Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
03/21/2023 05:00 PM House FINANCE
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| Public Testimony: Juneau and Offnets | |
| Adjourn |
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HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE
March 21, 2023
5:02 p.m.
5:02:42 PM
CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting
to order at 5:02 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair
Representative Julie Coulombe
Representative Mike Cronk
Representative Alyse Galvin
Representative Sara Hannan
Representative Andy Josephson
Representative Dan Ortiz
Representative Will Stapp
Representative Frank Tomaszewski
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair
ALSO PRESENT
Michael Bucy, Self, Juneau; Luann McVey, Self, Juneau;
Brenda Stanfill, Executive Director, Alaska Network on
Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (ANDVSA), Juneau;
Christina Apathy, Self, Juneau; Tracy Goldsmith, Self,
Juneau; Lisa Eagan Lagerquist, Self, Juneau; Katie Pittman,
Self, Juneau; Darren Snyder, Self, Juneau; Dr. Bridget
Weiss, Superintendent, Juneau School District, Juneau;
Brian Holst, Executive Director, Juneau Economic
Development Council, Juneau; Will Muldoon, Juneau School
District, Juneau; Maressa Jensen, Self, Juneau; Lori Crupi,
Self, Juneau; Morgan Michels, Self, Juneau; Natalie Troy,
Self, Juneau; Janette Gagnon, Self, Juneau; Lorrie Heagy,
Self, Juneau; Emily Ferry, Self, Juneau.
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
Jerilyn Devens, Self, Valdez; Fubao Harele, Self, Juneau;
Catherine Melville, Juneau Public Library, Juneau; Joanna
Forst, Self, Juneau; Kristin Jones, Self, Juneau; Kathy
Leary, City Administrator, City of Gustavus, Gustavus; Nola
Lamken, Self, Juneau; Nancy Eiler, Self, Juneau; Chris
Meade, Self, Juneau.
SUMMARY
HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP
HB 39 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
HB 41 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET
HB 41 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda. The committee
would hear public testimony on the operating and mental
health budgets. She reviewed public testimony protocol and
call-in information.
HOUSE BILL NO. 39
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and for
certain programs; capitalizing funds; amending
appropriations; making reappropriations; making
supplemental appropriations; making appropriations
under art. IX, sec. 17(c), Constitution of the State
of Alaska, from the constitutional budget reserve
fund; and providing for an effective date."
HOUSE BILL NO. 41
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
capital expenses of the state's integrated
comprehensive mental health program; and providing for
an effective date."
5:04:53 PM
^PUBLIC TESTIMONY: JUNEAU and OFFNETS
5:05:31 PM
MICHAEL BUCY, SELF, JUNEAU, testified in support of raising
the Base Student Allocation (BSA) funding for education by
20 percent. He understood that education was expensive, but
it depended on the kind of education that was desired. He
shared that his family had left Alaska for one of their
children to attend a private school through scholarship for
one year. He listed a teacher ratio of 10 to 1, arts,
theater, sports, social activities, music, languages, field
trips, and other were all part of providing an excellent
education. He provided additional details on the school
experience out of state. He shared that he is a music
teacher and had classes of up to 43 middle schoolers. He
was a good teacher, but no one could pay attention to
everyone's needs with a class that size. He provided other
examples of challenges experienced in the local school
system. He stressed that the governor and legislature had
not funded schools adequately. He shared that people were
moving out of the state. He stressed that education was
expensive. He shared there used to be a higher number of
teachers, but they have been dramatically reduced.
Education was expensive, but not as expensive as the PFD
from the past year and the current year. He highlighted
that the legislature had a constitutional mandate to
provide and maintain the schools. He emphasized that the
schools were falling apart. He congratulated the
legislature on an overdue pay raise of 67 percent and asked
the legislature to raise the BSA 20 percent.
5:08:06 PM
Representative Galvin thanked Mr. Bucy for his testimony
and for being a teacher. She asked about the resources in
education and how much they went toward administration.
