Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/17/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 17, 2023                                                                                         
                           8:00 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): EDUCATION FINANCIAL DEEP DIVE BY DEPARTMENT OF                                                                 
EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUSIE MCKENZIE, Director                                                                                                        
Division of Innovation and Education Excellence                                                                                 
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a PowerPoint, titled "Annual                                                                
Report to the Legislature."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH RIDDLE, Operations Manager                                                                                              
Division of Innovation and Education Excellence                                                                                 
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a PowerPoint, titled "Annual                                                                
Report to the Legislature."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:00:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JAMIE  ALLARD  called   the  House  Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  8:00 a.m.   Representatives Prax,                                                               
McCormick, McKay,  Himschoot, Allard, and Ruffridge  were present                                                               
at  the call  to  order.   Representative  Story  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): Education Financial Deep  Dive by Department of                                                               
Education and Early Development                                                                                                 
PRESENTATION(S): Education Financial Deep Dive by Department of                                                             
                Education and Early Development                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
8:01:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be a presentation on the  education finances by the Department of                                                               
Education and Early Development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:02:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSIE MCKENZIE,  Director, Division  of Innovation  and Education                                                               
Excellence,  Department   of  Education  and   Early  Development                                                               
(DEED), co-presented  a PowerPoint, titled "Annual  Report to the                                                               
Legislature" [hard copy included in the committee packet].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:03:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD interjected  that  this is  not  the report  she                                                               
requested.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH RIDDLE,  Operations Manager,  Division of  Innovation and                                                               
Education   Excellence,  Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                               
Development, co-presented a PowerPoint,  titled "Annual Report to                                                               
the Legislature," responded that the  data requested is in DEED's                                                               
annual report to the legislature.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:04:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:04 a.m. to 8:05 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:05:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  questioned whether the presenters  have a report                                                               
breaking down the  $2.5 billion of funds going  to the districts.                                                               
She  stated that  the committee  will  bring in  an economist  to                                                               
reevaluate the financial reports totaling this amount.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE responded  that DEED  could follow  up with  the base                                                               
student allocation  (BSA).  She  continued that  the presentation                                                               
contains  the report  which accounts  for all  the other  federal                                                               
funds  and state  grants going  to  districts through  DEED.   In                                                               
response to whether the report  shows federal revenue, she stated                                                               
that  the federal  grants are  included.   She  stated she  would                                                               
follow  up to  the committee  with the  full federal  grant award                                                               
notification.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD reminded  the presenters  that the  committee is                                                               
public and the  "public needs to know."  She  reiterated that the                                                               
information specifically requested is missing.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:06:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCKENZIE continued  to the  presentation,  pointing out  the                                                               
state's five strategic priorities, as seen on slide 3.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:07:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD interjected  and requested  that the  presenters                                                               
move to the  Annual Report, [hard copy included  in the committee                                                               
packet].  She  requested that the committee  be given information                                                               
on  all the  funding going  to every  school district  across the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:07:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE directed attention to page  7 of the Annual Report and                                                               
said  that beginning  on  this page  each  federal program  which                                                               
provides funds  to the  state is  listed.   She added  that these                                                               
funds pass through  DEED to the districts.  She  stated that page                                                               
7  to page  14 addresses  each type  of federal  funding and  the                                                               
percentage which  goes to the  districts.  She stated  that about                                                               
95 percent  of the funds go  through DEED to the  districts, with                                                               
the remaining 5 percent going  to pay salaries and administer the                                                               
grants.    She  stated  that  on  these  pages  each  program  is                                                               
reviewed,  showing the  designations for  each amount  of federal                                                               
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:09 a.m. to 8:10 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:10:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD stated  that the  Annual Report  is required  by                                                               
statute, pointing  out that the  presenters are  currently giving                                                               
an  overview  of federal  programs.    She suggested  that  these                                                               
slides be moved  through quickly so the committee  can review the                                                               
numbers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:11:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE listed  the requirements  by statute  for the  Annual                                                               
Report and  pointed to the  presentation, moving from slide  6 to                                                               
slide 14 [which  correlated with pages from the  Annual Report as                                                               
