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02/05/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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03:00:19 PM Adjourn
01:32:48 PM Start
01:34:14 PM HB53 || HB55
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+= HB 53 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Alaska Mental Health Trust TELECONFERENCED
Authority by Mary Wilson, Chief Executive
Officer; and Brent Fisher, Chair, Board of
Trustees
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 5, 2025                                                                                           
                         1:32 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  called   the  House  Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 1:32 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jeremy Bynum                                                                                                     
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Nellie Unangiq Jimmie                                                                                            
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Brent  Fisher,  Chair,  Board  of  Trustees,  Alaska  Mental                                                                    
Health  Trust   Authority;  Mary  Wilson,   Chief  Executive                                                                    
Officer,  Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust  Authority;  Allison                                                                    
Biastock,  Chief   Communications  Officer,   Alaska  Mental                                                                    
Health  Trust Authority;  Jusdi Warner,  Executive Director,                                                                    
Trust  Land Office,  Alaska Mental  Health Trust  Authority;                                                                    
Julee Farley, Chief Financial  Officer, Alaska Mental Health                                                                    
Trust  Authority;  Katie  Baldwin-Johnson,  Chief  Operating                                                                    
Officer, Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB 53     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB 53 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 55     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 55 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:34:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT  FISHER,  CHAIR,  BOARD  OF  TRUSTEES,  ALASKA  MENTAL                                                                    
HEALTH   TRUST   AUTHORITY,    introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation  "Alaska Mental  Health Trust  Authority" dated                                                                    
February 5, 2025 (copy on file).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fisher continued  on  slide 2  and  explained that  the                                                                    
board  of trustees  was an  independent board  that provided                                                                    
governance,  fiduciary,  oversight,  and  direction  to  the                                                                    
organization  in   achieving  the  mission  of   the  trust.                                                                    
Trustees  had  five-year terms  and  were  appointed by  the                                                                    
governor and confirmed by the legislature.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher advanced  to slide 3 and explained  that that the                                                                    
board  considered Alaskans  who  had any  of the  conditions                                                                    
listed on  the slide to  be the beneficiaries of  the trust.                                                                    
The board  supported both youth and  adult beneficiaries and                                                                    
prioritized  individuals whose  behavioral health  condition                                                                    
or  developmental   disability  placed   them  at   risk  of                                                                    
institutionalization if  they did  not receive  proper care.                                                                    
The trust  was also committed to  preventing conditions from                                                                    
occurring when  possible. He emphasized that  improving life                                                                    
and  health outcomes  for beneficiaries  was central  to the                                                                    
trust's mission.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher continued  to slide 4 and described  the trust as                                                                    
a state  corporation that administered a  perpetual trust to                                                                    
improve  the  lives  of its  beneficiaries.  The  trust  was                                                                    
unique in  that it  was an  independent entity  within state                                                                    
government that  used the  proceeds from  its land  and cash                                                                    
assets  to provide  a comprehensive  suite of  mental health                                                                    
and  disability   services  to   meet  the  needs   of  both                                                                    
beneficiaries  and communities.  The trust  funded its  work                                                                    
through grant  making and by advancing  initiatives aimed at                                                                    
improving the  system of care.  Although the  trust operated                                                                    
independently, it  partnered closely  with the  state, local                                                                    
governments,   nonprofits,   tribal  partners,   and   other                                                                    
providers to fulfill its mission.  The trust prioritized its                                                                    
resources   for   system   improvements,   innovation,   and                                                                    
strategic initiatives. An important  entity within the trust                                                                    
was  the Trust  Land  Office (TLO),  which  managed about  1                                                                    
million acres of land and  other non-cash assets to generate                                                                    
revenue for the trust.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher  explained that  he would show  a short  video on                                                                    
slide 5.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:38:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher played the video  on slide 5. The video explained                                                                    
that the trust was created  in 1994 after a legal settlement                                                                    
between   beneficiary  groups   and  the   Alaska.  In   the                                                                    
settlement, the state  granted the trust 1  million acres of                                                                    
land and  $200 million  in cash, making  the trust  the only                                                                    
one of its kind in the  country. The video also compared the                                                                    
trust to a  garden where cash, land,  buildings, and natural                                                                    
resources  like gold,  coal, and  timber were  cultivated to                                                                    
generate   money  for   beneficiary-related  programs.   The                                                                    
trust's  funds were  managed by  the  Alaska Permanent  Fund                                                                    
Corporation  (APFC) and  its land  and non-cash  assets were                                                                    
managed by TLO. The trust  played a critical role in funding                                                                    
programs   that  improved   the   lives  of   beneficiaries,                                                                    
including individuals  with mental  illnesses, developmental                                                                    
disabilities, chronic substance  abuse, Alzheimer's disease,                                                                    
and traumatic  brain injuries. The  trust awarded  more than                                                                    
$20 million annually in grants  and was actively involved in                                                                    
advocacy,  policy planning,  and  ensuring the  state had  a                                                                    
comprehensive mental health program.  The trust also focused                                                                    
on  key   efforts  like   substance  abuse   prevention  and                                                                    
treatment,  housing,  employment,  long-term  services,  and                                                                    
disability justice.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fisher  concluded by  inviting  everyone  to visit  the                                                                    
trust's website for more information.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  thanked  the   presenters  and  liked  the                                                                    
simplicity of the video.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY WILSON,  CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ALASKA  MENTAL HEALTH                                                                    
TRUST AUTHORITY, introduced herself.  She explained that she                                                                    
had been  in the CEO  role for  only two weeks.  She relayed                                                                    
that she grew  up in Alaska because her father  moved to the                                                                    
state during  the oil  boom. She  had graduated  from Dimond                                                                    
High School  and attended medical  school at  the University                                                                    
of  Washington  through  the  Washington,  Wyoming,  Alaska,                                                                    
Montana, and  Idaho (WWAMI) program. She  worked with Kaiser                                                                    
Permanente's  Medical  Group,  where she  took  on  multiple                                                                    
leadership  roles   that  prepared   her  for   her  current                                                                    
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  explained  that  during   her  time  at  Kaiser                                                                    
Permanente, she  grew into various leadership  positions and                                                                    
managed hospitals,  clinics, and  medical staff.  She shared                                                                    
that  she  learned  a  great   deal  about  population  care                                                                    
management, prevention,  and outcome management, as  well as                                                                    
managing people.  She emphasized that listening  to patients                                                                    
to understand their needs and  desires was another important                                                                    
lesson that would serve her well in Alaska.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  explained that while  it is essential  to manage                                                                    
crises  effectively, prevention  was just  as important.  By                                                                    
preventing crises before they  occur and addressing the root                                                                    
causes,  health care  providers  could  improve the  overall                                                                    
health  of  the  population.  She noted  that  factors  like                                                                    
social   determinants  of   health  and   lifestyle  choices                                                                    
accounted for 80 percent of  a population's health outcomes,                                                                    
which was why those aspects needed to be prioritized.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  shared that she  was excited about the  work the                                                                    
trust was already doing. The  trust's focus on both managing                                                                    
crises and  preventing them aligned  well with  her personal                                                                    
philosophy of  health care.  Although she  had only  been in                                                                    
the  role for  two weeks,  she expressed  confidence in  the                                                                    
team she was working with.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   remarked   that  her   resume   was                                                                    
impressive.  He   asked  about  the  decisions   behind  the                                                                    
advertising campaign  from the trust  and noted that  he had                                                                    
seen ads  frequently on YouTube.  He asked why  the campaign                                                                    
was initiated  as he  had not encountered  ads by  the trust                                                                    
before.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson deferred the question to her colleague.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ALLISON  BIASTOCK,  CHIEF   COMMUNICATIONS  OFFICER,  ALASKA                                                                    
MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY, explained  that the trust was                                                                    
currently running an active campaign  aimed at educating the                                                                    
public about  the connection between  trust lands  and their                                                                    
purpose. The  campaign highlighted how funds  generated from                                                                    
the  lands supported  grant-making and  trust beneficiaries.                                                                    
She  clarified  that  the  ads  were not  new,  and  it  was                                                                    
possible that  Representative Stapp had encountered  the ads                                                                    
on  some  of  the  digital platforms  where  the  trust  had                                                                    
targeted its ad buys. She  added that the trust also engaged                                                                    
in  media campaigns  focused on  reducing stigma,  which had                                                                    
been running for some time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:47:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  continued on  slide 7  to discuss  the financial                                                                    
position  of the  trust. She  explained that  the trust  had                                                                    
experienced   steady  growth   in  its   assets  since   its                                                                    
inception, which  reflected sound  management by  the board.                                                                    
As of  the end  of the  last fiscal  year, the  trust's cash                                                                    
resources and  investments totaled  $788.5 million,  with an                                                                    
additional  $59.8 million  in real  estate equity,  bringing                                                                    
total  assets  to  $848 million.  The  total  represented  a                                                                    
modest increase  from the previous year,  where total assets                                                                    
had  amounted  to  $818  million.  The  trust's  corpus  was                                                                    
managed  by APFC  and stood  at $551  million, which  was an                                                                    
increase  from $538  million the  previous  year. Since  its                                                                    
inception  in 1996,  the corpus  had grown  due to  revenues                                                                    
from activities  on trust lands and  permanent transfers for                                                                    
inflation proofing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  continued  that  the  trust  used  a  four-year                                                                    
average  to  calculate  its annual  budget  withdrawal.  The                                                                    
approach  ensured  that  the trust  remained  a  stable  and                                                                    
reliable  funding partner  for Alaska's  beneficiary-serving                                                                    
organizations.  The  blue bar  on  the  chart on  the  slide                                                                    
represented  the reserves  held  by the  trust to  guarantee                                                                    
spending  for  beneficiaries,  even  in  periods  of  market                                                                    
downturn.  The   trust  had   $108  million   in  unrealized                                                                    
appreciation,  represented   by  the  red   bar.  Unrealized                                                                    
appreciation  was   based  on  market  value   and  was  not                                                                    
available for spending until realized,  as determined by the                                                                    
APFC  investment  team.  She  added  that  the  real  estate                                                                    
equity, represented  by the  dark blue  bar, stood  at $59.8                                                                    
million.  She reiterated  that the  trust owned  one million                                                                    
acres of  land, although the  land was not reflected  in the                                                                    
chart.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage asked  why the  value of  the one  million                                                                    
acre of trust land was not included on the chart.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  responded that the  lands were valued at  $1 per                                                                    
acre  for  simplicity, but  the  figure  did not  accurately                                                                    
reflect the true worth of the  lands. She noted that some of                                                                    
the  land was  empty and  some  was accessible,  and it  was                                                                    
difficult  to  estimate an  accurate  market  value for  the                                                                    
lands.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage asked  where the $1 per  acre valuation had                                                                    
originated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  replied that it  was a general use  value figure                                                                    
that had been used for a long time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage asked  if there  had been  any efforts  to                                                                    
develop a more accurate method for valuing the land.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson deferred the question.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSDI WARNER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  TRUST LAND OFFICE, ALASKA                                                                    
MENTAL HEALTH  TRUST AUTHORITY, explained  that in  order to                                                                    
obtain an  actual value  for the million  acres of  land and                                                                    
resources,  an   appraisal  would  be   necessary.  However,                                                                    
appraising  such  a large  amount  of  land would  be  cost-                                                                    
prohibitive.  There  were  very few  appraisers  in  Alaska,                                                                    
making it nearly impossible to conduct such an appraisal.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  noted  that  land  in  Fairbanks  was                                                                    
priced much  higher at  around $20,000  per a  half-acre. He                                                                    
asked where  the "abundance of  cheap" $1 per acre  land was                                                                    
located.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  responded that before  the trust sold  any land,                                                                    
it  was  appraised  and  sold at  market  value,  which  was                                                                    
sometimes simply  what someone  was willing  to pay  for the                                                                    
land.  The $1  per acre  valuation was  a simple  book value                                                                    
applied  at  the  time  the  trust  received  the  land  and                                                                    
resources. The  valuation was based on  the best information                                                                    
available at  the time of  the transactions,  which occurred                                                                    
over 30 years ago. She  added that the situation had changed                                                                    
since then.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked if the  trust was selling land at                                                                    
$1 per acre. He thought there seemed to be confusion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner responded that no land  was being sold for $1 per                                                                    
acre.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  commented  that  the  situation  might  be                                                                    
similar to how the university dealt with land on its books.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson agreed that  Co-Chair Foster was probably                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:53:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  recalled a  past sale of  a prominent                                                                    
piece of  trust land  in the community,  which had  sold for                                                                    
nearly  four times  its appraised  value. She  asked if  Ms.                                                                    
Warner could provide more information.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner responded  that the  appraisal for  the property                                                                    
had now become  public. She could confirm  that the property                                                                    
had been appraised in the  lower millions, but the trust had                                                                    
sold it for $20 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  understood   that  TLO  employees  were                                                                    
housed  in the  Department  of Natural  Resources (DNR)  but                                                                    
paid using trust assets.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner responded that his understanding was correct.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson continued  on slide 8 which  detailed the trust's                                                                    
commercial real  estate investment.  She explained  that the                                                                    
assets  were  actively  managed by  TLO  professionals.  The                                                                    
board of trustees  had previously determined that  it was in                                                                    
the  trust's  best  interest to  sell  the  commercial  real                                                                    
estate portfolio  as it had  met its  investment objectives.                                                                    
The  properties were  originally  purchased  with a  holding                                                                    
period of  7 to 20 years  and the newest property  was now 8                                                                    
years old,  meaning all properties had  reached the expected                                                                    
holding period. Two properties had  already been sold, which                                                                    
resulted in  gains for the  trust, and there  were currently                                                                    
four properties  remaining in the portfolio.  She noted that                                                                    
three of the properties were  in Alaska, but one was located                                                                    
in Texas.  The trust had  voted to cease the  acquisition of                                                                    
any  new  commercial real  estate  properties  for the  time                                                                    
being.  She  noted  that  the  properties  had  higher-than-                                                                    
average   occupancy  rates.   The  national   benchmark  for                                                                    
occupancy  set  by  the  National  Council  of  Real  Estate                                                                    
Investment  Fiduciaries  was  around   80  percent  and  the                                                                    
trust's properties had an occupancy rate of 92 percent.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked how trust land  was acquired in                                                                    
Texas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner  responded  that  it was  a  trust  decision  to                                                                    
purchase commercial real estate outside of Alaska.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson continued  on slide  9. She  explained that  the                                                                    
slide  illustrated how  the trust  determined its  available                                                                    
funding.  The  calculation  used  to  determine  the  annual                                                                    
budget for  the upcoming  fiscal year  was presented  on the                                                                    
left  side of  the slide.  She relayed  that the  amount was                                                                    
projected to  be $39.9 million  in FY  26. The chart  on the                                                                    
right showed that  the trust continued to  see stable growth                                                                    
in its available funding thanks to the use of averaging.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson noted that in late  FY 24, the board had approved                                                                    
an  update  to the  formula  used  to determine  the  annual                                                                    
expenditure  amount.  For  future  revenue  calculations,  a                                                                    
