longer-term  contracts to  provide                                                                   
operators  with   the  stability  to  invest   in  additional                                                                   
equipment  and   crews.  He  noted  that  the   division  had                                                                   
expanded reforestation and pre-commercial  thinning efforts.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  relayed that  training sessions  for the  Alaska                                                                   
Lumber  Grading  Program  (ALGP)  had  been  held  in  Sitka,                                                                   
Klawock,  Haines,  Soldotna, Palmer,  Aniak,  and  Fairbanks,                                                                   
and a total  of 109 individuals were certified.  The division                                                                   
was also  working with  the University  of North Carolina  to                                                                   
develop a  wood drying  workshop to be  offered later  in the                                                                   
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:55:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum advanced  to slide  10. He  reiterated that  the                                                                   
division was responsible  for managing fire risks  across 150                                                                   
million  acres  of  land.  He  stated  that  recruitment  and                                                                   
retention of  wildland firefighters and  dispatchers remained                                                                   
a top priority.  He credited the governor's  mission-critical                                                                   
and   hazard   incentive   pay   with   improving   workforce                                                                   
stability.   There  had   been  a   twelvefold  increase   in                                                                   
applicants for the  Pioneer Peak, Gannett Glacier,  and White                                                                   
Mountain  crews from  2024  to  2025. There  was  also a  5.2                                                                   
percent decrease  in vacancies  from January 2024  to January                                                                   
2025.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  explained  that the  fire  program's  strategic                                                                   
plan aimed  to ensure staffing  levels capable  of supporting                                                                   
Preparedness Level  3 of the five-level national  fire danger                                                                   
scale,  which   reduced  reliance   on  delayed   and  costly                                                                   
resources  from outside  Alaska.  In the  previous year,  the                                                                   
division trained  224 new firefighters through  five wildland                                                                   
fire   academies,    including   specialized    training   in                                                                   
prevention,   initial   attack,    basic   and   intermediate                                                                   
firefighting, and  agency crew operations. He  added that 158                                                                   
emergency  firefighters took  part in  hazard fuel  reduction                                                                   
projects near  communities and  areas of state  interest. The                                                                   
division received  $10.2 million in federal funds  to support                                                                   
training, technology  upgrades, and assistance  for volunteer                                                                   
fire  departments.   The  division  awarded   three  wildfire                                                                   
defense grant applicants  a combined $3.1 million  to improve                                                                   
community-level fire preparedness.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum stated  that the  division  focused on  reducing                                                                   
the number of  human-caused fires, which were  often the most                                                                   
destructive due  to their proximity  to populated  areas. The                                                                   
prevention  efforts centered on  public education,  outreach,                                                                   
and   awareness   campaigns.    Last   year,   the   division                                                                   
participated  in  104  outreach  events  and  delivered  over                                                                   
1,500 public announcements.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:00:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum continued  to  slide 11  and  reported that  the                                                                   
division  had   implemented  12  hazardous   fuel  mitigation                                                                   
projects using  private contractors,  Alaska fire  crews, and                                                                   
local   government   partnerships,   which   contributed   to                                                                   
building   a  landscape   of   fire-resilient  areas   around                                                                   
Alaska's  communities. The  funding for  wildfire and  forest                                                                   
management efforts  came from a combination of  state capital                                                                   
improvement  projects   (CIPs),  federal  grants,   and  U.S.                                                                   
Forest  Service  (USFS)  pass-through  funds. He  noted  that                                                                   
investing  in  fire-adapted  communities   reduced  long-term                                                                   
fire  suppression  costs.  He  reported that  the  2024  fire                                                                   
season in  Alaska was  average, with  379 fires burning  just                                                                   
under 700,000 acres.  He relayed that division  aircraft flew                                                                   
over 1,400  hours and dropped  250,000 gallons  of retardant.                                                                   
Protected assets  included the Trans-Alaska  Pipeline System,                                                                   
mining infrastructure, and major highway corridors.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Goodrum  stated   that  suppression   efforts  in   the                                                                   
Matanuska-Susitna   Borough  (MSB),   Fairbanks  North   Star                                                                   
Borough  (FNSB),  and  the  Kenai   Peninsula  Borough  (KPB)                                                                   
protected  more  than 500  primary  residences  and over  100                                                                   
remote  cabins.  In  2024,  personnel  supported  the  winter                                                                   
storm  response  in Fairbanks  and  22  firefighters  cleared                                                                   
roads of  fallen trees  to enable  access for the  Department                                                                   
of  Transportation  and  Public Facilities  (DOT).  He  added                                                                   
that  division   crews  assisted  in  Kotzebue   during  fall                                                                   
flooding caused  by winter  sea storms  and a 12-person  team                                                                   
helped   pump   out  flooded   basements   and   crawlspaces.                                                                   
Firefighters   also    supported   the   Federal    Emergency                                                                   
Management   Agency's  (FEMA)   responses  during   Hurricane                                                                   
Helene,  deploying to  North Carolina  and  Florida to  clear                                                                   
roads, manage  distribution centers, and assist  in temporary                                                                   
housing  efforts. Additionally,  25  personnel were  deployed                                                                   
to  Southern  California  to   support  fire  suppression  in                                                                   
communities impacted by major fires.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  continued to slide  12 and provided  an overview                                                                   
of  staffing  and  training efforts.  He  reported  that  the                                                                   
division   employed   220   wildland    fire   and   resource                                                                   
technicians   and  consisted   of   132  permanent   seasonal                                                                   
employees   and    88   long-term   non-permanent    seasonal                                                                   
employees. He  reiterated that  five fire academies  had been                                                                   
taught in  2024 and division  personnel also  participated in                                                                   
interagency  training  with  the   Alaska  Fire  Service.  He                                                                   
stated that  a wide range of  training courses had  been held                                                                   
across  the   state,  including  entry-level   and  refresher                                                                   
courses. He reported  that twelve of the sessions  took place                                                                   
in Southwest Alaska,  where efforts were underway  to rebuild                                                                   
local firefighting crews.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  advanced  to  slide 13  and  spoke  about  fire                                                                   