Mr. Bucy responded that he had spoken with his principal
about how things had changed in the 14 years she had been
there. The school had lost two custodial staff, a
counselor, and the nurse position had become part-time. The
principal spent a lot of time doing lunch duty and there
had previously been a truancy officer, but now the office
had to take care of the work. All of the things kept adding
up and it showed in the classrooms and performance.
Co-Chair Foster thanked Mr. Bucy for offering the PFD as
one solution. He shared that the revenue forecast had been
released earlier in the evening showing an additional $679
million in reduced revenue due to decreased oil prices. The
legislature was faced with determining where the funds
would come from to fill the deficit and options included
the PFD, taxes, cuts, oil tax credit reductions, or
savings. He appreciated the suggestion of one way to
balance the budget.
5:11:17 PM
LUANN MCVEY, SELF, JUNEAU, relayed that she is a retired
Alaskan teacher. She spoke in support of matching funds for
the federal Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS), grants for
seniors and people with disabilities, health professional
recruitment and retention, extension of Medicaid coverage,
and the Public Defender Agency. She strongly supported
increasing the BSA and bringing back a defined benefit
retirement plan in order to retain employees and teachers.
She was concerned about proposed cuts to public libraries.
She supported funding for public broadcasting. She stated
that cuts were not the only solution to a slimmer state
wallet. She suggested that income could be generated
through increased oil taxes, a more moderate PFD payment,
and the implementation of an income tax. She shared
information about her family. She stated that keeping her
family in the state would be an adequate budget that could
provide services to Alaskans.
5:14:11 PM
BRENDA STANFILL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA NETWORK ON
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT (ANDVSA), JUNEAU,
provided information about ANDVSA and the services the
organization provided for victims. She spoke in support of
victims' services funds within the Department of Public
Safety (DPS) budget. She relayed that the direct services
provided by programs to victims of crime were a core
component of the criminal justice system. Victims often
found themselves without a safe place to stay and a lack of
funds. She provided additional details about the support
the services offered to victims. She highlighted that
programs had the same amount of funding for five years
while their expenses continued to increase. The funding in
the Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault (CDVSA)
grants had been made up of a patchwork of funds including
federal appropriations (i.e., one-time increments of
general funds, COVID relief dollars, and federal and state
funds). She was hopeful the legislature could find a more
consistent way to fund services for crime victims. She
requested moving the $3 million one-time increment from
general funds in the DPS CDVSA grant line to $3 million in
the base funding of CDVSA. She requested funding for a one-
time increment to assist with the increased cost of
operating buildings needed to operate emergency shelter
services.
Co-Chair Johnson asked how long Ms. Stanfill had held her
current position.
Ms. Stanfill replied that she had been in her current
position for 18 months.
Co-Chair Johnson asked for verification that Ms. Stanfill
had been with the state for a number of years.
Ms. Stanfill replied that she had lived in Fairbanks for 25
years as the executive director of the Interior Alaska
Center for Nonviolent Living. She had not previously worked
for the state until her current position.
Representative Stapp thanked Ms. Stanfill for her
testimony.
5:17:31 PM
JERILYN DEVENS, SELF, VALDEZ (via teleconference),
supported the state funding for public media. She stated
that public media was often the only timely source of
critical information available in emergency situations in
remote areas in terms of public safety. She shared that
during the 1964 earthquake there had not been immediate
warning compared to more recent times when there had been
immediate warnings on public media of potential tsunami
dangers.
5:19:29 PM
FUBAO HARELE, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), testified
in support of Medicaid. He needed services and everyone in
the state needed the services as much as they needed the
PFD. He stated that part of the reason people were moving
out of state was due to a lack of Medicaid waiver services.
He was advocating for people with disabilities. He stated
the waitlist needed to be reduced. He thanked the
committee.
5:21:52 PM
CATHERINE MELVILLE, JUNEAU PUBLIC LIBRARY, JUNEAU (via
teleconference), shared that she had worked for the public
library for 14 years. She asked for support for restored
funding for state libraries. She shared the funds were used
to give additional funding to staffing for children's
services and to stretch dollars to buy items for the
collection including e-resources. She stated that a cut to
the funds would be passed on directly to the Juneau Public
Library and its services. She stressed that the reduction
would be even more painful for libraries with smaller
budgets.
