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02/13/2025 01:30 PM House ENERGY

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01:34:41 PM Presentation(s): Aea Progress Update
02:14:25 PM Overview: Renewable Energy Fund, Round 17
02:57:33 PM Adjourn
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Energy Fund by Curtis Thayer, Director
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                       February 13, 2025                                                                                        
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ky Holland, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Donna Mears, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Mia Costello                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): AEA PROGRESS UPDATE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW:  RENEWABLE ENERGY FUND~ ROUND 17                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint, titled "Alaska                                                              
Energy Authority, AEA Progress Update" and answered questions                                                                   
during the overview of the Renewable Energy Fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CONNER ERICKSON, Planning Director                                                                                              
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented  the PowerPoint, titled "Alaska                                                             
Energy Authority,  AEA Progress Update"  and gave an  overview of                                                               
the Renewable Energy Fund.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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1:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS  called the  House  Special  Committee on  Energy                                                               
meeting  to order  at 1:33  p.m.   Representatives Edgmon,  Kopp,                                                               
Rauscher, Costello, Holland,  and Mears were present  at the call                                                               
to order.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): AEA Progress Update                                                                                           
              PRESENTATION(S): AEA Progress Update                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
1:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  a continuation  from  the  January 23,  2025,  update by  the                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:35:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority                                                               
(AEA), presented  a PowerPoint, titled "Alaska  Energy Authority,                                                               
AEA  Progress  Update"  [hard  copy  included  in  the  committee                                                               
packet].   He  began on  slide  3, titled  "Renewable Energy  and                                                               
Energy Efficiency  Programs" and pointed  out the list  of public                                                               
outreach  programs, which  included  working  groups on  electric                                                               
vehicles,  solar energy,  and wind  energy.   He pointed  out the                                                               
focus  of various  types of  renewable energy,  such as  biomass,                                                               
energy  storage, heat  recovery,  and others,  as  listed on  the                                                               
slide.  He  discussed the possibility of nuclear  energy in rural                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  moved to  slide 4 and  discussed the  federal funding                                                               
allocation of  $74 million.  He  stated that these funds  are for                                                               
home energy and  appliance rebates.  He stated that  AEA has been                                                               
working  in  conjunction with  the  Alaska  Housing Authority  to                                                               
modify a program  for distribution of these funds,  with no state                                                               
match required.  He discussed the  status of these funds, as they                                                               
have been placed on pause  by the current federal administration.                                                               
He noted that this award was  conditional, and a contract has not                                                               
been signed.   He moved to slide  5, titled "Solar for  All."  He                                                               
pointed out  that these  federal funds  are designated  for solar                                                               
projects in disadvantaged communities,  but these funds have also                                                               
been  put on  hold by  the  current federal  administration.   He                                                               
noted that no match is required  to receive this grant.  He moved                                                               
to slide 6,  titled the "Grid Resilience  Formula Grant Program."                                                               
He  stated that  this is  formula-based funding,  requiring a  15                                                               
percent state  match and a  33 percent  small utility match.   He                                                               
noted that this funding has also  been put on hold by the current                                                               
federal administration.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 7, titled "Black  Rapids Training Site                                                               
(BRTS)  Defense  Community  Infrastructure Pilot  Program."    He                                                               
noted  that AEA  has partnered  with the  Golden Valley  Electric                                                               
Cooperative (GVEA), and  the grant was awarded to  GVEA to extend                                                               
the transmission  line 34 miles  along the Richardson  Highway to                                                               
BRTS.    He  explained  that three  diesel  generators  that  are                                                               
nearing  the  end of  their  useful  lives  power BRTS,  and  the                                                               
training grounds  facility would  be closed without  this update.                                                               
He noted that  this has not been affected by  the federal funding                                                               
freeze, and no state match is  required.  He noted that the slide                                                               
on the  National Electric  Vehicle Infrastructure  (NEVI) program                                                               
has been removed, as this funding has been suspended.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER,  in  response  to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Rauscher, stated that the GVEA  transmission line would go out of                                                               
Delta  Junction  for  34  miles  to  the  training  center.    He                                                               
expressed uncertainty  concerning how  far out of  Delta Junction                                                               
