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05/03/2022 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        May 3, 2022                                                                                             
                         9:03 a.m.                                                                                              
9:03:12 AM                                                                                                                    
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
Co-Chair Merrick called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 9:03 a.m.                                                                                                           
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
Representative  Calvin Schrage;  Representative Andi  Story;                                                                    
Representative   Grier    Hopkins;   Tally    Teal,   Staff,                                                                    
Representative Kelly Merrick;  Representative Ivy Spohnholz;                                                                    
Representative   Sara    Hannan;   Representative   Jonathan                                                                    
Kreiss-Tompkins;  Neil   Steininger,  Director,   Office  of                                                                    
Management and Budget, Office of  the Governor; Miles Baker,                                                                    
Infrastructure   Investment  Coordinator,   Office  of   the                                                                    
Governor; Representative  Harriet Drummond,  Co-Chair, House                                                                    
Education     Committee;     Laib    Allensworth,     Staff,                                                                    
Representative  Bryce Edgmon;  Senator Mia  Costello, Chair,                                                                    
Senate Labor and Commerce Committee.                                                                                            
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
Norm  McDonald,  Chief,  Fire   and  Aviation,  Division  of                                                                    
Forestry, Palmer; Frank  Richards, President, Alaska Gasline                                                                    
Development  Corporation, Anchorage;  Ross Risvold,  Finance                                                                    
Manager, Municipality of  Anchorage; Michael Partlow, Fiscal                                                                    
Analyst, Legislative Finance  Division; Dave Bronson, Mayor,                                                                    
Municipality of Anchorage,  Anchorage; Chris Rose, Executive                                                                    
Director,  Renewable  Alaska  Energy Project,  Sutton;  T.W.                                                                    
Patch,  Director  of   Planning,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,                                                                    
Anchorage;   Deb    Moore,   Executive    Director,   Alaska                                                                    
Professional Hunters  Association, Anchorage;  Joshua Lewis,                                                                    
Charitable Gaming Operator,  Anchorage; Louis Cusack, Safari                                                                    
Club International  Alaska Chapter, Chugach;  David Lambert,                                                                    
Charitable  Gaming  Operator,   Fairbanks;  Colleen  Glover,                                                                    
Director,  Tax  Division,  Department  of  Revenue;  Melodie                                                                    
Wilterdink, Staff to Senator Mia Costello.                                                                                      
HB 283    APPROP: CAP; REAPPROP; SUPP                                                                                           
          HB  283  was  HEARD  and  HELD  in  committee  for                                                                    
          further consideration.                                                                                                
HB 358    RENEWABLE ENERGY GRANT FUND                                                                                           
          HB  358  was  HEARD  and  HELD  in  committee  for                                                                    
          further consideration.                                                                                                
HB 413    FACILITIES CONSTITUTING A SCHOOL                                                                                      
          HB  413 was  REPORTED out  of committee  with four                                                                    
          "do    pass"   recommendations    and   six    "no                                                                    
          recommendation"     recommendations    and     one                                                                    
          previously published zero  fiscal note: FN1 (EED);                                                                    
          and one  previously published fiscal  impact note:                                                                    
          FN2 (EED).                                                                                                            
SB 201 AM                                                                                                                       
          USE OF INTERNET FOR CHARITABLE GAMING                                                                                 
          SB  201  was  HEARD  and  HELD  in  committee  for                                                                    
          further consideration.                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the agenda for the meeting.                                                                           
HOUSE BILL NO. 283                                                                                                            
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,     reappropriations,     and     other                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
9:03:55 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair Merrick indicated she  planned to adopt a committee                                                                    
substitute  to   HB  283   that  included   some  additional                                                                    
Co-Chair   Foster   MOVED   to  ADOPT   proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute   for   HB 283(FIN),   Work   Draft   32-GH2436\G                                                                    
(Dunmire, 5/2/22).                                                                                                              
Co-Chair Merrick OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
9:04:46 AM                                                                                                                    
TALLY  TEAL, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE KELLY  MERRICK, referred                                                                    
to Report A,  Report B, Handout C, and Handout  D (copies on                                                                    
file).  She read  the summary  of changes  to the  committee                                                                    
substitute (copy on file):                                                                                                      
     Fiscal Summary:                                                                                                            
     FY 22 UGF: $914,306,200                                                                                                    
     FY 23 UGF: $384,271,300                                                                                                    
     Total UGF: $1,298,577,500                                                                                                  
     Total All Funds FY 22 and FY 23: $3,743,426,300                                                                            
     Changes to Section 4: FY 22 Budget                                                                                         
     Page 33, line 21  Clean Hydrogen Research, Development,                                                                    
     and Demonstration Opportunities                                                                                            
     $5,000,000 FED                                                                                                             
     Page  34,  line 26  Alliance  for  Support of  American                                                                    
     Legion Baseball-Safety  Upgrades, Equipment Replacement                                                                    
     and Repairs to Existing Facilities $200,000                                                                                
     Page  35, line  5  Anchorage School  District-Birchwood                                                                    
     Page  35, line  7 Anchorage  School District-Fire  Lake                                                                    
     Safety Vestibule $524,000                                                                                                  
     Page 35, line 9  AWAIC-Shelter and Transitional Housing                                                                    
     Renovations $347,000                                                                                                       
     Page 35,  line 29 Careline  Alaska-Facility Replacement                                                                    
     and Equipment $1,500,000                                                                                                   
     Page 36,  line 19 Moore Street  Seniors, Inc.-Automatic                                                                    
     Doors for Senior Housing $27,138                                                                                           
     Page 36,  line 30  Seawolf Hockey  Alliance-Purchase of                                                                    
     Bleachers  and  Scoreboard   for  the  University  Rink                                                                    
     Page 37,  line 28  Fairbanks North Star  Borough-Oil to                                                                    
     Gas Conversion Assistance $1,250,000                                                                                       
     Page 38,  line 7 Kenai-Kenai River  Bluff Stabilization                                                                    
     Page  38, line  14  Municipality  of Anchorage-Port  of                                                                    
     Alaska Modernization Program $200,000,000                                                                                  
     Page  38,   line  17  Port  of   Nome-Deep  Draft  Port                                                                    
     Page  38,   line  18  Wrangell-Water   Treatment  Plant                                                                    
     Improvements $5,000,000                                                                                                    
     Page  40,  line  3 Anchorage-Muldoon  Library  Critical                                                                    
     Updates $1,307,000                                                                                                         
