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03/10/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:02:27 AM Presentation(s): Citizen's Guide to K-12 Funding in Alaska; Education Reports Required under Federal and State Laws and Regulations
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 10, 2023                                                                                         
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): CITIZEN'S GUIDE TO K-12 FUNDING IN ALASKA;                                                                     
EDUCATION REPORTS REQUIRED UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AND                                                                     
REGULATIONS                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CONOR BELL, Fiscal Analyst                                                                                                      
Legislative Finance Division                                                                                                    
Legislative Affairs Agency                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                              
"Overview of K-12 Funding."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ELWIN BLACKWELL, School Finance Manager                                                                                         
Financial and Support Services                                                                                                  
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on K-12 school funding                                                                
and   co-presented   the    PowerPoint,   titled   "Reports   and                                                               
Accountability."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN MCKENZIE, Director                                                                                                        
Division of Innovation and Education Excellence                                                                                 
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint, titled                                                                      
"Reports and Accountability."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH RIDDLE, Operations Manager                                                                                              
Division of Innovation and Education Excellence                                                                                 
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint, titled                                                                      
"Reports and Accountability" and answered questions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LORI WEED, Finance Specialist                                                                                                   
Financial and Support Services                                                                                                  
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint, titled                                                                      
"Reports and Accountability" and answered questions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LACY SANDERS, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                               
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the presentation.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOE WILLHOITE, Manager                                                                                                          
School Facilities                                                                                                               
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the presentation.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AMY PHILLIPS-CHAN, PhD, Director                                                                                                
Division of Libraries, Archives, and Museums                                                                                    
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the PowerPoint, titled                                                                      
"Reports and Accountability."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANDREA NOBLE, Executive Director                                                                                                
Alaska State Council on the Arts                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Co-presented  the   PowerPoint,  titled                                                             
"Reports and Accountability."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JUSTIN RUFFRIDGE  called the  House Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  8:01 a.m.   Representatives Prax,                                                               
McCormick, McKay,  Himschoot, Allard, and Ruffridge  were present                                                               
at  the call  to  order.   Representative  Story  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  CITIZEN'S GUIDE  TO  K-12  FUNDING IN  ALASKA;                                                               
EDUCATION  REPORTS  REQUIRED UNDER  FEDERAL  AND  STATE LAWS  AND                                                               
REGULATIONS                                                                                                                     
  PRESENTATION(S): CITIZEN'S GUIDE TO K-12 FUNDING IN ALASKA;                                                               
  EDUCATION REPORTS REQUIRED UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AND                                                               
                          REGULATIONS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
8:02:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would be presentations on K-12 funding in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:03:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONOR  BELL,   Fiscal  Analyst,  Legislative   Finance  Division,                                                               
Legislative  Affairs  Agency,   presented  a  PowerPoint,  titled                                                               
"Overview of K-12  Funding" [hard copy included  in the committee                                                               
packet].   He stated that  the presentation will  outline funding                                                               
sources for K-12  education in Alaska.  He began  with an outline                                                               
of the presentation, as seen on slide  2.  He pointed out the pie                                                               
charts on  slide 3  and slide  4 which  showed breakdowns  of the                                                               
education funding  for fiscal year  2023 [FY 23], with  the state                                                               
being the largest payer at  63 percent and the Foundation Program                                                               
being the  biggest source  at 52 percent.   He  further discussed                                                               
the  details  of  these  charts.   In  response  to  a  committee                                                               
question, he  expressed the belief  that other states  break down                                                               
school funding  at the  county level.   He  stated that  he would                                                               
follow up  to the committee  with the data on  municipal support,                                                               
by district.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:08:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL  addressed  how the  K-12  Foundation  Funding  Formula                                                               
works, as  seen on slide  5 through slide 9.   He noted  that the                                                               
formula is  subject to appropriations  by the legislature,  so if                                                               
the legislature funds less than  the statutory Foundation Funding                                                               
Formula, the  Public Education  Fund (PEF)  would be  prorated to                                                               
districts proportionately.   In response to  a committee question                                                               
regarding the uncertainty  of student counts at  the beginning of                                                               
the school  year, he stated  that funding is  gradual; therefore,                                                               
money  would  not  be  appropriated  into PEF  right  away.    He                                                               
reiterated that there would be  a gradual appropriation into this                                                               
fund.  He recommended that  the Department of Education and Early                                                               
Development (DEED)  speak to this,  and he suggested  there could                                                               
be a  comparison between  the projected  student counts  from the                                                               
time the budget is made with the actual student counts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:11:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:11:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed the  understanding that money would                                                               
flow  into the  fund  by apportionment,  gradually,  and then  it                                                               
would flow to  the districts based on the  October student count.                                                               
He pointed  out that  because of  the COVID-19  pandemic, student                                                               
counts had  changed dramatically, resulting in  a dramatic change                                                               
in  funding.   He  questioned  whether  there are  statistics  in                                                               
relation to the  stability of the student count over  the past 10                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ELWIN  BLACKWELL, School  Finance Manager,  Alaska Department  of                                                               
Education  and  Early Development,  in  further  response to  the                                                               
question  concerning the  stability of  the student  count as  it                                                               