prioritization.  He explained  that  all protection  agencies                                                                   
followed  the  Alaska Interagency  Wildland  Fire  Management                                                                   
Plan (AIWFMP). The plan ensured a coordinated and cost-                                                                         
effective approach  to wildfire management and  was developed                                                                   
by   the  state   through   collaboration   with  USFS,   the                                                                   
Department    of   the    Interior,    and   Alaska    Native                                                                   
organizations.   He   stated   that  the   plan   established                                                                   
priorities during  times of limited resources,  with life and                                                                   
safety  as  the  highest  concern.  Fires  threatening  human                                                                   
lives, homes,  or critical infrastructure  received immediate                                                                   
attention.   He  referenced   a   map  on   the  slide   that                                                                   
categorized  areas  by  priority  level:  red  for  critical,                                                                   
orange for full  protection, yellow for  modified protection,                                                                   
and green for limited protection.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:04:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  advanced to slide  14 and relayed that  he often                                                                   
received questions  about firefighting assistance  agreements                                                                   
and  reimbursement  procedures.   He  explained  that  Alaska                                                                   
utilized   three  primary   agreements   when  importing   or                                                                   
exporting  firefighting  resources,  which  outlined  billing                                                                   
procedures, operational  protocols, and mutual  expectations.                                                                   
The   most   efficient   arrangements   were   state-to-state                                                                   
agreements  and  participation   in  the  Northwest  Compact,                                                                   
where  direct  billing  between   parties  typically  enabled                                                                   
reimbursement  within six  months. He  noted that Alaska  was                                                                   
known for  its reliable participation  in the  agreements and                                                                   
the  Alaska  Master  Cooperative   Wildland  Fire  Management                                                                   
Agreement  functioned  as the  national  system for  resource                                                                   
ordering.  He  explained  that  USFS  acted  as  the  billing                                                                   
agency   under  the   agreement,   but  reimbursement   often                                                                   
required  several  years  due  to the  complexity  of  cross-                                                                   
billing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  continued to slide  15 which illustrated  recent                                                                   
trends   in  fire   and  prepositioning   costs.  The   state                                                                   
allocated $5.24  million in UGF  for fire activity in  FY 19.                                                                   
The allocation  amount increased  by $8.4  million in  FY 20,                                                                   
totaling  $13.64 million.  He explained  that $34.34  million                                                                   
had  been   allocated  in  the   current  fiscal   year.  The                                                                   
governor's  proposed FY  26 budget  allocated $25.8  million,                                                                   
which was  75 percent of  the current year's  funding, double                                                                   
the amount  allocated in FY 24,  and five times more  than in                                                                   
FY 19.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked  for  an update  on  a  lumber                                                                   
grading  bill  passed  the  previous   year.  She  asked  for                                                                   
information  about the  implementation  progress and  whether                                                                   
there had been any commercial benefits.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Goodrum   responded   that  the   program   was   fully                                                                   
implemented  and  operational.  He reiterated  that  training                                                                   
had  been  conducted   in  nine  locations,   certifying  109                                                                   
individuals.  He noted  that Representative  George  Rauscher                                                                   
had participated  in the training  course. He added  that the                                                                   
program  was  already  driving increased  demand  for  timber                                                                   
resources  in local  communities and  showed promising  early                                                                   
success.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked   for  confirmation  that  the                                                                   
regulations were finalized and  that the program was active.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson noted  that there  was an absence  of                                                                   
carbon credit sales  or market development objectives  in the                                                                   
department's  stated goals.  She asked  whether any  progress                                                                   
had been made.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  asked for  clarification on  which specific  goals                                                                   
she was referring to.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  replied that  she  was referring  to                                                                   
the department's  goals listed in  the front of  DNR's budget                                                                   
book.  She   noted  that   carbon  credit   sales  were   not                                                                   
mentioned.  She  asked for  more  information  on creating  a                                                                   
carbon market and selling credits.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle responded  that  the intent  was  to sell  credits                                                                   
within  the  voluntary  carbon   market.  He  explained  that                                                                   
various  protocol  institutions   existed  to  help  entities                                                                   
market credits  to specific sectors.  He emphasized  that the                                                                   
most   significant  development   thus  far   had  been   the                                                                   
establishment   of  the   program   itself.  The   regulatory                                                                   
framework  was  in  place  and DNR  had  hired  a  designated                                                                   
carbon  manager   responsible  for  engaging   with  relevant                                                                   
institutions  and  ensuring  that   Alaska's  interests  were                                                                   
represented  as the protocols  continued  to evolve.  Part of                                                                   
the ongoing  work involved evaluating  which types  of forest                                                                   
management would  qualify for credits as well  as identifying                                                                   
other opportunities  for carbon  sequestration, including  in                                                                   
mariculture. He  noted that there  were numerous ways  to use                                                                   
public lands and  techniques to capture or  store carbon. The                                                                   
department  was working  to identify areas  where Alaska  was                                                                   
particularly  well-positioned  to  participate,  and  it  was                                                                   
keeping  channels  open  for interested  entities  to  pursue                                                                   
specific projects  based on  Alaska's natural resources.  The                                                                   
carbon market  remained highly  dynamic. The primary  goal at                                                                   
the  current stage  was  to navigate  the  complexity of  the                                                                   
field while identifying viable opportunities for the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson remarked  that considerable  time had                                                                   
been spent  developing carbon  legislation and she  wanted to                                                                   
ensure  the  program   remained  active  and   did  not  lose                                                                   
momentum.  She  noted  that  DNR's   goals  for  firefighting                                                                   
seemed  similar  to  goals from  previous  years.  She  asked                                                                   
whether  there   were  any  new  or  particularly   important                                                                   