     Page  40, line  10  Fairbanks  North Star  Borough-Noel                                                                    
     Wien  Library Broadband  Access  Expansion and  capital                                                                    
     Improvement Project $3,580,000                                                                                             
     Page 40,  line 22 Petersburg Medical  and Public Health                                                                    
     Center $11,413,000 (from $20,000,000)                                                                                      
     Page 40,  line 28 United  Human Services of  SE Alaska-                                                                    
    Teal Street Center, a Social Service Hub $3,700,000                                                                         
     Page  41,  line  33  Eagle  River  Fire  Crew  Facility                                                                    
     Page 42, line 5 Eklutna Lake Trail $90,000                                                                                 
     Page 42, line 20 State Parks Public Use Cabins                                                                             
     Page 43, line 10 Sand Lake Road-Dimond and Raspberry                                                                       
     Traffic Study $30,000                                                                                                      
     Page 43, line 12 Sand Lake Road Lighting $484,000                                                                          
     Page 43, line 13 Signalized Intersection at Tudor Road                                                                     
     & Patterson Street $6,000,00000                                                                                            
Ms. Teal stopped for questions on the numbers section.                                                                          
9:09:29 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative LeBon  had a question about  the $1.5 million                                                                    
designated for the Careline  Alaska Facility Replacement and                                                                    
Equipment. He wondered  if the funding was  for the purchase                                                                    
of a new building or for repair of an old building.                                                                             
Ms. Teal responded that in  conversations with Alaska Mental                                                                    
Health Trust Authority (AMHTA), she  had learned there was a                                                                    
facility  that  the  trust  intended   to  purchase  for  $1                                                                    
million.  The additional  $500,000 was  intended to  replace                                                                    
the  equipment  and  technology   associated  with  the  new                                                                    
Representative   LeBon  understood   that   the  trust   was                                                                    
occupying  to  rent   and  not  to  purchase.   He  did  not                                                                    
understand the intent of the $1.5 million.                                                                                      
Co-Chair  Merrick   indicated  she  would  follow   up  with                                                                    
additional information.                                                                                                         
Representative Josephson  asked for  an explanation  of what                                                                    
Careline did.                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Merrick  reported Representative Grier  Hopkins had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
9:11:10 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
9:13:20 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  Merrick  indicated  Representative  Rasmussen  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
Co-Chair  Merrick invited  Representative  Ivy Spohnholz  to                                                                    
comment on the Careline facility.                                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE  IVY  SPOHNHOLZ,  CO-CHAIR, HOUSE  LABOR  AND                                                                    
COMMERCE  COMMITTEE,   explained  that  Careline   would  be                                                                    
operating   the  9-8-8   crisis  hotline   that  was   being                                                                    
developed. She clarified that Careline  would be renting the                                                                    
new  facility  that  it  planned   to  occupy.  A  potential                                                                    
purchase   agreement   might   also   be   reached.   Recent                                                                    
conversations with  Careline informed her that  the facility                                                                    
project would still  need funding, but the  amount would not                                                                    
be as high as originally anticipated.                                                                                           
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  for  updated  funding numbers.  She                                                                    
reported  that Representative  Sara  Hannan  had joined  the                                                                    
Representative Rasmussen expressed her  support for the Port                                                                    
of Alaska  stabilization project. She indicated  the project                                                                    
would impact at least 80 percent of Alaska.                                                                                     
Co-Chair Merrick  indicated Chief  Norm McDonald  was online                                                                    
and asked  him to comment  on the  need for the  Eagle River                                                                    
Fire Crew Facility.                                                                                                             
9:16:23 AM                                                                                                                    
NORM  MCDONALD,  CHIEF,  FIRE   AND  AVIATION,  DIVISION  OF                                                                    
FORESTRY,  PALMER (via  teleconference), explained  that the                                                                    
Eagle River facility  was intended to house  two fire crews.                                                                    
The crews  were based out of  a facility in Palmer  that was                                                                    
built in the 1990s, but the  lease for the building had just                                                                    
expired  and the  building was  no longer  available to  the                                                                    
crews. The facility  in Eagle River was damaged  in the 2018                                                                    
earthquake and needed to be  demolished, but there were some                                                                    
elements  of the  facility  that could  be  utilized in  the                                                                    
rebuild.  The two  crews affected  were  the only  permanent                                                                    
full-time   fire  crews   in   Southcentral  Alaska.   Other                                                                    
locations  had been  considered, but  the location  in Eagle                                                                    
River was deemed as the  most cost efficient and the central                                                                    
location allowed the crews to quickly respond to incidents.                                                                     
9:19:15 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative Johnson asked how  the project would dovetail                                                                    
with the Division of Forestry at the airport in Palmer.                                                                         
Chief  McDonald responded  that  there was  no  room at  the                                                                    
airport  location for  the additional  45 firefighters  that                                                                    
needed a new facility. All  firefighters fell under the same                                                                    
organization and  management structure. He intended  for the                                                                    
new location to  not only house the 45  firefighters, but to                                                                    
house up  to 80  firefighters as  a staging  location during                                                                    
Representative  Johnson  asked  if the  facility  in  Palmer                                                                    
would change.                                                                                                                   
Chief McDonald  replied that the  Palmer facility  would not                                                                    
Co-Chair  Foster commented  that  he  supported funding  the                                                                    
Port of  Alaska. He also  highlighted the need  for matching                                                                    
funds for the Port of Nome.                                                                                                     
Representative Josephson  had spoken to Mr.  Miles Baker who                                                                    
indicated that  there were no  matching federal  dollars for                                                                    
the Port of Anchorage.                                                                                                          
Co-Chair  Foster  relayed  that   the  U.S.  Army  Corps  of                                                                    
Engineers  had made  the Port  of  Nome one  of its  highest                                                                    
priorities nationwide. The  state's congressional delegation                                                                    
had been working  to get the $250 million for  Nome into the                                                                    
Infrastructure  Investment and  Jobs  Act  (IIJA). He  would                                                                    
hate to see Alaska lose out on the funds.                                                                                       
9:23:45 AM                                                                                                                    
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  referred  to  "Clean  Hydrogen  Research,                                                                    
Development,  and Demonstration  Opportunities" on  page 33,                                                                    
line  21 in  the summary  of  changes. He  understood it  to                                                                    
