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03/21/2013 11:15 AM House ECON. DEV., TRADE & TOURISM


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11:20:03 AM Presentations(s): Unmanned Aircraft Systems
12:38:12 PM Adjourn
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Ro Bailey, Deputy Director, Alaska Center for
Unmanned Aircraft Systems Integration - RDT&E
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TRADE AND                                                                 
                            TOURISM                                                                                           
                         March 21, 2013                                                                                         
                           11:19 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Shelley Hughes, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Pete Higgins                                                                                                     
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Doug Isaacson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
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PRESENTATIONS(S):  UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RO BAILEY, Deputy Director                                                                                                      
Alaska Center for Unmanned Aircraft Systems Integration,                                                                        
Research, Development, Testing and Evaluation (ACUASI)                                                                          
Geophysical Institute                                                                                                           
University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF)                                                                                            
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                       
entitled, "Unmanned Aircraft Systems for Alaska."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHELLEY  HUGHES  called the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Economic  Development,  Trade and  Tourism  meeting  to order  at                                                               
11:19  a.m.    Representatives  Gattis,  Higgins,  Drummond,  and                                                               
Hughes were present  at the call to order.   Representatives Tarr                                                               
and   Pruitt   arrived   as  the   meeting   was   in   progress.                                                               
Representatives Thompson and Isaacson were also present.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:19:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATIONS(S):  UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS                                                                                   
          PRESENTATIONS(S):  UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
11:20:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
a presentation on unmanned aircraft  systems.  She provided brief                                                               
background  information on  her interest  in this  technology and                                                               
advised  she  would be  introducing  a  related House  Concurrent                                                               
Resolution in the near future.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:21:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RO BAILEY,  Deputy Director, Alaska Center  for Unmanned Aircraft                                                               
Systems   Integration,   Research,   Development,   Testing   and                                                               
Evaluation (ACUASI), Geophysical  Institute, University of Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF),  said she  will introduce  some of  the projects                                                               
UAF has  been working  on for  almost 13  years and  will explain                                                               
their  purpose  and  their  importance  to  Alaska.    Also,  her                                                               
presentation will  include a  proposal to  designate Alaska  as a                                                               
test  site for  the Federal  Aviation Administration  (FAA), U.S.                                                               
Department of  Transportation, privacy  issues, and  the upcoming                                                               
resolution [slide 2].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:23:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A video was presented from 11:23 a.m. to 11:29 a.m.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:29:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY explained two of the  launches shown on the video were                                                               
regretted  because difficult  weather  conditions  risked a  safe                                                               
recovery.    She noted  UAF's  efforts  have  been to  learn  and                                                               
benefit from  the technology related  to unmanned aircraft.   The                                                               
history of  the project began in  2001 when UAF was  working with                                                               
New  Mexico   State  University   seeking  to   develop  civilian                                                               
applications for  unmanned aircraft.  Since  then, the university                                                               
has received  funding from  the U.S. Air  Force (USAF),  the U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard  (USCG), and  other  organizations,  and acquired  a                                                               
ScanEagle aircraft in 2006.   The ScanEagle is a 40-pound, fixed-                                                               
wing, gas-powered aircraft  with the ability to fly  for 22 hours                                                               
up  to 23,000  feet  in altitude.   The  Scout  aircraft has  the                                                               
ability to fly for 20 minutes up  to 1,200 feet in altitude.  The                                                               
ACUASI  missions  have  expanded  to  include  science  projects,                                                               
emergency   response,   humanitarian   needs,   and   engineering                                                               
development,  and  have  advanced  the  capabilities  of  systems                                                               
through payload development and integration  [slide 3].  The goal                                                               
of  ACUASI is  to meet  Alaska's  needs using  the technology  it                                                               
develops with a  focus on working with state  agencies and Alaska                                                               