towards Fairbanks the line would extend.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER, in  response  to a  question  from Co-Chair  Holland                                                               
concerning the  funding for the  new High-Voltage  Direct Current                                                               
(HVDC) line,  stated that  this funding was  $206 million  from a                                                               
federal grant.   He noted  that the  state matched the  funds and                                                               
AEA appropriated bonds to the  project; however, this project has                                                               
also been  paused by  the federal government.   He  discussed the                                                               
nuances  concerning  this  grant,  as there  is  a  signed  grant                                                               
agreement,  with  some money  reimbursed.    He stated  that  the                                                               
project is currently moving forward using state and AEA funding.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER,  in response to  a follow-up question  concerning the                                                               
restructuring of  AEA's bond authority, explained  the bond issue                                                               
with  the Bradley  Lake Hydroelectric  Project.   He pointed  out                                                               
that the  project is moving  forward, and the financing  is being                                                               
matched with  federal funding for the  next two years.   He noted                                                               
that state bonds  are not being used, so the  interest from these                                                               
bonds would go  back into the project, while  the utilities would                                                               
be reimbursing AEA based on the reduced cost of power.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER,  in response  to  a  question from  Co-Chair  Mears,                                                               
stated  that AEA  is allowed  to  retain the  interest from  bond                                                               
money.    He  discussed  the   governor's  budget  regarding  the                                                               
interest  AEA would  be able  to retain  for projects.   He  also                                                               
noted  that AEA  would  be  able to  retain  certain federal  tax                                                               
credits, as written  into the governor's budget.   He pointed out                                                               
that normally these  tax credits would go back to  the state.  He                                                               
expressed  the  opinion  that  when   AEA  retains  tax  credits,                                                               
ratepayers would see the benefit.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONNER ERICKSON, Planning Director,  Alaska Energy Authority, co-                                                               
presented the  PowerPoint, titled  "Alaska Energy  Authority, AEA                                                               
Progress Update."  On slide  9, he discussed AEA's new electronic                                                               
library.     He   explained  that   the   library  creates   more                                                               
transparency  for the  workings of  AEA.   He noted  that it  was                                                               
established  in 2023  with  the  funds from  AEA  and the  Denali                                                               
Commission.  He  pointed out that there has  been public interest                                                               
in the  library, as it  now has over 14,000  available documents.                                                               
He  discussed the  cost  savings and  the  availability of  older                                                               
documents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON,  in response  to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Edgmon  concerning   the  Susitna-Watana   Hydroelectric  Project                                                               
documents, stated that  he would follow up to  the committee with                                                               
the  number  of  documents  available.     He  said,  "There  are                                                               
definitely  a plethora  of documents  related to  Su-Wa," as  the                                                               
library is a "one-stop" shop for AEA documentation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  expressed the  understanding that  this is                                                               
probably the largest collection of  documents related to this one                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON  moved to slide  10 and discussed the  Power Project                                                               
Fund (PPF)  loan program.  He  stated that it is  a long-standing                                                               
program,   providing  working   capital,  construction   funding,                                                               
preliminary  design, and  feasibility reconnaissance  funding for                                                               
many different  types of energy  projects, including  both fossil                                                               
fuel and  renewable energy projects.   He pointed out  the number                                                               
of current  loans and the "healthy"  balance of the program.   He                                                               
noted that  the funding  needs from the  program would  depend on                                                               
the other sources of available funding.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:57:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER, in  response to  a question  from Co-Chair  Holland,                                                               
stated that AEA would not  be requesting to recapitalize PPF, and                                                               
he  explained his  understanding that  borrowers would  prefer to                                                               
pay off their balances early.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON added  that more  borrowers are  interested in  the                                                               
program, and the borrowed amounts have increased.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  gave the example  that if  a large loan  request came                                                               
through, the loan committee would  be responsible for this, along                                                               
with the  board of directors.   He  explained that if  the amount                                                               
were over $5 million, this loan  would need to be approved by the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS expressed  the understanding  that last  year the                                                               
projects were  in abeyance, as  there was not  sufficient capital                                                               
for loans.  She questioned whether  there is more interest in the                                                               
program because it is being recapitalized.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER pointed  out that now there is  available funding, AEA                                                               