involve federal  funding and asked  about the source  of the                                                                    
federal funding.                                                                                                                
Ms.  Teal replied  that there  were discretionary  grants in                                                                    
IIJA  which applied  to the  items  mentioned by  Vice-Chair                                                                    
Ortiz. The  administration had indicated that  it would like                                                                    
to apply for the grants.                                                                                                        
Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  if  different  entities within  the                                                                    
state could  apply directly with  the federal  government or                                                                    
if  grants  would  be   administered  through  a  particular                                                                    
Ms. Teal  indicated the state  entity that  would administer                                                                    
the  grant was  the Alaska  Gasline Development  Corporation                                                                    
(AGDC).  She deferred  to  Mr. Neil  Steininger  for a  more                                                                    
detailed response.                                                                                                              
9:25:33 AM                                                                                                                    
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR, was  trying to get Mr.  Miles Baker                                                                    
online who  could better answer the  question. He understood                                                                    
that the grant  was a competitive opportunity  that AGDC was                                                                    
seeking. If AGDC was successful  in obtaining the grant, the                                                                    
money would  be allocated by  the fall  of 2022. He  did not                                                                    
believe the grant would pass  through other organizations in                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
Representative  Wool asked  Mr. Steininger  to elaborate  on                                                                    
the  nature of  the project.  He  thought it  looked like  a                                                                    
research project.                                                                                                               
Mr. Steininger would get back  to the committee with answers                                                                    
to the  questions in  writing. He  understood that  the work                                                                    
would make the wider gasline project more viable.                                                                               
Co-Chair Merrick  indicated she  would keep  an eye  out for                                                                    
Mr. Baker.                                                                                                                      
Representative  Wool thought  it sounded  like the  pipeline                                                                    
was being  developed to run  hydrogen or another  version of                                                                    
natural gas.                                                                                                                    
9:28:00 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Rasmussen  asked  if Co-Chair  Foster  could                                                                    
provide more  information about  the elevated  importance of                                                                    
the Port of Nome.                                                                                                               
Co-Chair  Foster  responded  that the  port  had  originally                                                                    
started out as  an Arctic port but was  becoming more widely                                                                    
used  for  shipping  and  fishing.  Currently,  the  federal                                                                    
delegation  was looking  at  the port  as  a potential  U.S.                                                                    
Coast Guard facility and the  port was important considering                                                                    
the  geopolitical  landscape  and  the war  in  Ukraine.  He                                                                    
relayed that U.S. Senator Dan  Sullivan had thought it would                                                                    
be advantageous to have a naval presence in Nome.                                                                               
Co-Chair Merrick  invited Ms. Teal  to move to  the language                                                                    
9:30:09 AM                                                                                                                    
Ms. Teal  reviewed the  changes to  the language  section of                                                                    
the bill (copy on file):                                                                                                        
     SECTION  21: adds  a new  section that  appropriates an                                                                    
     amount estimated  to be $200,000 from  the Exxon Valdez                                                                    
     Oil Spill Restoration Fund to  the Prince William Sound                                                                    
     Science Center for a research facility.                                                                                    
     SECTION  24: removes  (l) and  (m), which  appropriated                                                                  
     $25,000,000   to   the    Municipality   of   Anchorage                                                                    
     contingent   on   the    $25,000,000   match   by   the                                                                    
     Municipality  (can  be  in-kind)  for  the  purpose  of                                                                    
     preparing   a   full   financial  package   for   final                                                                    
     investment decision for the Port of Alaska.                                                                                
     SECTION 25: adds (l), which  appropriates an amount not                                                                  
     to   exceed  $200,000,000   to   the  Municipality   of                                                                    
     Anchorage  for  the  purpose of  matching  each  dollar                                                                    
     received  in  federal  funds for  the  Port  of  Alaska                                                                    
     modernization project, excluding  money received in the                                                                    
     MARAD settlement.                                                                                                          
     SECTIONS  33-35:  make  technical  changes  to  capital                                                                    
     lapse  language  and  effective dates  due  to  section                                                                    
9:31:34 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative LeBon asked whether  the $200 million for the                                                                    
Port of Alaska  was contingent on a  matching federal dollar                                                                    
amount or if  it would be allocated regardless  of a federal                                                                    
Ms.  Teal responded  that the  state would  be matching  any                                                                    
federal money. The  port was in the process  of applying for                                                                    
several federal  grants and once  the grants  were obtained,                                                                    
the state would match the money.                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick added  that there  were  two $200  million                                                                    
grants that the state would  match. She would have Mr. Baker                                                                    
respond in  writing to the  questions that had  been brought                                                                    
9:33:14 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  Merrick WITHDREW  the  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further  OBJECTION,  the  committee substitute  for  HB  283                                                                    
(FIN) was adopted.                                                                                                              
Co-Chair Merrick  set an amendment  deadline for HB  283 for                                                                    
Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.                                                                                             
9:33:27 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
9:36:47 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair Merrick indicated Mr. Miles Baker was online.                                                                          
Representative  Josephson  referred  to Section  25  of  the                                                                    
committee  substitute. He  understood  it to  read that  the                                                                    
municipality would  receive an  additional $200  million for                                                                    
the  Port of  Alaska subject  to receiving  $200 million  in                                                                    
federal  matching funds.  He wondered  if the  federal funds                                                                    
could be forthcoming though IIJA.                                                                                               
9:37:51 AM                                                                                                                    
MILES  BAKER,  INFRASTRUCTURE  COORDINATOR,  OFFICE  OF  THE                                                                    
GOVERNOR,  responded  that there  was  no  direct source  of                                                                    
funding for the port. There  were several U.S. Department of                                                                    
Transportation  (DOT) grants  for  which the  port might  be                                                                    
eligible. Most  were existing programs  and had  been around                                                                    
prior to IIJA  but were intended for  smaller scale one-time                                                                    
projects. He had  not seen a funding stream as  high as $200                                                                    