companies and  communities.   The Scout flew  in Nome  during the                                                               
delivery of fuel to assist in  determining where to lay hose, and                                                               
flew in Bethel on an emergency  response exercise [slide 4].  Ms.                                                               
Bailey said that  UAF has brought to the state  over $4.5 million                                                               
through  competitive  grants  and   contracts  with  private  and                                                               
federal agencies.   The  state funded $5  million in  last year's                                                               
capital budget for the purpose  of growing ACUASI and for seeking                                                               
designation as  a FAA test  site.  In  the last two  and one-half                                                               
years, there  have been three  small company start-ups;  in fact,                                                               
two aerospace companies are opening  offices in Fairbanks to work                                                               
with UAF,  one of which  is the Atkinson Robotics  and Technology                                                               
Integration Corporation (ARTIC) [slide 6].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:34:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES  added that two  companies in  the Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
area have expressed interest in this field.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY surmised one of the  companies may be ATI.  In further                                                               
response to  Chair Hughes, she  said the university  has received                                                               
funding for work  done for BP Exploration (Alaska)  Inc. (BP) and                                                               
Chevron Corporation.   There  has also  been interest  from other                                                               
governments such as Iceland and  Finland.  Other work is expected                                                               
for ADS-B Technologies in Anchorage,  and Lockheed Martin's Skunk                                                               
Works   (Advanced   Development   Programs)  has   an   exclusive                                                               
partnership.  Interest is growing very fast.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON asked for  the current status of airspace                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:37:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY explained  to fly  an unmanned  aircraft in  national                                                               
airspace one must be a  public entity established and accepted by                                                               
FAA.   To do so, Alaska's  attorney general verified that  UAF is                                                               
an  instrumentality  of the  state.    Also,  UAF applied  for  a                                                               
certificate of  authorization or waiver  to the normal  rules for                                                               
flying  in the  national airspace.   Over  time, UAF  has had  50                                                               
waivers approved,  and has flown in  military restricted airspace                                                               
by  obtaining  access  through  Range  Control  of  the  military                                                               
installation.  The university has  established a partnership with                                                               
the Joint Pacific Alaska Range  Complex (JPARC) for access to the                                                               
range.    To  get  a certificate  of  authority  (COA),  specific                                                               
information is  provided to FAA on  each flight, and a  notice to                                                               
airmen is published  48 hours in advance.  Before  and after each                                                               
flight, UAF notifies the airports in Anchorage and Fairbanks.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:41:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON surmised this  ability will help with the                                                               
commercialization of the university's work.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY agreed,  however, UAF  does not  have the  ability to                                                               
file a  flight plan and  proceed with a flight.   This is  due to                                                               
safety  concerns   and  she  assured  the   committee  ACUASI  is                                                               
dedicated to  the development of  rules that are  adequate, well-                                                               
tested, and thoroughly evaluated.   Established procedures should                                                               
be that operators  are rigorously trained and  certified, and the                                                               
flying vehicle is safe for  flying.  She opined unmanned aircraft                                                               
flight should  not be  open to  non-public entities  until safety                                                               
procedures  are  established  and  approved.   Returning  to  the                                                               
presentation, Ms.  Bailey said  UAF has over  50 partners  in and                                                               
outside  of Alaska  working  on the  FAA  test site  designation.                                                               
Other areas  in which the project  is expected to bring  value to                                                               
the  state  are through  future  search  and rescue  missions  in                                                               
remote  areas and  infrastructure monitoring  for the  purpose of                                                               
critical assessment  and mapping in  advance of a disaster.   For                                                               
example,  if  the  buildings  in   Cordova  had  been  previously                                                               
assessed with 3D  mapping, it would have been  known whether they                                                               
were able to withstand the record snow load last winter.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:46:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES  asked whether unmanned  aircraft have been  used to                                                               
monitor the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY responded  not yet; however, UAF has  a funded project                                                               
with  BP to  develop a  sensor to  detect escaping  gasses around                                                               