relates to the funding, stated  that DEED does have average daily                                                               
membership  (ADM) data  provided  on its  website  going back  30                                                               
years.  In response to a  follow-up question, he stated that DEED                                                               
has seen  some change because  of the pandemic, with  the biggest                                                               
shift  being   students  moving   out  of   the  brick-and-mortar                                                               
facilities in  2021 to  correspondence programs.   He  added that                                                               
overall, the  difference was  only a  few percentage  points, and                                                               
currently these students  are slowly moving back  into the school                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL, in  response for  clarification  on the  process,                                                               
explained that DEED would do a  count through October for the new                                                               
number of students.   After this, a couple months  would be spent                                                               
working with  the districts on the  ADM data, so it  could be set                                                               
by March.  From this the  remaining year would be determined.  In                                                               
order  for  money  to  start  being sent  to  the  districts,  he                                                               
explained that for  the first nine months of the  fiscal year the                                                               
Foundation  Fund  payment  would  be based  on  the  prior  year.                                                               
During the three final months, amounts  would be trued up, and by                                                               
the end of the fiscal  year districts would receive their current                                                               
year's entitlement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:16:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  questioned PEF, expressing  the understanding                                                               
that it  is a pass-through  fund and would  need to have  a large                                                               
amount of  money to  smooth over any  volatility.   He questioned                                                               
the statutory average of money that is required to be in PEF.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELL  responded that  he would report  back to  the committee                                                               
with this answer.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:17:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL, in  response to a committee  question, stated that                                                               
during his  tenure the  formula has never  been underfunded.   In                                                               
response  to a  follow-up  question, he  replied  that the  local                                                               
funding  would go  directly from  municipalities to  the schools,                                                               
not passing  through the  state.  He  continued that  the federal                                                               
funding  would  go directly  to  the  districts, with  DEED  only                                                               
collecting  information  on the  money  that  has been  given  to                                                               
districts.  Adjustments are then  made within the Foundation Fund                                                               
to determine  the state aid,  and this  would depend on  what the                                                               
districts received.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:19:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD questioned whether  some school districts receive                                                               
more money for correspondence schools than others.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL  answered  that  districts  would  decide  on  the                                                               
amounts that are given as an allotment to parents.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD suggested that if  districts are offering parents                                                               
different allotments for each  correspondence school, parents may                                                               
want to  switch programs.   She commented that this  would create                                                               
"friendly" competition.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL reiterated  that it  would be  up to  districts to                                                               
increase  the student  allotment, even  with an  increase in  the                                                               
base student  allotment (BSA).  He  stated that in the  past this                                                               
has  happened,  and  districts   did  increase  allotments.    In                                                               
response  to a  comment  that BSA  is not  the  only funding,  he                                                               
explained  that   for  general  operating  purposes,   BSA  would                                                               
represent a large portion of  the Foundation Funding Formula.  He                                                               
continued that  some districts retain  some [federal]  impact aid                                                               
funds and  additional amounts from  the local  municipalities are                                                               
received; therefore, districts  may have a little  more than what                                                               
the formula determines for operating purposes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD expressed the  opinion that there are other                                                               
"buckets of money" coming to DEED.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:24:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  questioned whether  impact aid would  go to                                                               
Regional  Education Attendance  Areas  (REAAs).   She  questioned                                                               
whether  all correspondence  students' allotments  would also  be                                                               
increased when BSA increases.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL  replied that impact  aid would be received  by any                                                               
district  with qualifying  students; however,  not all  districts                                                               
have students  who qualify.  He  replied that given the  value of                                                               
correspondence  students in  the Foundation  Funding Formula,  if                                                               
this goes  up with BSA, the  student's resource would go  up.  In                                                               
response  to  a  follow-up  question concerning  impact  aid,  he                                                               
replied that  in Alaska  this would  go to  students who  live on                                                               
Native  lands  and students  who  live  on  military bases.    He                                                               
explained that the  impact aid would pass through  DEED, but DEED                                                               
does not  retain any  of this  aid.  In  response to  a follow-up                                                               
question, he  replied that DEED  does utilize some of  the impact                                                               
aid from  REAAs in relation to  funding basic needs.   He further                                                               
explained that DEED  cannot use any of the  impact aid designated                                                               
for  special  education students  or  for  students who  live  on                                                               
Native lands.   Other than this,  he said that 90  percent of any                                                               
leftover funds from  impact aid would be used in  REAAs for basic                                                               
needs.   For impact  aid to  municipalities, DEED  would consider                                                               
how  much funding  is provided  over the  required local  effort;                                                               
therefore,  the   eligible  amount  would  be   reduced  per  the                                                               
percentage.   After  this, DEED  would  take 90  percent of  this                                                               
toward basic  needs.  He  concluded that  DEED would use  more of                                                               
the impact aid for REAAs than for municipal school districts.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:28:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL  moved to  slide  6  and  explained  how ADM  would  be                                                               
determined.  He stated that  the adjusted ADM would be determined                                                               
by using six  factors, as seen on  slide 7.  He  pointed out that                                                               
the six  factors are school  size, district cost,  special needs,                                                               
career   and  technical   education   (CTE),  special   education                                                               
intensive  students,  and  the  correspondence  multiplier.    He                                                               
explained that the result would then  be multiplied by BSA to get                                                               
