Legislature(2019 - 2020)Anch LIO Lg Conf Rm

04/30/2020 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:04:09 AM Community Invited Testimony on Covid-19, Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (cares Act) Funding
11:36:39 AM Adjourn
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+ Community Invited Testimony on COVID-19 & TELECONFERENCED
Coronavirus Aid, Relief, & Economic Security
Act (CARES Act) Funding:
Alaska Municipal League - Nils Andreassen
Invited Municipalities: (Mayors or city managers)
Municipality of Anchorage
Fairbanks North Star Borough
Northwest Arctic Borough
Ketchikan Gateway Borough
Kenai Peninsula Borough
Kodiak Island Borough
Matanuska-Susitna Borough
Bristol Bay Borough
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       ANCHORAGE LIO                                                                                            
                      April 30, 2020                                                                                            
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:17 AM                                                                                                                    
[Note:  meeting  took place  in  the  Anchorage LIO  and  was                                                                   
recorded from Juneau.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the  House Finance Committee  meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Co-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair (via teleconference)                                                                       
Representative Andy Josephson (via teleconference)                                                                              
Representative Bart LeBon (via teleconference)                                                                                  
Representative Kelly Merrick (via teleconference)                                                                               
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard(via teleconference)                                                                     
Representative Cathy Tilton (via teleconference)                                                                                
Representative Adam Wool (via teleconference)                                                                                   
Representative Gary Knopp (via teleconference)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Nils   Andreassen,  Executive   Director,  Alaska   Municipal                                                                   
League, Juneau;  Paul Ostrander,  Kenai City Manager,  Kenai;                                                                   
Lucy  Nelson,  Mayor,  Northwest  Arctic  Borough,  Kotzebue;                                                                   
Bill  Roberts,   Mayor,  Kodiak;  Michael   Powers,  Manager,                                                                   
Kodiak Island  Borough, Kodiak;  Jason Bockenstedt,  Chief of                                                                   
Staff  to   Ethan  Berkowitz,   Municipality  of   Anchorage,                                                                   
Anchorage;  Verne  Halter, Mayor,  Mat-Su  Borough,  Wasilla;                                                                   
Bryce  Ward,  Mayor,  Fairbanks  North  Star  Borough,  North                                                                   
Pole;  Gregg   Brelsford,  Manager,   Bristol  Bay   Borough,                                                                   
Naknek;   Cynna  Gubatayao,   Finance   Director,   Ketchikan                                                                   
Gateway   Borough,    Ketchikan;   Speaker    Bryce   Edgmon;                                                                   
Representative  Matt  Claman; Representative  Ivy  Spohnholz;                                                                   
Representative Geran Tarr.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMUNITY  INVITED TESTIMONY  ON  COVID-19, CORONAVIRUS  AID,                                                                   
RELIEF, AND ECONOMIC SECURITY ACT (CARES ACT) FUNDING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster reviewed  the meeting  agenda. He  indicated                                                                   
the  committee would  be hearing  from municipal  governments                                                                   
regarding the use of COVID-19 response funding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^COMMUNITY  INVITED TESTIMONY  ON COVID-19, CORONAVIRUS  AID,                                                                 
RELIEF, AND ECONOMIC SECURITY ACT (CARES ACT) FUNDING                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:04:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS   ANDREASSEN,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA   MUNICIPAL                                                                   
LEAGUE, JUNEAU, read a prepared statement:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Impact  lost revenue and expenditures                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Many  actions  occurring  at  the  local  level  are  in                                                                   
     response  to  CDC  guidance   or  directives  and  State                                                                   
     mandates;   essentially,   local   lost   revenues   and                                                                   
     expenditures  are tied to  State and Federal  government                                                                   
     action.  Local governments  in  Alaska  share in  direct                                                                   
     and indirect  costs incurred  in response to  the public                                                                   
     health emergency.  Local budgets  are based  on economic                                                                   
     activity  that  is  restricted   by  State  and  Federal                                                                   
     decisions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's  local governments are  dependent on  a healthy                                                                   
     and  active economy.  Many local  economies have  single                                                                   
     drivers,   which  influence   the   revenues  of   local                                                                   
     governments.  COVID-19  will  negatively  impact  travel                                                                   
     and  tourism, retail,  fishing  and seafood  processing,                                                                   
     and   may  even  slow   mining,   oil  and  gas.   Local                                                                   
     governments  may see  reductions  in tax  revenue of  as                                                                   
     much  as 80-95%,  with  more  likely scenarios  of  50%.                                                                   
     This  will  deplete  savings,  reduce  overall  budgets,                                                                   
     escalate  the  need  for   increased  local  taxes,  and                                                                   
     affect  local  ability  to   pay  for  essential  public                                                                   
     services  (including public  safety  and education)  and                                                                   
     service  debt.  Again, this  is  occurring  mainly as  a                                                                   
     result of State and federal mitigation measures.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AML  estimates that  local government  revenues will  be                                                                   
     impacted  in the short  term   March  through June    by                                                                   
     as  much as  $150 million,  and  longer-term impacts  by                                                                   
     another  $100  million.  This includes  loss  of  sales,                                                                   
     bed, rental  car tax, downturn  in the fishing  industry                                                                   
     and  related  fisheries  revenue,  commercial  passenger                                                                   
     vessel fees,  utility fee and other tax  waivers, public                                                                   
     facility, bingo  and pull-tab closures,  and non-payment                                                                   
     of  property  tax,  or  property  tax  devaluation.  The                                                                   
     latter remains  to be determined  in terms of  what that                                                                   
     impact  will   actually  look  like  for   property  tax                                                                   
     dependent local governments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In addition  to these  COVID-19 related budget  impacts,                                                                   
     local   governments   are   considerate  of   real   and                                                                   
     potential   expenditures  during   this  public   health                                                                   
     crisis.  We  have  estimated potential  expenses  for  a                                                                   
     variety  of needs  to  be  as much  as  $250 million  or                                                                   
     more,  which  beyond  the  direct expenses  of  PPE  and                                                                   
     emergency management, includes:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • Mitigation measures  within public facilities                                                                       
        • Expanded leave requirements  of the FFCRA                                                                           
        • Vulnerable population support                                                                                       
        • Social    distancing    measures   for    councils,                                                                 
          assemblies and staff                                                                                                  
        • Reallocation  of  staff  time to  meet  alternative                                                                 
          schedules or as staff are moved to response                                                                           
        • Administrative  expenses,  and overtime  for  staff                                                                 
          filling other roles                                                                                                   
        • Utility fee and connection waivers                                                                                  
        • Workers comp claims/premiums                                                                                        
        • FEMA or grant match  requirements                                                                                   
        • New contracts  to replace vendors,  transportation,                                                                 
          food, and housing needs                                                                                               
        • Postponed project and re-permitting fees                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     As  you  can   see,  our  initial  estimates   of  local                                                                   
     government impact  are nearly $500 million,  with longer                                                                   
     term  needs further  adding to  this. Local  governments                                                                   
     will  need  support  from the  State  through  whichever                                                                   
     mechanisms    result   in   efficient    and   effective                                                                   
     disbursement.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     CARES Act restrictions  Treasury guidance is helpful                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     When  Congress passed  the  CARES Act,  state and  local                                                                   
     governments  were  very hopeful  that  the $150  billion                                                                   
     funding  provided  under  the  Coronavirus  Relief  Fund                                                                   
     would  help   address  the   challenges  at   hand.  For                                                                   
     Alaska's   cities   and   boroughs,  this   impact   was                                                                   
     specifically   felt  in   the   form  of   unanticipated                                                                   
     expenses and lost revenues.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The   CARES   Act   funding   will   help   with   those                                                                   
     unanticipated  expenses, as  they relate  to the  public                                                                   
     health emergency.  But the  restrictions at  the federal                                                                   
     level mean  that local budgets  can't be made  whole. In                                                                   
     fact, CARES  Act funding will  need to be used  by local                                                                   
     governments  on a wide range  of new programs.  This, in                                                                   
     many  ways,  is exciting     local governments  will  be                                                                   
     able   to   provide   additional    support   to   their                                                                   
     community's  most vulnerable  residents,  can work  with                                                                   
     nonprofit partners  on service delivery, and  can direct                                                                   
     funds  to  individual  and business  support  for  those                                                                   
     struggling during  the economic impacts of  the COVID-19                                                                   
     crisis.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This  funding  will  enable   local  governments  to  be                                                                   
     innovative as  they work with the community  to shore up                                                                   
     community  needs, even  as they struggle  to figure  out                                                                   
     how to meet their own.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's  local  governments  are  facing  unprecedented                                                                   
     budgetary   pressures        not   just   the   economic                                                                   
     contraction  related to  COVID-19 but  vetoes of  school                                                                   
     bond  debt   reimbursement  and  community   assistance,                                                                   
     among  others   that  end  up  not  being   able  to  be                                                                   
     backfilled  with  CARES  Act funding.  While  CARES  Act                                                                   
     funding will  likely help with the costs  that come with                                                                   
     responding  to  resident  and business  needs  during  a                                                                   
     public health  and economic crisis, revenue  losses that                                                                   
     might equal  between 20 and 80% of total  annual revenue                                                                   
     are  to date  not eligible  for any  relief funding.  As                                                                   
     much as we  were hopeful for flexibility  in using these                                                                   
     funds  to meet  these budgetary  needs, current  federal                                                                   
     restrictions   will   limit   the  ability   for   local                                                                   
     governments to make up the difference.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Uncertainty  questions but problem solving                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Where  does this leave  us? Planning  with a  great deal                                                                   
     of  uncertainty.  Local   governments  have  a  proposed                                                                   
     distribution  in front  of them from  the Governor,  but                                                                   
     don't know  what legislative action will  occur. We have                                                                   
     guidance from  Treasury that can be narrowly  or broadly                                                                   
     construed,  but  will need  federal  OMB and  additional                                                                   
     Treasury guidance  to work through all the  what ifs and                                                                   
     compliance  issues. Finally,  we're in  the middle  of a                                                                   
     budget   process  working   under  a   current  set   of                                                                   
     assumptions,  with very  little clarity  about what  the                                                                   
     future  holds  when it  comes  to public  health  needs.                                                                   
     Finally, it  is entirely possible that there  is further                                                                   
     Congressional   action.  We   just  don't  know   what's                                                                   
     coming.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     While  local  governments   have  questions  about  what                                                                   
     funds can  and can't be spent  on, there is still  a lot                                                                   
     of time to  work toward better answers. We  have time to                                                                   
     work  through  reporting   requirements,  documentation,                                                                   
     etc. We  can work toward  a mechanism to  move community                                                                   
     funds  between communities,  if there  is any risk  that                                                                   
     the allocation  may be unspent or not  spendable. We can                                                                   
     work toward  a way that  ensures recipients  provide the                                                                   
     State  with the justification  for  spent funds  that it                                                                   
     needs.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Right  now,   when  it   comes  to  uncertainty,   local                                                                   
     governments are  most concerned with the  risk involved.                                                                   
     That won't  go away until  we have some  clear processes                                                                   
     in place,  established by  OMB. It  won't go  away until                                                                   
     we  receive  additional information  from  Treasury  and                                                                   
     the   federal  OMB,   which   is   going  to   determine                                                                   
     procurement  and audit  procedures, as  well as  further                                                                   
     elaborate on allowable expenditures.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     AML  has committed  to  supporting  members during  this                                                                   
     time,  augmenting the  capacity of  members who  need it                                                                   
     for reporting  and compliance.  We'll expand  our member                                                                   
     services  portfolio  so that  we  can help  manage  that                                                                   
     risk in partnership with members.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Insurance    two  months into  multi-year pandemic,  and                                                                   
     still 8 months left to spend                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Spending  of CARES Act  funds must occur  by the  end of                                                                   
     this  calendar  year, with  a  look  back to  March  for                                                                   
     expenses  already  incurred.  We're  two months  into  a                                                                   
     potentially  multi-year pandemic.  We're  at a place  in                                                                   
     time  where   Alaska  has  flattened  the   curve.  Most                                                                   
     importantly,  we still have  restrictions on  interstate                                                                   
     travel  that includes  quarantine  requirements. But  we                                                                   
     have  a fishing  season that's  coming  very soon,  with                                                                   
     tens of  thousands of out  of state workers  coming into                                                                   
     very  small communities.  We hope to  have some  kind of                                                                   
     visitor season  beginning in July, with  in-state travel                                                                   
     already occurring.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     While  things  look  manageable  right now     and  that                                                                   
     depends  on where you  sit    CARES Act funding  ensures                                                                   
     that local  governments have the resources  necessary to                                                                   
     respond to needs that are still to come.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     It's  important  to  keep  in mind  just  how  different                                                                   
     local governments  are. Different powers  mean different                                                                   
     types  of  responses.  Everyone   is  practicing  social                                                                   
     distancing  in  different  ways.  We've had  stories  of                                                                   
     city  staff in  small communities  ensuring that  elders                                                                   
     are safe  and have  their needs  met. Bingo or  pull-tab                                                                   
     receipts  might  seem small  losses  for one  community,                                                                   
     but  are similar as  tax revenue  to others,  as a  % of                                                                   
     overall  budget. Closed  facilities  have meant  layoffs                                                                   
     and furloughs,  increased leave taken, and  very limited                                                                   
     services in some communities.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Local governments  will also experience  risk management                                                                   
     and  risk tolerance  differently. Everyone  wants  to be                                                                   
     sure  they comply  with  Treasury  guidance, that's  the                                                                   
     bottom  line.  No  one  wants   to  be  responsible  for                                                                   
     questionable  expenses that  need  to be  recouped at  a                                                                   