priorities beyond  the standard targets. She  understood that                                                                   
one of  the goals  was to  mitigate smoke  concerns, but  she                                                                   
was unsure how the objective would be approached.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle   replied  that  one   of  the  most   significant                                                                   
developments in  the past year was the  legislature's support                                                                   
for  increased emergency  firefighter  pay.  The funding  had                                                                   
been  critical  for  maintaining  a  qualified  and  reliable                                                                   
workforce.  He noted  that  a  year ago,  state  firefighters                                                                   
were  walking   off  the  job,   getting  hired   as  federal                                                                   
firefighters, and  receiving an immediate 47  percent jump in                                                                   
pay and  benefits. He explained  that losing high  numbers of                                                                   
crew  members   and  needing   to  undertake   the  cost   of                                                                   
recruitment  and retraining  was a  significant cost  driver.                                                                   
He  added  that instability  also  meant  that there  was  an                                                                   
added risk  in terms  of having  less experienced  personnel.                                                                   
He   stressed  that   recruitment   and  retention   markedly                                                                   
improved after pay was increased.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  continued that recent  efforts, such  as increased                                                                   
funding   for  firefighter   compensation,   represented   an                                                                   
important step  toward preparedness and cost  containment. He                                                                   
explained  that DNR was  working to  build capacity  to reach                                                                   
fire preparedness  level three.  One of the most  significant                                                                   
cost drivers was  Alaska's reliance on external  support from                                                                   
other states or  provinces. Transporting crews  and equipment                                                                   
from  locations  such  as  Washington,  Oregon,  Montana,  or                                                                   
Saskatchewan,   Canada,   involved   substantial   logistical                                                                   
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  remarked that investing  more money up  front into                                                                   
recruitment,   retention,    and   local    readiness   could                                                                   
ultimately  lead to long-term  savings  by reducing the  need                                                                   
for  outside  assistance.  He   stressed  the  importance  of                                                                   
forestry-related infrastructure.  He relayed that  roads were                                                                   
typically  built  and  maintained by  logging  operations  in                                                                   
areas with  active timber  activity, but  DNR was  working to                                                                   
expand its budget  in order to maintain more  roads. He noted                                                                   
that  improving  road access  would  lower costs  for  future                                                                   
timber   operators,   increase   the   viability   of   local                                                                   
harvesting  projects, and  allow firefighter  crews to  reach                                                                   
wildfires  by ground.  He  noted that  ground  transportation                                                                   
for crews  was significantly less  expensive than  relying on                                                                   
aircrafts.  He thought  it was  important  to manage  forests                                                                   
more  effectively,   promote  economic  opportunity   through                                                                   
timber,  and reduce  wildfire  risks by  investing in  access                                                                   
and reforestation projects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:18:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum asked whether  there had been  any cost                                                                   
implications  related  to  the  roadless rule.  He  asked  if                                                                   
changes  to the  roadless rule  that might  affect the  state                                                                   
were anticipated.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle  responded  that  the   roadless  rule  and  other                                                                   
policies  and practices  of USFS had  made forest  management                                                                   
more difficult in  some situations. He explained  that access                                                                   
challenges  had  occasionally  arisen  when trying  to  reach                                                                   
state lands or  inholdings located within or  adjacent to the                                                                   
Tongass National  Forest, but  fortunately, wildfire  risk in                                                                   
the Tongass  was generally  low  due to its  wet climate.  He                                                                   
noted  that  coordination  with  USFS  had  not  always  been                                                                   
straightforward.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum would follow up offline.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:20:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum   continued  on   slide  16  which   highlighted                                                                   
priorities  for DA, such  as expanding  land for  production,                                                                   
improving  access to  loans, supporting  infrastructure,  and                                                                   
growing  market  access.  He reported  that  the  Agriculture                                                                   
Revolving Loan Fund  (ARLF) held $21.5 million  in equity and                                                                   
supported over  60 loans. He relayed  that 23 new  loans were                                                                   
approved  in FY  24, totaling  $6.1 million.  The loans  were                                                                   
aimed   at    supporting   equipment,   livestock,    product                                                                   
processing,  and  farm  development. The  division  was  also                                                                   
managing  over  $10  million  in  federal  grants,  including                                                                   
programs aimed  at food security  and local food  purchasing.                                                                   
Over  $100 million  in agricultural  products were  inspected                                                                   
annually  to meet  domestic and  international standards.  He                                                                   
explained that  the Future Farmers  of America  (FFA) program                                                                   
had  expanded to  17 schools  and served  over 450  students.                                                                   
International  trade  activities   had  also  been  supported                                                                   
through   partnerships  with   the   Western  United   States                                                                   
Agricultural   Trade   Association  (WUSATA),   among   other                                                                   
entities.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  if loan  demand  exceeded  the                                                                   
available ARLF funds.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  responded  that demand was  putting pressure  on                                                                   
the  fund  and  that the  Board  of  Agriculture  had  raised                                                                   
concerns about capacity.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked for  more information  about the                                                                   
status  of  Phyto inspections  for  exports.  She  understood                                                                   
that the state had cut back on its flower exports.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum responded  that the division had  worked to train                                                                   
additional  staff and  was meeting  the  industry's needs  to                                                                   
ensure that exports were occurring.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie asked  who was  receiving the  grants.                                                                   
She wanted to make  sure that the local farm  in her district                                                                   
was on the grant list.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum responded  that he  would  make the  information                                                                   
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum continued  on  slide 17  and  reported that  the                                                                   
Feed  Grain Reserve  Program  (FGRP)  was initiated  in  late                                                                   