million become available in the past.                                                                                           
Representative  Josephson suggested  that in  order for  the                                                                    
port to  receive modernization dollars, the  legislature and                                                                    
the governor would have to  adopt the numbers section of the                                                                    
bill which provided a $200 million grant.                                                                                       
Mr.  Baker  responded that  he  was  not familiar  with  the                                                                    
language of the committee  substitute and thought there were                                                                    
a number  of ways  that funds could  be acquired.  He agreed                                                                    
that the fastest  way to get money for the  project would be                                                                    
for  the  legislature  to make  an  appropriation  of  state                                                                    
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  referred  to  page 33,  line  21  of  the                                                                    
committee  substitute asked  for more  information regarding                                                                    
the  $5 million  available through  IIJA for  clean hydrogen                                                                    
research, development, and demonstration opportunities.                                                                         
Co-Chair  Merrick  redirected  the  question  to  Mr.  Frank                                                                    
Richards of AGDC.                                                                                                               
9:42:21 AM                                                                                                                    
FRANK  RICHARDS,   PRESIDENT,  ALASKA   GASLINE  DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
CORPORATION, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), responded that                                                                    
the  grant  funding  was coming  from  a  competitive  grant                                                                    
program through  the Department of  Energy. The  program was                                                                    
looking  to  implement  hydrogen  hubs  across  the  nation.                                                                    
Alaska could  use its  vast quantities  of methane  from the                                                                    
North Slope  to generate  clean hydrogen  through production                                                                    
of  ammonia,  which could  be  used  for things  like  power                                                                    
generation. The  proposal for Alaska  to receive  the grants                                                                    
from  the   Department  of  Energy   would  need  to   be  a                                                                    
collaborative effort between state  entities and the private                                                                    
sector.  Up  to  $2  billion over  several  years  could  be                                                                    
granted  for each  hydrogen  hub, and  $5  million in  funds                                                                    
could be granted for accepted phase 1 concepts.                                                                                 
Representative  Wool understood  that  the process  involved                                                                    
the extraction of  methane in the ground at  the North Slope                                                                    
which would then be treated  to produce ammonia and used for                                                                    
hydrogen  consumption  elsewhere.  He  wondered  if  he  had                                                                    
summarized the concept accurately.                                                                                              
Mr.  Richards responded  that Representative  Wool's summary                                                                    
was accurate. He elaborated that  the pipeline that would be                                                                    
constructed  from  the  North  Slope  to  Nikiski  could  be                                                                    
utilized  to   deliver  methane  molecules  to   the  Alaska                                                                    
liquefied  natural  gas  (LNG)  project.  The  goal  was  to                                                                    
produce  hydrogen  or  ammonia in  Southcentral  Alaska  and                                                                    
utilize the  Cook Inlet reservoir for  carbon sequestration,                                                                    
which was a byproduct of the generation of ammonia.                                                                             
9:46:36 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Wool thought  there  were  other avenues  to                                                                    
obtain federal  funds for the  port apart from IIJA.  He did                                                                    
not recall  the Municipality of Anchorage  stating that IIJA                                                                    
was the only possible funding source.                                                                                           
Mr. Baker  thought the  question should  be directed  to the                                                                    
Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                      
Co-Chair Merrick indicated someone  from the Municipality of                                                                    
Anchorage was  online. She also relayed  that Representative                                                                    
Jonathan Kreiss-Tompkins had joined the meeting.                                                                                
9:48:46 AM                                                                                                                    
ROSS  RISVOLD, FINANCE  MANAGER,  MUNICIPALITY OF  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference), was available for questions.                                                                              
Representative Wool restated his question.                                                                                      
Mr.  Risvold responded  that  the  municipality was  working                                                                    
with  the  federal  delegation for  earmarks  for  the  port                                                                    
project. He noted  there were several other  types of grants                                                                    
the  municipality  was  pursuing.  There was  an  avenue  of                                                                    
federal  granting that  the municipality  might qualify  for                                                                    
through IIJA that related to  port specifically. If matching                                                                    
was  required   for  the  grants,  the   municipality  would                                                                    
immediately pass an ordinance  by the assembly providing for                                                                    
matching  funds  sourced  through  Port  of  Alaska  revenue                                                                    
bonds.  It  would  be  paid   for  by  implementing  a  port                                                                    
surcharge for  any freight crossing  the dock. Any  time the                                                                    
municipality received  federal grants,  it would  reduce the                                                                    
dollar amount  of the revenue  bonds the  municipality would                                                                    
be  required to  issue and  consequently reduce  the freight                                                                    
9:52:48 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Wool  relayed  that  language  in  the  bill                                                                    
necessitated  matching  each   dollar  received  in  federal                                                                    
funds.  He  was  not  sure if  revenue  bonds  qualified  as                                                                    
federal  funds. He  asked if  Mr. Risvold  felt the  goal of                                                                    
obtaining $200 million in funding was realistic.                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  responded that it  was a reasonable  amount. He                                                                    
suggested  a  match  by  the   municipality  that  would  be                                                                    
comprised of port revenue bonds  or federal funding or other                                                                    
sources  from the  municipality. Recently,  the municipality                                                                    
had  been awarded  a dollar  amount in  court from  the U.S.                                                                    
Department   of   Transportation,  Maritime   Administration                                                                    
(MARAD), but  it was  unknown when  that money  would become                                                                    
available. He  thought some  of those  monies could  be used                                                                    
for the  port. He  reiterated that  if the  municipality did                                                                    
not reach its funding goal,  it would issue revenue bonds to                                                                    
ensure the success of the project.                                                                                              
9:55:05 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative Rasmussen asked how  much the Municipality of                                                                    
Anchorage had already  invested in the project  and how much                                                                    
was approved to bond.                                                                                                           
Mr. Risvold  was specifically speaking  to phase 2 B  of the                                                                    
cargo dock  replacement project.  The municipality  had $222                                                                    
million in funds in hand already,  but the request was for a                                                                    
total of  $600 million  from the  state. He  reiterated that                                                                    
other federal  fund sources had  been identified and  it was                                                                    