     later date.  So, we'll have to approach  this carefully.                                                                   
     Recognizing that  concern is important, even  as we work                                                                   
     really  hard  to  implement   this  in  support  of  our                                                                   
     communities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Making communities whole  local control                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I want  to leave you  with some  of the good  ideas that                                                                   
     have  come out of  conversations  these last few  weeks,                                                                   
     as ways  to leverage  the CARES  Act funding  in support                                                                   
     of   our   most   vulnerable   populations,   businesses                                                                   
     impacted by  State mandates, overcoming  challenges that                                                                   
     residents   might  be  experiencing,   and  to   provide                                                                   
     incentives for employees to come back to work.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        1. Purchasing   or   further   developing    homeless                                                                   
          shelters,    senior     centers    and    childcare                                                                   
          infrastructure                                                                                                        
        2. Healthcare  or  childcare  assistance   for  those                                                                   
          returning to work                                                                                                     
        3. Mortgage,  property  tax  or  rental   relief  and                                                                   
          assistance                                                                                                            
        4. Grants to  nonprofits     focused  on  those  with                                                                   
          essential service delivery or that contribute to                                                                      
          economic recovery and quality of life in the                                                                          
          community                                                                                                             
        5. Grants to businesses   focused on  small, locally-                                                                   
          owned, or year-round businesses                                                                                       
        6. Grants to residents   relief where  economies have                                                                   
          been impacted by 15% or more decreases                                                                                
        7. Improved    food    distribution,     food    bank                                                                   
          investments, local food access, etc.                                                                                  
        8. Support for schools, the university and hospitals                                                                    
        9. Marketing for health-informed  visitor and  retail                                                                   
          activity                                                                                                              
        10.    Projects  that  improve  community  access  to                                                                   
          safe water and sanitation                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Beyond these  broad support measures, we've  heard ideas                                                                   
     about   incentives   for   residents  that   wear   face                                                                   
     coverings,  or otherwise  contribute  to public  health.                                                                   
     Local  governments  may   need  to  transform  how  they                                                                   
     continue  to provide services  to residents.  That means                                                                   
     they'll need  to implement long-term  social distancing,                                                                   
     hygiene, and  sanitation measures. Community  facilities                                                                   
     will  need  to  be  renovated   to  meet  public  health                                                                   
     concerns.  We'll see  enhancements to  remote access  of                                                                   
     municipal  services,   including  a  move   toward  more                                                                   
     online   capabilities   that   don't   exist   in   most                                                                   
     communities.  Local  governments  will need  to  partner                                                                   
     with  their  school  districts to  enable  continued  or                                                                   
     enhanced distance  learning, support mental  health, and                                                                   
     accommodate  social  distancing measures  in  congregate                                                                   
     settings.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We  know that each  of these  needs to  be tied  back to                                                                   
     the public  health emergency,  as required by  the CARES                                                                   
     Act  guidance,  and  each innovative  approach  that  is                                                                   
     applied  needs   to  be  justified  to  the   State  and                                                                   
     ultimately  federal  government.  We're  confident  that                                                                   
     these    and  dozens of  other measures  that have  come                                                                   
     from local governments  meet the intent of CARES.                                                                          
     What's  most important,  from our  perspective, is  that                                                                   
     local  governments are  in a position  to support  their                                                                   
     communities.  That is a  fundamental priority  for local                                                                   
     governments.  Together,   they  have  the   capacity  to                                                                   
     manage these  funds with their residents  and businesses                                                                   
     in mind, in  a way that can be tailored  specific to the                                                                   
     needs  of  their  communities. Local  control  of  these                                                                   
     resources  is   critically  important  to   making  sure                                                                   
     Alaska's   residents   and  businesses   are   supported                                                                   
     throughout the public health and economic crisis.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:15:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  indicated Speaker  Bryce Edgmon  was online.                                                                   
He provided the line-up of testifiers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Sullivan-Leonard thanked  Mr. Andreassen  for                                                                   
his  testimony.  She,  along   with  the  Alaska  delegation,                                                                   
wanted  to make  sure that  communities  received funding  as                                                                   
quickly  as possible. She  asked what  kind of  conversations                                                                   
he  had had  with the  U.S. Department  of  Treasury and  the                                                                   
National  Association  of  Counties (NACO)  to  access  funds                                                                   
quickly for communities in need.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreasen indicated  he was on daily calls  with NACO and                                                                   
National League  of Cities (NLC) partners in  Washington D.C.                                                                   
He was encouraged  by a call he  had had earlier in  the week                                                                   
with  treasury officials  that outlined  and provided  better                                                                   
guidance that  he expected  to receive  more formally  in the                                                                   
near future. They  provided some latitude as  he mentioned in                                                                   
his  remarks. While  the federal  government  was very  clear                                                                   
that  the funds  could not  be  used for  lost revenue,  they                                                                   
could  be  used  to support  community  needs.  He  was  also                                                                   
hearing that  needs were  immediate, as  many cities  were on                                                                   
the brink  across the  nation. Some  Alaskan communities  had                                                                   
reported having  to let go of  personnel. It was  critical to                                                                   
disburse funds immediately.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Sullivan-Leonard  asked   if  a   particular                                                                   
route, the revised  program legislative (RPL)  process or the                                                                   
direct   grant  process,   was  more   conducive  for   local                                                                   
governments. She  wondered if getting the money  out to where                                                                   
it  was most  needed was  more important  than which  process                                                                   
was used.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen was  not in a position to speak  to the method                                                                   
used  to disburse  the funding.  Instead,  he emphasized  the                                                                   
importance  of getting  the  funding  out to  communities  as                                                                   
quickly  as possible.  Alaskan communities  were hurting  and                                                                   
clearly had needs at a time of crisis.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:19:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  took the  committee  back to  June                                                                   
28,  2019 and  the governor's  vetoes  in the  range of  $440                                                                   
million.  In  early  July  2019 in  a  special  session,  the                                                                   
legislature swiftly  passed HB  2001 which restored  about 85                                                                   
percent  of  the $440  million  in  vetoes. He  believed  the                                                                   
governor,  under pressure,  only vetoed  about 55 percent  of                                                                   
the restored  funds. He noted  that AML's members saw  a veto                                                                   
of  school  bond  debt  reimbursement,   K-12  monies,  ferry                                                                   
system  monies, and  community assistance  funding. He  asked                                                                   
if the  legislature should  consider restoring  the funds  in                                                                   
order  to  know  unequivocally  that  any  treasury  guidance                                                                   
would not hamstring the purpose of the appropriation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  reported that AML  was concerned with  how to                                                                   
shore up local  government finances and would  appreciate the                                                                   
legislature's  consideration in  the matter  beyond what  the                                                                   
Cares  Act  could  provide. The  Cares  Act  had  significant                                                                   
functionality  when it  came to how  local governments  could                                                                   
support  their communities.  It would  provide a  significant                                                                   
amount  of  funding for  expenditures  communities  were  not                                                                   
planning  on  in   the  current  or  upcoming   fiscal  year.                                                                   
Conversations  would  still  need  to take  place  about  the                                                                   
effects of the  vetoes around school bond  debt reimbursement                                                                   
and  community assistance  for FY  21. He  thought state  and                                                                   
local governments  would have  to work together  to determine                                                                   
what local  governments would need  in order to  avoid taxes,                                                                   
reductions  to  services,  or additional  unemployment  at  a                                                                   
time when everyone was hurting.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  mentioned the  ongoing  discussion                                                                   
at  the federal  level about  additional  funding for  states                                                                   
and cities.  United States Senator  McConnell seemed  open to                                                                   
the  idea  but  wanted  a  provision   included  to  preclude                                                                   
liability  for funds  that had  previously been  appropriated                                                                   
in  the CARES  ACT.  He wondered  if  the legislature  should                                                                   
encourage the  governor to join states  wanting discretionary                                                                   
money  that  Mr.  Andreassen  had  outlined  in  his  opening                                                                   
remarks.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen responded  affirmatively.  His  understanding                                                                   
was  that the  restrictions  of the  CARES  Act funding  were                                                                   
federal  limitations. He  was  aware that  the intent  behind                                                                   
getting  the funds  to local  governments was  to help  local                                                                   
government. At  the federal level,  the conditions  placed on                                                                   
the funds  restricted the  ability for  local governments  to                                                                   
do the things  they needed to. He encouraged  every effort to                                                                   
be made by local  and state governments to  apply pressure on                                                                   
congress.  He hoped Alaska's  congressional delegation  could                                                                   
be local government  champions in the coming  weeks by either                                                                   
fixing  the  CARES  Act  to allow  for  lost  revenue  or  by                                                                   
creating a new  funding distribution with  fewer restrictions                                                                   
that went directly to local governments.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:24:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  the committee  had  been  joined  by                                                                   
Representative Matt Claman.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz  thought   it  was   clear,  through   Mr.                                                                   
Andreasen's testimony,  that CARES  Act money being  provided                                                                   
by the  federal government could  be spent to  mitigate costs                                                                   
related  to  dealing  with  COVID-19.  However,  the  funding                                                                   
could not  be used to  supplement revenue losses  experienced                                                                   
by  communities  around the  state.  He queried  whether  any                                                                   
flexibility in the  use of the funds was indicated  in any of                                                                   
the  conversations  Mr.  Andreassen   had  had  with  federal                                                                   
government  officials. He  wondered if  he was still  hopeful                                                                   
about either  a different  appropriation  from congress  or a                                                                   
change in the  terms around the Cares Act  funding being used                                                                   
to supplement lost revenues by municipalities.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Andreassen  reported that the  U.S. Treasury had  drawn a                                                                   
hard  line about  a  lost revenue  replacement.  He was  less                                                                   
confident in  the ability to amend  the CARES Act  to include                                                                   
lost revenue replacement.  However, he was hopeful  about the                                                                   
work congress was  doing to create new pathways  for funds to                                                                   
reach local  governments  with legislation  in the works.  He                                                                   
indicated that  the Cares Act  funding was helpful  for local                                                                   
governments  to use for  their communities  and, at  the same                                                                   
time, suggested  that additional measures would  be needed to                                                                   
help shore up budgets at the local level.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz suggested  that much  of the funding  would                                                                   
need to  be returned  if there  were no  changes made  to the                                                                   
terms of use for  the existing Cares Act funding  and with no                                                                   
additional relief money in sight.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Andreassen was  hearing  from municipalities  that  they                                                                   
would  be able  to  use the  funding.  However,  it would  be                                                                   
helpful if  there was  a mechanism  in place to  redistribute                                                                   
the funds within  a broader allocation. He  indicated that if                                                                   
a community  was unable  to spend  its portion  of the  CARES                                                                   
Act funding, it  would be important for a provision  to be in                                                                   
place  to  ensure  that  the funding  could  be  shared  with                                                                   
another  community  in  need.  He  thought  reallocation  was                                                                   
something to plan for in the near future.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster acknowledged  Representative Ivy  Spohnholz.                                                                   
He  reviewed the  list  of invited  testifiers  in the  order                                                                   
they would be heard.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:29:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  OSTRANDER,  KENAI  CITY   MANAGER,  KENAI  thought  Mr.                                                                   
Andreassen  had done an  excellent job  of capturing  most of                                                                   
the concerns of  municipalities with his statement.  He would                                                                   
add some  things from the perspective  of the City  of Kenai.                                                                   
He  suggested  that  the  needs  varied  drastically  between                                                                   
municipalities  across  the  state depending  on  sources  of                                                                   
revenue. However,  every community  in the state  was hurting                                                                   
from  the current  pandemic. He  agreed  with Mr.  Andreassen                                                                   
that   revenue   replacement   was  desperately   needed   by                                                                   
municipalities, and the Cares Act did not allow for it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrander  reported that  for decades  the City  of Kenai                                                                   
had been fiscally  conservative and financially  responsible.                                                                   
He reported  no tax  increases in the  previous 5  years. The                                                                   
city had a  fund policy in place requiring  that expenditures                                                                   
equaled  revenues  over  a 3-year  period.  Essentially,  the                                                                   
city could  not deficit spend.  He relayed that the  city did                                                                   
not carry  an excess fund balance,  as a fund balance  of the                                                                   
municipal purse  meant over-taxation. The preparation  of the                                                                   
current  budget had  been the  most difficult  of his  career                                                                   
because  there were  several uncertainties.  The borough  had                                                                   
had  plans to  address deferred  maintenance but  as soon  as                                                                   
the pandemic  hit, it had to  restart its budget  process. He                                                                   
mentioned  that  during the  process  the  city cut  over  $1                                                                   
million in  capital projects  that had  been planned  for the                                                                   
following  year.   He  noted  furloughing  4   positions  and                                                                   
identifying  3 additional  positions  that would  need to  be                                                                   
eliminated  in   the  following  year.  The  city   was  also                                                                   
increasing  the amount  that  employers  paid for  healthcare                                                                   
premiums. Even with  the steps the city had  already taken, a                                                                   