2023 in partnership  with the Delta Farmers  Cooperative. The                                                                   
program aimed to  serve as a sustainable solution  for future                                                                   
grain  shortages by  mitigating risk  and strengthening  food                                                                   
security  for  the  livestock  industry  and  Alaskans.  Four                                                                   
producers were  under contract  to help expand  in-state feed                                                                   
grain production.  He stated that  the Plant  Material Center                                                                   
(PLC)  cleaned approximately  50,000  pounds  of native  seed                                                                   
and  over  96,000  pounds  of  cereal  grain  for  commercial                                                                   
growers,  which had  increased significantly  from the  prior                                                                   
year. He  added that  PLC also  maintained disease-free  seed                                                                   
potatoes  and  provided  over 40  varieties  of  foundational                                                                   
seed to  commercial potato  producers  across the state.  The                                                                   
division  continued  to  administer  $2.2  million  from  the                                                                   
Regional Food  Systems Infrastructure Grant, which  sought to                                                                   
build resilience  in Alaska's  middle  food supply chain.  In                                                                   
conjunction  with  DMLW,  DA  encouraged  the  transition  of                                                                   
additional  lands into  agricultural  production. He  relayed                                                                   
that  a significant  overhaul  and  capacity upgrade  of  the                                                                   
division's seed  cleaning facility was also underway  and was                                                                   
anticipated  to   be  completed   in  time  to   assist  with                                                                   
processing the next fall harvest.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther continued  to slide 18 and provided  an overview                                                                   
of DGGS.  He explained  that the  division collected  data on                                                                   
Alaska's natural  resources and geologic hazards  in order to                                                                   
protect life and  safety, which supported all  regions of the                                                                   
state.  He relayed  that the  core  of the  division was  the                                                                   
Minerals  Resources Section,  which  conducted advanced  data                                                                   
collection and  developed geological  maps to identify  where                                                                   
mineral resources  existed and what types were  present. Much                                                                   
of the  recent work  was focused  on the  interior region  of                                                                   
the  state   where  significant   mineral  activity   already                                                                   
existed.  The goal  was to  enhance  knowledge of  additional                                                                   
potential development sites.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:27:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued  on  slide  19  which  detailed  the                                                                   
Energy  Resources  Section,  which   collected  geologic  and                                                                   
geophysical data  related to oil,  gas, coal,  and geothermal                                                                   
resources. He  stated that the  legislature had  approved new                                                                   
funding in  the previous year  to expand the  DGGS geothermal                                                                   
program.  The division  was in  the process  of hiring  staff                                                                   
and planning new  geothermal activities. He relayed  that the                                                                   
division's  energy data  supported  oil exploration  projects                                                                   
such   as  Pikka   and  Willow.   The   division  worked   in                                                                   
cooperation with  the U.S. Geological  Survey (USGS)  on core                                                                   
sampling, outcrop assessment, and reporting.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  advanced   to  slide  20  and   described  the                                                                   
Geologic  Hazards Program.  He  noted that  hazards  occurred                                                                   
statewide and that  a new budget item supported  the creation                                                                   
of a dedicated  hazard response team. The team  would improve                                                                   
the  state's   ability  to  respond  to   geological  threats                                                                   
effectively  and in a  timely manner.  He noted that  hazards                                                                   
had  become a  yearly  occurrence in  the  state. Many  staff                                                                   
were focused on  specific programs, research  initiatives, or                                                                   
grant-funded projects  and were not resourced  or equipped to                                                                   
act in an  emergency response capacity. He  added that DDGS's                                                                   
Hydrology    and   Surficial    Geology   Section    involved                                                                   
identifying  surface  resources   such  as  gravel  for  road                                                                   
construction  and understanding  water  resources across  the                                                                   
state.  He noted  that Alaska's  frozen  water systems  often                                                                   
posed  geologic   hazards,  but  also  served   as  essential                                                                   
resources  for   development  and   everyday  life   in  many                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued  to   slide  21  and  discussed  the                                                                   
Geologic  Information   Center,  which  he  described   as  a                                                                   
crucial  part of  the division.  The  center was  responsible                                                                   
for  translating highly  technical  scientific research  into                                                                   
accessible  information  for the  public,  for industry,  and                                                                   
for academic  researchers. The  center published  reports and                                                                   
maps  and managed  increasingly large  and complex  datasets.                                                                   
He  also highlighted  the  Geologic Materials  Center,  which                                                                   
was a  nearly 15-year-old facility  housed in a  former Sam's                                                                   
Club warehouse  that had  been repurposed  with support  from                                                                   
the  legislature.  The  center stored  physical  samples  and                                                                   
information  collected  from over  a century  of  exploration                                                                   
activity. He emphasized  that the value of  the archive could                                                                   
not be  overstated, as  reproducing the  data would  be cost-                                                                   
prohibitive and  potentially impossible. He also  shared that                                                                   
new  funding had  recently been  received  to apply  emerging                                                                   
technologies to  the stored samples,  which would  expand the                                                                   
center's capabilities and relevance.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:31:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  moved  to slide  22 and provided  an update  on                                                                   
the  Alaska Volcano  Observatory,  which was  a joint  effort                                                                   
between  state  staff  and USGS.  The  observatory  had  been                                                                   
especially active  due to ongoing upgrades and  improved data                                                                   
collection  systems  for  monitoring   remote  volcanoes.  He                                                                   
noted   that   the   Aleutian   Islands   remained   sparsely                                                                   
populated, but  the islands were  located along  critical air                                                                   
cargo  and   passenger  flight  routes.  He   explained  that                                                                   
monitoring  volcanic activity  helped prevent disruptions  to                                                                   
air  travel. He  noted that  Mount Spurr,  which was  located                                                                   
near Anchorage,  was a  volcano of  particular concern  given                                                                   
past eruptions in the region.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  continued to detail  the the Alaska  Geospatial                                                                   
