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07/17/2018 08:30 AM House SELECT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE ETHICS

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08:31:28 AM Start
06:02:52 PM Adjourn
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Public Hearing Related to Complaint 17-03
EXECUTIVE SESSION - as needed to discuss
Complaint 17-03
Public Session
Other Business
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             SELECT COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE ETHICS                                                                           
                         JULY 17, 2018                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
                       House Subcommittee                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
8:31:28 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
1. Call the Meeting to Order                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Chair Dennis "Skip" Cook called the meeting to order at                                                                       
8:35 AM.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Committee members present:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Dennis "Skip" Cook, Chair                                                                                                     
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                       
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                     
Deb Fancher                                                                                                                   
Lee Holmes                                                                                                                    
Joyce Anderson                                                                                                                
Conner Thomas                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Others present:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Jerry Anderson, Administrator                                                                                                 
Jacqui Yeagle, Administrative Assistant                                                                                       
Nancy Nolan, Hearing Officer                                                                                                  
Kevin Fitzgerald, Ethics Committee Counsel                                                                                    
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                  
Tim Petumenos, Counsel for David Eastman                                                                                      
Karina Chambers, Paralegal to Tim Petumenos                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
2. Approval of Agenda                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Representative Colleen Sullivan Leonard made a motion to                                                                      
approve the agenda. No objection. Agenda approved.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
3. Public Comment                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
No public comment.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
4. Public Hearing Related to Complaint 17-03                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Chair Cook turned  the meeting over to Hearing  Officer Nancy                                                                 
Nolan.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
Nancy Nolan  stated that the  primary witness, Naomi  Klouda,                                                                 
was unavailable  to testify. Since  Nancy Nolan was  notified                                                                 
of the  witness unavailability at  the last minute  (close of                                                                 
business  the evening  before  the  hearing), the  issue  was                                                                 
addressed on record at the time set for the hearing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
After hearing  from both  parties, Nancy  Nolan stated  that,                                                                 
given  the importance  of this  particular  witness, and  the                                                                 
late   notice   of  unavailability,   she   would   grant   a                                                                 
continuance if that was the remedy being requested.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
The attorneys held a private conference.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
The  attorneys   agreed  to  proceed  without   the  witness,                                                                 
pursuant  to an  agreement that  Kevin  Fitzgerald would  not                                                                 
object  to   the  admission  of   four  documents   that  Tim                                                                 
Petumenos  had hoped to  introduce through  the witness.  The                                                                 
parties  agreed to  read the  deposition into  the record  in                                                                 
light of the witness unavailability.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Nancy   Nolan   read   to   the   Subcommittee   Pre-Evidence                                                                 
Instructions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald  delivered his  opening statement on  behalf                                                                 
of  the  House  Subcommittee  of   the  Select  Committee  on                                                                 
Legislative Ethics.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
Tim  Petumenos  stated  the  respondent's  position  is  that                                                                 
maximum access to the public be allowed to the hearing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Nancy Nolan  stated that it would  be up to the  Committee to                                                                 
decide  whether   the  public  is   allowed  to   record  the                                                                 
proceedings.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Chair Cook announced  that there would be no  restrictions on                                                                 
public recording  of the proceedings  but that there  is only                                                                 
one official recording of the proceedings.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Chair  Cook   directed  Nancy  Nolan's  attention   to  Kevin                                                                 
Fitzgerald.  Kevin Fitzgerald  asked Nancy  Nolan to  confirm                                                                 
that the  Committee be  allowed to  ask questions during  the                                                                 
proceedings.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Nancy Nolan  confirmed that  the Committee  is authorized  to                                                                 
ask questions during the proceedings.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos  delivered his opening  statement on  behalf of                                                                 
Representative David Eastman.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald  called his first witness, Naomi  Klouda, by                                                                 
a reading  of Naomi Klouda's  deposition. Jerry Anderson  was                                                                 
placed  under  oath  to  read  the   part  of  Naomi  Klouda.                                                                 
Fitzgerald read the part of Tim Petumenos.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos  read a  selected section  of Reuters  Handbook                                                                 
of Journalism.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit 6,  the transcript  of the  Naomi Klouda  deposition,                                                                 
was offered and admitted into evidence.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos  requested then withdrew  his request  to admit                                                                 
into  evidence  Exhibit  H,  the   selected  section  of  the                                                                 
Reuters Handbook of Journalism. Exhibit H was withdrawn.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Jerry  Anderson   was  called  as  a  witness   and  provided                                                                 
testimony.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  1, Jerry  Anderson's activity  log  dated April  13,                                                                 
2017   documenting   Anderson's   phone   conversation   with                                                                 
Representative  David Eastman was  offered and admitted  into                                                                 
evidence.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Nancy Nolan  gave instructions to  the Subcommittee  prior to                                                                 
break.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
11:24:54 AM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
BREAK                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
1:07:21 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Chair  Cook  called the  public  hearing  back in  to  order.                                                                 