huge  general  fund deficit  of  approximately  $760,000  was                                                                   
projected  for the following  fiscal year.  The city's  total                                                                   
general fund  budget was $16.5  million. He reported  that in                                                                   
the  remainder  of  the  current fiscal  year  (FY  20),  the                                                                   
borough anticipated  a revenue loss of $600,000.  He strongly                                                                   
encouraged  the House to  approve the  CARES Act request  for                                                                   
proposal  (RPL) to  the  governor, specifically  the  portion                                                                   
for   direct    municipal   relief    in   the    amount   of                                                                   
$562.5 million. He  noted the importance of  distributing the                                                                   
funds to  municipalities  and boroughs  across the state,  as                                                                   
local  control was  critical.  Municipalities  were aware  of                                                                   
the needs of their communities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrander  expressed concerns about the  current guidance                                                                   
by  the U.S.  Treasury  Department.  He noted  having  talked                                                                   
with  several  other  municipalities  around  the  state  and                                                                   
found  that  the  interpretation  of  the  guidelines  varied                                                                   
dramatically.   The  City  of   Kenai  was  struggling   with                                                                   
determining the  appropriate use of  the CARES Act  funds. He                                                                   
recommended  guidance  from  the  Office  of  Management  and                                                                   
Budget (OMB), as  communities would likely utilize  the funds                                                                   
in a way  that was not appropriate  in the eyes  of treasury.                                                                   
It was  possible that  communities would  be asked  to return                                                                   
funding  to the federal  government if  misused. He  asserted                                                                   
that  every  community  was  struggling   with  how  to  best                                                                   
utilize  the funds.  He strongly  encouraged the  legislature                                                                   
to  approve the  request  from the  governor  and to  request                                                                   
clear guidance as to how to spend the money appropriately.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrander  emphasized that the  state needed to  take the                                                                   
critical   step   of   encouraging   Alaska's   congressional                                                                   
delegation and  congress as a  whole to pass  legislation for                                                                   
additional  stimulus funding  that  would  allow for  revenue                                                                   
replacement  for municipalities.  He  concluded his  comments                                                                   
and made himself available for questions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:36:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  asked if  the City of  Kenai had  used its                                                                   
bonding  capacity.  She  asked  if the  city's  fund  balance                                                                   
backed up its bonding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ostrander  responded  that  the  city had  one  bond,  a                                                                   
library  bond,  that was  10  years  into a  20-year  period.                                                                   
Essentially,  the city  had used  $2 million  of its  bonding                                                                   
capability.  It  was likely  that  the  city would  be  using                                                                   
$5 million  to  $7  million  more  of  its  capacity  in  the                                                                   
following  several years.  He  elaborated that  the city  had                                                                   
been working  on a bluff  stabilization project for  about 40                                                                   
years  and  had  finally  made   progress  to  the  point  of                                                                   
construction  which  will  begin  in  FY 21  or  FY  22.  The                                                                   
project would  require significant  additional bonding  and a                                                                   
match from the city.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston asked  if  the fund  balance  was used  to                                                                   
back the  city's bond. She  wondered how the  city calculated                                                                   
the needed  fund balance.  Mr. Ostrander  responded  that the                                                                   
city  based  its'  fund balance  on  the  Government  Finance                                                                   
Officers Association's  (GFOA)  best guidelines. He  provided                                                                   
an example.  If the city  were to bond  for an additional  $5                                                                   
million  to $7 million  it would  increase its'  expenditures                                                                   
in  the general  fund which  would also  increase the  city's                                                                   
fund  balance  range.  The  guideline   was  comprised  of  a                                                                   
combination  of  expenditures  and the  minimum  and  maximum                                                                   
fund  balances  necessary  to   support  expenses  in  future                                                                   
years.   Co-Chair   Johnston   suggested   that  it   was   a                                                                   
significant impact on the city's fund balance.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  the committee  had  been  joined  by                                                                   
Representative Geran Tarr.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUCY  NELSON,  MAYOR,  NORTHWEST  ARCTIC  BOROUGH,  KOTZEBUE,                                                                   
reported  she  had  provided  a  position  statement  to  the                                                                   
governor  and some  of  the legislative  leaders  previously.                                                                   
She  wanted to  talk  about how  the  federal  Cares Act  was                                                                   
impacting   the  Northwest   Arctic   Borough.  She   thanked                                                                   
legislators for  their strong state leadership  in addressing                                                                   
COVID-19  and  the  transparent  and  frequent  communication                                                                   
about  what was  happening. She  reported  that the  economic                                                                   
impact to  residents and communities  from COVID-19  had been                                                                   
sudden  and  severe.  She  thought   it  was  important  that                                                                   
federal  assistance  was  accurately  targeted  to  meet  the                                                                   
needs faced by communities.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson continued  that,  as explained  in her  written                                                                   
position  statement,  she  had concerns  about  the  proposed                                                                   
payments  to communities  across  the state.  She provided  a                                                                   
small  history  about  the  borough.   The  Northwest  Arctic                                                                   
Borough  had a  population  of  approximately  7,700 and  was                                                                   
comprised of  eleven communities: Ambler,  Buckland, Deering,                                                                   
Kiana, Kivalina,  Kobuk, Kotzebue, Noatak,  Noorvik, Selawik,                                                                   
and Shungnak.  The borough  was scattered  across an  area of                                                                   
about 38,000  square miles  with no  road systems  connecting                                                                   
its communities.  The lack of  a connecting road  system made                                                                   
residents   heavily  dependent   on   expensive  travel   and                                                                   
increased  costs   for  the   transportation  of   goods  and                                                                   
supplies.  The   large  geographical  size  of   the  borough                                                                   
hampered  its  ability  to  provide  adequate  emergency  and                                                                   
public safety services and other necessary public services.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson  also   provided  a  general  picture   of  the                                                                   
borough's finances.  The borough  had done its  due diligence                                                                   
by  being a  good  partner with  the  state,  at the  federal                                                                   
level,  and   with  local  organizations.  The   borough  had                                                                   
leveraged  huge  projects  with its  excess  funds  including                                                                   
projects such as  the Kivalina evacuation road  in the amount                                                                   
of  $4.9 million.  The borough  had additional  bond debt  in                                                                   
the amount of  $12.7 million for the Kivalina  new school. It                                                                   
had  advanced funding  for the  Cape Lawson  Road project  to                                                                   
facilitate  the mobilization  of  gravel.  The project  would                                                                   
begin in the coming spring.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson  reported that  more  than  50 percent  of  the                                                                   
borough's  annual  budget  paid  for  bond  debt  for  school                                                                   
construction  and  improvements.  In  addition,  the  borough                                                                   
helped with  local education contributions  and scholarships.                                                                   
The  remainder  of  its  operating   budget  went  to  public                                                                   
services  such as  public safety,  fire-fighting, and  search                                                                   
and  rescue.  The  borough  had   over  140  volunteers  that                                                                   
assisted  with emergency  needs.  The  budget  also paid  for                                                                   
administrative staffing.  Every time the  borough experienced                                                                   
a  funding reduction,  it  had a  significant  impact on  its                                                                   
ability to provide basic services.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Maynor Nelson  indicated that  when the borough  received the                                                                   
governor's  plan for  the distribution  of  $1.25 billion  in                                                                   
Alaska CARES Act  funding to communities a  former allocation                                                                   
method  was used  to determine  the funding  amount for  each                                                                   
community.  The proposed  formula  calculation  significantly                                                                   
reduced  the funding  the  Northwest Arctic  Borough  usually                                                                   
received  for  school  bond  debt   reimbursement,  community                                                                   
assistance,  Village Public  Safety  Officer (VPSO)  funding.                                                                   
The  borough's VPSO  funding  was  cut drastically  by  about                                                                   
$800,000.  The CARES Act  funding allowed  45 percent  of the                                                                   
state's allocation  to go directly to larger  communities and                                                                   
counties above  500,000 residents  but did not  direct states                                                                   
to  provide   the  same   amount  of   funding  for   smaller                                                                   
communities.  She  emphasized   the  large  decrease  in  the                                                                   
borough's  funding.  She  recognized the  importance  of  the                                                                   
CARES Act  funding    it was critical  for local  governments                                                                   
to  continue to  provide  local prevention,  mitigation,  and                                                                   
response to COVID-19.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Nelson indicated  the borough had been  working closely                                                                   
with   all    of   its    communities.   The   borough    had                                                                   
representatives    from    all    of   its    villages    and                                                                   
representatives  from all of its  local organizations  on its                                                                   
COVID-19 Task Force.  The task force had met for  over a week                                                                   
to  discuss  how  to  slow  and   prevent  the  disease.  The                                                                   
Northwest Arctic  Borough had  not yet had  a case in  any of                                                                   
its villages  and would continue  with the hunker  down order                                                                   
through May 19, 2020.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Nelson reemphasized  that the funding was  critical for                                                                   
maintaining  and  operating  the   Northwest  Arctic  Borough                                                                   
during  the  current  public health  emergency  and  economic                                                                   
crisis.   The   proposed   funding  of   $1.2   million   was                                                                   
significantly  less than  what the  borough usually  received                                                                   
in   state   aid  for   community   assistance,   bond   debt                                                                   
reimbursement,  and other  grants  such as  the  one for  the                                                                   
VPSO Program. The  issue posed a significant  problem and had                                                                   
to  be fixed,  as  the borough  could  not impose  additional                                                                   
taxes  on  its   residents  who  were   already  economically                                                                   
distressed. Also,  Native land was  not taxable. Much  of the                                                                   
borough's  revenue  came  from  a  long-term  agreement  with                                                                   
Tech Incorporated and  could not be modified  or renegotiated                                                                   
until 2026. Unfortunately,  the borough had no  other options                                                                   
to increase revenue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson  reported  that   previously  the  borough  was                                                                   
reimbursed for  $4 million  of the $6.9  million that  it was                                                                   
obligated  to pay.  The  borough's total  debt  for 2020  was                                                                   
$40 million.  She  had  to  look   at  the  borough's  budget                                                                   
closely  to supplant the  previous funding  committed  by the                                                                   
state  for essential  borough  services  which protected  the                                                                   
lives, health,  and safety  of residents. Without  additional                                                                   
funding,  services would  have to be  reduced or  eliminated.                                                                   
She reiterated  that the borough  had done its  due diligence                                                                   
to  improve the  economic  wellbeing  of its  residents.  Any                                                                   
change  in  the  state's  commitment   on  school  bond  debt                                                                   
reimbursement  and other grant  programs posed a  significant                                                                   
burden on  its local  communities. For  example, through  the                                                                   
Community  Assistance Program  the  borough usually  received                                                                   
$300,000.  It  shared  the funding  with  every  municipality                                                                   
including   the  Noatak  Indian   Reorganization   Act  (IRA)                                                                   
Council  (Noatak  did not  have  a local  municipality).  She                                                                   
furthered  that  whenever the  Community  Assistance  Program                                                                   
was   reduced,  funding   to   the  borough's   small   local                                                                   
governments was  decreased or eliminated. She  concluded that                                                                   
all  of the  progress  the borough  made  in improving  basic                                                                   
services  like  water, sewer,  sanitation,  fire  protection,                                                                   
search and  rescue, and  other public  service programs  over                                                                   
the  previous   20  years   were  negatively  impacted.   The                                                                   
proposed  CARES  Act  distribution  of $1.2  million  was  70                                                                   
percent  less  than  the amounts  that  the  borough  usually                                                                   
received in  funding from  the State of  Alaska. At  the same                                                                   
time,  the   borough's  communities  were   facing  increased                                                                   
expenses   responding  to   COVID-19  as   a  public   health                                                                   
emergency - a new type of disaster.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson  continued  that   there  were  other  tangible                                                                   
impacts  resulting  from  the   pandemic  included  increased                                                                   
public  safety,  housing,  homelessness,  and  mental  health                                                                   
issues which  had to  be addressed.  Basic local  governments                                                                   
were  being  asked  to  do more  with  less  money  during  a                                                                   
national health  emergency and  economic crisis.  The borough                                                                   
strongly  encouraged  the  state legislature  and  the  House                                                                   
Finance Committee  to reconsider the allocation  formula. She                                                                   
suggested  that, at  minimum,  the state  legislature  should                                                                   
include full  funding of school  bond debt reimbursement  and                                                                   
community  assistance through  available funding  mechanisms.                                                                   
The Northwest  Arctic Borough requested that  the legislature                                                                   
meet   the   needs  of   communities   during   the   current                                                                   
unprecedented  times.  She thanked  members  for hearing  her                                                                   
testimony and was available for questions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:48:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   commented   that   the   Mayor's                                                                   
testimony was very helpful. He thanked her.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  commented that the borough operated  under a                                                                   
PILT  [Payment in  lieu  of taxation]  system.  He noted  her                                                                   
remarks  that the  borough  could  not increase  revenue  and                                                                   
school  bond debt  reimbursement  was vetoed.  Normally,  the                                                                   
options  would be  that the  borough  could make  up for  the                                                                   
money with increased  revenue through increasing  taxes such,                                                                   
as  property taxes,  or  reduce  expenses. In  the  borough's                                                                   
case, it  could not  increase taxes. The  only option  it had                                                                   
was to  make cuts. He asked  if his assessment  was accurate.                                                                   
Mayor  Nelson responded  that  the Northwest  Arctic  Borough                                                                   
did not  tax its  residents with  a property  tax because  10                                                                   
out of 11 communities were in economic distress.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked if  the  borough had  been  working                                                                   
with  the tribal  governments for  additional funding.  Mayor                                                                   
Nelson  responded  that the  borough  had been  contacted  by                                                                   
several  of  the  tribal  communities.   She  explained  that                                                                   