the basic need.  He gave further details on the six factors.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:33:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL,  in response to  a series of  committee questions,                                                               
replied that the  special needs factor would  cover special needs                                                               
students,  gifted  and  talented   students,  and  bilingual  and                                                               
bicultural  students.    He  explained  that  this  factor  would                                                               
increase the funding the district  would receive.  He stated that                                                               
this factor is  discretionary; however, if the  students in these                                                               
categories are in the district,  they would receive the services.                                                               
If these  services do not require  the full 20 percent,  then the                                                               
funds could  be used for  other needs.   He answered that  if the                                                               
district  needed  additional  funding  and did  not  have  a  CTE                                                               
program, it could  use the CTE multiplier for  special needs [but                                                               
the CTE is  not included in the special needs  factor].  He added                                                               
that all the funds from  the Foundation Program are discretionary                                                               
to meet the educational needs of the students.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL, in  response to a question  concerning state funds                                                               
with  a target,  replied  that one  of the  larger  funds is  the                                                               
transportation fund,  as this covers  students going to  and from                                                               
school.   He  stated  that this  must be  reported  in a  special                                                               
revenue fund  for the state,  so how the  funding is used  can be                                                               
seen.  If  there is excess in this fund,  it could be transferred                                                               
for other purposes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:38:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL, in  response to a committee  question, stated that                                                               
the  special needs  factor is  not  determined by  the number  of                                                               
students who need  these services, rather every  district has the                                                               
same  multiplier of  1.2.   He  continued that  the only  special                                                               
needs students  individually identified  are the  intensive needs                                                               
students, and they would be  given additional funding.  He stated                                                               
that any formula changes to this  would be a policy decision made                                                               
by the  legislature.   In response to  a question  concerning the                                                               
CTE funding,  he responded that  no matter how many  CTE students                                                               
there are, every district would  receive a 1.5 increase for every                                                               
brick-and-mortar student.  He added that  this is a set factor in                                                               
the  Foundation  Funding  Formula, and  every  district  receives                                                               
this.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:41:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT commented  on the  federal requirements                                                               
for the Individuals with Disabilities  Education Act (IDEA) block                                                               
grant  funding.   She  explained that  this  block grant  funding                                                               
would go  toward the individualized education  plans for specific                                                               
students,  and   these  plans  would  be   legal  documents  with                                                               
timelines  and  benchmarks.   She  added  that  there is  also  a                                                               
required plan for English language learners.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:42:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL  responded to a  committee question  concerning the                                                               
state allotments given to districts  and any shortfall a district                                                               
may have.  He explained that state  aid is a fixed number, and it                                                               
would be up  to the district to operate within  this; however, if                                                               
the  district  is  under  budget, the  leftover  funds  could  be                                                               
transferred to  other needs in  the district.   In response  to a                                                               
follow-up question,  he stated that  by state  statute, districts                                                               
must have  an audit every year.   He stated that  he would follow                                                               
up to the committee with these audit reports.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:47:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELL  addressed the  Foundation Funding  Formula's adjustment                                                               
factors listed  on slide 8,  as follows:  ADM, Non-Correspondence                                                               
ADM,  school size  factor, district  cost  factor, special  needs                                                               
factor,  CTE factor  1.015, SPED  (special education)  intensive,                                                               
and  correspondence.   He  further discussed  this  process.   He                                                               
moved  to slide  9 and  stated that  the hold  harmless provision                                                               
would allow a time adjustment  if a district's ADM decreased more                                                               
than 5  percent in  a year.   He pointed out  that this  had been                                                               
used  when students  moved to  correspondence schools  during the                                                               
COVID-19  pandemic.   He  explained  the  consolidation of  these                                                               
provisions  would   help  disincentive  districts   from  closing                                                               
schools.   He pointed out  the graphs  on slide 11  through slide                                                               
13, which  addressed the effect of  these factors over time.   He                                                               
directed  attention to  the  fact the  ADM  multiplier has  grown                                                               
since FY  05 from  1.658 to  the current 2.223.   He  stated that                                                               
while the student count has been  reduced over the last 20 years,                                                               
the ADM has  grown.  He pointed  out that over the  last 20 years                                                               
BSA has grown from $4,576 to $5,960.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:54:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL, in  response to  a committee  question concerning  the                                                               
increase  in  multipliers  in  FY 21,  explained  that  this  was                                                               
because of the  hold harmless factor, as  students were switching                                                               
to  correspondence  schools during  the  pandemic  and ADMs  were                                                               
falling below  5 percent.   In response  to a request,  he stated                                                               
that  he  would report  the  requirements  for  a student  to  be                                                               
considered intensive special needs to the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:58:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE, in  response  to  the committee  discussion,                                                               
expressed the  understanding that  ADM, or  the number  of actual                                                               
students attending  school, has  remained relatively flat  for 20                                                               
years.  However, after applying  the listed factors, the adjusted                                                               
ADM would create an artificial number of students.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL responded  in agreement.   Concerning  the increase  in                                                               
SPED and  CTE multipliers in FY  21, he responded that  he cannot                                                               
speak  to the  legislative intent  at that  time, but  he allowed                                                               
that  greater  funding  had been  provided  for  intensive  needs                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:00:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  questioned the number of  special needs students                                                               
receiving funding outside of the brick-and-mortar schools.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL replied that  correspondence students funding would                                                               