four-year  average  would  be   used  for  invested  assets.                                                                    
However, the  calculation would also incorporate  a two-year                                                                    
average of both TLO income  from the prior years' unexpended                                                                    
funds and  the actual interest  income from the  most recent                                                                    
fiscal  years.   The  changes  were  intended   to  increase                                                                    
certainty for the annual  revenue calculation without having                                                                    
any negative impact.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson explained that the  largest portion of the budget                                                                    
was funded  through a withdrawal  from the  trust's invested                                                                    
assets, which was calculated as  4.25 percent of the average                                                                    
value  from the  previous four  years. She  stated that  the                                                                    
two-year average of prior funds  were carried forward, which                                                                    
included grants  from prior  years that  had not  been fully                                                                    
expended.  She relayed  that  it was  not  uncommon for  all                                                                    
budgeted   funds  to   not  be   utilized  due   to  various                                                                    
circumstances.  Unused  grant  funds rolled  back  into  the                                                                    
annual spending  calculation and  the process would  be made                                                                    
quicker  due to  the  new two-year  average carried  forward                                                                    
funds. The  TLO's spendable income  also contributed  to the                                                                    
available spend  estimate, which was  shown on the  slide as                                                                    
$4.2  million  and was  based  on  a two-year  average.  The                                                                    
available  funding  also  included nearly  $1.8  million  in                                                                    
interest earning.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson   noted  that   the  committee   had  previously                                                                    
expressed  an interest  in learning  more about  the trust's                                                                    
payout. She explained that the  payout rate had started at 3                                                                    
percent annually  at the fund's inception  and had gradually                                                                    
increased over  time to  the current  rate of  4.25 percent.                                                                    
The trustees were presently  in discussions with consultants                                                                    
from Callan to examine trust  spending and help determine if                                                                    
changes to the payout percentages  were in the best interest                                                                    
of both current and future trust beneficiaries.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage remarked  that he was learning  a lot about                                                                    
the  trust  and was  trying  to  wrap  his mind  around  its                                                                    
mission, how it  functioned, and how the amount  to be spent                                                                    
was  determined. He  understood the  rationale behind  the 4                                                                    
percent  withdrawal   from  investment  earnings   to  avoid                                                                    
depleting  the  corpus  and   maintain  steady  funding.  He                                                                    
requested more  information on whether  the trust  spent the                                                                    
profits from sources like real  estate transactions from the                                                                    
prior year, in addition to  the 4.25 percent from investment                                                                    
earning.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson responded  not all of the income  provided by TLO                                                                    
from  real  estate  and other  sources  was  spendable.  She                                                                    
explained that a  portion of the funding went  back into the                                                                    
principal, which  was mandated  by statute. The  real estate                                                                    
portion  included  only  the  spendable  income,  which  was                                                                    
related to the status of  leases. She noted that income that                                                                    
was  considered royalties  went into  the corpus.  She added                                                                    
that  TLO's spending  decisions  were more  complex and  she                                                                    
offered to follow up with  information on the different ways                                                                    
TLO distributed its funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage  asked whether there was  a consistent flow                                                                    
of  spendable income  coming from  TLO each  year or  if the                                                                    
income  was more  volatile, depending  on  market phases  or                                                                    
other developments.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  responded that while  the 4.25 percent  from the                                                                    
corpus was relatively steady, other  income such as interest                                                                    
earnings  was subject  to  market  volatility. The  two-year                                                                    
averaging system  was designed  to reduce volatility  in the                                                                    
spending, which  helped maintain  a more consistent  flow of                                                                    
available funds.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin understood that  $3.6 million would be                                                                    
carried forward.  She asked  if it  was typically  around 10                                                                    
percent of the overall  investment in mental health services                                                                    
that was expected to carry forward.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  responded that  she could  provide the  data for                                                                    
the  last 10  years in  writing. She  had observed  that the                                                                    
carry-forward  amount had  been fairly  consistent, but  she                                                                    
wanted to ensure she provided accurate information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  remarked   that  she   thought  the                                                                    
intention  was to  spend all  available  funds, rather  than                                                                    
carry them forward.  She was curious why  funds were carried                                                                    
forward and  suggested having a  discussion on the  topic at                                                                    
some  point in  the future.  She  referred to  the chart  on                                                                    
slide  7  that illustrated  the  four-year  average used  to                                                                    
determine the  annual expenditure amount. She  asked whether                                                                    
an increase  in the  available funding for  FY 26  should be                                                                    
expected  given  the  market's strong  performance  and  the                                                                    
significant  growth in  the corpus  that was  represented by                                                                    
the green bars on the chart.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson deferred the question.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:03:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULEE FARLEY,  TRUST CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER,  ALASKA MENTAL                                                                    
HEALTH   TRUST  AUTHORITY,   explained  that   the  trustees                                                                    
approved the  budget in  August every year,  but for  FY 26,                                                                    
the final June 30, 2024,  values of the Permanent Fund would                                                                    
not  be known  until September  15, 2025.  Since the  fiscal                                                                    
year for the  trust ended on June 30, the  trust had to look                                                                    
at the  values from the  previous year when  determining the                                                                    
budget  for FY  26.  The uncertainty  meant  that the  trust                                                                    
could  not include  the final  values from  the year  ending                                                                    
June 30, 2024, in the calculations.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  whether  the  Permanent  Fund                                                                    
mentioned referred to the corpus of the trust.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Farley   responded  that   APFC  managed   the  trust's                                                                    
principal and reserves by statute.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin understood  that  the information  on                                                                    
the corpus  came from APFC,  and the  trust had to  wait for                                                                    
the corporation to provide the data.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Farley  added  that  the  timing  was  associated  with                                                                    
receiving information from  APFC, which was why  there was a                                                                    
slight delay in using the most current data.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin commented  that  she  had expected  a                                                                    
higher increase  than the $1  million bump in  the available                                                                    
funding given  the positive performance  over the  last four                                                                    
years. She appreciated the clarification.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson continued  on slide  10  and the  trust's FY  26                                                                    
spending allocations.  She emphasized that the  trust entire                                                                    
budget  was  self-funded,  and  it did  not  rely  on  state                                                                    
general fund dollars. She clarified  that only the board had                                                                    
the authority to  spend trust funds, and  every increment in                                                                    
the budget  had been  approved by  the trustees.  The budget                                                                    
development  process was  done in  close collaboration  with                                                                    
state    agencies,    providers,    tribal    organizations,                                                                    
nonprofits, beneficiaries, and other partners.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  explained that the  FY 26 budget  totaled around                                                                    
$40 million.  The largest portion,  represented by  the dark                                                                    
green  section   of  the  pie  chart,   was  designated  for                                                                    
authority grants,  which were  trust grants  awarded outside                                                                    
the   state  budgeting   process   and   went  directly   to                                                                    
beneficiary-serving  partners in  the community.  The yellow                                                                    
slice   represented  the   Mental  Health   Trust  Authority                                                                    
Authorized  Receipts  (MHTAAR)   grants,  which  were  trust                                                                    
grants  to state  agencies. She  indicated  that all  MHTAAR                                                                    
increments  were required  to be  part of  the state  budget                                                                    
process  and  the  legislature  needed  to  provide  receipt                                                                    
authority for the trust funds  to be used for the designated                                                                    
purposes.  The grants  reflected a  long-standing commitment                                                                    
to state  partners that  played a  critical role  in serving                                                                    