Co-Chair Johnson acknowledged Representative Andrew Gray in
the audience.
5:23:59 PM
JOANNA FORST, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), spoke in
support of the Parents as Teachers program. She shared that
her family had been part of the program since the birth of
her son 2.5 years earlier. She shared that having a child
during COVID-19 was incredibly difficult and her family had
received a lot of support during that time including
resources, education, prevention, and referrals. Her family
had been able to connect further with groups and education
since that time. She stated the Parents as Teachers staff
had been a positive influence on her family. She
highlighted the importance of a free educational webinar
provided by the program. The family had even received
employment opportunities through the program. She
referenced the high waitlist and spoke in support of
increased funding to allow more families to be served.
5:26:20 PM
KRISTIN JONES, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), shared
that she was calling from the Bartlett Hospital campus. She
called on behalf of her brother who had been using Medicaid
his entire life. She advocated for increased spending
flexibility for Medicaid waivers. She shared that her
brother had expressed he wanted to start using some mental
health services, but they had been unable to get the
funding anywhere. She was currently paying out of pocket
for the services. She stressed the service should be
available to more people and those in need. She underscored
it would make a huge difference to many people. She thanked
the committee.
Representative Stapp thanked Ms. Jones for her testimony.
He shared that the 1115 waiver process was up for renewal
in the current year. There would be a public comment period
and he encouraged Ms. Jones to testify.
5:28:59 PM
KATHY LEARY, CITY ADMINISTRATOR, CITY OF GUSTAVUS, GUSTAVUS
(via teleconference), spoke in support of public radio. She
stated it was a public safety issue, especially in a
community that had abysmal cell coverage. She noted that
the community had had land lines cut in the past. She
emphasized the importance of public radio for emergency
services. She spoke in support of state matching funds for
AMHS. The funds were critical for obtaining federal
infrastructure funding. The AMHS was also critical for
school and sports travel, access to supplies and groceries,
and medical appointments. She testified in support of
funding for the public library. She shared that the public
library in Gustavus supplemented the school with literacy
and other reading programs. She asked for matching funds
for PFAS mitigation due to the large problem in the
community.
5:31:58 PM
CHRISTINA APATHY, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that she is a first
year teacher at Thunder Mountain High School. She shared
that she supported the increase in the BSA. She stated her
classrooms had a lack of hope. She relayed that her
students cared and were upset at adults and a society that
could not get its act together. She spoke about the
importance of an atmosphere of safety for students.
5:35:31 PM
TRACY GOLDSMITH, SELF, JUNEAU, had been a teacher in Juneau
for 11 years. She asked the committee to increase education
funding in the current year. She stated that with the lack
of funding and flat funding for the past seven years meant
employees had been lost and hiring was difficult. She
thanked the committee for working hard on behalf of
Alaskans.
5:36:35 PM
LISA EAGAN LAGERQUIST, SELF, JUNEAU, is a mother and former
high school teacher in Juneau. She shared three brief
stories about her children and their teachers. The first
story was about a fourth grade teacher letting the family
know their son needed glasses. The impact had been
miraculous for her son. She shared separate information her
son had learned about another country in a Model UN
activity led by the librarian. She stressed that no other
teacher had time to lead the activity and the librarian had
taken it up. It had made a difference to her son. She
implored the committee to increase the BSA.
5:39:31 PM
KATIE PITTMAN, SELF, JUNEAU, shared information about her
personal background from rural Alaska and her work in
various rural areas of the state. She spoke in support of
increased funding for education. She stated that without an
increase in the BSA for numerous years, private
organizations, grants, and federal funding was having a
more powerful voice than the state in Alaska's public
schools. She stressed that the legislature's power came in
the form of money many times. She currently managed federal
title money for the Juneau School District. She relayed
that half of her budget came from state general funds. The
funds fund certified teachers, cultural specialists and
people who provided services that prevented students from
needing social services work. She asked the committee to
consider investing early in Alaskans and in public
education.