Office,  which  coordinated geospatial  data  collection  and                                                                   
sharing within  DNR and other  state government  entities. He                                                                   
stressed   that  the   office   was  critical   in   creating                                                                   
efficiencies and ensuring timely access to updated data.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued   to  slide  23  and   detailed  the                                                                   
priorities  for  DGGS for  FY  25.  The division  planned  to                                                                   
continue its  work on  mineral assessments,  with a  focus on                                                                   
improving  access  to  reliable  geologic  data.  The  energy                                                                   
resources  program would  also  expand,  including the  newly                                                                   
supported   geothermal   initiative.   He   reiterated   that                                                                   
geological  hazard mitigation  and emergency readiness  would                                                                   
remain a  top priority and  that the division  would continue                                                                   
publishing data and preparing for future natural disasters.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  for more  information  about  the                                                                   
area survey  located at  Illinois Creek  Mine. He  noted that                                                                   
the  mine  site   had  previously  been  mothballed   due  to                                                                   
noncompliance by the leaseholder.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum responded  that  there were  a  number of  years                                                                   
during  which the  project had  been  in an  idle status  and                                                                   
there had  been routine visits  to ensure that  environmental                                                                   
conditions  were  sufficient.   He  relayed  that  there  was                                                                   
renewed   interest   in  considering   Illinois   Creek   for                                                                   
mineralization.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:34:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum advanced  to  slide  24 and  read  the slide  as                                                                   
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The Division of Mining, Land and Water (DMLW) manages                                                                      
     more than 165 million acres  a land base comparable                                                                        
    in size to California and most of Oregon combined.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DMLW supports the department's core mission by:                                                                            
     • Acquiring and disposing of land and resources                                                                            
     • Providing  use of  and access to  state lands  for the                                                                   
     public                                                                                                                     
     •  Fostering   responsible  development  of   lands  and                                                                   
     resources                                                                                                                  
        Managing resource data                                                                                                  
     •  Protecting   the  State's  natural   resource  assets                                                                   
     consistent with the public interest                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum continued to slide 25 and read from it as                                                                           
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     FY2024 Accomplishments:                                                                                                    
     •  Generated  $37.9  in   revenue  for  FY2024,  an  8.7                                                                   
     percent increase from FY2023                                                                                               
     •  Eliminated  patent  issuance  backlog,  allowing  for                                                                   
     immediate issuance  to the purchaser once  due diligence                                                                   
     is complete. Previous timeline was nine months                                                                             
     • Completed  planning efforts  for the Matanuska  Valley                                                                   
     Moose Range and Jonesville Public Use Area                                                                                 
     •  Conveyed a  total  of 733  acres  to three  different                                                                   
     municipalities                                                                                                             
     •  Generated  $5.9  million  in  revenue  for  the  Land                                                                   
     Disposal  Income  Fund,  a  9.1  percent  increase  from                                                                   
     FY2023                                                                                                                     
     •  Sold  165 parcels  of  land  to the  public  totaling                                                                   
     approximately 1,177 acres                                                                                                  
     •   Issued  75   permits   to  appropriate   water   and                                                                   
     187certificates of appropriation                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum moved to slide 26 and read from it as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FY2025 Priorities:                                                                                                         
     •  Continue  to responsibly  authorize  permits,  leases                                                                   
     and  easements  to  develop the  state's  resources  and                                                                   
     help diversify the state economy                                                                                           
     •   Focused  acquisition   of  4.8   million  acres   in                                                                   
     remaining    statehood    entitlement   lands    through                                                                   
     legislation and acquisition requests                                                                                       
     •  Finalize  a decision  for  the Ambler  Road  easement                                                                   
     authorization to  the Alaska Industrial  Development and                                                                   
     Export Authority (AIDEA)                                                                                                   
     •  Maintain  our  efforts to  implement  the  Governor's                                                                   
     "Unlocking Alaska" initiative                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked for more information  on the bullet                                                                   
point regarding  Ambler Road. He  asked if it meant  that DNR                                                                   
would  make  the Alaska  Industrial  Development  and  Export                                                                   
Authority  (AIDEA) the possessor  of the  easement and  if it                                                                   
would have the right and title to the easement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:38:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum responded  that  DMLW continued  to  work on  an                                                                   
application  it had received  from AIDEA  for a  right-of-way                                                                   
that  would extend  from  the Dalton  Highway  to the  Ambler                                                                   
Road  project  area.  The  application   remained  an  active                                                                   
authorization   before  the  division   and  it   anticipated                                                                   
finalizing the process soon.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  whether the  easement  crossed                                                                   
privately  held  Native  Corporation  lands.  She  understood                                                                   
that  two   Native  Corporations   would  not  agree   to  an                                                                   
easement.  She asked  if the  original  platting remained  in                                                                   
place  or  if  the  state  planned  to  relocate  the  access                                                                   
easement.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum replied  that  the  state could  only  authorize                                                                   
easements on  lands in  which it held  interest and  was able                                                                   
to make  authorizations. He  explained that other  landowners                                                                   
would  need to  come  to an  agreement  separately. He  added                                                                   
that the division's team was closely evaluating the matter.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if section-line  easement access                                                                   
applied over Native Corporation lands.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum responded that he would follow up with details.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan commented  that she  had only  learned                                                                   
about section-line  easements during her time  in office. She                                                                   
