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02/05/2026 05:15 PM House LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT

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05:17:32 PM Start
05:18:48 PM Approval of Agenda
05:19:09 PM Approval of Minutes
05:19:26 PM Top Audit Issues
05:23:10 PM Consideration of Contract Amendment: Alaska Center for Energy and Power (acep)
05:27:27 PM Executive Session
06:16:05 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ I. Approval of the Agenda TELECONFERENCED
+ II. Approval of the Minutes TELECONFERENCED
a. November 19, 2025 – morning meeting
b. November 19, 2025 – afternoon meeting
c. January 20, 2026
+ III. Committee Business TELECONFERENCED
a. Top Audit Issues, Part 2
b. Consideration of Contract Amendment for
Alaska Center for Energy and Power
IV. Executive Session
a. Consideration of Contract Amendment for
Outside Counsel for Personnel Matter
b. Gaffney Cline, Conflict of Interest: Legal
Analysis
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        February 5, 2026                                                                                        
                           5:17 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Senator Scott Kawasaki (alternate)                                                                                              
Representative Bryce Edgmon (alternate)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                              
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
TOP AUDIT ISSUES                                                                                                                
CONSIDERATION OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT:  ALASKA CENTER FOR ENERGY                                                                  
AND POWER (ACEP)                                                                                                                
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor                                                                                                
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Legislative Agencies and Offices                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented the corrective actions  for FY 25                                                             
top audit issues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JEFF STEPP, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Gave background  information on  the Alaska                                                             
Center for Energy and Power contract amendment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:17:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  called  the  Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                               
Committee meeting to order at  5:17 p.m.  Representatives Foster,                                                               
Josephson,  Kopp, Coulombe,  Edgmon (alternate),  and Fields  and                                                               
Senators Wielechowski,  Giessel, Kawasaki, and  Gray-Jackson were                                                               
present at the call to order.  Also present was Senator Kaufman.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                             
                       APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
5:18:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would be approval of the agenda.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit Committee  approve the agenda.   There being  no objection,                                                               
the agenda was approved as presented.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                            
                      APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
5:19:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be approval of the minutes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit  Committee  approve the  minutes  of  the two  meetings  on                                                               
November 19,  2025, and the meeting  on January 20, 2026.   There                                                               
being no objection, the minutes were approved.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^TOP AUDIT ISSUES                                                                                                               
                        TOP AUDIT ISSUES                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
5:19:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would  be a  summary  of the  corrective  actions addressing  the                                                               
Division of Legislative Audit's top  audit issues for fiscal year                                                               
2025 (FY 25)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:19:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  CURTIS, Legislative  Auditor,  Legislative Audit  Division,                                                               
Legislative  Agencies and  Offices, referred  to a  document that                                                               
displayed a  matrix titled, "FY 25  Top Audit Issues -  Status of                                                               
Corrective  Action"  [included  in  the  committee  file].    She                                                               
recalled that during  a prior committee meeting  she was directed                                                               
to  request the  status of  corrective actions  from the  various                                                               
state  departments  for  the  12  top  audit  issues,  which  are                                                               
summarized in the aforementioned document.   The plan today is to                                                               
determine  whether  the findings  should  be  forwarded to  other                                                               
legislative committees  for follow up,  as addressed in  the last                                                               
column  of  the matrix,  "Next  Action."    The issues  ripe  for                                                               
further legislative  consideration are audit issue  6, concerning                                                               
the Department  of Military  & Veterans'  Affairs (DMVA)  and the                                                               
Department of  Health (DOH) not  working together to  bill $279.8                                                               
million  of  federal  disaster grant  expenditures  in  a  timely                                                               
manner, which  resulted in lost investment  earnings; audit issue                                                               
7, related  to the Department  of Corrections  (DOC) overspending                                                               
their FY 24 budget; audit  issue 8, related to unaddressed budget                                                               
shortfalls  in  three  departments;  audit issue  9,  the  Alaska                                                               
International  Airport's   (AIA)  struggle  to   produce  audited                                                               
financial  statements  for  inclusion in  the  state's  financial                                                               
statements;  audit issue  10, concerning  the Division  of Public                                                               
Assistance's  (DPA) material  internal  control deficiencies  and                                                               
material noncompliance  with several federal programs;  and audit                                                               
issue 12,  a special audit  of the Office of  Children's Services                                                               
(OCS) noncompliance with foster care  reform.  She said she would                                                               
continue to  work with the  chair on formally referring  these to                                                               
the legislative committees identified in the matrix.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:22:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP  asked whether  the  money  for the  Federal                                                               
Emergency  Management  Agency  (FEMA) disaster  grant  associated                                                               
with audit issue 6 was eventually recovered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS stated  that  it's part  of an  ongoing  audit.   She                                                               
shared her  understanding that the department  has finally billed                                                               
for  the revenues;  nonetheless,  it  would be  a  great item  to                                                               
follow up on  in the budget committees to figure  out the timing.                                                               
She  reported  that  as  noted  in  the  finding,  there  was  an                                                               
estimated $1.3 million of lost investment earnings per month.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP asked how many months have lapsed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS responded  that the finding corresponds to  the end of                                                               