would be actively advertising the  program again.  He pointed out                                                               
on  slide 11  the outstanding  PFF  loan program  projects.   The                                                               
slide  listed the  interest rate,  current  balance, and  initial                                                               
balance of each project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS commented  on the  value of  this program  to the                                                               
state and the necessity of keeping it funded.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON  pointed out  that since  its inception  the program                                                               
has funded  over 110 operational  projects.  He noted  that these                                                               
completed  projects  have resulted  in  the  displacement of  100                                                               
million gallons of diesel per year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:02:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON expressed the  understanding that the money                                                               
going into the  Renewable Energy Fund (REF) program  would be for                                                               
project development,  and this  would also  be "feeding  into the                                                               
fledgling  renewable energy  industry."   He opined  that because                                                               
the funding  may be  frozen, the  program may  not continue.   He                                                               
questioned the presenter's opinion on this.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER expressed  agreement.   He pointed  out that  the REF                                                               
program has  had more  success than  other programs,  but project                                                               
feasibility must  be determined.   He noted that the  REF program                                                               
is funding a  large solar farm and two windfarms.   He added that                                                               
85 percent of these projects go  into rural Alaska.  Pointing out                                                               
some other  examples, he reiterated  that 100 million  gallons of                                                               
diesel  has been  displaced.   He discussed  the past  and future                                                               
funding  of the  REF program.    He reiterated  that the  program                                                               
across the state  has been a "winner."  In  response to a follow-                                                               
up question, he  discussed the program's synergy  with the Alaska                                                               
Housing  Finance  Corporation  (AHFC) and  its  subsidiary  green                                                               
bank.  He noted  that AEA has created a new  job for making loans                                                               
with the green bank in rural Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLLAND  commented  that  the  REF  program  has  grown                                                               
independent   power  producers   (IPPs)  in   adjunct  with   the                                                               
utilities.  In  determining REF loans, he  questioned whether the                                                               
type of project would be considered,  such as an IPP project or a                                                               
public utility project.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  expressed the  understanding that  90 percent  of all                                                               
IPPs received  money from the REF  program.  He stated  that this                                                               
is the  first step  in determining whether  a project  is viable.                                                               
He  suggested that  REF is  fueling the  success of  IPPs in  the                                                               
state.    In response  to  a  follow-up question  concerning  the                                                               
Emerging  Technology  Fund  program  being used  as  a  tool,  he                                                               
pointed  out  that the  program  was  ended  because it  was  not                                                               
considered   viable.     He  expressed   the  opinion   that  new                                                               
technologies are  not needed; rather,  the new  technologies that                                                               
exist need to be "put to work."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:  RENEWABLE ENERGY FUND, ROUND 17                                                                                     
           OVERVIEW:  RENEWABLE ENERGY FUND, ROUND 17                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[The committee  proceeded to the  final order of  business, which                                                               
was an overview of the Renewable Energy Fund, Round 17.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CONNER  ERICKSON,  Planning  Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority                                                               
(AEA),  gave  an overview  of  the  Renewable Energy  Fund  (REF)                                                               
program as a  continuation of the AEA  PowerPoint, titled "Alaska                                                               
Energy  Authority, AEA  Progress Update"  [hard copy  included in                                                               
the committee packet].   On slide 15, he  discussed the Renewable                                                               
Energy  Fund Advisory  Committee  (REFAC).   He  stated that  AEA                                                               
works  in  close  cooperation  with  REFAC  for  project  funding                                                               
recommendations and policy matters.   He pointed out that four of                                                               
the nine members of REFAC are legislators.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COSTELLO  questioned  the interface  between  the                                                               
working groups  listed on slide  6 and  AEA.  She  questioned the                                                               
creation of a nuclear energy working group.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority                                                               
(AEA), responded that  the University of Alaska  leads the effort                                                               
on  nuclear energy  in the  state, while  AEA is  only a  part of                                                               
this.   He  noted that  currently  working groups  would only  be                                                               
dealing with  proven technology, and micronuclear  energy has not                                                               
been proven up  to this point.  He discussed  the process between                                                               
AEA and the working groups.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:14:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON moved  to  slide  16 and  discussed  the REF  grant                                                               