come  after all  the adjustments,  so none  of these  multipliers                                                               
apply to  correspondence.  He  explained that if a  special needs                                                               
student  is  in  correspondence   school,  the  school  would  be                                                               
required to meet these needs, but  the school would not receive a                                                               
multiplier and  the formula would  not increase; however,  if the                                                               
special  needs  is defined  as  "intensive,"  the district  would                                                               
receive the multiplier regardless  of whether the student attends                                                               
a brick-and-mortar school or correspondence  school.  In response                                                               
to a  series of  follow-up questions,  he stated  that concerning                                                               
the  difference between  the special  education category  and the                                                               
intensive needs category,  a list of conditions would  need to be                                                               
met to qualify as an intensive  needs student.  He stated that he                                                               
would  follow  up to  the  committee  with  these criteria.    He                                                               
expressed uncertainty  whether students  in school  districts who                                                               
cannot  read would  receive  more  funding.   He  stated that  if                                                               
students have reading difficulties, they  may fall into a special                                                               
needs category.  In response  to a question concerning the amount                                                               
of additional funding for intensive  needs students, he expressed                                                               
the understanding  it would add  around $77,000.   Concerning the                                                               
amount parents would receive if  the intensive needs student were                                                               
in a correspondence school, he  expressed uncertainty.  He stated                                                               
that the correspondence program  would have the responsibility to                                                               
make sure  the student's  needs are  met.   He responded  that he                                                               
would follow up with the exact numbers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  the  belief  that for  intensive                                                               
needs students,  a one-on-one special  aid would be hired  by the                                                               
district.   She added that  districts would possibly  be required                                                               
to  provide  a  speech  therapist   in  these  situations.    She                                                               
recommended that the  committee have a separate  meeting on these                                                               
special education issues.  She  requested a follow-up response on                                                               
these questions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:08:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL,  continuing  the  presentation,  addressed  the  other                                                               
funding  sources,  with  slide  13  listing  the  required  local                                                               
contributions.  He  explained that 34 of the 53  districts in the                                                               
state  would be  required to  meet the  local contributions.   He                                                               
pointed out that  because REAAs do not collect  taxes, they would                                                               
not  be   required  to   pay.    He   discussed  how   the  local                                                               
contributions  would be  determined.   He  added that  this is  a                                                               
substitute  for money  the state  would have  to contribute.   He                                                               
continued  to slide  14  and stated  that  local governments  can                                                               
provide voluntary  funding, but  there is a  cap on  this amount.                                                               
Moving to  slide 15 and  slide 16,  he stated that  districts can                                                               
receive  funding when  there is  non-taxable federal  property in                                                               
the  district, such  as military  bases.   He discussed  how this                                                               
federal  impact aid  effects the  Foundation Funding  Formula, as                                                               
the state could deduct 90 percent  from its share of the formula;                                                               
however, Alaska would have to  pass the federal disparity test to                                                               
do this.   Regarding this, he explained that the  state must have                                                               
an equalized formula.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed the understanding that  this would                                                               
provide an incentive for local  districts to contribute more than                                                               
the limit,  because they would  still receive the  federal impact                                                               
aid, while the state would lose the funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:14:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELL explained that the  cap on voluntary contributions would                                                               
enable the  state to pass  the disparity test;  therefore, Alaska                                                               
is considered  an equalized state.   If the cap were  removed and                                                               
the disparity were no longer  passed, he expressed agreement that                                                               
districts with significant federal  impact aid would receive more                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL,  in response  to  a  follow-up comment,  related  that                                                               
Alaska had failed  the FY 22 disparity test, but  it appealed and                                                               
passed  the   test  because  the   federal  inclusion   of  pupil                                                               
transportation  was  reversed.     In  response  to  a  follow-up                                                               
question from the committee, he  stated that he would report back                                                               
to the committee  with the information on the  disparity test and                                                               
the  numbers involved.   He  expressed uncertainty  about whether                                                               
the  state has  ever  failed  the disparity  test,  and he  would                                                               
report back to the committee on this.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:17:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  added that, for the  record, this information                                                               
is available on DEED's website.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:18:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL moved  to slide  17,  which addressed  the funding  for                                                               
pupil transportation.   He  stated that this  is provided  to any                                                               
district with  a pupil transportation  system.  He  discussed the                                                               
fiscal history  of this funding,  with the  FY 24 total  being at                                                               
$72.6 million, and this would  come from the unrestricted general                                                               
funds.  He moved to slide  18, discussing indirect funding to the                                                               
districts, which  includes the state's retirement  system, school                                                               
debt  reimbursement, and  REAA funding.    He moved  to slide  21                                                               
which showed the  funding levers for the legislature.   He stated                                                               
that if the  legislature were to change  school district funding,                                                               
this could be  done by changing the  following: BSA, outside-the-                                                               
formula   funding,  formula   factors,  the   retirement  system,                                                               
required local contributions, and the local contribution cap.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:25:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE,  for the record,  acknowledged that  Mr. Bell                                                               
has been "great to work with."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:26:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed the  understanding that if a school                                                               
applies  for the  transportation funding,  this would  be awarded                                                               
per the total  number of students in the  district, regardless of                                                               
the number who would use the transportation system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL   replied  that   is  correct   for  non-correspondence                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed the  understanding for why students                                                               