before Kevin Fitzgerald  resumed direct examination  of Jerry                                                                 
Anderson.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  2,  the  letter  written   by  Representative  David                                                                 
Eastman dated April  14, 2017, was offered and  admitted into                                                                 
evidence.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  4,  the  email that  Jerry  Anderson  received  from                                                                 
Naomi Klouda on  May 18, 2017, summarizing  the communication                                                                 
that she had  had with Representative David Eastman  on April                                                                 
28, 2017 was offered and received into evidence.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit   5,  the   formal  charge   issued   by  the   House                                                                 
Subcommittee was offered and admitted into evidence.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Tim   Petumenos   conducted  cross   examination   of   Jerry                                                                 
Anderson.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Kevin  Fitzgerald conducted  re-direct  examination of  Jerry                                                                 
Anderson.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Lee  Holmes  asked clarifying  questions  to  Jerry  Anderson                                                                 
regarding the confidentiality of ethics complaints.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
Representative  Chris Tuck  asked  Jerry Anderson  about  his                                                                 
recollection of the date he was contacted by Naomi Klouda.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos  called Karina  Chambers as  his first  witness                                                                 
to read  statements made  by Naomi  Klouda   statements  made                                                                 
to Monique  Rapuzzi on  September 25,  2017. Karina  Chambers                                                                 
was placed under  oath and Tim Petumenos and  Karina Chambers                                                                 
read the relevant parts of Naomi Klouda's statement.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Kevin  Fitzgerald  called  Representative  David  Eastman  to                                                                 
testify.  Representative  David   Eastman  was  placed  under                                                                 
oath.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos questioned Representative David Eastman.                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  E,  the article  by  Suzanne  Downing in  Must  Read                                                                 
Alaska dated  April 19,  2017 was  offered and admitted  into                                                                 
evidence.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  D,  Representative  David   Eastman's  phone  record                                                                 
establishing the  date, time, and duration of  the phone call                                                                 
with Naomi Klouda was offered and admitted into evidence.                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Kevin    Fitzgerald    conducted   cross    examination    of                                                                 
Representative David Eastman.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Lee  Holmes  stated that  Representative  David  Eastman  had                                                                 
left  the  room  when  the  Steve  Strait  complaint  against                                                                 
Representative LeDoux  was discussed at the  Ethics Committee                                                                 
meeting in August 2017.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Exhibit  B, the  newspaper article  written  by Naomi  Klouda                                                                 
dated January  18, 2018,  and Exhibit  F, an article  written                                                                 
by Naomi Klouda  dated May 3, 2017 were offered  and admitted                                                                 
into evidence.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Representative    Colleen   Sullivan    Leonard   asked    if                                                                 
Representative David  Eastman's phone records show  the phone                                                                 
call   between  Representative   David   Eastman  and   Jerry                                                                 
Anderson.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative  David  Eastman  posed  the  possibility  that                                                                 
Jerry Anderson  had telephoned  Representative David  Eastman                                                                 
on  his office  phone  and  therefore,  the phone  would  not                                                                 
appear on the phone record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos  called Steve Strait  as witness. Steve  Strait                                                                 
was placed under oath.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos questioned Steve Strait.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
Kevin  Fitzgerald   conducted  cross  examination   of  Steve                                                                 
Strait.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald re-called Jerry Anderson as a witness.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald  and Jerry Anderson  read the transcript  of                                                                 
the  committee Investigator's  Monique  Rapuzzi interview  of                                                                 
Naomi Klouda.  Kevin Fitzgerald  read Monique Rapuzzi's  part                                                                 
and Jerry Anderson read Naomi Klouda's part.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald delivered his closing argument.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Tim Petumenos delivered his closing argument.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Kevin Fitzgerald delivered his rebuttal argument.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
Nancy   Nolan   read  to   the   Subcommittee   Post-Evidence                                                                 
Instructions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
Deb  Fancher asked  if the  Subcommittee  should consider  in                                                                 
its  deliberations the  Order  Addressing  Motion to  Dismiss                                                                 
Due  to  Committee  Composition  that  the  Subcommittee  had                                                                 
received prior to the public hearing.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
Nancy  Nolan  responded  that the  Subcommittee  should  only                                                                 
consider evidence received during the public hearing.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
EXECUTIVE SESSION as needed to discuss matters related to                                                                     
Complaint 17-03 under AS. 24.60.170(j),(k)  and under Rules of                                                                  
Procedure Section 5(b)(2). The purpose  of Executive session is                                                               
to discuss matters which by law  must remain confidential under                                                                 
Uniform Rule 22(b) regarding executive  sessions, and Rules of                                                                  
Procedure Section 5: Executive Sessions and discussion of                                                                       
matters, the immediate knowledge of would adversely affect the                                                                  
finances of a governmental unit, and discussion of subjects that                                                                
tend to prejudice the reputation and character of a person.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
5. Public Session                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
Chair  Skip   Cook  announced   that  the  Subcommittee   had                                                                 
completed their work in executive session on H 17-03.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
6. Other Business                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
No other business.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
7. Adjourn                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Chair  Skip Cook  entertained  a  motion to  adjourn.  Conner                                                                 
Thomas moved to  adjourn. No objection. Chair  Cook adjourned                                                                 
the meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
6:02:52 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Administrative  Footnote:  Exhibits 3,  A,  and C  as  marked                                                                 
were not offered or admitted as  part of the public hearing.                                                                  

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