credited Mr. Goodrum  for introducing her to  the concept six                                                                   
years earlier.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther continued  on  slide 27  and  relayed that  DOG                                                                   
operated with  a mission to  understand Alaska's oil  and gas                                                                   
resources, make  the resources available for  lease, maximize                                                                   
the  state's revenue,  and provide  the  state with  benefits                                                                   
from  development.  He  emphasized  that  the  division  also                                                                   
aimed  to ensure  development occurred  responsibly and  with                                                                   
protections  in place  for both  the  environment and  nearby                                                                   
communities. He  explained that the division's  work involved                                                                   
lease  sales,   lease  management,  royalty   collection  and                                                                   
administration, royalty  auditing, and the  commercial review                                                                   
of development  terms to ensure  the state received  the best                                                                   
possible returns.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  proceeded to slide  28 and highlighted  some of                                                                   
DOG's key  accomplishments. He  emphasized that  the division                                                                   
had collected  $1.8 billion  in royalties, which  represented                                                                   
a critical  portion of  the state's  direct financial  return                                                                   
from oil  and gas  production. He stated  that DNR  worked to                                                                   
maintain  the revenues  from existing  production while  also                                                                   
seeking  to   expand  future  royalty  sources   through  new                                                                   
development.  He noted  that the  final bullet  on the  slide                                                                   
referenced departmental  efforts in  Cook Inlet, which  was a                                                                   
priority  area   for  ensuring  full  development   of  state                                                                   
resources   and  maintaining   adequate  energy  supply   for                                                                   
Alaskans.  He added that  the department  would be  available                                                                   
offline to provide a more detailed briefing on the topic.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  continued to  slide 29 and  stated that  one of                                                                   
the most  exciting accomplishments  was the creation  of four                                                                   
new  units. He  explained  that  a unit  treated  a group  of                                                                   
leases  as a  single  entity  for exploration  and  potential                                                                   
project  development.  The formation  of  new units  signaled                                                                   
new  drilling activity,  which  generated  jobs for  Alaskans                                                                   
and  offered the  possibility of  additional future  projects                                                                   
and royalty revenues for the state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  proceeded to slide  30 and explained  that OPMP                                                                   
played  a  critical  coordination   role  for  the  state  by                                                                   
facilitating  permitting,  reviews, and  information  sharing                                                                   
for   complex   resource   development   and   infrastructure                                                                   
projects. He relayed  that the office supported  both project                                                                   
applicants  and the  public and  ensured coordination  across                                                                   
jurisdictions,    including    local    authorities,    state                                                                   
departments such  as the Department  of Fish and  Game (DFG),                                                                   
the  Department  of Environmental  Conservation  (DEC),  DOT,                                                                   
and some federal agencies.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  advanced  to slide  31 and listed  some  of the                                                                   
major  projects OPMP  had  supported. The  left  side of  the                                                                   
slide displayed  large-scale mining projects  and exploration                                                                   
activities.   He  stated   that  the   office  maintained   a                                                                   
dedicated large  mine permitting  team that worked  to ensure                                                                   
comprehensive,  timely,  and  safe  reviews,  revisions,  and                                                                   
authorizations  of  mining  operations.  The  office  ensured                                                                   
that  operations  could  safely   proceed.  The  office  also                                                                   
played an  important role  in energy  projects such  as Pikka                                                                   
and  Willow. He  relayed  that the  office  had been  heavily                                                                   
involved in  the permitting for  both projects  and expressed                                                                   
hope that  more energy and  infrastructure projects  would be                                                                   
added to the list in the coming years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  noted that  there were several  mines and                                                                   
associated  sites  listed on  the  slide  that he  had  never                                                                   
heard of. He asked for the location of Gil.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther responded  that he was not able to  locate it on                                                                   
a map without assistance and deferred to Mr. Goodrum.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  stated that Gil was  located near Fort  Knox. He                                                                   
explained that it  was a satellite deposit  situated on AMHTA                                                                   
land and that ore  from Gil was transported to  Fort Knox for                                                                   
processing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked where the Johnson Tract was.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum explained  that it  was a  promising Cook  Inlet                                                                   
Regional  Inc (CIRI) property  located  on the opposite  side                                                                   
of Cook Inlet.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked where Anarraaq-Aktigiruq was.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Goodrum   stated   that   the   deposit   was   located                                                                   
approximately  ten miles north  of Red  Dog and was  situated                                                                   
on state land.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  thought that  Red Devil was  near Crooked                                                                   
Creek  and the Donlin  site [he  had confused  Red Devil  and                                                                   
Red Dog, which was later clarified.]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  clarified that Red  Dog was located in  the far                                                                   
northwest region of the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  for more  information  about  the                                                                   
Arctic deposit listed on the slide.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  responded  that Arctic  represented  the  first                                                                   
likely project  in the Ambler  Mining District.  He described                                                                   
the project  as one of  several volcanogenic  massive sulfide                                                                   
deposits in the  area, which included other  projects such as                                                                   
the  Boronite  deposit  located on  Northwest  Alaska  Native                                                                   
Association (NANA)  land. He  stated that multiple  prominent                                                                   
mining projects were  situated in the area,  and that gaining                                                                   
access would be important.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked for  information on the  Accelerate                                                                   
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:47:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  responded that  the Accelerate project  focused                                                                   
on  potential  floating  regasification  facilities  in  Cook                                                                   
Inlet. He  stated that it was  not a traditional oil  and gas                                                                   
field development  but was related  to energy supply  in Cook                                                                   
Inlet. The  entity involved had  sought support from  OPMP to                                                                   