tribal  communities   had  more   power  to  get   additional                                                                   
funding.  The   borough  had  applied  for   funding  through                                                                   
federal  and  state   programs  and  had  not   received  any                                                                   
responses.  She  explained  that the  borough  was  different                                                                   
from a tribal entity.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  commented, "I  realize that does  not help                                                                   
you in your situation."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:51:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wool  asked  if   the  health   facility  in                                                                   
Kotzebue  was  under  strain presently  and  whether  it  was                                                                   
community owned.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Nelson  responded  that the health  facility was  owned                                                                   
by Maniilaq  Association who  managed the  clinics in  all of                                                                   
the  village locations  including Point  Hope. She  confirmed                                                                   
that   the  health   facilities   were   under  strain.   She                                                                   
elaborated  that  there were  about  50 participants  in  the                                                                   
borough's  COVID-19.  They  were   able  to  get  some  rapid                                                                   
testing. The borough  had huge concerns since it  had not had                                                                   
a case to-date.  She reported that the borough  was trying to                                                                   
prepare  should a  case arise.  There had  been high  concern                                                                   
regarding  in-state  travel.  She  had  reached  out  to  the                                                                   
governor to  have certain  mandates in place  and a  means of                                                                   
enforcing  them,  particularly  at hub  airports.  She  noted                                                                   
that people  were supporting  each other.  She mentioned  the                                                                   
Northwest  Arctic  Leadership   Group  which  included  NANA,                                                                   
Northwest Arctic  Borough, Northwest Arctic  School District,                                                                   
and   Maniilaq.   The   group   had   contributed   supplies.                                                                   
Preparedness  in the  event of  an outbreak  would depend  on                                                                   
the resources the borough received.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wool  asked  if   the  borough   expected  a                                                                   
seasonal  influx like  other  communities.  He queried  about                                                                   
the mine  population and whether  the mine was  separate from                                                                   
the communities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Nelson  responded  that  the mine  was  separate  from                                                                   
communities.  The mine  was flying its  workers to  Anchorage                                                                   
and housing  them there.  Travel for  essential services  was                                                                   
the only  type that  was being allowed.  The borough  had its                                                                   
public  health nurses  conducting screening  at the  airport,                                                                   
asking  passengers  about  their   reasons  for  travel.  The                                                                   
borough  was   taking  every  measure  possible   to  conduct                                                                   
screening.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:54:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson wondered  how the funding  provided                                                                   
to tribal  entities would  help villages  as members  of AML.                                                                   
He  wondered  about a  distinction.  Mayor  Nelson  responded                                                                   
that tribal entities  received their funding  separately from                                                                   
the  Northwest Arctic  Borough. The  tribes were  responsible                                                                   
for making  their own budget  plans and determining  how they                                                                   
spend  the funds.  The  borough had  been  compiling its  own                                                                   
general  fund   sources  from   the  4  entities   and  local                                                                   
organizations that  were able to contribute such  as cleaning                                                                   
materials  and   masks.  Unless  they  asked   for  technical                                                                   
assistance, they decided how they would spend their money.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  about revenue.  The  mayor  had                                                                   
mentioned that the  borough had no property  tax. He wondered                                                                   
about the PILT  related to the Red Dog Mine.  He asked her to                                                                   
explain how the  funding worked. Mayor Nelson  responded that                                                                   
because   the   borough's   10   of   11   communities   were                                                                   
economically  distressed,  the  assembly  and  administration                                                                   
decided not to  impose a property tax. She  further explained                                                                   
that  through PILT,  a different  arrangement  and under  the                                                                   
borough's  code, it  had the authority  to  enforce a  tax on                                                                   
mining  companies. The  borough had  been doing  it for  more                                                                   
than  25  years.  In the  past  the  borough  had  negotiated                                                                   
agreements in 3-year  increments. Currently, there  was a 10-                                                                   
year PILT  agreement (2016    2026) in  place with  an option                                                                   
to extend it for  an additional 5 years. It was  based on the                                                                   
mine's  production   volume  after   an  annual   audit.  The                                                                   
borough's  annual budget for  2020 was  $28 million,  much of                                                                   
which went towards education and public services.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon noted Mayor  Nelson had mentioned  that                                                                   
the Village  Public Safety  Officer (VPSO)  Program had  been                                                                   
cut. He  asked if  the borough  had been  unable to  fill any                                                                   
positions  in  which  the borough  had  qualified  applicants                                                                   
ready  to   go  to  work.   He  also  wondered   whether  the                                                                   
Department  of Public  Safety  assisted the  borough when  it                                                                   
had asked  for help in filling  the positions  with qualified                                                                   
applicants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Nelson responded  that in 2019 the grant  agreement was                                                                   
for   about  $1.1   million  which   included   approximately                                                                   
7 positions.  In 2020 the  program had  been cut to  $353,000                                                                   
which  was equal  to 2.5  positions.  She had  talked to  the                                                                   
Department  of Public Safety  and the  governor. They  stated                                                                   
that if  the borough  was able  to fill  the positions,  they                                                                   
would supplant them.  Currently, there was one  graduate from                                                                   
the VPSO  academy. There were  two others who  returned home.                                                                   
There were  2-3 applicants being  screened. One  other person                                                                   
came  onboard  yesterday  and another  possible  person  will                                                                   
come on in June.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon wanted to  confirm that if  the borough                                                                   
had qualified applicants  ready for the academy  and ready to                                                                   
fill positions,  the borough  had received  support from  DPS                                                                   
to   fill  the   positions.  Mayor   Nelson  responded   that                                                                   
Representative  LeBon was  correct. The  borough had  to work                                                                   
closely with  them and provide  a justification  of increased                                                                   
positions. The department  had been willing to  work with the                                                                   
borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL   ROBERTS,  MAYOR,   KODIAK,   was   working  with   the                                                                   
governor's  office because  he thought  the appropriation  of                                                                   
Kodiak's CARES Act  money was much lower than  it should have                                                                   
been.  Even  if  Kodiak  were to  get  additional  CARES  Act                                                                   
money,  the  rules for  spending  it  were very  limited.  He                                                                   
indicated  that the  largest concern  was  around the  monies                                                                   
lost  through   the  veto  process   for  school   bond  debt                                                                   
reimbursement  and  community  assistance. The  reduction  of                                                                   
both  items  would  increase   the  tax  burden  of  Kodiak's                                                                   
property owners  by about  50 percent.  He explained  that it                                                                   
would  be incredibly  difficult  for residents  of Kodiak  to                                                                   
backfill   bond  reimbursement   and   community   assistance                                                                   
monies. The borough  was currently working on  the budget but                                                                   
had  delayed  submitting  it  hoping  for an  answer  to  the                                                                   
vetoes and to find  out whether the CARES Act  money could be                                                                   
used to  help with bond  debt. Apparently, the  funding could                                                                   
not be used for bond debt.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Roberts  indicated  that one of  the borough's  largest                                                                   
problems  was timing.  It had  to have  a budget  by June  8,                                                                   
2020. The borough  was required to hold 2  public meetings to                                                                   
pass the ordinance  for the budget. The borough  was planning                                                                   
for  the worst  circumstance  because  of  the foley  of  the                                                                   
previous  year's   budgeting  process  anticipating   a  veto                                                                   
override  and incorporating  it into  the budget.  Currently,                                                                   
it appeared the  borough would have to plan for  a 50 percent                                                                   
tax  increase  in order  to  fill  the  funding gap.  He  was                                                                   
concerned with the  effects a tax increase would  have on the                                                                   
community.  He  was  looking   to  the  legislature  to  move                                                                   
quickly  to cover  some  of the  costs  associated with  bond                                                                   
debt  reimbursement and  community  assistance. He  concluded                                                                   
his testimony.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:03:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  POWERS,  MANAGER,  KODIAK  ISLAND  BOROUGH,  KODIAK,                                                                   
read a prepared statement:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The borough  very much appreciates the House  and Senate                                                                   
     approving  the full school  bond debt reimbursement  and                                                                   
     community  assistance funding  this  year. However,  the                                                                   
     governor's  veto, with  his  hollow promise  to make  up                                                                   
     the funds,  left the borough facing over  a $5.8 million                                                                   
     shortfall  in  debt  service,  and we  are  losing  over                                                                   
     $300,000  from the  community  assistance program.  This                                                                   
     will  result in  a  nearly 50  percent  increase in  our                                                                   
    property taxes for every property owner on Kodiak.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     While we  appreciate the CARES  funding and will  put it                                                                   
     to use,  it cannot  replace the  funds that were  vetoed                                                                   
     by  the  governor.  First  of  all,  there  are  federal                                                                   
     restrictions   that   prohibit   it.  Second,   it   was                                                                   
     substantially  less  than   what  was  provided  by  the                                                                   
     legislature's   funding   of   school  bond   debt   and                                                                   
     community  assistance. The  lack of  flexibility in  the                                                                   
     CARES  Act funding,  the uncertainty  of what the  rules                                                                   
     will  be, and  what the  federal government  may do  all                                                                   
     leave Kodiak Island Borough in the lurch.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     At the same  time as we are addressing  COVID-19 issues,                                                                   
     we are  having to  prepare for  a potential second  wave                                                                   
     that  "experts" are  telling us  we are  likely to  face                                                                   
     this  fall with  unknown  impacts at  that time.  Kodiak                                                                   
     Island  Borough  has  been   fiscally  conservative  for                                                                   
     years, and, like  others, have kept our taxes  as low as                                                                   
     possible,  provide services  that  our residents  demand                                                                   
     in  an  efficient  manner,  and  keep  our  expenses  in                                                                   
     check.  In   light  of  last  year's  vetoes,   we  left                                                                   
     positions   unfilled,   reduced  positions,   and   will                                                                   
     continue to  do so this year,  as well as,  reducing our                                                                   
     capital  expenditures  at   a  time  when  much  of  our                                                                   
     infrastructure  is aging. I  would urge you  to consider                                                                   
     the  impacts   of  the   governor's  vetoes   and  their                                                                   
     devastating   impacts   both   on   Kodiak   and   other                                                                   
     communities  and strongly  urge  you to  take action  to                                                                   
     restore the funds vetoed by the governor.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Powers  thanked the  committee for  taking the  time to                                                                   
listening  to the  borough's needs  and the  needs of  fellow                                                                   
communities. He was available for questions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  asked if  the borough had  a sales  tax or                                                                   
fish landing  fees. Mayor Powers  responded that  the borough                                                                   
did  not  have a  sales  tax  measure  although the  City  of                                                                   
Kodiak  did.   He  indicated   that  the  borough   collected                                                                   
severance taxes for  fish landing at the local  level as well                                                                   
as  receiving   pass-through  monies  from  the   state  fish                                                                   
business tax.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston asked  who was  responsible for  providing                                                                   
public  safety  -  the  city or  the  borough.  Mayor  Powers                                                                   
responded  that the city  provided public  safety within  the                                                                   
city  limits.  The  Alaska  State  Troopers  provided  public                                                                   
safety and  law enforcement within  the borough.  He reported                                                                   
that  the  borough  had  2  fire  protection  districts  that                                                                   
provided fire  protection for  the more urbanized  areas that                                                                   
were outside the city limits.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:07:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston   asked  if  the  borough   had  a  health                                                                   
authority.   Mayor   Powers   responded   affirmatively.   He                                                                   
explained that  when the borough  was founded it  took health                                                                   
powers. The  borough operated a  hospital that was  leased to                                                                   
Providence.  A long-term  lease  was in  place that  provided                                                                   
for  the maintenance  of  the facility.  Providence  provided                                                                   
the   health  care   piece.   The  borough   partnered   with                                                                   
Providence  at  various  times on  various  issues  including                                                                   
mental health and COVID-19.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  wondered if  the city  and borough  had an                                                                   
emergency response  cooperative agreement. She was  trying to                                                                   
determine  where  the  borough  could  spend  the  CARES  Act                                                                   
monies. Mayor Powers  replied that by ordinance  the city and                                                                   
borough   functioned   as   a  joint   unit   for   emergency                                                                   
operations.  A  jointly manned  emergency  operations  center                                                                   
was  in place.  The emergency  services council,  made up  of                                                                   
borough, city,  and U.S. Coast  Guard personnel,  set policy.                                                                   
The   emergency   operations   center   and   the   emergency                                                                   
management  team operated  jointly between  city and  borough                                                                   
staff dealing with all emergencies in a joint manner.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  wanted to confirm  that the  borough would                                                                   
be able  to spend  the CARES Act  funding on emergency  units                                                                   
and health  related  items, but  it would  not help with  the                                                                   
borough's overall  budget. Mayor  Powers responded,  "That is                                                                   
correct."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:09:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  gathered from multiple  testimonies that                                                                   
the  school bond  debt reimbursement  seemed  to reflect  the                                                                   
largest hole in  the budget, and the CARES  Act funding could                                                                   
not be used to  backfill the gap. He garnered  from the chart                                                                   
that  the borough  would receive  $3.8 million  in CARES  Act                                                                   
funding and  the city  would receive  $11.9 million  based on                                                                   
lost tax  revenue. He asked how  much the borough  was losing                                                                   
from the removal  of school bond debt reimbursement.  He also                                                                   
wondered  if much  of  the borough  funding  issues would  be                                                                   
relieved if  the funding for  school bond debt  reimbursement                                                                   
was reinstated.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Powers replied  that the  100 percent  loss of  school                                                                   