beneficiaries.  Since the  trust's inception,  approximately                                                                    
$270  million  had been  granted  to  state agencies.  Trust                                                                    
funds  were intended  to support  state funding  rather than                                                                    
replace  it. The  trust's annual  budget represented  only a                                                                    
small  fraction of  the total  state  spending dedicated  to                                                                    
supporting the health and wellness of Alaskans.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  noted that the  chart also showed  the remaining                                                                    
slices  of the  budget,  which  represented the  operational                                                                    
expenses of  both the trust  and TLO. The  expenses included                                                                    
advocacy   and  systems   change   efforts,  grant   funding                                                                    
administration, and the management  and development of trust                                                                    
lands.  The trust  employed 17  full-time employees  and TLO                                                                    
employed 19 full-time employees.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson continued  to slide  11  which provided  further                                                                    
details on  the MHTARR slice of  the pie graph on  slide 10.                                                                    
She relayed that  there was $10.2 million  in MHTAAR funding                                                                    
which was  allocated to numerous state  partners through the                                                                    
state's   budget  process.   There  were   over  50   MHTAAR                                                                    
increments that had  been transmitted to be  included in the                                                                    
FY 26  budget. The funds would  support various initiatives,                                                                    
including  capital funds  for  programs  working with  trust                                                                    
beneficiaries, training programs  for workforce development,                                                                    
data and  planning efforts, and  fund positions  in multiple                                                                    
departments focused on beneficiary issues.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  understood that it was  common for the                                                                    
trust  to make  recommendations  on how  the MHTAAR  funding                                                                    
should be  spent. He stated  it was primarily  because AMHTA                                                                    
used  zero based  budgeting,  while the  state  did not.  He                                                                    
asked  how many  times over  the last  few years  had MHTAAR                                                                    
funding  disappeared  after  the trust  had  encouraged  the                                                                    
state to start a new program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATIE  BALDWIN-JOHNSON,  CHIEF   OPERATING  OFFICER,  ALASKA                                                                    
MENTAL  HEALTH  TRUST  AUTHORITY, offered  to  conduct  some                                                                    
reflective  research  on  the issue.  The  trust's  role  in                                                                    
funding  initiatives  was   to  provide  catalytic  support,                                                                    
especially when  launching new programs. She  clarified that                                                                    
the trust  would typically help  fund a program  for several                                                                    
years to get it established  and ensure that it became solid                                                                    
and sustainable.  After the initial period,  the state would                                                                    
assume  responsibility  for  the continued  funding  of  the                                                                    
program.  The  approach  was  designed  to  help  transition                                                                    
programs to  long-term sustainability,  and it was  a common                                                                    
strategy for the trust. She  emphasized that while the trust                                                                    
provided  initial   support,  the  responsibility   for  the                                                                    
ongoing funding would  eventually shift to the  state as new                                                                    
programs were launched and stabilized.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked for  more information  about the                                                                    
trust's budgetary  process and  how long the  trust intended                                                                    
to support  new programs.  He asked  if there  were specific                                                                    
guidelines or  considerations for  determining how  long the                                                                    
trust would  help fund the  initiatives and  programs before                                                                    
transitioning them to the state.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baldwin-Johnson  responded that  when the trust  and its                                                                    
trustees considered  supporting larger initiatives,  it gave                                                                    
careful consideration  to the long-term commitment  of trust                                                                    
funds and  the eventual transition to  sustainability. Every                                                                    
budget process  involved thoughtful  deliberation of  how to                                                                    
manage  the  trust's  resources,   with  a  focus  on  being                                                                    
conservative  in  making  recommendations for  general  fund                                                                    
support.  The goal  was always  to ensure  that trust  funds                                                                    
were used  effectively and  that programs  were transitioned                                                                    
responsibly to the state once the funds were established.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked if there was  any information on                                                                    
the  trust's website  or budget  documents  that stated  how                                                                    
long  the   trust  planned  to  fund   the  Alaska  Training                                                                    
Cooperative (ATC). He asked whether  it was for a few budget                                                                    
cycles,  a  one-time  contribution,  or  for  an  indefinite                                                                    
period.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baldwin-Johnson responded  that there  was no  specific                                                                    
document outlining  the duration of the  trust's funding for                                                                    
the cooperative.  She explained that the  trust had launched                                                                    
the  cooperative with  significant  investment  of over  $10                                                                    
million, which was intended to  support the ATC in providing                                                                    
crucial  training  to  the workforce  serving  beneficiaries                                                                    
across the state. Additionally,  various state divisions and                                                                    
departments  benefited  from  the cooperative's  work.  Over                                                                    
time,  other   funding  sources   had  contributed   to  the                                                                    
cooperative,    including    state   general    funds    and                                                                    
contributions  from other  partners  and  foundations. As  a                                                                    
result, the trust had reduced  its financial commitment over                                                                    
the  years and  transitioned the  funding responsibility  to                                                                    
additional contributors.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  asked  for  more  information  about  the                                                                    
current role  of the  trust and how  to determine  what part                                                                    
the trust  played in addressing mental  health challenges in                                                                    
Alaska. He  asked how to  differentiate between  the state's                                                                    
role  and  the trust's  role,  especially  when it  came  to                                                                    
funding and  delivering mental health services.  He wondered                                                                    
if the  trust's primary  responsibility was to  initiate and                                                                    
support programs or whether it  should be viewed as the main                                                                    
funder and  provider of core  services. He  acknowledged the                                                                    
complex history of  the trust and was  seeking to understand                                                                    
its role  today, specifically in  comparison to  the state's                                                                    
responsibilities in addressing mental health issues.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Wilson   responded   that   the   trust's   role   was                                                                    
multifaceted.  The trust  had a  responsibility to  directly                                                                    
allocate funds through  authority grants, but it  also had a                                                                    
statutory  obligation  to  provide  recommendations  to  the                                                                    
state  on the  use of  general fund  dollars for  supporting                                                                    
beneficiaries.  The  trust's   involvement  in  both  direct                                                                    
funding  and recommending  state allocations  allowed it  to                                                                    
utilize  its  expertise  and partnerships  to  advocate  for                                                                    
programs that would help  beneficiaries. She emphasized that                                                                    
the trust's role was not  just to provide direct funding but                                                                    
also  to   ensure  strategic  thinking  and   innovation  in                                                                    
addressing mental health challenges.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson understood that  there were three funding                                                                    
buckets:   authority   grants,   MHTAAR  grants,   and   the                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson responded in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  continued  on  slide   12  which  included  the                                                                    
trustee's  FY   26  operating   and  capital   general  fund                                                                    
expenditure  recommendations.   She  highlighted   that  the                                                                    
governor's proposed budget had  included about 35 percent of                                                                    
the  trust's recommendations,  with  most  of the  operating                                                                    
budget  and  mental   health-related  recommendations  being                                                                    
included. One of  the items included in  the proposed budget                                                                    
was the Crisis  Call Center, which had  a $750,000 increment                                                                    
with an MHTAAR  match. The initiative had  been developed in                                                                    
partnership with  the Department  of Health (DOH)  and aimed                                                                    
to support  the ongoing implementation of  behavioral health                                                                    
crisis  response services.  The  funds would  assist in  the                                                                    
establishment  of crisis  call  centers  and provide  direct                                                                    
intervention  services,   warm  talk  lines,   referrals  to                                                                    
treatment,  and recovery  supports  for trust  beneficiaries                                                                    
dealing   with  severe   mental  illnesses,   substance  use                                                                    
disorders,  and at-risk  youth.  She expressed  appreciation                                                                    
that  the  program  had  been  included  in  the  governor's                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  relayed that another recommendation  was funding                                                                    
