Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/04/2025 01:00 PM House ENERGY

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01:00:10 PM Start
01:02:43 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Utilities
03:02:28 PM Adjourn
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from Homer Electric Association, Chugach
Electric, Matanuska Electric Association, Golden
Valley Electric Association, and Alaska Village
Electric Co-Op
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                        February 4, 2025                                                                                        
                           1:00 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ky Holland, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Donna Mears, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Cathy Tilton (via teleconference)                                                                                
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Mia Costello                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA UTILITIES                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KERIANN BAKER, Chief Strategy Officer                                                                                           
Homer Electric Association Inc.                                                                                                 
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint on Homer Electric                                                                 
Association during the Alaska Utilities presentation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY BRADISH, Director of External Affairs & Public Relations                                                                 
Golden Valley Electric Association                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint on Golden Valley                                                                  
Electric Association during the Alaska Utilities presentation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JULIE ESTEY, Chief Strategy Officer                                                                                             
Matanuska Electric Association                                                                                                  
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Presented  a  PowerPoint   on  Matanuska                                                             
Electric Association during the Alaska Utilities presentation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TRISH BAKER, Senior Manager of Government Affairs                                                                               
Chugach Electric                                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented a PowerPoint  on Chugach Electric                                                             
during the Alaska Utilities presentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BILL STAMM, President & CEO                                                                                                     
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented a  PowerPoint on  Alaska Village                                                             
Electric   Cooperative  (AVEC)   during   the  Alaska   Utilities                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:00:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KY HOLLAND called the  House Special Committee on Energy                                                             
meeting to  order at 1:00  p.m.  Representatives  Costello, Kopp,                                                               
Rauscher, Mears, and  Holland were present at the  call to order.                                                               
Representative Tilton (via  Teams) arrived as the  meeting was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:02 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska Utilities                                                                                             
               PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska Utilities                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
1:02:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLLAND announced that the  only order of business would                                                               
be the Alaska Utilities presentation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:04:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERIANN   BAKER,   Chief   Strategy   Officer,   Homer   Electric                                                               
Association   Inc.,   participated   in  the   Alaska   Utilities                                                               
presentation.   She  explained  her role  at  the Homer  Electric                                                               
Association (HEA)  and described HEA's unique  board composition.                                                               
She  presented  a PowerPoint  about  HEA  (copy included  in  the                                                               
committee  packet) and  showed  slide 2  and  slide 3,  regarding                                                               
HEA's values and history.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KERIANN  BAKER described the  photo on slide 4  and continued                                                               
to  slide  5 which  provided  highlights  of  HEA's 80  years  of                                                               
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:09:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. K. BAKER discussed slide  6, titled "The Numbers: HEA," which                                                               
detailed meters, miles, employees,  and the average megawatt (MW)                                                               
load.    She   segued  to  slide  7,   titled  "Generation  Asset                                                               
Portfolio," which  showed photos  and provided  details regarding                                                               
electrical storage  and generation.   Moving  to slide  8, titled                                                               
"Homer  Electric Member  Programs,"  she  described the  programs                                                               
available  to  members  which included  the  following  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Real-time Outage Map                                                                                                       
     Outage Text Notification                                                                                                   
     Energy Calculator                                                                                                          
     Line of Credit Program                                                                                                     
     Budget Billing Program                                                                                                     
     Electronic Billing                                                                                                         
     Mobile App                                                                                                                 
     Meters                                                                                                                     
     Heat Pump Rebate                                                                                                           
     Net Metering Program                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:11:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  K.   BAKER  addressed  utility  challenges   beginning  with                                                               
financial updates  shown on slide  10 and  slide 11.   She talked                                                               
about  how inflation  affects members  and how  HEA's costs  have                                                               
risen over time.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:13:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  K. BAKER  directed the  committee's attention  to slide  12,                                                               
titled "Hazard Trees,"  which are a major cause of  outages.  She                                                               
explained that there  has been a 568 percent  increase in outages                                                               
caused by downed  trees and referenced the fires in  LA and Maui.                                                               
She said HEA  is clearing its right of ways  to address the issue                                                               
