Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

03/19/2025 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:05:34 AM Presentation(s): School Maintenance and Construction
09:59:54 AM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 19, 2025                                                                                         
                           8:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rebecca Himschoot, Co-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Andi Story, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Maxine Dibert                                                                                                    
Representative Ted Eischeid                                                                                                     
Representative Jubilee Underwood                                                                                                
Representative Rebecca Schwanke                                                                                                 
Representative Bill Elam                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): SCHOOL MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LORI WEED, School Finance Manager                                                                                               
Division of School Finance & Facilities                                                                                         
Department of Education & Early Development                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a presentation titled "Capitol Needs                                                                
for School Facilities".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BUTIKOFER                                                                                                               
Technical Engineer 1, Division of School Finance & Facilities,                                                                  
Department of Education & Early Development                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered committee questions on the                                                                      
presentation titled "Capitol Needs for School Facilities".                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. LISA PARADY, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Council of School Administrators & Superintendents                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a  presentation titled "School District                                                             
Major Maintenance"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AUDRA FINKENBINDER, Superintendent                                                                                              
Southwest School District                                                                                                       
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a  presentation titled "School District                                                             
Major Maintenance"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MADELINE AGUILLARD,                                                                                                             
Superintendent, Kuspuk School District                                                                                          
Aniak, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a  presentation titled "School District                                                             
Major Maintenance"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT called the  House Education Standing Committee                                                               
meeting  to   order  at  8:04  a.m.   Representatives  Himschoot,                                                               
Schwanke,  Dibert,  Elam,  Underwood,  Eischeid  and  Story  were                                                               
present at the call to order.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): School Maintenance and Construction                                                                           
      PRESENTATION(S): School Maintenance and Construction                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
8:05:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would   be  a   presentation  titled   "School  Maintenance   and                                                               
Construction".                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:06:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORI WEED, School  Finance Manager, Division of  School Finance &                                                               
Facilities, Department  of Education & Early  Development, gave a                                                               
presentation titled  "Capitol Needs for School  Facilities".  She                                                               
began  on slide  3, which  highlighted the  Alaska Department  of                                                               
Education and  Early Development  (DEED)'s   strategic priorities                                                               
as an  executive agency.   She moved  to slide 4,  which outlined                                                               
the current  funding mechanisms  being utilized  by the  DEED for                                                               
school maintenance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:10:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT  asked how  the Regional  Education Attendance                                                               
Area (REAA) fund is indexed and  asked if there are "funds in the                                                               
funds".                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  answered that the  REAA fund  would be diminished  by a                                                               
governor's  veto of  education funding  and explained  that there                                                               
are  small  allocations  within  the  REAA  to  direct  funds  in                                                               
specific directions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:11:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ELAM  asked  Ms.   Weed  to  further  detail  the                                                               
Municipal School District School Fund.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED answered  that both  the REAA  funds and  the Municipal                                                               
School District  School Funds are  put together  in a fund  to be                                                               
implemented in school maintenance.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:14:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  resumed the  presentation on  slide 5,  which described                                                               
the different  types of  school maintenance  "project categories"                                                               
as they  are classified within the  DEED.  She moved  to slide 6,                                                               
which  detailed  how  a school  construction/maintenance  project                                                               
could become  eligible for the Capital  Improvement Project (CIP)                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:16:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHWANKE  asked  how often  school  districts  in                                                               
Alaska are participating in the CIP program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED  explained  that  certain  school  districts  are  more                                                               
involved in  the CIP program than  others and said that  there is                                                               
roughly a 60 percent participation rate within the CIP.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:20:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY asked  how expensive  it  might be  for a  school                                                               
district to  put forward a  6-year CIP and  asked how long  a CIP                                                               
project cost estimate is valid for.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  answered that the DEED  provides a "range of  tools" to                                                               
school  districts so  that they  may successfully  obtain funding                                                               
from  the  CIP  program.    She explained  that  there  are  many                                                               
different projects  at many different stages  of development with                                                               
differing ages of cost estimates.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:23:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED resumed  the  presentation on  slide  7, which  further                                                               
detailed  how   a  school  district  might   become  eligible  to                                                               
participate in  the CIP  program.   She moved  to slide  8, which                                                               
emphasized the four  qualities that a project must  meet in order                                                               
to be  eligible for  the CIP  program and  continued to  slide 9,                                                               
which displayed a graph that  highlighted the overall CIP program                                                               
participation and  eligibility statistics since Fiscal  Year 2016                                                               