5:42:28 PM
NOLA LAMKEN, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), stressed
the importance of state funding for Medicaid funding and
paying attention to specific needs people listed in prior
testimony. She noted that the funding would go much further
than individuals having it all. She supported matching
funds for AMHS and stated it was tragic what had happened
to the ferry system in the past 20 years. She would like to
see the ferry system strongly improved and the federal
funds used. She spoke in support of funding for education.
She asked for the support of teachers and morale. She
strongly supported funding for libraries and public media.
She thanked the committee.
5:44:43 PM
DARREN SNYDER, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that he is a father of
three and grandfather of two Alaskans. He supported the
sustainability, prosperity, resilience, and success of
Alaskan communities. He shared that he worked for the UAF
Cooperative Extension and worked daily on the daily
improvement of Alaskans' lives in food security and many
other areas. He asked how the state could achieve the goal
for every Alaskan to be self-reliant, resilient, and
successful if the education system was not adequately
funded. He questioned how communities and kids were being
prepared for the plethora of challenges that exist. He
spoke in support of increasing the BSA. He was paid by the
state and federal government to do important work that he
felt was undercut by the state's lack of commitment to its
schools, educators, and volunteers that made the education
system work. He encouraged adequate funding to support
things like HB 65 [proposed legislation to increase BSA
funding].
Co-Chair Johnson noted there were no additional callers
online. She recessed the meeting until 6:15 p.m.
5:47:55 PM
RECESSED
6:15:55 PM
RECONVENED
NANCY EILER, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), shared that
she is the mother and caregiver of her 36-year-old disabled
son. She asked the committee to support the governor's $1.5
million increment for senior and disability services
community based grants. She highlighted that the increment
included funding for independent living centers. Her son
and her family had benefitted from SAIL [Southeast Alaska
Independent Living] services in Juneau for many years. The
support and kindness of SAIL staff had been important for
her over the years. Her son shared that he enjoyed the
people at SAIL and the services provided. She stated that
any services she and her husband could get to help their
son become as independent as possible was incredibly
valuable. She thanked the committee for supporting the
increment.
6:18:15 PM
DR. BRIDGET WEISS, SUPERINTENDENT, JUNEAU SCHOOL DISTRICT,
JUNEAU, shared she had been born and raised in Juneau. She
urged the committee to support education in the operating
budget. She shared it had been quite an experience being an
educator for 39 years. For the past 23 years she had been
an administrator consistently looking through assets,
resources, the many needs of students, and how to allocate
the limited resources. She highlighted that another
committee room was currently packed with public testifiers
in support of an increase to the BSA. She noted there were
also some individuals testifying that public education was
not the place to invest. She underscored that if the state
did not increase its investment in education, educators
could not do what was needed for students and staff. She
shared that she started teaching in 1984 when she was 22.
She shared that she had earned $14,600 in another state.
She would have doubled her salary if she had come home to
teach at that time. Whereas, currently the teachers in
other states made more. She emphasized that the school
system had lost all of its purchasing power to have the
best and brightest teachers. She thanked the committee for
its support.
6:20:56 PM
Representative Hannan asked about the growth in P&I
insurance in the last several years.
Dr. Weiss replied that the property liability insurance
cost the district $200,000 in FY 21. The same insurance had
increased to $400,000 in FY 22 and $1.2 million in FY 23.
The price was increasing another $59,000 in the coming
year.
Representative Stapp shared that the Fairbanks School
District pooled health insurance with the borough. He asked
if the City and Borough of Juneau (CBJ) and the Juneau
School District had a commercial risk pooling arrangement.
Dr. Weiss answered affirmatively. The district pooled
liability insurance and some health insurance with CBJ.
6:22:22 PM
BRIAN HOLST, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, JUNEAU ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, JUNEAU, advocated for a much stronger
investment in public education funding. He had served nine
years on the Juneau School Board and had seen the district
make improvements despite inadequate funding. The district
maintained a high graduation rate and had seen the
graduation rate amongst minorities increase as well.