and played a video that illustrated the problem.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:19:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. K. BAKER  segued to slide 13 regarding  fuel availability and                                                               
natural gas.   She explained that  HEA planned to replace  one of                                                               
its less efficient  natural gas units and is  incorporating 30 MW                                                               
of solar.  The goal is to  reduce natural gas usage by 21 percent                                                               
annually.   HEA would  also be  pursuing diversification  of fuel                                                               
and energy mix at a cost that makes sense.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  K.  BAKER  responded  to   a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Rauscher by asking  that the legislature involve  HEA in proposed                                                               
solutions,   pointing  out   the   significant  consequences   of                                                               
legislative decisions.   She recommended that  the state consider                                                               
a diversified approach to energy.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:24:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. K BAKER,  in response to a question  from Representative Kopp                                                               
regarding  whether HEA's  voice  is equivalent  to  the voice  of                                                               
other utilities,  said that "the  problem with raising a  lady to                                                               
speak up, is  that she speaks up," and expressed  her belief that                                                               
HEA has the ability express itself  and be heard.  She introduced                                                               
HEA board members.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:28:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY BRADISH, Director of External  Affairs & Public Relations,                                                               
Golden Valley  Electric Association,  participated in  the Alaska                                                               
Utilities presentation  and showed  a PowerPoint  titled, "Golden                                                               
Valley  Electric   Association  Energy  Outlook,"   (GVEA)  (copy                                                               
included in the  committee packet).  She proceeded  with slide 2,                                                               
titled  "GVEA  Snapshot,"  which  described  the  membership  the                                                               
service  area,  the number  of  powerlines,  peak load,  and  the                                                               
generation facilities.  Moving to  slide 3, she  described GVEA'S                                                               
2024 energy portfolio, which included  four oil fired plants, two                                                               
coal fired plants,  a hydroelectric facility, a wind  farm, and a                                                               
solar farm.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:33:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRADISH  moved to slide  4 which addressed  GVEA's challenges                                                               
including volatile energy costs,  the natural gas supply, Bradley                                                               
Lake's   temporary  loss   of   hydro   generation,  and   system                                                               
constraints,  such  as  limited  ability  to  integrate  variable                                                               
energy, transmission capacity, and aging infrastructure.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:38:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRADISH presented slides 5, 6, and 7, titled "Legislative                                                                   
Priorities," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                        
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt Transmission                                                                                                      
     GVEA requests  state support  in matching  federal GRIP                                                                    
     funds  for Phase  1 upgrades  to the  Railbelt electric                                                                    
     transmission grid.                                                                                                         
     Capacity  to transmit  power  between Railbelt  service                                                                    
     areas is currently limited.                                                                                                
     Allows   the   cheapest   power  to   reach   end-users                                                                    
     irrespective of location or energy source.                                                                                 
     Provides   opportunity    to   increase   interregional                                                                    
     capacity   between  Homer   and   Anchorage,  and   add                                                                    
     redundancy and energy storage.                                                                                             
     Facilitates clean  energy projects at scale  for energy                                                                    
     security and diversification.                                                                                              
     GVEA  supports  state  funding   for  upgrades  to  the                                                                    
     Railbelt electric  transmission grid  between Anchorage                                                                    
     and Healy.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Natural Gas Solution                                                                                                       
     GVEA supports  measures to ensure  short-term certainty                                                                    
     for  importing LNG  to Cook  Inlet  and supports  state                                                                    
     efforts  to   assess  the  feasibility  of   a  gasline                                                                    
     connecting the North Slope  with the Railbelt, provided                                                                    
     a spur to Fairbanks is included.                                                                                           
     GVEA expects to  receive <1% of its  power from natural                                                                    
     gas sources in 2025.                                                                                                       
     The  Railbelt  is  facing a  shortfall  in  Cook  Inlet                                                                    
     natural gas as soon as 2027.                                                                                               
     GVEA  is working  collaboratively  with other  Railbelt                                                                    
     utilities  to  explore  gas  supply  alternatives  that                                                                    
     could   provide   system-wide  benefits   to   Railbelt                                                                    
     residents and businesses.                                                                                                  
     Currently,  importing LNG  to  Cook Inlet  is the  most                                                                    
     feasible means  to meet gas demand  requirements in the                                                                    
     short term                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Dixon Diversion Support                                                                                                    
     GVEA   supports  AEA's   Dixon  Diversion   Project  to                                                                    
     optimize the energy potential  of the AEA-owned Bradley                                                                    
     Lake Hydroelectric Project.                                                                                                