bond   debt   reimbursement  previously   approved   by   the                                                                   
legislature  was $5.8  million. He  concurred that  it was  a                                                                   
significant   amount  of  money   that  would  be   impacting                                                                   
residents. He noted  there was an additional  amount of about                                                                   
$300,000 lost  for community assistance that  would otherwise                                                                   
be used for providing services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool commented  that the  City of Kodiak  had                                                                   
access to  $12 million for  COVID related expenses.  He asked                                                                   
if  the situation  would  be  similar for  other  communities                                                                   
that were not  currently experiencing a direct  COVID impact.                                                                   
To his knowledge,  Kodiak only had  a few cases of  COVID. He                                                                   
wondered if municipal  funds could be used  for the hospital.                                                                   
Mayor Powers responded  that he could not speak  on behalf of                                                                   
the city.  However, the borough  was surprised that  the city                                                                   
received a significant  amount of money. He  wondered how the                                                                   
money  would be  used based  on  the response  that had  been                                                                   
necessary  to-date and based  on the  limitations on  the use                                                                   
of the funding.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Merrick  thought  Mr.  Powers  had  mentioned                                                                   
that the  distribution  of the CARES  Act funding  throughout                                                                   
the  state was  inequitable  and  that Kodiak  received  less                                                                   
than  it should  have. She  wondered how  much in  additional                                                                   
funding the borough  would need if it was used  in the manner                                                                   
in which  it was currently  designated. Mayor  Powers thought                                                                   
there  was room  in  the CARES  Act  funding  to offset  some                                                                   
direct losses  in the  community. If  the federal  government                                                                   
agreed  that  such a  path  was  appropriate, the  amount  of                                                                   
$3 million to $4 million would be suitable for the borough.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:13:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JASON  BOCKENSTEDT,  CHIEF  OF   STAFF  TO  ETHAN  BERKOWITZ,                                                                   
MUNICIPALITY  OF   ANCHORAGE,  ANCHORAGE,  read   a  prepared                                                                   
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     As you  can imagine, we did  not foresee or  account for                                                                   
     a  global pandemic  when the  Municipality of  Anchorage                                                                   
     developed  our 2020  budget.  The  ramifications of  the                                                                   
     COVID-19  pandemic  are   immediate,  far-reaching,  and                                                                   
     will  continue  to  impact   residents  and  communities                                                                   
     across  our great  state  for many  months  to come.  My                                                                   
     comments  today   will  explain  Anchorage's   steps  to                                                                   
     flatten  the  curve  including  unexpected  expenses  to                                                                   
     fight the virus  and how we encourage  CARES Act funding                                                                   
     to  be allocated  to  local governments.  In  Anchorage,                                                                   
     we've experienced  the majority of the  confirmed COVID-                                                                   
     19 cases  in our state.  As the largest  municipality in                                                                   
     land  area and population,  that's  to be expected.  The                                                                   
     decision  to   act  early  to  hunker  down   and  close                                                                   
     businesses  and   restrict  gatherings  was   not  easy,                                                                   
     especially because  small businesses are the  drivers of                                                                   
     our  economy, but  it helped  us flatten  the curve  and                                                                   
     saved many lives.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This is an  unprecedented health crisis,  and protecting                                                                   
     our residents  is the  most important  thing we  can do.                                                                   
     All  told,  to-date we  have  spent or  encumbered  more                                                                   
     than $10 million  in municipal funds. How  have we spent                                                                   
     these  funds? Here  are just  a few  ways. We  activated                                                                   
     our  emergency  operations  center,  reassigning  almost                                                                   
     100  municipal personnel  and contractors  to perform  a                                                                   
     wide range  of critical  needs including collecting  and                                                                   
     distributing  PPE and  coordinating  with the  hospitals                                                                   
     to track  PPE burn rates  across the municipality  while                                                                   
     also  working  with DHSS  to  fight  the spread  of  the                                                                   
     virus  by  performing  contact tracing  on  every  known                                                                   
     case  of COVID-19.  We placed  a  significant order  for                                                                   
     powered   air  purifying   respirators  for   our  first                                                                   
     responders,  reserved  hotel  rooms  for  those  needing                                                                   
     quarantine, contracted  additional medical  personnel to                                                                   
     perform  screenings,  created   a  system  to  transport                                                                   
     COVID positive  individuals to medical  appointments and                                                                   
     COVID-suspected   individuals  to  testing   sites,  and                                                                   
     stood  up temporary  mass shelter  space and  quarantine                                                                   
     facilities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,   we  have  postponed   certain  non-life,                                                                   
     safety,  and annual  inspections  for small  businesses,                                                                   
     reduced  building  permit fees  by  25 percent  for  the                                                                   
     remainder of  2020, and postponed our  personal property                                                                   
     and  business  property  tax collection  date.  We  have                                                                   
     completed   all  of  this   and  more  to   prevent  our                                                                   
     hospitals from  becoming overwhelmed and to  protect our                                                                   
     most valuable  residents. We did this knowing  full well                                                                   
     that as  the primary  transportation and healthcare  hub                                                                   
     in  Alaska  losing control  of  the virus  in  Anchorage                                                                   
     could  devastate   the  entire   state.  We   knew  that                                                                   
     hunkering  down would hurt  the economy and  our budget,                                                                   
     but  it was the  right thing  to do.  And we counted  on                                                                   
     the federal government to have our back.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     When  congress passed  the  CARES Act  to support  local                                                                   
     governments  like  the  Municipality  of  Anchorage  for                                                                   
     doing  the right thing  we were  encouraged. Now  we are                                                                   
     concerned   that   the    law   is   being   interpreted                                                                   
     incorrectly  and narrowly  and in a  way that  will make                                                                   
     the relief  less effective. We  are here to  discuss how                                                                   
     federal  CARES Act  funds should  be allocated to  local                                                                   
     governments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Clearly,  we all have  a major  stake in this  decision.                                                                   
     We need  these funds to  provide needed  flexibility for                                                                   
     all  of  our unknown  issues  yet  to come.  Instead  of                                                                   
     getting  into  the  political  fray  and  jurisdictional                                                                   
     issues,  I  would  simply   encourage  anyone  concerned                                                                   
     about CARES  Act interpretation  to consult  the letters                                                                   
     sent by  both sides of the  aisle in the U.S.  Senate to                                                                   
     Secretary Mnuchin  about how funding was  intended to be                                                                   
     used.  Excerpts  particularly poignant  from  democratic                                                                   
     and republican  letters from earlier this  month include                                                                   
     these  statements clarifying  congress' intent:  "In the                                                                   
     midst  of  an  economic  collapse,  the  intent  of  the                                                                   
     entire CARES  Act is to provide flexible help  to a wide                                                                   
     range  of Americans.  To  prevent  the flexible  use  of                                                                   
     these  relief   funds  is  a  choice  that   is  neither                                                                   
     required nor intended by law."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Also, in a  letter led by Alaska senators  Murkowski and                                                                   
     Sullivan,  and  signed by  almost  20 members  of  their                                                                   
     caucus,  their  letter  states,   "The  purpose  of  the                                                                   
     Coronavirus  relief fund  is to  provide flexibility  to                                                                   
     state  and  local  governments   including  those  under                                                                   
     500,000   to  fill   the  gaps   in  economic   response                                                                   
     inevitably   left  by   the  one-size-fits-all   federal                                                                   
     programs." From  these statements it's  abundantly clear                                                                   
     the intent  of congress is  to allow for these  funds to                                                                   
     replace   lost   revenue   by   local   government.   As                                                                   
     legislators, each  of you know how important  it is that                                                                   
     your  intent   be  honored  by  the   executive  branch.                                                                   
     Congressional  intent  is   clear  here.  This  was  not                                                                   
     partisan  legislation.  A  $2.2 trillion  stimulus  bill                                                                   
     passed unanimously.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Furthermore,  this intent  is strengthened because  many                                                                   
     of  the direct  expenditure  incurred as  we respond  to                                                                   
     this  pandemic are  already  eligible for  reimbursement                                                                   
     by  the  Federal  Emergency  Management  Agency  (FEMA).                                                                   
     CARES   Act  funding  received   by  local   governments                                                                   
     supplements funds  that local governments  would receive                                                                   
     as FEMA reimbursements.  It is incorrect  to assume that                                                                   
     the CARES  Act must be  the source of all  reimbursement                                                                   
     for the COVID response.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The most  significant effect  COVID-19 will have  on our                                                                   
     budgets  is through lost  revenues. Not  only is  one of                                                                   
     our  major industries,  tourism,  particularly hard  hit                                                                   
     by cruise  ship cancellations  throughout the  state, we                                                                   
     will  also  have  fewer  landings  at  the  Ted  Stevens                                                                   
     Anchorage  International   Airport,  reduced  group  and                                                                   
     independent  travelers  coming   to  our  area,  and  we                                                                   
     already  know our hoteliers  will experience  a dramatic                                                                   
     drop in guests.  This means a major loss in  bed tax and                                                                   
     rental vehicle  tax revenues.  CARES Act funding  to the                                                                   
     municipalities  will  be  used  immediately  so  we  can                                                                   
     protect  tax payers  and recover  the lost revenue  from                                                                   
     these  unpredictable downturns  in  expected revenue  we                                                                   
     contemplated last year when planning our 2020 budget.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The purpose  of the  CARES Act is  to infuse  money into                                                                   
     our  economy  while  helping   local  governments  cover                                                                   
     costs  related to  the  COVID-19  pandemic. I  encourage                                                                   
     the  legislature and  the governor  to contemplate  this                                                                   
     as  you  work   to  allocate  this  major   infusion  of                                                                   
     recovery  funds   from  the  federal   government.  Each                                                                   
     community  in our  state has  important needs.  However,                                                                   
     it  can't be  ignored  that  Anchorage has  the  largest                                                                   
     population  center with 3  major hospitals,  the largest                                                                   
     airport, and  the Port of Alaska that  provides goods to                                                                   
     over  three-quarters of  the  state bares  the brunt  of                                                                   
     the responsibility to help keep residents safe.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     As you  work with  the governor  to determine  where the                                                                   
     funds  should   be  allocated,  the  residents   of  the                                                                   
     Municipality  of  Anchorage and  I  hope  you will  keep                                                                   
     this in mind  and help us build a stronger,  more robust                                                                   
     future, with  adequate and appropriate CARES  Act funds.                                                                   
     I  would be  remiss  if I  didn't  acknowledge the  many                                                                   
     people  who  helped  get  us  here  today.  To  me  it's                                                                   
     actually  the silver  lining  of  this entire  situation                                                                   
     and  a  meaningful  reminder  of  what it  means  to  be                                                                   
     Alaskan.  We  take care  of  one  another. I'd  like  to                                                                   
     close by saying  I've been privileged to  witness people                                                                   
     coming together to benefit the greater good.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     On behalf  of the mayor of  Anchorage I'd like  to thank                                                                   
     the   first  responders   and   medical  personnel   who                                                                   
     continue  to protect our  communities, the  residents of                                                                   
     the   municipality  who   hunkered   down  despite   the                                                                   
     hardships,  the   business  owners  who   adapted  their                                                                   
     business  models  on the  fly  to keep  serving  patrons                                                                   
     during   these   unprecedented  times,   the   municipal                                                                   
     employees  who  continue  to  go  above  and  beyond  to                                                                   
     provide   critical   services   residents   depend   on,                                                                   
     Senators Murkowski  and Sullivan and  Congressman Young,                                                                   
     the  Alaska Legislature,  the governor,  and all  of the                                                                   
     people across  the state who  assist those in  need even                                                                   
     though  it  may  go unnoticed.  Thank  you.  Thank  you.                                                                   
     Thank you.  You are what  sets our state apart  from all                                                                   
     the  others. You  are why  we flattened  the curve.  You                                                                   
     are the  reason why  Alaska is still  the best  place to                                                                   
     call home.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bockenstedt made himself available for questions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:22:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon noted  the formula  for allocating  the                                                                   
CARES Act  funds. He  asked if  the he  had an opinion  about                                                                   
the  allocation.  Mr. Bockenstedt  responded  that  Anchorage                                                                   
had significant expenses.  If part of the intent  was for the                                                                   
city  to  cover school  bond  debt  reimbursement,  municipal                                                                   
assistance,  and  other expenses,  the  allocation  Anchorage                                                                   
was  scheduled to  receive  through the  governor's  proposal                                                                   
would not  be enough. The  city would  still need to  rely on                                                                   
the federal  government to  continue to  step in with  future                                                                   
funding to help cover additional expenses.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked  how  much  the  city  expected  to                                                                   
receive  from  FEMA.  Mr.  Bockenstedt   explained  that  his                                                                   
understanding of  the FEMA reimbursement and  the process the                                                                   
city  would go  through  was that  FEMA  would reimburse  the                                                                   
city for  close to  75 percent  of some of  the costs  it had                                                                   
incurred.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked  if expenses  included  the  city's                                                                   
emergency  operations.  Mr.  Bockenstedt   responded  in  the                                                                   
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  asked if  there were  any other  costs the                                                                   
FEMA  funding would  cover.  Mr. Bockenstedt  explained  that                                                                   
one of  the things the  city did when  the City  of Anchorage                                                                   
declared  an emergency  was  to create  different  accounting                                                                   
codes  for  all  of  the  expenses   it  incurred  and  would                                                                   
continue to  incur. He  indicated the  city would  attempt to                                                                   
get  reimbursed for  all  of the  expenses  it had  incurred.                                                                   
Anchorage would have  to have a conversation  with FEMA about                                                                   
what  qualified   for  reimbursement   and  a   corresponding                                                                   
amount.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  mentioned  $2.8 [million]  in  the  state                                                                   