better understand the permitting process.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  asked  whether  there  was  a  general                                                                   
summary  available   of  the  financial  benefits   that  the                                                                   
projects   would  bring   to  Alaska.   He  asked  for   more                                                                   
information  about the  specific fiscal  impacts of  existing                                                                   
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther responded  that project  summaries and  general                                                                   
descriptions  of fiscal benefits  were already available  and                                                                   
that  it  would  likely  be  more   efficient  to  follow  up                                                                   
offline.  He  noted  that  the   projects  generated  revenue                                                                   
through   several  channels,   including  royalty   payments,                                                                   
production  taxes,  corporate   income  taxes,  and  property                                                                   
taxes  paid   to  local  jurisdictions.  He   emphasized  the                                                                   
importance  of  local  employment   particularly  for  mining                                                                   
projects,  which typically  employed  significant numbers  of                                                                   
workers  in  high-paying jobs.  He  added  that oil  and  gas                                                                   
fields  on  the  North Slope  had  a  substantial  employment                                                                   
impact across the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued  on  slide 32.  He  stated  that  an                                                                   
additional    important    responsibility    of   OPMP    was                                                                   
facilitating  and managing the  state's interaction  with the                                                                   
federal    government.     The    responsibility     included                                                                   
participating  as  a  cooperating  agency,  coordinating  the                                                                   
state's comments,  ensuring Alaska's  active role  in federal                                                                   
administrative processes,  and supporting  litigation against                                                                   
the  federal government  in  necessary  instances of  federal                                                                   
overreach  or when  federal  decisions  failed to  adequately                                                                   
consider Alaska's  laws, input,  or needs. He  explained that                                                                   
the  items listed  on the  slide illustrated  several of  the                                                                   
major federal processes  in recent years in  which the office                                                                   
had  coordinated   the  state's  involvement.   Many  of  the                                                                   
federal  actions  had  been viewed  as  imposing  significant                                                                   
restrictions    on   Alaska's    economic   activities    and                                                                   
development   opportunities.   He   noted  that   there   was                                                                   
potential  for change  in  federal  approaches  with the  new                                                                   
federal  administration.  State   coordination  through  OPMP                                                                   
would  remain   crucial  to   ensuring  Alaska's   voice  was                                                                   
incorporated  in  revisions  to  federal  actions,  including                                                                   
those  related  to  the  North  Slope,  the  Bureau  of  Land                                                                   
Management (BLM) plans, and the Izembek land exchange.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson   asked  whether  the  state   still  had                                                                   
representation  in  Washington,  D.C.,  similar to  the  role                                                                   
historically filled by Mr. John Katz.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  confirmed  that  the  governor  maintained  an                                                                   
office in  Washington, D.C. and  stated that Mr.  Jerry Moses                                                                   
currently  served  as  the  Director  of  State  and  Federal                                                                   
Relations.  He   also  noted   that  the  governor   received                                                                   
additional  support  and information  through  various  other                                                                   
resources.   He   affirmed   that    Alaska   remained   well                                                                   
represented   and    positioned   to   take    advantage   of                                                                   
opportunities in the federal sphere.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if the  state office  in Washington                                                                   
D.C. primarily focused on DNR issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  responded  that  the office  covered  a  broad                                                                   
range of topics,  but natural resource use,  development, and                                                                   
access  continued to  be central  issues.  He explained  that                                                                   
the issues  had been foundational  to Alaska's  statehood and                                                                   
remained a core part of the office's work.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  continued on  slide 33.  He explained  that the                                                                   
Alaska   Strategic  Transportation   and  Resources   (ASTAR)                                                                   
project focused  on evaluating options to improve  access for                                                                   
North Slope  communities, many  of which currently  relied on                                                                   
seasonal  winter  trails. The  project  aimed  to assess  the                                                                   
feasibility of  longer-term infrastructure to  better support                                                                   
communities.  He noted  that OPMP housed  the state's  carbon                                                                   
offset team and  that Mr. Trevor Fulton served  as the carbon                                                                   
project manager.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether the  state  continued  to                                                                   
request  direct appropriations  for ASTAR.  He recalled  that                                                                   
several  million dollars  had been allocated  to the  project                                                                   
in past years.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crowther  responded that the  legislature had  provided a                                                                   
sequence  of  capital  appropriations  to support  ASTAR  and                                                                   
that  the work  continued under  those funds.  He noted  that                                                                   
the  project  had  made  significant  progress  in  gathering                                                                   
resource data.  However, no new  appropriation had  been made                                                                   
for the current calendar year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum continued  on  slide 34  and  relayed that  DPOR                                                                   
continued  to operate the  largest state  park system  in the                                                                   
country and that  Alaskans and visitors continued  to utilize                                                                   
the parks in  record numbers. The division  had leveraged its                                                                   
upgraded   reservation  system,   increased  the   number  of                                                                   
commercial and  special permits  issued through a  new online                                                                   
portal,  and installed  90 electronic  fee stations.  The fee                                                                   
stations reduced  the need to  handle cash and  improved both                                                                   
revenue  collection and  security. He  noted that state  park                                                                   
rangers  routinely   provided  law  enforcement   and  public                                                                   
safety services  within the 157  designated state  park units                                                                   
and  often  participated  in  search  and  rescue  operations                                                                   
across the  state. In  the previous  year, rangers  had taken                                                                   
part  in 46  search and  rescue missions.  He expressed  deep                                                                   
gratitude  for  the  dedication   and  service  of  the  park                                                                   
rangers in protecting both citizens and visitors.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum continued  on  slide 35  and  relayed that  DPOR                                                                   
managed  108 active  and pending  outdoor recreation  grants,                                                                   