     Hydropower is the Railbelt's lowest-cost generation.                                                                       
     Project  will  increase  Bradley Lake's  annual  energy                                                                    
     production by 50%, enough to  power an estimated 24,000                                                                    
       30,000 homes.                                                                                                            
     Estimated to offset 1.5 billion cubic feet of natural                                                                      
     gas per year in Railbelt power generation.                                                                                 
     Estimated completion is 2030.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:42:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE   ESTEY,  Chief   Strategy   Officer,  Matanuska   Electric                                                               
Association,  participated in  the Alaska  Utilities presentation                                                               
and showed a PowerPoint  regarding Matanuska Electric Association                                                               
(MEA) (copy included  in the committee packet).   She started her                                                               
presentation with  slide 2  which featured a  snapshot of  MEA by                                                               
the numbers  and moved  to slide  3, which  compared the  cost of                                                               
electricity  in  different  areas  of the  United  States.    She                                                               
explained that the  current cost to bring power to  MEA homes and                                                               
business is 22 cents per KWH.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY  discussed the  co-op priorities shown  in slide  4 and                                                               
fuel supplies  shown in  slide 5.   She  emphasized that  the gas                                                               
contract with Hilcorp expires in spring of 2028                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY drew  the committee's attention to the  graphs on slide                                                               
6 and 7, pointing out  that electric utilities used approximately                                                               
one-third  of  the  available  Cook   Inlet  Gas,  but  that  MEA                                                               
represented only 10 percent of that Railbelt gas demand.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY  turned to looming  shortfalls illustrated on  Slide 8,                                                               
noting that  renewables would  help solve the  gas problem.   She                                                               
showed slide  9 which illustrated  a timeline of key  fuel supply                                                               
milestones.   She pointed out that  there was a potential  gap in                                                               
gas  services between  March  of 2028  and 2030.    There is  one                                                               
proposed solar  project during that  gap, but it would  be likely                                                               
that MEA  would need  to burn  diesel at a  cost to  members that                                                               
could be three  to four times as much.   She explained that there                                                               
were other proposals, but none of them were date certain.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY responded  to  several  questions from  Representative                                                               
Costello regarding  the cost of  coal and diesel.   She explained                                                               
that  wind, solar,  coal,  and  several forms  of  gas have  been                                                               
coming  in at  approximately the  same  price range  and with  no                                                               
significant  price  breaks between  projects.    Diesel would  be                                                               
three to four times as much as gas prices.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY  continued  the presentation  with  slide  10,  titled                                                               
"Generation  -  all Options  have  Tradeoffs,"  which provided  a                                                               
detailed   comparison   of   three   categories   of   electrical                                                               
generation: gas supply; renewables; and  other clean energy.  She                                                               
described  the costs  and  benefits of  various  types of  energy                                                               
supplies and sources.   She discussed how  renewable energy would                                                               
play a role but emphasized  that short term liquified natural gas                                                               
(LNG)  would still  be needed  until longer  term options  are in                                                               
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER asked  when the  utility would  start to                                                               
negotiate for imported LNG                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY  responded to a  question from  Representative Rauscher                                                               
concerning the  timelines for additional Cook  Inlet gas drilling                                                               
as  well as  bringing imported  LNG online.   She  explained that                                                               
those conversations were ongoing.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:00:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP  asked whether  MEA  has  concerns that  the                                                               
focus on the  LNG line suffocates the "all options  on the table"                                                               
sentiment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY  responded  to  a   question  by  Representative  Kopp                                                               
regarding  whether the  focus on  LNG  stifles consideration  and                                                               
action on other  sources of energy by saying it  was absolutely a                                                               
concern.   She  emphasized the  need to  consider all  options to                                                               
meet  the needs  of  the Railbelt.   She  explained  that MEA  is                                                               
focused on reducing regret costs and optimizing flexibility.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY resumed the presentation  with slide 11, titled "Energy                                                               
Diversification,"  which read  as  follows [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     2024: 16% RENEWABLE                                                                                                        
      • Mostly from hydro generation (Eklutna and Bradley                                                                       
     Lake), and a small mix of solar and wind resources.                                                                        
       • 8.5 MW Solar Farm in Houston, Alaska came online                                                                       
     last fall.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY moved to slide  12, titled "The Railbelt," which showed                                                               
a map of the Railbelt  power system, describing it as, "Connected                                                               
with single  line between  Homer up to  Fairbanks."   She pointed                                                               
out that the utilities are  "not-for-profit, public power, making                                                               
decisions   in  the   best  interest   of  their   residents  and                                                               
communities."   She showed slide  13, titled "Constraints  on the                                                               