budget. She  clarified that FEMA  would reimburse  75 percent                                                                   
first, followed  by CARES Act  funding. She asked if  she was                                                                   
correct.  Mr.   Bockenstedt  responded  that   Representative                                                                   
Johnston  was correct.  He noted  that the  $2.8 million  she                                                                   
had  referenced  was  part  of  the  funding  vetoed  by  the                                                                   
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:26:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  thought  Mr.  Bockenstedt  sounded                                                                   
more  bullish  than other  officials  and  that it  might  be                                                                   
better to  beg forgiveness than  ask permission.  He wondered                                                                   
if he  thought Secretary Mnuchin  had not read  or understood                                                                   
the  senate's intent  and  that the  city  should proceed  to                                                                   
aggressively use the  funds in the hopes they  would not have                                                                   
to  be   restored.  He   asked  if   he  was  accurate.   Mr.                                                                   
Bockenstedt responded  that it was  exactly how the  city saw                                                                   
it. He explained  that while the term "lost  revenue" did not                                                                   
specifically   fall  under   the   CARES   Act,  the   city's                                                                   
interpretation assumed  that lost or delayed revenues  were a                                                                   
direct  cost  created  by  the virus,  and  they  were  never                                                                   
accounted for in any budget.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool thought it  would be the  responsibility                                                                   
of the  state to  reimburse the  federal government  if CARES                                                                   
Act  monies  were  spent  inappropriately.   He  queried  Mr.                                                                   
Bockenstedt's understanding.  Mr. Bockenstedt  concurred with                                                                   
Representative  Wool's  understanding.   He  added  that  the                                                                   
city's view  was that the  guidance was incorrect.  The clear                                                                   
intent,  based on  all of  the letters  he had  seen sent  to                                                                   
Secretary  Mnuchin from  members of congress,  was that  lost                                                                   
revenues should  be an allowable  expense which was  what the                                                                   
City of Anchorage was banking on.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  hoped  that  lost  revenue  replacement                                                                   
would  be allowed.  He was  aware  of congress  contemplating                                                                   
another bill that  would specifically address  lost revenues.                                                                   
He  concluded  that  because  they  were  addressing  a  bill                                                                   
specific  to lost  revenue  implied that  the  intent of  the                                                                   
CARES  Act  funding  was  in   question.  He  suggested  that                                                                   
Anchorage   had   some   legitimate   COVID-19   expenses                                                                       
potentially  more than  other  communities.  He believed  the                                                                   
city would  be receiving a large  amount of funding  from the                                                                   
federal government  according to  the formula. He  also asked                                                                   
for the  amount of school  bond debt reimbursement  Anchorage                                                                   
was lacking.  Mr. Bockenstedt  thought the state's  share was                                                                   
about $42 million.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  asked  if the  amount  was  Anchorage's                                                                   
share  or the  full budget  item.  Mr. Bockenstedt  clarified                                                                   
that $42  million was the full  portion of the  state's share                                                                   
of school bond debt reimbursement for Anchorage.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:31:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
VERNE  HALTER,   MAYOR,  MAT-SU  BOROUGH,   WASILLA,  thanked                                                                   
members for  allowing him to testify.  He hoped that  some of                                                                   
things brought  up by  the City  of Anchorage were  accurate.                                                                   
He  would be  researching  some of  the  information from  an                                                                   
audit,  finance,  and  legal  stand  point.  He  thanked  the                                                                   
governor and  others for  the way in  which they  had handled                                                                   
the  pandemic.  He appreciated  what  had  been done  by  the                                                                   
State of  Alaska. The Mat-Su Borough's  case count as  of the                                                                   
previous day  was 21. The borough  had been able to  keep the                                                                   
numbers down.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter  stated that  budgeting  was  what it  was  all                                                                   
about for  the Mat-Su Borough.  The borough's dilemma  had to                                                                   
do   with  the   governor's   veto   of  school   bond   debt                                                                   
reimbursement  and community  assistance  totaling about  $18                                                                   
million for  the Mat-Su. The borough  would have to  impose a                                                                   
2  mil increase  on  property  taxes  to compensate  for  the                                                                   
loss. It did  not want to have  to tax its citizens  based on                                                                   
the  impact  of the  pandemic.  He  opined that  many  people                                                                   
would  struggle with  paying additional  property taxes.  The                                                                   
economic  devastation   to  the  oil  industry   and  tourism                                                                   
affected  the  borough  significantly.   He  also  noted  the                                                                   
devastation  to  small  family businesses.  The  borough  was                                                                   
beginning  a  survey  about how  small  businesses  had  been                                                                   
impacted  by  the pandemic.  The  borough  had to  close  its                                                                   
budget around  June 1. He  reiterated the huge  imposition on                                                                   
property owners  if the borough  had to raise  property taxes                                                                   
by 2  mils. If  the borough  were to  keep the  mil rate  the                                                                   
same, it  would have  to make  substantial reductions.  Those                                                                   
reductions  would   lead  to  eliminating  a   large  capital                                                                   
project program.  The loss  of $18  million in state  revenue                                                                   
could virtually eliminate the program for FY 21.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter  continued  that  in  addition  to  eliminating                                                                   
another $5.1 million  in related staffing support  items, the                                                                   
reduction  could eliminate  66 capital  projects for  a total                                                                   
of $12.9  million. He  explained that 25  of the  66 projects                                                                   
were  construction   projects  for   $6.5  million,   and  34                                                                   
projects  were non-construction  projects  for $6.4  million.                                                                   
The total  loss to businesses  and the negative  impact would                                                                   
affect   245    local   contractors,   subcontractors,    and                                                                   
suppliers.  If the borough  did not  receive the school  bond                                                                   
debt  reimbursement  money and  did  not raise  its  property                                                                   
taxes,  it   would  have   to  move   in  the  direction   of                                                                   
significant capital  budget cuts.  He noted that  the borough                                                                   
was  at 10.338  mils approaching  its  cap of  10.5 mils.  He                                                                   
argued  that it was  not the  time to  eliminate its  capital                                                                   
budget.  He  thought it  was  the  perfect  time to  work  on                                                                   
capital projects.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter  welcomed  Anchorage's  interpretation  of  the                                                                   
CARES Act.  He thanked the  federal government and  the state                                                                   
for  the  CARES  Act money.  He  indicated  that  the  Mat-Su                                                                   
Borough, the  City of  Palmer, the City  of Wasilla,  and the                                                                   
City  of Houston  were  allocated  certain monies  under  the                                                                   
CARES Act.  He was  concerned about  the restrictions  on the                                                                   
use of the funding.  He suggested that whether  the CARES Act                                                                   
money  could be  used  to  make up  for  the revenue  in  the                                                                   
borough  budget was debatable.  He urged  the legislature  to                                                                   
re-fund school  bond reimbursement  and community  assistance                                                                   
monies as  soon as possible  to allow for accurate  budgeting                                                                   
by municipalities with a budget deadline of June 1.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Halter mentioned  the borough experiencing  a streak of                                                                   
disasters   including  the   Sockeye  Fire   in  2015   which                                                                   
destroyed  55 or 60  homes, a  cyber-attack on the  borough's                                                                   
information  technology  system,   and  the  earthquake.  The                                                                   
borough still  had schools  that had  not been repaired  from                                                                   
the earthquake.  He noted the  McKinley Fire from  2019 which                                                                   
burned 50 or  60 homes followed by the Willow-Creek  Flood at                                                                   
Christmastime  2019.   The  pandemic  was  the   most  recent                                                                   
disaster experienced  by the borough.  He emphasized  that it                                                                   
had been  stretched thin and had  absorbed many of  the costs                                                                   
in its  budget. However,  the Mat-Su Borough  was at  a point                                                                   
that it  could no longer  take on extra  costs. He  was aware                                                                   
that other  communities  were experiencing  many of the  same                                                                   
hardships  associated with  the pandemic.  He suggested  that                                                                   
in the  short-term  the State  of Alaska needed  to fund  the                                                                   
school bonds  which might allow  the borough to meet  some of                                                                   
the challenges it faced.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter supported  the second-tier  uses  of the  CARES                                                                   
Act  funding to  help  businesses.  The borough  had  several                                                                   
businesses that  had been negatively  impacted and  might not                                                                   
survive  into the  future.  He  welcomed the  opportunity  to                                                                   
help  small businesses  with some  sort of  program. He  also                                                                   
welcomed help  from the  State of Alaska  to meet  the school                                                                   
bond debt  of about $18 million    the borough's  portion was                                                                   
just  over $16  million. He  recalled  that at  the time  the                                                                   
funding was  vetoed the  governor stated  the money  would be                                                                   
backfilled. He  hoped the governor  thought similarly  to the                                                                   
City of  Anchorage.  He would  be directing  his staff  to do                                                                   
some research  on the  legislative history  of the  CARES Act                                                                   
and  supported  more  flexibility  to any  future  CARES  Act                                                                   
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter  spoke   of  the  borough's  bed   tax  revenue                                                                   
potentially declining  60 percent to 70 percent.  At the same                                                                   
time, if the borough  were to have to absorb  the school bond                                                                   
debt  and  community  assistance   debt,  it  would  have  to                                                                   
strengthen   its  emergency   services   and  its   ambulance                                                                   
service. The  growth of  the Mat-Su  Borough was the  highest                                                                   
in the state.  The borough's population was  growing by about                                                                   
1000  people per  year.  The  borough helped  with  ambulance                                                                   
services  and getting  more  personnel  during the  pandemic.                                                                   
The borough  would be  thoroughly restricted from  continuing                                                                   
its help  with emergency  services  if it  had to absorb  the                                                                   
school bond debt and community assistance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Halter reported  being a believer in  jobs. The capital                                                                   
budget  was needed  to get  jobs out  on the  street. If  the                                                                   
borough could  not use  the CARES Act  money to  backfill its                                                                   
revenue,  then  the State  of  Alaska  should refund  it.  He                                                                   
hoped  the governor  would not  veto  it. He  was unsure  how                                                                   
long  the  pandemic  would last,  but  the  Mat-Su  Borough's                                                                   
FY 21 budget was  critical and capital projects  would extend                                                                   
into the  future 4  or 5  years. He  thanked the members  and                                                                   
fellow  boroughs  for  participating.   He  hoped  the  CARES                                                                   
allocation  would  reflect  respect.  He  was  available  for                                                                   
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:40:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  if the  borough's  revenue  cap                                                                   
allowed for expansion to cover the school bonds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter responded  that  the tax  code ordinance  would                                                                   
allow the  borough to  go beyond the  10.5 mil cap.  However,                                                                   
he anticipated  a decline  in property  values in  the Mat-Su                                                                   
Borough.  He  also  assumed  there  would  be  a  decline  in                                                                   
housing starts.  The borough was  hesitant to  raise property                                                                   
tax considering  the struggle  for many  people. He  believed                                                                   
if the state  were to fund  school bond debt, there  would be                                                                   
a good argument  for the borough to reduce the  mil rate by 1                                                                   
mil to help people that were struggling.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked the  mayor if  he had  an opinion                                                                   
regarding  the funding  distribution  formula  for the  CARES                                                                   
Act  monies. Mayor  Halter was  pleased  with the  allocation                                                                   
the governor  proposed for the  Mat-Su Borough. He  would not                                                                   
compare  the   borough's  funding  with  anyone   else's.  He                                                                   
thought that if  the borough used the money  with the current                                                                   
restrictions,  it could  put out  programs  to businesses  to                                                                   
assist  them. The  borough would  like to  add EMS  personnel                                                                   
and purchase  at least  4 new ambulances.  He also  noted the                                                                   
importance  of  propping  up   the  Mat-Su's  Convention  and                                                                   
Visitor's  Bureau (CVB)  because  of the  current decline  in                                                                   
revenue. He  explained that  the borough  and the  CVB shared                                                                   
the bed  tax funding.  He also  reiterated the importance  of                                                                   
supporting the borough's capital projects.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:43:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston asked  if the  Mat-Su  Borough had  Health                                                                   
authority   or   public  safety   authority.   Mayor   Halter                                                                   
responded  that the  borough did  not,  as it  was a  second-                                                                   
class  city.  The  borough  did not  have  police  powers  or                                                                   
health powers.  However, the borough  had EMS. He  noted that                                                                   
the Mat-Su  Fire department had  fought 2 fires in  the prior                                                                   
2 days.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  noted  the   fires  could  be  seen  from                                                                   
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Halter commented  that, unfortunately,  people  in the                                                                   
borough  were almost  specialists  in disaster.  The  borough                                                                   
was growing  with rural areas  and high concentration  areas.                                                                   
Roads,  fire, EMS,  and ambulances  were extremely  important                                                                   
to the borough and needed to be improved.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  asked if there  was an emergency  response                                                                   
center in the  borough. Mayor Halter responded  affirmatively                                                                   
that  it was  through the  City  of Wasilla.  There was  some                                                                   
talk about  changes being made.  He deferred to  the director                                                                   
of EMS.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  wondered if  he thought CARES  Act funding                                                                   
could  be spent  on the  emergency response  center, EMS,  or                                                                   
small  businesses in  its communities.  Mayor Halter  thought                                                                   
all would  apply. He  restated that he  would have  his staff                                                                   
look into the  matter. It was up to interpretation  but would                                                                   
relieve budgeting at a critical time.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:46:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  was referring to a document  in front of                                                                   
him  regarding  a  list of  legitimate  expenses.  It  listed                                                                   
emergency  medical  response   expenses  including  emergency                                                                   
medical   transportation.   However,   he   was   under   the                                                                   
impression it had  to be related to COVID-19.  He wondered if                                                                   
the expense  had to  be validated as  a COVID-19  expense. He                                                                   
asked  if Mayor  Halter's interpretation  was similar.  Mayor                                                                   
Halter responded  that it seemed  like it was. He  thought an                                                                   
argument could be  made for using the funding  for ambulances                                                                   
and  increased staff  due to  COVID-19 rather  than using  it                                                                   