listed  in the  right-hand corner  of each  slide].   She briefly                                                               
discussed the slides and the  statutory requirements, as follows:                                                               
report  to  the public  [Annual  Report  pages  3 to  6],  school                                                               
accountability and  accreditation [Annual Report pages  7 to 14],                                                               
federal  programs [Annual  Report  pages 15  to  20], funding  by                                                               
district  [Annual  Report  pages  21  to  22],  quality  schools'                                                               
initiative  and  curriculum   alignment  with  standards  [Annual                                                               
Report  pages  23 to  24],  support  for low  performing  schools                                                               
[Annual  Report  pages  25 to  27],  school  district  strategies                                                               
[Annual  Report pages  28 to  38], and  turnover of  certificated                                                               
personnel and superintendents [Annual Report pages 39 to 52].                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:16:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE,  in  response  to a  question  from  the  committee,                                                               
explained the funding from the  Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA)                                                               
on page  15 of the  Annual Report.  She  pointed out that  on the                                                               
chart  all  Title   I-A  programs  are  based   on  civil  rights                                                               
equitability;  therefore,  this  addresses  low-income  students.                                                               
She stated that  these funds can be used for  anything other than                                                               
what districts  already supply.   The  next column,  SIG 1003(a),                                                               
shows  the funds  for improvement  plans for  qualifying schools.                                                               
In  response  to  a  follow-up question,  she  stated  that,  for                                                               
example,  Title I  funds  can be  used  for paraprofessionals  or                                                               
tutors for  students identified as  Title I students.   She added                                                               
these  funds  could   also  be  designated  for   a  school  wide                                                               
initiative, which would be a broader use.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE,  in  response  to  a  follow-up  question  from  the                                                               
committee, stated  that Title  I is based  on a  federal formula.                                                               
In regard  to school improvement, she  said this is based  on how                                                               
the school  is designated; for example,  Title I-C is based  on a                                                               
formula in relation  to migrant children.  She  stated that Title                                                               
I-D  is based  on  the number  of students  in  the district  who                                                               
qualify.  She  pointed out that Subpart 2 is  a grant, which must                                                               
be applied for  by the school.  She continued  that Title II-A is                                                               
for professional development based on  the formula in relation to                                                               
the size of the school, while  Title III-A is based on the number                                                               
of English  learners in the  district.  She continued  that Title                                                               
IV-A is  based on the  size of the  school, while Title  IV-B and                                                               
McKinney-Vento are  both competitive grants.   She moved  to page                                                               
17 and  stated that the  Individuals with  Disabilities Education                                                               
Act  (IDEA)  and  the  Carl  Perkins grants  are  both  based  on                                                               
formulas,  while  the  Comprehensive Literacy  State  Development                                                               
(CLSD) is a competitive grant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE, in  response to  a follow-up  question, stated  that                                                               
most  of  the  money  is  distributed on  approval  from  the  US                                                               
Department  of  Education  (DoED).   In  further  explanation  of                                                               
support  needs, she  stated that  SIG  1003(a) designates  school                                                               
improvement funds.   She  pointed out that  there are  around 125                                                               
schools in the  state identified as needing this.   She continued                                                               
that this is  tied to Title I funds; once  the state receives the                                                               
funds, they  go through a  formula and  a portion goes  to school                                                               
improvement.   She  added that  this totals  $3.25 billion.   She                                                               
reiterated that this is federal dollars.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:26:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE,  in response to  a question concerning  the McKinney-                                                               
Vento funding, stated  that this is money  for homeless students,                                                               
and  every district  receives this,  while  the larger  districts                                                               
receive extra  funds.  Concerning  why the funding  reflects zero                                                               
on  the chart  on  page 16,  she stated  that  every district  is                                                               
required to set  aside funds for homeless  students, working with                                                               
a  liaison, and  there is  a program  for this.   She  stated she                                                               
would  contact  the  program  manager and  follow  up  with  more                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE,  in  response to  a  committee  question  concerning                                                               
migratory students, stated that  these students travel outside of                                                               
their  school  districts  to do  migratory  activities,  such  as                                                               
subsistence activities.   She  stated that  Alaska has  the sixth                                                               
largest program for  this in the country, and  these students can                                                               
receive  extra  funding.    In a  follow  up  concerning  whether                                                               
federal money is applied for by  DEED on behalf of the districts,                                                               
she  replied  that  there  is  a  consolidation  application  for                                                               
districts.   This is to  make sure there  is an allowable  use of                                                               
federal funds.   She stated  that each  student has BSA,  but the                                                               
funding from the  title programs creates extra  levels of funding                                                               
on  top  of  BSA.    She  stated  that  the  federal  funding  is                                                               
determined  by DoED.   The  process is,  DEED sends  a report  to                                                               