who  are  learning  at  home  would not  be  considered  in  this                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:27 a.m. to 9:34 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the last  order of  business                                                               
would be the presentation on reports and accountability.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN MCKENZIE,  Director, Division  of Innovation  and Education                                                               
Excellence,   Alaska   Department    of   Education   and   Early                                                               
Development,  co-presented  a  PowerPoint,  titled  "Reports  and                                                               
Accountability"  [hard copy  included in  the committee  packet].                                                               
She introduced  the presentation and pointed  out DEED's mission,                                                               
vision, and  purpose, as seen  on slide 2.   She stated  that the                                                               
presentation  will  focus  on  DEED's  statutory  and  regulatory                                                               
reports  and  accountability.    She moved  to  slide  3,  titled                                                               
"Strategic  Priorities:  Alaska's   Education  Challenge."    She                                                               
pointed to the  five priorities listed on the  slide, adding that                                                               
DEED's work  is centered around  these priorities.  She  moved to                                                               
slide  4 and  stated that  the presentation  will cover  the five                                                               
areas listed on the agenda.   She summarized the divisions listed                                                               
that will be presenting.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:38:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH RIDDLE,  Operations Manager,  Division of  Innovation and                                                               
Education  Excellence (IEE),  Department of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development,  moved to  slide 6,  titled "Division  of Innovation                                                               
and  Education Excellence  (IEE) Data  Collections."   She stated                                                               
that data is  only collected from districts that  are required to                                                               
report, per state  regulation.  She summarized DEED's  use of the                                                               
data,  which  includes  reporting, public  information  requests,                                                               
calculating   school  designations,   and  programming   decision                                                               
making.  She moved to slide  7, which listed the six primary data                                                               
collections  IEE gathers  from the  districts.   She stated  that                                                               
these  are the  data elements  that provide  information for  the                                                               
state and federal reports.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE,  in response  to a  committee question,  replied that                                                               
the Fall OASIS collects the  data under student demographics, per                                                               
the U.S. Department of Education  (DoED).  She explained that the                                                               
students'  demographics, gender,  age,  race  and ethnicity,  and                                                               
more would  be gathered.   In response  to a  follow-up question,                                                               
she  stated that  this would  regard the  free and  reduced lunch                                                               
program and English as a second language program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE,  in response  to a  committee question  regarding the                                                               
Report Card  to the Public,  stated this report card  is required                                                               
by DoED, and it is mandated by  the state as well.  She explained                                                               
this report  provides an overview  of the schools and  a synopsis                                                               
of all  the collected  data.   She provided  some of  the details                                                               
that  would be  included  on the  report.   She  noted that  each                                                               
school would be  given an index score.  She  said that the report                                                               
is posted in January of each year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE,  in response to  a follow-up question  concerning the                                                               
index  score's   equality  and   variability,  stated   that  the                                                               
accountability system is just one part  of the report card, as it                                                               
would also  include data for the  report for the Office  of Civil                                                               
Rights and the report for  Suspensions and Expulsions.  She noted                                                               
that because  of DoED requirements, the  accountability system is                                                               
complicated,   and  she   offered  to   report  back   with  more                                                               
information.  In  continued response, she stated  that the reason                                                               
some of  the systems were  put into  place is to  protect student                                                               
privacy.   She offered that  IEE is  working on revising  some of                                                               
these pieces  in the  accountability system.   She noted  that if                                                               
there is 5 percent of  a certain student demographic, this cannot                                                               
be reported, and this information is suppressed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE, in response to  a committee question, stated that the                                                               
reporting requirements for student  achievement gaps are required                                                               
for  the  lowest  designated schools  that  have  an  improvement                                                               
designation,  as these  are  the schools  that  are targeted  for                                                               
support.  In response to  a follow-up question, she discussed how                                                               
the lowest  designated schools would  be determined,  adding that                                                               
currently some adjustments  had been made to the  formula and the                                                               
growth  indicator,  so determinations  may  be  different in  the                                                               
coming  years.   She stated  that she  would report  back to  the                                                               
committee with the formula.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE, in response to  a committee question, displayed slide                                                               
8, titled "Division of Innovation  and Education Excellence (IEE)                                                               
Required  Reports."     She   explained  that   the  Persistently                                                               
Dangerous report looks at factors of  a school that deem it to be                                                               
dangerous, and  this is a federal  report.  She noted  that there                                                               
are not many of  these schools in the state.   She noted that the                                                               
Annual Report to  the Legislature is IEE's thick  report, and she                                                               
moved to the next slide to discuss this.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE addressed slide 9,  titled "Division of Innovation and                                                               
Education Excellence (IEE) Report  Deadlines and Citations."  She                                                               
pointed out that  the Annual Report to the  Legislature is annual                                                               
report, along with  several others.  She detailed  several of the                                                               
other reports on the list.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE, in  response to  a committee  question, stated  that                                                               
data for  the Suspension  and Expulsions  Report is  collected by                                                               
incidents, so several  people could be involved  in one incident,                                                               
or  one person  could  be  involved in  several  incidents.   She                                                               
acknowledged that reporting in this manner could skew the data.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RIDDLE  moved  from  slide  9 to  slide  11,  which  further                                                               
addressed  IEE report  deadlines and  citations, funding  sources                                                               
reports, and report  distribution.  She concluded  IEE section of                                                               
the presentation on slide 12,  titled "Division of Innovation and                                                               