drilling stations  that would indicate  a leak.   The goal  is to                                                               
identify what sensors are needed  to detect the different gasses,                                                               
in order  to locate leaks early  enough to eliminate the  need to                                                               
send a human into a  possibly dangerous environment.  However, at                                                               
this  time,  flights  near  TAPS  are  prohibited.    In  further                                                               
response to  Chair Hughes, she  said a proposal is  underway with                                                               
the Department of Transportation  & Public Facilities to complete                                                               
3D mapping  in order to  establish changes over time  in unstable                                                               
areas.   In 2010,  UAF flew unmanned  aircraft during  the Arctic                                                               
Edge  simulated  earthquake  scenario to  assess  overpasses  and                                                               
bridges without risk to an engineer [slides 7 and 8].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:49:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  asked  about  the range  of  the  Scout                                                               
aircraft.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY said the Scout has a  20 minute flight time with a top                                                               
speed of 31 knots.  The  ScanEagle can fly 22 hours; the distance                                                               
away from  the controller is  limited by radio  line-of-sight and                                                               
the FAA  rule of  visual line-of-sight.   In further  response to                                                               
Representative  Isaacson,  she   described  the  National  Marine                                                               
Fisheries    Service,    National   Oceanic    and    Atmospheric                                                               
Administration, closure  of the  fishery in the  Aleutian Islands                                                               
that  was  based  on  limited   data  acquired  by  one  week  of                                                               
assessments  on the  number  of  Stellar sea  lions.   After  UAF                                                               
collected three weeks of data  counting sea lions, and biologists                                                               
determined that  the sea  lions are  the same  as those  found in                                                               
ample  numbers in  Southeast Alaska,  the  North Pacific  Fishery                                                               
Management Council used the data  to prove that Stellar sea lions                                                               
are not endangered [slide 14].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  inquired as  to  what  factor made  the                                                               
unmanned  aircraft data  more successful  than  other methods  of                                                               
observation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY explained  that  manned aircraft  could  not see  the                                                               
entire  Aleutian  Islands  chain,   and  weather  conditions  and                                                               
distance  interfere with  accurate  observation from  satellites.                                                               
The Scout flew  from a boat under the weather  and collected data                                                               
over  a longer  period of  time at  much less  cost.   In further                                                               
response   to   Representative   Isaacson,   she   said   another                                                               
application would be to count polar bears.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS asked for flight details.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY restated  that the  Scout  flies for  20 minutes  but                                                               
there are efforts  to develop new batteries that  will extend the                                                               
flight time.  In further  response to Representative Higgins, she                                                               
said the Scout is controlled by a  base station; if on a boat, or                                                               
with  permission in  restricted airspace,  the ScanEagle  can fly                                                               
five miles from the base  station.  Restrictions to line-of-sight                                                               
are based on the lack of "sense and avoid" technology.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES asked  whether this  technology  will be  available                                                               
soon.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:55:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY expressed  her belief  that  the solution  will be  a                                                               
combination of  techniques.   The technology  is based  on risks,                                                               
such  as the  risk of  bringing  down a  high altitude  aircraft,                                                               
which can be addressed by  an altitude limit on unmanned aircraft                                                               
of 400 feet.  Higher flyers  need radar systems or the ability to                                                               
communicate  via  transponder.   The  ability  to detect  another                                                               
aircraft from an unmanned aircraft is not available.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked for clarification.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY answered  the  sense and  avoid  technology is  about                                                               
detecting other aircraft.   The Scout is  autonomous for landing,                                                               
except  under   certain  conditions  like  landing   on  a  boat.                                                               
Currently,  hand   piloting  is  responsible  for   avoidance  of                                                               
obstacles at landing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:58:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES  asked whether  FAA will require  a second  pilot on                                                               
the ground.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY advised a pilot and  an observer are required now.  In                                                               