(FY16).  She  moved to slide 10, which outlined  the total number                                                               
of  CIP-eligible  projects  and  the  actual  amount  of  dollars                                                               
associated with each  project.  She continued to  slide 11, which                                                               
detailed  the total  amount of  CIP dollars  requested for  FY26.                                                               
She moved to slide 12, which  displayed a table that outlined the                                                               
total amount  of dollars requested within  school districts' six-                                                               
year plans.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:29:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE UNDERWOOD asked  Ms. Weed to for the  names of the                                                               
school districts that received CIP funding.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  answered that  she could  follow-up with  the requested                                                               
information later.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:30:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE  asked if a school  district's likelihood                                                               
of  receiving  CIP  funding  is  based  off  of  how  well  their                                                               
application is completed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT asked  about  the current  state of  staffing                                                               
within the DEED.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED answered  that the  success of  a school  districts CIP                                                               
application is  based off  of a number  of differing  factors and                                                               
said  that there  are about  five  staff members  working in  the                                                               
facilities section of DEED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:33:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY asked  how the CIP applications  are evaluated and                                                               
awarded and asked if DEED ever makes visits to project sites.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:33:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  BUTIKOFER,  Technical  Engineer 1,  Division  of  School                                                               
Finance   &  Facilities,   Department   of   Education  &   Early                                                               
Development,  answered committee  questions  on the  presentation                                                               
titled "Capitol Needs  for School Facilities".   He answered that                                                               
DEED made 5 site visits in fiscal  year (FY) 2024 and said that 2                                                               
more  are planned.   He  explained that  the DEED  does not  make                                                               
district  visits based  on outstanding  CIP applications,  rather                                                               
they visit  school districts  every 5 years  to ensure  that they                                                               
meet  the   criteria  of  the  DEED's   preventative  maintenance                                                               
programs.   He said that the  DEED takes effort in  informing and                                                               
training school districts on how to qualify for CIP projects.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED added  that  there are  approximately  436 main  school                                                               
facilities under the DEED's facility database.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:40:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  resumed the  presentation on  slide 10,  which outlined                                                               
the total number  of CIP-eligible projects and  the actual amount                                                               
of dollars associated with each  project.  She continued to slide                                                               
11, which detailed the total  amount of CIP dollars requested for                                                               
FY26.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:43:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SCHWANKE   asked   how  the   DEED   makes   its                                                               
determinations regarding the  necessity of a CIP  grant and asked                                                               
what the minimum value for a CIP grant.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  explained a series  of different qualifications  that a                                                               
successful CIP application might  have and confirmed that $50,000                                                               
was  the minimum  value  for a  CIP  grant.   She  said that  the                                                               
threshold was  set in consideration  of what might  be considered                                                               
"routine" in a school district's maintenance plan.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT emphasized  that schools  often budget  their                                                               
maintenance  funding directly  from the  Base Student  Allocation                                                               
(BSA) and must make do with only that.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:48:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED resumed the presentation  on slide 12, which displayed a                                                               
table that outlined the total  amount of dollars requested within                                                               
school  districts'  six-year plans  and  continued  to slide  13,                                                               
which detailed three  key points of an annual  report mandated sb                                                               
the  26th Alaska  Legislature's Senate  Bill 237.   She  moved to                                                               
slide 14, which displayed a  table that highlighted the different                                                               
types of  CIP funding  that the DEED  awarded by  specific Fiscal                                                               
Year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:50:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHWANKE asked  Ms.  Weed to  further detail  the                                                               
recommended 3 percent renewal rate.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED explained  that the 3 percent amount  was recommended by                                                               
the National Council of School Facilities.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EISCHEID  added  that  the  National  Council  of                                                               
School facilities has recommended a rate of 4 percent.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:52:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTIKOFER added  his understanding  that school  maintenance                                                               
funding is  an "issue nationwide"  based off of  his interactions                                                               
with the National Council of School Facilities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ELAM  commented  that  Boroughs  in  Alaska  fund                                                               
schools within themselves similarly to counties in the Lower 48.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:54:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED resumed  the presentation on slide 15,  which focused on                                                               
the  deferred maintenance  funds that  Mt. Edgecumbe  High School                                                               
requested from  DEED.  She  concluded the presentation  on slides                                                               
16-18.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:55:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DIBERT  asked if  school  districts  are able  to                                                               
compile  project   needs  for   different  buildings   under  one                                                               
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked if a  project would be awarded to a                                                               
district how needs it vs one  that is being more proactive in its                                                               
maintenance  process. She  asked how  a maintenance  project that                                                               
was  completed using  local  funds would  be  categorized by  the                                                               
DEED.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED  in response to  committee member's  questions, answered                                                               
that  the projects  that Representative  Dibert was  asking about                                                               
were   called  "district   wide  projects"   and  are   addressed                                                               