Education Excellence (IEE) Reports Available Online."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:53:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL,  co-presenting the PowerPoint, began  on slide 14,                                                               
titled  "School  Finance  - School  District  Budget  and  Actual                                                               
Reporting."   He reviewed the  reports listed  on the slide.   In                                                               
response  to  a  committee  question,  he  expressed  uncertainty                                                               
concerning whether districts are  required to make budget reports                                                               
available  to the  public.   He  acknowledged that  many do  make                                                               
these available.  In response  to a follow-up question, he stated                                                               
that these  financial statements  are public information,  and if                                                               
it is requested,  districts would have the  obligation to provide                                                               
these.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL,  in response to  a series of  committee questions,                                                               
explained  that  districts'  reports may  be  presented  slightly                                                               
different than  how the state  reports the  data.  He  added that                                                               
all the data  is there, just presented differently at  times.  He                                                               
gave details on  the function levels.  In  response, he explained                                                               
that the state  reports the budgets by district, and  then by the                                                               
function level.  He continued that  the website does not have the                                                               
capability  to  evaluate one  school  against  another, but  this                                                               
could be  done by  district, as  the funding  is always  given by                                                               
district.  He stated that schools  do not report their budgets to                                                               
the state, but to the districts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:00:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL   moved  to  slide  15,   titled  "School  Finance                                                               
Forecasted Unreserved  Operating Fund Balances."   He stated that                                                               
reports are  generated off  the fund  balances for  districts, so                                                               
there is a fund balance  requirement in statute, which stipulates                                                               
that no more  than 10 percent of expenditures can  be retained by                                                               
a  district  in any  given  fiscal  year.    He noted  that  each                                                               
district's audit  would be reviewed, per  statute; however, House                                                               
Bill   76  [passed   during   the   Thirty-Second  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature] waived  this provision until 2025,  so districts can                                                               
retain  more unreserved  funds in  their operating  budgets.   He                                                               
stated that this legislation also  has required DEED to prepare a                                                               
report  forecasting  what  districts   have  as  an  ending  fund                                                               
balance.   In response  to a committee  question, he  stated that                                                               
this year's report has already been sent to the legislature.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL  proceeded to  slide  17,  titled "School  Finance                                                               
Forecasted  Unreserved Operating  Fund Balances,"  which detailed                                                               
how the report, per House Bill  76, would be compiled.  He stated                                                               
that  using   this  report,  the  legislature   can  monitor  the                                                               
unreserved  fund  balance while  the  10  percent requirement  is                                                               
being waived.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:03:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  commented that while  performing school                                                               
reviews, she  has noticed that  some school districts  retain the                                                               
full 10  percent in  reserves because of  the instability  in the                                                               
funding cycle.   She opined that  the ability to hold  money back                                                               
would  be  valuable to  stabilize  a  district's overall  budget;                                                               
however, the money should be going  into the classroom, but it is                                                               
often held back.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE  commented  that last  year  the  legislature                                                               
aided in this with forward  funding.  He questioned whether there                                                               
would  be a  way to  allow districts  to hold  a year's  worth of                                                               
budget in reserve.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL replied  that  forward funding  would  not be  the                                                               
mechanism  for this.    He stated  that  forward funding  usually                                                               
happens when funds are appropriated a year in advance.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:05:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL  moved to slide  18 and  slide 19 and  reviewed the                                                               
Per Pupil Expenditure  Report by School.  He stated  that this is                                                               
a relatively  new report  required by  the federal  Every Student                                                               
Succeeds Act  (ESSA).  He  stated that  this report looks  at the                                                               
per-pupil  expenditures  of  federal,  state,  and  local  funds,                                                               
including actual personnel  expenditures and actual non-personnel                                                               
expenditures.   He explained  that this  is disaggregated  by the                                                               
source of  funds for  each local education  agency and  school in                                                               
the state  for the  preceding fiscal year.   The  districts would                                                               
report the information to DEED, and DEED posts the data.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL responded to a  question on the report on per-pupil                                                               
expenditures.   He expressed uncertainty concerning  the report's                                                               
intent.  He  pointed out that this is a  mandate from the federal                                                               
government,   and   he   expressed   confusion   concerning   its                                                               
usefulness.  He  suggested that there is  no relationship between                                                               
per pupil expenditures and student achievement, or growth rate.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL  responded to  a  series  of committee  questions.                                                               
Concerning  the  definition  of  "disaggregated  by  source,"  he                                                               
stated  that   this  means  DEED   is  making   some  assumptions                                                               
concerning what dollars are going  where, as all the funding from                                                               
different sources are  deposited into the same  account, and then                                                               
disaggregated by  purpose.   He stated that  if federal  money is                                                               
received through a  title program, this program  will dictate how                                                               
the money is spent; however,  discretionary grants can be used as                                                               
needed.   In regard  to targeted  funds, he  stated that  all the                                                               
students  in the  district would  be considered,  allocating this                                                               
fund across all, so specifics are not known.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:13:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  the understanding  that ESSA  is                                                               
targeting   down  on   these  dollars   because  it   wants  more                                                               
accountability with  school board members.   Regarding the levels                                                               
of  experience  within  different   teaching  positions  held  in                                                               
schools across  the state, she  discussed how the  school funding                                                               
amounts differ.   She  suggested that ESSA  is attempting  to get                                                               
school board members to consider this.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:14:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL  moved to slide  19 and  slide 20, which  were both                                                               