program  guidelines.     He  stated  that   these  projects  must                                                               
incorporate renewable  energy technologies.  He  pointed out that                                                               
battery storage  systems projects would be  included because they                                                               
would incorporate  renewable energy.   He stated that there  is a                                                               
carve out for  natural gas projects but no  applications for this                                                               
have been submitted.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER, in  response to a question  from Representative Kopp,                                                               
pointed  out that  state  funds  are used  for  the REF  program;                                                               
therefore, the program has no frozen federal funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER,  in  response  to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Edgmon,  stated that  when the  REF program  was setup,  the 2010                                                               
energy  policy had  been maintained.   He  noted that  the Alaska                                                               
Energy Security Task Force has  overseen the changes in renewable                                                               
energy  in  rural Alaska,  and  this  has  ensured that  the  REF                                                               
program was keeping up with new technologies.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  commented on  the vast differences  in the                                                               
renewable energy industry that have occurred since 2010.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON, continuing the overview,  spoke about REF applicant                                                               
eligibility.     He  stated  that  eligible   applicants  include                                                               
electric utilities that hold a  certificate of public convenience                                                               
and  necessity, independent  power  producers  (IPPs), and  local                                                               
governments.   He  moved to  slide 17  and pointed  out the  four                                                               
stages  of  the  REF  program  evaluation  process,  as  follows:                                                               
evaluation of  the applicant, evaluation of  the project, initial                                                               
project ranking, and final project  ranking.  He pointed out that                                                               
third-party  contracts  would   conduct  the  cost-benefit  ratio                                                               
analyses,  and  the  Department of  Natural  Resources  would  be                                                               
consulted concerning land  use issues.  He stated  that AEA would                                                               
do the project  ranking.  He noted that matching  funds would not                                                               
be required,  but this could  earn points  for an applicant.   He                                                               
pointed  out   that  other  criteria  considered   would  be  the                                                               
community's   cost   of   energy,  project   readiness,   project                                                               
sustainability, and public benefit.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON, in response to  a request for examples, pointed out                                                               
that the Egegik project was funded  by the REF program.  He noted                                                               
that tidal  projects score  lower because  of the  nascent nature                                                               
and feasibility  of these.   He stated that  some recommendations                                                               
from  REFAC  would be  provided  to  applicants, adding  that  no                                                               
projects  are  considered  "bad,"  they  are  just  ranked.    In                                                               
response  to  a follow-up  question  concerning  risk factors  or                                                               
bias, he stated  that risk tolerance is considered,  but it would                                                               
not be  a final determining  factor.   He noted that  the program                                                               
has worked to guide the trajectory  of the energy industry in the                                                               
state, steering it  from "the brink."  He noted  that the program                                                               
took  some  risky projects  early  on,  but these  projects  have                                                               
become less risky  with time.  He gave examples  of some of these                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:26:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON moved  to  slide 18,  which  addressed the  funding                                                               
limits  for REF  Round 17.    He noted  that  this is  done on  a                                                               
project-by-project basis.   He moved to slide  19, which compared                                                               
REF  capitalization  for  past   fiscal  years  and  the  current                                                               
proposed  Round  17.   He  pointed  out  the per-year  change  in                                                               
appropriations, and  he thanked the committee  for their efforts.                                                               
On  slide 20,  he summarized  the applications  received for  REF                                                               
Round 17.   He pointed  out that not  all nine energy  regions of                                                               
the state  are represented,  and he explained  that AEA  does not                                                               
make recommendations  on the applications.   He noted  the uptick                                                               
in applications  for battery system  projects, along  with solar,                                                               
wind, and hydro projects.  He  pointed out that slide 21 showed a                                                               
geographic distribution of Round 17 project recommendations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON  moved to slide  22 and  slide 23, which  showed the                                                               
applicants  for REF  Round  17.   He  noted  that the  governor's                                                               
budget has  already funded some  projects, while others  would be                                                               
sent  to  the legislature  for  funding  decisions.   He  briefly                                                               
described each project on the list.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER offered to provide a  writeup to the committee on each                                                               
of the scored applicants listed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON, detailing  the projects  funded in  the governor's                                                               