FY 24  and now it is  the middle of  FY 26.  She  reiterated that                                                               
determining when the department billed  for the revenues would be                                                               
a good follow up.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^CONSIDERATION OF  CONTRACT AMENDMENT:  ALASKA  CENTER FOR ENERGY                                                               
AND POWER (ACEP)                                                                                                                
 CONSIDERATION OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT:  ALASKA CENTER FOR ENERGY                                                             
                        AND POWER (ACEP)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
5:23:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be a  consideration of a contract amendment  for the Alaska                                                               
Center for Energy and Power (ACEP).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit Committee authorize the legislature  to add $100,000 to the                                                               
existing ACEP  reimbursable service agreement (RSA),  for a total                                                               
"not to exceed" amount of  $150,000; and to extend the completion                                                               
date of the RSA from June 30, 2026, to June 30, 2027.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY-JACKSON objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:24:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  STEPP,  Staff,  Senator  Elvi  Gray-Jackson,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, offered  the following remarks on  the ACEP contract                                                               
amendment [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     For  background,  the   Committee  first  authorized  a                                                                    
     reimbursable service  agreement with the  Alaska Center                                                                    
     for  Energy and  Power, or  ACEP, at  its February  26,                                                                    
     2025, meeting, for an amount  not to exceed $50,000, to                                                                    
     provide independent, expert  analysis on energy-related                                                                    
     topics to support legislative decision-making.                                                                             
     At  the  June 30  meeting,  the  Chair noted  that  the                                                                    
     contract period  would be  extended into  the following                                                                    
     fiscal year,  with no increase to  the original not-to-                                                                    
     exceed amount,  and if any additional  funding would be                                                                    
     needed in the  future, a request would  be brought back                                                                    
     to the  Committee for  approval during  the forthcoming                                                                    
     session.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  current request,  reflected  in  the joint  letter                                                                    
     from   Representative  Fields   and  Senator   Giessel,                                                                    
     explains that  ACEP completed multiple  technical tasks                                                                    
     in  2025, including  original research,  policy briefs,                                                                    
     and testimony on issues such  as LNG import facilities,                                                                    
     Railbelt  transmission   regulation,  battery  storage,                                                                    
     load  growth projections  for the  Railbelt, and  clean                                                                    
     energy  project licensing  and permitting    and  more.                                                                    
     Legislators  anticipate  continued    or  increased  --                                                                    
     demand for  that support  this session,  throughout the                                                                    
     interim and into 2027.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Just  as  a  reminder, ACEP  provided  a  comprehensive                                                                    
     report summarizing  the work they have  completed under                                                                    
     this contract.  We shared  a link  to that  report with                                                                    
     members by  email on January  21, and it's  also posted                                                                    
     on  the LB&A  Committee website  for easy  reference by                                                                    
     legislators and the public.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  common  practice  to carry  an  LB&A  Committee                                                                    
     contract   through  the   end  of   the  fiscal   year,                                                                    
     overlapping with a new  legislature, so consultants are                                                                    
     ready to go when session starts, without any delay.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Accordingly,  this request  is to  add $100,000  to the                                                                    
     existing agreement    for a total  not-to-exceed amount                                                                    
     of $150,000    and  extending the completion  date from                                                                    
     the end  of the current  fiscal year to June  30, 2027,                                                                    
     to   allow  ACEP   to   continue  providing   analysis,                                                                    
     briefings,  and expert  testimony as  requested by  the                                                                    
     Legislature.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:26:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL   said  she   strongly  supports   the  contract                                                               
extension  and  the  funding  for  it.   She  stated  that  she's                                                               
beginning her  tenth year chairing the  Senate Resources Standing                                                               
Committee  and ACEP  has been  indispensable in  providing expert                                                               
testimony and analysis.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY-JACKSON removed her objection.  There being no                                                                       
further objection, the contract amendment was approved.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                              
                       EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
5:27:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be executive session.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit  Committee go  into executive  session  under Uniform  Rule                                                               
22(b)(1),  discussion  of  matters, the  immediate  knowledge  of                                                               
which would adversely  affect the finances of  a government unit;                                                               
and Uniform  Rule 22(b)(3), discussion  of a matter that  may, by                                                               
law,  be  required  to  be  confidential.    He  asked  that  the                                                               
following persons  remain in  the room or  online:   Kris Curtis,                                                               
Legislative Auditor, and necessary  staff; Emily Nauman and Megan                                                               
Wallace,  Legislative Legal  Services;  Karin  Jones, Partner  at                                                               
Stoel  Rives; Matt  Armstrong,  Baker  Hughes; Zachary  Lawhorne,                                                               
Legislative Information Office moderator;  any legislators not on                                                               
the committee; and staff of  legislators on the committee.  There                                                               
being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:28:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took an at-ease  from 5:28  p.m. to 6:09  p.m. for                                                               
the purpose of executive session.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:09:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  called  the  Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                               
Committee meeting  back to  order at  6:09 p.m.   Representatives                                                               