reasonable  to  expect  that the  requested  funding  amount                                                                    
could be attained. If the  total funding amount could not be                                                                    
achieved, the municipality would  make up for the difference                                                                    
with revenue bonds.                                                                                                             
Representative Rasmussen  asked if the $25  million proposed                                                                    
in  another version  of the  capital budget  would help  the                                                                    
project move forward in any meaningful way.                                                                                     
Mr. Risvold replied that the  goal was to develop sources of                                                                    
funds for  the Port of Alaska  Modernization Project (PAMP).                                                                    
The municipality was  grateful for any amount  of funding it                                                                    
could  receive but  the $25  million would  be a  meaningful                                                                    
addition.   He   thought   selling  debt   to   finance   an                                                                    
appropriation  by the  State  of Alaska  would  be the  best                                                                    
practice as opposed to always using cash for financing.                                                                         
9:59:36 AM                                                                                                                    
Representative Rasmussen  asked whether  it would  be enough                                                                    
to leverage federal  funding if the state  only invested $25                                                                    
million  with  a  $25  million match  clause  and  the  $200                                                                    
million was not funded.                                                                                                         
Mr. Risvold  replied that  if the  municipality came  out of                                                                    
the legislative  session with  only $25  million with  a $25                                                                    
million match, it  would force the municipality  to take out                                                                    
additional  revenue  bonds to  make  up  the difference.  He                                                                    
indicated if the state could  provide more funding, it would                                                                    
show the  federal government the seriousness  of the state's                                                                    
support of the project.                                                                                                         
Co-Chair  Merrick indicated  Ms.  Teal  had some  additional                                                                    
information on  the version of  the committee  substitute in                                                                    
the Senate that proposed the $25 million funding amount.                                                                        
Ms. Teal  clarified that  the language in  Version I  of the                                                                    
committee  substitute proposed  funding to  the municipality                                                                    
in the amount of $25 million  for the purpose of preparing a                                                                    
full financial  package for  final investment  decision. The                                                                    
funding was for a specific purpose.                                                                                             
Co-Chair  Merrick  understood  that   the  purpose  was  not                                                                    
Ms. Teal  responded in the  affirmative and  emphasized that                                                                    
the  funding  was for  the  purpose  of preparing  the  full                                                                    
financial package.                                                                                                              
Representative Rasmussen  asked Mr. Steininger to  offer his                                                                    
opinion on her next question.                                                                                                   
10:03:25 AM                                                                                                                   
Mr. Steininger asked Representative  Rasmussen to repeat her                                                                    
Representative  Rasmussen had  not asked  the question  yet.                                                                    
She asked if  any other communities had provided  a match as                                                                    
meaningful as the Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                    
Mr. Steininger  responded that  he was  unaware of  any such                                                                    
Representative  Josephson asked  if the  municipality needed                                                                    
monies   for  a   full  financial   package  for   financial                                                                    
investment decision.                                                                                                            
Mr.  Risvold  replied  the language  was  confusing  to  the                                                                    
municipality  and  it  was  not sure  what  the  task  would                                                                    
entail. The municipality had a  plan of finance for the Port                                                                    
of Alaska and suggested that the  funds in the plan would be                                                                    
used  for  construction  purposes  and not  limited  to  the                                                                    
purpose of  developing a financial  plan. He  disagreed with                                                                    
the proposed language in the  Senate version of the bill. He                                                                    
suggested    revisiting   the    language   regarding    any                                                                    
Co-Chair  Merrick  was  notified  that  there  had  been  an                                                                    
amendment that  was adopted in the  Senate Finance Committee                                                                    
which removed "preparing a full  financial package for final                                                                    
investment  decision for  the Port  of Alaska"  and inserted                                                                    
"the Port  of Alaska Modernization Project  including a full                                                                    
financial package for final investment decision."                                                                               
10:07:58 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative  Josephson   asked  what  the   magnitude  of                                                                    
difference  to the  tariff would  be  if the  state did  not                                                                    
invest any more dollars in the Port of Alaska project.                                                                          
Mr. Risvold asked if  Representative Josephson was referring                                                                    
to cargo dock replacement only or the entire PAMP.                                                                              
Representative   Josephson   responded    the   cargo   dock                                                                    
replacement only to start.                                                                                                      
Mr.  Risvold responded  that if  the cargo  dock replacement                                                                    
was funded  solely by the  municipality, the  current tariff                                                                    
of $3.30  per ton would increase  to $23.48 per ton.  If the                                                                    
$1.851  billion PAMP  was funded  by  the municipality,  the                                                                    
current $3.30  per ton tariff  would increase to  $33.05 per                                                                    
Co-Chair  Merrick indicated  Mr.  Michael  Partlow with  the                                                                    
Legislative Finance Division was online.                                                                                        
10:10:28 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative Rasmussen  recalled that the  Municipality of                                                                    
Anchorage  had funded  $222 million  to the  Port of  Alaska                                                                    
project.  She   wondered  if   any  other   communities  had                                                                    
contributed   a  dollar-to-dollar   match  to   any  similar                                                                    
infrastructure projects.                                                                                                        
MICHAEL   PARTLOW,  FISCAL   ANALYST,  LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE                                                                    
DIVISION  (via   teleconference),  could  not  think   of  a                                                                    
specific example  of any major infrastructure  projects that                                                                    
were funded  in the same  manner. However, there  were other                                                                    
communities   that  contributed   a  match   towards  harbor                                                                    
infrastructure in the community.                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  asked if  Mr. Partlow  could speak                                                                    
to the  requirements for local government  municipal grants.                                                                    
She wondered how much the state would match.                                                                                    
Mr. Paltrow responded  that he thought it  was a dollar-for-                                                                    
dollar match  but he  would verify  the information  and get                                                                    
back to the committee.                                                                                                          
Representative Carpenter assumed  that multiple alternatives                                                                    
for the project would have  been successful. He would like a                                                                    