Nonetheless, the outcomes were not adequate, and resources
were not keeping up. He highlighted that in the 1990s
Alaska's educational assessments were on par with the rest
of the United States, whereas the state now lagged the
national average in math and reading. The state's economy
required that 65 percent of its workers had some
postsecondary education; however, only 55 percent of
Alaskans had the credentials. He stressed that teacher
turnover exceeded 20 percent, which cost Alaska over $20
million annually. He underscored that Alaska was the only
state where teachers and administrators hired after 2006
could not earn a pension. He highlighted that New Jersey
was ranked number one in the country for education and
spent over $20,000 per student, while Alaska spent less
than $18,000. The state was ranked 49th in the quality of
its schools. He provided additional statistics. He pointed
out that Alaska was ranked number one in fiscal stability;
however, it was necessary to make choices about how the
resources were used. The size of the Permanent Fund
Dividend was the only inflation proofed item in the state's
budget.
6:25:01 PM
WILL MULDOON, JUNEAU SCHOOL DISTRICT, JUNEAU, testified in
support of education funding. He shared that he served on
the Juneau School Board, which had just approved its budget
of $92.3 million with roughly $70 million in operating
funds. He remarked that the district had seen a 12.9
percent enrollment decline with the COVID-19 pandemic and
the district did not recapture all of the students. The
district had just budgeted the last of the [federal] COVID
relief funds. He stressed that the current budget cycle had
been very difficult. The budget had been passed based on a
$400 increase to the BSA. He shared that without the
increase the district would be faced with a deficit of
about a $3 million for the coming year. He stated that
education needed a little help in the budget. He thanked
the committee.
6:27:26 PM
MARESSA JENSEN, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that she is a parent
and was an employee at in the Juneau School District for
four years until the past July. She understood there were
difficult choices to make on the budget, but for too many
years the hard choices had been made at the cost of
children and their future. She spoke in support of an
increase in BSA funding. She stressed that everyone
depended on today's children for their wellbeing and care
in the future. She underscored the need to invest
accordingly. She recognized that some of the current
outcomes from schools were not great; however, she argued
it was a result of underfunding and should not be used to
justify continued underfunding. She asked if people
expected their vehicles to get more miles per gallon
because they paid more when the cost of fuel increased. She
answered, "Of course we don't." She emphasized that the
cost of fuel for the education system had been steadily
increasing for the past several decades. She stressed the
need to keep up with the costs. She underscored the need
for children to thrive in order for the state to thrive.
Co-Chair Foster thanked Ms. Jensen for her car analogy to
help emphasize the point.
6:29:41 PM
LORI CRUPI, SELF, JUNEAU, thanked the committee for its
hard work. She testified in favor of public education and
an increase in the BSA. She shared that she had been an
educator her whole professional life and her parents had
been educators. She shared information about her children
in the Juneau School District. She highlighted the number
of cuts made to staff and teachers in the past 12 years.
She underscored that schools could not afford to lose more
teachers. She is a school psychologist and had seen
marginalized students and the issue had been exacerbated by
COVID. She stated that distance education was hard on
everyone, and the kids were slowly getting back and
connected. She emphasized that students needed people,
connections, and to feel they were a part of the schools.
She stated it took people to run schools. She thanked the
committee.
Representative Galvin thanked Ms. Crupi for calling out the
importance of having relationships with students in
schools. She thought it was critical to have people in
schools who notice when students did not show up. She
thanked Ms. Crupi for her work in education.
6:32:54 PM
MORGAN MICHELS, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that she is a first
year teacher in Juneau. She grew up in Alaska and was a
product of the Alaska public school system. She encouraged
the committee to fund the public education system as much
as possible. She shared that she had been an active member
in the communities she had lived in. She felt she was a
perfect example of what the schools in the state were
looking for. She had gone back to school and obtained her
master's degree to teach in Alaska. She encouraged a
significant investment in education funding to ensure there
were others to make the same choice to teach in Alaska.