the  Alaska  Housing  Finance Corporation's  (AHFC)  special                                                                    
needs  housing grants  (SNUG)  and  the Homeless  Assistance                                                                    
Program  (HAP)  grants.  The  programs  primarily  supported                                                                    
permanent  supportive  housing, emergency  and  transitional                                                                    
housing   services,  and   provided  resources   to  prevent                                                                    
homelessness  and  rapidly  rehouse  displaced  individuals.                                                                    
Both  programs  had  been longstanding  priorities  for  the                                                                    
trust, but the  governor's FY 26 budget did  not include the                                                                    
trust's  recommended   general  fund  allocations   for  the                                                                    
programs.  She relayed  that the  Office  of Management  and                                                                    
Budget (OMB) had indicated that  AHFC's contributions to the                                                                    
programs had  increased, leading  to an overall  increase in                                                                    
funding for the programs compared  to the previous year. The                                                                    
budget process was  still in its early stages  and the trust                                                                    
planned to  continue its collaboration with  the legislature                                                                    
about  the recommendations  and  their  potential impact  on                                                                    
trust beneficiaries.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:18:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  asked whether the trust  would provide                                                                    
an  additional presentation  in  the future  to discuss  the                                                                    
housing programs  and home modification initiatives  in more                                                                    
depth, particularly the SNUG and HAP grants.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  replied that the  trust could return for  a more                                                                    
detailed   discussion  if   needed  or   provide  additional                                                                    
information in writing upon request.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson noted  that AHFC  often gave  a separate                                                                    
presentation to  the committee. He  assumed that  AHFC would                                                                    
provide a deeper dive into  the SNUG and homeless assistance                                                                    
programs during their presentation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair Foster remarked that he  was surprised that HAP had                                                                    
not  been  fully  funded, especially  given  the  heightened                                                                    
attention to homelessness  in the state in  recent years. He                                                                    
was  concerned  about  the reduction  in  funding  for  home                                                                    
modifications and upgrades. He asked  if Ms. Wilson knew the                                                                    
previous year's request and the actual amount funded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson responded  that she did not  have the information                                                                    
readily available  but would follow up.  She emphasized that                                                                    
the budget was  still in development and the  figures on the                                                                    
chart could change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  recalled that  Ms. Wilson  had mentioned                                                                    
that  one item  was 35  percent  funded. He  asked for  more                                                                    
information on the item.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson responded that the  35 percent figure referred to                                                                    
the overall  percentage of the trust's  recommendations that                                                                    
had been included in the  proposed budget, with the majority                                                                    
of  the funding  allocated  to the  operating budget  rather                                                                    
than the capital budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:20:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  continued to slide  13 and detailed  the trust's                                                                    
focus  areas and  priorities. The  focus areas  aligned with                                                                    
the  populations the  trust served  and included  disability                                                                    
justice, mental health  and addiction intervention including                                                                    
the  behavioral  health  response crisis  team,  beneficiary                                                                    
employment and  engagement, housing and home  and community-                                                                    
based services,  workforce development, and  early childhood                                                                    
intervention and  prevention. She  explained that  the focus                                                                    
areas  and   priorities  ensured  that  the   trust  took  a                                                                    
strategic approach toward  meeting beneficiary needs through                                                                    
both  grant-making  and  advocacy   work  aimed  at  systems                                                                    
change.  Over  time, the  priorities  had  evolved and  were                                                                    
shaped  by  stakeholder  engagement and  guidance  from  the                                                                    
trustees.  As  part  of   the  budgeting  process,  trustees                                                                    
approved spending in each of the areas every fiscal year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson relayed  that each of the focus  areas within the                                                                    
budget  aligned with  the  state's Comprehensive  Integrated                                                                    
Mental Health Program  Plan [referred to as  the Comp Plan].                                                                    
She thanked DOH  and the Department of  Family and Community                                                                    
Services  (DFCS) for  their  partnership  in finalizing  the                                                                    
most  recent   Comp  Plan  the  previous   fall.  The  trust                                                                    
supported the  effort and worked  closely with the  state in                                                                    
developing and implementing it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson advanced  to slide 14 which  detailed the trust's                                                                    
FY 24 grant  awards across its focus and  priority areas. In                                                                    
FY 24,  the trust awarded 192  grants totaling approximately                                                                    
$24  million.  The  map  on  the  slide  displayed  17  dots                                                                    
representing the  locations of  the grants,  but it  did not                                                                    
include many grants  with a statewide impact,  such as those                                                                    
supporting university workforce  training, reentry programs,                                                                    
mental  health  services  for inmates  and  reentrants,  and                                                                    
expanding  access to  developmental  screenings for  infants                                                                    
and  children.  She  explained  that  the  types  of  grants                                                                    
awarded  provided support  to everything  from planning  and                                                                    
data  needs to  services,  facilities, and  the training  of                                                                    
quality staff  who directly  worked with  beneficiaries. The                                                                    
trust prioritized spending that could  act as a catalyst for                                                                    
system  improvement,   and  its   grant  funds   were  often                                                                    
leveraged with other community funders.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  continued to  slide 15 and  relayed that  one of                                                                    
the trust's  key initiatives was  to improve  the behavioral                                                                    
health  care crisis  response, which  had  remained a  focal                                                                    
point  for several  years. The  initiative  aimed to  ensure                                                                    
individuals   in  crisis   received   care   in  the   least                                                                    
restrictive manner  possible and the system  ensured that an                                                                    
individual in crisis had someone to  call and a place to go.                                                                    
The  model was  known  as  Crisis Now  and  was designed  to                                                                    
reduce  suicides,  avoid   unnecessary  emergency  room  and                                                                    
correctional  facility visits,  and provide  optimal support                                                                    
to  individuals in  crisis.  Since  the initiative's  launch                                                                    
five years  ago, the trust  had committed  approximately $20                                                                    
million  in  grant  funding to  support  the  cause.  Beyond                                                                    
funding,  the   trust  had  played  a   leadership  role  by                                                                    
providing staff expertise to  support communities working to                                                                    
improve  their  crisis  services, connecting  partners,  and                                                                    
championing  the   work.  She  relayed  that   Crisis  Now's                                                                    
partnership  with  the state  had  been  successful and  had                                                                    
allowed significant  progress in  advancing new  services. A                                                                    
key example was the Fairbanks  Mobile Crisis Team, which had                                                                    
been operational  for over three  years. The  Fairbanks team                                                                    
reported  that 85  percent  of calls  were  resolved in  the                                                                    
community by  team members, with  only 19  percent requiring                                                                    
law enforcement  intervention or hospital  resolution. Prior                                                                    
to  the  initiative,  almost all  such  cases  required  law                                                                    
enforcement involvement.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  noted that  there  were  similar mobile  crisis                                                                    
teams   operating   in   Anchorage,  Mat-Su,   Juneau,   and                                                                    
Ketchikan, with  crisis response work underway  in many more                                                                    
communities  across the  state. She  appreciated that  local                                                                    
leaders  had embraced  the  initiative  and recognized  that                                                                    
there  was a  better  way to  help individuals  experiencing                                                                    
mental health  emergencies. She relayed  that the  trust was                                                                    
honored to have had a positive impact on these communities.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  thought  it  was  a  great  effort  and                                                                    
understood  it was  the result  of collaborate  work between                                                                    
the legislature,  the governor,  and various  other offices.                                                                    
He wished the initiative the best of luck.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie  asked  why there  were  no  response                                                                    
teams in southwest or northwest areas of the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  responded  that rural  areas  in  Alaska  faced                                                                    
significant challenges  due to their small  size and limited                                                                    