copy  of  the  alternatives  proposed  that  might  be  less                                                                    
10:13:48 AM                                                                                                                   
DAVE  BRONSON, MAYOR,  MUNICIPALITY OF  ANCHORAGE, ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference), indicated that  $25 million in funding                                                                    
would not move  the project forward in  any significant way.                                                                    
He remarked that it was  difficult to obtain a large federal                                                                    
amount of matching dollars without  a maximum buy-in. If the                                                                    
state  would  not invest  enough  of  its own  dollars,  the                                                                    
federal  government would  not want  to invest.  He did  not                                                                    
think $25  million would be  enough to convince  the federal                                                                    
government to take the project seriously.                                                                                       
Representative  Carpenter did  not  think  his question  had                                                                    
been answered.                                                                                                                  
Mayor  Bronson  had  not  heard  Representative  Carpenter's                                                                    
question. He asked him to repeat it.                                                                                            
Representative   Carpenter  asked   what  potential   viable                                                                    
alternatives had been considered.                                                                                               
Mayor Bronson  asked if Representative  Carpenter's question                                                                    
related  to the  engineering or  the financial  structure of                                                                    
Representative  Carpenter thought  his  question applied  to                                                                    
both factors. He wondered if  there were more cost-effective                                                                    
alternatives to modernizing the port.                                                                                           
Representative  Rasmussen asked  Mayor  Bronson to  describe                                                                    
the changes  the project has  undergone over the  years. She                                                                    
thought  the  requested  funding  amount  had  already  been                                                                    
reduced from previous proposals.                                                                                                
Mayor Bronson responded that the  municipality was trying to                                                                    
be  as fiscally  conservative as  possible. He  relayed that                                                                    
the  municipality had  to  lock in  an  engineering plan  in                                                                    
order  to  move  forward.  It  was the  best  plan  and  the                                                                    
municipality had committed  to the plan. The  plan could not                                                                    
change at this point.                                                                                                           
10:19:40 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative  Carpenter was  unsure  that the  engineering                                                                    
plan was the best plan financially.                                                                                             
Representative   Wool  asked   if   someone  could   provide                                                                    
information  on the  structure of  the ports  in Alaska.  He                                                                    
wondered  if  funneling  most  goods  coming  to  the  state                                                                    
through Anchorage was the best option.                                                                                          
Co-Chair Merrick asked if  Representative Wool was directing                                                                    
the question to Mayor Bronson.                                                                                                  
Representative Wool thought there  was a state-wide interest                                                                    
in  shipping  and  receiving  goods in  all  of  Alaska.  He                                                                    
wondered if there was a  more holistic approach to the cargo                                                                    
10:22:25 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
10:23:13 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Merrick indicated the  committee would continue its                                                                    
discussion on the capital budget in the afternoon meeting.                                                                      
HB  283  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
HOUSE BILL NO. 413                                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to facilities constituting a school;                                                                      
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
10:23:35 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  the  bill sponsor  if  she had  any                                                                    
comments to begin the hearing.                                                                                                  
REPRESENTATIVE HARRIET  DRUMMOND, CO-CHAIR,  HOUSE EDUCATION                                                                    
COMMITTEE,  relayed that  the  committee  had been  provided                                                                    
with  a  list  of  Alaska's 31  charter  schools  and  their                                                                    
locations  (copy  on file)  in  response  to a  conversation                                                                    
during  an earlier  hearing of  the bill.  Additionally, the                                                                    
committee had been provided with a  list of the six types of                                                                    
public school  in Alaska. She  also directed attention  to a                                                                    
chart of  her own design  that illustrated the  injustice of                                                                    
the current school  formula. She was happy to  explain it in                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
10:25:15 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Foster MOVED  to report  HB 413  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
HB 413  was REPORTED  out of committee  with four  "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations and six  "no recommendation" recommendations                                                                    
and one  previously published zero  fiscal note:  FN1 (EED);                                                                    
and one previously published fiscal impact note: FN2 (EED).                                                                     
10:25:37 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
10:26:57 AM                                                                                                                   
HOUSE BILL NO. 358                                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to the renewable energy grant fund                                                                        
     and recommendation program; and providing for an                                                                           
     effective date."                                                                                                           
10:27:15 AM                                                                                                                   
LAIB  ALLENSWORTH,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   BRYCE  EDGMON,                                                                    
thanked  the committee  for hearing  the bill.  He explained                                                                    
that the  bill extended  the renewable energy  grant program                                                                    
by  ten  years. The  program  was  established in  2008  and                                                                    
received a  previous ten-year extension  in 2012.  Since its                                                                    
inception, the program had distributed  over $275 million in                                                                    
grants and over  $300 million in matching  federal and local                                                                    
grants. He read the sectional analysis (copy on file):                                                                          
     Sec 1.  Amends Section 5, Ch. 31, SLA 2008, as                                                                             
     previously amended, to extend the repeal date of the                                                                       
     fund to June 30, 2033.                                                                                                     
     Sec 2.  Establishes an immediate effective date under                                                                      
     AS 01.10.070(c).                                                                                                           
Co-Chair  Merrick   indicated  there  were   two  testifiers                                                                    
10:28:57 AM                                                                                                                   
CHRIS  ROSE,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, RENEWABLE  ENERGY  ALASKA                                                                    
PROJECT,  SUTTON  (via  teleconference),  relayed  that  the                                                                    
Renewable Energy  Alaska Project (REAP) was  involved in the                                                                    
program's  inception and  strongly  supported  the bill.  He                                                                    
explained that  the program had particularly  helped develop                                                                    
projects  in rural  communities in  the state  that suffered                                                                    
from high diesel  fuel costs. It would be  much smoother for                                                                    
REAP to develop grant proposals  if the program was extended                                                                    
as soon as  possible rather than putting it  off for another                                                                    
T.W. PATCH,  DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, ALASKA  ENERGY AUTHORITY,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),  was available for questions                                                                    