for  school  bond debt.  School  bond  debt was  causing  the                                                                   
borough  the most  budgeting stress.  He  continued to  argue                                                                   
that municipalities  should be able to use  CARES Act funding                                                                   
for lost  revenue. The state  should at least  re-fund school                                                                   
bond  debt reimbursement  and  community  assistance to  help                                                                   
municipalities meet current challenges.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  appreciated  the  mayor's  message.  He                                                                   
understood that  additional information  was coming  from the                                                                   
federal government.  He queried  the amount of  the borough's                                                                   
sales tax.  Mayor Halter responded  that the City  of Palmer,                                                                   
the  City of  Wasilla,  and the  City of  Houston  all had  a                                                                   
sales   tax.  The   three   cities  also   received   sizable                                                                   
allocations of  CARES Act funds.  The Mat-Su Borough  did not                                                                   
have a sales  tax. However, it was estimated  that 75 percent                                                                   
of  revenue produced  by  sales tax  within  the cities  came                                                                   
from residents outside  of the cities   borough  residents. A                                                                   
borough  sales tax  had been on  the ballot  twice and  voted                                                                   
down twice.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:50:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRYCE WARD, MAYOR,  FAIRBANKS NORTHSTAR BOROUGH,  NORTH POLE,                                                                   
commented that as  the legislature considered  any changes to                                                                   
the distribution  formula, he  thought it  needed to  be fair                                                                   
and   equitable.  There   were  some   challenges  with   the                                                                   
methodology that  was used. There  was also a  question about                                                                   
the  fairness  of  the  allocation   of  resources  based  on                                                                   
residential  population or  economic impact.  He thought  the                                                                   
legislature   should   be   committed   as  well   as   local                                                                   
communities  to   using  the  funds  to  provide   relief  in                                                                   
whichever way  possible. The state  should not be  looking at                                                                   
sending  any  money  back  to   the  federal  government.  He                                                                   
advocated  a timely distribution  to communities  even  if it                                                                   
meant that the  distribution could not be  changed. The money                                                                   
needed to  be put to good  work for impacts  communities were                                                                   
facing.  He   also  thought  the  legislature   should  begin                                                                   
conversations with  the governor regarding  unexpended funds.                                                                   
If  communities   were  unable  to  allocate   the  available                                                                   
funding,  the redistribution  of funds  to other  communities                                                                   
needed to be decided on.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mayor Ward  reported that  the Fairbanks  North Star  Borough                                                                   
conducted  a  review of  the  CARES  Act and  concluded  that                                                                   
funding  could only  be  used  for non-budgeted  expenses  in                                                                   
response to  the public health  emergency. He  emphasized the                                                                   
words response  and expense.  He thought  it was very  clear,                                                                   
based on  the U.S.  Treasury's guidance,  that the  Cares Act                                                                   
funding  could  not  be  used to  supplant  or  replace  lost                                                                   
revenues  that   communities  might   be  facing.   The  U.S.                                                                   
Treasury  provided  guidance  on 5  categories  of  allowable                                                                   
expenses.  The first category  was medical  related costs  in                                                                   
relation  to the  response to  the  public health  emergency.                                                                   
The second  category was  public health  response. The  third                                                                   
category   was  payroll   mitigation   for  public   services                                                                   
employees  including police  and fire  related to the  public                                                                   
health  emergency. The  fourth category  was compliance  with                                                                   
public  health  mandates  and  measures as  provided  by  the                                                                   
local community  or the state government. The  fifth category                                                                   
was economic  support.  The U.S. treasury  had provided  many                                                                   
examples of  how the funding could  be used. He  thought with                                                                   
additional   guidance  from   the  state,   plans  could   be                                                                   
developed for using the funds appropriately.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Ward  continued that  it  was  important that  as  the                                                                   
legislature  considered how the  funds would  be used  by the                                                                   
municipalities  and local  governments,  it recognized  there                                                                   
were 2  different aspects to  consider. The first  aspect was                                                                   
true  municipal  relief  which   was  the  intention  of  the                                                                   
governor  early  on in  his  proposal.  However, he  did  not                                                                   
believe the  funds could  be used in  the manner  proposed by                                                                   
the  governor. The  use of  the funds  had to  be related  to                                                                   
expenses incurred  due to the  public health  emergency. Some                                                                   
of  the expenses  the  borough  thought would  be  applicable                                                                   
were any costs  (above and beyond budgeted  expenses) related                                                                   
to  manning   the  emergency   operations  center,   personal                                                                   
protective   equipment    (PPE)   for   emergency    response                                                                   
contractors  and technicians,  and  communication  technology                                                                   
and  communication  measures used  for  relaying  information                                                                   
about COVID response  to the public. The funding  also helped                                                                   
with  a  unified  command  structure   as  part  of  response                                                                   
efforts  which  the  Fairbanks   North  Star  Borough  was  a                                                                   
partner. He noted  that as the borough looked  at the overall                                                                   
funding allocation,  it was  estimated that  5 percent  to 10                                                                   
percent of the  amount allocated to the Fairbanks  North Star                                                                   
Borough  would be  used to  cover expenses  related to  COVID                                                                   
impacts over the next year.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor  Ward continued  that the  other aspect  the CARES  Act                                                                   
funding could  be used for  was local relief.  He highlighted                                                                   
item 5  in the  U.S. Treasury  guidelines which was  economic                                                                   
relief and economic  support. He thought the  majority of the                                                                   
funding  could   be  used  in   a  positive  way   for  local                                                                   
communities.  He   thought  it  would  involve   standing  up                                                                   
programs such  as the Paycheck  Protection Program  (PPP) and                                                                   
other type  of relief measures  that fell under  the economic                                                                   
support category  from the  U.S. Treasury. In  communications                                                                   
with  Alaska's congressional  delegation, it  was clear  that                                                                   
the intent of the  CARES Act funding was to  be more flexible                                                                   
than the actual  guidance from the U.S.  Treasury Department.                                                                   
However, in  conversations with  the delegation,  the chances                                                                   
of  changing CARES  Act  funding requirements  seemed  highly                                                                   
unlikely. He  thought state  and local municipalities  should                                                                   
prepare  to use the  treasury guidance  and develop  programs                                                                   
that  fell within  that guidance.  He  added that  timeliness                                                                   
was   critically   important.   The   borough   was   working                                                                   
diligently  with its 2  cities to  develop programs  in which                                                                   
the  borough could  first  cover the  costs  incurred due  to                                                                   
COVID relief  and to decide how  to best leverage  dollars to                                                                   
provide  local   economic  relief.   He  was  available   for                                                                   
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:56:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  thought   that  neither  the  City  of                                                                   
Fairbanks  nor the Fairbanks  North Star  Borough had  health                                                                   
powers.  Mayor  Ward  had mentioned  that  medically  related                                                                   
expenses  were  eligible  expenses   in  the  CARES  Act.  He                                                                   
wondered  if CARES  Act monies  could be used  to assist  the                                                                   
Fairbanks  Memorial  Hospital.  Mayor  Ward  thought  it  was                                                                   
possible for  the borough to  develop programs  that included                                                                   
a measure  to  provide relief  to hospitals,  clinics, or  to                                                                   
other medical support related to the COVID response.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon   asked   for  input   regarding   the                                                                   
allocation  for  the  City of  Fairbanks  and  the  Fairbanks                                                                   
North  Star Borough.  Mayor  Ward responded  that  on a  per-                                                                   
capita  basis and  using the  funding  formula for  community                                                                   
revenue  sharing,   it  was  apparent  that   the  allocation                                                                   
provided   to   the   Fairbanks  North   Star   Borough   and                                                                   
surrounding  communities was  substantially  less than  would                                                                   
have  been provided  under a  different  formula. Looking  at                                                                   
the  formula  the governor  considered,  there  were  certain                                                                   
factors  that  might  not  be  true  indicators  of  economic                                                                   
impact or  relief. The  borough definitely  stood to  benefit                                                                   
from a change to the formula based on population.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  asked  if   he  was   looking  at                                                                   
expenses that  were chargeable  to the Cares  Act and  to the                                                                   
benefit   of  the   borough.  He   provided  a   hypothetical                                                                   
scenario. He asked  if the borough was conducting  a detailed                                                                   
look at  allowable expenses.  Mayor Ward  responded that  the                                                                   
borough was  taking a  detailed look at  all of  the expenses                                                                   
that could  potentially be  allocated back  to the  CARES Act                                                                   
funding. The  challenge the  borough ran  into was  that many                                                                   
of  the  expenses  related to  its  employees  were  budgeted                                                                   
expenses.  The borough would  have to  incur costs  above its                                                                   
budgeted  numbers in  order  to take  full  advantage of  the                                                                   
funding.  He reconfirmed  that  the  borough was  looking  at                                                                   
every available option.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:00:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative     Wool     appreciated      Mayor     Ward's                                                                   
interpretation.  He asked how much  the borough had  spent on                                                                   
the COVID  response to-date. Mayor  Ward expected to  end the                                                                   
year at about $500,000.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  commented that Fairbanks was  looking at                                                                   
the Carlton Center  as a potential overflow  location for the                                                                   
hospital. He  wondered if the  hospital incurred  the expense                                                                   
of setting  it up.  It seemed  like a  public health  expense                                                                   
that would  also be  a valid COVID  expense back-filled  with                                                                   
CARES  Act funding.  Mayor Ward  responded  that the  Carlson                                                                   
Center alternative  care site for the hospital  was resourced                                                                   
through  a state  request. The  borough was  given a  mandate                                                                   
from  the governor  which meant  that the  cost incurred  for                                                                   
the  facility  was  being  paid  for  through  the  Emergency                                                                   
Operations Center (EOC).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:02:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool referred  to  section 5  of the  federal                                                                   
guidelines which  talked about economic support  besides lost                                                                   
revenue and businesses  that had been interrupted  because of                                                                   
required  closures.   He  wondered  if  the   hospital  would                                                                   
qualify  because   of  being  privately  owned.   Mayor  Ward                                                                   
thought the  borough would  be able  to include the  hospital                                                                   
as  a small  business potentially  eligible for  some of  the                                                                   
funding costs.  The key would  be expenses incurred.  Loss of                                                                   
revenue  was not  an expense.  However,  he thought  expenses                                                                   
related   to   additional  PPE,   additional   staffing,   or                                                                   
additional care  measures required by public  health guidance                                                                   
would be  eligible. Representative  Wool read again  from the                                                                   
federal guidelines. He thanked the mayor for his testimony.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnston   asked   the  mayor   if   the   borough                                                                   
anticipated receiving  any FEMA monies. Mayor  Ward responded                                                                   
that he  was not aware  of any  specific FEMA funding  coming                                                                   
to the Borough.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  asked Mayor Ward  to restate who  would be                                                                   
carrying  the  cost  for  the   Carlson  Center.  Mayor  Ward                                                                   
responded  that using the  Carlson Center  as an  alternative                                                                   
care site  was a mandate by  the governor and was  being paid                                                                   
for through the state's EOC.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:06:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GREGG  BRELSFORD,  MANAGER,  BRISTOL   BAY  BOROUGH,  NAKNEK,                                                                   
indicated  the  chairman  of the  assembly  and  the  borough                                                                   
mayor  were not  available,  as  they were  on  a radio  show                                                                   
answering community questions about COVID.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Brelsford   thanked  Co-Chair   Foster   and   Co-Chair                                                                   
Johnston. He  also thanked  the governor, Commissioner  Crum,                                                                   
and  Dr.  Zink for  the  time  they  spent working  with  the                                                                   
borough regarding  COVID issues. The Bristol  Bay Borough was                                                                   
the first  borough established  in Alaska.  It was  formed in                                                                   
1962  and  encompassed  3  unincorporated  cities  -  Naknek,                                                                   
South  Naknek, and  King Salmon.  It also  included 3  Alaska                                                                   
Native  tribes    the  tribal  governments of  South  Naknek,                                                                   
Naknek,  and King  Salmon. The  Bristol Bay  Borough was  the                                                                   
center of the  red salmon [Sockeye] fishing  industry for the                                                                   
world.  In a  normal year,  it had  been about  a $1  billion                                                                   
industry   annually.  Typically,   the   borough  spiked   in                                                                   
population  from  a year-round  population  of  about 850  to                                                                   
about 13,000  to 15,000  for the  summer fishing season.  The                                                                   
surge would be building in about 4 to 6 weeks.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brelsford continued  that processors  brought in  13,000                                                                   
to  15,000 workers  that  they recruited  from  all over  the                                                                   
world. Fishermen  and their  crews also  came to the  borough                                                                   
for the  season. He  reported  that the borough  had a  great                                                                   
deal of  good faith cooperation  in working with  processors,                                                                   
and  fishermen  through  the  Bristol  Bay  Regional  Seafood                                                                   
Development  Association  on jointly  developing  a plan  and                                                                   
strategy  for minimizing  the harm  or risk  of COVID  coming                                                                   
into  the  borough during  the  season.  The group  had  also                                                                   
worked on  a plan  for intervening in  any crisis  that might                                                                   
arise.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brelsford  continued that the  other part of  the borough                                                                   
economy  was tourism.  Katmai  National  Park resided  within                                                                   
the  borough  and  in a  normal  year  attracted  upwards  of                                                                   
40,000 people  to Brooks  Camp for bear  viewing. It  was his                                                                   
understanding  that the park  did not intend  to have  a full                                                                   
season  in  the   coming  summer.  The  park   was  currently                                                                   
planning  to open  July 1,  2020  and expected  approximately                                                                   
10,000  tourists.  The borough  anticipated  traffic  through                                                                   
its  airport  of  15,000 workers  and  fishermen  and  10,000                                                                   
tourists during an intense part of the summer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brelsford  conveyed  the  profound  need  for  the  $2.5                                                                   