Railbelt  Grid,"  which  read as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Technical Constraints                                                                                                      
     Inadequate physical infrastructure                                                                                         
     Lack of adequate capacity                                                                                                  
     Lack of adequate redundancy                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Economic Constraints                                                                                                       
     Limited economic dispatch                                                                                                  
     Wheeling distorts transactions                                                                                             
     Small market limits options                                                                                                
     No economies of scale                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Institutional Constraints                                                                                                  
     No management and operation of assets for the benefit                                                                      
     of the whole.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY showed slide 14, titled " What Are The Hurdles?"                                                                      
concerning  the challenges  faced  by  MEA.   The  slide read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Transmission, transmission, transmission.                                                                                
     • All options have tradeoffs and are more expensive.                                                                       
     • Limited meaningful, region-wide collaboration.                                                                           
     • Uncertain federal and state policy and funding.                                                                          
          • Minimal free market competition and viable                                                                          
     developers.                                                                                                                
     • Did I mention transmission?                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     MEA Goals                                                                                                                  
     • Develop joint energy highway with unified oversight                                                                      
     and management of the backbone.                                                                                            
     • Secure short to mid term gas supply (2028  2040).                                                                        
       • Work with state leaders and utilities to chart a                                                                       
     path forward on generation projects.                                                                                       
      • Leverage Alaska's immense resources for a diverse                                                                       
     and secure generation portfolio.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     MEA Ask: It's a critical time. Please help us keep all                                                                     
     generation options on the table.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRISH  BAKER,  Senior  Manager  of  Government  Affairs,  Chugach                                                               
Electric, participated  in the Alaska Utilities  presentation and                                                               
showed a  PowerPoint regarding  Chugach Electric  (copy available                                                               
in the  committee packet).   She explained that  Chugach Electric                                                               
developed  an integrated  multi-decade resource  plan that  looks                                                               
forward and considers what could  become economically viable when                                                               
current energy  sources reach the  end of  their life span.   She                                                               
moved  to  slide 4,  titled  "  Current Chugach  Generation  Mix,                                                               
Diversification reduces  risk," which  showed the  energy sources                                                               
used by Chugach Electric.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TRISH BAKER  continued with slide 5, titled  "What Chugach is                                                               
doing to  address gas  supply," which  read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Continue investing in Beluga River Unit gas field                                                                          
     Progressing with imported LNG                                                                                              
     Expanding our renewable energy portfolio                                                                                   
     Advancing energy storage solutions                                                                                         
     Supporting regional power sharing                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. T.  BAKER moved to  slide 6  and explained that  Chugach sees                                                               
imported  LNG   as  a  bridge   solution  and   referenced  other                                                               
possibilities for the  future.  She emphasized  the importance of                                                               
a firm contract for any of  the potential solutions.  In response                                                               
to questions from Representative  Costello regarding slide 6, she                                                               
explained that it  did not depict an actual place  but rather was                                                               
an artistic  AI illustration.   In  reference to  whether Chugach                                                               
was  pursuing  its  own facility  separate  from  the  governor's                                                               
proposal, she pointed out that such information is confidential.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:18:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  T. BAKER  responding to  questions from  Representative Kopp                                                               
and   Representative  Costello,   clarified   that  Chugach   was                                                               
aggressively pursuing its needs and  would be considering a range                                                               
of energy  solutions.   She explained that  the Dixon  project is                                                               
projected to come on-line in  2030.  She resumed the presentation                                                               
with  slide  7,  titled  "Breakdown of  Chugach  Retail  Electric                                                               
Bill,"  which detailed  cost estimates  of imported  LNG; Hilcorp                                                               
natural gas; Beluga River natural  gas; Renewables; and the costs                                                               
of power plants, transmission, and distribution.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:20:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  T. BAKER  directed  the committee's  attention  to slide  9,                                                               
titled  "90-mile  Transmission  Upgrade,  Mid-town  Anchorage  to                                                               
Quartz Creek - Kenai Peninsula,"  which read as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transmission lines built in 1962                                                                                           
     Project: 2012 - 2032, section by section                                                                                   
     115 kV lines upgrading to 230 kV (kilovolts)                                                                               
     Reduce line loss; increase power transferability                                                                           