Co-Chair Foster thanked Ms. Michels for testifying.
6:35:10 PM
NATALIE TROY, SELF, JUNEAU, currently worked for the Alaska
Council of School Administrators. She spoke in support of
an increase to the BSA. She was looking at options to get
certified to teach and was from North Carolina. She was
currently trying to figure out where she would like to
teach. She was hoping to get certified in Alaska, but
without a stable investment in education she did not know
whether she would stay to teach in Alaska. She encouraged
the committee to provide stable, predictable funding
through the formula.
6:37:13 PM
JANETTE GAGNON, SELF, JUNEAU, was a special education
teacher in Juneau. She spoke in support of education
funding. She shared that she had been told by students that
when they were younger, they hid under their porches from
their drunk parents. The same children had told her they
learned how to steal their parents' welfare checks so they
could buy food before their parents bought drugs with the
money. She shared additional stories. She stressed the
importance of funding education so students with the lowest
possible denominators had equal opportunities.
6:40:04 PM
CHRIS MEADE, SELF, JUNEAU (via teleconference), shared that
he took care of his disabled daughter who required Medicaid
services. He shared information about his daughter and the
services she required. The most important program had been
the Medicaid home and community based waiver program. The
program had made a huge difference for his daughter. His
daughter required 24-hour care. He supported increased
funding for the waiver program and the care agencies and
indirect service providers and care coordinators. His
daughter lived a much better life as a result of the
services.
6:42:33 PM
LORRIE HEAGY, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that she is a teacher in
Juneau and was the 2010 teacher of the year. She thanked
committee members for their work in helping Alaska be a
place people wanted to live and stay. She encouraged an
increase in education funding. She shared that she had seen
teachers rotating out of key positions in the past five
years because teachers were leaving. She stated that class
sizes continued to grow and fourth and fifth grade classes
now had about 35 students. She was heartened by the
governor's statement in support of education. She
highlighted that the state had a right to be on equal
footing with the other states. She believed the only way it
was possible was to have sufficient funding for education
in order for kids and teachers to have a chance to be
successful. She encouraged increased education funding in
order to have manageable class sizes. She thanked the
committee.
Representative Galvin shared that Ms. Heagy taught her son
20 years back at a time when the class size was 25
students. She noted that her son was perhaps a challenge in
class. She shared that her son is a biophysicist and had
benefitted from Ms. Heagy's teaching.
6:45:54 PM
EMILY FERRY, SELF, JUNEAU, shared that she is a parent and
in her work life she had heard from employers across the
state who were having difficulty finding people to fill
positions. She encouraged the committee to invest in the
state's education system. She stressed that investment in
education resulted in better outcomes. The outcomes were
much worse when the budget was cut. She highlighted the
need to invest in elementary school and middle school. She
shared bridge models her children had made in school. Two
of her three kids now wanted to be engineers based on the
projects. She shared that her child's friend had shared
that he had days where there were over 100 kids and one
teacher. She was confident none of the students felt they
learned anything in a hands-on meaningful way when class
sizes were that large. She felt lucky to have choices of
different education programs (i.e., Montessori, charter,
and home school options). She reiterated her support for
increased funding for schools. She stated that a school
could close in Juneau without an increase in funding.
6:49:25 PM
Co-Chair Johnson noted there were no additional testifiers
online or in the room. She recessed the meeting until 7:30
p.m.
6:49:54 PM
RECESSED
7:33:55 PM
RECONVENED
Co-Chair Johnson relayed there were no additional
testifiers signed up. She shared that the call-in deadline
was 7:30 p.m. She expressed appreciation to those who had
testified. She reviewed the schedule for the following day.
She reviewed the LIO call-in numbers.
Representative Hannan understood there was an invitation to
a joint session from the Senate.
Co-Chair Johnson replied that in her opinion it was more
important to be present in committee to listen to the
public.
HB 39 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
HB 41 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
ADJOURNMENT
7:39:50 PM
The meeting was adjourned at 7:39 p.m.
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