DoED,  DoED  determines  the  funding, and  then  DEED  runs  its                                                               
formula to  determine what each district  receives, which amounts                                                               
to around 95  percent of the federal money.   She stated that the                                                               
money is not  applied for, rather is based on  the report sent to                                                               
DoED.  She further discussed this process.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:33:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD requested  the number of federal  grants which go                                                               
directly to  the districts  and the  total amount  of this.   She                                                               
questioned whether these grants are tracked.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE replied that she will  follow up to the committee with                                                               
these totals.   She stated that  DEED tracks the grants,  and she                                                               
explained how  this is done.   She  stated that to  receive grant                                                               
money,  a district  must  request  it.   She  discussed the  risk                                                               
assessments done on the school  districts, with the top districts                                                               
being monitored.  During the  monitoring, she said that DEED will                                                               
give technical assistance, and it  will follow up to the district                                                               
concerning any noncompliance.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD moved her line  of questioning to state and local                                                               
revenue.  She requested information,  for which she expressed the                                                               
assumption  that the  presenters do  not  have the  answer.   She                                                               
questioned the following to be  broken down by district: city and                                                               
borough appropriations, total  regional education attendance area                                                               
(REAA) funds,  and the amount  of funds each REAA  would receive.                                                               
She requested an explanation of REAA.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:38:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKENZIE confirmed that "REAA"  stands for regional education                                                               
attendance  area.   She  stated that  it is  usually  a group  of                                                               
districts.   She confirmed  that she did  not have  the requested                                                               
information, but she would follow  up to the committee with this.                                                               
In response to a follow-up  question, she explained that "in-kind                                                               
service" would be like a volunteer,  adding that if a match for a                                                               
grant is  required, it  can be  done this way.   She  stated that                                                               
this would not have to be done  with cash, but a cash value would                                                               
need to  be assigned.  In  response to a request  for the broken-                                                               
down totals  for this by district,  she stated that she  does not                                                               
have these  numbers.  In  response to  a question on  earnings on                                                               
investments,  she stated  that this  is not  under the  division;                                                               
however, she  would follow up  to the  committee with this.   She                                                               
answered that "other local revenue"  is the funds which come from                                                               
the municipalities and other grants,  and the information on this                                                               
is not available  to the division.  She continued  that she would                                                               
follow  up to  the committee  with this  information, along  with                                                               
information  on tuition  for students,  tuition by  district, and                                                               
state  revenue.   She  confirmed that  the  information would  be                                                               
broken down for the committee by district and total.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:41:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  stated that  for the  meeting she  had requested                                                               
the  numbers  on  where  the   funds  come  from,  how  they  are                                                               
distributed, and how  they are broken down  by district; however,                                                               
she  has not  received any  of this  information.   She commented                                                               
that she is making this statement for the public record.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:41:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  commented  that  some  of  this  requested                                                               
information is in the committee packet.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  remarked that she does  not recall getting                                                               
the numbers put on public record.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  questioned Co-Chair  Allard's document.                                                               
She requested a copy of the document.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD responded  that the document she  is working with                                                               
is a DEED document; however, it was not obtained from DEED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:42:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD, in several exchanges  with Ms. Riddle, continued                                                               
her  requests   for  information  from  DEED   concerning  school                                                               
district funding.   She requested that each  question be answered                                                               
with the total funding broken down by district.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE, in  response to  the requests  for multiple  sets of                                                               
data from  Co-Chair Allard,  responded that  she would  follow up                                                               
with the committee with this information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:45:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  questioned the document Co-Chair  Allard was                                                               
referring to.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  responded that her  office had put  together the                                                               
questions, and once it receives  the answers the document will be                                                               
passed on to the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:45:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:45 a.m. to 8:37 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:47:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD expressed the understanding that the questions                                                                  
she presented would be answered by the presenters during the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE responded that DEED would provide the answers to                                                                     
these questions in a follow up to the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:49:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 8:49 a.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
(H) EDC AS14.03.120 Annual Progress Report and District Grants 03.17.23.pdf HEDC 3/17/2023 8:00:00 AM
Annual Report
Annual Progress ThickReport 2022-2023 FINAL 2-13-23.pdf HEDC 3/17/2023 8:00:00 AM
Annual Progress Thick Report