infrastructure. Many  of these communities  lacked essential                                                                    
resources such  as crisis response  teams or  hospital beds.                                                                    
She stated  that the trust  was actively  collaborating with                                                                    
local leadership to  determine how best to  adapt the Crisis                                                                    
Now model  to suit  the unique  conditions of  rural Alaska.                                                                    
The goal  was to develop a  version of the program  that was                                                                    
tailored  to the  state's diverse  geography and  population                                                                    
needs. She  noted that strategies  that worked  in Anchorage                                                                    
did not  necessarily work in  other areas of the  state. She                                                                    
stressed  that  expanding  the program  into  rural  regions                                                                    
remained  a  key  part  of the  trust's  broader  plan.  She                                                                    
clarified   the  statewide   crisis   hotline  was   already                                                                    
available to all residents of  Alaska, but the next step was                                                                    
to ensure  that a physical  response was available  as well.                                                                    
The initiative  was a good  example of an effort  that saved                                                                    
money  and   time  for   law  enforcement,   hospitals,  and                                                                    
emergency rooms and it ensured  that people were receiving a                                                                    
higher quality of care.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:27:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  requested  that the  committee  receive  a                                                                    
short  written   description  of  the  current   Crisis  Now                                                                    
resources  in Kotzebue.  He explained  that  he was  curious                                                                    
about the resource requirements  to implement such a program                                                                    
in  a  rural setting  and  expressed  interest in  exploring                                                                    
whether  it could  be  replicated in  other  parts of  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  responded that she could  share some information                                                                    
immediately  and  would  follow  up  with  a  more  detailed                                                                    
written summary. She relayed that  leadership from the trust                                                                    
had recently met  with health care experts  and the regional                                                                    
health  cooperative,   Maniilaq  Health  Center,   to  begin                                                                    
planning  an  emergency psychiatric  assessment,  treatment,                                                                    
and healing  (MPATH) unit at  the hospital in  Kotzebue. She                                                                    
explained  that  MPATH  units   were  intended  to  function                                                                    
similarly   to   crisis   stabilization   units   but   were                                                                    
specifically designed  for smaller communities  with limited                                                                    
resources. She would provide  more information including the                                                                    
investment amount in writing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  would distribute the information  to the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:28:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner continued  on slide 16 which gave  an overview of                                                                    
TLO.  She reiterated  that the  trust owned  approximately 1                                                                    
million acres  of land across  Alaska and that  TLO operated                                                                    
under  DNR but  worked exclusively  under contract  with the                                                                    
trust.  By statute,  TLO had  a singular  mission to  manage                                                                    
trust  lands  and  resources  with  the  sole  objective  of                                                                    
maximizing   revenue   generation   in  support   of   trust                                                                    
beneficiaries.  She  outlined   the  trust's  various  asset                                                                    
classes,  which included  forestry, minerals  and materials,                                                                    
energy,   commercial  real   estate,  program-related   real                                                                    
estate,  mitigation   marketing,  and  general   lands.  The                                                                    
revenues  generated through  the  assets directly  supported                                                                    
the trust's ongoing work. She  relayed that trust lands were                                                                    
managed   with   long-term   sustainability  in   mind   and                                                                    
consideration of the impact on future generations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner noted  that TLO  anticipated earning  over $33.3                                                                    
million in revenue in the  current fiscal year. The revenues                                                                    
would be divided  between income, which was  projected to be                                                                    
over $25 million,  and principal, which was  projected to be                                                                    
nearly  $7.4  million.  She emphasized  that  all  decisions                                                                    
regarding land  use were  made based on  how revenue  from a                                                                    
parcel could be  maximized. While TLO made  efforts to align                                                                    
trust land  management with  public interest  when possible,                                                                    
such alignment was not always feasible.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  noted that although trust  lands were                                                                    
technically public  lands, the  lands did not  operate under                                                                    
the  same  rules  as  other  public  lands  in  Alaska.  The                                                                    
adjoining landowners  were often not notified  of activities                                                                    
such as timber sales or  changes to trust land access, which                                                                    
created a conflict.  For example, a swath of  trees could be                                                                    
unexpectedly  cleared,  or  gravel  exported  without  local                                                                    
awareness. She  understood that TLO's  legal mandate  was to                                                                    
generate the  highest possible return, but  wondered whether                                                                    
the trust or  TLO might adopt a less rigid  approach to land                                                                    
disposals to  avoid unnecessary  conflict. She  relayed that                                                                    
the  absence  of  a  requirement   to  follow  state  public                                                                    
notification   rules   made   the  processes   appear   less                                                                    
transparent.  She  assumed  that  the trust  and  TLO  would                                                                    
prefer  to  focus on  land  management  rather than  on  the                                                                    
conflicts about the way the land was managed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Warner  replied   that  the   approach  to   community                                                                    
engagement had evolved.  She had made efforts  over the past                                                                    
three years  to increase  transparency and  public outreach.                                                                    
She  offered reassurance  that TLO  followed all  state laws                                                                    
regarding  public notice  for land  disposals, but  she also                                                                    
recognized the  intrinsic value  in seeking  community input                                                                    
beyond what  was legally required.  She stated that  TLO was                                                                    
actively   working   to   communicate   earlier   and   more                                                                    
effectively  with  communities  before development  or  land                                                                    
activity occurred.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:33:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan noted  that  many municipalities  had                                                                    
yet to receive their full  land entitlements from the state,                                                                    
but  the   trust  had  a  legally   mandated  priority  when                                                                    
selecting  lands.  As  a  result,  trust  lands  were  often                                                                    
situated within  communities that  had alternative  land use                                                                    
preferences  but  the land  would  be  sold to  the  highest                                                                    
bidder. She stated that the  process often created friction,                                                                    
as  local governments  could  have  legitimate interests  in                                                                    
specific parcels  but could  not outbid  private developers.                                                                    
She thought  the policy set  the trust up for  conflict with                                                                    
local  communities.  She  believed it  created  tension  and                                                                    
altered the public's perception of the trust.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson   responded  that  both  legal   compliance  and                                                                    
examining  the broader  picture was  vital. She  appreciated                                                                    
the insight.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan clarified  that her  concern was  not                                                                    
about  legality but  about  public  perception. She  thought                                                                    
that  the law  governing trust  land disposals  was distinct                                                                    
from that applied  to other state land.  She understood that                                                                    
trust   lands   did   not  require   community-driven   land                                                                    
management  plans   and  decision-making   authority  rested                                                                    
solely with  the board of  trustees. She urged the  trust to                                                                    
consider softening its approach  to community engagement and                                                                    
to  explore ways  of bringing  local  stakeholders into  the                                                                    
conversation. She  argued that  changing the  approach would                                                                    
help build community understanding and support.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner  responded  that  the   trust  was  looking  for                                                                    
creative  solutions to  meet  the needs  of  both the  local                                                                    
communities  and the  trust itself.  She suggested  that TLO                                                                    
could approach  land parcels with  more flexibility  and the                                                                    
office   was  striving   for  proactive   and  collaborative                                                                    
problem-solving. She  indicated that  further detail  on the                                                                    
office's programs would  be provided on the  next slide. The                                                                    
goal was to identify  solutions before encountering the kind                                                                    
of conflicts TLO had experienced in the past.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  advanced to slide  17 which  highlighted several                                                                    
FY  24  accomplishments. She  stated  that  FY 24  had  been                                                                    
another successful  year for TLO  and it had  generated over                                                                    