conducted more than  350 boating safety classes,  and reached                                                                   
over  10,000  participants  through the  programs.  He  noted                                                                   
that the  Office of  History and  Archaeology (OHA)  reviewed                                                                   
1,738  projects  and  signed nine  major  project  agreements                                                                   
through  the State  Historic Preservation  Office (SHPO).  In                                                                   
2025,  the  country  would celebrate  America  250,  and  the                                                                   
Alaska  Historical Commission  (AHC) had  been designated  as                                                                   
the state's  commemoration coordinator  for the  celebration.                                                                   
He added  that the  Office of  Design and Construction  (ODC)                                                                   
were  awarded $10.6  million in  contracts during  FY 24  and                                                                   
completed   nine  construction   projects  during   the  2024                                                                   
calendar year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked from  whom the grants were awarded.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  replied  that  he  would  follow  up  with  the                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked for  more information  about the                                                                   
status of  the regional  State Parks  Advisory Board  (SPAB),                                                                   
which  was   intended  to  consolidate  the   former  Haines,                                                                   
Juneau, and  Ketchikan boards.  She stated that  the regional                                                                   
board  had not  yet formed,  despite plans  to do  so in  the                                                                   
previous  fall. She  noted that  she  had received  inquiries                                                                   
from former  board members. She  also asked for an  update on                                                                   
the  implementation of  signage  at the  expanded Funter  Bay                                                                   
State Marine Park  (FBSMP), which was created  five years ago                                                                   
to preserve  Aleut grave  sites. She  reported that  approval                                                                   
for  the  signage  had  been pending  with  OHA  for  several                                                                   
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goodrum  responded that  he would  follow up and  provide                                                                   
answers to both questions.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:56:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Goodrum  advanced  to  slide  36  and  stated  that  DSS                                                                   
continued to meet  and exceed internal and  external customer                                                                   
needs  over the  past year.  He explained  that the  division                                                                   
contributed  significantly  to  DNR's Future  Leaders  Summit                                                                   
training     through    facilitation,     mentorship,     and                                                                   
coordination.  Many  participants  from earlier  cohorts  had                                                                   
returned to  serve as  instructors and  were helping  to pass                                                                   
along   knowledge  to   new  members.   He  emphasized   that                                                                   
financial  support,  budget  expertise,   procurement,  human                                                                   
resources,  and information  technology  services all  played                                                                   
critical  roles in  ensuring that  the department  functioned                                                                   
smoothly.  He expressed  appreciation  for  the  work of  the                                                                   
department's support services team.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson suggested  that slide  37 only needed  to                                                                   
be briefly  reviewed because the  committee had  recently met                                                                   
with AMHTA.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Crowther  continued  to  slide  37  and  explained  that                                                                   
AMTHA's  TLO  managed  natural   resource  land  holdings  on                                                                   
behalf  of   trust  beneficiaries  receiving   mental  health                                                                   
services  in Alaska. The  office used  appropriated  funds to                                                                   
conduct   activities  that   generated   revenue  for   trust                                                                   
programs  as part  of its  zero-based  budgeting process.  In                                                                   
the  prior year,  the  trust generated  $17  million for  its                                                                   
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle continued  to  slide 38.  He  reiterated that  the                                                                   
department   had  a   constitutional   mandate  to   develop,                                                                   
conserve,  and   maximize  Alaska's  natural   resources  for                                                                   
public benefit.  He stated that  DNR took its  responsibility                                                                   
seriously    and    remained     committed    to    expanding                                                                   
opportunities,  attracting investment,  fostering a  stronger                                                                   
business  climate,  and  creating jobs.  He  emphasized  that                                                                   
through effective  stewardship of state lands  and resources,                                                                   
the department sought  to generate new revenue  and long-term                                                                   
economic  value  for  Alaska.  He relayed  that  he  and  the                                                                   
governor had  recently traveled  to the United  Arab Emirates                                                                   
(UAE)  where  they met  with  a  number of  large  investment                                                                   
firms. He  shared that outside  investors tended  to overlook                                                                   
Alaska  when   considering  resource-rich  states   and  that                                                                   
Texas,  New  Mexico,  and  North Dakota  were  often  at  the                                                                   
forefront  of  investors'  minds.  He  emphasized  that  many                                                                   
investors did  not always  recognize the significant  mineral                                                                   
endowment  of the state  or the  opportunities available  for                                                                   
Alaska to play a larger role in the global economy.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  highlighted that Alaska's  ability to  provide raw                                                                   
natural resources  had always  been important. He  noted that                                                                   
there was also  a desire to help the state  transition into a                                                                   
value-added manufacturing  hub, including  enhancing refining                                                                   
and processing  capabilities, utilizing locally  grown timber                                                                   
for  lumber,   and  improving  food  security   by  expanding                                                                   
agricultural  initiatives.   The  overarching  goal   was  to                                                                   
diversify and grow  the state's economy, which  would provide                                                                   
opportunities   for  current   and   future  generations   of                                                                   
Alaskans to stay  in the state and be gainfully  employed. He                                                                   
was  optimistic  about the  next  four  years under  the  new                                                                   
federal  administration.  He  hoped  the  new  administration                                                                   
would allow more  access to state lands and  resources, which                                                                   
would allow  Alaska to  be "masters of  our own  destiny" and                                                                   
provide  the state  the  ability to  manage  and develop  its                                                                   
resources as needed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:02:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson thanked  the  presenters. He  appreciated                                                                   
Mr. Boyle's  earlier comments  about his  deep affection  for                                                                   
the department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB  53   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  55   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the agenda for the afternoon's                                                                      
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:03:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:03 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DNR HFIN FY 26 Dept Budget and Overview 2.12.2025_final.pdf HFIN 2/12/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 53
HB 55