further response  to Chair Hughes,  she said currently  a general                                                               
aviation license is  required for a pilot to fly  above 400 feet,                                                               
but training on  the individual system and on how  to work in the                                                               
airspace is  what is  most important.   In further  response, she                                                               
said FAA  is going  to release rules  on small  unmanned aircraft                                                               
which are defined  as either under 55 pounds or  under 25 pounds.                                                               
The  aviation  community considers  55  pounds  and under  small,                                                               
because  aircraft  above that  weight  require  runways and  "air                                                               
force-level  stuff."   The ScanEagle  is a  40-pound, fixed-wing,                                                               
10-foot wing span, catapult-launched aircraft.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES  asked whether universities are  offering courses in                                                               
this field.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY  indicated that the  University of North Dakota  has a                                                               
training program  for operators  and UAF  is allocating  funds to                                                               
education and  outreach on the  engineering side.   She suggested                                                               
an  operator class  may be  offered at  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage (UAA)  because they already  have pilot training.   She                                                               
returned to  the reasons  to use unmanned  aircraft and  said its                                                               
use  is to  do work  that is  "dirty, dull,  or dangerous."   For                                                               
example, Alaska has remote, extreme  terrain and volatile weather                                                               
conditions and  unmanned aircraft  are ideal for  collecting data                                                               
under  risky conditions;  dirty work  includes observations  over                                                               
chemical spills,  volcanoes, and  wildfire smoke; and  mapping is                                                               
dull  work, involving  taking tens  of  thousands of  photographs                                                               
along a grid  pattern [slide 8].  Alaska offers  the program vast                                                               
airspace  with little  traffic;  access to  military ranges  with                                                               
data  gathering ability;  and a  history  of pioneering  aviation                                                               
technology and thoughtful  policy decisions [slide 9].   She said                                                               
ACUASI's job is  to determine how this technology is  used and to                                                               
ensure  it is  used  properly for  the benefit  of  Alaska.   The                                                               
mission is  to establish  a research  center for  small, unmanned                                                               
aircraft  systems providing  integration of  unique payloads  and                                                               
supporting  pathfinder  missions  within government  and  science                                                               
communities,  with  a  special  emphasis  on  the  Arctic  region                                                               
[slides 10 and 11].                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:06:13 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY  described an  ice seal  population study  and pointed                                                               
out  that the  seals were  not  frightened away  by the  unmanned                                                               
aircraft - as they are by  helicopters - which resulted in a more                                                               
accurate  count  [slides  13-15].    During  the  Crazy  Mountain                                                               
Complex Wildfires in 2009, manned  aviation was unable to fly for                                                               
five  days due  to smoke  so  the unmanned  aircraft located  the                                                               
boundaries of the fires, whether  structures were threatened, and                                                               
behavior of the fire at night  [slide 16].  Along the Snake River                                                               
and Clearwater River  in Idaho manned aircraft cannot  fly in the                                                               
canyons and  salmon spawning redds  were located by  the unmanned                                                               
aircraft  [slides 17-19].   A  comparison of  a satellite  and an                                                               
unmanned aircraft  picture of fish  habitat was  displayed [slide                                                               
20].   Ms.  Bailey  described a  Prescribed  Fire Combustion  and                                                               
Atmospheric  Dynamics Research  Experiment (Rx-CADRE)  in Florida                                                               
[slide  21].   The  Bear  Bite-SAREX  mass casualty  exercise  in                                                               
Bethel   demonstrated   the    aircraft's   search   and   rescue                                                               
capabilities in extreme cold  temperatures [slides 22-24]. Images                                                               
from   the  Shoreline   Clean-up   Assessment  Technique   (SCAT)                                                               
Evaluation for BP were shown.   The purpose of this mapping is to                                                               
record the  condition of the  shoreline before it is  impacted by                                                               
an oil spill [slide 26].  Also for  BP, work has been done on oil                                                               
infrastructure   monitoring  [slide   27].     Another   possible                                                               
application is to  assist ships piloting through ice  to locate a                                                               
pathway [slides  28-30].  During  the winter Nome  fuel delivery,                                                               
the  unmanned aircraft  provided  guidance on  where  to lay  the                                                               