$17 million  in revenue,  which was transferred  directly to                                                                    
the trust.  Among the key  contributors to the  success were                                                                    
timber sales,  which brought in  more than $1.9  million and                                                                    
supported approximately 150 jobs statewide.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner reported  that TLO had four  active timber sales,                                                                    
with durations  ranging from four  to eight  years remaining                                                                    
under  contract. The  sales included  an estimated  total of                                                                    
approximately  47.5  million  board  feet of  timber  to  be                                                                    
harvested.  The bulk  of  the revenue  came  from two  major                                                                    
sales: one near Ketchikan at  Shelter Cove, and another near                                                                    
Naukati  Bay on  Prince of  Wales Island.  There was  also a                                                                    
unique forest fuels mitigation  project involving the Alaska                                                                    
Gateway  School District  which  focused on  the removal  of                                                                    
hazardous  forest  fuels  from   120  acres  of  trust  land                                                                    
surrounding the  Tok School. The harvested  wood was chipped                                                                    
and  processed into  biomass fuel,  which was  then used  to                                                                    
heat the  school. The project  was an example  of beneficial                                                                    
and sustainable land use.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  indicated that  trust land sales  in FY  24 were                                                                    
highly  successful. She  shared that  TLO offered  both land                                                                    
sale  auctions  for  select parcels  and  ongoing  over-the-                                                                    
counter  land sales.  Over  the course  of  the last  fiscal                                                                    
year, the  office financed land sale  contracts and outright                                                                    
land purchases that  were expected to yield  more than $10.5                                                                    
million over the  lifetime of the contracts.  Once sold, the                                                                    
parcels  could also  generate additional  revenue for  local                                                                    
taxing authorities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner continued  that  that  six subdivision  projects                                                                    
were  completed across  three  different communities,  which                                                                    
were Homer,  Fairbanks, and Kenai. The  office currently had                                                                    
ten subdivision  development projects  in various  phases of                                                                    
active development in five  different communities across the                                                                    
state.  Initial  feasibility  work  had  also  begun  on  11                                                                    
additional subdivision projects in FY 24.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner  stated  that  resource  development,  including                                                                    
renewable resource  development, continued  to be  a revenue                                                                    
source for  the trust.  In FY 24,  the office  finalized its                                                                    
first  renewable energy  project ground  lease, which  was a                                                                    
major  milestone in  diversifying its  portfolio. The  lease                                                                    
supported a solar energy project  on 680 acres of trust land                                                                    
near Nikiski.  The project proposed 28.5  megawatts of cost-                                                                    
competitive  energy  to  be interconnected  with  the  Homer                                                                    
Electric  Association utility.  The lease  was projected  to                                                                    
generate over $3  million in royalty payments  to the trust.                                                                    
The project also included the  potential for expansion, with                                                                    
an option  for a  second lease  that could  further increase                                                                    
the trust's returns.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  shared that TLO was  conducting exploratory work                                                                    
at  Icy  Cape,  which  was located  approximately  75  miles                                                                    
northwest of Yakutat. The project  focused on a large-volume                                                                    
placer gold  and industrial  heavy minerals  district, which                                                                    
included  critical minerals.  She explained  that a  mineral                                                                    
resource estimate  and accompanying technical report  on one                                                                    
of  the  four  identified  prospects were  expected  in  the                                                                    
second  quarter of  FY 25.  The  prospects were  large-scale                                                                    
placer  deposits  rather  than  hard  rock  deposits,  which                                                                    
significantly reduced the cost  of mining and operations and                                                                    
made the site more attractive to industry.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether permitting  for  such  a                                                                    
placer operation would be handled through DNR.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner responded in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  about  the  decline in  timber                                                                    
sales  revenue.  Based  on  information  found  on  the  TLO                                                                    
website,  it appeared  that revenue  from  timber sales  had                                                                    
dropped by approximately $1 million,  which was a roughly 30                                                                    
percent  decrease. She  asked if  there was  any explanation                                                                    
for the decline.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Warner responded  that  overseas  markets continued  to                                                                    
pose  challenges,  which  contributed  to  the  decrease  in                                                                    
revenue. She  noted that Alaska's  timber market  was niche,                                                                    
which added to the complexity.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  concluded the  presentation  on  slide 18.  She                                                                    
emphasized that  the trust  was considered  perpetual, which                                                                    
meant  that  it was  accountable  not  only to  present  day                                                                    
beneficiaries  but also  to  future  generations. She  hoped                                                                    
that the committee  could see how the trust  used its annual                                                                    
expenditures to support  beneficiaries through effective and                                                                    
expert  leadership in  partnership with  stakeholders across                                                                    
the state. She reiterated that the  trust's role was to be a                                                                    
prudent and strategic overseer.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster directed  attention to  slide 12  and noted                                                                    
that several  items in the  trust's recommendations  had not                                                                    
been  fully funded  by the  governor. He  asked whether  the                                                                    
administration   had  communicated   the  reasons   for  the                                                                    
omissions, or  whether there was  a common theme  behind the                                                                    
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baldwin-Johnson responded  that communication was strong                                                                    
between  the  trust  and  the   governor's  office  and  OMB                                                                    
following    the    trustees'    transmittal    of    budget                                                                    
recommendations.  The governor's  office  sent  a letter  in                                                                    
response,   indicating  which   items  were   supported  and                                                                    
provided justification for the exclusions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  whether  there  appeared  to  be  a                                                                    
consistent rationale for the omissions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baldwin-Johnson replied  that the  reasons varied.  For                                                                    
example, in  the case  of SNUG  and HAP,  there had  been an                                                                    
increase  in receipts  allocated by  AHFC, which  could have                                                                    
reduced  the  perceived  need for  additional  general  fund                                                                    
appropriations.  She  noted  that creative  solutions  could                                                                    
address the  needs of  other entities  originally identified                                                                    
in the trust's recommendations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  asked   for   confirmation  that   the                                                                    
administration's rationale for not  funding SNUG and HAP was                                                                    
related to AHFC's increased investments in the programs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baldwin-Johnson responded in  the affirmative. She noted                                                                    
that  AHFC had  designated additional  receipts specifically                                                                    
for those programs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp requested  additional information about                                                                    
the Coordinated Community Transportation  (CCT) line item on                                                                    
slide 12. He noted that in  the FY 24 budget, there had been                                                                    
a $300,000  MHTARR appropriation  directed to  Department of                                                                    
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities (DOT)  for  CCT.  He                                                                    
relayed that  the $300,000 difference  aligned with  the gap                                                                    
between  the  governor's  proposed budget  and  the  trust's                                                                    
current  request, and  he suggested  there  was a  potential                                                                    
correlation. He  asked why the  MHTARR funds were  no longer                                                                    
directed  to  the  CCT  program,  even  though  the  request                                                                    
remained the same.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Baldwin-Johnson   responded   that   the   trust   had                                                                    
historically committed  MHTARR funds to CCT.  She noted that                                                                    
of  the  previous  MHTARR   commitment,  $200,000  had  been                                                                    
reallocated   within  the   trust's  internal   budget.  The                                                                    
reallocation   was  now   directed  toward   a  Senior   and                                                                    
Disability Services  line item in the  trust's budget, which                                                                    
was    a   more    targeted   communication    project   for                                                                    
beneficiaries. She  explained that  while the  allocation of                                                                    
MHTARR funds  had shifted, the  trust had not  withdrawn its                                                                    
investment  in   the  program,  but  had   simply  chosen  a                                                                    
different   approach  that   aligned   more  directly   with                                                                    
beneficiary needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:46:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson   asked  how  the  trust   responded  to                                                                    