holistically.  She  explained that the response to  a disaster is                                                               
dependent on the  nuance of the emergency and said  that a school                                                               
district would have to cover  the immediate cost of any emergency                                                               
maintenance,  not  a  CIP  grant.  She  elaborated  that  certain                                                               
maintenance projects  would be  able to  be reimbursed  after the                                                               
immediate  repair and  said that  the DEED  does not  distinguish                                                               
between completed or ongoing projects  when it is determining who                                                               
shall receive a CIP grant.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT thanked  the invited  testifiers and  invited                                                               
Dr. Lisa Parody to begin the next presentation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:04:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LISA PARADY,  Executive Director,  Alaska Council  of School                                                               
Administrators  &  Superintendents,  gave a  presentation  titled                                                               
"School District Major  Maintenance" She began on  slide 2, which                                                               
detailed the  Alaska Council of School  Administrators (ACSA) and                                                               
moved to  slide 3, which  highlighted the ACSA's  "joint position                                                               
statement"  regarding major  school maintenance  in Alaska.   She                                                               
continued to  slide 4, which  displayed three  statistics related                                                               
to  Alaska schools  and moved  to slide  5, which  emphasized the                                                               
"ongoing challenge" of deferred  maintenance in Alaska's schools.                                                               
She moved  to slide  6, which  highlighted the  major maintenance                                                               
issues that  Alaska's schools are  facing and continued  to slide                                                               
7,  which displayed  a table  that detailed  the recommended  and                                                               
funded capitol renewal  since FY11.  She moved to  slide 8, which                                                               
listed specific projects  that are on the  DEED major maintenance                                                               
list since  FY18 and continued  to slide 9, which  emphasized the                                                               
poor physical condition  of Alaska's schools.   She moved through                                                               
slides 10-11, which displayed a  series of photos that emphasized                                                               
the poor condition  of Alaska's schools.  She  continued to slide                                                               
12,  which detailed  a  series of  proposed  solutions to  combat                                                               
Alaska's deteriorating schools and  concluded the presentation on                                                               
slide 13.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked about  the separation between rural                                                               
and urban school districts in Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  PARODY emphasized  that rural  school  districts often  have                                                               
less   resources  to   put   towards   preventative  or   routine                                                               
maintenance, which leads dollars away from the classroom.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:23:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ELAM commented his  understanding that there might                                                               
be a  large tax burden placed  on municipalities if they  were to                                                               
be made responsible for REAA maintenance projects.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR.  PARODY  highlighted  the  importance  of  municipalities  in                                                               
handling local  school maintenance  issues in  lieu of  the state                                                               
"not handling" school maintenance issues.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:26:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AUDRA  FINKENBINDER, Superintendent,  Southwest School  District,                                                               
gave a  presentation titled "School District  Major Maintenance".                                                               
She began  on slide  2, which highlighted  the top  priorities of                                                               
the Southwest Region School District  (SRSD)'s six year CIP plan.                                                               
She  moved to  slide  3,  which detailed  the  Twin Hills  School                                                               
renovation/replacement project  and continued  to slide  4, which                                                               
detailed  the Ekwok  School  renovation project.    She moved  to                                                               
slide 5,  which detailed the Aleknagik  School renovation project                                                               
and  continued  to  slide  6, which  described  4  main  concerns                                                               
regarding  the previously  mentioned improvement  projects.   She                                                               
moved to slide  7, which emphasized the importance  of schools in                                                               
the  role   they  sometimes  serve  as   emergency  shelters  and                                                               
concluded the presentation on slide 8.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:33:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT asked  if the Southwest School  District has a                                                               
maintenance  employee  at each  school  site,  given the  extreme                                                               
remote nature of the district.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FINKENBINDER answered  that  the  Southwest School  District                                                               
does  have limited  maintenance personnel  out at  certain school                                                               
sites, but has more at its central office in Dillingham, Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  asked how  much time and  resources are  spent on                                                               
preparing the annual six-year CIP grant plan.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. FINKENBINDER  replied that the Southwest  School District has                                                               
had to begin  doing its CIP grant plans "in  house" due to budget                                                               
constraints and explained that its  lead administrators have been                                                               
spending significant  time on preparing the  annual six-year plan                                                               
before it is due.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:39:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MADELINE AGUILLARD, Superintendent,  Kuspuk School District, gave                                                               
a presentation  titled "School District Major  Maintenance".  She                                                               
began  on slides  2-3,  which detailed  the  history and  current                                                               
status of  the Sleetmute school  improvement project.   She moved                                                               
through slides 4-5, which emphasized  the positive impact of good                                                               
school  facility conditions  on student  achievement and  teacher                                                               
retention.   She  continued  through slides  6-10,  all of  which                                                               
compared the current derelict condition  of schools in the Kuspuk                                                               
School District  to Maslow's Hierarchy  of Needs.   She concluded                                                               
the  presentation on  slide 11,  which highlighted  the needs  of                                                               
school districts in Alaska and some solutions for those needs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:58:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. AGUILLARD commented "the kids aren't going to let us down"                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:58:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT  thanked the invited testifiers  and delivered                                                               
committee announcements.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:00 a.m.