hose, monitored  for polar bears  and open leads,  and documented                                                               
the  site [slide  31].    The university  has  developed a  radar                                                               
system known  as iPASS to  monitor airspace; the system  has been                                                               
certified by  the National  Aeronautics and  Space Administration                                                               
(NASA) for use during rocket  launch operations and was funded by                                                               
FAA [slide  32].   Ms. Bailey said  ongoing projects  include the                                                               
detection  of  marine  debris  generated  by  the  2011  Japanese                                                               
tsunami and the Marginal Ice  Zone Ocean and Ice Observations and                                                               
Processes  EXperiment (MIZOPEX)  for NASA  and NOAA  to encourage                                                               
FAA to allow  multiple aircraft to fly  over international waters                                                               
[slides  33 and  34].   Work done  for the  Department of  Public                                                               
Safety  (DPS) included  a  demonstration of  the  Scout, and  she                                                               
described how unmanned  aircraft could be used  by state troopers                                                               
[slide 35].   The most  recent project  is an oil  spill response                                                               
exercise  along the  Columbia River  estuary in  Washington State                                                               
[slide 36].   Another unique ACUASI capability is  the ability to                                                               
collect  information in  extremely  remote areas  [slides 37  and                                                               
38].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:18:40 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY  returned  to  the  subject  of  the  FAA  test  site                                                               
application, explaining that FAA has  been directed to select six                                                               
test  sites to  research and  test  for the  safe integration  of                                                               
unmanned aircraft  into airspace.   The  university is  leading a                                                               
team that has submitted the  first of multiple proposals required                                                               
prior  to  the  selection  date  of 12/31/13  [slide  39].    The                                                               
proposed test  site is known  as the  Pan Pacific UAS  Test Range                                                               
Complex, and has  specified fourteen test ranges  within the test                                                               
site  in  Alaska,  Oregon,  and   Hawaii  [slide  40].    Turning                                                               
attention  to  the  subject  of   privacy,  she  said  ACUASI  is                                                               
dedicated  to ensuring  that  privacy is  protected  so that  the                                                               
beneficial  uses of  the technology  are not  blocked.   Although                                                               
this is  a new technology,  many rules for manned  aviation apply                                                               
to unmanned aviation.   Furthermore, the Fourth  Amendment to the                                                               
U.S.  Constitution  has  accommodated privacy  issues  associated                                                               
with new  technology such as  portable cameras,  manned aviation,                                                               
and  paparazzi,  by statutory  provisions  and  case law  on  the                                                               
expectation of  and right  to privacy.   Ms.  Bailey acknowledged                                                               
that  although many  issues have  been addressed,  others require                                                               
appropriate procedures  that are  unique to unmanned  aircraft to                                                               
protect  privacy.    The National  Institute  for  Justice,  U.S.                                                               
Department  of  Justice,  and the  U.S.  Department  of  Homeland                                                               
Security are committed to defining  specific rules at the federal                                                               
level.    Also,  FAA  is  anticipating  privacy  issues  will  be                                                               
addressed along  with the test  site policies.  In  addition, the                                                               
U.S. Department of  Defense and the National  Guard have training                                                               
guidelines  in  place  regarding   current  rules  for  gathering                                                               
intelligence [slide 41].                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:24:51 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  recalled  procedures by  the  U.S.  Air                                                               
Force that  required the destruction of  recordings of Americans'                                                               
voices.  Since  [the terrorist attacks of September  11, 2001] he                                                               
heard  spying  on Americans  was  permitted.     He  asked,  "...                                                               
whether  or  not Alaskans  need  to  be  afraid of  having  these                                                               
devices being  used as  spy, you know,  the government  spying on                                                               
us."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY said:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     From our  viewpoint the  Congress and  the intelligence                                                                    
     committee rules on these things  in the sense that they                                                                    
     establish what  are the  provisions that  the military,                                                                    
     which is who is guided  by this from my own experience,                                                                    
     but I don't believe it's  just the military, that is my                                                                    
     own experience and all I'm  willing to speak to on, but                                                                    