     Anchoring structures also being upgraded                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. T.  BAKER moved  to slide 10,  titled "Chugach  supports GRIP                                                               
upgrades,  Grid Resilience  and  Innovation Partnerships,"  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     $206.5 million grant from the Department of Energy is                                                                      
     half the estimated project cost of $413 million                                                                            
     High Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) cable from Nikiski                                                                      
     to Beluga                                                                                                                  
        Project will add capacity for access to low cost                                                                        
     energy and ensure reliable electric service                                                                                
     Project also includes Battery Energy Storage Systems                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:22:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. T.  BAKER concluded her  presentation with  slides describing                                                               
Chugach's  approach  to   decarbonization  and  renewable  energy                                                               
featured  on  slides  12,  13,  and 14,  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Decarbonization Objective                                                                                                  
     Reduce Carbon Intensity                                                                                                    
     at least 35% by 2030                                                                                                       
     at least 50% by 2040                                                                                                       
         without a material negative impact on rates or                                                                         
     reliability                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Community Solar Project                                                                                                    
     500-kilowatt installation                                                                                                  
     1,080 panels                                                                                                               
     Subscriptions for 1 to 20 panels                                                                                           
     Energy credited to Chugach bill                                                                                            
     Currently under construction                                                                                               
     Completion estimated Summer 2025                                                                                           
     RCA approval of tariff required before enrollments can                                                                     
     open                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Dixon Diversion                                                                                                            
     Meltwater from Dixon Glacier would be diverted through                                                                     
     a tunnel to Bradley Lake                                                                                                   
     Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project dam would be raised                                                                     
     to accommodate extra water                                                                                                 
      50% additional energy would be added to Bradley Lake                                                                      
     Hydroelectric Project                                                                                                      
       Project would reduce demand for natural gas by 1.5                                                                       
     bcf/year                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:25:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL   STAMM,   President   &  CEO,   Alaska   Village   Electric                                                               
Cooperative,  participated in  the Alaska  Utilities presentation                                                               
and  showed   a  PowerPoint,  titled  "Alaska   Village  Electric                                                               
Cooperative, A Cooperative, But  Different" (copy included in the                                                               
committee packet).   He  discussed the  membership of  the Alaska                                                               
Village  Electric Cooperative  (AVEC)  board  and introduced  the                                                               
first  female board  member  who  has been  serving  for over  40                                                               
years.   He called the  committee members' attention to  slide 2,                                                               
featuring  a map  of Alaska  which highlighted  AVEC communities.                                                               
He moved  to slide 3 with  photos that showed some  of the unique                                                               
challenges of dealing with power in rural Alaska                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:32:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   STAMM  discussed   the  power   generation  in   the  rural                                                               
communities.   He described differences between  AVEC communities                                                               
and the Railbelt, pointing out  that Railbelt power generation is                                                               
measured  in megawatts  but the  AVEC  communities measure  power                                                               
generation in  kilowatts.   He showed slides  4 through  7, which                                                               
showed photos  of New Stuyahok  living facilities, a  rural power                                                               
plant,  the   Native  Store  in  Shaktoolik,   and  shipments  of                                                               
materials.   He  explained that  AVEC has  been integrating  wind                                                               
since 2000.   The next slide was titled  "Alaska Village Electric                                                               
Cooperative, Energizing  Rural Alaska  since 1968."   It  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Nonprofit 501(c)12 -Electric Cooperative                                                                                 
     • 58 Rural Communities, 31,000+ Residents                                                                                  
     • 46 Power Plants, 160 Diesel Generators                                                                                   
     • 9.3M Gallons of Diesel in 2023 ($43.8)                                                                                   
     • 525 miles of Distribution Lines                                                                                          
         • 13 Wind Sites, 33 Wind Turbines, Serving 22                                                                          
     Communities                                                                                                                
     • $74.0M Annual Revenue                                                                                                    
     • 2023 Total Electricity Sold 126.3 MWh                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STAMM described  the graphs  on slides  10 through  12 which                                                               
illustrated the relative size of  communities by meter count, the                                                               
relative  cost of  rural  power consumption,  and  the costs  per                                                               
kilowatt-hour sold.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:45:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM  moved to  slide 13  and slide  14 which  described how                                                               
fuel is  delivered to  communities, the  associated difficulties,                                                               