budget,  stated  that the  City  of  Pelican  is applying  for  a                                                               
relicensing project  for an existing  hydroelectric dam.   If not                                                               
funded, he said this community  could be 100-percent reliant on a                                                               
diesel  generator.   He  pointed  out  that the  Naknek  Electric                                                               
Association's  project is  one-half solar  and one-half  battery-                                                               
operated.   He  noted that  the community  already has  solar, so                                                               
this project has been proven.   He pointed out that the Goat Lake                                                               
Hydro project  is a reconnaissance  project, as there  is already                                                               
an existing  dam facility  in Southeast,  and this  project would                                                               
add water  to the  dam.   Moving to the  next project  listed, he                                                               
pointed  out  the  Nuvista Kwethluk  wind  and  battery  project,                                                               
explaining its extensive problems.   He stated that the project's                                                               
goal would be to use the  existing wind turbines.  Next, he noted                                                               
the battery  project in Quinhagak,  which would maximize  the use                                                               
of the  wind turbines already there.   He noted that  the biomass                                                               
heating system  project for the  City of  Nenana is in  its final                                                               
phase.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON,  going through  the  list  of projects  that  need                                                               
funding  from the  legislature,  discussed  the Kongiganak  solar                                                               
energy project.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLLAND,  concerning the  projects that  the legislature                                                               
would  be  required to  fund,  requested  an explanation  of  the                                                               
community  benefits for  each  project.   He  questioned how  the                                                               
chart should  be read  to understand  the comparison  of benefits                                                               
for each project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON responded that the order  of projects on the list is                                                               
not based  on an  incremental reduction of  the benefits  to each                                                               
community.   He stated that this  is partly because the  costs in                                                               
rural communities are  higher than in non-rural  communities.  He                                                               
noted that these projects reflect  the need of each community, as                                                               
a  community  would submit  an  application  per  its need.    He                                                               
expressed the  opinion that the leveraging  of additional funding                                                               
would need  to be considered,  as well as household  energy costs                                                               
in the  community.   For example, he  explained that  a community                                                               
might  not be  displacing much  fuel, while  its general  cost of                                                               
energy  is high;  therefore, the  benefit would  be greater.   In                                                               
response  to a  follow-up  question concerning  analysis done  on                                                               
community savings,  he stated that  there is not a  single answer                                                               
to the  question.  He explained  that the details of  the project                                                               
would provide a much greater view of  how it would be ranked.  He                                                               
gave examples of this.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON  moved to  the  next  project  on the  list,  which                                                               
concerned  a Railbelt  wind diversification  project.   He stated                                                               
that  this is  a feasibility  project for  three additional  wind                                                               
sites.   He pointed  out that  there was an  estimate of  the gas                                                               
displacement  and  energy  production based  on  the  preliminary                                                               
design.   Moving down the list,  he stated that the  Homer energy                                                               
recovery  project is  small.   He  noted that  this would  entail                                                               
installing  a turbine  with  a release  valve  within the  city's                                                               
municipal water  system.   He stated  that this  would be  a test                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS  noted that Homer Electric's  natural gas contract                                                               
is almost at its end, so this should be a key project.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON  moved to  the  next  project  on the  list,  which                                                               
involved  the  installation of  electronic  thermal  stoves.   He                                                               
noted that there  is an existing windfarm at  Atmautluak, and the                                                               
thermal stoves  would access  the excess  wind energy  during the                                                               
peak of energy production.  He  stated that this would offset the                                                               
usage  of heating  oil in  this community.   He  stated that  the                                                               
Southeast Alaska Power Agency (SEAPA)  has a project to install a                                                               
third turbine  for the  peak load  at its  hydroelectric facility                                                               
for  the  communities  of Petersburg,  Wrangell,  Ketchikan,  and                                                               
Metlakatla.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON, in  response to  a question  from Co-Chair  Mears,                                                               
expressed agreement that  the SEAPA project would  be helpful, as                                                               
it would  expand the use of  heat pumps.  He  expressed agreement                                                               
that this project would provide ancillary benefits.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON pointed  out  that the  storage  system project  in                                                               