titled "School  Finance Per Pupil Expenditure  Report by School."                                                               
He  stated  that   this  lays  out  the   location  of  reporting                                                               
requirements.   In response  to a  committee question,  he stated                                                               
that "LEA" stands  for local education agency,  "ESSA" stands for                                                               
Every Student Succeeds Act, and  "ESEA" stands for Elementary and                                                               
Secondary  Education Act.    He  stated ESSA  and  ESEA are  both                                                               
federal.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL  expressed uncertainty  on  the  question of  what                                                               
would happen if  the federal report on  per-pupil expenditure was                                                               
not  submitted to  the federal  government.   He  stated that  he                                                               
would report this  answer back to the committee.   In response to                                                               
a follow-up question,  he expressed uncertainty on  the number of                                                               
positions  in  Alaska's  education   system  that  are  federally                                                               
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LORI WEED, Finance Specialist, Division  of Financial and Support                                                               
Services, Department of Education  and Early Development, resumed                                                               
the presentation  on slide 22,  titled "School  Facilities School                                                               
Capital  Funding   Report,"  which  read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Statutory Reporting Requirement: AS 14.11.035                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • School Capital Project Funding  Under SB 237 (Chapter                                                                    
     93, SLA 2010)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Provided  to Legislature  annually by February  28 An                                                                    
     Excellent Education for Every Student Every Day                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Used to review impacts of funding on schools                                                                             
          • Operating budget: fund capitalization of                                                                            
          Regional  educational  attendance  area and  small                                                                    
          municipal school    district school fund                                                                              
          •   Capital  budget:   appropriations  to   School                                                                    
          Construction   Grant  Fund  and Major  Maintenance                                                                    
          Grant Funds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     •  Program funding  available to  all school  districts                                                                    
     via   capital  improvement   project  application   and                                                                    
     ranking process                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Priority lists and publications/reports:                                                                                 
          • education.alaska.gov/facilities                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED,  in response to  a committee question, stated  that the                                                               
available funding through the  capital improvement projects (CIP)                                                               
list  would vary  every year,  and this  is based  on legislative                                                               
appropriation.    Concerning  which   programs  are  funded,  she                                                               
replied that  DEED funds  down the  list, and if  there is  a set                                                               
amount  of  appropriations  and  not  sufficient  funding  for  a                                                               
particular  project,  it would  go  down  the  list to  the  next                                                               
project.   She  stated  that  when an  entire  school  has to  be                                                               
replaced, it would be on this list.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED,  in response to  a committee question, stated  that she                                                               
does  not  have  exact  numbers  for  school  maintenance.    She                                                               
expressed the understanding that it  is around $200 million.  She                                                               
commented that funding has varied  widely over the last ten years                                                               
for  the school  maintenance list  and school  construction list.                                                               
In response  to a committee  question, she stated that  she would                                                               
report back  to the committee with  the number of schools  in the                                                               
state that are  at full capacity.  She responded  that the square                                                               
footage of school buildings and  their capacity vary widely.  She                                                               
deferred the question.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LACY SANDERS,  Deputy Commissioner,  Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Education and Early  Development, stated that every                                                               
school  district has  a variation  in  size and  capacity of  its                                                               
facilities.  In regard to  reporting this information back to the                                                               
committee,  she noted  that the  buildings are  not owned  by the                                                               
state,  but they  are owned  by local  school districts,  and any                                                               
facility that is closed or disposed  of would be up to the school                                                               
district.   She  stated  that  any information  on  this will  be                                                               
pulled  together for  the committee.   In  follow up,  she stated                                                               
that the districts could also be  asked for the information.  She                                                               
added  that DEED  is limited  on the  information it  can request                                                               
from districts, and  it may have to  request additional authority                                                               
to  obtain  this information.    She  reiterated that  she  would                                                               
follow up with whatever statutory  authority DEED has in relation                                                               
to this information.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED,  in  response  to  a  question  on  school  bond  debt                                                               
reimbursement,  stated that  the division  manages the  financial                                                               
side of this.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACKWELL  responded  that   the  only  requirement  of  the                                                               
municipality would be to notify  DEED of the anticipated debt for                                                               
budgeting purposes.  He added  that the finance division would do                                                               
the reimbursement  side, while the  facilities division  would do                                                               
the project  side.   He expressed uncertainty  on how  this would                                                               
show up  in the budgets.   He deferred  the question on  how bond                                                               
debt reimbursement would show up in the budgets.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDERS   responded  that  each   year  the  value   on  the                                                               
appropriation is based off what  is due for a bond reimbursement.                                                               
She  stated that  this number  is  a formula  number prepared  by                                                               
DEED, and  this goes to  the governor's  office.  This  amount is                                                               
included in  the appropriation  bill.  She  stated that  once the                                                               
legislature  determines this  amount, it  would be  given to  the                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:30:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY clarified  that some  school buildings  are                                                               
owned by the cities, and not the districts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed  the opinion that it  would be easy                                                               
for  these facilities  to  be  mismanaged.   He  opined on  this,                                                               
suggesting that districts are shifting costs to the state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:31:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOE   WILLHOITE,  Manager,   School  Facilities,   Department  of                                                               
Education  and Early  Development, answered  that systems  are in                                                               