and the  2024 delivered fuel costs.   The slides read  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Fuel Delivery:                                                                                                             
     • Typically, May-Oct                                                                                                       
      • Lighterage Barges fill from Tankers and deliver to                                                                      
     coastal and river communities                                                                                              
     • Bulk Fuel Storage, strive for 14 month's supply.                                                                         
     • Some communities are Fly-in only                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Difficulties:                                                                                                              
     • Cost                                                                                                                     
     • Aging infrastructure                                                                                                     
     • Limited Suppliers                                                                                                        
     • Weather                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Barge Delivery:                                                                                                            
     $3.50 to $4.50 per gallon                                                                                                  
     Air Delivery:                                                                                                              
     $10.00 to $11.00 per gallon                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM, in  response to a question  from Representative Mears,                                                               
explained  that  projects   incorporating  renewables  have  been                                                               
hugely beneficial, but they are  not a total solution.  Renewable                                                               
energy  has the  potential of  greatly reducing  the reliance  on                                                               
diesel so that they are  "sipping diesel fuel instead of drinking                                                               
it by the  cupful."  He described the chart  on slide 15, showing                                                               
the amount  of diesel used when  it is the sole  source of energy                                                               
compared  to a  combination of  diesel and  wind.   He segued  to                                                               
slide  16  which  showed  a timeline  of  AVEC  renewable  energy                                                               
projects from 1999 to 2023.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:51:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM described the photos  on slide 17, titled "Logistics of                                                               
Material  Delivery," which  showed the  challenges of  delivering                                                               
equipment.   He shared a  personal anecdote and talked  about how                                                               
critical a power loss can be in the rural communities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:56:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM explained Power Cost  Equalization (PCE), showing slide                                                               
18, titled  "How Does PCE  Work?" which showed a  graph regarding                                                               
PCE  costs  and a  comparison  of  costs  which read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       PCE "FLOOR" = Average cost of power for Anchorage                                                                        
     Fairbanks and Juneau ($0.1992 for FY 2025)                                                                                 
     PCE pays down 95% of the Difference between rural cost                                                                     
     of power and PCE floor.                                                                                                    
     Only for Residential and Community Facilities                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM  responded to a  question from  Representative Costello                                                               
regarding how  the PCE adjustment  is shown on  customers' bills.                                                               
He  then moved  to  slide 19  and slide  20  which showed  graphs                                                               
illustrating  the impact  of PCE  and how  it relates  to heating                                                               
buildings.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:59:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STAMM showed slide 21,  titled " Why is electricity expensive                                                               
in  rural Alaska?"  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  Small population    AVEC's  average village  is ~400                                                                    
     people                                                                                                                     
     • Small loads   AVEC's average village load is ~160 kW                                                                     
     • No economies of scale,  which in turn limits economic                                                                    
     growth                                                                                                                     
     (Expensive power = Less consumption= Expensive power)                                                                      
     •  Utilities  are  capital intensive,  and  capital  is                                                                    
     expensive                                                                                                                  
     •  Isolated  systems  - reliability  relies  on  (self)                                                                    
     redundancy                                                                                                                 
     • Remote  and difficult  to access,  transportation and                                                                    
     freight is expensive                                                                                                       
     • Fuel is expensive    delivery and storage costs often                                                                    
     exceeds diesel purchase cost                                                                                               
     •  Operations   and  maintenance  is   more  expensive,                                                                    
     freight, travel, lodging, it all adds up                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In summary, the final slide addressed AVEC strategies to reduce                                                                 
power cost and read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Improve generation efficiency whenever possible                                                                            
     Minimize distribution losses whenever possible                                                                             
     Interconnect villages to improve economies of scale                                                                        
     Add  renewable  generation  and  energy  storage  where                                                                    
     economically feasible                                                                                                      
     Capture and sell recovered heat and excess wind energy                                                                     
     Promote energy education, workforce development                                                                            
     Support economic growth in communities we serve                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:02:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1. HEA_presentation.pdf HENE 2/4/2025 1:00:00 PM
2. GVEA Presentation to H Eng Cmte 2.4.2025.pdf HENE 2/4/2025 1:00:00 PM
3. Presentation MEA HEN 2.4.25.pdf HENE 2/4/2025 1:00:00 PM
4. Chugach_House Energy Committee Feb. 2025-compressed.pdf HENE 2/4/2025 1:00:00 PM
5. AVEC_2025 House Energy.pdf HENE 2/4/2025 1:00:00 PM