Chevak  would be  a battery  system attached  to a  windfarm that                                                               
already exists.   He pointed  out that this would  alleviate some                                                               
of the  diesel usage, and  it would  provide grid stability.   He                                                               
moved to  the Knutson Creek  hydro project, explaining  that this                                                               
would  be a  small project  that  is based  on the  needs of  the                                                               
commercial  fishing industry.   While  the load  would be  in the                                                               
summertime,  he said  that  it would  benefit  the community  all                                                               
year.  He stated that the  Akiachak solar energy project would be                                                               
an augmentation  to existing solar  energy there, and  this would                                                               
add to the community's capacity.   He continued, stating that the                                                               
Nome Joint Utility  System has a project to install  a solar farm                                                               
alongside a preexisting wind project.   He stated that this would                                                               
provide  stability  during the  summer  when  the wind  power  is                                                               
lacking, allowing for a greater diesel fuel displacement.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON   moved  down   the  list   to  the   Hunter  Creek                                                               
hydroelectric feasibility study  project in the Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Valley.   He  stated that  this would  offset the  consumption of                                                               
natural  gas  in  the  Railbelt.   He  pointed  out  the  Chignik                                                               
hydroelectric power  system project would increase  hydro project                                                               
for the City of Chignik.  He noted  that this would be a match to                                                               
a project  set to receive  federal funding; however,  the federal                                                               
funding has  been put on  pause.  He  pointed out that  the final                                                               
project  on the  list is  a  Kenai Peninsula  solar project  that                                                               
would be  selling power  to Homer  Electric.   He noted  that the                                                               
final design  and construction of this  project needs completing.                                                               
He moved  to slide 24, which  showed all projects that  have been                                                               
funded under the REF program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:50:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON,  in response  to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Rauscher,  clarified that  there are  18 recommendations  for REF                                                               
Round  17.   In response  to a  follow-up question,  he clarified                                                               
that the column  labeled "HEC" refers to  household energy costs.                                                               
He stated  that this represents  a combination of  electrical and                                                               
heating costs for the residents in a community.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON  stated slide 24  charts the  equitable distribution                                                               
of funds across the different regions  of the state.  He remarked                                                               
that even  though AEA looks  to provide equitable funding,  it is                                                               
limited  on its  ability to  make recommendations  to applicants.                                                               
He moved to slide 25, which  shows the efficacy of the program in                                                               
terms  of  implementation of  renewable  energy  projects in  the                                                               
state.   He  suggested  that the  program  has saved  communities                                                               
"hundreds of thousands of dollars" by replacing diesel.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS  commented  that having  unreliable  power  would                                                               
create  additional  costs to  communities.    She suggested  that                                                               
there are other savings not included in these numbers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON  expressed  agreement.   He  noted  that  combining                                                               
technologies also creates savings to communities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS  added that complementary technologies  could take                                                               
diesel power offline for days.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:55:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLLAND questioned  whether there  are any  preexisting                                                               
reports on  historical benefits  of the  different projects.   He                                                               
suggested  that having  these long-term  results would  help with                                                               
future investments.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ERICKSON  responded  that  this  information  is  available;                                                               
however, it  may not be in  a format that is  easy to comprehend.                                                               
He stated  that there is  a list on  AEA's website under  the REF                                                               
program  of  all  the  funded projects,  and  this  includes  the                                                               
details of  each of these  projects.  He  added that there  is an                                                               
impact analysis for the program,  which attests to the success of                                                               
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER offered to provide this information to the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS expressed appreciation  to the presenters and made                                                               
closing comments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Energy Special Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:57 p.m.                                                                     

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2025.02.10 AEA Progress Update (Cont'd) Presentation to House Energy Committee (Final).pdf HENE 2/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
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AEA
AEA_REF_Round17_Recommendations_Jan2025.pdf HENE 2/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
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REF_Round_17_Recommended_Projects_Summaries_Report_Jan2025.pdf HENE 2/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
AEA
REF_Round_17_Status_Report_FINAL_Jan2025.pdf HENE 2/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
AEA