and indicated that Mr. Curtis Thayer was available as well.                                                                     
10:30:51 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Merrick OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
10:31:10 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative LeBon  asked Mr. Rose  if Alaska gas  was the                                                                    
most  common  fuel source  in  the  conversion process  from                                                                    
heating oil to other fuel sources.                                                                                              
Mr. Rose  responded that the  type of projects  mentioned by                                                                    
Representative LeBon had not been  an emphasis for the grant                                                                    
fund  in the  past. There  had  been some  focus on  heating                                                                    
projects, but the projects  had been mostly community-based.                                                                    
The  program prioritized  communities in  rural Alaska  that                                                                    
did not have access to natural gas.                                                                                             
Representative  LeBon  understood  that  the  focus  of  the                                                                    
program  was  renewable  energy.  He wondered  if  he  could                                                                    
assume that  the program covered  changes like  decreasing a                                                                    
community's  reliance  on  diesel  fuel  in  favor  of  wind                                                                    
Mr.  Rose  responded in  the  affirmative.  In recent  years                                                                    
there  had also  been discussion  on generating  electricity                                                                    
through  renewable energy.  There was  also the  opportunity                                                                    
for  communities to  consider  heating  projects that  would                                                                    
allow them  to move  to biomass heating  in order  to reduce                                                                    
the  reliance  on  heating   oil.  Technology  had  advanced                                                                    
significantly,  and air  source heat  pumps were  now viable                                                                    
alternatives for  heating. He hoped that  heat pump projects                                                                    
in rural Alaska could be grant-funded through the program.                                                                      
Representative  LeBon understood  that although  natural gas                                                                    
would not be excluded from  eligibility, it was not a common                                                                    
energy source alternative.                                                                                                      
Mr. Rose replied that Representative LeBon was correct.                                                                         
10:34:19 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative  Carpenter   wanted  to   know  why   both  a                                                                    
renewable energy fund and a green bank were needed.                                                                             
Representative  Wool indicated  that  the  short answer  was                                                                    
that one was a grant and one was a loan.                                                                                        
Co-Chair   Merrick   would   follow  up   to   obtain   more                                                                    
Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the amendment deadline.                                                                               
HB  358  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
10:34:58 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
10:35:31 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATE BILL NO. 201 am                                                                                                        
     "An Act relating to charitable gaming online ticket                                                                        
     sales and activities; relating to charitable gaming                                                                        
     proceeds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
10:35:43 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  MIA  COSTELLO,  CHAIR, SENATE  LABOR  AND  COMMERCE                                                                    
COMMITTEE,  explained  that   the  legislation  would  allow                                                                    
charitable gaming to be conducted  online and for the ticket                                                                    
sales  to  be  conducted   electronically.  The  Senate  had                                                                    
amended  Section  3   of  the  bill  to   allow  for  online                                                                    
fundraisers to be  conducted for the benefit  of any country                                                                    
being invaded by  another country. The change  had been made                                                                    
in order to make it  possible to hold online fundraisers for                                                                    
the people of Ukraine.                                                                                                          
Representative Wool  recalled that  there was  another piece                                                                    
of  legislation related  to raffles  and lotteries  [HB 128]                                                                    
that had  passed the  House. He wondered  how the  two bills                                                                    
Senator  Costello   responded  that   the  two   bills  were                                                                    
identical  apart   from  the  aforementioned   amendment  in                                                                    
Section 3.                                                                                                                      
Representative  Wool  understood  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
apply  to any  country  that was  being  invaded by  another                                                                    
country and not just Ukraine.                                                                                                   
Representative  Carpenter   wondered  if  the   states  that                                                                    
bordered Mexico could  be considered invaded and  asked if a                                                                    
raffle could be held in Alaska for Arizona, for example.                                                                        
Co-Chair  Merrick understood  that HB  128 and  SB 201  were                                                                    
identical apart from the amended Section 3.                                                                                     
Senator Costello responded that she  did not know the answer                                                                    
to Representative Carpenter's question.                                                                                         
Co-Chair Merrick OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
10:40:06 AM                                                                                                                   
DEB MOORE,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA  PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS                                                                    
ASSOCIATION,  ANCHORAGE   (via  teleconference),   spoke  in                                                                    
support  of SB  201. The  bill would  modernize the  state's                                                                    
charitable gaming program  and allow for more  funds to flow                                                                    
into  the  state  to  support  the  non-profit  sector.  She                                                                    
highlighted that  non-Alaskans would be able  to participate                                                                    
in  online  raffles and  would  increase  the likelihood  of                                                                    
donations.  The  Alaska   Professional  Hunters  Association                                                                    
(APHA)  had attempted  to organize  a fundraiser  to benefit                                                                    
Ukraine,  however  it  was  not  permitted  because  statute                                                                    
prevented charitable  funds from  being used outside  of the                                                                    
state. She indicated that the  amended Section 3 of the bill                                                                    
would  have  allowed for  the  funds  to be  distributed  to                                                                    
Ukraine. She  was concerned about  what would happen  if the                                                                    
bill did not pass.                                                                                                              
10:42:19 AM                                                                                                                   
JOSHUA  LEWIS, CHARITABLE  GAMING  OPERATOR, ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), explained  that he assisted  non-profits in                                                                    
the state  to raise  funds for their  missions. He  spoke in                                                                    
support of the  bill with the amended Section 3  but did not                                                                    
support any  other amendments. He highlighted  the important                                                                    
work of non-profits in the  state and thought the bill would                                                                    
allow  Alaskans to  offer support  to the  organizations. He                                                                    
did not think  the state and local  governments could afford                                                                    
to  support  non-profit  organizations.  He  thought  online                                                                    
raffles and fundraisers were working.                                                                                           
Representative Carpenter  asked whether Mr.  Lewis supported                                                                    
the amended Section 3 of the bill.                                                                                              
Mr.  Lewis responded  that he  supported Section  3 and  the                                                                    