inquiries from members  of the public or  skeptics about the                                                                    
tangible results  of its  investments. He  acknowledged that                                                                    
such questions were  often rooted in curiosity  or doubt. He                                                                    
asked  how   the  trust  demonstrated  that   its  financial                                                                    
investments   were  making   a   meaningful  difference   in                                                                    
improving outcomes for beneficiaries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baldwin-Johnson  responded  that  it  was  a  difficult                                                                    
question   because   for   any   funding   organization   or                                                                    
philanthropic entity, measuring true  impact could be one of                                                                    
the  most difficult  challenges. Every  grant at  the trust,                                                                    
whether issued  to a nonprofit  or a state agency,  was tied                                                                    
to specific  objectives and performance metrics  that helped                                                                    
ensure  that  the trust  could  monitor  and report  on  the                                                                    
outcomes  of   each  funded   initiative.  She   noted  that                                                                    
assessing  broader improvements  in population-level  health                                                                    
outcomes was  far more  complex. The  complexity was  due in                                                                    
part   to   the    collaborative   nature   of   system-wide                                                                    
interventions as there were  many stakeholders involved, not                                                                    
just the  trust. To  monitor larger  trends, the  trust used                                                                    
tools such  as the  statewide scorecard  and the  Comp Plan,                                                                    
which helped align efforts  and provide strategic direction.                                                                    
She relayed that the trust  could clearly measure the impact                                                                    
of its own grant-making  but understanding population health                                                                    
required  broader coordination  and a  collective evaluation                                                                    
of efforts.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:48:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher  added that understanding  the outcomes  of trust                                                                    
investments had become a key  interest for the current board                                                                    
of trustees.  He pointed out  that while trust  grants often                                                                    
supported  organizations   that  served   a  mix   of  trust                                                                    
beneficiaries   and  other   populations,   the  board   was                                                                    
committed to  better understanding the specific  results for                                                                    
trust beneficiaries. He  noted that the board's  goal was to                                                                    
elevate the trust's capacity to  analyze and communicate the                                                                    
impact of  its work.  He expressed  optimism that  under Ms.                                                                    
Wilson's leadership, the trust  would enhance its ability to                                                                    
provide  detailed, reliable  data to  legislators and  other                                                                    
stakeholders,   ultimately    improving   transparency   and                                                                    
accountability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  noted  that while  land  sales  benefited                                                                    
Alaskans in the near term,  the long-term value derived from                                                                    
the  assets  was  that  more   limited  land  was  sold.  By                                                                    
contrast, assets retained in  the corpus generated sustained                                                                    
revenue for  future generations. He asked  whether there was                                                                    
a reason the trust did not  direct more of the proceeds from                                                                    
land  sales into  the corpus  in order  to generate  ongoing                                                                    
returns and  preserve long-term value for  beneficiaries. He                                                                    
asked if the idea had been discussed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilson  responded that she  had been learning  about the                                                                    
topic and  it was  an important philosophical  and practical                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  explained that the  revenue from land  sales had                                                                    
been treated  as principal income, which  had been deposited                                                                    
into  the  Permanent Fund  to  contribute  to its  long-term                                                                    
growth.  She clarified  that  while  interest payments  from                                                                    
land  sale  financing  had not  contributed  to  the  fund's                                                                    
corpus,  the payments  had been  considered income  and used                                                                    
for operational purposes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fisher added  that  in addition  to  revenue from  land                                                                    
sales,  the  corpus  needed  to  be  inflation  proofed.  He                                                                    
emphasized that  any funds generated  had been used  to help                                                                    
secure the corpus for the benefit of future beneficiaries.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  noted  that   there  was  an  ongoing                                                                    
housing  crisis in  Alaska and  asked whether  TLO had  been                                                                    
focusing on creating more housing opportunities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Warner  replied   that  TLO   had  been   prioritizing                                                                    
subdivision  development  statewide, particularly  in  areas                                                                    
like Ketchikan,  where housing issues  had been  severe. She                                                                    
noted  that  the  lands  the trust  had  received  had  been                                                                    
surveyed and located both within  and around communities. To                                                                    
date,  TLO  had  sold  less  than  3  percent  of  its  land                                                                    
portfolio and was focusing  primarily on smaller subdivision                                                                    
parcels.  However, the  office had  been in  the process  of                                                                    
subdividing larger tracts of  land, with ongoing evaluations                                                                    
of market  demand, the economic  viability of  projects, and                                                                    
the cost of necessary infrastructure.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum   asked   if   there   was   anything                                                                    
communities could do to accelerate the process.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Warner  responded that there were  ways that communities                                                                    
could help.  She pointed out  that one of the  main barriers                                                                    
to   projects  had   been  the   high  standards   for  road                                                                    
construction required  by local communities. There  had been                                                                    
opportunities for collaboration that  would have allowed for                                                                    
adjustments to the road  construction requirements and would                                                                    
make  the projects  more  financially  feasible. She  shared                                                                    
that a  memorandum of understanding (MOU)  had recently been                                                                    
signed with the City and  Borough of Wrangell to support the                                                                    
mission  of   the  trust.  She  explained   that  while  the                                                                    
agreement   was  non-binding,   it   represented  a   mutual                                                                    
commitment  to  work together  in  alignment  with both  the                                                                    
trust's needs and the community's needs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum remarked that  he would like to explore                                                                    
the  issue in  greater depth  as  it was  important for  the                                                                    
communities  in district.  He noted  that there  was growing                                                                    
pressure  on education  in Alaska  and school  districts had                                                                    
been  increasingly vocal  about the  need for  mental health                                                                    
resources in  schools. He asked  whether the trust  had been                                                                    
involved  in   creating  stronger  relationships   with  the                                                                    
Department  of Education  and  Early  Development (DEED)  to                                                                    
address these mental health needs in schools.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Wilson  responded  that the  trust  had  been  actively                                                                    
involved in  the area of youth  and childhood interventions,                                                                    
which  included   addressing  special  needs   programs  for                                                                    
children. She emphasized that  early intervention had proven                                                                    
beneficial  for  school  performance,   and  the  trust  was                                                                    
working   towards   dedicating   more   funding   to   early                                                                    
intervention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:58:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fisher  added that  approximately two  and a  half years                                                                    
ago, the trustees had taken  a special interest in pediatric                                                                    
and  youth  populations  from a  prevention  standpoint.  He                                                                    
noted that treatment plans for  mental health often received                                                                    
reimbursement, but prevention  plans lacked similar funding.                                                                    
The  trust had  been working  with organizations  focused on                                                                    
younger populations to help prevent  the development of more                                                                    
severe mental health issues as the children aged.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  asked whether most of  the funding for                                                                    
the initiatives was flowing through grants.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fisher replied  that the  majority of  the funding  was                                                                    
provided  through grants,  though the  trust also  partnered                                                                    
with  other  organizations  to supplement  the  support  and                                                                    
mental health resources.  He shared that the  trust had also                                                                    
provided  funding for  housing related  to therapeutic  care                                                                    
and other services. The trust  was taking a broader approach                                                                    
to addressing mental health needs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  55  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson reviewed  the agenda  for the  following                                                                    
day's meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.                                                                                          

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AMHTA presentation HFIN 020525.pdf HFIN 2/5/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB 55
AMHTA Responses to H FIN Committee Questions 2-14-2025 .pdf HFIN 2/5/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB 55