Kopp,  Coulombe,  Edgmon  (alternate), and  Fields  and  Senators                                                               
Wielechowski,  Giessel, Kawasaki,  and Gray-Jackson  were present                                                               
at the call to order.  Also present was Senator Kaufman.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:10:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  announced  that  during  executive  session,                                                               
topics  listed on  the agenda  were discussed  and the  committee                                                               
would  be taking  action  related to  each of  them.   The  first                                                               
concerns the contract amendment for  outside counsel related to a                                                               
personnel matter.  She noted  that due to the confidential nature                                                               
of  personnel  matters,  the committee  would  not  be  providing                                                               
public comment on the specifics at this time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:10:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit  Committee   approve  an  amendment  to   the  Division  of                                                               
Legislative  Audit's  existing  contract with  Stoel  Rives  LLP,                                                               
dated  October  10, 2025,  to  increase  the contract  amount  by                                                               
$100,000  for a  total amount  not to  exceed $295,000  for legal                                                               
services  relating  to  a  personnel  matter.    There  being  no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:11:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit  Committee authorize  the chair  to amend  the "Exclusivity                                                               
and Non-Conflict  of Interest Clause," and  any necessary related                                                               
provisions,   of   the    Committee's   current   contract   with                                                               
GaffneyCline.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  objected  for   purposes  of  discussion  to                                                               
explain the intent behind the  motion.  She offered the following                                                               
remarks [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I  take   questions  about  the  independence   of  the                                                                    
     Legislature's  consultants  very  seriously.  For  that                                                                    
     reason,  we  asked  Legislative Legal  Services  for  a                                                                    
     formal  review,  which  is included  in  the  committee                                                                    
     packet  and  posted  to BASIS;  One  of  GaffneyCline's                                                                    
     consultants,  Mr.  Fulford,  addressed this  matter  in                                                                    
     testimony before  both the  House and  Senate Resources                                                                    
     Committees;   and  we   received  a   detailed  written                                                                    
     explanation from  GaffneyCline and its  parent company,                                                                    
     Baker  Hughes, outlining  the contractual  obligations,                                                                    
     confidentiality  requirements,  and internal  firewalls                                                                    
     they  use   to  ensure  their  advisory   work  remains                                                                    
     independent   and   insulated   from   any   commercial                                                                    
     activities    this  letter was  distributed to  members                                                                    
     and placed on BASIS for the public.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     After  reviewing   all  that  information   and  absent                                                                    
     evidence   of  any   actual   conflict  affecting   the                                                                    
     Committee's   work,   I   am   comfortable   that   the                                                                    
     consultants'    analysis    remains    objective    and                                                                    
     professionally independent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     At the same time, I  think it is reasonable and prudent                                                                    
     for us to clarify our  contract language so there is no                                                                    
     ambiguity going  forward. The  motion before  us simply                                                                    
     authorizes  the chair  to  amend  the "Exclusivity  and                                                                    
     Non-Conflict of Interest Clause"  to better reflect the                                                                    
     current circumstances and  to protect the Legislature's                                                                    
     interests.  To me,  that  is  a practical  housekeeping                                                                    
     step    not a  finding of wrongdoing    and  a sensible                                                                    
     way   to  acknowledge   the  concern,   strengthen  our                                                                    
     safeguards, and move forward.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Finally, I  want to be  clear about  roles. Consultants                                                                    
     provide  advice;  they  do   not  make  decisions.  The                                                                    
     Legislature  retains full  authority  to evaluate  that                                                                    
     advice  and  determine what  actions  are  in the  best                                                                    
     interests  of  Alaskans.  With  that  understanding,  I                                                                    
     support  this motion  as a  reasonable resolution,  and                                                                    
     I'm happy to hear any comments from members.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he  appreciates the  public discussion                                                               
on this  matter.  From  personal experience, he pointed  out that                                                               
GaffneyCline has  been an advisor to  the state for 20  years and                                                               
has always  provided valuable, objective advice.   In particular,                                                               
he   recalled  GaffneyCline's   contribution  to   the  oil   tax                                                               
discussions  in  2007,  during  which  time  their  clients  were                                                               
producers and GaffneyCline still issued  advice to the state that                                                               
came  at a  cost  to  these clients.    They  were objective  and                                                               
provided the answers  to the questions that were  asked, he said.                                                               
He reminded  the committee that  their owner is Baker  Hughes who                                                               
has  an interest  in  the project;  nonetheless,  he opined  that                                                               
GaffneyCline's advice would be useful.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  FIELDS stated that  the Legislative Budget  and Audit                                                               
Committee has  approved consultant  contracts for  Pegasus Global                                                               
Holdings,  Inc.  and  ACEP  as  well, so  its  valuable  to  have                                                               
multiple  perspectives and  analyze  them on  their  merits.   He                                                               
agreed with Senator Wielechowski,  and reiterated his belief that                                                               
multiple  well-informed perspectives  will be  important for  the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  withdrew  her  objection.   There  being  no                                                               
further objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:16:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the                                                                       
Legislative Budget and Audit Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                 
6:16 p.m.