million allocation  in Cares  Act funding.  He wanted  to let                                                                   
members  know how  the  borough would  use  the funding.  The                                                                   
borough  did not have  a hospital.  Rather,  it had a  health                                                                   
clinic:  Camai Community  Health Center.  The clinic  did not                                                                   
have hospital  beds. The  Camai Community  Health Center  had                                                                   
been in  operation  for over a  decade and  had been  working                                                                   
with   processors   throughout   the   years.   The   current                                                                   
circumstance  was  very  unique  with  the  prospect  of  the                                                                   
COVID-19. The  borough would use  a portion of the  CARES Act                                                                   
funding for the  clinic to enhance its testing  capability to                                                                   
be  able  to  test  the  people  flooding  into  the  borough                                                                   
starting in the  next 4 to 6 weeks. Funds would  also be used                                                                   
to  stand  up  a quarantine  facility  and  perhaps  a  field                                                                   
hospital.  The funds  would  also be  used  for staffing  for                                                                   
testing and the facility.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brelsford  reported  that  the  borough,  separate  from                                                                   
Camai  Community Health  Center,  had stood  up an  emergency                                                                   
operations  command  center.  It  started  a  mass  messaging                                                                   
system to facilitate  being able to reach out  to everyone in                                                                   
the  borough  at a  moment's  notice.  The borough  was  also                                                                   
looking   at  major   enforcement  issues   to  ensure   that                                                                   
fishermen and  processor employees  complied with all  of the                                                                   
rules and  regulations that were  being designed  to minimize                                                                   
their contact with the community during the fishing season.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brelsford indicated  the borough  would eventually  look                                                                   
at using  a portion  of the funding  for economic  relief and                                                                   
support for businesses  and individuals. The  largest concern                                                                   
for  the borough  was  the  potential  for a  mass  infection                                                                   
event  and  how   it  would  be  handled.   The  borough  was                                                                   
conducting  pre-planning with  the state  in case  of a  mass                                                                   
event  in  which  an  intense   and  rapid  intervention  was                                                                   
necessary.  He   provided  an   overview  of  the   borough's                                                                   
planning.  He  admitted it  was  a  work in  progress.  Other                                                                   
communities in Alaska  were starting to open up  and focus on                                                                   
the  new normal.  The borough  was focused  on preparing  for                                                                   
the coming  fishing season  and the  surge in population.  He                                                                   
reiterated  the  need  for the  $2.5  million  allocation  in                                                                   
CARES Act funding.  He thanked the committee  for hearing his                                                                   
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:14:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   mentioned  shifting   funding  to                                                                   
communities  from some  of those  that could  not use  all of                                                                   
their  funding.  He asked  if  he  was  correct that  if  the                                                                   
fishing  season  was  successful,  salmon would  be  sold  to                                                                   
Pacific nations. Mr. Brelsford responded affirmatively.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  asked   what  the  community  knew                                                                   
about the ability  of those countries to receive  the salmon.                                                                   
Mr. Brelsford did not have an answer.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked if  there would  be universal                                                                   
testing for  the flood  of workers  entering the borough  and                                                                   
wondered who  would be  paying for  the tests. Mr.  Brelsford                                                                   
reported  that the  processers  were planning  to do  initial                                                                   
screening. He  was not sure that  they had the  materials and                                                                   
equipment  to conduct testing.  The Bristol  Bay Borough  was                                                                   
pressing the  processors to  conduct testing. The  processors                                                                   
would be  expected to  cover the  costs of testing.  However,                                                                   
it was possible that the borough would assist.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson thought  social  distancing in  the                                                                   
processing world  was almost impossible.  He wondered  if the                                                                   
borough  had  concerns.  Mr.  Brelsford  responded  that  the                                                                   
borough certainly  had concerns, but wanted to  continue with                                                                   
the fishing season. He did not deny there were concerns.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:17:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked,  if  there was  a barge  facility                                                                   
that  could provide  testing,  whether the  expense would  be                                                                   
legitimate.  Mr. Brelsford  wondered  if Representative  Wool                                                                   
realized  he was addressing  the Bristol  Bay Borough  rather                                                                   
than the Ketchikan Borough.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  addressed the same question  applying it                                                                   
to  the Bristol  Bay Borough.  Mr.  Brelsford responded  that                                                                   
testing   was  one  of   the  highest   priorities   and  was                                                                   
identified in the funding formula.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  thanked  Mr.   Brelsford  for  joining  the                                                                   
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:20:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CYNNA   GUBATAYAO,   FINANCE  DIRECTOR,   KETCHIKAN   GATEWAY                                                                   
BOROUGH,   KETCHIKAN,   thanked   the   committee   for   the                                                                   
opportunity  to   speak  and   share  the  concerns   of  the                                                                   
communities  within the  borough. She  also thanked  Governor                                                                   
Dunleavy, Dr.  Zink, the federal  government, and all  of its                                                                   
agencies for everything  being done to protect  its citizens.                                                                   
She thought that  everyone recognized that the  actions being                                                                   
taken to  flatten the  curve, which  had protected  the state                                                                   
and  the  country,  were  the   very  actions  that  impacted                                                                   
Ketchikan's  local  governments the  most  in  terms of  lost                                                                   
revenue.  She thought  her statement  was  probably true  for                                                                   
Southeast Alaska  in general. She indicated that  things like                                                                   
shutting  down local  businesses,  limiting  travel, the  no-                                                                   
sail orders  for the  cruise industry,  had all impacted  the                                                                   
borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gubatayao  reported that  borough's FY  21 budget  had to                                                                   
be finalized  by the end of the  current day in order  for it                                                                   
to be  introduced to  the assembly  on the following  Monday.                                                                   
She  concurred with  a previous  testifier that  it had  been                                                                   
the most  difficult budget  for her to  prepare. On  March 3,                                                                   
2020 she had  a balanced budget. Approximately  4 weeks later                                                                   
she  was looking  at a  deficit  of $2.4  million in  general                                                                   
funds after cutting  everything she could except  people. She                                                                   
also reduced  capital funding  by about  $1 million.  Most of                                                                   
the  funds  were  underwritten  largely  by  sales  tax.  She                                                                   
reported that  to make  up the difference  she would  have to                                                                   
eliminate roughly  25 percent  of the borough's  general fund                                                                   
budget  and shut  down  major programs  such  as the  transit                                                                   
program  and   the  recreation   department  which   provided                                                                   
daycare  and children's  activities. She  indicated that  her                                                                   
estimates  on  the sales  tax  decline,  100 percent  due  to                                                                   
COVID  pandemic,   were  just  guesstimates   presently.  The                                                                   
decline could be much worse.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gubatayao  continued that  the greatest fiscal  impact of                                                                   
the current  pandemic for the  Ketchikan Gateway  Borough had                                                                   
just started.  The first 2 cruise  ships had not  arrived and                                                                   
a  couple more  ships would  not  be arriving  in the  coming                                                                   
weekend.  The borough  had hesitated  to furlough  employees,                                                                   
as it did  not want to add  to the economic fear  and pain in                                                                   
the  community. One  of the  roles  of government  in such  a                                                                   
time  was to  offer some  measure of  stability. She  thought                                                                   
that the  CARES Act funding was  supposed to be part  of that                                                                   
stability.  Unfortunately, based  on her  reading, the  CARES                                                                   
Act  funding did  not  go far  enough.  She  opined that  the                                                                   
current guidance  from the U.S. Treasury was  too restrictive                                                                   
and prevented her  from using it to replace  lost revenue due                                                                   
to COVID economic impacts.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gubatayao also  had capital projects that  could generate                                                                   
jobs  locally, but  she did  not  see how  she could  proceed                                                                   
with  them  under  the  current  restrictions.  By  the  same                                                                   
token,  there might  be ways  she  could use  the funding  to                                                                   
help  local businesses  and  residents  survive  the loss  of                                                                   
approximately  $200 million  in sales  activity in the  local                                                                   
economy that was  disappearing overnight. She  suggested that                                                                   
opening  up the  restrictions  on the  use of  the CARES  Act                                                                   
funding  and making  it  more widely  useful  was a  critical                                                                   
piece. She thanked the committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:23:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked if  the  borough had  an  emergency                                                                   
response   center.    Ms.   Gubatayao   responded    in   the                                                                   
affirmative.  She reported  that  the borough  was  currently                                                                   
operating  a   virtual  EOC.  Most  borough   employees  were                                                                   
working out of  their homes. The emergency  operations center                                                                   
was  staffed   with  members   from  the  Ketchikan   Gateway                                                                   
Borough,  the  City  of  Ketchikan, the  City  of  Saxman,  a                                                                   
couple  of   local  private  businesses  including   a  local                                                                   
clinic,  and some  support from  Public Health  and the  U.S.                                                                   
Coast Guard.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston asked  if the  borough  had public  health                                                                   
authority   or  public   safety   authority.  Ms.   Gubatayao                                                                   
responded  that the  borough did  not with  the exception  of                                                                   
fire  and EMS  in a  couple of  service areas.  The city  had                                                                   
public health authority.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  suggested the  borough was limited  as far                                                                   
as COVID  related expenses were  concerned under  the current                                                                   
U.S.  Treasury guidelines.  Ms.  Gubatayao  responded in  the                                                                   
affirmative  but  noted that  the  borough had  been  working                                                                   
closely with  the state  EOC and  the Department of  Military                                                                   
and  Veterans Affairs  who was  coordinating  with FEMA.  The                                                                   
borough  was  doing   more  than  it  would,   based  on  the                                                                   
governor's mandates.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked if  the  borough had  been  working                                                                   
with  FEMA.  Ms.  Gubatayao  responded,   "Yes,  through  the                                                                   
Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz thanked  Ms. Gubatayao  for her  testimony.                                                                   
He   asked   about  her   interpretation   of   the   federal                                                                   
guidelines.  He wondered  how much  of the  funding could  be                                                                   
used and  how much would have  to be returned.  Ms. Gubatayao                                                                   
indicated  that to-date  the borough  had  under $200,000  of                                                                   
expenses  that could  be reimbursed  between  FEMA and  CARES                                                                   
Act  funding. There  was an  additional  $300,000 -  $400,000                                                                   
that  did  not   appear  to  be  reimbursable   under  either                                                                   
program.  The borough  had upwards  of $2.5  million in  lost                                                                   
revenue.  If  she  could  figure  out a  way  to  expand  the                                                                   
programs to  get funding into  the hands of  local businesses                                                                   
and residents,  the money  would not go  very far to  make up                                                                   
for the total lost revenue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:27:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  if  more than  75  percent  of  the                                                                   
funding  would not  be expendable.  Ms. Gubatayao  responded,                                                                   
"Potentially."  She  hesitated to  provide  a  hard and  fast                                                                   
"no."  Presently,  the  borough was  waiting  for  additional                                                                   
information  clarifying the guidelines.  The information  was                                                                   
expected  in the  following week.  If  the guidelines  opened                                                                   
up,  it would  change  things. Based  on  what was  currently                                                                   
known, the  borough would have  difficulty spending  the full                                                                   
sum.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  thanked Ms. Gubatayao for her  testimony and                                                                   
asked  for  any  final  comments  or  comments  from  finance                                                                   
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson commented  that  the committee  had                                                                   
heard  strong arguments  for  full  funding for  school  bond                                                                   
debt reimbursement  and community  assistance. He  thought it                                                                   
was unclear  about the efficacy  of using CARES Act  money in                                                                   
a broad  versus narrow way. He  thought erroring on  the side                                                                   
of   caution    and   to   help   local    governments,   the                                                                   
administration's comments  seemed amenable to signing  off on                                                                   
the allocations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  thanked  all  of  the  testifiers.  He                                                                   
thought  he had  heard the  need exceeded  the funding  level                                                                   
proposed under  the CARES Act  for the state. He  agreed that                                                                   
the common  theme was the need  funding for school  bond debt                                                                   
reimbursement  and community  assistance. He  also heard  the                                                                   
need for  the guidelines  to be expanded  to allow  CARES Act                                                                   
funding to  be used for the  replacement of lost  revenue. He                                                                   
argued  that   the  distribution   of  community   assistance                                                                   
funding  should be based  on population  numbers rather  than                                                                   
on economic  factors which  were subjective.  He thought  the                                                                   
gap  between  Mat-Su,  Anchorage,   and  Fairbanks  could  be                                                                   
narrowed  in a  more  balanced manner.  He  suggested it  was                                                                   
something  that should  be considered  by  the House  Finance                                                                   
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:31:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool thought  he had  heard several  comments                                                                   
about reinstating  school bond  debt reimbursement.  He hoped                                                                   
to receive additional  guidance from the  federal government,                                                                   
as  more clarification  was needed.  He  noted rental  relief                                                                   
and mortgage payments.  He spoke of the disparity  in funding                                                                   
allocations.  He wanted to  see the  CARES Act funding  spent                                                                   
by  communities   that  needed  it.  He  hoped   the  federal                                                                   
government  would  lessen the  restrictions  associated  with                                                                   
the CARES Act monies.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   asked  Co-Chair  Johnston   to  close  the                                                                   
meeting and review the agenda for the following day.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston thanked  the  presenters.  She thought  it                                                                   
was imperative  to get  funds out  to communities  as quickly                                                                   
as possible. She  understood that the federal  funds had come                                                                   
with multiple  restrictions. She hoped the  limitations would                                                                   
be  clarified  by  the  U.S.   Department  of  Treasury.  She                                                                   
thanked everyone that testified.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:36:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:36 a.m.                                                                                         

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