place that would respond to  preventative maintenance.  He stated                                                               
that to  participate in the CIP  process, a district must  have a                                                               
robust  preventative  program.     He  explained  the  monitoring                                                               
process of the preventative maintenance  program.  In response to                                                               
the  suggestion that  school districts  are shifting  maintenance                                                               
costs to the  state, he reiterated that it is  a requirement that                                                               
districts maintain preventative maintenance.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  suggested  that  this  requirement  is  not                                                               
working as  well as it should,  as there are a  number of capital                                                               
requests  coming  from  municipalities   for  repairs  to  school                                                               
buildings.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLHOITE responded  that all parts of  a building, depending                                                               
on  the  value of  the  original  facility, are  perishable,  and                                                               
eventually they  will need major  maintenance.  He stated  that a                                                               
roof can only  be patched a number of times  before it would need                                                               
replacing.  He  added that not all CIP projects  would get funded                                                               
soon enough to  prevent "them from starting to leak."   He stated                                                               
that  funding can  be requested,  but until  a project  becomes a                                                               
real problem, it does not get the funding.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDERS,  in response  to a  committee question,  stated that                                                               
major  maintenance  funding comes  from  a  grant program.    She                                                               
stated that the  legislature would appropriate money  into a fund                                                               
for  specific projects  that are  on the  list, so  the money  is                                                               
obligated.   She stated that it  is not often there  is a balance                                                               
in the  fund.  In  response to  a follow-up question,  she stated                                                               
that the funding is on an annual basis.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD expressed  concerns  on  accountability for  the                                                               
deferred maintenance  funding.  She  suggested there be  an audit                                                               
on  this   process.     She  questioned   whether  there   is  an                                                               
investigation of  the needed deferred maintenance  in each school                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLHOITE  replied  that  a  system  exists  which  requires                                                               
districts to  provide a preventative maintenance  schedule, along                                                               
with  the  history  of what  has  been  done.    If this  is  not                                                               
provided, or  preventative maintenance  is failing, he  said that                                                               
the district would  be put on a provisional list.   He added that                                                               
being  on this  list could  disqualify  a district  from the  CIP                                                               
process, and  why a  district is  on the  list must  be addressed                                                               
before  it can  apply for  a  CIP.   In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question, he  stated that  districts are  put on  the provisional                                                               
list "more frequently than I'd like."   He stated that this would                                                               
be funded  through a  district's general  fund, and  he expressed                                                               
the opinion that  this is unfortunate.  He pointed  out that some                                                               
districts put more emphasis on  deferred maintenance than others.                                                               
In  response  to  a  request  for  a  historical  record  of  the                                                               
provisional lists,  he stated that  he would report this  back to                                                               
the committee.  He deferred to Ms. Weed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEED responded that DEED  currently has nine districts on the                                                               
provisional  list  and five  districts  that  have not  certified                                                               
their programs.  She stated that  the five districts cannot be on                                                               
the CIP list until their programs are certified.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEED,  in response  to  a  committee question,  stated  that                                                               
districts  would  use  their   foundation  formulas  for  funding                                                               
facility  maintenance.    In  response   to  whether  this  would                                                               
jeopardize  the BSA,  she replied  that  it has  been noted  that                                                               
maintenance  funding "takes  hits"  because it  is believed  that                                                               
this funding should be kept in the classroom.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:42:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
AMY  PHILLIPS-CHAN,  PhD,   Director,  Libraries,  Archives,  and                                                               
Museums  (LAM), Department  of Education  and Early  Development,                                                               
joined  the  presentation  on  slide   25,  titled  "Division  of                                                               
Libraries,  Archives,  and  Museums   (LAM)  -  School  Broadband                                                               
Assistance Grant  (BAG)."   She stated that  the BAG  program was                                                               
created to increase download speeds  for the internet in schools.                                                               
She stated that BAG was  established in 2014, originally allowing                                                               
schools to reach download speeds of  10 Mbps.  She stated that in                                                               
2020, the legislature  revised the statute to  help schools reach                                                               
download  speeds of  25  Mbps.   She  stated that  in  FY 23  BAG                                                               
awarded $6.1  million to 151 schools  in Alaska.  She  moved back                                                               
to  slide  24,  titled  "Division  of  Libraries,  Archives,  and                                                               
Museums  (LAM) School  Broadband Assistance  Grant (BAG)  Program                                                               
Annual  Timeline"   and  went   through  BAG's   application  and                                                               
reporting process.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:47:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  expressed  the opinion  that  this  program                                                               
should be managed  by the individual districts and  included as a                                                               
school  operating  expense,  as   opposed  to  a  separate  grant                                                               
program.   He argued that  the management of this  program should                                                               
be reconsidered.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:48:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANDREA NOBLE, Executive  Director of Alaska State  Council on the                                                               
Arts,  (ASCA),  joined  the  presentation  on  slide  27,  titled                                                               
"Alaska State Council  on the Arts (ASCA)."  She  stated that the                                                               
slide shows  only the  grant programs  in school  districts where                                                               
ASCA reports  are required  by regulation.   She stated  that the                                                               
content and  format of the  reports are aligned with  the federal                                                               
requirements for funds from the  National Endowment for the Arts.                                                               
She noted that the reporting process  is similar to that of LAM's                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:50:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed the opinion that  this should also                                                               
be managed by districts in their regular school budget process.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:50:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE extended gratitude for DEED and offered                                                                      
closing comments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:51:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:51 a.m.                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DEED Presentation Reports and Accountability 3.10.2023.pdf HEDC 3/10/2023 8:00:00 AM
H Ed Foundation Presentation 3-10-23.pdf HEDC 3/10/2023 8:00:00 AM