     the   military  is   still   actively  training   about                                                                    
     destroying tapes  just as, whether  it's voice  tape or                                                                    
     visual,  about  the  separation  between  domestic  and                                                                    
     foreign.    [The  Posse  Comitatus  Act]  is  still  in                                                                    
     existence  and that,  posse comitatus  is the  specific                                                                    
     rule that  says that  the military  cannot be  used for                                                                    
     domestic police  work ... so,  where they've  wanted to                                                                    
     use military technology in support  of some kind of, is                                                                    
     mostly drugs,  is where it  has been used  mostly, Gulf                                                                    
     of Mexico  area and south  where drugs are  coming into                                                                    
     the country.   They've  had to  have other  agencies on                                                                    
     board, and  that's all  of who  is actually  allowed to                                                                    
     collect information  or anything; so from  the military                                                                    
     perspective, that  privacy is rigorously  protected and                                                                    
     the  separation   between  domestic  and   overseas  or                                                                    
     foreign operations  is rigorously defined,  and they're                                                                    
     actively training on it.  ... They're literally putting                                                                    
     a program together  for our team so that we  can go out                                                                    
     with them  and be properly  trained.  The  [Uniting and                                                                    
     Strengthening  America by  Providing Appropriate  Tools                                                                    
     Required  to Intercept  and Obstruct  Terrorism Act  of                                                                    
     2001  (the  Patriot  Act)] is,  I  think,  what  you're                                                                    
     referring to,  is rules that  were changed  after 9/ll,                                                                    
     that is an  act of Congress and did  change some rules,                                                                    
     and I'm not qualified or prepared at the moment to go                                                                      
     into detail on that sort of thing ...                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:28:40 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES pointed out that Congress is looking at this topic.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAILEY noted  that  the  full text  of  guidelines from  the                                                               
International  Association of  Chiefs  of Police  on  the use  of                                                               
unmanned  aircraft  for  law  enforcement   is  included  in  the                                                               
committee packet.   She  reviewed some  of the  guidelines [slide                                                               
42].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  understood that  some  of  the appointees  to  the                                                               
proposed  task force  will be  working on  state policy  over the                                                               
summer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY  concurred and  added that a  group that  includes the                                                               
lieutenant governor  is working  on that policy.   She  turned to                                                               
the  issue of  weapons  on unmanned  aircraft,  saying there  are                                                               
media scares about  weapons because the public  image of unmanned                                                               
aircraft comes  from what  the military is  doing overseas.   The                                                               
military is using unmanned aircraft  that carry weapons; however,                                                               
the  unmanned  aircraft community  is  totally  against this  use                                                               
because it would  destroy the possibility of beneficial  use.  In                                                               
addition,  most unmanned  aircraft  cannot carry  the weight  [of                                                               
weapons], and FAA  prohibits weapons and the  dropping of objects                                                               
from  manned  or  unmanned  aircraft.     Finally,  this  use  is                                                               
unacceptable to the public [slide 43].                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT asked  about using  unmanned aircraft  for                                                               
avalanche control.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:33:24 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY stated that the  first consideration for expanded uses                                                               
of  unmanned aircraft  is where  there are  other means  to do  a                                                               
task, do not use unmanned aircraft.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAILEY observed the upcoming  legislation recognizes the hard                                                               
work being  done at UAF always  with the goal to  benefit Alaska.                                                               
The impression  of danger  will be  absolved by  approaching this                                                               
technology in a methodical and thoughtful way [slide 44].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  said  the development  of  this  technology  holds                                                               
potential for Alaska in new jobs because of commercial interest.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:38:12 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Economic Development, Trade and Tourism                                                                    
meeting was adjourned at 12:38 p.m.                                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AUVSI Code of Conduct.pdf HEDT 3/21/2013 11:15:00 AM
IACP_UAGuidelines.pdf HEDT 3/21/2013 11:15:00 AM
History & Value of UAS to Alaska.pdf HEDT 3/21/2013 11:15:00 AM