applicable amendment.                                                                                                           
10:44:39 AM                                                                                                                   
LOUIS  CUSACK,  SAFARI  CLUB INTERNATIONAL  ALASKA  CHAPTER,                                                                    
CHUGACH (via teleconference), spoke  in support of the bill.                                                                    
He  relayed  that  a  significant  portion  of  Safari  Club                                                                    
International  Alaska Chapter's  (SCIAC)  funding came  from                                                                    
charitable  gaming  in  the form  of  raffle  ticket  sales.                                                                    
Alaska was  often bombarded with  interest groups  from out-                                                                    
of-state  and  the  bill  would  allow  external  groups  to                                                                    
contribute to  Alaska's economy through raffles.  He relayed                                                                    
that SCIAC had organized  a fundraiser that contributed over                                                                    
$291,000 of  out-of-state fundraising dollars to  the Alaska                                                                    
Department of  Fish and Game.  The money had  also qualified                                                                    
for federal  matching dollars through  the Pittman-Robertson                                                                    
Act. He thought that the  bill leveled the playing field. He                                                                    
reiterated SCIAC's support of the legislation.                                                                                  
10:47:44 AM                                                                                                                   
DAVID  LAMBERT, CHARITABLE  GAMING OPERATOR,  FAIRBANKS (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support  of the bill. He supported                                                                    
about  35   non-profit  organizations  and   emphasized  how                                                                    
important the legislation was for  the non-profit sector. He                                                                    
did not think the bill  was controversial as written but was                                                                    
concerned   that  someone   might   "hijack"   it  and   add                                                                    
controversial elements to it.                                                                                                   
10:48:35 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  Ms. Colleen  Glover  to review  the                                                                    
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
10:48:58 AM                                                                                                                   
COLLEEN  GLOVER,  DIRECTOR,   TAX  DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
REVENUE (via teleconference), reviewed  the fiscal note from                                                                    
the  Department  of Revenue  with  control  code QYqML.  She                                                                    
indicated the  note was changed  from indeterminant  to zero                                                                    
because it was  difficult to discern whether  the bill would                                                                    
change the  amount of raffle  activity. The  raffle activity                                                                    
was a small  component of state revenue  but was significant                                                                    
for non-profits.                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick invited Senator Costello to the table.                                                                         
10:50:40 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative Wool noted he had  amended the companion bill                                                                    
HB 128 on the House  floor. The amendment limited the number                                                                    
of raffle  tickets available  to prevent  organizations from                                                                    
adding additional  tickets to  decrease individual  odds and                                                                    
increase  revenue.  He  wondered  if  the  change  would  be                                                                    
Senator Costello deferred to her staff.                                                                                         
10:51:44 AM                                                                                                                   
MELODIE  WILTERDINK,   STAFF,  SENATOR  MIA   COSTELLO  (via                                                                    
teleconference), understood that all  of the existing raffle                                                                    
rules would  apply to online  raffle sales as well.  She did                                                                    
not know  if the amendment was  necessary but did not  see a                                                                    
problem with it as long as the non-profits were open to it.                                                                     
Representative  Wool  relayed  that   he  had  proposed  the                                                                    
amendment  specifically  because  the  operation  of  online                                                                    
raffle  sales  was  new  and   he  felt  the  amendment  was                                                                    
necessary for clarity.  He asked if there were  limits as to                                                                    
what a non-profit  could spend the proceeds of  a raffle on.                                                                    
He wondered if limits needed to be in statute.                                                                                  
Senator Costello  indicated that Section 3  as amended would                                                                    
sunset  on July  1, 2024.  She  deferred to  Ms. Glover  for                                                                    
Representative Wool's question regarding spending limits.                                                                       
Ms. Glover  responded that the acceptable  uses for proceeds                                                                    
were listed  in statute.  The bill would  change one  of the                                                                    
existing limits that only permitted  the proceeds to be used                                                                    
in-state to allow for out-of-state spending.                                                                                    
10:55:26 AM                                                                                                                   
Representative  Wool   understood  the  intent   to  support                                                                    
Ukraine.  He  wondered what  type  of  reassurance would  be                                                                    
offered to prove that money  raised to benefit Ukraine would                                                                    
actually  be received  by Ukraine.  He asked  if there  were                                                                    
limits as  to what the proceeds  could be spent on  or if it                                                                    
was at the discretion of the non-profit.                                                                                        
Ms.  Wilterdink  noted  that   the  language  in  Section  3                                                                    
specifically required that the money  be used to benefit the                                                                    
people  of the  affected  country.  She offered  reassurance                                                                    
that  the money  would  go  to refugee  causes  and not  for                                                                    
things like munition.                                                                                                           
Representative Wool  thought the  language seemed  more open                                                                    
than Ms.  Wilterdink's interpretation, but he  would look at                                                                    
it more closely.                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  reviewed  the agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
SB  201  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
10:57:52 AM                                                                                                                   
The meeting was adjourned at 10:57 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 358 Renewable Energy Fund Fact Sheet 02.11.2022.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
HB 358 APA Support 2.28.2022.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
HB 358 Alaska Energy Policy.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
HB 358 REF Projects By Region 04.14.2021.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
HB 358 Sectional Analysis 2.24.2022.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
HB 358 Sponsor Statement 2.24.2022.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
SB 201 Sectional Analysis Version A.A.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 Supporting Document - AK Charities with Raffle Permits 2.18.22.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 Written Testimony Received as of 2.21.22.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
HB 358 Public Testimony Rec'd by 050222.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 358
SB 201 Public Testimony Rec'd by 050222.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
HB 283 CS WorkDraft v.G 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 283
HB 283 CS2 Ver G report A 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 CS2 Ver G report B 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 CS2 Ver G report D 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 Summary of Changes Ver I to Ver G 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 CS v. G Supporting Document Careline AK 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 413 HFIN Follow up charter-school-directory-2020.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 413 HooperBaySchoolCharter ADM and funding 4.12.2022 with fairness calculation by Rep. Drummond.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 413 Types of Schools in Alaska HFIN QA follow up.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 201 Public Testimony Rec'd by 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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4.27.2022 (H) FIN Hearing HB 413 DEED Follow-Up.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 CS v.G Supporting Documents 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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HB 283 DHSS Response HFIN 050322.pdf HFIN 5/3/2022 9:00:00 AM
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